Pyrrhus vs. Romans and Carthaginians DOCUMENTARY

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In the previous episode of our animated historical documentary series on the king of Epirus Pyrrhus and Pyrrhic wars, the Greek king defeated the Roman legions at the battle of Heraclea. Although the battle was impressive, the Roman republic wasn't planning to relent and sign a peace treaty. Pyrrhus and his phalanx would have to fight Rome at the battle of Asculum, but even that wasn't enough to sate the appetites of the king and he would later attack the Carthaginians on Sicily.
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[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@affandi99]

War at South East Asia perhaps ? Anyway nice video as usual :D

[@hamidmahmodi9184]

battle of carrhae pls guys

[@mogyesz9]

I would be very surprised to find even a single person whos morality has issues with pateron but not with youtube.

[@quma2590]

Historical sources being unclear ? I am not suprised.

[@belimsamir7122]

India-pakistan war 1965

[@gene51231356]

"As he recovered, two embassies arrived, each with a unique opportunity for the Epirote king." - That feeling when the game gives you two quests at the same time, but you can only accept one.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Right? Very Paradox-like. :-)

[@tycondero1647]

@@KingsandGenerals He made the wrong choice imo irl

[@ahamedihamiyun5927]

@@tycondero1647 nope

[@joeah3479]

Yes, he obviously made the wrong choice. He looked like someone without clear goal. Dividing your army in 3 landmasses while sharing long borders with macedonia is a dangerous position. It would have been better to accept the kingdom of macedonia and prevent a potential future rival on his long borders with it. It is in fact macedonia that would have been the spring board to other conquests. He may be a good general but obviously a bad politician, that is the difference between him and Julius Caesar I think.

[@tobywallis1412]

Joe AH and if he took Macedonia, he’d have even more borders - with the Antigonids, Seleucids, Gauls, and Lysimachids. Both choices were equally bad.

[@MrMortadelas]

This man fought against Rome, Carthage, Macedonia AND Sparta. I am sure if he knew about the Chinese he'd have fought them too. How about finishing a war before starting the next, Pyrrhus?

[@ililililili9726]

@Squadron266 More like total war veteran player.

[@heavenwatcher100]

More like God of War player. Should have sent this boooi to the battlefield of Chang'Ping for some extra excitement!

[@heavenwatcher100]

Btw, China was still in the Warring States period. He should be quite happy about the number of battles to participate.

[@gene51231356]

Won every battle, lost every war.

[@moviejose3249]

True he just did not have the finishing touch of Alexander the Great. I mean Pyrrhus was a great local warlord but he never was quite able to move and conquer as far and wide as Alexander.

[@Mattyhollis]

Pyrrhus REALLY does get bored quickly, doesn't he?

[@Liquidsback]

Pyrrhus is the Patron of all those who have A.D.H.D.

[@leanderfoster8450]

Lol me playing total war

[@lkvideos7181]

Phyrrhus is literaly everyone playing the Total War series.

[@nugo31gelashvili46]

@@lkvideos7181 qartvelixar bijooo :D

[@davidrosner6267]

Sounds like Pyrrhus needs to take some ritalin.

[@thuzan117]

3:56 Pyrrhus: "No way am I going to siege a city with an army at my back, that's crazy" Caesar: *Battle of Alessia*

[@junior1497]

thuzan117 Except Alesia was nothing like Rome. More resources and manpower would have been needed

[@ELPATATASESINO]

ye even alesia was a big gamble and was won by a small margin

[@Sealdeam]

Like Caesar Pyrruhus was quite the risk-taker but retreating the correct choice, the amount of manpower Rome was able to field could had allowed them to withstand the siege and still threaten part of the territory in Italy Pyrrhus was using as base while maybe even still having an army near the besieged city as an additional threat even while not directly confronting him, pretty similar to the tactic they used later agains Hannibal when they realized that they could not beat him in open battle, so they started to strike his allied while he was occupied elsewhere.

[@ronaldbaker8533]

@@elovhak2354 Best comment!

[@craezee247]

@fmoa there were no highly trained legionnaires in the time of Pyrrhus, the roman soldiers were situational conscripts that had to provide their equipment, shure they were disciplined and some of them were "going to the triari" but it's a stretch to say that the combined might of almost all the celtic tribes of France(or Gaul) that Caesar faced at Alesia 200(!!) years later were not both numerically and technologically superior to the republican armies that faced Pyrrhus. it all boils down to the marian legion at it's prime wich was the best fighting machine of antiquity and probably one of the best if not the best in history, and Caesar himself, wich was a rare species of superhuman that never lost a single battle no matter what he was figrhing

[@nikolak4225]

Phyrrus protecc Phyrrus attacc But most importantly he overstreched his ambitions to hecc

[@kekero540]

Not only that, he assumed the superiority of his army. Most of these battles don’t really have clever tactics this makes me think he thought he could’ve just let his army massacre the enemy without much help from him. But it just ended up being a slog, which the Romans would’ve won. with it’s almost unlimited supply of manpower.

[@bugrilyus]

@@IPendragonI what were Greeks doing in medieval times anyway? I never heard of them a thing!

[@MarfSantangelo]

@@bugrilyus Ever heard of the Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire? :P

[@bugrilyus]

@@MarfSantangelo Yeah, I know them but my question was rather ironic than literal. Thank you anyway.

[@karlhans6678]

@@MarfSantangelo what relation is Greece to Byzantine? and btw what were Gallic warriors doing in the south-east europe 11:45?

[@algutgeutschwin1511]

When you put all your stat points into Intelligence and Leadership but none into Luck.

[@LeCharles07]

"It's better to be lucky than good."

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@LeCharles07 It is indeed.

[@bkjeong4302]

Is fighting Rome and Carthage at the same time really intelligent?

[@Prodigi50]

Bk Jeong Was Alexander fighting the Persians intelligent? The Arabs fighting the Byzantines and Sassanians? Napoleon fighting those coalitions? Etc., etc. Great conquerors don’t really do intelligent things they’re just really lucky.

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@Prodigi50 They're good you mean. And lucky things happen to them.

[@Liquidsback]

Look up the definition of savage and you will see an image of Fabricus.

[@christosvoskresye]

Because he could not be bribed? Sure, that means he would not fit in with any of our modern capitals, but still....

[@jakobschoning7355]

noo, I think it has more to do with him saying that the Epirotes would want him as a king, actually...

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@innerparty1 All history is fabricated. If it's not a good story, no one will remember..

[@Liquidsback]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry but you do, you are talking about it.

[@user-sx1mm1sl6u]

@@innerparty1 He probably said that as a joke to Pyrrhus but later reported the story as it was serious

[@SeleucusNicator]

After watching the previous Pyrrhus video on the Battle of Heraclea, I started a new campaign as Epirus in Divide et Impera and decided to abandon Tarentum and focus on conquering Macedonia instead. Fast forward 127 turns to 246 BC and Pyrrhus has died at the sexy age of 69 and left an Epirote Empire stretching from Pannonia in the West to the Bosphorus and Armenia in the East to his firstborn son Alexander II. It's campaigns like that in Total War games/mods and Paradox games/mods that make you think how different our history and the world could've been if powerful people had made different choices.

[@KingsandGenerals]

All we can say is "nice". :-)

[@Pravdik918]

I tried to do the same thing as you did. Conquered Greece and Macedonia, but after I took Pella, everyone and their mother declared war on me... Rome is sending full stacks to attack Apollonia like every turn and I can't recruit or reinforce phalangites into my elite army since most of my population have already died in the war. Don't know if it's just bad luck or something but this is like the first campaign in DeI that I felt I couldn't do anything... Also Liguria is doing naval invasions in southern Greece for some reason and doesn't want peace :D

[@deskouk1773]

@@WaydeRobson get medieval 2 with Europa Barbarorum 2, most historically accurate and fun campaign. The game starts with Pyrrhus in the Peloponnese after returning from Italy on his way to besiege Sparta. You are at war with Antigonus Gonatas (Macedon), Athens, Sparta etc. There is also a range of factions to choose from (all the hellenistic factions, rome, carthage etc.)

[@yllbardh]

if life was like a game... or better said if game was like a life then you would probably take the same decision as Púrrhos did.

[@gannonfrank]

during my play as Pyrrhus i took out the Greeks Romans and Carthage they all went to war with me by turn 2 by the end of mine i stretch from south Spain and north Africa across to Romania and Asia minor it was my 1st time as them and a fun playthrough

[@Armorius2199]

Conquers half of Italy, leaves. Conquers 99% of Sicily, leaves.

[@adrianbundy3249]

More like 10% of Italy...

[@Armorius2199]

@@adrianbundy3249 Ok it was about 40% of the peninsula.

[@TheChuckfuc]

Not a very good finisher. He's like my dad starting 5 different projects but not completing any of them.

[@LS-sx4vc]

He had a hard time setting up government and to govern the people, he was always underfunded and under man power especially his high ranking officers always died because he always wanted action instead of staying away from danger

[@masayukitachibana2756]

andrew your dad sounds like me

[@Papa_Susej]

"I never thought I'd die fighting alongside a Cartheginian." "What about dying alongside a friend." "Aye, I could work with that."

[@justOneOllie]

Jk Carthago delenda est

[@jonshaw840]

Oliver lmao

[@christiancristof491]

And then they later both collapsed to the romans, lmao

[@Immeh505]

I'm sure that's the speech between Legolas and Gimli in Lord of the Rings

[@karlhans6678]

is this for Pyrrhus?

[@peymanmostafaei6963]

What a combination! Romans and Carthaginians! Man, it's pretty funny seeing these two factions on one side. No wonder Pyrrhus is so unique in early Roman history.

[@james583mk]

They aren't on the same side. They are just independently fighting the same king.

[@james583mk]

@@bravozero6 the other saying is "The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy"

[@cpsoup8775]

@@james583mk XD

[@wertyks508]

Romans and Carthaginians were allies since around 500 BC when they fought Etruscan domination in Italy

[@flagearvideo]

James, they were actually formal allies. Pyrrhus´ campaigns prompted Carthage-Rome´s Fourth Treaty of 279 B.C., Carthage offered naval support to Rome in case of a Greek attack.

[@aslandus]

I can already tell that Pyrrhus becoming superstitious is going to make things kind of hilarious... Pyrrhus: *makes questionable strategic decisions, raises heavy taxes on his people, antagonizes every superpower under the sun* *Bad things happen* Pyrrhus: "Am I cursed?"

[@DanielLee_2304]

I like the artworks of Pyrrhus and his armies hope to see those kind of artwork in other videos. Amazing vid, btw!

[@robbiemcsweeney1318]

Thanks! Had good fun making them :)

[@DanielLee_2304]

Cool! Keep up the good work.

[@alexwallachian7720]

@@robbiemcsweeney1318 i thought they were sponsored by the game company being so professional made! Woah congrats

[@robbiemcsweeney1318]

@@alexwallachian7720 Thanks! The illustrations are fairly rough. But, as long as they're historically accurate and to a sense realistic, it's all good! I always enjoy illustrating this time period.

[@alexwallachian7720]

@@robbiemcsweeney1318 no way. They are not rough at all. They are great! Keep it coming

[@stefanosgrimp8990]

Pyrhhus at one point was challenged into single combat by a mamertine pirate and it is said that he striked him so hard that he almost cuted him in half horizontally

[@Vlad-wl3fw]

What is your source?

[@stefanosgrimp8990]

@@Vlad-wl3fw plutarch life of pyrrhus you can check it out

[@masayukitachibana2756]

Wow, I wouldn't call a halved man cute, but well, different age, different taste 🤣

[@user-dm5kv9gz8h]

Have all those books in modern Greek it’s wonderful when you read it from ancient sources.

[@Kyros9119]

For anyone curious enough, here is the part, "...he sought to ward off the enemy, and ran great risks in contending with men who were trained to fight and were inspired with high courage. And when he was wounded on the head with a sword and withdrew a little from the combatants, the enemy were all the more elated. One of them ran forth far in advance of the rest, a man who was huge in body and resplendent in armour, and in a bold voice challenged Pyrrhus to come out, if he were still alive. This angered Pyrrhus, and wheeling round in spite of his guards, he pushed his way through them - full of wrath, smeared with blood, and with a countenance terrible to look upon, and before the Barbarian could strike dealt him such a blow on his head with his sword that, what with the might of his arm and the excellent temper of his steel, it cleaved its way down through, so that at one instant the parts of the sundered body fell to either side. This checked the Barbarians from any further advance, for they were amazed and confounded at Pyrrhus, and thought him some superior being."

[@crex-pd1vv]

Sigh **Starts up Rome total war**

[@alexk3529]

If only Apollonia was owned by a playable faction called Epiros... :(((((

[@LV_427]

Pyrrhus seems to be a fierce warrior, good leader and tactician but really suck at grand strategy and politics.

[@goosequillian]

Feel free to surpass his strategy and politics.

[@LV_427]

@@goosequillian of course I can't. I'm just a random guy in the internet, just like you. And why is that a problem to you?

[@canadiannavigator3346]

LV427 ... ADHD at its finest

[@unfunnyyt6405]

Pyyhric fucking lost a shit load of casulaties

[@Universal..]

For those who do not know this tribe (the Molossians), who were they, what territory did they occupy and how were they considered by the ancient authors ? Let us stop for a moment to know more about the tribe of the Molossians from which Pyrrhus. To make it simple, the tribe of Molossians is in Epirus somewhere in the region of Chameria on the back of Thesprotians who dominated the coastal part. In addition to this, the Kaons who were in the south of present-day Albania and who constituted three of the great tribes of Epirus. Historically, tribes like the Molossians or others who composed Epirus like the Kaons, the Thesprotians, the Paraue, the Antintans and others, are historically linked to the Illyrian culture or to a part of it. As Thucydides tells us about the events of the Peloponnesian War that involved both actually in reality Illyrians and Illyria itself, these tribes were commonly considered barbarian (non-Greek) tribes. Thucydides: - "Among the barbarians there were about 1,000 Kaons who ruled without a king. Along with the Kaons, the Thesprotians also participated and were also ruled without a king. There were also the MOLOSSIANS, the Atintants and the Paraues. ( HISTORY OF THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR ) All these tribes, mentioned by the historian of Athenian origin Thucydides for their participation in the famous Peloponnesian war in the 5th century B.C., are considered as barbarians, therefore not Greek! ( Thucydides II, 80- IV, 126 ) The Kaons, the Thesprotians of Chamerie, the Arintans and the Parauets constitute the backbone of what one called Epirus. Among them are of course the Molossians where are the roots of Pyrrhus And Thucydides is not the only source which defines the Epirotes as non-Greeks. There are many others ! According to the encyclopedia Basic Antiquity, composed of 86 volumes... Pauly Wissowa the Real "Encyclopedia Alterumswissenschaft" says that the Epirotes are of Illyrian origin 🇦🇱 and have strong links with the population of southern Italy! More concise on the issue, the only Nobel Prize in history is none other than Theodor Mommsen author of the cycle "Corpus of Antiquity inscriptions" which says that: - "the brave Epirotes, the Albanians of antiquity supported with traditional loyalty the young and brave Pyrrhus or "the Eagle" as they called him " . Let us point out on this subject that the Albanians name themselves "Shqiptar", that is to say "sons or children of the eagle". The soldiers of Pyrrhus (3rd century BC / Epirote King), called their King "the Eagle" and that the latter retroqued them one day that they were his "children", so the Albanians are the children of the Eagle ... "Shqiptar = child of the Eagle .... " . (Pyrrhus was the cousin of Alexander the Great, of the Molossian tribe and himself an ambitious conqueror ). That the Epirotes are or are not Illyrians is a discussion that, from an archaeological point of view, is resolved. The Epirotes and the Illyrians have the same culture, if we consider the Iron Age, the use of tombs, fortifications with several rows of walls, their material culture, the shape of the pots or the ornaments which are identical to those of Korça (current Albania) and religion. Not only ancient authors like Thucydides, Strabo and others have called the Epirotic tribes barbarians (non-Greek) but also later serious publications based on documents and archaeological findings point out the same thing. The Molossian, were one of the Illyrian tribes of Epirus . Moreover in the years 1944, Epirus was populated by a strong Albanian population, but an atrocious genocide was committed by the Greek army on the Albanian civil population. This massacre, perpetrated by the Greek soldiers on the Albanian civilians (the tchams), has been forgotten by history ! Genocide of the Chameria..

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Priorities when playing as Rome: 1. Destroy the ugly product of the Diadochi 2. See #1

[@Alaryk111]

3. Cartago delendam est.

[@salehalsheikh1586]

@Ghalam Pen wut?

[@ave92me]

@Ghalam Pen iranian king of kings watched his capital razed and burn more than once by roman emperors and in the end heraclius kick their asses so strong that when arab invade persia few years later they did not face any resistance by "king of kings"

[@ave92me]

@Ghalam Pen the peace treaty that you are intentionally refferring is the small truce during the last roman persian war bro (very smart). You know... The war continued in 622, defeating a persian army near Armenia, in 624 there were another series of battles (roman victories) against ay led by khosrau and some of his generals like shahrbaraz, shahin and shahraplakan. In the same time there was an attempt to besiege Costantinople by Avars and slavs with the help of the persian but it was another defeat for Persians. Then heraclius brother crushed another persian army led by shahin. AFTER those persians crushing defeats some of khosrau allies stay neutral (because they started to be afraid of roman counter offensive), however... Go on... In 627 heraclius lead another offensive, this time he entered Mesopotamia region and despite some of his allies desertion (yes also roman had desertions, not only persians) he was however able to defeat another time the persian army at Nineveh, sacking Khosraus great palace (at Dastagird). AFTER THOSE disasters khosrau was overthrown! After! Not before! His son sued for peace leaving ALL occupied territories (so also Syria, Egypt and Jerusalem). The truth is that after the war persian army was annihilated, arabs found no resistance and persian empire collapsed, east roman empire at least resisted for another one thousand years. Sincerely i didnt see any link between modern iran and persian empire, not the same name, not the same government form, not even the same language or religion (LOL you have more common points with arab culture than persian culture)... BUT if you want to put on this plan then we can say that italy and italians (but i saw this also talking with spanish) defend their roman ancestors (even greeks defend them because they saw the roman-hellenistic culture as part of their own culture). Also in general european culture derived from the fusion of the roman culture with the germanic element and latin culture was (and it is also now) studied and admired by all european. Look also to a lot of comments in these videos on roman history.. you can see there are a lot of people who defend roman legacy.

[@wolfm33]

Excellent work. Pyrrhus might have been too ambitious when he chose to fight Rome and Carthage at the same time but on the other hand he was the only king from the many Hellenistic monarchs that understood the danger coming from the west and attempted to prevent it.

[@hidalgoyakerson1598]

This guy deserves his own tv show

[@barbiquearea]

So he robbed the god of the dead's consort's temple and the ship carrying the loot got destroyed. Now that's divine retribution for you.

[@masayukitachibana2756]

barbiquearea "almost like divine justice" Edit : -Beric-

[@raceykovev2829]

Nice to see Pyrrhus soldiering on even as he is overwhelmed on all sides by evershifting powers.

[@yoshilorak5897]

Phyrrus helping the Sicilians instead of crowning himself king of Macedon is the greatest OOF of the classical period.

[@gbendicion7052]

Make a new documentary about Rome's fight for dominance in Italy :D

[@romaaugustus1694]

Battle of Sentium

[@emirdacic2521]

One of my favourite channels uploads again!

[@TruthVids]

There is so much great history from the early Roman days.

[@danyksvanhelsing970]

I(as an italian student)translate latin versions,and last month i translated a version about Facricus and Phyrrus! So epic!

[@JohnnyElRed]

"This is the origin of the term "Pyrrhic Victory"." *roll credits*

[@Shredding29]

Always an awesome feeling waking up and seeing a new upload

[@Coraxincarmine]

Your channel is the best, I get so happy when I check my phone and see that there is a new of your vids up. Keep up the good work!

[@miasma19]

Absolutely brilliant presentation!!! Thank you

[@dimitriskamakis8025]

Great documentary as always! Thank you!

[@usamanaveed1258]

I love your videos keep em coming good work honestly ❤️

[@philRminiatures]

Another video of exceptional quality, Pyrrhic battles and campaign to play and re-play , a real pleasure for wargamers! Fabulous job, especially the animations on the maps/illustrations...👍👍👍👍

[@NoahWeaverRacing]

Absolutely amazing video! I always love watching y'all do Roman history. I'm loving the greater and greater quality that y'all are putting out, though in my opinion the sound could use some work. But maybe that's just on my end. Either way the graphics have come a LONG way and i love it! Thanks for the great historical content!!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thank you very much!

[@KHK001]

Yes! I've been waiting for this 😃

[@orions2908]

I don't know why KZbin recommended this to me, but I'm grateful

[@KingsandGenerals]

Welcome aboard, consider sharing!

[@karlhans6678]

you discovered a new great channel!

[@joekhaiphet9253]

Amazing video! as always.

[@HobGothlin]

Great video, thank you !

[@robbiemcsweeney1318]

Great video guys! Another fun video to illustrate!

[@lukezuzga6460]

Great video for a great time in History!!! Thx

[@guillermo3623]

I love that you are covering the history that I am learning in Latin class keep up the great work

[@Tanakun09]

Foolish Pyrrus, Sicily was not worth your time. The kingship of Macedon was worth more.

[@Tanakun09]

@raspoutin Exactly, he would of have a home base to pull and tap all resources from Greece. Man power would not be a problem. But Pyruss was a fool.

[@Tanakun09]

@Aleksa Petrovic yes, but as long as Carthage is a sever threat in Sicily. I wouldn't touch that region. I would prefer to have Macedon and the Greek shore land as a supply line and maximize it to its effect

[@kobbehh]

I think he probably thought about it and decided against it considering that others had claims and he might have gotten nothing but a knife in his sleep but who knows why he did what he did

[@Tanakun09]

@@kobbehh Sicily had a Greek colony their and it was rich in resources and he can,(it was closer than the Greek mainland), restock and feed his troops from their. However as I mention earlier, Carthage is their and too fight Carthage and Rome would be suicide. In other words, he would be fighting on two fronts. A very bad idea. I would of choose the Greek mainland over and consolidate perhaps the costal citys as my resource hub first and then attempt a dagger thrust into Macedonia.

[@Tanakun09]

@earaza Nope. But I think I would of been better than he was in decision making.

[@stalker11421]

I always get the need to play Rome II TW when I watch Kings and Generals videos..

[@demoiselle_chris9466]

Hahahhhaha I dont have this game ;_;

[@craezee247]

I feel you man!

[@hocestbellumchannel]

Such nice artwork, congratulations to the illustrator

[@tylerdreamer9219]

Damn, that time period is my favorite. Thank you for your work! Loveee

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks for watching!

[@timthewarlord2304]

So a Pyrrhic victory means victory with heavy losses for your army

[@amp8295]

I think he actually said "One more such victory and we shall be undone" after heraclea

[@amp8295]

And Pyrrhic victory actually means a victory gained at a cost so great that it was not worth it.

[@Armorius2199]

A victory that has a heavy casualty number that makes further campaigning difficult.

[@JohnyKar1]

As a greek,with the greek meaning of the phrase,we mean a victory without earning anything.A victory only as a title,without rewards.

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@Tim The Warlord Yes so say for example you had 20,000 men and your opponent had 40,000 and you inflicted 20,000 casualites but lost 15,000 men yourself then that would be a pyrrhic victory

[@glaucofernando9154]

Wonderful!!! Thanks again!!! S2

[@lv-gamer2568]

Was watching another K&G video when this popped up!

[@elmogreen107]

This is a very interesting tale. Great work.

[@bogdanflorescu2355]

Great series, great content, keep it up guys!

[@KingsandGenerals]

We will, thank you!

[@kummbara1]

art, animation, narration all perfect.

[@maesmydog6691]

The most underrated Character and General in the antique-world!

[@bkjeong4302]

Maes Mydog Ironically he was actually thought of as a great tactician (if a horrible strategist) in antiquity; Hannibal considered Pyrrhus better than himself.

[@jimcastor8601]

thanks for the video

[@duskoveselinovic2060]

Keep up the good work!!!

[@solaristologist]

this is like the latest episode of Keeping Up With The Macedonians

[@matichotujec6266]

How long have i been waiting for this one..

[@demosthenessirony4774]

this is the best series you guys have done.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@jordanhicken7812]

@Kings and Generals I absolutely love the art style in these videos! Who does the artwork? Great work!

[@lt.danicecream]

Seems like he underestimated a lot of his enemies. I don't know what kind of intelligence system he had, if any. But the term, "bit off more than you can chew", comes to mind with him a lot.

[@lt.danicecream]

@@andreasmpintas9073 in any case it seems he didn't do enough scouting or gathering of intelligence. If so, wouldn't he have known of the Tarentines? Fat Greeks etc. Just seems he went looking for victory but underestimated his foes every time. Be it logistically or martially.. The guy is very interesting to say the least, but I feel he would have fared much better if he had good intel before jumping in the deep end.

[@TheSamuraijim87]

@@andreasmpintas9073 actually Tyrants were the norm, and nowhere moreso than in Sicily. Commoners especially loved Tyrants as Tyrants invariably bolstered their regime by breaking the power of the wealthy oligarchs. Losing was a capital offense, not Tyranny. But it is true that the Sicilian Greeks failed to Mobilize their military capacity. But Pyrrhus acted too rashly. Had he mobilized Sicily more slowly he might have succeeded in greater fashion.

[@willdoherty2849]

pure DOPE. thanks guys

[@matanuskabutler7566]

Really happy to finally find in depth phyrrus videos. Anyone that is a major fan of history should look up kings and generals on Facebook and think about joining the history debates!

[@h96573]

Ιf Pyrrhus had won this war, history would have been very different and rather interesting. We could have,in addition to a Greek empire in the east, another one in the west!

[@malikbenslimane2873]

Ak Ak in a history marked by battles, sieges, wars and falls of empires, you could say the same about every war and battle

[@VentiVonOsterreich]

Would never happen; Greek city states have limited number of recruitable troops while Rome is organized enough to seemingly have a fountain of endless recruits

[@Pemmont107]

Even if they had won the Mediterranean, history has shown that Ancient Greeks were (for better and for worse) by nature a fractured and independent minded people. Barring the occasional paragon like Phillip or Alexander, no one Greek leader could have kept any large empire intact for very long. Eventually the Greek cities and regions of the Mediterranean would break apart in civil wars or Independence movements.

[@h96573]

@@Pemmont107 true, but think of the impact such a vast empire would have. It would have completely changed Late Ancient History!

[@Pemmont107]

@@andreasmpintas9073 Not really. History is not as simple as "Greeks vs barbarians". Take Persia, for example: itt's true that Greeks fought together against the Achaemenids when faced with total subjugation. But remember that this coalition broke apart almost instantly after the immediate threat of invasion was halted. For most of their history Greeks and Achaemenids actually cooperated. Athens and Persia were actually allies as various points, as were many other Greeks cities.

[@nadimsarieddine9835]

Nobody: Pyrrhus: Let's conquer Syracuse lul

[@Mrdevs96]

im loving these topics 😍 what wonders have been lost to history!!?

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[@zacharylewis2765]

Love your content.

[@kelvinmelon1668]

i really love your channel and have been watching a lot of ur videos (not all just a lot) idk if u will read this but I'm kinda hoping for a punic war video (the second since it's "sort of" more interesting than the first 😂) i know other channel already made it but I'm really looking forward one video with kings and general narators and style which is my fav among all channels and especially with imperator rome (around the period of ancient rome) becoming most of the sponsor i hope they want to sponsor the punic war series

[@4sakenreaper42]

Another fascinating video

[@jollesracing517]

Amazing video!

[@davethompson3326]

My knowledge of the period begin after Alexander, pre Rome cover only the Diadochi & mainly in Asia I had heard of Pyrrhus, naturally, but thought of him a little more than a mercenary general. How interesting to discover the context of his actions, trying to forge a power base on the fringe of Wetern Hellenism

[@Red0100]

very fitting add in the begging I must say, it's nice when there is some connection to the actual video

[@robinledesma2683]

Another awesome episode. Though, I'm still waiting for Season Two of the Mongols! I hope a video on them will be done soonest. :)

[@dylanjwagner]

Another well-made video. Only note is that Pyrrhus is typically quoted as having said, “Another such victory and we are undone.” Not, “One more victory and we are undone.”

[@shalomcollege6482]

The wait was worth it.

[@UltimaSigmarAlonso]

Pyrrhus the stannis of History

[@tbj1972]

Great video 👍

[@rashedalsuwaidi3648]

he should’ve secured his Macedonian throne because that would make him the king of Epirus and Macedonia and have more troops to recruit then march to Sicily and recruit even more Greek warriors then march directly to Rome.

[@scorpioneldar]

honestly it is kinda a toss up. Inheriting Macedon means Inheriting Macedon's enemies and they are many and powerful. the barbarians are nothing compared to what would come next if the Anatolian region saw one Greek consolidate nearly all of Greece. It would be the end of the Italian campaign as well as he would have to return to Greece to rule and defend thus probably being the end of the Greek Italian colonies. Stronger position in the long run probably though. With his choice if he did not get driven out of Sicily by the people he just liberated he would have had lots of new money and men to continue the Italian campaigns against Rome and what does he care if Macedon gets run over in the mean time. he stopped waging war with Rome to get more supplies to fight Rome with. Sicily will give him that without exposing him to new threats. (Carthage can't really threaten his homeland or even the Greek colonies if they don't hold Sicily)

[@moviejose3249]

Also he could of made a tactical move hoping the Gauls would of killed off many of the nobles and competitors to his claims in Macedon. Why go save Macedon and then be faced with a bunch of back stabbing nobility. Let the Gauls grind them down to nothing then come in and save the day.

[@rashedalsuwaidi3648]

scorpioneldar tbh I think being king of two large kingdoms and with the alliance of Ptolemy the thunderbolt and with the Greco Sicilian tribes would made things easier for him. Just what Philip and Alexander did they secured all of Greece

[@ElBandito]

Macedonian court was a treacherous place. I am sure a straightforward man such a Pyrrhus wouldn't have lasted long there.

[@scorpioneldar]

@@rashedalsuwaidi3648 But he was not the same kind of man as Philip and Alexander. He was neither as loved as Alexander nor as skilled at politicking and unassailable as Philip. He was nearly deposed 3 times in his own kingdom much less in this new much more treacherous and complicated political environment.

[@scottishscotman6268]

Great stuff

[@Daruliable]

Good video 👍🏽

[@boghoss5798]

Love this series

[@TyrannosaurusRex5027]

Just avenged this in total war by setting what was left of Epirus on fire. Pity the Romans were not able to use giant lizard riding bigger lizards like I am about to ...

[@GiorgosKoukoubagia]

sigh... mod name?

[@TheSamuraijim87]

Uhhh...T Rex, how do you speak English?

[@TyrannosaurusRex5027]

TheSamuraijim87 duolingo

[@heavenwatcher100]

This man clearly possessed a vibrant soul. He was never tired of fighting battles. Should have teleported him to the Mauryan-Seleucus front or the Warring States in China for more excitement!

[@liagoutas]

I am Greek and never heard of Pyrrhus Sicilian campaign! But i know one thing is certain. "The curse of Lokroi will strike...."

[@yeetus2754]

The great northern war would be awesome, keep up the good work

[@andreasgkargkasoulas41]

Taking under consideration the story of Hellenistic world and the rise of Rome I would say that the Greeks had underestimate the uprising power of Rome. Instead of giving a decisive blow to Rome the were spending all their power and vigour in internal conflicts. 120 years latter when they understood what was happening it was too late..

[@ssejr01]

The more i watch these vids the more I realize how badass the Antigonid line really was.

[@lujoviste]

Oh yeah do Antigonus Gonatos he is really interesting

[@Sealdeam]

As a militar Gonatas was considered to be quite mediocre, this victory described here being his only notable achievement in this regard, but that aside that guy seems to be one the most interesting personalities of that period, an odd paradox of a rather humane character and political skills mixed with ambition and trickery, he used his talents at their full extend with a lazer-like focus towards an objective while the more talented and much romanticized Pyrrhus wasted himself wandering from one project to the next.

[@lujoviste]

@@Sealdeam Yeah i like him because he just seems like the most humble of them, He once said to his father why does he send troops on a siege even tough they will propably die. Demetrius said so they could save food for those who stay alive and Antigonus found that really inhuman. Also when he reived the severed head of pyrrhus he was very dissapointed in his son who brought it to him

[@Sealdeam]

​@@lujoviste I like him too for that very reason, it is extremely rare to find a ruler which seemed to be that merciful and empathetic while at the same time being pragmatic and successful, he is a paradox to me because while he showed numerous times a conduct that was exemplary like the ones you mention (he also returned the remains of Pyrrhus to one of his sons to be buried with honors despite their very personal animosity ) but at the same time the sources say that no other ruler was more responsable than him in establishing tyrants through Greece, the word was not negative then like it is now but that shows he was not a blind idealist but a skillful politician. If you want to know about other ruler similar to him which combined success and a firm and good moral code Attalus I of Pergamon is another good choice.

[@bryceniksich3761]

this is the best series I don't want to wait another month :{

[@DedicatedSpartan]

I read a book on this restless warrior, one of my favorite anecdotes is the story of how he was thrown from his ship in a storm, or jumped, and swam to shore shocking everyone who was positive that he had drowned.

[@hassanbassim4007]

Pyrrhus is an example of how to be a great general but a bad king , He would be a better use under a capable king as a general instead of him being the king himself . He simply knew nothing about politics, managements and foreign affairs and that was a deadly weakness .

[@nikm1856]

your job it's awesome , I learn better history you are one of the best teachers in the world and you explain all this carefully

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thank you very much!

[@nikm1856]

@@KingsandGenerals be good and continue your history videos😉

[@unstoppable-ar3292]

Please more of king Pyrrhus wars series. He's a great king!!!!!!

[@KingsandGenerals]

More on the way!

[@unstoppable-ar3292]

@@KingsandGenerals Thank you brother!! Best channel out there for historical events.

[@outalloud]

Hi! I really like your videos, but I have a question: through what program/programs do you make such animation?

[@Armorius2199]

Pyrrhus deserves Rysprct.

[@nickedmondson932]

*loots from a temple* ...ships get sunk right afterwards Pyrrhus: *picachu face meme*

[@SimonBea1]

Seems like Pyrrhus was in need of a loyal brother/general which could have held the fort in his absence. That guy could have been king of Macedon, Sicily and/or South Italy (Magna Grecia).

[@gangnamstyle5270]

I feel that the pre mature departure from Italy and invasion of Sicily was a bad strategic choice, but I see the reasoning for jumping to Sicily..... I wonder what would have happened if he decided to sit and slug it out with the Romans

[@Basfopera]

Top!! 👏🏻

[@Xxonfire1212xX]

Mighty and brave Pyrrhus knew how to gain a victory, he simply did not know how to use it. I think Antigonus Gonatas was right in his assumption of the Epirote King. He was like a dice player with excellent throws who simply couldn't make worthwhile use of them. Fittingly enough he is known to have told Pyrrhus that were he ever weary of life, that the King of the Epirotes would find many ways to die. An insightful video as always @Kings and Generals!