Mycenae - What do we know about it? Bronze Age Greece DOCUMENTARY

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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series on the history of ancient civilizations continues with a 3d tour of the main city of the Bronze Age Greece - Mycenae. In this video we will showcase the architecture and structure of the city, focusing on the religious practices, defenses, culture, and daily life of the Bronze age Greeks.
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[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@loneranger000]

A tour of city of Troy would be great hoping u read my comment ❤️

[@corboy8414]

@@loneranger000 I read your comment, and I am part of the team. I hope this brings you some joy to go with your morning coffee.

[@corboy8414]

@@adityathakur467 Hell yeah, I am glad you got to learn a lot from these videos!

[@_royanalief]

Give sound indonesiaa pleasee

[@redsavage5997]

May i ask why didnt you use photos of how Mycenae is today. I mean you could put real time photos above the animation or at the end of the video for example. Im guessing you thought of it and discharged it as an idea. Sooo why not? The video was great anyways

[@corboy8414]

Hi everyone! I am Christian Romero, the animator and modeler for this video. I worked on this video over the summer from late June to August, and it was a blast to work on. Even for the points it was challenging and where the renders accidentally broke close to the last minute - oops! But overall, I had a great time, and I'm happy we can finally share this video with you all! Cultural preservation and historic recreations are incredibly important to me, and I hope to work on more projects like this down the line. I am currently pursuing grad school, and I look forward to seeing where my studies take me. Hopefully they'll be as fun as this video was! I'm especially happy to have included my low-poly character models in various shots where people get mentioned. I think it's important for artists to inject their own creative spins on the projects they work on, and I think Kings & Generals does a good job of granting its artists that degree of freedom. Also fun fact: Heinrich Schleimann was supposed to make an appearance at the point that he gets mentioned with the Treasury of Atreus. He would've been really excited to see it, ready himself to throw a stick of dynamite at it, and then a comically large cane would've yanked him offscreen. However, I had to give myself time to move, so sadly that scene got left out. Also, special thank you to Ilkin Gambar for this very unique opportunity. It's been a fun and challenging time, and here's hoping I get to work on more cool stuff like this in the future. An additional thank you to Leif Sick, another animator on the team, for giving me invaluable feedback on making these renders and acting as tech support when things broke at the last minute. Look forward to your next video, my man! I hope you enjoy this video, and I look forward to hearing all of your thoughts! You can find more of my work at www.artstation.com/corlykia, and I certainly look forward to updating that page with everything cool I did for this project. If you've read this far: thank you dearly. I hope you go hug your loved ones, cherish the time you have with them, and also be critical of power structures and propaganda. Be curious, humble, nuanced, and above all else, be kind. Also play Fallout: New Vegas. Farewell, everyone. Solidarity Forever!

[@br2485]

I'm incredibly grateful for your work! It's beautiful and educational ❤

[@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ]

You turbo-gigachad! The work is absolutely STUNNING

[@corboy8414]

Thank you both so much!!

[@elvincecodilla2862]

Love your work, keep it up

[@hydroac9387]

Very nicely done! Congrats on the excellent video! I hope to see more...

[@Ecclesia_]

Those are always heavy thoughts: that even to ancient civilisations there was already the concept of an ancient civilisation. For example: Cleopatra and Julius Caesar are closer in time to our world, than to the builders of the pyramids. As ancient as Cleopatra and Caesar are to us, the pyramid builders were even more ancient to them...

[@nerobeyo2]

And in turn, we will be considered ancients to the people in the far future. Heavy thoughts indeed. I wonder what they would've accomplished so far in the future. Will it be utopia? dystopia? or will there be nothing due to some cataclysmic event?

[@skrrskrr99]

@@nerobeyo2 some day some alien species will pull our bones and cities from the earth and have them in an alien museum.

[@HeinVonderweid]

@Ecclesia Great Comment!

[@petar_mrkonjic]

​@@nerobeyo2 it will be more like here in this story in the future people will think our walls and city's was built by giants, like in whole human history after big civilization collapse is come a time of oblivion and people start from scratch again building thy own civilization with inspiration of old one

[@Tradley]

And people alive during the construction of the pyramids probably had the concept of Göbekli Tepe and hunter gatherers

[@awesomehpt8938]

That cyclops waving hello and smiling just melted my heart! 🥹

[@corboy8414]

I"m super glad you enjoyed! I was planning something silly for that scene for a while, and I eventually settled on that. It came out looking wonderful!

[@sachemofboston3649]

@@corboy8414 how much do you charge? Do you have an email address where I could contact you?

[@ΡωμανόςΔ́Διογένης-θ6δ]

It is interesting that the ancient Hellenes believed that the Myceneans were ancient giants who once roamed their lands, even though the Myceneans were actually their cultural forerunners. In much a similar way, the eastern Romans thought that the ancient Hellenes were ancient giants who had built all the classical ruins dotting their lands, even though the Hellenes were their cultural antecedents. Ironic, yet most amusing. Greek history is cyclical.

[@nataliekennedy4646]

Indeed

[@liamjm9278]

At least they don't think aliens did it.

[@anto-sk4ce]

But the byzantines knew hellenic history how they thought they were giants

[@lordadorable1140]

@@liamjm9278 “Sweats in Japanese”

[@ΡωμανόςΔ́Διογένης-θ6δ]

@@anto-sk4ce I will try to explain briefly. While the educated citizens of the state knew fully well who the ancient Hellenes were, the Hellenic history was not taught to the common people who filled the streets, the villages and all blocks of normal life. The average -Byzantine- Roman citizen had forgotten who the Hellenes were. They referred to the ancient ruins dotting the Mediterranean landscape as works of the _Hellenes_ ; namely, they believed that ancient giants had built them. The elites of the state did not encourage Hellenic learning and in many ways it was discouraged as it contradicted the Christian Roman ideology. This state of affairs most definitely lasted even under the Ottomans, until one day the Hellenic/Greek revolution happened in 1821, which aimed to establish a new and independent Hellenic state that sought to undo the Roman identity and re-hellenize the Greeks.

[@konstantinapapaioannou4306]

The fire in the centre of the megaron was called hestia. Both the words megaron and hestia, are still used in modern greek, the former means large residential building or large estate and the latter means flame, fire or even centre of activity. Just as hestia was at the centre of the house... The beauty of preserved language...

[@enyalios316]

Indeed. It is arguably the most conservative language in the world. But alot of terms were reintroduced because of the influence of the church and Καθαρεύουσα, and rightly so.

[@msicvbes4977]

@@enyalios316 Sure Catharevousa played an important role in restoring the modern greek language. Its use as the official language of the Greek state for two centuries influenced standard modern greek of the 21st century too.

[@konstantinapapaioannou4306]

@@enyalios316 even without the influence of katharevousa, greek has a lot of words that habe direct roots from medieval, koine and classical greek. As you said yourself, it is a very conservative language. The linguists that I have read are actually mentioning how little it has change in the span of its 5,000 recorded history in comparison to other Indo-European languages like english, for example.

[@enyalios316]

@@konstantinapapaioannou4306 Sure, certain words like ἄνθρωπος, ἥλιος, γῆ and θάλασσα were in continuous use since Homer and before. But 400 years of Turkish occupation left the spoken language very vulgar and corrupted in some places, which is the main difference between demotic and standard modern greek. It had to be standardized and purified via the formal language used by the upper classes and influencial poets and linguists. Koraïs, Papadiamantis, Vyzantios, Voulgaris etc. The diglossia in Greece wasn't even that modern. It basically existed since the Hellenistic period.

[@konstantinapapaioannou4306]

@@enyalios316 in all honesty, I think we give the turks way too much credit for corrupting our language. Greeks forget that for 1000+ year we were ROMAN and also called ourselves romans up until the 19th century, way way after the east and west roman empires fell. We have way more italian vocabulary than turkish. 380 years of ottoman rule ain't got nothing in comparison to a millenium of roman identity.

[@PrimeroVorian1]

Bronze age in Greece is so awesome! There are so many sites in Greece of that period, but in need of further excavation... Thank you for this cool video!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah!

[@JD-jl4yy]

Really love the 3d reconstruction, but it would be cool to see the modern ruins as well, especially when a lot of it still remains, such as the Lion gate and Atreus tomb. The combination of real life ruins and reconstruction would really speak to the imagination :)

[@D.Pap_Art]

Indeed! Also it would draw a clear line between fact and speculation.

[@pieterhulsen9170]

i have been there, they are indeed fascinating. the lions gate is imposing

[@apexnext]

Those 3d models were really cool. 😎👍

[@Gentleman...Driver]

I believe its hard to find pictures without copyright. And it also wouldnt fit the art style of the channel.

[@NYCfrankie]

On my first trip to 🇬🇷 seeing the mycenae lions gate was awe inspiring

[@biscolataman]

The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We have assembled genome-wide data from 19 ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and their eastern neighbours from southwestern Anatolia. Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1,2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4,5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter-gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia6,7,8, introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe1,6,9 or Armenia4,9. Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations.

[@seaman5705]

You are jocking, right ? Modern Greeks in the half northern part have up to 30% Slavic blood . Modern Greeks are also the result of countless re-population from Anatolia/Asia Minor . Do indicate , please , where we can find this nationalistic study !

[@olenickel6013]

19 people is a ridiculously small sample size if you consider these are then also divided upon three distinct regions. I wouldn't draw as sweeping a conclusion about ancestry from that as the authors of that paper did.

[@olenickel6013]

@@moutsatsosa No, I don't. Which is precisely why I won't make such claims about genetic relations.

[@olenickel6013]

@@moutsatsosa Should we abandon scientific rigor over defensive online comments that throw the magic ideological buzzword of "canceling" at any kind of valid caveats as to the extent to which conclusions can be drawn from limited data?

[@aokiaoki4238]

@@seaman5705 Are Slavs really a substantial genetic group?

[@kostasargiris3209]

It is fascinating the fact that the word "basileus"(king) in Mycenaean greek , was in fact describing a middle ranking officer of the state. The head of the kingdom was called Anax and thus the word anaktoro(palace). After the collapse of the great cities of the period, the smaller settlements survived under the commands of the basileus and thus the word started to describe the head of each state ! 2,500 thousand years later the emperors of Constantinople called themselves basileus of greeks and Romans!

[@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85]

I had read about this recently. Some historians think that (w)anax is the original Greek word for king. Basileus might have entered the proto-Greek language from an unknown eastern culture.

[@gainmelk]

You’re confusing the Doric Minoans with the Achaeans Greek. This difference explains the shift in meaning of its etymology across millennia.

[@ancientsitesgirl]

AWESOME video! I was there a year ago, my favorite place in Greece❤❤❤

[@enyalios316]

Pausanias description of the lion gate: «Μυκήνας δὲ Ἀργεῖοι καθεῖλον ὑπὸ ζηλοτυπίας. ἡσυχαζόντων γὰρ τῶν Ἀργείων κατὰ τὴν ἐπιστρατείαν τοῦ Μήδου, Μυκηναῖοι πέμπουσιν ἐς Θερμοπύλας ὀγδοήκοντα ἄνδρας, οἳ Λακεδαιμονίοις μετέσχον τοῦ ἔργου: τοῦτο ἤνεγκεν ὄλεθρόν σφισι τὸ φιλοτίμημα παροξῦναν Ἀργείους. λείπεται δὲ ὅμως ἔτι καὶ ἄλλα τοῦ περιβόλου καὶ ἡ πύλη, λέοντες δὲ ἐφεστήκασιν αὐτῇ: Κυκλώπων δὲ καὶ ταῦτα ἔργα εἶναι λέγουσιν, οἳ Προίτῳ τὸ τεῖχος ἐποίησαν ἐν Τίρυνθι.» "It was jealousy which caused the Argives to destroy Mycenae. For at the time of the Persian invasion the Argives made no move, but the Mycenaeans sent eighty men to Thermopylae who shared in the achievement of the Lacedaemonians. This eagerness for distinction brought ruin upon them by exasperating the Argives. There still remain, however, parts of the city wall, including the gate, upon which stand lions. These, too, are said to be the work of the Cyclopes, who made for Proetus the wall at Tiryns." (Paus. 2.16.5.)

[@julesknight1511]

Thermoplyae and ancient Mycenae separated by 1/2 millenia

[@enyalios316]

@@julesknight1511 Yes... And how long was Mycene inhabited?

[@enyalios316]

@@julesknight1511 That hasn't got anything to do with it. Pausanias states that in 480 BC. the inhabitans of Mycene sent 80 men to Thermopylae. So wtf is your issue?

[@redsavage5997]

@@julesknight1511 ok and how does this contradict Enyalios comment? Yes in the video is presented Mycenae at its peak around 1200 BC and the guy above is stating a comment of Pausanias which was made about the city some centuries later. It was the same city inhabited by the descendants of the classical era city .How does one comment contradict the other. You make no sense .Its like arguing with yourself. The video explains everything perfectly

[@jillscott4029]

@@redsavage5997 Presumably he's sharing a description of the lion gate from antiquity, because it might have been more clear that they were lions then.

[@tilt12345678]

Amongst many other aspects, i am impressed by the narrator's impeccable pronunciation of the word "Isthmus".

[@markusskram4181]

I love Greek history so much

[@jasonmcwhirter7093]

I LOVE this! I love learning about ancient history, but before Rome, Greek, and mid or late Egyptian civilizations. We are finding so many civilizations older than them.

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah! I am glad you enjoyed :)

[@lionspirit100]

Just arrived in Nafplion and going to Mycenae tomorrow what a great coincidence!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah! Hope you enjoy your visit!

[@bosertheropode5443]

Man, I'd love to visit the mycenean palaces one day. Lucky you ;)

[@Bogey1022]

I've waited all my life for this.

[@corboy8414]

I am glad that we have brought this to fruition for you, my friend.

[@kostastat1323]

Thank you so much for this. I remember visiting as a kid this place and my father reading to me the stories of the Iliad and the Odyssey. One of the best memories of my life. It's so beautiful to see what I could only imagine back then!

[@ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΟΣΤΣΙΟΤΣΙΑΣ]

Without wanting to offend the other civilizations but your greek and eastern roman videos are some of the best and would love to see more videos about them

[@roscoe4092]

Such a good episode!!! Can’t wait for you to cover the Minoans :)

[@manuelapollo7988]

The quality of this video is incredible

[@corboy8414]

Thank you so much!!

[@HistorywithCy]

Watching this I felt like a wanax roaming through my palatial citadel! Nice one guys, really loved this one!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, I am glad you enjoyed it! Keep up the good work on your end, too!

[@pickaxingoneuropa8457]

this is PURE CLASS!

[@nicolemakropoulos98]

Im half Greek as my dad's from Emathia and I would absolutely love to visit Greece, such an amazing country and history.

[@corboy8414]

I hope you get a chance to visit one day! I am glad this video inspires this pride

[@nicolemakropoulos98]

@@corboy8414 Thank you so much! Great job on the animations btw hope to see more!

[@konstantinosserres3598]

I have visited the ruins almost 15 years ago... I plan to visit them again once my 4 year old son reaches an age where he will understand history... Thnx for this amazing time travel!!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, I am glad we could provide this! I hope you enjoy visiting the site with your son! I hope your son enjoys learning about Mycenae too!

[@joshlesure3196]

I'll always enjoy learning about the Bronze Age. I didn't know there were so many theories about the Bronze Age collapse! Amazing video, as always!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, and glad you enjoyed it!

[@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319]

I've waited such a long time for this one! ❤❤❤

[@corboy8414]

I'm glad it's finally come to pass for you! I hope it was worth the wait!

[@christopherhanton6611]

o my o my i am speechless Kings and Generals this episode was so Beautiful KEEP DOING MORE PLEASE 🙏

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, glad you enjoyed it! More videos like these are definitely on the way!

[@tannertasman]

Yes! Please more of these tours!

[@zerubiszeus4687]

Taking a western history class, and this video helped immensely since textbooks often become tiring to look at

[@julesknight1511]

Right on! I've always been fascinated by the bronze age and the world shattering bronze age collapse that ended it

[@hammer1134]

Makes me want to go there awesome video as always

[@ηγη]

perfect video love from Greece

[@Εντούστιτς]

Greetings from Mycenae! I live at the village which is closer to Mycenae, about less than a kilometer away! Μυκήνες, το μέρος των προγόνων μου!!!

[@corboy8414]

Hello! I am so glad someone from around Mycenae actually got to check out this video, I hope you enjoyed!!

[@koumospecial]

I ‘ve been to the ruins of this ancient city 3 times and I am AMAZED by the accuracy of the digital reconstruction of the site and the surrounding landscape!!! The creators of this digital work did a magnificent and almost epic job !!! Kudos to all of them!!! 🫡🫡🫡🫡 👏👏👏👏

[@barbiquearea]

In the 12th century BCE, the Mycenean Empire started a decline of central control and eventual collapse. It's not known what exactly caused this once powerful civilization to come to a drastic end, but what is known is that the Greek world entered a chaotic period of nomadic migrations, invasions and fragmentation.

[@abcdedfg8340]

I feel like it was closer to a loose confederation of monarchs. But just going from what i read. Not an expert. But they certainly seem to have united at some level when they wanted to take over crete, fight the trojans, or something else. Unfortunately we dont seem to have details on their alliance systems, unlike the classical period.

[@profesorstevabakmaz4822]

Written text was not "practiced" for 400 years, and decorations for example went onto much more simpler style. By this im just adding to your statement, which is actually called Dark Ages of the Bronze/ancient times. There is a great book and hypothesis called 1177 BC. That's what they take now as a year for a great floods, droughts, earthquakes and ofc Sea people ☺️ And not only for the Mycenaean civilization. Same for the Hittites, Assyrians, etc... It's called as well thr collapse of the Bronze Age!

[@julesknight1511]

Their decine came about during the bronze age collapse, the only unknown is how the actual city itself fell - either by revolt or war

[@ranjanroy82]

Advent of the sea people

[@nataliekennedy4646]

They were more like kingdoms not one empire

[@GairBear49]

I'm a long time subscriber and have watched you become a truly excellent history channel. Your 3D Documentaries are stunning. As a certain Vulcan once said "Live Long And Prosper".

[@corboy8414]

Live long and prosper, my guy! I am so glad you enjoyed the video, and hope you keep learning new things!

[@AyubuKK]

Really fascinating. I always like learning more about pre-classical Greece.

[@fidelisokodu201]

I love this channel. So educative and and the same time entertaining.

[@NIKOLINAKAREFYLAKI]

kings and generals, this is great work im so glad that i found you! so historically accurate too, in total sync with all the latest bibliography and history sourxes that i had researched. thank you for helping me put a picture on the theory so that it will be easier for me to remember! so wonderfully educational, i will be syggesting the video and the channel to everyone!

[@Juandiegostefan]

best channel ever damn it, it just keeps getting better

[@thepwrjunkie7378]

The reconstruction & 3D renders really bring this to life in a new way. It's excellent work

[@corboy8414]

Thank you so much, I super appreciate your kind words!

[@50PullUps]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the animation at 0:37. Two ladies spot a cyclops who does a double-take and then waves.

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah! I am super glad you enjoyed that gag! Makes me all the happier that I included it :)

[@stamkos33]

Awesome video, thank you

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, you are welcome.

[@Alexq79-]

Awesome video, I love tours like these

[@profesorstevabakmaz4822]

My biggest love in history for the last 2 years, freaking Bronze age! I recommend to everyone to watch or read 1177 BC by Eric H. Cline, its only about the collapse but still to me its the most interesting thing, because its so mystifying. Kings and Generals thank you guys!!!

[@xxcoopcoopxx]

Nah, just read the originals. Thucydidies, Plato, Aristophanes, the Pre-socratics, etc. will teach one far better. And, you'll be thinking for yourself. Read Cline and Jowett, Durant, Russell, Buckle, etc. to see how different your thoughts were from the best. Or, buy your stairway to heaven.

[@profesorstevabakmaz4822]

@@xxcoopcoopxx Thanks for the advice

[@showze21]

excellent summary of Mycenae

[@alejandrosakai1744]

A studio made at Harvard University suggests that Modern Greeks are descendants of Mycenaeans and Minoans, which means that the Ancient Athenians, Thebans, Aeolians, and Ionians had the blood of Achilles and Odysseus, and the Dorians like the Spartans and the Corinthians were descendants of Heracles!

[@jimbojangles9056]

Really hoping you guys delve as far back as you can. Ancient history just amaze's me

[@barrandilltanathlas1177]

I would just like to say thank you for all your videos so far, and especially your use of BC and AD for calendar eras.

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah

[@TinyEpics]

Interesting work. I’m obsessed with the Bronze Age Greeks, especially after visiting Mycenae last spring. What an incredible place!

[@Numba003]

I'm still loving the Bronze Age videos! I'm excited for more! Plus I enjoyed the animations in this one. 😄 Thank you! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

[@Jonnygurudesigns]

Absolutely stunning

[@jonbaxter2254]

How architects and engineers managed to build these things 3,500 years ago staggers me...

[@andreaspitsinis255]

@@moutsatsosa tell me about this empire building music

[@georgepapatheofilou6118]

Cool Fathers Day gift for me in the land down under. Impressive work . Kudos to all the team .

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, I am glad you enjoyed it!

[@robbabcock_]

Fantastic video! I love the 3D rendering of how the ruins might have looked when they stood proudly in the ancient past.

[@corboy8414]

Thank you! Those models were a lot of fun to make!

[@V-man117]

The Myceneans were the first of the Greeks dating all the way back to 1600 b.C. They were a strong military power in the region and a great civilization 🇬🇷

[@jk-gb4et]

Minoans

[@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85]

@@christos3280 Where are you getting this information from? The Minoans were not Greeks. They did not even speak the Greek language. Their religion and customs were not even remotely Greek. The Minoans were however assimilated by Greek-speaking populations which settled in Crete, before it was Greek.

[@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85]

@@christos3280 How about, every serious historical book ever written? Minoans culturally influenced the earliest Greeks, but they were not Greeks. They spoke a different language and had a different religion. They lived in Crete, and as their civilization fell, they were assimilated by the spreading Mycenean civilization. This is why Crete became a part of the later Hellenic civilization after Homer. It is also farfetched to say that every Greek today has Minoan descent.

[@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85]

@@christos3280 The only thing weirdly formulated here is your hilarious claim that the Minoans were Greeks. This is the revisionism. Apparently, you paid little attention in history class. Minoans as a civilization predated the earliest Greeks. To see Greeks claiming Minoans as Greeks is like Turks claiming that Trojans were Turks, just because Troy once existed within the modern confines of Turkey.

[@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85]

@@christos3280 I did not twist your words. The opening post above said that the first Greek civilization was the Myceneans, a statement with which most historians will happily agree upon. Then you sprang from below and claimed that the Minoans were the first Greek civilization. It was obvious what you were trying to assert. So I did not twist your words. You made an untrue statement and I responded to it, because I know for a hard fact that your claim is wrong.

[@aliA-jz5ms]

Ahh !! All western historians especially from UK start with Greece and end on Greece !! Please also make videos on Indus Valley Civilization and Punjabi kingdoms at the time of Alexander !

[@δημητρηςκουλεντιανος]

Hello K&G! I love your videos and i admire the effort that you must put into making them. In this video though you placed the ancient city of Μycenae geographicaly whrong. Just to the west of isthmos is the city of ancient Corinth, Mycenae is to the north of modern day city of Argos, for someone who lives in the US this might not look far apart but for Hellenic standards it is entirelly different location. Thank you for your content!

[@Auto_Learning]

An incredible amount of work must have gone into this animation. The level of detail is really impressive. People in the past would have killed for this type of learning experience. Keep up the great work, man.

[@Freewill33]

Thanks for putting this vid together with the building/graves animations n their treasures, I’ve just got into the Myceneans civilization def one of the first stone fortress to be constructed. Amazing!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, glad you enjoyed!

[@salilbhatnagar]

This animation is absolutely fantastic!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, thank you!!

[@pseudomonas03]

Very good video again! Only that the doubt about the Trojan War, it's non sensical, since the Hittites in their archives they had references not only for one, but for at least three Trojan wars, confirming the archeological finds (multiple destructive events), and the mythological stories as well (for example the first sack of Troy by Hercules etc).

[@angelcabeza6464]

So it wasn't nonsensical then of it was porven to happen not by gifs but by men

[@petervoller3404]

The doubt isnt whether or not the historical city of Troy was at some point partially destroyed by war (which yea we can be fairly confident happened at some point), the doubt is whether or not that war was being referenced by Homer, which is more doubtful as the dates dont quite line up

[@pseudomonas03]

@@petervoller3404 Many times we forget thar the two main ancient Greek historians Herodotus and Thukydides also considered the Trojan War as a historic event. So the doubt about Homer's poetic narrative is one thing, but to doubt that the Trojan War ever happened, it's non sense.

[@petervoller3404]

@@pseudomonas03 like I say, it's the details about the war that are doubted though, just saying "a war at troy happened" is the same as saying THE trojan war happened

[@pseudomonas03]

@@Bramble451 The oral tradition though is based on real historical events. For example the Fall of Constantinople it was still present in the folk songs of the Greek world even 400 years after the historical event. The same could happened in the case of the Trojan war(s).

[@vane909090]

It's interesting to think about that even for the classical time ancient Greeks the Myceneans were ancient history already.

[@theobessiris9681]

Great video. I hope you can do a similar one one Carthage showing what the city may have looked like concentrating on the whole city and not just it's famous harbour. The city that the Phoenicians built and not the later Roman one.

[@serge-partykingtech5923]

Amazing work like always guys !

[@corboy8414]

Thank you!

[@pauleugenio5914]

These videos are really great - I really appreciate the transition to modern ruins. It helps to contextual use the archaeology 🏰⛏🗿 I would be very interested in a video showing pre-excavation to post-excavation to show how the archaeology progresses. (Just throwing the idea out there.)

[@pauleugenio5914]

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[@corboy8414]

@@pauleugenio5914 thank you for your kind words! I think pre-to-post excavation could be interesting, but it would vary wildly from place to place. Like studying Mycenae as it is today, there's not a whole lot about the ruind that really changed/got unearthed besides the grave circles. Though I like the idea of showing some of these ruins as if they are currently being investigated by an archaeological team. That would be nifty to see in a video like this.

[@KalleB1999]

Brilliant! That was so epic I loved the reconstruction. Will there be a similar video for Knossos as well? As it was the 2. Most famous Greek bronze age palace.... Greetings from Germany

[@dinsdalemontypiranha4349]

Thanks! I've always been fascinated by this culture, so it was great to watch this video.

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, I am glad you enjoyed it!

[@patrizioqualireto8433]

Amazing! My sincere compliments

[@mahmodsalman6920]

Your videos on bronze age turn attention towards great civilisations that deserve to talk anout I hope you do a video on the city of ugarait

[@JD-jl4yy]

So cool to see the reconstruction after having walked through the ruins myself! I can remember walking through the lion gate and looking down into the excavated grave circle A. Also, you can visit the tomb at 10:00, and it looks a lot more impressive in real life!

[@corboy8414]

God I can only imagine how surreal that is. I hope to visit one day myself, after spending so much time rendering the darned thing.

[@JD-jl4yy]

@@corboy8414 The whole Peloponnese is brimming with history, you can't drive a 100m without without coming across a brown board pointing towards an archeological site! We went Athens > Corinth > Epidaurus > Argos and Mycenae > Sparta. Do recommend! And thanks a lot for the reconstruction, you did a great job! I imagine there's not that many sources out there to build a reconstruction from.

[@corboy8414]

@@JD-jl4yy God that sounds incredible, and I would love to visit one day! Glad you got a chance to check it out! I'm super glad you liked the reconstruction, too! It was a real challenge to piece together various other imaginings and reconstructions to make this video. Definitely had to take a LOT of artistic liberties, which sadly comes with the territory of this stuff. Also, super happy to see the Lion Gate is still intact. There's something very special about making a replica of a work of art that someone else made 3500 years ago. Like, this art and the act of creation connect you and the original artists together across time and space. It's really neat.

[@DeepDarkSamurai]

Yo this was good, I'd love to see similar about other ancient civilizations of this age, the bronze age is extremely interesting and this format is very strong

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, much love and respect from the K&G team to an esteemed wizard

[@cirthador1453]

This is so cool!

[@peterjones7673]

A fantastic video with it being great in 3D it brought great memories back from when I visited here on a school trip many years ago. Great, more pllease

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, I'm glad the 3D brought back great memories for you! That's a great thing for me to hear as an artist - that something I make, especially a recreation of something real, can evoke such fondness and nostalgia. Hope you have a lovely day!

[@jordancabe732]

Came to scratch my Mycenae itch, found the friendliest cyclopes I have ever seen. 10/10 would watch again.

[@sevoo1579]

More than 20 Hittite tablets are also refering to Achaens as Ahhiyawa and Troy as Wilusija/Wilusa (Ilios?). With Wilusa deity being Appalliunas (Apollo?) and the Wilusa lord being Alaksandu (Alexandros=Paris?)

[@sevoo1579]

@@moutsatsosa Nice, have you got discord ? and some books to recommend ? Thank you

[@zaboybagoi8636]

@@Bramble451 Tarwisha,Wilusha and Mitilini were different cities of same Luwic kingdom.Mycenaians called it Ilios League.

[@zaboybagoi8636]

@@Bramble451 Greeks called this region "Ilios",not Trojans.Troy was a city and also the name of a dynasty who ruled the lands around Mount Ida. This is why old text may call Wilusa or Mitilini as "Troy".

[@SIERRATREES]

This was so instructive ; being able to visualize it, giving a great sense of what it was like ; albeit, I still like the challenge of re-imagining ancient sites from crumbling stones, for we cant always have access to brilliant 3D work such as this. I love the little touch of sparkling wall torches inside the treasury of Atreus ; It gives a sense of what it would have been like, just after the final finishing touches and ceremonial acts were completed, right before it was all sealed.

[@corboy8414]

Thank you so much for your kind words! Glad you enjoyed!

[@Paladinae]

If only this video had existed, when I was examined in ancient history during my studies. Renowned professor Lengauer often asked: "After passing through a Lion Gate, what would you see on the right? Thank you for great, inspiring and educational video!

[@denniscleary7580]

More of this please

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, absolutely. I'm setting off into the KZbin Sunset, but more videos like this are absolutely on the way.

[@madsdahlc]

Great video and grrat animation showing one of most powerfull citystates in bronze age greece. Mycenae was just one many citystates in ancient bronze age Greece. ....

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

[@felipefspb]

Impressive video. I love your youtube Channel!

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, this KZbin channel loves you too. I as the animator definitely appreciate your kind words!

[@jaymsu9671]

I just visited and made sure to watch your video first. Nice introduction.

[@corboy8414]

I'm so glad our vid acted as a primer for your trip to the actual site. Hell yeah!

[@jonbaxter2254]

I love these videos, strolling through an ancient city. Could you do a Roman fort, such as Vindolanda?

[@corboy8414]

I can't give specifics, but K&G would love to do more such videos like this. I sadly can't do any more myself, for I am departing for an unknown and hostile land (grad school). But, hope your wish comes true eventually!

[@jonbaxter2254]

@@corboy8414 Good luck at grad school, I love these vids of yours!

[@corboy8414]

@@jonbaxter2254 thank you kindly! Good luck in your life endeavors too!

[@ctangkau]

@@corboy8414 Hi, do you have discord? I would like to ask some questions. Thanks!

[@corboy8414]

@@ctangkau Hi, I didn't see this, what kind of questions do you have? I don't want to give my discord out here, but if you join the K&G discord and post there, I can try my best to answer your questions depending what they are. I'm only the modeler, so any history questions would have to be answered by someone else. Otherwise, look forward to hearing what you would like to ask!

[@maxjelley4055]

Amazing video

[@corboy8414]

Hell yeah, glad you enjoyed!

[@esmenhamaire6398]

Excellent video!

[@specialnewb9821]

Bronze age is fascinating. It feels like such a different world. If the collapse hadn't happened I think hunan civilization might have developed differently.

[@traceurGeorge]

We can only dream of one day being able to walk through and experience the great cities throughout history. Imagine the smells and the sounds, the technology and the stories. Once you start thinking like that, it’s hard to even pick a certain point of which you’d want to experience, there really is so much history to choose from.

[@minimal8187]

Well if not we then the next generations will experience such things with the virtual reality

[@freezinginferno2106]

I just came back from doing an archeological practicum in Crete, I hope we find a definitive answer to the bronze age collapse within my lifetime

[@xssonlineltd4212]

I love the admission is that we know for now instead of jumping to conclusions like Egyptologist who have conclusions on things 2 or 3 times older than the Greek history if isn't even way older than we can imagine. Hat up 🎩

[@tropics8407]

That was brilliant. Man…if you could mix this in with actual parent day pics or video 🤯🤩

[@mikeoakman6708]

it is crazy to realize how great this civilisation was and how long ago it existed, thousands years before romans... the collapse of bronze age reminds me and in fact resembles the collapse of the western roman empire and decline that followed

[@freakystyle1996]

I like to think of the collapse of both the Roman and the Han empires in the early centuries C.E. as an "Iron Age collapse", the difference being that a lot of sources survived from this period. Neither war nor men ever change, I think given the same background (famine, plague, migrations) history will develop the same way over and over again.

[@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156]

That relieving triangle at 9:30 is a fascinating early try at expressing the concept of the arch.

[@vbw4551]

Hope someone makes Tv series about it "beyond the trogen war". Would love to see a reel adaption of that era.

[@paununs8719]

What's up with moroccan/MENA nationalists in the comment section?

[@baarbacoa]

I think they are Slavic nationalists of Balkan origin, hoping to grab some glory from ancient Greece. And territory from modern Greece.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

really excellent model of mycenae. wow.

[@mynameispro20]

i only see the like button, where is the love button? cant find it, because this video deserves more than a like

[@TheWepwawet]

I love it, i have see it 3 times already

[@corboy8414]

Thank you!