Now that's why he's called VolksWIZARD peeps. Well done young Andrew, I found it really interesting and looking forward to the remainder of the '45' series.👍
@VVH19973 жыл бұрын
I really love mine, ive done about 40k miles in it and still enjoy it so much. Bit of tweaking makes it even more fun
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
40k in a Clubsport S? REEPECT 🙌
@obsessedcloset26383 жыл бұрын
I am on my second Clubsport S’s. Currently own a tornado red car with AC. Prices seam to be on the up and up. Red being the rarest colour and the best looking. Great video btw. 👍 27 tornado red 58 black 65 white.
@kentowers28022 жыл бұрын
I owned a tornado red #237. Sensational car to drive and fantastic looking.
@GTI_CHHA3 жыл бұрын
Great new series, this is one of the videos I have enjoyed the most so far. The Mk7 GTI CS-S is a truly special car. I am reminded of it every day in my Mk7 GTI PP, as I fitted the CS-S mid and rear mufflers, which is such a huge improvement over the stock rubbish exhaust. Cheers mate
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
@rockerwilson3 жыл бұрын
I've done the exact same thing, SO much better!
@benhill24543 жыл бұрын
I have a Mk7 GTI PP and am interested in better sound. Where did you get the mid and rear mufflers? Suspension-wise, I want to keep the standard height but find there’s knocking at the rear so will look at new shocks.
@GTI_CHHA3 жыл бұрын
@@benhill2454 Hi, I got all my parts here: shop.ahw-shop.de/ They are unbeatable in price and shipping speed/service. It's best to get both MSD and ESD mufflers as they were designed to work together. So better (deeper and louder) without adding drone, with stock set-up. If you change the downpipe, you might get some drone at highway speeds. The rear knocking - also have it on my 2013 GTI PP - is a very common problem for cars from 2013-2014, VW would replace them if you complained. My advice, don't bother to replace with VW new ones, just get a set of Bilsteins B6 (200 euro for 2) and you will have a better handling and more quiet car..
@j99bgr Жыл бұрын
Watched this video so many times, the best one you've ever done. Deserves so many more views. My favourite car VW have ever made, a great story and as you said, we're very lucky to even get this car. So, so special and I just love everything about it!
@billx42663 жыл бұрын
Nice video but you have to admit it, this looks way better then the mk8... I have also a manual clubsport, 3 doors. its gonna be my last gti because i cannot get used to the mk8.....
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
It does look good but it's also starting to look a bit old. A lot of people have said they don't like Mk8 but time and some decent spec examples have slowly but surely made them warm to them, hopefully you will too👍
@MKI4EVA3 жыл бұрын
the honest reaction at the end is best. it is a great car isn't it.......hope they do a special with the MK8 GTI on par with that car.
@brianbasta2933 жыл бұрын
Two and a half yrs ago i bought my R, the dealer had a club sport S for sale too 10k on the clock, i said to him i would probably never again get the chance to drive one, so he very kindly let me take it out for drive, simply awesome! I loved it, it took me straight back to driving a mk1 gti but on steroids so quick. Do i wish i had bought it? As a daily for me the R was a little more practical. I still have a little vid of me driving it that the wife took i hasten to add, when she calmed down enough to hold my phone Lol. Well i do really wish now i had 😔.
@garysimpson39003 жыл бұрын
The second car I ever bought in 1985 was a Mk1 Golf GTI 1.8 registered in May 1983. Looking at pictures of it I so wish I had kept it but of course at the time you want something "better" and at the time I could never afford to have kept it & bought something else. I hope you will cover that model. Looking on the DVLA site it's tax expired in 2005 so lasting 21 years is testament to VW build quality.
@Julia-xz7vb2 жыл бұрын
just watched this video again after looking it up to send to someone else- it really is a brilliant video (and car obv) 👍
@kristijancoric3604 Жыл бұрын
9 more years and I can import one of these to Canukistan. But by then these babies will be worth your weight in gold. I adore this car.😊
@MrMedven3 жыл бұрын
This is the GTI. Wanted at least Clubsport, but had to settle with GTD. Thanks for this great content. Love your style, calmness and of course VWs.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video (and my style!) Tomislav. There is a bit of Clubsport S even in your GTD so enjoy it!
@ThomasHarrisonLord3 жыл бұрын
That was superb, thank you - looking forward to the next video in the series!
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Thomas!
@kentowers28022 жыл бұрын
I owned #237 - definitely a special car. Much more than the sum of its parts. Have owned a cupra 290 and 7.5GTI since and the CSS is another league though basically the same car. Feel the same about mine - totally understand why you sold yours and why you maybe regret it. I sold it as I was too precious over it and felt I couldn’t enjoy it to its full in fear of devaluing it. Really was epic to drive. Loved the noise, the driving position and the way it went down a B road.
@gerardcahill39243 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the MK8 Clubsport has met its match
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
It has but it's just so impractical, it's rivals are really 2 seat sports cars, not hatchbacks and that is a much harder battle to win
@olnaj3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the rest of these videos.
@cynicalmanc3 жыл бұрын
Another great video just makes me wish I'd kept my 17 plate Clubsport Edition 40 3 door the only car I've ever owned I regret selling. Probably still worth today what I sold it for?
@thamilawrence84683 жыл бұрын
I am privileged to have driven this car no. 387 here in South Africa one belonging to my friend. I have seen it in action and my word what a car. I would never have known how brilliant it is had it not been for the practical experience of it. What a machine.👌
@Zero_Ninety3 жыл бұрын
The fact that VW will never make a car like this again makes me sad in my heart.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they will but the signs are not good
@Julia-xz7vb3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@michaelglisson82403 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Man you guys and gals in Europe are so freaking lucky to get such totally awesome cars like that! We only get the sanitized versions with comfortable dampers and non-comfortable leather seats. We have to make our own versions here in the US. Great in theory, but mostly worthless as resealable cars anyone wants. Really hoping the Golf R Mk8 is as good as I've heard. So looking forward to test driving the GTI and R. Be safe and have fun doing it driving!
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael, are you getting the GTI as well as the R over there?
@michaelglisson82403 жыл бұрын
We are getting both the GTI and R. VW USA haven't entered configuration yet, but to my knowledge, no Clubsport. Both will have manual or DSG option choice. R is supposed to be spec'd comparable to European counterparts, but we may not get cloth seats, just leather. Be safe!
@samk96613 жыл бұрын
Great review - love the sound! My GTI 7.5 manual sounds crap in comparison. Interested if you think it’s as responsive into the corners as your MK8? Obviously the weight differences factor but is the steering as tuned in or do you still feel planted with as much grip?
@SChapps3 жыл бұрын
Always really wanted one of these, those black wheels need changing to silver though!
@kamrankhan-lj1ng3 жыл бұрын
Black wheels seem the worst. Any colour can do but black.
@London-united-kingdom3 жыл бұрын
Amazing car I just think for a road/track car the TCR I prefer and maybe be doing a Stage 3 conversion to approx 500 bhp ,but would love the clubsport s seats on my TCR
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
The lack of weight really is important, more so that power. It's pretty much undriveable in the wet as it is with 310 PS. I'd strip the back seats etc out of a TCR, keep the cruise and parking sensors and as you say get some bucket seats and sticky tyres - sorted.
@London-united-kingdom3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard it’s a 380hp at the moment I’ve got Michelin PS4’s tyres all round Motec ultralight wheels seems to grip well till now and Tuner said would be able to tune it by gear so low boost in 1and 2nd gear and up the boost in the rest of the gears will see if it happens I’ll let you know 👍 definitely them seats they just sooooo expensive it’s crazy
@simonturner2867 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, how would this car compare to the latest clubsport?
@liam50643 жыл бұрын
Great video,Love this car 😍
@andrewmcivor423 жыл бұрын
The ultimate weekend fun car! Totally impractical but totally fun - who needs a sporty coupé! Great video 👍
@markwatson41063 жыл бұрын
Great great video. 👍
@jayburrell3 жыл бұрын
Great video wow !looking forward to the rest of the series 👍
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay! 👍
@danl42523 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the series. I’m looking at getting my first ‘proper’ hot hatch in the next year or two. really like the look of the 6C Polo GTI. like the LED headlights and 3 door option. But undecided weather id rather bite the bullet and go for a Golf with an independent suspension set up. Haven driven a newer Polo, they handle better than my MK4 Golf. But that being said, I know that independent setup is just better
@simonupex26283 жыл бұрын
You were quite emotional at the end there Andrew, perhaps regretting selling your clubsport S now after a couple of years (the one that got away ).
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Just a bit but right now I’m saving to move again so it’d have to go if I still had it
@986am3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Andrew - I’ve got CSS 221 (White / AC) superb fun machine, love driving it (I came from a MK 7R - APR stage 1 - 3 dr - DSG) CSS is so much better to “drive”..... it’s even used with 27,000 miles on it - I did post on the gti forum to update the register post. Drive safe 🏁
@agood12803 жыл бұрын
I love the video can’t wait to see the next GTi cars that you cover over the coming weeks I feel like I need to change my TCR for a clubsport s sound amazing and that manual gearbox Something they missed out and with the club sport mark 8
@speedmaster50053 жыл бұрын
Stick with the TCR mate. You’ll regret selling that.
@agood12803 жыл бұрын
@@speedmaster5005 Yeah still love the TCR myself was with that manual gearbox I think that’s what the TCR really misses Really love it every time I drive it it’s just as if it was the first drive And really difficult to beat its locks Do you have a TCR yourself
@Julia-xz7vb2 жыл бұрын
TCR and CSS = perfect 2 car garage !
@crocoman7763 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Never actually realised how rare they were/are.
@Pete7.5R3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you feeling the love for the manual gearbox 😍 so glad I resisted going down the mk8 route and decided to keep my manual 7.5R (and 3 door to boot). . . although my first love is GTI (don’t tell the missus), so would definitely be tempted if the right spec Edition 40 came along (3 door manual of course) 😎
@mxdavies3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. My TCR would beat it 😁
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
TCR would win in the contest to carry 2 or more passengers or speed of parking in a tight space. Aside from that you've got no chance :)
@chrisjd19843 жыл бұрын
I drive an r but loved this vid mate lovely car well presented
@d.kashani3 жыл бұрын
best car in the world to me i love it
@reds0053 жыл бұрын
Loved this Andrew, very interesting. Surely VW must be tempted to do a MK8 Clubsport 'S'!
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks reds! I am not sure they have the wish to do anything so niche now, the lap record is pretty quick now having been set by a very expensive and trick Renault. Having said that £50k Golf R doesn't cause much chatter these days so a £50k Clubsport S Mk8 might make sense. We've still got a lot of time ahead with Mk8 on sale so who knows what's to come. If nothing at least the cars we can all buy in unlimited quantities are dynamically the best they've ever been thanks to lessons learned with Clubsport S
@Chris_gti7.53 жыл бұрын
Fantastic looking car 😍 great video really enjoyed it
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Chris
@PedroPereira-vg9xz3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, you got to me from minute 24: 25 seconds. Share your enthusiasm for this special model, it’s a masterpiece. 👏
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Pedro! Didn't you have a Mk3 Anniversary?
@PedroPereira-vg9xz3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, no, I have a MK4 Gti anniversary and a gorgeous version of this stunning CSS.
@mxm57833 жыл бұрын
Great video! Alas, we never got the Clubsport in the US.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
That's a shame!
@mrstanhope15163 жыл бұрын
Looks really nice in white with the black wheels. Considering how expensive these are could you modify a standard car with some of the special parts? Would imagine the bucket seats go for silly money but brakes and front uprights surely not too expensive?
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Fair point, you can spec a Clubsport Ed40 to be close with DCC, buckets, Pretoria wheels and Cup2, even can be a 3 door manual. Then you need the brake discs (around £400), the knuckles (£?), the engine mapping for power and exhaust popping. I'd leave the seats in and delete spare wheel and boot floor, sound proofing pad. But then aluminium subframe, easily got off ebay from a scrapped A3 but quite a job to swap. There are a few minor detail changes too like brake system calibration but CS Ed40 may get that too. Definitely worth tweaking a Clubsport but I'd want it mapped 100% the same, especially as engine code is identical
@xeon48883 жыл бұрын
Thought this was a brilliant video. Frankly, one of your best. BTW you're the reason I bought a 2020 7.5 GTI. And I LOVE it.
@sparkford043 жыл бұрын
Andrew, Great,love it. Thanks
@jonathonbrett-qn1ic6 ай бұрын
The bestGTI ever
@bird-dog813 жыл бұрын
What a gti ! Would love one of these but the price in the market is crazy. 🤪 gonna be a future classic. What will the price be for a mint condition 20 years from now. 🤔
@wrashid893 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Andrew! How much are these worth in today’s market?
@wrashid893 жыл бұрын
Ignore, of course you answered it in the video already! Crazy money :)
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
I think there is a £50k one on eBay 😟
@wrashid893 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard 🤯
@MKI4EVA3 жыл бұрын
Would be amazing if you could do a side by side comparo with the FK8 TypeR.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
They might challenge for the record but as road cars they are quite different. It’s hard to ignore the impracticality of a CSS and yet it looks really plain compared to Civic Type R. I suppose a good test would be simply based on thrills but really hard to delve too deeply on the road as you really need to be going very fast to make them come alive
@obsessedcloset26383 жыл бұрын
Oh and I thought the “18 wheels were called Belvedere?
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
VW called them Quaranta for Clubsport (see brochure link below) and Belvedere for TCR. I am not 100% sure they are 100% identical so stuck with the correct name for the model www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/golf-gte-vii-pricelist.pdf
@NoName-st6zc3 жыл бұрын
24:00 You can really tell by the way you're speaking and looking that this was a moment where you'd really like to punch yourself for selling your Clubsport S, understandably. I can imagine the answer to that question already but if you could go back in time, would you still sell the car?
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
I made a decision based on the fact that unless you really drive the Clubsport S, a GTI Performance will do the same job without the CSS's compromises. Problem I had was that I have 1 day off per week which is inevitably spent with my other half and it's not sensible to push this car's limits with a passenger on board and unlike say, an R8, it doesn't feel special when not pushed, it's just another Golf then which I get to see a lot during my six day working week. It would have been nice to have been able to afford to just keep it and not think to much about it and buy other cars to enjoy but I was moving house so luxuries like that have to go. It was on sale in early 2020 at VW and they couldn't shift it, I'd just moved house so was skint then and new owner won't sell it. It's missing its unique number now which is odd but it went through 2 dealers before it sold so lots of opportunity for things to go missing.
@NoName-st6zc3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard I'm following your videos since quite some time and of course i understood your reasoning behind selling the Clubsport S, no worries. Still kinda wondering whether you would have pushed yourself more towards keeping it.
@yomismo13683 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
@D3GamingTV Жыл бұрын
My man it's celebratin 40y of gti..
@BradyT903 жыл бұрын
for me best GTI 4ever
@leemace96383 жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome awesome 👍👍🇦🇺
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@butchmeister803 жыл бұрын
Great vid as you say to pay all that for a car with v little extras best off with tcr for daily use. Edit. And it sounds amazing love my manual mk7 gti
@AudioAdviceGroup3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant in depth reviews - love your videos. Really helped me when I bought my Ed40 Clubsport..... look forward to every one you do. Keep up the good work
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Iain 👍
@964tractorboy3 жыл бұрын
A really great walk through the history of the Clubsport S. Some very memorable silences too. Well done for holding it all together!
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! A bit of emotion is no bad thing I guess, luckily it's just a car :)
@Birmingham_racing Жыл бұрын
This or a boxer since it's only got 2 seats?
@jamesonezsin.silver66853 жыл бұрын
Amazing car. I keep look out for an edition 40 in the same spec as mine
@chalikuddin5700 Жыл бұрын
Hi please can you do a review on new vw polo gti
@Julia-xz7vb3 жыл бұрын
Crickhowell wtf! How bizarre… I’ve only been mountain biking round there. Not the first place I’d think of in relation to this car! Nice film Andrew as usual thank you. Look forward to the ones to follow
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
VW UK used Crickhowell for the Up! GTI launch (Feb 2018) and TCR (March 2019 when it snowed). The mountain road used for the test route is often used for Carfection videos.
@CK-2973 жыл бұрын
Great review on a great car Andrew. I wish you had more driving time/content.. but I'm sure you wanted more too! Looking forward to the rest of the series.👏
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks CK. I drove it as much as I could even on the Sunday when I'd done nearly all the filming and was driving for fun, had to get as much of a fix as possible as who knows when I'll drive that again.
@Wootoast783 жыл бұрын
What a great video.👍👍👍👍
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, you are too kind sir 👍
@Julia-xz7vb3 жыл бұрын
Oh look there’s even a guest appearance from a certain Tornado red pp I recognise 😍
@markgreen44553 жыл бұрын
Andrew, quick favor, is your sparco gillet the blue or black one
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Blue, bought from Demon Tweeks 👍
@Me-sb3mx3 жыл бұрын
What problem did you have with Mk7 Golf R ?
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
First ever new car - tailgate bolts missing paint, dirt in paid, scratches in paint from supplying dealer valeting, front bumper lacquer looked sand blasted at 300 miles, tried to MOP it and it smudged the lacquer so can only assume it hadn't cured properly before handover due to winter weather. Mechanically in 8k miles it was spot on.
@Piner50743 жыл бұрын
Oh dear... definite regrets there then. Just had a look on eBay and there’s a mint black 360ml example, for £49,995 if you really want one back.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
£50k? Jesus! It's good but it's not that good. Plus god knows how many cold starts its had in 4.5 years with that mileage. These cars need to be driven and I'm not inclined to reward someone for stopping someone from enjoying (call me old fashioned)
@Piner50743 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard inclined to agree, obviously bought by an opportunistic investor, not the enthusiast which it’s meant for.
@mikem26523 жыл бұрын
Very good review. 👍
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Mike
@mikem26523 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard you provide the information in a manner that’s like having a chat and a brew 😉 I have enjoyed your recent reviews re the mk8. I like the R but I can see me leaning towards a Clubsport. I know this thread is about this model but is the switch gear on your mk8 that bad? It seems to be spoiling the car. 👍
@michaelglisson99883 жыл бұрын
USA is getting the GTI, guessing it'll be similar to the previous mk 7.5 GTI S, SE and Autobahn. Never got TCR or Clubsport here. Good news for purests here is we get both manual and DSG in both GTI and R!
@miljanivanko23123 жыл бұрын
My dream car...Faster that all 7 and 8 Rs and 7and 8 Clubsport....Lonely wolf..Fast wolf
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
If you ever want an example of why 0-60 means nothing, this is the car 1 sec slower than a 7R to 60, 24 secs quicker around the 'ring!
@bird-dog813 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard a B road monster
@miljanivanko23123 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard Yup...7:47:19....I always loved GTI more than R...Both are great...GTI smells motorsport..
@gaycha65893 жыл бұрын
Time for a hair cut.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
For sure, done today!
@malcolmscott41503 жыл бұрын
Nah he turns into Damon Hill with shorter hair lol 😝
@stuf38043 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review - never appreciated the Clubsport S was so special
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stu👍
@stevew5793 жыл бұрын
what a car it took my breath away.
@anUntouchable3 жыл бұрын
Is this the best GTI ever?
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, for all its driving excellence, Clubsport S is a poor GTI because for me a GTI should remain delay useable, that's rule number 1 when making a good GTI. TCR and Mk8 Clubsport have kept useability and upper their dynamic game, undoubtedly thanks to lessons learned with CSS.
@Musti.19733 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Car. 👍👍👍
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
It sure is Musti!
@lukemartin9813 жыл бұрын
The ultimate GTI! Sadly I don’t think we will see anything quite like this come out of Wolfsburg again.
@malcolmscott41503 жыл бұрын
200 kg is a lot of weight - does the mk8 CS disguise it’s weight well Andrew?
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
It does but the Clubsport S doesn't disguise its weight saving. So the Clubsport 8 drives like you'd think a Clubsport S drives but then you drive a Clubsport S and realise it's so different. It reminds me of an Up! GTI in the way it doesn't seem to put a lot of weight on the outside wheel in corners, the kind of weight transfer that makes you feel a bit uneasy and causes understeer.
@JoJoJoker3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you can get your hands on a Mk2 Golf Rallye.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Done that video already 👍
@DanJHayes3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos so don't like to criticise, but the sound quality on your mic hasn't been very good on your recent ones.
@speedmaster50053 жыл бұрын
Oh how I wish VW fitted those Recaros in my TCR.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
An option would have been nice wouldn’t it? Maybe they’d sacked off Recaro by the time the TCR came out as the Mk8 sporty seats are from a different firm
@andrewcunningham61813 жыл бұрын
Good review but would've liked to have seen more driving content! Makes you think what Volkswagen can really do when they put they minds to it! How about producing a mk 8 with this capability and forget the nanny state!
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
I think a Clubsport GTS with the same 310 PS, back seats, parking sensors, cruise would have been pretty good but I guess that's what Mk8 Clubsport is really. Would have been nice to go manual but only if clutch is beefed up as it's the same ropey one as in manual R.
@Julia-xz7vb3 жыл бұрын
Far too much info 🙈🙉🙊 re the seat comfort issue btw 😆 😆
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to say too many mentions of the absent parking sensors!
@Julia-xz7vb3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard what’s more of an issue? Hitting the wall or crushing other areas ? 🤯🤣
@marknall75503 жыл бұрын
Great car and video but does it have parking sensors 😂
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
😤😄
@matthewsmith27873 жыл бұрын
Strange how the Mk7 looks younger than the Mk8
@DC5dotty3 жыл бұрын
And then Honda came and took the record back with the fk8😎
@330driver3303 жыл бұрын
and they did it without taking half the interior out or having a special suspension setting to cut across the curbs.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
...but the Civic looked so 'extreme' so it could get the record, very few people bought it. Plus it runs such extreme tyres that they blow out on minor potholes (as reported in evo magazine when Ian Eveleigh ran a long termer)
@DC5dotty3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard I had three of them and they were very good .. my golf r (7.5) lasted 6 weeks before it was traded in for some excitement :(
@330driver3303 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard true, honda kind of shot themselves in the foot to beat a car that is basically only designed to do a single fast lap of the ring. But then, honda is ran more by engineers than accountants and marketing executives.
@pokest2253 жыл бұрын
@@330driver330 the record civic lap was done with a stripped car, with unknown setup, and unavailable tires from factory.... The best lap ever recorded with a street example is 8:01 by sport auto.
@polopowered3 жыл бұрын
PEAK VW. It is all downhill from here. Current VW have lost the plot.
@volkswizard3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, the Mk8 Clubsport is getting the best reviews of any non-limited GTI. They aren't collectable in any way but they do mean more people get to experience the magic that VW learned when they did the Clubsport and Clubsport S.
@polopowered3 жыл бұрын
@@volkswizard I understand. They will be collectable though soon enough. That is the magic of VW.