1st Eric Hovind Commentary (2/4)

[@almightyshippo1197]

He forgot the periodic table of elements 5 minutes after the test? Why am I not surprised by that.

[@kaitsith3081]

***** Fish dont have memories as bad as people think. Just as birds arent all dumb. There are some birds smarter than some people.

[@TheUglyGnome]

+Almighty Shippo Exactly what I was thinking, when he announced it.

[@chezeus1672]

the great thing about tests. you don't have to know or understand anything to pass them.

[@Flevir]

Hey, to be fair to the guy, I forget a lot of the elements on the Table too. But the more important ones like C, O, N, H, He, Ni, Fe, Ag, Au, etc. stick around and are helpful when I'm doing chemical calculations. I wonder, what kind of work do creationists do? Oh yeah, none. No wonder he forgot it all.

[@Vandalia1998]

King Crocoduck did Eric just plagerize his dad's speach?

[@KingCrocoduck]

yes

[@Vandalia1998]

King Crocoduck thats what it seemed like. I had watched ***** video series about Kent before this and it was like he was quoting him word for word

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

I'm not so sure he's "plagiarised" it so much as had it literally beaten into him throughout his childhood. Frankly I don't know how he ever graduated school.

[@Vandalia1998]

caitlin brantley so he actually went to public and is still this dumb? I thought you had to know basics to graduate now adays

[@Vandalia1998]

***** Yah. I watched the ***** series first. Well the three that were up before I came here and when he was talking bout the si forms of Evolutions im like what?

[@jorisenter2505]

"How many of you had to learn the periodic table in school? Yeah, I forgot it immediately as well." Wait - Eric Hovind WENT TO SCHOOL?

[@vincecarter7257]

I bow down to King Crocoduck for making such great videos.

[@seawo0lf]

11:59 - 12:14 Mr. Hovind says he does not consider the Chihuahua a dog, yet admits that it came from dogs (non dogs from dogs? did he just defeat himself =p)

[@JoshuaStringfellow1]

He was joking.

[@seawo0lf]

and I was laughing =p

[@JoshuaStringfellow1]

Good :)!

[@willziegler5875]

King Crocoduck, I could not agree more with you. Excellent commentary, keep up the good work.

[@ahouyearno]

So Eric attacks science because 13.7 billion years is too short yet 6 days is perfectly fine? Even if he were correct on every count and the past couldn't be observed, I don't get how magic in 6 days would be the perfect alternative.

[@hurricane1nox]

hes getting paid ^.^ I wish I could go around to towns and spew bullshit for a couple hrs a day to a bunch of people paying me to listen lol that sounds pretty g to me haha

[@Flevir]

I would be even more depressed than I am if I had to do that. I suppose that's the difference between the Hovinds and me. I would be pained to lie to people for money, whereas they have no qualms about it.

[@hamoudbirmingham]

you have fans from Saudi Arabia !! keep up the good work

[@jez9999]

"Smarter than the average scientist" HAHAHAHAHAHAA

[@stevrsc]

"Do we ever see stars forming? No, we don't". While holding a picture of the Eagle Nebula, a snap shot of stars forming

[@aturchomicz821]

Steve C uff

[@oliverhug3]

Yes , yes everything belongs into The realm of Fairy Tales except Adam and Eve popped , ( aba kadabra ) into existence made of clay / rib ect 😄

[@joeyfeep2475]

+monika hug please take this in the kindest way, Monika. abra cadabra

[@ruairionline]

Sent here too by Wildwoodclaire; instant sub due to her glowing recommendation.

[@JohnJay2142]

So according to Hovind Science is Religion and Religion is Science, what the fuck?

[@davesteadman1226]

Memorizing the periodic table is sometimes required but the table is a reference. It's not necessary to memorize it for memorization sake just like it's not necessary to memorize the index graduations on a slide rule.

[@viyhexe131]

Like father, like son. At least Eric has a slightly less annoying voice

[@willboucher9336]

This nut did not rot too far from the tree.

[@Keethroolz]

He still sounds like a twerp.

[@Kawamura2]

Actually, Eric comes across as even more of a douche than Kent did, at least to me. At least Kent's voice wasn't so piercing and whiny. That's not saying much though. Not only that, but so arrogant in his ignorance.

[@viyhexe131]

***** I think it's just Kent's thicker accent that gets me.

[@Dmitri_Ivanovich]

Evolution in action - the offspring is still spouting bullshit, but it least he's not as annoying. Maybe in a few generations this lineage will acquire some brain cells.

[@hamoudbirmingham]

man you are so knowledgeable and funny at the same time ... great vid thanks

[@jennysolisa8735]

I hate Eric Hovind. I really do. How dare you bastardize Science like this Eric...

[@quercus417]

Isn't it puzzling that Eric can get an audience that not only believes what he is saying but praises and pays him for doing so. It's kind of like "church". King Crocoduck Thank you for your videos.

[@whiterabbit75]

Ugh. Every time he opens his mouth, I want to punch it. The amount of smarm he oozes is vomit-inducing. Seriously, if I was in that audience, I'm not sure I couldn't restrain myself from storming the stage and beating some humility into him.

[@truthtrumpsdumbness638]

"common sense," please - lack of humility is the least of his problems :))

[@whiterabbit75]

truthtrumpsdumbness Unfortunately, beating someone isn't very conducive to learning common sense, and often has the opposite effect. Though to be fair, he can't lose much more. Any brain damage he received would be more of a lateral move in intelligence.

[@mcmisher]

just droppin' in for some pwnage :) this series is awesome!

[@Poseidon6363]

What's sad are the gullible fools in the audience taking all this in.

[@hurricane1nox]

+Poseidon63 paid money to take it all in. great danes came from bananas yo

[@darv50]

The only way I'm making it through these videos is hearing your responses to his idiocy. Thank you, KC. Funny shit

[@KingCrocoduck]

Granted, the space between the galaxies has expanded to generate the model of galaxies "moving away" from one another, but the Doppler effect is still the cause of red shift. The reason is because the distance between the galaxies increases; while their relative positions remain constant, the inflation increases the distance between them, which in turn prompts Doppler. (source- prospective physics major)

[@KingCrocoduck]

Consider the following theories: Atomic theory, Germ theory, Cell theory, Gravitational Theory, Quantum Theory… Evolutionary Theory. Get the picture? (CONTINUED)

[@2010paultron]

keep it up, ur doing a great job!

[@CaptIronfoundersson]

As much as I love your snark, I love the science even more. Thanks for the video

[@KingCrocoduck]

Thank you!

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Thanks to a Catholic Priest who introduced me to Science at a very early age, by the time I was 11 I realised the Bible was a story book and nothing more. I often wonder if that priest actually believed in what he taught, as he was far more interested in Science and Technology than theology. I think it's great that people like KinCrocoduck post videos like this debunking this stuff - even if just one or two fundies watch it and start questioning, the chain may get broken.

[@Calyptico]

10:52 "Humans evolved from..." "Birds!" I fucking lost it...

[@tigerclaw1000]

i came, i saw , i listen, i subscribed.

[@squirreljester2]

2:00 forgot to mention the cosmic microwave background. Great series though, found you from Claire's latest video, so I'll be going through your vids in the next few weeks, but so far, they are very good.

[@pezzamange]

Whether or not we've observed macroevolution depends on how it is defined. We have observed and recorded several instances of speciation, which could be classified as the lowest stage of macroevolution.

[@buzzerlogicman1380]

I have an N4 pretty good for S3 in chemistry in the SQA education system. I really got pissed when he said 'chemical evolution' didn't happen that is the basis of the entire field!

[@BandOfAtheist]

Wildwoodclaire sent me this way, Great job! you have my sub....;)

[@KingCrocoduck]

I didn't mean that we should ignore or not study abiogenesis, I was saying that it shouldn't be challenged until it becomes a complete theory. There's a crucial piece missing to it regarding how amino acids could have naturally coalesced into proteins, and until we discover that mechanism, it shouldn't be brought up in debates at all. I do think that we should look into it though- we're pretty damn close to figuring it out.

[@lousy7580]

KC, I was wondering: Do we know what the galaxy looks like now or do we just have models of what it looked like in the past? Are we able to use past observations to project what the map of the galaxy looks like now?

[@MrGeodee]

Interesting. This explains a lot. Thanks!

[@Nukesgboomvirus]

Dude this is fantastic! Believe me, you're going to be the next Thunderf00t, your material is fucking great. You're criminally undersubbed, someone needs to tell the big shots (Potholer54, dprjones, DarkMatter2525) about you! Seriously, you deserve to be among those guys.

[@MatthiasPlays]

Ha, Stellar examples. DOUBLE MEANING!

[@KingCrocoduck]

1)He did not see the end of the universe, he saw red-shifted galaxies that indicated that the universe is expanding. 2)A theory is the highest level of understanding that science can achieve. Theories don't get "promoted" to facts. 3)If a debate were to center around the origin of the universe, they certainly would bring this evidence up. Thus far I've yet to see a debate with Hovind that centers around the universe's origin. 4) We have seen stars in every stage of their lives. (continued)

[@CapQuacer]

you know that refrigerator gag would be perfect if followed up with thelivingdinosaur's sarcastic laugh he gave in HH31 to Ian

[@4thDEGREEg]

I hope Eric watches these one day. I say a debate is in order.

[@ThatGuyNamedMatthew]

My degree is actually in molecular biology so I can add a bit on abiogenesis. One of the current leading ideas is the RNA-World Hypothesis. RNA can store genetic information like DNA, and it can catalyze reactions and form secondary structures like proteins. Its like a "jack of all traits, master of none" situation, even though DNA/proteins are narrower they are nonetheless better at their respective functions, giving later organisms that switched to DNA/proteins a survival advantage.

[@sonargast]

Just a minor nitpicking, if you allow: Cosmic Red Shift is technically not the same as Doppler Effect - though the result looks similar. Doppler Effect would be related to the movements of lightsource and receiver, but Red Shift is caused by the expansion of the universe, i.e. the space itself that the light travels through. But that is only a minor detail in a great video.

[@joeyfeep2475]

a rock can evolve into a wheel, I seen it on the Flintstones, eric. one of your favorite shows cuz of of the working dinosaurs

[@lbbutant]

i used to work at a milk bottling plant. we kept things pretty clean (chemical wise) but we sure as shit had milk puddles everywhere outside. I'd always wonder what would come out of those little goopy proteinacious lakes if we would just leave them alone.

[@thecentalist3160]

I don't Eric has heard of the ITER project in France.

[@1980albatros]

Hey what's up dude! was having a cup of jo with Claire, she said I should sub you and so I did. Good show!

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

Thanks for clearing that up! :D But regardless of how punctuated equilibrium happens, the main focus of my point was that evolution is not ALWAYS slow and steady, as you correctly point out, there's rapid bursts of change. Evolution is kind of a two edged sword that way, there's ample examples of slow gradual evolution, and punctuated evolution.

[@KingCrocoduck]

0)Based on evidence from the CBR and colliders, we know that the first generation of stars were made from fusing H atoms, which in turn were made from the most basic sub-atomic particles forming the most basic elements, H and He. The H atoms were attracted by gravity and fused to make the first generation of stars. Then, when large enough stars eventually fused Fe, the reactions became unstable and caused supernovae. (CONTINUED)

[@KingCrocoduck]

Well here's the difference- for the Big Bang, we have three complete models that just need data to vindicate any one of them. Abiogenesis doesn't have a complete model because of that missing aspect that I mentioned. Now I know that no model is really "complete" in that we know everything about a particular phenomenon, but it's disingenuous to attack a theory that's still in its early stages of development. That's why I think it shouldn't come up in arguments for the time being

[@KingCrocoduck]

This resulted in the expulsion of all the elements leading up to Fe into space to form new stars, and consequently created neutron capture reactions that made even heavier elements. The odds of this happening: 1 in 1, because it already happened. And it continues to happen to this day. (CONTINUED)

[@robertbarnes1981]

I like how he is willing to accept the periodic table of elements but then disregards the explanation behind all the elements

[@zeldaofarel]

It's funny that he says he forgot the periodic table. Did he take any chemistry after that? We have 5 years of Chemistry in our school system, and through all those 5 years, we used it. So yeah, I remember it quite well.

[@ysgramornorris2452]

13:06 The answer is obviously "the question mark". Because the five other choices are all living things.

[@violadude0987]

And organisms that breed more often or in larger numbers are able to respond to selection pressures more rapidly right?

[@thicks7454]

I'm tempted to make a chart showing the pros and cons of science and religion. The only thing that I can see religion being good at is either aesthetics or simplicity... or both.

[@WilbertLek]

"aesthetics or simplicity" I'd say not even those either...

[@fatskepticalone4756]

Wilbert Lek especially with christianity and it's interpretations

[@WilbertLek]

***** I am convinced every religion is equally bad (yes, even buddhism. Look up some history about the "peacefulness" (i.e. murders committed in the name) of buddhism.)

[@MrGeodee]

A star's energy comes from the combining of light elements into heavier elements in a process known as fusion, or "nuclear burning". It is generally believed that most of the elements in the universe heavier than helium are created, or synthesized, in stars when lighter nuclei fuse to make heavier nuclei-this process is called nucleosynthesis.Through the use of spectroscopy, astronomers can detect Diff. wavelengths of light given off by the presence of various elements when stars go novae.

[@matthelion]

this is good.... this is very good.... And funny!

[@WildwoodClaire1]

Thanks for an excellent video. I will be giving your channel a shout out later today and I hope you will not mind if I purloin a clip from this video (because why should I respond to Eric when you've already done a better job that could I? :))

[@daverobson3084]

" Here are some stellar examples...". I see what you did there.

[@MrGeodee]

Oh contraire, TheCrimsonoldo1987. Punctuated Equilibria is a theory proposed by Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldredge to explain patterns of speciation in the fossil record. They pointed out that the record seems to show most species undergo long periods of relatively little change (stasis), then undergo rapid bursts of change at irregular (punctuated) intervals.

[@violadude0987]

Hey King Crocoduck, aren't there some instances of "macro-evolution" (quotes because there's really no difference between micro-and macro evolution except for the time it takes) which actually did happen over a short enough time for us to actually observe? I remember reading something about that somewhere but I don't know for sure. Maybe that bird that Darwin wrote about whose beak grew bigger because smaller nuts in the environment disappeared because of environmental conditions?

[@MudderFukker-m6g]

KC, great combination of deadpan factual science and funny ass commentary, lolol... Aw man, LMAO! Jheezhus Kuh-rist this guy is Fuck-wit... I was watching while having my coffee...I don't recommend watching this while drinking *anything*... unless you want it coming out of your nose, lololol...

[@MoreNimrod]

I didn't know that, thank you.

[@n0etic_f0x]

Whenever I hear an adult say we evolved from something we still and presents it as education are I want to light them on fire.

[@zemorph42]

I can't understand your comment, and that's never happened to me before; would you please elaborate and clarify exactly _what the heck you're saying?_

[@justjack3177]

Hey KC, on stars 'lighting up' or turning on, would that be instantaneous? Or would it just slowly get brighter and brighter? What is your best guess as to the length of time it would take, a second, minute, hours, days, months, years…? I realize it takes time to build up and get there but to officially call it a star... KC or anyone? And please, no dusty beaver jokes, unless its a good one!

[@Simmlex]

If you think about it, it's probably both. Stars don't just "turn on" with max power, they get brighter with time, but there must be and exact moment when it starts to shine, no matter how brightly.

[@justjack3177]

Yea, maybe sorta like a camp fire starting, you get the fist instantaneous spark of bright light then it gets brighter & brighter as it ignites more fuel...

[@2XocraM]

justjack They get hotter not sure about brighter, but those two are normally related.

[@Flevir]

Eric. Eric. Eric. It took me 10 seconds. I timed it. It took me 10 seconds to look up primate definitionally. And guess what? It's IMPORTANT FOR THE DISCUSSION.

[@Boepyne]

Great stuff... subbed.

[@ZangelDemon]

Eric Hovind is a really engaging speaker. He would be a great educator if what he taught were true.

[@paulstephen3257]

actually geroges lemaitre,a jesuit priest ironically enough,was the first to propose the big bang theory and come up with hubbles law.Not edwin hubble.Hubble took credit it for it though.

[@pmaphl]

Not an expert either but to my understanding: 11:25 You listed Humans along with Apes as primates, which is correct, but also Humans are nested inside the Ape category, so it was odd to have Humans and Apes listed separately 11:45: we have observed macroevolution on species with high reproductive frequencies Tank you for your videos, King Crocoduck

[@Anubis424242]

"Smarter than the average scientist, I'll have you know!" that is the funniest shit I have heard all week!

[@KingCrocoduck]

That's kind of you to say, but I only just started making videos less than two months ago. That's not likely to happen for a while.

[@Layla5915]

who is he to say what is and what isn't science? whoooo??grrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaarooooooooooooooar!!!!! because there is not enough emphasis in the word "grrrr" to demonstrate my frustration!!! how do you even sit through this king crocoduck!?!? more please :)

[@AcanLord]

Oh and also. Yes. We actualy do observe what he calls macro evolution. its been documented on countless occasions and has been seen in Fish, Salamanders, plants and even corals.

[@flyingfisbeefilms]

Just been subbed OW!

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

Also too is the fossil records demonstrates too that new organisms introduced in brand new environments evolve very quickly in response.

[@psycotria]

About 9:35 , you mention 'Miller-Urey'. The only thing they showed was that complex organics could come from simpler precursors. What has been since refuted is the notion that the primordial Earth's atmosphere was similar to their setup. It is now believed that the Earth's atmosphere was CO2 based instead.

[@Mislu]

And yet, new experiments have been made after it with that in mind, and even more complex molecules where obtained... right now there's a contention with volcanic environment's and early atmosphere's origin theories. Both have successful experiments to strengthen their hypothesis.

[@KingCrocoduck]

1)Red shift is the electromagnetic equivalent of the Doppler effect. When objects are red-shifted, they are moving away from you. Almost all the galaxies in the universe are speeding away from us, which means that the universe is expanding. 2)A scientific theory is NOT a belief. It is a model that takes known data into account while simultaneously making accurate predictions about future data. It further has to be falsifiable, and it is the HIGHEST level of understanding in science. (CONTINUED)

[@KrisTheGreat359]

There is an experiment into evolution called the bacteria project. Richard Dawkins writes extensively about it in The Greatest Show on Earth.

[@putzthewondersloth]

4:24 I couldn't help but be reminded of a child when their parents tell them "I was once your age." The child doesn't believe them because to the child, mommy and daddy have always looked to be the age they are. It's basically the same thing Eric is pushing here: he doesn't see it so it didn't happen.

[@TheMagicRobot]

Christians sure do love their bananas, don't they?

[@alexandervaltsev6937]

How many times do you have comments stating that you sound like VenomFangX?

[@lowkey_entertaining9723]

I fucking love you man.

[@magickgeminid2944]

you know that whole joke you made about the nest and soup? I think that is far more correct than you intended. Its essentially all cells reacting in a soup of body fluids. This basic...basics....i don't know why Hovind can't imagine life coming from a similar soup. everything living thing comes from a soupy mass of body fluid chemical reactions that leads to division and growth.

[@HowardCanaway]

+King Crocoduck Eric should check out the work that is being done on man made synthetic cells as far back as of May 20, 2010. Also, NASA and JPL has hundreds of photos of solar systems in formation, baby pictures of what our's once looked like.

[@LisaForTruth]

Hey, KC! Evolutionists don't believe we came from rocks, but creationists believe we came from dirt. Can anyone say, "Projection"?

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Good point, that has to be a powerful motivator, particularly when everyone else's Dad has to pay their taxes, but your Dad can spend his tax money on vacations etc...

[@discolemonade66]

So eric, you admit you forgot what you were taught in science class immediately after a quiz and yet you are now prepared to school those who haven't. Nice one.

[@AuroraDashPteriforever]

So, who am I supposed to talk to to claim my 11 trillion free stars?

[@Cyclonit]

Hearing Hovind talk is hurting my brain...

[@sisyphus461]

The damage men like Hovind does to society as a whole is terrifying to think about.

[@WakeSideLife]

The greatest part is at 10:52 "Ladies and gentleman, humans evolved from _______" "DIRT!"

[@danielmackay4362]

Just a question, KC said that some of the stars we see are not really there anymore, we just see old light emanating from them so how do we know they're not there? This is merely an honest question not an argument or anything.

[@WeaponizedAutismiii]

My best explanation, the space telescope no longer tracks the heat pattern the star would be exposing if the star was still there. I'm not a scientist or giving a fact. Just my best guess

[@SargeRho]

You can estimate the age of a star by its light. If you know how far away it is, you can estimate if it's still there.

[@WilbertLek]

"Creatard" is a Contamination. "Stupid creationist" is a Pleonasm. "Creation science" is a Oxymoron. "He's into creationism and intelligent design." is a Tautology.

[@shtarnakkthtexemneomn7435]

Just to clarify, I am referring to Hovind, not K.C.

[@veryatypical]

4:32 "Have we seen star forming?" cracks me up : : how about "Have we seen any physical proof of gods?"... touche Hovinds.

[@kawaiimercenary]

About nonliving things coming to life, you could argue everyone who died and was defillibrated succesfuly.