The Best and Worst Sega Mega Drive Deep Cuts | Kim Justice

[@Kim_Justice]

If you enjoyed this selection of somewhat lesser known Mega Drive titles both good and bad, then you can follow the Sega Mega Wheel live on my Twitch. :) www.twitch.tv/kim_justice

[@MrSegAsh]

So glad your still reviewing Megadrive games after all these Years Kim, it's like a old friend you can always rely on.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

You're*

[@TygonBC]

The putting part of that golf game is just unforgivable.

[@robertwest4269]

I wanna see Mike Matei do a complete playthrough. And then a rage compilation.

[@tkmmkt6569]

Agreed…

[@jonathanclarke4529]

They putt no effort in at all

[@big_ry82]

I watched Toys again recently for the first time in about 30 years. Is pure nightmare fever dream fuel. Has such an unsettling tone

[@dangerotterisrea]

It's pretty amazing how weird it all is, very guilty pleasure 😂

[@BloggosPow]

I'm a huge fan of Devil Hunter Yohko, it being one of my first megadrive games. The projectile bubble is definitely your best friend and will negate the need to get close to most enemies. Yeah the jumping is a bit odd but you can get used to it. It is worth perseverance and I go back to it and finish it every couple of years or so. As for the anime, I didn't see it until years later.... it was practically pr0n 😳

[@Andrew_TS]

Devil Hunter Yohko is about a teenage girl raised to fight demons, but she really doesn't want to. Also, she'll lose her magical demon fighting powers if she loses her virginity, which would basically be win-win to her, only she can't seem to get a boyfriend. So yeah, it's exactly that kind of anime.

[@burntyper]

Except it's really good

[@terrythe2dmaniac71]

You were one of the 1st content creators that highlighted great games for my beloved Sega Megadrive on KZbin back in the day, and seeing the channel going back to a similar format is very heart warming, keep up the amazing work my friend, your videos are as amazing as always 👊👊

[@syrus3k]

Legendary production values as always. Great to catch you on twitch the other day, really appreciate how you respond to the community

[@SteveBrandon]

The thing I always found weird about the Toys Genesis/Mega Drive game was the cover where they based it on the main movie poster where Robin Williams is wearing a hat with a smaller Robin Williams wearing a hat with an even smaller Robin Williams wearing a hat but they obviously didn't have the rights to Robin Williams' likeness so the cover is... just the hat. And there was an alternate movie poster that would have been ideal for a game cover, with Robin Williams sitting in a room with a checkerboard floor with that elephant thing and that black robot thing dominating the background; all they would have to have done would be to do a face swap on Robin Williams with a generic face.

[@Right_Said_Brett]

I've only just discovered your channel and it's great. I love that you cover some of the more obscure games, because it gives me ideas of titles to add to my ever growing LaunchBox setup (17,000 games and counting). Needless to say, I am now a subscriber to your channel. Keep up the good work.

[@googleboughtmee]

So while I was out today I was listening to CUPodcast and Ian mentioned Gargoyles as being one of the best looking games on the Mega Drive. "What the heck is Gargoyles?" I thought. How could I have missed this game if it's as impressive as he says? Then I come home, put on a Kim Justice video - and it's GARGOYLES! And, yeah, looks nice.

[@LemonTree9280]

KJ is my absolute go to for retro licensed content! Always manages to find me suprised

[@gaz-l621]

The only thing that has me slightly less hyped about the Gargoyles remaster (I never even knew there WAS a game) is that you only play as Goliath. This feels like a prime candidate for some kind of Castlevania 3-esque mechanic where you rescue the other gargoyles and they have unique abilities. Maybe Hudson's sword could damage enemies that block or something.

[@bsdims]

I'll have you know, Osomatsu-kun Hachamecha Gekijou suuuuure is something with a rather (for lack of a better word here) unfortunate story regarding its development.:) Metal Fangs's OST sounds like a banger, I'll have to give it a download from Zophar given the snippet of gameplay audio ya showed off. I've actually played a bit of Generations Lost back in 2016 when I was browsing shitty ROM sites, and I found it very underrated then, haven't played it much since though, so it was a pleasant surprise hearing it again.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

Thank you for finally motivating me to look up what “deep cut” means….3 decades on. All the retro emulator front-ends really need an “anti-favourite” button to tag some of these awful games… that I love to go and play after watching a video like this! I remember reading about Generations Lost in magazines back in the day, and it was dismissed as a poor clone of Flashback.

[@ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC]

Toys was an absolute pain to play because the "Peanut Gun" was the only effective projectile weapon in the game. Everything else was useless. The security camera segments were also frustrating.

[@YukoValis]

I adored the Gargoyles game and have some fond memories of it. That spider elevator section made me afraid of elevators for like a week. The one part I remember the most is on one of the castle towers you can throw an enemy off the top in just the right way. They go right through a hole in a lower tower and bounce like 4 times off the walls inside before sliding just outside the door. So if you follow their body quickly and down smash slide, you can see them bounce around and it looks like they landed at your feet because you end up in the same place. Also you better be good to my girl Yuko :p

[@redvelvetunderground]

lol that devil hunter yohko game was such a deep cut, i had no idea it even had a game. i rented a VHS of like two episodes from blockbuster when i was like 8 or 9 years old and it was very weirdly horny and when i looked it up years later as an adult it only got like a few episodes before fading into anime obscurity.

[@Andrew_TS]

I think it was probably successful for what it was. It doesn't seem to be a failed or canceled TV anime, but a series of OVAs (original video animation). Think of an anime version of the Direct-to-Video market that flourished during the height of the VHS era. The volumes had likely a higher budget than individual television episodes. I had a few volumes at my rental store. There were apparently 5 total volumes overall.

[@danielmccormick700]

Toys looked bad even in the magazine previews in the early 90s. It seems to have that old Atari-era Activision style of gameplay which also worked for "A Boy and his Blob" on the NES, which worked in the days of one-button joysticks and 4-kilobyte cartridges, but seemed outdated by 1990. It also suffered from (1) being an adaptation of a film that wanted to be a blockbuster, but ended up being a bomb, (2) that the film itself wasn't well-suited to become a game, and (3) that it couldn't use Robin Williams' likeness in the game at all. Bruce Willis' first post-Die Hard movie "Hudson Hawk" had all these problems too.

[@ShdwHg]

Yeah, I guess I'll be that guy who chimes in with an Absolute game they actually like. _Goofy's Hysterical History Tour_ isnt an especially *great* game, mind, but it is one I grew up with and have a lot of fondness for (like the time traveling setting - bonus points for being one of very few games to have an American Revolution era level - but also the Extend-O-Matic Hand is pretty fun to use in a _Bionic Commano_ kind of way), even as I have a lot I can criticize about it (brutally difficult; that Revolutionary War-era stage has a pirate ship level that is entirely on tiny wooden crates floating in instant-kill water that goes on for too long, and falling down in the following stage takes you right back to it!). Probably won't change your verdict, but eh, it's somethin' above their usual fare.

[@j.goggels9115]

I really like Shanghai III The Dragon's Eye _except for the Option Menus that look out of Windows 3.1_ They nailed the atmosphere, relegating the Master System Shanghai to the unsufferable underworld. It combines strategy and luck. Sometimes, as in real life, you simply cannot win and I like that. Activision owned the license, why not. In 2005, Shanghai came back on the Sega Naomi arcade board. This time, you have to rearrange the tiles within a time limit. Very arcady and nice overall with that shenmuesque soundtrack. Anyway, as a tribute to the Parlour Games genre, Shanghai III surprisingly features in my Top 50 Mega Drive games, together with Side Pocket by Data East and Theme Park by Bullfrog, three spots neither Dynamite Headdy nor Gunstar Heroes were graced with. I will fight you on this hill. It's all about bringing diversity to your Mega Drive library.

[@Kim_Justice]

I kinda get a kick out of drop down menus like that on consoles tbh, it's funny to me. And hey, I enjoy Shanghai II just fine. Probably spent way longer playing it there than I needed to for 10 seconds or so of footage...

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

Nothing can look better than Aladdin on the Mega Drive as far as Mega Drive Disney games go but Gargoyles looks good though. Fun Fact that wasn’t mentioned from Metal Fangs, Hiroshi Kawaguchi of OutRun fame did the music and he also did the music for Sword of Vermilion, Rent a Hero and Ninja Burai.

[@billcook4768]

In my circle of friends, the Genesis was sports console. That’s pretty much all we played on it.

[@blitzerblazinoah6838]

Spiritual Warfare by Wisdom Tree could definitely be considered a deep cut. More people know about it but disregard it, but a minor do actually enjoy it.

[@jessragan6714]

Oh yes, Curse was fittingly named indeed. I reviewed it years ago, stating "Pick a shooter on the Genesis. That shooter is better than Curse. So are the next five games you were going to mention. Hell, even Mike Ditka's Power Football is a better shooter than Curse."

[@zenksren8206]

Plot twist, the hole in that golf game is just a black spot someone painted there to fuck with you

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

Seeing Robin Williams' head associated with the word "hell" is quite a mood.

[@dezm101]

The one good Absolute game I can think of is 'Turn and Burn No Fly Zone" on SNES. I personally enjoyed Mamono Hunter Yoko, but I was also a fan of the anime as well (and Valis)

[@BenGoodsonModular]

I have never head of 'Generations Lost'. It looks great!

[@kohhna]

Towards the end Sega Pro used to carry a big mega review of all the 8-16 bit games and give a rating on each one Curse was the only one they gave 0% to.

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

Knew about Metal Fangs for a while because of the cast... let's just say those are some solid profile pics.

[@rabidrabbitshuggers]

It’s a shame Curse sucks because that cover art is beautiful.

[@cupofcustard]

Oh god that golf was something else. Did you stumble across the real life version of Lee Carvello's Putting Challenge? 🤣

[@jessragan6714]

It really is tragic how some of the best game designers from the Atari 2600 (Kitchen, Van Ryzen, Crane) were so hopeless on later consoles. Race Drivin' for the Super NES was made by the creator of HERO, to name one example. Also, I didn't care much for the Gargoyles video game, due in part because of the difficulty and the iffy control, but also because the writers blotted out the supported cast. Goliath is a free agent in the game, and only meets Eliza Masa at the end. What happened to Brooklyn, Lexington, Broadway, and Hudson? Why can't we play as any of them?

[@jamesbarker5535]

Goes away and uploads Gargoyles to his Mega Drive mini...

[@DeckerFI]

16:40 Metal Fabgs immediately reminded me of Nitro ob the Amiga. And that character screen, even more so.

[@stevieboyXI]

Oh lordy, that's a BIG wheel.

[@DesertRainReads]

Believe it or not, Gargoyles was also slated for an SNES release, as was Pocahontas. However, both were canceled for the system due to poor sales of the Genny versions. It would've been interesting to see them on the SNES, maybe someone found a near final build of these games, would love to see someone do a comparison.

[@SpaceKlown]

A snes version wouldn't of been as smooth without a chip, if you have a snes example please say.

[@zenksren8206]

Bubsy/Mohawk and Headphone Jack, both of which used a decompression algorithm to allow for ridiculously big levels and fast scrolling?

[@brassmonkey786]

Loving the twitch streams. Hilarity from yourself and chat

[@NightshadeX85]

Glad someone finally someone said this about Generations Lost. So little info on it. Bought it a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised. Almost hidden gem I'd say. Almost.

[@nintendianajones64]

No mention of the vastly superior Super Nintendo version of Gargoyles. Immediately closed the video.

[@davidspencer7254]

Absolute Entertainment, the Tynesoft of the 16bit era. 😂

[@blitzerblazinoah6838]

Actually that would be THQ.

[@BixRibene]

Tiny hopping vampire playing Ma Jong... Sign me up!

[@GeordiLaForgery]

The all mighty geezer, rather funny, understatement! Looking forward to playing Generations Lost cheers Kim.👍

[@TheMadAfrican1]

Toys The Movie may not be brilliant, but it is such an odd experience that it is worth watching.

[@SultanSamet]

Demon's Crest is one of the best games on the SNES and Gargoyles Quest for GB as well - maybe those Gargoyle creatures should get more games overall

[@mightyfilm]

You would think that Gargoyles would have at least been a more well known game through the cartoon's massive popularity with cartoon fans and 90's kids. It certainly sounds like it should at least be in the same regard as Capcom's Ducktales and Darkwing Duck games, but I keep forgetting such a game existed. Had it not been for the remaster, anyway. Saw the trailer for that and I just thought to myself, Oh yeah! That was a thing.

[@WanderlustZero]

I like to think of Generations Lost as next-Gen 'Sacred Armour of Antiriad'

[@wrena79]

Best thing about Curse by far = the box art.

[@LemonTree9280]

Really excited to buy the Gargoyles remake on the switch. Hope its great

[@devonwilliams5738]

I bought Generations Lost on a whim a month or so ago, thinking it was something else. I saw the cover and thought it was Techno Clash, glad to know that it's still really solid.

[@vyperii]

More please... Great look and some new games to try :)

[@GenghisConnThr333]

So a school girl with magic powers killing demons is nonsensical but a school boy dressing up as a spider and fighting criminals dressed up as animals isn't?

[@autobotstarscream765]

Because they're not demons, which is why he doesn't kill them. If he did fight a demon for some reason, that would be totally out there, and he might kill the demon! And if you saw what that demon did to that boy, you'd want to kill him, too. I guess Spider-Man and demons just don't mix...

[@theironfox2756]

He would need some alterations on his suit. Perhaps some sigils and wards as well as alchemically enhanced webs as to be able to protect himself and make contact with an extra dimensional entity.

[@opaljk4835]

I didn’t really hate Mamona Hunter Yoko (or whatever it’s actually called). At times it’s very frustrating, but I found parts of it to be pretty fun.

[@colinthomson7518]

brilliant video, I listen to Sega Mega Drive music and draw some pixel Art.

[@meh3247]

There's an odd Megadrive game I found by accident that I found to be quite unique and I'm not sure if you're aware of it, so - have you played The Ooze, yet?

[@euphorik3120]

i rented Generations Lost back when it was first released and cant remember if i beat it then but i did finish it later on and i like the ending. its been a fave of mine. it was very likely rushed due to one of the areas not being playable level but giving dialogue to further unlock the story. which is a good story IMO. the game needs to be like two more good levels longer but i would also like to see a sequel made.

[@JB9000x]

Curse looks pretty good i think! My favourite discoveries are Granada and Starflight

[@shaun1353]

Wow I have been totally asleep on Gargoyles. Never even seen footage before, it looks great

[@12Tecpatl]

awesome video, i'll check out some of these titles!

[@euphorik3120]

i love Virtual Pinball because making my own machines is addictive fun. i've made similar layouts of other pinball games and its nice fun trying to perfect the layout payability best i can. then i can place bets with my friends. 😁

[@adamlee7025]

Love your content did you play master of monsters yet found this game a year ago on a mega drive emulator got hooked for hours

[@jd213_]

Would be nice if Curse could be eaaily improved by a romhack or overclocking

[@Right_Said_Brett]

Toys is such a weird film. I feel very ambivalent about it; I kinda love it and hate it at the same time :/ I mostly like the film but it has an odd anti-videogame message at its hear; implying that toys from the past are brilliant and videogames are the corruption of youth. It's essentially Old Man Shouts At Cloud: The Movie. Still, it's superbly shot and full to the brim with an off kilter vibe. So, yeah... I simultaneously love and hate the film.

[@autobotstarscream765]

And we know Williams didn't hate video games because he named his daughter after Princess Zelda and did a Nintendo commercial before he died!

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@autobotstarscream765 Oh, for sure but Robin Williams didn't write the script or direct the movie.

[@PedroSilvahf]

The thing you said about sports games i would say about baseball and golf. Football and others i can see, but those two should not have that many. Specially baseball, a game that look the same everywhere.

[@BERSERKERDEMON1]

Robbin Williams commited suicide... putting him a "Hell" thing on the face is a bit nasty regarding his family...

[@goatbone]

I have only played the first level of Generations Lost. Think I will give it another look.

[@Mark-gb1cp]

When i was 10 and at the imported games market, i bought Toys for the SNES cos it was rare in the UK. I had a choice of the or Zelda 🤦‍♂️. I must be one of the very few people who finished the game- but wasnt worth it and never played it again once i finally completed it. Should probably be number 1 on the list!

[@Right_Said_Brett]

Haha! A hero named Geezer XD

[@davidlevy6418]

With all the "Hidden Gem" videos that have been done there only exists one hidden gem left. It's almost never mentioned and it's a great game. General Chaos.

[@codyguindon2090]

if I see a new Kim Justice, Im having a good day

[@pal-of-pals]

I would love to see you talk about this topic again.

[@neilthomas6042]

Not sure if I played Generations Lost, feels familiar.

[@BuzzaB77]

What a mission! How long have you been playing each for?

[@Kim_Justice]

Not usually that long as I want to try and get it done in a reasonable amount of time! Probably 10-15 mins on average.

[@kostyatszyu]

what was the scene with neil stuke you show at the end from?

[@kjd9634]

Great video mate.

[@dylan.t180]

Great list mate

[@findiand]

What is the wheel spin software that is used to select games?

[@euphorik3120]

Curse is kinda hard to describe for me. its gotta lot of kool graphics yet kinda not or lacking too. and yeah needs like 5 more good long stages and challenge adjusted. its got good elements but needs refined.

[@big_ry82]

Ha, Limmy in a Kim vid. Nice.

[@williamwright9079]

Thank you!

[@OllyDee123]

As far as I'm concerned Curse is a music album, not a game. You weren't actually supposed to play it! It's magnificent box art is also easily up there with the best of them.

[@dmabbers]

State of yer golf game, Chi-Chi!

[@Alianger]

Lion King is much better than Gargoyles though, c'mon Kim. Devil Hunter Yohko is pretty solid too, the jumping is similar to CV or Super Metroid/Lion King (IIRC two different settings depending on if you're moving or not, takes some getting used to I suppose but feels good when you do). Some nice there music as well.

[@zenksren8206]

Gargoyles is less impossible than Lion King which makes it better than default but neither game is anywhere near close to good

[@Alianger]

@@zenksren8206 That's a skill issue on your part

[@Stjurgeon]

9:02 Is that Sting?

[@nathanworthington4451]

Sega Mega Dwive

[@kailomonkey]

What was fallis? Phallis?

[@andrecondesso8057]

Valis. !?

[@kailomonkey]

thank you@@andrecondesso8057

[@theflyingninja1]

Sega Force magazine gave Curse 0%

[@saintsheepy6682]

Gargoyles and Generation Lost easily look like the best on here. The Mamono Hunter Yohko anime sounds like it's totally...well, not something I'd like (it sounds like it's a poor man's Cutey Honey even, and it was only a 6 episode OVA), even with legendary voice actress Aya Hisakawa voicing its protagonist, and the game equally looks as bad and cheap, especially with the graphics (Yohko oddly looks more like adult Chi Chi from the Dragon Ball franchise) and the music is out of key as the composers seemed to not know how to work the YM2612 chip. Even that awful Ultraman Mega Drive game looks better (and looking at the end when you beat it, all you get is a credits scroll, and then one lousy image of Yohko. Pathetic). 😵‍💫

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

21:35 looks like a whole game of NES's ninja turtles seaweed level. 🤨 I almost like it but nah, i hate it. 😏

[@mmpsp693]

Wait, did you already play them all?

[@Kim_Justice]

Not yet. I'm halfway through :)

[@neinjunge5560]

29:28 is this Abe's Oddysee or what...?

[@fandangobrandango7864]

Looks more like Flashback, which came out before Abe's

[@neinjunge5560]

@@fandangobrandango7864 I was mainly referring to the sounds

[@eldraque4556]

nice one

[@euphorik3120]

informative 🤔

[@snorlaxtreflip]

I’ve always enjoyed curse lol it’s very unbalanced

[@Mentally_Ill_Simp]

Back to the old intro, eh?

[@VBrancoPT]

And then you have the so called "hidden gems". Have you thought about making vídeos on those?

[@nintendianajones64]

No mention of the vastly superior version of Gargoyles for the Super Nintendo. Immediately stopped watching.

[@twankistevenson3884]

Another good 'un

[@BigLenny.]

Do you ever get up from your chair to move around?🤕

[@codykeller6400]

Do you ever do something to improve your own life, or do you just say dumb shit in comments sections? Get fkd Lenny