Kimono Underwear!! In History and Today

[@michellecornum5856]

I have to laugh. I have often said that, in fashion history, it looks like we decided to wear our grandmothers' underwear as dresses. Very interesting.

Hi! Quick note about "gibão", the portuguese "coat" (sort of) that the japanese took as a model for "juban". (I'm portuguese.) The "gibão" could have detached sleeves or no sleeves at all and the torso opening in the front would be pinned or decorated but remain pretty much "open" (up until the XIX century the front opening of garments was usually pinned everyday or buttons could also be used). The "gibão" was also only used by upper class and was decorated or made with a smoth fabric, meaning the design (and name) was connected with "beeing of a high cast/ noble", something that might have passed into the japanese too. And, Billy, I love your content, thanks!

[@BillyMatsunaga]

So interesting!! Thank you!!

[@vascomanata]

Não sabia disso! Muito interessante mesmo ahah

[@kristynaplihalova]

That is so interesting! In Czech we use a word župan. It's pronounced exactly like juban. It is basically bathrobe. Which is interesting, because the construction of bathrobe loosely resembles kimono.

[@habituscraeftig]

Gilbão (in Spanish, jubón) is in turn derived from an Arabic term for an open robe.

[@cnscaevola]

I love it when people borrow clothes styles from each other and make it their own. Learning about how normal people wore clothes also makes me so happy! Thank you!

[@lonnihurst7945]

Very informative! I'm seeking to make an authentic ensemble for an accurate reproduction of an antique German-made doll. Most dolls produced were Caucasian, but this was a rarer Asian-model doll produced in Thuringia in the late 1800s. I'm using your videos to guide the costume project planning for this 19" bisque head doll. She would be a child of, I believe, Meiji-era Japan, when many European influences are said to have appeared alongside traditional Japanese dress. (I read that some women of the period began wearing Victorian pantaloons under their kimonos! I have even found pantaloons still being sold online today for this purpose, on some sites. Interesting!) I think my doll, Mari, is going to have pantaloons under her kimono. I think, because of her era of make and because these Asian dolls were European-made, it would be appropriate. And besides, I just love pantaloons! But for the rest of her outfit, I will try to learn from your videos. I have no prior knowledge of kimono. Thank you so much for these wonderful lessons!

[@BookCat18]

Such a saucy thumbnail! Great video, thanks for the work you put in to sharing kimono around the 🌎

[@tessakirkpatrick817]

Thank you Billy, l am loving your videos, your voice is calm and joyful, content clear and knowledgeable. I am in the process of making my first kimono. Started out making it with a lining and really not enough fabric so not traditional but loving the learning through doing the making. This is the jewel of the opportunity of lockdown for me in UK x🤸

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Wow!! I hope you’ll share some pictures somewhere when your kimono is finished ❤️❤️

[@maganw42]

There are so many layers! Fashion history is always fun. Thank you for noting the types of fibres that people wear. I may have to make a hemp hadajuban for summer.

[@MingSantos]

I love fashion history and this video is perfect! :)

[@kandiblick3822]

Your channel has just become my favorite! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@chocolat262]

A really needed video, thank you really much. You're always so helpful (and your voice so calming/relaxing).

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Oh wow! It’s probably the first time in my life someone tells my voice would be relaxing 😱😱❤️

[@maganw42]

@@BillyMatsunaga I concur! Your voice is relaxing.

[@kathryncoelho2249]

Learning more and more on this channel every day!! Thank you !!

[@yasminaraks]

Great video! Thank you! I need to dig my old undergarments out and give chakusō a try again. I’ve had 2 kids since the last time I had a lesson, so I hope everything fits ok and might have to augment my padding😅

[@Scr1pta_]

This was handy for character design tbh

[@habituscraeftig]

Western clothing follows a similar pattern with shirts (like shifts) originally functioning as underwear (including being the garment protecting the private parts). The acceptance of shirts as outerwear doesn't really happen until the 20th century. A man with only a shirt and waistcoat in 19th century was still considered 'in nudus'.

[@ragnkja]

This is also why loose shirttails were considered so uncouth: not only was the underwear on show, it also implied that there was nothing protecting the breeches and groin from each other!

[@felichia808]

Love your videos! Much Aloha from Hawaii 💖!

[@gabriellavines7691]

I just found your channel and have been watching kimono videos all day. This is so interesting. I hope to make a very formal, Ancient styled, multi-layered kimono to display in my bedroom. I am learning so much from you already. I will have to watch this video many times. Thank you for all the great content. I hope your KZbin channel does very well.

[@annamae1519]

Dear Billy, loved your presentation and learned a lot! One question remains, what would women (traditionally) wear in terms of menstruation? Something like Fundoshi perhaps?

[@gramsmith1366]

Just discovered this site...thanks, so interesting

[@Ministeps33]

thats the video i ve looked for very long

[@misatopt]

Hello! I'm Portuguese, and I had no idea the word Juban comes from Gibão! But gibão is outer wear, it's a "doublet" in English. So, everything goes full circle! 🤩 Thank you for teaching us this!

[@misatopt]

ah, and it's pronounced pretty much like juban 😉

[@kennethquesenberry2610]

Isn't a singlet what you wear under a doublet?

[@misatopt]

@@kennethquesenberry2610 I have no idea, English isn't my native language.

[@kennethquesenberry2610]

@@misatopt It's a pun, lifted from a comedy routine by the English duo Flanders and Swann, from several years ago. In British English, a singlet is a man's sleeveless undershirt. And by the way, I'm not a native English speaker, either. I'm American. I've been to the U.K. and we definitely do not speak the same language. Close but not quite close enough to always understand. Rather like Spanish and Portuguese.

[@misatopt]

@@kennethquesenberry2610 nope. Spanish and Portuguese are two entirely different languages, that sprout from the same Latin root. but you could compare British English/American English with Portuguese from Portugal and from Brasil or other Portuguese speaking African countries. the same language, but different variants.

[@davriecaro3036]

May I ask in regards to what would have been considered as women's clothing back in history (specifixally the eras /centuries before the 21st century), how does the sarashi fall under those layers? As well as based on your's or other people you know, what are they like to wear under kimono? Since I have heard that one of their uses was to act as a way to support and/or bind the bust. Finaly may I ask, when was the garment now more commonly known as a "Kimono bra" introduced and was then widely worn instead of the sarashi?

[@salaokabe]

very nice topic and thank you for sharing your knowledge in English

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Thank you for the comment, Sala ❤️

[@mrsthe97]

Fascinating history! Thank you.

[@jennawhitecloud5680]

i realy really like this video. It would be great to have even more pictures to illustrate what you are talking about. Thanks

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Unfortunately not a lot of pictures of undergarments do exist. I’ve already clashed all pictures into here that showed specific undergarments the best.

[@valetroncoso2690]

muchas gracias por hacer videos, aprendo muchísimo y ejercito mi ingles y japonés! saludos desde argentina!

[@kakumee]

Qujanarrusaq (kalaallisut Greenlandic for thank you very much)!! Iv been waiting for this video for many years!! 🇬🇱🇺🇸❤️🇯🇵

[@Elena-lo1wy]

I am always fascinated by history and this one is just great. I wonder 💭 what kimonos would be when I’m old. I mean really old.

[@BillyMatsunaga]

I’m thinking about that, too!! Looking forward to what Kimono will turn into.

[@luciateoharie9953]

Great video as always.... And it also left me with a question ( maybe silly) : what exactly did you mean when you specified : only the upper part of the body? You mean it would have the length of a regular t-shirt or would cover the whole body, only the legs out? Thank you 🤗

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Same length as a hanjuban.

[@mmardh799]

thank you! it's really interesting.

[@Piggypotpie]

Hello!! I Love your video!! It Was very fascinating, and it was really fun to watch!! I Will Definitely watch this again!! Also, where can you find a one piece hadajuban/susoyoke at an affordable price?

[@nightfriend4330]

That's so interesting! But what would you wear under a furisode? A nagajuban just with longer sleeves?

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Exactly 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJXXm4dnbtyHabs

[@danieladownie6087]

Awesome

[@aalaelsadig9368]

Honestly, I'm more curious about breast support. My understanding is that today one might use some padding for breast support, but how was it done historically? Or was it not a thing?

[@BillyMatsunaga]

There's not such a thing. If (!!) it would had been part of this video ;)

[@BillyMatsunaga]

And no, padding is no breast support. That’s just for the silhouette. The obi is holding your chest up.

[@aalaelsadig9368]

@@BillyMatsunaga Oooooh! Ok, that makes way more sense! Thanks!

[@amaz6884]

Very interesting but now I have a question... Dônuki is a shitagi ? Or is it something different ?

[@jenleigh4212]

Very interesting video! I learned quite a bit ^ ^

[@melodyvonderpfalz4289]

Hi, I do make cosplay and try to be more historic as much as possible, up to the underwear. your videos are very informative and interessting. One of the problem of not understanding a lot of sources is quite annoying. So thank you to let us in inside the culture. The other problem as a cosplayer are most likely to good assets at the top (European H). I´m still experimenting on what to actually am able to wear.... The Doudou was a huge fail. There was no chest support and forming. The Datemaki was a half success with holding 3h of wearing it. I took your mesurements. I might experiment with a Datemaki that starts at 30 cm withs and is 5m long and ends with the normal 10 cm withs. Do you have any suggestions? Historic or more Modern ones.

[@machine3589]

When were tabi invented?

[@kenzihenderson5258]

So with a modern day Yukata, what undergarments if any are common for women? Layering in the heat of the summer could get warm quickly so could you also say what the material typically is for both the undergarment and modern Yukata?

[@em_zone]

I love! This video!

[@nerl7473]

What is the apron shaped undergarment seen in Chihiros Wonderland? I have also seen similar looking things peeking out of the collars of kimono fusion outfits worn by Wagakki Band.

[@BillyMatsunaga]

It’s called “haragake” and was won’t by workers and kids. It’s not necessarily an undergarment.

[@nerl7473]

@@BillyMatsunagaMy apolagiesthe the film is called "Spirited Away" in English. Everything that comes up for Haragake seems to have different straps than what they are wearing. You can Google for "Spirited Away bun scene" to see the garments I was asking about.

[@ChalilodimunAngel]

But… why silk for an underwear? Isn't it impractical? You couldn't "washed it"… no?

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Well... it was only the upper class who could do this. So less then 3% of the population.

[@TalassiaKardashian]

Im the only one that can't stop seeing that awesome earrings?? 🥺🥺🥺❤❤

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Aren’t they?? Found them in a stir for handmade accessories in Kumamoto 😊

[@rebekahlarsen7691]

I was actually trying to learn about this, but Google wasn't helpful

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Yeah, it was also extremely hard to find books for this. The research for this took over a year.

[@BillyMatsunaga]

Yeah, it was also extremely hard to find books for this. The research for this took over a year.

[@almadeckard8360]

Celebrate This Day! Sunday is Valentines' or Saint Valentine of Rome, or the Lunar New Year. Celebrate the family tonight, lite a candle, a flashlight, a torch, or even a sparkler this evening as an act of Celebration. If it is a candle, place it in the front window away from the curtains. If you have a flashlight, torch, or sparkler, go outside for safety. Think of the wonder of this 2021 Winter rare cold. Then come inside have a cup of something warm to drink. With the beginnings of a couple, the parents that came before and the future of the children. Celebrate your past families, the family you have now, and the family you will have in the future. Seek for joy!

[@MariaMartinez-xm4fl]

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[@KimonoFashion]

This is so interesting! I really thought that women also wore fundoshi as a undergarment. And the fact that we wear something that used to be a undergarment reminds me a video of Karolina Zebrowska ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmTUi3qklql_ncU )

[@BillyMatsunaga]

I was also convinced that women wore fundoshi, too. Although I’m still not sure, if really all women didn’t wear fundoshi. I’m pretty sure there were some exceptions.

[@GO01]

You'd think they would be useful when women were on their period. A video on the history of period products in Japan would be cool!

[@北海の乞食]

着物

[@wigglypaw]

hi Billy. Can I wear underpants and a bra?