Kimberly Foster Reveals Why Elite Women CAN'T Handle Blue Collar Men!

[@bhillboy37]

No man "resents" you for your success. But what men are not about to do is let you talk to us like a step-son because you make a little money.

[@DragonCrane04]

This is exactly the question i have been asking. You want to say that men resent you only because you make more them, is it because the men are jealous of you or because you have belittled and disrespected them becauae you feel like you have power in the relationship because of the wealth you have accrued? The women probably can't honestly answer that question because it would take accountability and the ability to be self-aware to know the difference...🤷🏿‍♂️

[@matthewgaines10]

Men do resent women with an oversized ego. They are too stubborn to work with.

[@dejbaby1419]

HELLO!!!

[@mcole442]

Bingo 👈. Remember "I'm a Ph.D"???👈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 These women have let a degree, and a phunky job working for Zaddy come between them and HAPPINESS 👈 They're materialistic, miserable, and they're dying ALONE, in a house full of pets 🐱🐶 and houseplants 🌻 👈. I'm not gonna be led around in front of Zaddy like somebody's mascot👈 If Zaddy truly respects you, he'll respect anybody who's with you, regardless of his wealth or status.

[@SonicBoomC98]

That's what they don't get

[@enjoyingthedecline4319]

Even educated men don't want to do 90% of the things Kim Foster speaks about. Most guys want to hang out and go to a game.

[@whatsakingtoagod5583]

Right. Hell, I know white-collar dudes and most of the time they just wanna hang out, have some beers and be one of the guys!!!

[@Alvan81]

100% Most men of any do not enjoy the social butterfly game. Any class.

[@mikelarry2602]

@@Alvan81 These women is racist, they dislike you based on the color of your job.

[@itsgreat7150]

Come on guys, you're messing up this delusional world these BW are living in.

[@lijuaivelina8584]

Blk women who go to college care about white validation social that's it.. they want to be white lowkey but still complain about racism but wanna be in same environment

[@inoc805]

I just looked her up. I spent years working as a mechanic. During that time I built and flew drones as a hobby. I spent a lot of time and invested a lot of money into that industry. The woman I was with back then belittled me and left me because she was a Black woman that wanted more. Whole time, she was a medical assistant. I stayed on my purpose and now my Filipina wife and I own and operate a company that flies drones for the movie industry. My ex was medical assistant back then and still does that same job today. I cannot stand women who act that way.

[@ChezCharde]

Good for you and your wife congrats!

[@busyrand]

Dope testimonial...

[@gusgrimm7533]

Funny. I'm in class rt now b4 my final turbine test this afternoon. Then I graduate, take finals, get my A&P then re-certify for my Part 107. Congrats, Bro.

[@inoc805]

@@gusgrimm7533 thanks Bro. Stay on your purpose and good luck on the 107 recert. Its not difficult at all.

[@inoc805]

@@ChezCharde thank you! We appreciate it!

[@ehausley5555]

News flash: If you're a man with a college degree and doing better than her, meaning she won't be able to have the upper hand in the relationship, then you'll still get filtered out. 😂

[@bhillboy37]

I see it all the time. Wmn want an educated upwardly mobile, 6'4 gentleman such as my self, until we enter the room. Now the cat has you're tongue. You can't out class me. I've done what you've done. You can't out talk me. I'm worldly with vast knowledge. Only thing you can do is act like I'm not enough because I'm single.

[@itsgreat7150]

And guess what, black women are still at the bottom of the dating list. But these so-called educated BW never bring up that point.🤫🤫🤫

[@Ismail-cf6xu]

Exactly. I’ve literally had these type of BW sour when we meet up she starts her “assessment” to validate what she believes is a power dynamic where she has an upper hand only to discover there won’t be one. It’s then becomes You’re too proper for me, I’m looking for someone with a little edge or a ghosting. If I meet another advance degree holding BW who speaks of a “sophisti-rachet” mindset (think Angela Rye) it’s all rooted in ego fellas.

[@natepolitics1490]

Facts

[@jongoldsby]

This is very true

[@Ismail-cf6xu]

As someone with a Master level education (technically White collar) I know and am fiends with a lot of Blue collar BM who make equal to way more than me. This is beyond an ethnicity issue. this is class aspiration. BW are telling BM and signaling non BM that they desire to elevate to a class status on par or higher than other non BW. Simple as that. Ain’t I woman? To my Blue collar BM, stay away from the majority of advance degree holding BW. Not for what they’ve accomplished (let’s celebrate that as Blk people) but how they view themselves and most importantly you as a result.

[@c____89]

Exactly

[@ShermSuite]

I’m in real estate, you know how many times I’ll get white couples, the wife is doctor or has some big corporate job. The husband is an electrician or salesman, nothing glamorous. I feel like a lot of BW want to be WW so badly even though they have no idea how WW(white people in general) live outside what they see on TV.

[@matthewgaines10]

I would advise blue collar men to exploit the egos of these women to for their benefit but don’t get too involved with them.

[@Ismail-cf6xu]

@@matthewgaines10 I mean to each his own but I’m not a fan of exploiting anyone. Just find your tribe and ignore the others.

[@rumpelstiltskin4850]

But the REALITY is that the vast and overwhelming majority of women especially bIack women have "accomplished" absolutely *NOTHING!* Most women with some little "college degree" ... including a Master's actually earn less ...MUCH less than what a man earns on a good on-the-job-training entry level job in the oil and gas sector; construction and numerous other masculine trades! And I mean more than 2 to 3 times what these women actually earn!

[@CornellG]

Then they wonder why educated men like myself are arrogant and very picky. They want a very rare man then act surprised when he moves like he is rare.

[@matthewgaines10]

Women drive the market that they claim they hate. Keep doing you.

[@Princetonian4eva]

So you’re just as guilty with your thinking as they are? What point have you proven here?

[@CornellG]

The point is, women only wanting a certain caliber of man only drives up the cost of that man. It's simple economics of demand.@@Princetonian4eva

[@problactive285]

I will say this....I'm a contractor in California I make good money and my work ethic is blue collar. My wife is a Doctor....when the hospital she has residency at has social functions I generally fit in better than she does cause I'm into technology and the stock market. I have plenty of conversations with surgeons and other corporate medical professionals and THEY have blue collar work ethics as well...I get lots of respect from men these women put on lofty pedestals....these women are so blinded by the class spectacle they don't realize men of real wealth respect Blue collar work ethics because that what it took for them to have success in a white collar society.

[@Mrk3lly]

Exactly my lady works in finance and I do better at her work functions then she does.

[@Alpha_apex]

You're exactly right. Women dont realize that class is really a smoke screen to MOST people unless we are talking about the .001 percent. Some of those surgeons you talk to probably love changing their oil and spark plugs on the weekend 😂.

[@TrainwreckAt]

Finance and medical (doctors) are blue collar workers. Hospital/Coporate admin or HR and etc are white collar. Medical is simply highly skilled blue collar work.

[@Alvan81]

Raw intelligence is not defined by education level. That's where a lot of them go wrong, due to ego/arrogance.

[@nonyabiz12]

Exactly.

[@afronational2340]

"What books do you read?". As an educated/white collar guy I know more blue collar men that read more and can speak to worldly issues more than your typical white collar black woman. Also, these same women (my colleagues) will never admit their position is artificially made so by white power structures (neoliberal affirmative action) and contingent on them being docile in these white collar environments. And frankly, my blue collar associates and friends make just as much money with little to no debt. It all comes down to their perceived status that doesn't actually exist

[@odog76543]

These chicks are reading Ghetto romance novels and 50 Shades of Grey trying to flex that they read books. My ex-wife, who has an associate degree and stopped a few credits short of getting her bachelors, used to read countless books like "Confessions of a Side-b1tch" every week. Meanwhile me, who read lots of books to earn my Bachelors degree, continue to read books about Computer Graphics, Graphic Design, Sun Zu Art or War, Book of Obsidian, and others.

[@afronational2340]

@@odog76543 bro, what you've described is more common than most people think. It's actually the norm. They memorize school book material but lack critical thinking skills.

[@c____89]

@@odog76543 It’s also that all women want to be side bytches and strippers. Some may hide it, others are more vocal about it.

[@bluejay9968]

They ain't reading no books after college lol!

[@slickrick8046]

@@odog76543 Exactly…!!! In general women read a bunch of friction and watch a lot of media which are not intellectual pursuits. They have the same intellectual activity level as a woman with just a high school diploma. Men tend to read non-fiction and watch less media. If a man has the same reading selection as a woman…he’s probably a punk.

[@modernlegacy5555]

These women are not looking for a mate. They are looking for a lifestyle sponsor.

[@dillon2829]

🎯, most of them are lesbians and don’t even like men, you can have her and her bff for a plane ticket.

[@mcole442]

Bingo 👈

[@robertdudley1258]

@@dillon2829 It's worse than that, 50% of BW ( 11 million ) were diagnosed with genital herpes by the CDC in 2010 and they use anti man and class talking points to conceal the real reason they are single. Half of BW can't be in a serious relationship because it's hard to find a man who is willing to be with a woman with genital herpes which is not curable. That's also the reason they use the income of the man as an excuse or a weapon to help conceal the truth. The average BW earns 38k a year and a smaller educated % have good jobs but they both use the same talking points and the reason is that both are liars who manipulate men because they are really out of the dating and sex game because of genital herpes. They weaponize non- BM who have no interest in them statistically, they go on girl trips, they take lots of selfies by themselves, they bash BM as a collective, they live their lives through celebrities and who they date and last but not least they love WM who love WW but hate WW. They do this to conceal the lie they live because they have no BM who will except their affliction, so they self- medicate by lashing out, loving through fantasy, attacking and making everything about things with no feelings, money and status. Ironically, they use the two things they have the least of as their crutch and that is why when talking about the subject of money, status and their own earnings they over exaggerate to compensate. SYSBM

[@nonyabiz12]

Exactly.

[@db6881]

How are they looking for a lifestyle sponsor when they want men on their financial level? 😂😂😂😂

[@magicworld3242]

I use to be a police officer before I retired. My brother and father were both firefighters, before they passed away. Those are all "(Blue Collar Jobs)". After reading a lot of post. It saddens me that primarily BW view our jobs as mediocre. They weren't saying that when we were saving their lives 😢

[@matthewgaines10]

Because they believe your service and sacrifice is owed to them. They don’t value your contributions because they expect it as a given just as electricity, water, logistics, and food. It will always be there so no need to celebrate the norm. The perks of living in a civilized society.

[@yosquidd242]

Most police are not life savers for one, but I get your gist!

[@slickrick8046]

@@yosquidd242 They don’t actually stop crime either…they show up after the fact.

[@negroraven9458]

@@matthewgaines10EXACTLY!!!

[@johnnyBrwn]

King, don't appraise your worth based on the rubric of females. Especially not traumatized black women. Kimberly has been single for years. Totally unlovable.

[@kevinc3342]

Higher-earning women of other countries actually have little to no issues dating and marrying blue-collar men - these men are STILL men. The former New Zealand Prime Minister is married to some guy, and no one really knows his name or occupation. If women think they're exceedingly better than blue-collar men, then please leave these men alone for women who want them!!

[@jamaalfowler7995]

It's Crazy Bro, Black Women in this Country can't seem to or refuse to take that in man!!!!

[@Totsugaru]

It's ironic how it displays their lack of knowledge to come to that conclusion, hopefully they didn't get these diplomas just to display their "smarts".

[@omglivetv1]

Respectfully that's cap... Don't know what countries in the western hemisphere you've been to or lived in.. But universally women are not going to jeopardize their standing in the status / dominance hierarchy especially white women..

[@davidchung2203]

Same as Asian I think is only black woman

[@davidchung2203]

@@omglivetv1 I live in Australia. Aussie Asian so is not cap mate 😂 also tradies in Australia has relationship. It's crazy in the US

[@thepassportog]

1) Narrow dating pool 2) Have difficulty finding adequate partner 3) Complain about dating pool 4) Go to 1)

[@dccarsonmusic]

I’m a retired military officer and aviator degreed at the masters level. I wake up and am good without having to lift a finger. I am doing my passion which is music along with a few other entrepreneurial ventures. I don’t think some of our sisters understand that when it comes to their preferences, they still need to understand what their preferences prefer. We will always want a kind, respectful and supportive woman who is a soft place to land, not a steel floor covered in sandpaper. Degrees, money and accomplishments are great, but those aren’t key priorities men look for.

[@ogskullomania3119]

Same I’m medically retired from three army and now a musician I have great pension. So happy I don’t subscribe to this dumb shit. It’s unfortunate capitalism ruins it all

[@anthonythompson1680]

As a white collar man who did well in the money markets and dealing in stocks, i always looked up to blue collar guys because they do "real" jobs. Anybody who does a honest day's work should be respected. One day without the manual workers and the whole world that these high and mighty women inhabit would come to a grinding halt. They need to learn to respect the blue collar men.

[@joelbreezy3116]

As a blue collar brother...I appreciate the white collar brothers...like u said...both sides need each other...and both sides can make money. I'm studying stocks..and being more financial responsible and a lot of that information comes from our white collar brothers...so it goes hand in hand Salute

[@yolandalindsay8368]

@@joelbreezy3116 - Well Said. The HEAD goes nowhere without the body AND The BODY does NOT make a move without the head.

[@odog76543]

I find it very interesting that she claims the difference in class and hobbies is what causes many of the problems in relationships between men and women of different job backgrounds or income disparities. But we all know that wealthy men have no problem "marrying down", wedding women who are blue collar, women who make less money than they, women who do not have college education. It's the WOMEN who get resentful if they choose to marry a man who is less educated, earns less money, or who works a blue collar job. It primarily women who are classist and elitist when they attain a certain level of accomplishment.

[@melanatedsoulja7067]

All this resentment based off of social activities and hobby differences are only regulated to bm..they have no problem dating a bottom shelf Brad but go hiking, kayaking, hiking, camping, etc...some of them ended up in "tragic arrangements!"

[@dillon2829]

@@melanatedsoulja7067 BRUH! They do allll the free and fun 💩 with white dudes but we are suppose to buy them Bentleys and fly them out. If I’m going to mess with a 304 might as well be a professional one

[@kaylacarter8766]

@@melanatedsoulja7067lies.

[@Princetonian4eva]

Women in either scenario aren’t resentful until they get left having to do everything without help, respect or acknowledgment. Men don’t have an issue dating “down” because they hold the power and if they are dating “down” by a significant degree, they’re usually financing the woman’s participation in hobbies. A lot of men are too proud or feel immascualted if their female partner tries to do the same. And as someone who went to an Ivy League school and lived in West London, the hobbies and mindset are different. A lot of people in this thread have never actually socialised with wealthy and highly educated people but LOVE to make assumptions. The mark is being missed by such a large margin, it might as well be in space.

[@r.walker7986]

Men who marry down usually suffer for it in the end. It just means he's gonna have to pay more child support and alimony. This is a silly argument becasue in our society many people embrace gender roles and a wealthier man marrying a lesser woman does not upset the male provider, role the way a female with means does when she dates a man from a lower class,,,

[@tobi-44]

Elite women?, regular people with illusions of grandeur, what's your bloodline?, if you can not answer this question than abstain yourself from interjecting into a reality that supercedes your understanding.

[@bhillboy37]

As if having a college degree makes a wmn "elite"😂😂😂

[@matthewgaines10]

Foster, I believe has an Ivy League education. Thus, it further inflates her ego above her actual romantic prospects. She doesn’t understand why she’s losing out her.

[@bluchap43]

I've seen first hand a blue collar man put his wife through law school and after she graduated she resented him for not being in her new social class.

[@r.walker7986]

unevenly yoked...

[@EverythingisH8speech]

If the phrase black men are beneath me was a person

[@Princetonian4eva]

Yet she only dates black men and has had long term relationships? Try again

[@redpillscience1288]

Bulletin brief: we don't care about the preferences of feminist 😂😂😂

[@Princetonian4eva]

Then why did you watch the video and spend your energy commenting?

[@dwf6431]

@@Princetonian4evabecause this is chez chardes channel and not Kimberly’s the question is why are YOU spending your energy commenting. You are obviously a feminist/misandrist woman spending a lot of her time and energy commenting on an anti-feminist/misandrist channel, so the real question is why are YOU commenting.

[@geraldfranklin6049]

I myself, don't care for the "PRETENTIOUSNESS " of that circle of people who consider themselves as being better than anyone else.

[@aaw265]

You understand that a blue collar person can still be very educated and well read. What you do for work is just to bring in an income It is not the sum total of one's person.

[@BGeorge06]

Far too often women conflate sophistication with education.

[@khalil_SRT]

Let’s be real ain’t nobody checking for Kimberly Foster🤨🤣

[@sir1junior]

She too busy trying to be like everyone else instead of figuring out what makes her happy.

[@r.walker7986]

she seems pretty happy to men with her educated man...

[@nonyabiz12]

These types of women do a lot of projecting. The truth is they're jealous of successful men. They want to be in the position of the high earning successful men that they envy.

[@kole3737]

These the women that complain they the least protected 😅

[@robertedge861]

😮..You mean there arent blue-collar men with degrees, thats crazy. Police, Fire, Electricians, Plumbers,..they have to stop these naratives.

[@r.walker7986]

you know what she is talking about.

[@Buckshott_54]

I am a retired air traffic controller who made over six figures for most of my life. I worked mostly with white men and about 20% women. Almost all white. As I remember most all these white women were married to or had male partners who were “blue collar”. In Texas that means the oil industry, refineries, etc. Not once did I hear ANY white woman disparage and/or degrade the position of their blue collar husbands/significant others. Not once! Over 30 years!!

[@truebengalsfan]

Where women atleast now be doing that bs now only difference is they have bigger dating pool

[@truebengalsfan]

6:47 men who are uncomfortable making less than the woman they are with is because many women will lose respect for you and feel like she don't need you and leave you

[@db6881]

A blue collar white man and a blue collar black man are two completely different beings and attitudes.

[@dwf6431]

@@db6881in what ways? Be careful, Medium Man is out there and has probably debunked multiple talking points you are about to use.

[@jus3278]

I'm a Black man with two Masters who was raised in the burbs and what I can say is that the overwhelming majority of people in college are not intellectuals. I've dated several Black women with degrees and only a small portion are what I would consider to be intellectual. Most spend their time pretending to be rich by having brunch and other BS. Furthermore Black people, particularly in Black areas all hang out in the same spaces for the most part. Yes I love a good museum, lecture, poetry night, etc but I also love to have fun at parties, bars, and clubs like most single adult Black folks.

[@TheKobe42]

I remember a couple years ago on the show Black-ish it’s a episode where Dre is talking about his son Jack and it’s known he isn’t as smart as his sister Diane, but he is really good with his hands. He fixes toilets.lights and is really good at that stuff, He ends up saying all he is gonna be is a blue collar guy who doesn’t go to college and his father Laurence Fishburne checks him, He says who built your home, roads, bridges, installs your plumbing. Dre backs down, But his Pops was where is this dismissive attitude coming from with the people who make this machine work. No guys could careless about your money, career or criteria that you think us tied to success. But that’s these people got when it comes to the dating market. Great Video Breakdown!👍🏽👍🏽

[@ChezCharde]

Thanks!

[@professorcarltonejones]

This is why I try to avoid bougie women. Recently made that mistake and lesson learned.

[@danbryan2594]

Women are generally hypergamous. Google the definition. Unfortunately many people equate education & income with an increase in social status. This is the challenge & not discussed enough. The wealthy or upper class are looking at relationships as an exercise in branding. Will marrying someone who is an entertainer or vocal be good for the brand. If people understand this, some of the newly educated women may realise they’re better off with someone of their own class and opt to rise together. Irrespective - you’ll never hear a truly 1% person discuss working class men or women. It’s new money that loves to talk.

[@yosquidd242]

I don't have any of that "new money" you mention, but you make a lot of sense!

[@MrOriginalMan]

🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯

[@slickrick8046]

@danbryan2594 This isn’t a 1% conversation. But, most men who didn’t grow up with a hood or trailer park socialization…generally don’t marry women who do. It doesn’t matter if they have a college education and a good paying career because their class is still shaped by the environment they grow up in.

[@r.walker7986]

1% people tend to hate other 1% people or people who are adjacent to it or have some talent or beauty that sets them apart but they understand that dating down equals dating a person that has every reason to lie to you to be around you and a person that will try to take as much as they can if its time for them to leave. The protect what they have becasue they are wise. Kim is being wise.

[@ruminantmelanoid5444]

Most of these women grew up, as most black people do, working class. They had the same basic childhood as the men they don't want to date. They are *92 octane climbers* (shout out to BGS ibmor for the breakdown). The have the education and careers and the want a white collar man to complete the level-up trifecta. The problem is they're still 87's at heart. I posit that they don't want blue collar men because the experience would feel too familiar to life growing up.

[@nicolea.7501]

It makes me think the women are bitter about how they grew up. I went to middle school with kids from working and lower income families. A lot of the girls were smart but they bullied the kids who had professional parents or parents with higher paying government jobs. I think a lot of them are angry because they believed going to college would then get them a professional man and they could flex on the people who they felt beneath.

[@lion-o6821]

Spot on! Men love successful woman. They don't love being disrespected and despised because they don't have the same asparations.

[@laroiceturner9059]

I don't think she wants men to start asking about the quality level of women: is she a Virginia or ran through? Kids as a single mom or no? Engaged in intercourse with pooky or no? What is her pedigree? Raised by a single mom or both parents, not grandparents? What is her breeding? Does she have manners and class or is she without this training?

[@dogtown1718]

There are plenty of blue collar men that are in high social status classes. They tend to be able fit and be comfortable in any social setting they are placed in.

[@r.walker7986]

the ones who own the companies, yes.

[@dogtown1718]

@@r.walker7986 You obviously know no nothing about men. White collar or blue collar

[@r.walker7986]

@@dogtown1718 Sure thing... How about blue collar men and men in general learn to accept that they are not every woman's cup of tea and women get to qualify or disqualify men for literally any reason they want? men are out here disqualifying women becasue they wear false eyelashes...

[@TheDream3873]

I think we’re at a point where elitism is becoming a bigger part in the AA community where as before we always thought of our people as part of the same socioeconomic group. This elitism seems to be lead more by Black women than men.

[@co9971]

My mom is white collar and my dad is blue collar. What he didn’t bring home in a car paycheck, he saved in what he could do around the house ( fixing the car, Sheetrocking, fixing the septic tank). My mom was annoyingly masculine and butted heads with my dad all the time.

[@Princetonian4eva]

Because the financial burden was on her so she was taking on what society has conditioned people to believe is a masculine role.

[@r.walker7986]

was she masculine or just more capable? You are proving her point.

[@CommonGround99205]

Classism in the black community has always been an issue.

[@lee399]

Simple. No proper thinking man wants a selfish woman. Nor a bitter one. Nor a disrespectful one.

[@Princetonian4eva]

Swap the gender and it still works 👌🏽

[@eve3363]

My dad has an 8th grade education and he taught me about politics and history. Having a degree doesn't make you wise nor does it make you a good conversationalist.

[@Princetonian4eva]

But it does give you certain advantages in life as it does to your children. The first indicator of wealth is if you’re born into it and second is education. Therefore, education statistically leads to wealth more often and creates the opportunity for children of educated people to be born into wealth, thus continuing a cycle. Let’s not act like we don’t see this across the globe just because people have personal experiences that make them feel good.

[@goesrawr]

This sounds like cope ngl. There absolutely is a difference between someone that has an 8th grade level education and someone with a college degree. And to each their own! Its okay, stop trying to force everyone to like the same things.

[@sportsactuary8574]

Ms. Chez, you didn't mention the woman in the superior position having a tendency to make decisions which affect both parties or the family as a whole without even discussing it with the man or even if she does discuss it with him she ends up doing it her way.

[@coldestwaters]

It doesn’t have anything with the position lol. They start that shit in high school when they carry pookies baby and drag down the quality of life for everyone who loves her.

[@PD-qu8dq]

@@coldestwaters oh my, you just spoke a mouthful of truth. They decide that it takes a village, but never ask the village

[@ChezCharde]

I didn't think of that point but yes this can be a serious issue

[@Princetonian4eva]

@@coldestwatersYet they were able to get an education and lucrative career? You’re not talking about the same type of woman. 🥴

[@monicacreator3168]

She's currently dating an educated black man so.....

[@LivestreamSurfer]

Whenever, women or BW in particular start going off on these little diatribes about BM, they should first practice saying them in a mirror. #projectionisahelluvadrug

[@rodb66]

Man, it's sad that some educated women become elitist in their thinking.

[@Alpha_apex]

Lmao this is all hilarious to me. Im a truck driver at the moment. Been for a couple years now. I met my financial goal in this industry (100k) and decided i want to switch to IT because its something ive always loved and its a forever learning enviornment. The idea that men in blue collar industries somehow dont have knowledge or circles beyond "basic" circles is humorous lol. I know a real estate developer in a carribean island (wont name specifics) building a resort style complex filled with condos and houses. Because we have a relationship, i purchased a condo cheaper than what theyre actually selling for. The only connection this woman has is with her slave master at her job. I just cant with these type of women lol. Smh

[@ChezCharde]

I do think there are general misconceptions around how Blue Collar Men can be successful. I'd be curious to see if there is a real industry break down on this. Comparing White Collar With Debt + Blue Collar Trade Skillsmen , comparing overall assets and debt to income ratio.

[@Alpha_apex]

@@ChezCharde yes, i would be interested in seeing that as well. One thing i know for sure though. Blue coller guys make up most of the small businesses in america. And if this rhetoric keeps going, they're going to start taxing on those repairs 😂.

[@slickrick8046]

@@ChezCharde I believe Kim Foster is in Texas. In Texas the average pay for people with a bachelor’s degree is $48K annually…it’s $56k for truck drivers.

[@slickrick8046]

@@Alpha_apex You’re missing the fact that Kim Foster and many of her subscribers are the same females who cry about colorism and support body positivity. She’s a flaming feminist. If those females think they got it like that and can be that selective because they have so many men begging to be with them…they have every right to.

[@dillon2829]

@@slickrick8046 right, that’s the joke. People who work in offices are also miserable, nasty people.

[@47shadows76]

Classism amongst bw is fierce these days. She's not even attractive but thinks she has many options

[@B1_FBA]

What’s most interesting is these are the same women that if you ask about their past there’s a string of men who needed a place to stay, money or car to drive and/or never took them serious to begin with.

[@wilsonfrancis4572]

resentment- indignation or ill will stemming from a feeling of having been wronged or offended. synonym: anger. If she is saying blue collar men have resentment towards these "higher class" women that they've coupled with, what did these women do to cause the resentment? 10 out of 10 times it's disrespect. Typically the mans indignation will be gaslit as ignorance/"this is above your head/paygrade", or jealousy of her status, class and station when the reality is that you said or did something that is an affront to the senses and sensibilities of that man. They'll blame it on the man or class difference but in reality it's lack of self awareness and give a fu*k.

[@salaamallahalternatechannel]

EVEN IN HIGH SCHOOL I WAS IGNORED AND SHUNNED BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE A CAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@entertainingsportshighligh7525]

She ain't trying to bring TYRONE to GOVERNORS BALL. lol 😀

[@p4rt_t1me_g0d]

I can only attest to my situation, my wife has always made more than me, yet she's a traditional woman. She doesn't talk down or try to degrade me, she asks for my opinion on financial matters, and she respects me as a man and even strokes my ego a bit. This is a 20 plus year relationship, married for 9. Her finances weren't a factor in my decision to marry her, particularly because she didn't have the job at the time. She simply gets me, I don't know how or why, but she understands that I've been through the ringer and took a chance on me, in turn I offered all that I am to her. She showed me that she truly cared for me as a person outside of my physical appearance and lustful desire. This might be an exception to the rule, but I'm not going to say that there isn't someone out there for everyone, it's just harder to connect than it's ever been.

[@Princetonian4eva]

She’s not traditional if she works and makes money. That’s the modern model as traditional dictates the woman stays home and doesn’t work. What you’re actually saying is she’s doing all the work within the home and more lucrative work than you outside of it.

[@bisquit48]

This was a very interesting perspective

[@PipNPensPublishing]

Yet if something needs fixing, a blue collar man will be called quickly SMH

[@gentlhawk7]

Ok, so... 1. Working next to/with a man does not give you "access" to him. You are a colleague, thats all. Work life and personal life are not the same. 2. Certain women thinking they are a different class to "blue collar" men isnt necessarily true. Many working men make six figures. At or above many of these women that claim to be above them. 3. Outside of a few certain subjects getting good grades just shows how well a person has been indoctrinated, not educated. Lets be honest, the real issue many women have for not dating "blue collar" men is superficial. Its about being "seen" by others to be on a higher social status. Most men dont give a fat rat's a$$ about social status.

[@danieleugenewilliams]

There’s nothing wrong with having preferences. However, a higher income is not a 1:1 replacement for beauty. I think high-earning women with average looks resent being treated like they have average looks. I also have blue collar friends and family who earn six-figure incomes (a few that earn seven figures). We have to respect that the comforts of polite society are not possible without our blue collar brothers.

[@AB-vb4sv]

I have personally witnessed women use men they don’t like as a civil experiment - a charity case. As soon as they get mad , they speak to these men with contempt. You can revolve as a couple, read books, buy suitable clothes and become more cultured. Women use these men so they can say “well, I tried”.😊

[@miguelalmodovar6472]

I’m happy I’m not the only one who caught her classist takes

[@jamaicanboy342]

It's so bad that these men would even send these women to school then she would leave.

[@ceedouglas3961]

I’m a 60 year old black woman and what I’m hearing is she wouldn’t dare bring a blue collar black man around her elite friends, and the way she talks says she trying to fit into certain groups, but let her lose any position that she think is guaranteed and see how fast they drop her ass. Slow your roll Felicity 😅

[@r.walker7986]

Educated people never lose their position. You can't take away a person's education.

[@yolandalindsay8368]

This is mainly a Woman's Problem. When iT comes to MOST men, Ability is Important AND whether OR not YOU can MAKE him Do iT.

[@Heywhatsthat8plus52]

Chez is spitting 🔥🔥

[@undisputedtruth4954]

There isn't a man alive who resents anyone's success. If we can succeed and remain men, women want to be any equal, so women need to shut up & step up if they getting bread. Men have always done it, felt good about getting it done, not trashing women for being broke, not treating women as "less than", and we do it with genuine joy & love. Women, don't realize men can bang some strange and never think about it again. There's no emotional strings. It's just sex. Women start looking lliking the side dude, and they're incapable of honesty at all times.

[@r.walker7986]

She probably does not want a man she has to "handle"... It all boils down to interests and lifestyle and social circles. She is Ivy league educated. It's not about money, money does not equal the access you attain when you go the education/white collar route. If a woman enjoys a more cultured life and wants to be around intellectuals and enjoy the arts, etc, why would she choose to be with a man who probably does not and can't afford to be in those circles? Why drag that man into settings where in a lot of cases he won't even understand the conversations or have shared experiences etc? She would have to pay his way or live at a lower standard than she earned for herself, that gets old and awkward becasue of the gender roles so many choose to embrace. If you are gonna be pro gender roles, etc then you have to understand why women ultimately have trouble with men in a lower station in life than they are. Everybody is not for everybody. Not sure why so many have an issue with this, people are so quick to talk about how so many black women don't make any money and don't have education, etc, why no go mess with one of them? And I don't then men who have accomplished things with their lives should pair off with unaccomplished uneducated women either.... It makes no sense to level up and then have to lowkey slum it to be in a relationship... Nobody becomes a millionaire to have someone trying to take them to Applebee's on dates...

[@anthonyivory5711]

I have a PHD (Public High school Diploma) and I haven’t made less the $100k a year this century. Made $215k last year . Not bragging just showing you your lack of a degree does not limit your income. What do I do? IT self taught. It’s amazing what you can do when you have drive and don’t have to repay student loans. I mentored a young man who learned coding and now makes $80k , 6 months out of High School. If STATUS is your goal you will continue getting what you have now. Stop steroids typing men who get their hands dirty making a living . You would be shocked at how many pass the $100k bar. Hire a Plumber, carpenter etc.

[@r.walker7986]

Its not about money, its about compatibility and having social capital and aspiring to be a decision maker in society instead of one of the people who just have to live with the decisions.

[@vergilabrams1225]

Hell I've seen men brag about their Women making more money than they are

[@JayDaReactor]

Doesn’t she know that a lot of blue collar jobs pay well? Plus without those men working those jobs it wouldn’t be a country

[@maryann2970]

The podcaster here didn't play the full clip b/c it's behind a paywall, so you're missing a lot of the discussion.

[@machetedonttweet1343]

I went to college, I graduated from college, twice. AA while I was in the military, and a BA , after I got out. Just for the credentials I needed ,for the jobs I wanted. As a young man in NYC I wanted to go into the trades , but then I found out about mob run unions. So I enlisted. My parents would rather drive Cadillac's then save for me or my brothers ,college. He got a full academic ride to American University, for his BA. And a full ride for his MA ,and PhD from Washington University .When he told me he needed to take a year off I called him a bitch, He went to school I got shot at .Most of the educated black women I dated ,I teach them how to use silverware,(one does not use a fork to hold down a piece of on your plate , cut it ,then change hands. (I learned that because I worked in personal security services). My ex wife was impressed because she never had been on a date with a guy that paid the bill with a credit card. And that was in 1989. When 2 of my white SCUBA diving buddies got married ,She was a masters in nursing, he was a contractor. I gave them a check ,and a cook book. They told me years later, that the cook book is the best gift we got ,because we use it every day.

[@camuppodcast]

Kevin Samuels actually did talk about this

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

The average bus driver makes more than the avg black woman

[@lee399]

Two things. 1. Classism/status 2. Degree = I don't have to listen to our follow you. The Kim Foster & Eboni Williams type state say this is there mindset (eventually).

[@j.baldwin3012]

This isn't as common with non-black people. My archery instructor is a house husband and his wife is college professor. I used to work in a warehouse where one of my coworkers in the warehouse was married to a woman that played in the Detroit Symphony Orchestra. Both couples were white. Anecdotes? Yes. Are these relationship dynamics common with black couples? No.

[@Thatiswhatitismadefor]

Your archery instructor is not a house husband. He works as an archery instructor. Warehouse workers and orchestra musicians are in the same league . The reason non black people are not commenting is because they actively support, believe and practice what these ladies are saying.

[@scottakers8746]

It's a shame how the modern world view relationships. We no longer see individuals as human. We see them as tools to bring us satisfaction on our own terms. Since our views of people are so shallow and degrading, why do we even try to have relationships? Let us all just buy and sell what we want from each other and keep it moving. Since we don't value people anymore 😢.

[@r.walker7986]

Nowhere did she say she did not see anyone as human or that a man who is blue collar had less value. She just said that from her experience blue collar men do not fit in to her lifestyle and her preferred way of living. It sno different then a person who is a christian preferring to date other christians. Lets keep it real. men can't deal with someone telling them they can't have something.

[@9cyph]

We SERIOUSLY need to talk about this “Pretentious Elitism” among Black Women with “Degrees”. They really do think these “Degrees” make them better than everyone else, particularly black Men. I don’t think we realize how much low level contempt is there in our communities. From birth our women are presented with talk about “Niggas ain’t ish” and Men are always presented as these “bumbling idiots” who “Couldn’t tie their shoe on straight without the black woman”. No wonder they don’t think Black Men are fit to lead and refuse to follow black men. Ebony K Williams made comments about Blue Collar Workers being C & D Students, is simply not necessarily true. First of all, there are PLENTY of C & D Students that grow up to be business owners & CEOs worth Millions/Billions of dollars, the same way there are Smart, Intelligent people that made A & Bs that decided to go other routes that college and business. Then there is Kimberly Foster here, who thinks that no Blue Collar worker owns a suit or that if he was at a Corporate Event he wouldn’t know how to behave or have intellectual conversations. Both sound Elitists, Pretentious, Arrogant, Egotistical, Entitled, Superficial, Condescending, and just plain Insulting to a HUGE portion of the male population who does the Jobs that women won’t/aren’t willing to do which make our modern Society Work. Many Men looked at the job market & CHOOSE to do those jobs over going to College & getting their “Degrees”. I know plenty of Women today with Bachelor’s & Master’s Degrees that act like they are just “Balling” with “Boss Chick” and “Entrepreneur” in their Instagram pages showing themselves living “Lifestyles” and “Getting Flown Out”, that still only male $40k to $75k\year, but are anywhere from $50 to $100k in Student Loan Debt, $30k in consumer debt, have an expensive car note, and live in an over price apartment in the city with no savings living paycheck to paycheck for a job they hate that don’t care about them, but because they got a “Degree” and small business where they sell Candles or Hair Bundles on the side online they think “They Cute & A Boss”, & think are BETTER than Men EVEN in their Financial Bracket, particularly the one’s who didn’t go to College or who have Blue Collar Jobs. Yet these Men will have a House, No Debt, benefits, Savings, a Retirement, and a paid off car note living comfortably, making just as much and many times MORE than she does. There are plenty of blue collar Men making $100k. And yes, many of these Men are educated & highly intelligent that went to the Military, maybe got a skill/trade, & some got an associates or Bachelor’s degree, but they don’t go around thinking what they do defines them or their partner AS A PERSON. A Man can be a Police Officer, Fire Fighter, Social Worker, School Teacher, Coach, Non-Profit Community organizer, Activist or a plethora of Jobs which do not make a lot of money or require a degree, but could still be Highly Intelligent and a great person. And one last thing that so Many Black Women today do not realize or understand, is that a Man does not hit his Financial stride on average until the ages of 35 to 45, & a Man hits his financial peak around 45 to 55. Eboni is 39, so her points about him owning the Bus is actually a valid one in that sometimes that is the direction many of these Men are going which most black women never get to see cause they will dismiss a Man immediately off of where he is at right now in life, & not based off where he is going. Men do not forget this. I’m not talking about a Man who is just talk, but you can look at a Man if you pay attention to his ACTIONS in relation to his Goals, his Vision, his Ambitiousness, his Willpower, his Work Ethic, his Integrity, his Heart etc, those ACTIONS will tell you if he is going places. There are Men who start off as just Electricians, Plumbers, Construction Workers who end up owning businesses in those fields & making Hundreds of thousands to even Millions of dollars. I know a young brother, good looking, in shape who did Security & now owns his own Security company that last I check was already making $30k\Month that’s growing EXPONENTIALLY. Women like Eboni K Williams and Kimberly Foster would have overlooked him as a Partner thinking “She was better than him” and that “He wasn’t good enough” for her. Far too many black women want to stand at the Finish Line & pick the winners & you wonder why the Men don’t respect or want you when they make it. The point here is not to bash black women but to open your mind up to another way of thinking, cause women from other cultures do not make this mistake at this same rate, & at the end of the day I want to see black love thrive, and this mindset hampers it. I’m not saying that if you are a Lawyer you have to date a bus driver, but the problem is in the mindset where the overall focus is on things that are Material & Superficial over How that Man treats you, his Goals, Aspirations, Ability to lead, his Character, does he come from a good family, would he be a great Husband and/or Father, is he reliable, sticks by his word, is he faithful, how does he treat you, make you feel, do you have the same values & want the same things out of life, etc. Love is not a Mathematical Check list where 6ft, plus 6 figures, plus 6 pack = Love. Unfortunately, we put far too much emphasis today on Materialistic & Superficial stuff that we often overlook People that could have brought us true Happiness, & ironically some would have even gotten us the other stuff to. It is a lack of Character & discernment in our dating culture which needs to be changed.

[@9cyph]

As a Black Man, let me explain another point of view “About Lifestyle”. So many black women go to school, get degrees, pursue these amazing jobs & careers so that they can “Achieve a Lifestyle”, which they ultimately DEMAND from a Man. I thought that was literally the entire point of you going out & “Getting the bag”, was so “You ain’t gotta depend on no Man” cause “You don’t need a Man for nothing” 🤔. Why does a Man have to fund your lifestyle when you can do it for yourself? The deference & why it doesn’t work is that a Man gets those achievements so that he can provide for his wife & family, so he can have someone to SHARE those things with, most women get those things strictly for themselves so that they won’t need a Husband. Women need to pick a lane. This is why Men don’t “Respect the Job/Career” or those “Degrees”, cause 9 times out of 10, as the Man, He will still be expected to “Provide a certain “Lifestyle” for that woman regardless, which is a more “Traditional” style role. So whether a Man Makes $150k\year & the woman makes $250k, $150k, $80k, $40k, or $0, that Man is usually expected to be the one to Ask her out, plan the dates, be willing to pick her up, PAY for said dates, and often buy more gifts and trips throughout the course of the relationship in order to “Give her a Lifestyle”. Even for the most Successful, beautiful women like Eboni K Williams ain’t providing for that Man’s Lifestyle. So all that talk about your degrees, money, & accomplishments, the Man LITERALLY AIN’T BENEFITING FROM IT. At least not in any significant way. This is why that more “Educated and Financially” capable woman loses to that woman making $40k or who doesn’t even have a job cause that woman making the more money is not going to be Appreciative for that Man, EVEN WHEN HE DOES THOSE THINGS, cause “She can’t do it herself”! Whereas the women on the lower end will usually be WAY more appreciative. It has nothing to do with “Intimidation”. Men generally love to feel “Useful” and “Wanted”. This is why all this talk about “How much you don’t need us” is not only stupid, but unnecessary. It would be like if you were Hungry and wanted a Chicken Sandwich so you go to the corner and there is a Chick Fil A, and a Popeye’s on the corner. You walk into the Popeye’s and the first thing they say is, “First of all, you could get the out our store for all we care, we don’t need your business for ish! We doing big business over here!” Now, even if that is true, what is the point of that? And how does that make you feel as a customer? And whether or that is true or not isn’t even the point, it is just unnecessary. Then what happens if you go to order and say, “Can I have a Chicken Sandwich with no pickle” and they say, “What type of Tip you gone give me? Naw, I ain’t doing all that, we done already made the sandwiches so you gone take this Sandwich how I give it to you! That’ll be $20”! So you leave and go across to Chick Fil A and as soon as you walk in they are like, “Welcome to Chick Fil A, how may I serve you? Yes you can have that Sandwich with no pickles, that will be $6 and here is a complementary gift card off your next purchase! Pleasure to serve you!” Now, even if the Popeye’s Chicken Sandwich taste better, most will go to that Chick Fil A over that Popeye’s. This is how Men view Beautiful “Educated” Women like Eboni K Williams and Kimberly Foster. Men are not “Intimidated, y’all just provide “Horrible Service”, AKA you are not good partners for a relationship.

[@eve3363]

@@9cyph "This is why Men don’t “Respect the Job/Career” or those “Degrees”" Men should respect these degrees because the way things are going, you are going to need an educated partner who will be able to keep up with these children's work. School is not what it is anymore. Before, a parent could send their child to school and everything works out. Now with socialism taking over the world starting with our education system, everything has to be done a certain way. It's no longer, "1+1=2". It's now, "Why does 1+1=2?" Now if a student puts "2" as the answer, the answer is not fully correct. I'm telling you. Nowadays, you have to stay up on education so you are going to need a educated partner in some form!

[@kevinlkeys]

Well done Brother, your response should be required reading

[@Uke2405]

If it pains you, go create your uppity lifestyle. I comr from family of lawyers. Did you think i talked to plumbers? I mingled with men of same status or higher. My husband has 3 degrees and a business owner. You guys act like all black people are the same. Yes there is classism and it isn't a bad thing. I am raising my kids that way. Be polite to everyone, but know who to mingle with. Say no to mediocrity

[@turdferguson7105]

Still to this day. I cant understand why men still give womyn like her the time of day.

[@WolfamongSheep626]

Because no matter how annoying she is she still has a 🐱. And for some men that’s enough unfortunately.

[@matthewgaines10]

She’s not taken seriously by the men she wants. Her peak value to the men she wants is just a ride around the block. Why do you think they are angry!?

[@melanatedsoulja7067]

​@@matthewgaines10 boom💣....facts!!

[@1stthink236]

Men have been in academic, economic and social so called high positions for 100s of years but never ran their mouth like that about it..

[@ninagrace-lee8323]

This whole conversation is kind of dumb. Kim Foster has been transparent about her upper middle class upbringing, and her now elite status. There’s the regular middle class folks, and then the ones who live in the plantation style homes and had the nicest stuff growing up. The kids from those families grow up with well educated and financially successful parents, bred to go to the Ivies Her opinion is important bc it’s anecdotal evidence of something we already knew: people prefer to marry or date within their socioeconomic class or higher. But the relevancy for the men in this conversation? Unclear. A lot of hurt blue collar men in the comment section (yes, most of them resentful) hating on educated women that weren’t in their zip code to begin with. Quite literally Kim is not the avg black woman regardless of her physical appearance. So again…relevancy here? The data does not show BW have these crazy high standards and typically will date whomever, even if the woman is an actual celebrity.

[@chrischilds2231]

Love ya💙💯

[@BrandonCampbell76]

One black woman I love to listen to is April Mason she always takes about women who lead with their degrees, and they are the last to get picked .

[@sportsactuary8574]

Ms. Foster is suggesting that she has performed some type of informal study. If we trust her we should respect that. If a well educated woman asked me whether she should date a blue collar man I would advise her to give it a try ONLY if she knew how to be respectful of an opinion which is in conflict with her training and also if she knew how and when to stop talking.

[@fodaysankoh8930]

I am blessed to be doing VERY WELL in my career (with my advanced degrees) and have traveled and lived overseas for decades. I have NEVER desired, nor do I EVER have an interest in wine tastings, mixers, lounges or corporate parties. My ideal woman rocks with me from Al Jareau to Al Jazeera.

[@r.walker7986]

isn't great everyone is allowed to have preferences and pursue people who fit their bill? You and her would not be a match and thats fine.

[@BegodeEx30]

Only broken men are resentful of others success, men, women & even younger people. All other men content with themselves, grateful for what they have, desire to see others succeed aren't the least bit resentful or jealous of others accomplishments, especially women. Successful, accomplished women who think men are intimidated by their success either need to understand many successful women develop a competitive mindset that make them think they're a better man than men, allow their success to basically give them a mental sex change which is what repels men & not their accomplishments & money. A woman with her own money is a blessing to most men, less money we have to spend trying to make one happy. But what won't be tolerated is a woman who allow her success to go to her head to the point she thinks her status, accomplishments, money means she's superior to men making less, basically forgetting she's still just a woman. The educated successful women need to understand this is the image women before them have create in many men's eyes & if they're not that way they have to find a way to let it be known they're not that way & if it is find a way to change it.

[@ChezCharde]

I agree a secure man will welcome an extra paycheck provided there is no disrespect

[@dillon2829]

Even a lot of broke men don’t care, “broken” is more the word, funny thing is, a lot of women with these fake statuses are BROKEN deep down inside.

[@mIKE.TURNup]

I was married raised 2 kids all on a blue collar salary. We are not losers .

[@Demsky83]

They can shift the goal post better than NFL field crews

[@Hamashyach369]

I’m blue collar, I bet I own more books then her.

[@Demsky83]

Right now she's dating no one. 😂

[@loliwelch9151]

Incorrect

[@starchildthesupertrucker3.242]

Like Sarge wp, it's Blue collor Guys who are making Gwap. I'm an owner operator OTR truck driver. I make 180k a year.

[@bluejay9968]

Yeah I'm working on my second trade. You can have college 😆!

[@gordonallen9095]

It's not that some men can't handle, or resent your "success" they're not as AMAZED or IMPRESSED by it as you think you he should be. If you come off as arrogant, and condescending, with megalomaniac tendencies, THAT'S what they can't "handle." A "college degree" is not the ONLY path to career success, or a high earning career. This is from a trade technical school, AND college graduate that is comfortably retired after spending 35 years in a blue collar career who's been happily married to a "down to earth" college educated woman who is "successful" in her OWN right for over 25 years.

[@Blackie991]

Damn good video broken down to tasty educational bites. Great job.

[@mdaaaa1211]

So it was all okay when men married down in social status for centuries and elevated those women to their class, but it's all problem when it's the other way around 🤔 In fact, one of the biggest social mobility strategies has been men marrying women from lower socio-economic classes. This is why society does really benefit from women becoming educated or earning as much as men.

[@mr_willwhite8465]

*College Educated feminist bw ALWAYS miss this: if those of us White Collar, College Grad, 6-figure blk men outnumbered them 10:1, it wouldn't make us desire them any more. They focus on "not enough blk men meeting these requirements" when the problem is the large % of that archetype of men don't Want them anyways*

[@SugarSystemco]

This is true, this is why I don't look at men in general at all anymore. The odds are against me anyways.

[@mr_willwhite8465]

@@SugarSystemco smart

[@Princetonian4eva]

Yes, hence the divestment movement. There are a lot of professional bw here in London who are dating and marrying non-bm at increasing rates. And statistically (looking at the UK and US), these marriages are the longest lasting among the interracial pairings. Even the bm who wrote “Is marriage for white peoples” said bw were better marrying outside their race because as you said, the pool of financial stable and/or educated bm that are not currently or have been incarcerated that would be interested in dating within their race is too small.

[@mr_willwhite8465]

@Princetonian4eva the problem is divestors use a slight of tongue when fooling bw. They'll show pics/vids of fit/feminine/ childless women in their 20s/early 30s (about 3-5% max) marrying white men & "sell" that as a market to the rest of bw. But most divestors (like 95%) are fat/non feminine/have other men's kids/disagreeable/etc. See, what divestors NEVER zero in on is what SPECIFIC TYPE of bw non-bm marry. Know who? Fit/feminine/friendly/cooperative/submissive/childless - the EXACT SAME archetype marriage caliber bm want. Fat/masculine/mean/disagreeable/combative bw w/other men's kids will NEVER appeal to a large % of men of ANY race. Most Divestor bw don't care what the men THEY WANT MOST want, they only think about what they want. I suggest u pay close attention to the SPECIFIC TYPES of divestor bw who get married. 90% of them ARENT fat, ARENT 35+, DONT have another man's kids. Bw operate as if bm are the only group who should have to put up w/that (and thats bc older generation of bm simps put up with it)

[@vincemack2042]

No matter what the men's actions are in this situation women have shown that they dont desire to date any male who isnt making a comparable salary or better. This is solidified if nothing else about women is.

[@c____89]

Explain pookies…

[@vincemack2042]

@c____89 Pookies are men who have an edge to them and by edgy I mean men who "have a bold, provocative, or unconventional quality" to them. These men usually excite women sexually. However, if you notice, those excitements tend to die down once reality and life kicks in. From my experience, this is usually the result of a baby that has to be raised. Then, those men will no longer take priority. The priority will be on finances. Furthermore, pookies tend to have their greatest leverage during the youth and young adult ages. However, they will always have play. But a so called "Pookie" with money will have the pick of the liter even in old age. However, most people aren't living in that way. And for the many, finances dictate the day. Or rather stability. Hence the women complaining about "good men" being absent nowadays. Once you understand that dating is selfish and once you understand the things that women like, then you will understand where "Pookies" fit into this conversation.

[@karatekoala4270]

Here's the funny part. Im a blue collar worker Been a professional chef for over 20 years. Know what else? I mot only work but attend jazz festivals and art and wine fairs. I am member with at least 2 wineries and enjoy kicking it in the tasting room with my power rangers shirt on. I also like to jet ski, bowl, renaissance faire and a plethora of other activities. Assuming that just cause your blue collar means you don't enjoy the finer things in life is a fallacy. We kust dont over do ot and budget different.

[@kevelasdunn3736]

Most black women didn't come from upper class. Most black women's parents didn't even have college degrees. Most of them don't even get college degrees in job fields that they even have a passion for. They just get one because it's what they believe is the fastest way to 100k a year and don't even love what they do. They just want a lifestyle. They don't actually want anything meaningful in life. What man want a woman like that. Plus men with increased opinions are going to exercise them. Guys at the top worked much harder than women do to get there. It ain't just a matter of going to school for a man. If you think he going work ten times harder than a woman to get were he is and not reward himself with multiple women, you are crazy. So the best thing a woman can do for herself is get a blue collar man.

[@alexisc7565]

You must be high if you don't think that blue collar men don't "exercise options" as well. If all classes of men cheat, then we might as well gun for the best 😊

[@anthonyivory5711]

As long as women continue to date men to Impress their female friends they will be old and alone ! What happen to finding a man who just loves you for you. Social skills can be learned.

[@dafreako95]

To be honest as a man in his late 20's if I didn't have Indian benefits I would not be going to college. College costs too much and most of us don't come from families who can afford to help us get through college. I'm a business management major and what I learned is the average college debt is 37,500 dollars and most degrees we will get unless it's specialized in S.T.E.M., some medical, and management degrees will make 50k with that degree while being 37.5k in debt. You still have to raise a family, get a loan for a house, a car, utilities, rainy days, etc. Men literally just thought about the cost and return on it. You can work blue collar jobs and it might take some time but through hard work and respect from your boss and peers and your a competent leader you can make that 75k and up, I just don't think the women want to wait and build with a man. We have to be preassembled and the fucked up thing about this cycle is they gonna be mad we fucking on the younger chicks when they was going after the older men because the younger men were broke 😅😅

[@mikenagol69]

Based on her age and her looks, she should take anything she can get.. Just my opinion…

[@allenlevelle]

FACTS 💯

[@matthewgaines10]

Yes, she doesn’t have the looks and the character to demand much in the dating market from men. She thinks her education and achievements make a man of high status want her. She doesn’t understand men. She’s upset that we don’t work the way she believes we should.

[@allenlevelle]

@@matthewgaines10 Facts ... And plus she don't have the IT factor that most men desire.

[@noviews7051]

I dated more successfully women and never resented them. Here is the problem they always try to do ashame tactics. If you are around ppl and they compliment something you have she will point out she bought it. Anything she does financial she always point it out around other ppl. Recently a close friend lose his job and everyone his wife told about their financial issues but as soon as he is back on his feet after 2 months they happy again

[@yohighness]

That's some pretty shallow thinking for someone who went to Havard. What on Earth do they teach in those institutions?!