King Crimson - Red (Drums and Bass only)

[@Scringus]

"Fuck this shit you can guys record the album by yourselves" -Robert Fripp

[@imsorryformystupidity2814]

U.K. in a nutshell.

[@tomasvanecek8626]

Yeah... and if they did - I ´d be happily listening to it from then till this day ;) First heard Red in 1974.... so you understand..

[@Esotereclectic]

Fripp pretty much all but said that when he decided to "withhold my opinion" when rehearsing for and recording this album, and let the other two make the musical decisions.

[@kw19193]

One reason why "Red" is close to being the best K C album in terms of it's production values. The sound is open, spacious, and evenly distributed, you can hear everything on this recording which must have pleased Bruford especially. His bass drum and hi-hat are actually up in the mix and are clearly distinguishable throughout. With their re-issue of the album some years back Fripp and Wilson (was it Wilson?) ruined this, re-producing the album in effect giving it more of the standard Fripp sound - everything compressed and seemingly distant with, no surprise here, Bruford suffering the most. Cheers!

[@aakkoin]

Literally me -Fripp

[@jevinday]

Ahh, i knew the bass tab i was looking at was wrong. I'm going to trust my ear from now on

[@duncan-rmi]

trust your ear. this is fake. bass sounds more like justin chancellor than JW, & the drums could be anyone, but not billy b.

[@alanrowland6971]

Fucking mind blowing, to think this is nearly 50 years old 🤔🤪 The subtle intensity of the late great , Mr versatility in demand 70's Bassist Mr. John Wetton and the melodic cross pattern shifting sand rhythms of the most elegant prog drums ever committed to vinyl from Mr unique Mr Bill Bruford.

[@Lyktwz]

Simply WOW

[@pepperguy]

Amazing! Any chance you can do the same for "Lament" from Starless and Bible Black?

[@PierreGarrabrant]

Lament is a masterpiece

[@tomasvanecek8626]

Fripp never had better players than John and Bill... Red was his masterpiece, just because or them... also - The Great Deceiver kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXilqXyZpL90iZI

[@cnotliwyy]

man... frip is the writer of this song. you know that? in fact, red is a only song with a single writer in whole album.

[@tomasvanecek8626]

@@cnotliwyy Eh.. you understood nothing, read again.. I know all about KC, and there was no frip

[@tommyrawlings3046]

Fripp said Wetton was the best musician he ever played with

[@marcoaurelio2639]

Efing awesome!

[@worldnotworld]

Huge

[@craigdamage]

How...why Fripp with zero warning just pulled the plug on his best Crimson lineup only after two years is an utter mystery. They should have at the very least finished out the 70s with a couple more records. Fripp's solo work was certainly good but nowhere near as awesome as his finest Crimson roster.

[@Yarsh52]

In the official King Crimson biography, they get more into Robert Fripp’s reasoning. He was becoming increasingly weary, namely spiritually, with the music industry and the band itself. Robert Fripp found it difficult working with Bill Bruford and John Wetton said he planned on giving the band another year to see where things went. Robert Fripp was worried John Wetton would move on if King Crimson did not achieve success, which added up to disbanding. It is truly lamentable because King Crimson were on the verge of breakout success and the presence of Ian McDonald on Red could have led to even more incredible musical possibilities for King Crimson. Alas, it was not meant to be…

[@KingCrimson82]

@@Yarsh52 you should also mention that wetton never got over it and that it played a factor in his heavy drinking problem. "not ment to be" is clearly not really the case because this record prooves otherwise ? and it became the standard by which any folllow up release was measured and still isn't beaten. Same goes for any attempt of playing this song 1980-today

[@Yarsh52]

@@KingCrimson82 Right. John Wetton admitted years later how King Crimson is the band he could have stayed in forever. “Not meant to be” is referring to the fact King Crimson did not remain a band leading up to and immediately following the release of Red. By the time the album came out, the band already dissolved. If it had not, we could have seen arguably the greatest line up of the band yet- Robert Fripp, John Wetton, Bill Bruford and Ian McDonald. I agree with your assessment- while I do appreciate everything that came after, this era of King Crimson is difficult to beat.

[@Some_Cat_]

Fripp didn't want the band to fall into the trappings of success (in the conventional sense of the word). Because King Crimson is a way of doing things, it has to function according to its own rules rather than the rules of the industry. It's painful for those involved but nessasary. Sure, Fripp could have warned Wetton and Buford that things might play out the way they did, but had he done that, they probably would have immediately quit. A rock and a hard place.

[@topsecret1837]

I think if they hadn’t thought of firing Cross in the days before recording red it would’ve been even better

[@nodekoo]

I never did know that this song has double bass lines!

[@paulnuccio3114]

Sounds like Wetton is double tracking his bass, playing two separate parts during the intro and playing octaves in the interlude?

[@aakkoin]

Who is your favorite duo, and why is it Bruford & Wetton??

[@AP-sd1fl]

After listening to this, does anyone still dare to claim that there is a cello in Red - it's a bass!

[@trevor.c2112]

There is, it's just playing in harmony with Wetton's bass

[@kidflersh7807]

There is a cello bro, it wetton's bass is just louder.

[@jacobtapianieto9655]

I can hear a double bass too.

[@gabriele8019]

Are u sure this is the original take? Drums sounds so different, listen at the snare

[@lavisseregis830]

Probably demo version I guess. We can feel the tempo is not as stable as in the record version. There are 2 bass parts also. Great to listen to this take anyway !

[@tomasvanecek8626]

Definitely it is. You just dont know the album for 46 years like I do. Ingrained...

[@tomasvanecek8626]

@@lavisseregis830 There were no demos - for who ? it was King Crimson for Christs sake :) And Red was recorded in a haste.... The tempo is Bill Bruford stable.. he never ever faltered, that much you should know..

[@ripadblock]

​@@tomasvanecek8626I have trouble trying To figure out if your comment is satire or not lmao.

[@tomasvanecek8626]

@@ripadblock To be really honest... After listening to this over and over.. I am not sure about the true provenance of this.. but why would there be some hacks trying to recreate the real thing ? Why would they waste the time while knowing not being up to it.. this is not a garage band stuff .. Bill B. - YOU tell me 🤗

[@Raelspark]

I think this is a flatted fifth song with starts in B flat.

[@francodeledda6873]

Secondo voi, Wetton qui suona con il plettro oppure no?

[@danielcrescini113]

Mi sembra di sì, anche se è difficile capirlo per la distorsione, comunque in live la suonava sia con che senza

[@francodeledda6873]

@@danielcrescini113 grazie...ciao.

[@thekivster]

Where is this recording taken from?

[@francismartinetti2229]

this is not Bill and john, that's sur !!!

[@和泉あや]

^ ^👍

[@mattfuller7364]

Ya. this isn't KC. Nice try..I guess.

[@LoFortunato]

Sounds like red to me, it's either a recreation or just the raw sound (it really sounds similar)

[@huzzism]

What the hell is this?

[@christopherbrennan-lx9hd]

Something does Not sound right for Bruford that ,s for dang sure!

[@unknown6390]

This video wasnt made to trick you pinheads

[@srb99100]

Not real

[@WolfhandsYouTube]

This is NOT John Wetton and Bull Bruford, do not believe it..... lame, fake recreation. Change the damned video title, because you're misleading people.

[@duncan-rmi]

not wetton- too picky, & not at all aggressive enough. the fuzz is wrong. & anyone who's heard ANYTHING bruford played on in the 70s, before he bought the plastic suitcases from dave simmons..... even the 'absolute elsewhere' album or his stints with genesis & gong.... where's the starter-pistol snare? this is faker than charles & di's marriage. even AI could do better.