How Christianity and Judaism Split DOCUMENTARY

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[@mistmanjones3555]

Cool video! I’d love it if you guys did one on Saturday vs Sunday and how the days of worship changed along with the early church and how latter Protestant movements like Adventists and Lollards viewed the shift.

[@jewelkurianelias]

Also expecting a video about messianic Judaism

[@amfa42]

@kingsandgenerals ! wonderful video as usual! What's the nane of track that is played on 7:24 ? how can I find that track!!?

[@jeksixten5751]

Are you an agnostic person?

[@samuelwetterau9226]

The Song of Songs is older than Christianity. How can you claim that „Christians and Jews exclaim“ something together in the Song of Songs?

[@RCorvinus]

This is what happens when you don’t practice safe sects…..

[@brainstormia5743]

Nice one 😂

[@cepreupupkin2218]

Religion is leaving the world, and Russia is the last stronghold of traditional Christian values.

[@LIKEICARE84]

@@cepreupupkin2218 no laws against beating your wife and children, invading your neighbours, rampant drinking and drug use, skinhead and hooligan culture.....sounds about traditional yeah lol

[@JustGrowingUp84]

Ba dum tss!

[@abhidxs6121]

​@@cepreupupkin2218 lmaooo

[@spencerheaton3332]

"So there was this guy named Jesus..."

[@AduckButSpain]

Yeah, but he was Jewish.

[@SamlSchulze1104]

@@AduckButSpain Indeed, Yeshua from the name yehoshua.

[@m_0714]

​@@Methodius-and-CyrilLiar. Jesus was called and had been recognized as a Jew by the Samaritan woman at the well. Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans. - John 4:9 KJV

[@AduckButSpain]

@@Methodius-and-Cyril Lol. Jesus was born a Pharisee and became a Zelout. "Rabbinic Judaism" IS "Second Temple-Judaism" just without the temple. The differences are simply laws like: "instead of donating to the temple, donate for the poor".

[@elevationprocess3144]

This is historically incorrect. There was no Christianity in the First Century, Christianity came about in the 3rd century. It started out as The worship of Serapis and then in the 5th Century at the Council of Ephesus Serapis became Jesus Christ and Christianity became the Mainstream religion by the Emperor

[@adutchman1403]

Christianity was near instantaneously multinational if you read Paul's letters and the book of acts you will see them traveling to gentiles to convert them quickly after the ascension.

[@Hasanbas-rv3vm]

Paul corrupted christainity

[@NaviRyan]

Also Jesus was pretty open to take converts from wherever.

[@aae7583]

You are correct. The Council of Jerusalem actually addressed what you stated.

[@Stoicsaiyan]

@@NaviRyanhe wasn’t not lol. Jesus IN THE BIBLE is the complete opposite. He died for Israel and Israel only and there salvation was given only to them. It wasn’t u til Paul can AFTER his death (he didn’t even witness it or knew Jesus personally) that he later converted and started going around converting people. Jesus never built a search he preached in synagogues. Paul built the first church not Christ. So most Christins aren’t Christian’s they are more Pauline than anything

[@Darkblender5]

@@Stoicsaiyan It was actually Peter, one of the OG 12 Disciples, who opened the door to converting gentiles after he received a vision from God. Paul was just the first one to *really* put in the work.

[@IncanTek24]

Abrahamic faiths all get along peacefully with no wars. - a different timeline

[@benfleming6936]

Christianity and Judaism got a long just fine until the Anti-Christ arose from Arabia...

[@nikolaosboukouvalas449]

-We disagree on a subject that is of vital importance to our identity, but since we all agree on worshipping the God of Abraham we are going to respect one another and contain our differences to theological arguments and apologetic texts. -Agreed. Can you imagine if we somehow went to war over this?

[@jasonbelstone3427]

@@nikolaosboukouvalas449 ... Okay, but was this Jesus guy of one will and two essences, or a ghostly kinda guy? Not tryna start no trouble or nothing.

[@nikolaosboukouvalas449]

@@jasonbelstone3427 * unsheathes sword with violent intent *

[@thenaiam]

​@@nikolaosboukouvalas449 wow, 4 comments in 😅🫣😵☠️

[@PaoloCarloCayanan]

First Christians were the Jews who followed and believed Jesus

[@benknown1420]

Didn’t Christianity start in Africa

[@faydulaksono]

Correct

[@georgecop9538]

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17

[@goldenapple1754]

“There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses“ Ezekiel 23:20

[@Maxfr8]

Yep, now, we don't follow the Old Law.

[@LordDirus007]

Jesus gave us a New Covenant, however the new covenant doesn't conflict with the Old. It actually goes into more detail, and explain why we follow the Law. For instance Adultery. Jesus goes as far as to say, Lusting after a Woman is Adultery because Sin comes from inside of us. Our Thoughts, our Hearts

[@tatarcavalry2342]

@@LordDirus007 Does Christianity also have hadids like that or you made that up or did you just accept that Jesus wrote the bible by himself not god

[@e4d578]

Spewing BS?

[@robey2516]

I was genuinly asking myself this at work today. Perfect timing. Where we wonder, these guys deliver

[@gregogrady8027]

This is a pretty error riddled video on the topic. I'd encourage you to research the topic on channels that are better informed.

[@mlgdigimon]

@@gregogrady8027not at all. This is a very clear video without a Christian bias

[@Themystergamerr]

You could just ask ChatGPT or any other AI chatbot

[@DsgSleazy]

@@gregogrady8027 Here goes the angry Christian

[@rationalsamrat3247]

You just proved that the algorithm recomends videos by reading minds.

[@KroiAlbanoiArbanon]

The holy judaic-christian war in the comments section will be legendary.

[@sethgaston8347]

Or just not exist, could you imagine 🤣

[@marco_cee_]

Only in your imagination, perhaps.

[@Courtesyyy]

The war in the comments have already began xD

[@ebonymaw8457]

Hardly… Christians and Jews don’t argue much in the internet. If you want to see real comedy, read Muslim vs Jew or Muslim vs Hindu comments. They’re hilarious 😂

[@sketchygetchey8299]

I wonder if Muslims will look at the comments while eating popcorn.

[@abcdef27669]

Absolutely civilized comment section ahead.

[@FunkyMonkMan]

😇

[@fufutul3258]

The funny thing is... if you look very...very...very deeply at it, history is repeating itself.

[@balabanasireti]

Always the same unoriginal comment 😂

[@karolswieboda1781]

It's cute seeing people argue about religion in 2024 as if it wasn't a complete fantasy created to control the masses in less enlightened times.

[@IbnRushd-mv3fp]

Old testament vibes

[@fjibreel]

It’s important to note that Judaism wasn’t one unified religion. It had many different sects, two biggest ones were the temple Jews versus the desert or rural Jews, the essenes. They had a different perspective of Judaism emphasizing the kingdom of god

[@bpi8940]

Why people complaining about BCE and CE? BCE is Before Christ's Era and CE is Christ's Era? What's the problem🤔🤔

[@carolusmagnus1472]

Based 🗿✝️

[@thefisherking78]

@@bpi8940 some people don't feel normal without something to be mad about

[@sketchygetchey8299]

I looked up why the academic community uses BCE and CE, and I agree it does seem a little silly using that in place of BC and AD when other non-Judeo-Christian academics go off of other systems to decide what year it is.

[@Bejunckt]

Or also 'Before the Christian Era' and of the 'Christian Era'

[@Matt-jc2ml]

Common era

[@Mindflayer911]

Id also recommend talking about how early Jews interacting with Zoroastrianism during the Babylonian exile. Quite an interesting topic to me as well.

[@aae7583]

yes, this will be interesting. The Jews during the Babylonian captivity is an interesting time, all around.

[@MrDaftFunk]

Origins of Islam were in Babylon with Jewish Exilarchs. Look it up!

[@JUSLOFI]

That’s when the Pharisee sect was born.

[@legodavid9260]

There's not enough sources to warrant a video of It's own imo

[@BYD-Gold]

And Zoroastrianism was inspired by Hinduism.

[@muazzamshaikh2049]

It was the emphasis on morality rather than on Jewish rituals that made Christianity popular. Jesus pointed to the hypocrisy of the Jews living in his time of over emphasizing on the rituals without giving any concern to follow the high moral laws that Christ brought. Finally Paul began to preach the gospel of Christ to people without needing to follow the Jewish law, although Christians must follow the Ten Commandments.

[@catnappernellie1211]

Christian followed the moral laws that God set in the Old Testament with the only thing being changed outside of worship the things Christ specifically mentioned were different.😊

[@muazzamshaikh2049]

@@catnappernellie1211 I didn't get you

[@shayalynn]

But to be honest, the Pharisees were much more relaxed than the Sadducees who were the priests that often were wealthy and had a much more stricter, legal interpretation of the laws of the Torah.. this is why it doesn’t make sense to me how the Pharisees are portrayed in the Gospels and book of Acts

[@yourfake915]

Your using BCE and CE instead of BC and AD in a video about christianity?

[@KingsandGenerals]

hell yeah

[@Leopard_Star5667]

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[@Leopard_Star5667]

@@Patriarch.Chadimus your god was born? Bruh 💀 god doesn’t have a beginning nor an end

[@HodgePodgeVids1]

@@Leopard_Star5667 Yeah our God was born. That's what the Incarnation was. God, by his power, entered the human expierence by the Virgin Mary. Or are you going to say God is not powerful enough to do such at thing.

[@HodgePodgeVids1]

@@KingsandGenerals Before Christian Era and Christian Era

[@antonindanek9294]

How about mentioning the simple fact that the region was called Judea before the third Jewish revolt? It was not Palestine then. Romans have changed the name.

[@stevenlewis4556]

Was thinking the same thing. They call it Judah like once, but keep referring to it as “Palestine” otherwise. It didn’t become that until the Emperor Hadrian changed it from Judah & Samaria to “Syria-Palestinia” in the 2nd century AD.

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

He calls it “palestine”, because he’s making sure to pander to any muslims who might watch his videos and doesn’t want to offend them by acknowledging that Jews had existed in that land long before the Arabs ever did and that the name of the land wasn’t always referred to as “palestine”

[@antonindanek9294]

​@@SanctusPaulus1962So out of political correctness, e.g. selective thinking. I hope this kind of thinking does not catch... oops.

[@karimmezghiche9921]

They should call it the land of Canaan since the Canaanites lived there long before the Jews were a thing.

[@joecurran2811]

Judah wasn't Jewish

[@gent55a]

First country adopted Christianity as a state religion - Armenia 🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲, 301 AD

[@MahmoudRoshdy0]

From this moment, evil began

[@faiz5922]

Then the Muhammadians and their sex paradise in the afterlife came

[@exgod1]

​@@MahmoudRoshdy0 The pedo guy?

[@benjaminvandenberghe9726]

Peter and Paul begin to allow gentiles without following the dietary and circumcising laws. That set off an explosion of the religion among gentiles. There it is.

[@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185]

Source? Reference?

[@DysfunctionalParrot]

@@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 Book of Acts.

[@benjaminvandenberghe9726]

@@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 The New Testament

[@aae7583]

@@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 Council of Jerusalem is your source , reference. The Council of Jerusalem was the first ecumenical council and addressed EXACTLY what the OP is referencing.

[@aae7583]

👍 Yes. You are correct. Everything you commented was addressed during the Council of Jerusalem. The first Ecumenical Council.

[@ericponce8740]

In the 6th and 7th centuries AD, there was a division between Chalcedonian Christianity and Monophysitism. The Roman Emperor and Patriarch in Constantinople were champions of the former and the latter was practiced in the Eastern Provinces, specifically in Egypt. The division became heated more in the 7th century. When the Arabs conquered the Levant and Eygpt, the church leaders there saw the Arabs (though under the Islamic faith) as liberators from the Roman Emperor and Patriarch in Constantinople.

[@markbotros7508]

Accurate framing

[@obvious-troll]

Thank you for not using “Common Era”🤮

[@ChrisElias5002]

"liberators" ??

[@MrDaftFunk]

There was no such thing as Islam at the time, the Arabs followed a syncretic faith of Babylonian Jewry and Heretical Christianity. They worshipped Exilarchs in Babylon.

[@CpTnot]

​@@ChrisElias5002yes the Coptics were subjugated by the Byzantine.even before Arabs came to Egypt the Coptics were in favour of sasanians over the romans

[@MichaelSmith-ij2ut]

No bananas involved in this split

[@cschandragiri]

Bananas were split in the later religion

[@blazer9547]

Still better than worshipping cow pee 😂​@@cschandragiri

[@cleganebowldog6626]

This was a great video, I've always enjoyed your channel. Right now, in a time when it seems everyone else is getting lazier, your scripts are getting tighter and more interesting. Keep up the great work!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@MrWolfman229]

Pretty good high level overview. My only "gripe" is neglecting Christian traditions like the Ethiopian Tewahado Orthodox Church and how they still onserve a lot of Jewish laws as a cultural practice while being part of the Oriental Orthodox communion. Overall, I appreciate how the video did not steer into controversial points or "pick a side."

[@Numba003]

Thank you for another interesting video. As a Christian, I appreciate these looks at early Christian history. I'm sorry to see so much fussing here in the comments, though. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@abhilashpaul9237]

Amen. ✝️☦️

[@EzraB123]

Love to my Christian brothers ❤️ From an Orthodox Jew

[@Trump2024asw]

God bless Ezra thank you.

[@drthraxx]

Cap

[@EzraB123]

@@drthraxx Found the 4chan user lol

[@jimenagarcia32019]

I love you too brother!! God bless you!! ☦️❤️✡️

[@Dunkleosteusenjoyer]

Is it really brotherhood if you killed dad and renounced grandpa?

[@thiagosoares9216]

Correction Judea not Palestine. The name was given after they destroyed the temple.

[@KingsandGenerals]

No

[@majesticmarilag533]

Why? Isn't Palestine referred to greek see people?​@@KingsandGenerals

[@rigelpido6115]

@@KingsandGenerals So who is the King of Palestine After the Greeks or the Capital>? History? you are definitely trolling here.

[@RakibulIslam-xk8jd]

Learn history or you may have been leaning the wrong one.

[@PhilipLaSnail]

@@majesticmarilag533 No these were the Philisteans, Palestine is the Roman name given to the region after they burned the second temple in order to wipe the Jewish identity in this land. The Palestinians however became a thing only in the 7 century.

[@michaelflynn7055]

Long story Short, the Old Testament prophesied that God would give fallen humanity a Messiah from Abraham, more specifically from the Tribe of Judah. Jesus claimed to be that Messiah, and proved it with miracles during his life, and fulfilling over 300 prophecies that were written in the OT. He took on the punishment for our sins, and God the father raised him up. .

[@karimmezghiche9921]

Where does the OT call humanity "fallen"? And where does it say that the Messiah will die for anyone's sins? And where does it say that God is a Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit ?

[@michaelflynn7055]

@@karimmezghiche9921 Numerous, but you can read about the fall in Genesis 3, and regarding the Messiah, numerous passages, but a poignant passage can be found in Isiah 53,

[@jojo4522]

@@michaelflynn7055 Name one prophecy that was true

[@dacarrico]

The last time I was this early, there was only one Abrahamic faith.

[@darkrieshunter6670]

There really isn’t one, as early Judaism if we can even call it that wasn’t really unified with different interpretations and doctrine. As it evolved and consolidated through the years it would emerge into different sect like Samaritan and etc. the Judaism that we would begin to recognize emerge after the destruction of the second temple and even then it would evolved. People adapt and change their religion to suit their personal needs and identity not the other way around

[@wave_breakr]

@@darkrieshunter6670 I’m pretty sure he just means the people who were upon whatever Abraham was upon. Obviously as a prophet, everybody who would have followed him would have been a believer of monotheism, united under his guidance. Today there’s dispute over Jesus (rejected as a prophet by Jews, accepted as a prophet by Muslims, and some dispute over Christians if he was just a prophet, lord, or God). And ofc Muslims believe in a final prophet and revelation/scripture of God. Some converted during his time. Today Jews and Christians disbelieve in his prophecy of course. What I personally find most fascinating is that both Christians and Muslims believe Jesus will return. And while Jews reject Jesus specifically, they’re still awaiting the coming of the Messiah. Which is also very similar to the Arabic word Jesus is referred to in the Quran if I’m not mistaken. It’s fascinating. What seems inevitable is that when Jesus returns the truth will be clarified, if we live to see that day.

[@darkrieshunter6670]

@@wave_breakr the Arabian peninsula has been home to ancient Jewish and Christian communities, I think Muhammad own grandmother was from an Arabian Jewish tribe. People forgot how interconnected the world in the past is. Ironically this would make Muhammad partly Jewish and would be the second major jewish guy to found a world religion after Jesus

[@balabanasireti]

Dead joke

[@MacrobianNomad]

@@darkrieshunter6670precisely this, even the Jewish Origin story wasn’t a unified narrative as the Old Testament claims. While we got the story of the 12 sons and the Israelites in relation to Egypt from the Northern Kingdom/Samaria, the Kingdom of Judah had its origin story by looking eastwards towards Mesopotamia.

[@andrewculbreth7302]

The most controversial thing in this video is the pronunciation of Saducees

[@SlippyBiz]

They were sad, you see.

[@danielhooke6115]

12:50 And "Ignatius". 🙃

[@RandyJGJ]

But no, I ran for this comment. 😂 I had the rewind, because who? 😅

[@Glatix]

Saducees nuts

[@gregogrady8027]

This video was obviously poorly researched and would have benefited massively from having someone who was actually knowledgeable on this topic review the video throughout the production process.

[@teyhacruz1001]

If we are talking about early Christianity, then Judah and not Palestine would be the correct word to use for this region at that particular time

[@thebritishgamer836]

Nope, the region of land itself was Palestine, no matter what governing structure ruled it at the time. Roman's too. Cope and seethe

[@teyhacruz1001]

@@thebritishgamer836 the Roman's changed it after the second Jewish rebellion, and the Romans renamed Judah Palestine after the philistine to mock the jews because the philistine's were the Jewish people's arch enemy.

[@teyhacruz1001]

@@thebritishgamer836 also no one called Judah or Israel Palestine until the occupiers, aka the Romans, kicked out the indigenous Jewish people out of the region that's why they're Jewish communities all over Europe and the Middle East until after WW2

[@teyhacruz1001]

@@thebritishgamer836 also no one called Judah or Israel Palestine until the occupiers, aka the Romans, kicked out the indigenous Jewish people out of the region that's why they're Jewish communities all over Europe and the Middle East until after WW2

[@teyhacruz1001]

@@thebritishgamer836 also no one called Judah or Israel Palestine until the occupiers, aka the Romans, kicked out the indigenous Jewish people out of the region that's why they're Jewish there were communities all over Europe and the Middle East

[@krimzon7622]

"Salutations my brethren, how goes the...BY THE EMPEROR"

[@bvillafuerte179]

Felipe VI of Spain, by the grace of God, emperor of the Romans and king of Jerusalem.

[@mawelsalah4217]

⁠@@bvillafuerte179Sultan Suleiman I the True Emperor of Rome, Caliph of Islam and Protector of the Holysites of Mecca, Madina, and Jerusalem🏴🕋☪️

[@sdagoth3037]

There's a great book I once read about this topic: 'Disciples: How Jewish Christianity Shaped Jesus and Shattered the Church'. Though the title is a bit melodramatic and was clearly intended to sell the book; the author doesn't really claim that the Jewish Christians were particularly responsible for the early divisions in the church.

[@Gen.berseker25]

Video idea: Jews in Ancient Persia

[@dubseason717]

The ebionites did not influence islam, the sect was extinct by the 4th century CE and there was no presence of them in Arabia whatsoever

[@clivejungle6999]

Second Temple Judaism spits after the destruction of the Second Temple. Rabbinic Judaism and orthodox Christianity are just two of the splinters that emerge from that tradition. They have been the most enduring.

[@deluxehipster8714]

>Talks about Christianity >Uses CE/BCE

[@KingsandGenerals]

Yes

[@deluxehipster8714]

@@KingsandGenerals Understandable.

[@thinkinaboutpolitics]

>Talks about Christianity in an academic manner >Used academically correct terms

[@finrodfelagund8668]

@@KingsandGenerals Before Christ's Era/Christ's Era

[@emmiannon1266]

You want to use an impartial academic terminology when talking about topics which hold the potential for much controvasy and argument.

[@Scipio_Mexicanus]

Why have you guys started using BCE/CE instead of the traditional BC/AD? All of your older videos use BC/AD, so I'm genuinely curious what your rationale behind the switch is.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Modern historiography is switching to this format more and more, so it makes sense for a historical channel to follow suit.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Aw give it a rest, tired of these trölls. This is the third one. Please ban them.

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@KingsandGenerals👏👏👏

[@Biggydiggly]

​@@nhmooytis7058 Quit using the Christian calendar then.

[@zombieoverlord5173]

​@@BiggydigglyIt's a modified Roman calender. Calender's and dating systems build off of each other and change. You don't own the god damn calender

[@luisgomes6407]

Before Jews Revolted, there was no land name palestine. Only kingdom of judea and kingdom of Israel.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Cool. Time travelling Herodotus and Egyptians and Mesopotamians.

[@michaeldunne338]

Would be interesting to see a video on Manichaeanism. It was once a competitor to Christianity in the third century; Augustine was a Manichaean at one time; and Diocletian instituted some serious repression of Manichaeans at the same time of the Great Persecution of Christians; and that repression of Manichaeanism was revived under Christian emperors, like Gratian and Theodosius.

[@michaelthomas5433]

I saw Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ.

[@dukekenny9340]

And then I read mein Führer‘s book

[@michaelmoran2125]

Right there's no mention of Jesus being killed by the Rabbis of Jerusalem... honestly this just propaganda.

[@michaelmoran2125]

Theyre censoring this topic. But the Pharisees killed the Lord 😢

[@Gigas0101]

My deepest condolences.

[@greysnake2903]

I saw Mad Max

[@AdrianBoyko]

I must have missed the memo about the Sadducees rebranding as Sad Dookies. 😵‍💫

[@gregogrady8027]

They really need to spend a little more time on a topic like this to get some of the most basic information right.

[@Leah-i1e]

Lol. Could be a band, too.

[@UriSteiff]

Jewish guy here, haven't started watching the video yet, but Christians - I'm all for us staying friends even if we're not together anymore. You know, keeping it Platonic - sorry, Abrahamic.

[@EAGLE29-TIME]

"So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews? Islam saved Jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth.... Had Islam not come along, Jewry in the west would have declined to disappearance and Jewry in the east would have become just another oriental cult" The Jewish Chronicle, May 24, 2012 15:56

[@ishmamahmed9306]

Folks who believe that Jesus is the Messiah, with Christians and Muslims being the majority of such folks, ought to be accepting of people who do not share their belief that Jesus is the Messiah

[@sethgaston8347]

The orthodoxy disagrees for good reasons. Most Christians have no discipline and devote very time to studying their texts and theological history. Ask a Christian who Saint Benedict is

[@Volkmargrim]

Your holy book would say otherwise unless you are a Karaite

[@carrieohio]

​@@EAGLE29-TIMEand if not for apostasy laws, Islam would crumble to dust.

[@LiamDCPearson]

"He also gave an illustration to them: “Nobody cuts a patch from a new outer garment and sews it on an old garment. If he does, then the new patch tears away and the patch from the new garment does not match the old. Also, no one puts new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the wineskins and it will be spilled out and the wineskins will be ruined." Luke 5:36-37 Jesus set out from the beginning that what he was teaching was meant to be a new way of worshiping God, not some patchnotes or updates to Judaism. It was meant to be different from the beginning

[@RobertH1971]

Rabbi Tovia Singer on KZbin makes great videos explaining the differences between Judaism and Christianity, if anyone wants to study this topic further.

[@johnnybrave7443]

One for Israel does a good job differentiating b/w christianity and rabbinic Judaism

[@HodgePodgeVids1]

Except he completely misses the ball on Jesus being the Messiah

[@BongBing11]

Wasn't he a topic of an Inspiring Philosophy video way back when?

[@edward1412]

Tovia Singer is a hater of Christians. One for Israel is a Messianic Jewish channel so they explain things better.

[@merajsodha6089]

Now add part two about the third abrahamic religion

[@glps6167]

The oldest church building archaeologists found dates from the 2nd century A.D. In the early days of Christianity, Christians and Jews shared the synagogues for religious services. The Jews celebrate the Sabbath on Saturdays, the newcomers (Christians) held their weekly celebrations on Sundays.

[@patrickblanchette4337]

Thank you for this beautiful and kind video about theological history.

[@AsherShmuel]

It was not called Palestine yet .

[@thebritishgamer836]

The wahmbulance is on its way

[@AsherShmuel]

@@thebritishgamer836 😁

[@Brandon-bc1fz]

Thanks captain obvious.

[@AsherShmuel]

@@Brandon-bc1fz 🤔

[@mango2005]

There are some differences of interpretation even where there is overlap. For example in Chrstianity the commandment "thou shalt not kill" is "thou shall not murder" in Judaism.

[@ElDannySA91]

It's "thou shall not murder" in multiple Bible translations as well.

[@soumyadiptamajumder8795]

Rabbinic Judaism is pretty much “Judaism” to all intents and purposes. Almost all existing forms of Judaism are rabbinic. Rabbinic Judaism is based on rabbinic scholarship and the tradition based on both the written and oral Torah (Talmud). The only other types of Judaism that exist are Karaite Judaism (which rejects both the rabbinate and the Talmud and allows individuals to interpret the written Torah as they see fit) and Haymanot (Ethiopian) Judaism, which also has no rabbis or Talmud but instead focuses on the “kes” (priest) who interpret the written Torah for the community. The Karaites were once a reasonably large group located mainly in Egypt, Baghdad, and İstanbul as well as in the Crimea and Lithuania but now there are just a few thousands of them left. Many of te Ethiopian Jews have adopted rabbinic Judaism and abandoned their own version. Rabbinic Judaism has also given birth to modernist movements that are, in many ways, “post-rabbinic”. Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism still have rabbis but they do not serve the same function as orthodox rabbis and their rulings are not considered binding or definitive. Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism tends to see both Torah and Talmud as human-made tradition to be respected but not slavishly followed, rather than divine revelation and rabbis are more like community leaders than authorities on Jewish law (most of which is seen as optional and open to debate). İn ancient times, there were other varieties of Judaism (Saducees, Essenes etc) but none of these survived after the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE.

[@AduckButSpain]

"Rabbinic Judaism" is "Second Temple-Judaism" but without the temple, so they just changed some rules. Like instead of donating to the temple, donate for the poor and weak.

[@brekicpt9451]

@@AduckButSpain they don't have priesthood no more and dont do sacrifices

[@AduckButSpain]

@@brekicpt9451 Yeah... again... because there is not temple. If the temple will be rebuilt than yeah...

[@brekicpt9451]

@@AduckButSpain would they though?

[@AduckButSpain]

@@brekicpt9451 Do you mean why wouldn't? Because there will be WW3 that's why.

[@lib-center96]

Relief in a sense, as long as Jews and Christians paid the Jizya and remained deferred to their Muslim rulers, took no Muslim slaves, but could still be slaves of Muslims. Not to mention the zero relief for Jews in the Arabian Peninsula that were killed or driven out...

[@lefunnyN1]

they split when a certain group crucified Jesus

[@gregogrady8027]

No shit captain obvious. How KaG missed this fact is just astounding.

[@ramoncastilla2923]

True.

[@patrickpoer4643]

I'm not sure why you have to call it Palestine? It was not called Palestine prior to Rome conquering the land, it was called Judah. You take your time in other videos to called Constantinople, Constantinople instead of constantly saying Istanbul in context to the timeline. There is no need to called it Palestine before it was concord by the Romans.

[@thebritishgamer836]

Cope and seethe

[@patrickpoer4643]

@thebritishgamer836 it is only historical accurate, I suppose we should go through all the history books and say the Byzantine empire was in Istanbul and Constante founded Istanbul.

[@samchapa4203]

The 1st Century CE: JUDEA NOT PALESTINE. Judea would be renamed Palaestina in 132 CE after the 3rd Roman Jewish War.

[@thebritishgamer836]

Zionist tears taste so good

[@billpollard5051]

I pulled this up. I will watch this maybe tonight.

[@kavkazip]

The Book of Matthew lets us know where Jesus was born. Matthew 2: "After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod" Matthew 2:20 “Get up, take the child and his mother and go to the land of Israel, for those who were trying to take the child’s life are dead.”

[@ra77645]

Fun facts to you sir: 1. Regarding you second quote from Mathew, this one time, isolated use of the phrase "Land of Israel" to refer to the area surrounding Jerusalem is unusual, as most books of the New Testament use "Land of Judea." There are many hypotheses regarding this wrong use of the phrase. One of the most acceptable is the insertion of the text in much later date. 2. Did you know that King Herod the Great is of Idumaean origin (Nabataean / Arab origin) who's ancestors converted to Judaism.

[@kavkazip]

@@ra77645 land of Israel is referenced many times in the Bible and it doesn't mean a small area around Jerusalem . You anti Zionist creeps keep distorting history to fit into your Russian KGB created modern "Palestinian" fake history that never existed .

[@mysteriousDSF]

Not trying to extend this into a modern political debate but wasn't the word Palestine first used by the Romans after the destruction of the second temple in 70AD? Before that, only Philistine existed - a thousand years before that. So I don't see any reasoning behind the region being referred to as "Palestine" before 70 AD

[@KingsandGenerals]

No

[@KingsandGenerals]

@@gedaliaw thing were happening before Hadrian. He wasn't the first person who did a thing.

[@VictorianEra.]

I do wish you would once again use AD, and BC for the dating system.

[@redvelvetcakie]

perfect timing for rosh hashanah lovely touch

[@mlucasGrindstone]

There were no Jews in Palestine, there was no Palestine. Philistine, canaan, Israel, the Levant Maybe

[@thebritishgamer836]

So many angry comments like this. Love to see it XD

[@jamesforreal]

I love a logical and ethical breakdown of history. I'm not here to debate, just here to fulfill. Thanks, Kings and Generals!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@norsie45]

Can You do a video about the Kitos war and Bar-Kochva Revolt?

[@andrewternet8370]

Sam Aronow did a good video on it

[@amanabout]

I stand with and Bless Israel. KZbin might delete this comment but I still stand with Y'Ishrael.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Do you need to pretend to be a victim? No one is deleting your comment.

[@IbnRushd-mv3fp]

Don't stand where the rockets are dropping ✌

[@ShawnEspinoza-v1w]

Difficult subject to tackle, mostly accurate. Excellent job!

[@williamanderson3185]

Christianity was never a cult. Two thousand years later, we see it is The Way to Salvation and Eternal Life.

[@abhilashpaul9237]

Greetings to my Christian ✝️ ☦️ brothers and sisters around the World. 💐

[@purchase8325]

I've been watching your vids for years now, and as someone in the historical sciences let me just say, well done

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@chrisb9996]

As someone who’s Jewish and has Christian friends and relatives, I really found this interesting. Thanks for making this video.

[@Ghostrex101]

👎🏻

[@bulkierwriter2772]

@@Ghostrex101Jesus of NAZARETH

[@giuseppe_M]

YOU ONLY KEEP THEM AROUND BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS TO PAY RETAIL AND PAY INTEREST .

[@edward1412]

The video is full of half-truth.

[@kcato5879]

You use CE and BCE, but we all know what the commonality is.

[@shino4833]

I read that as Christ Era and Before Christ Era.

[@dhimankalita1690]

​@@shino4833 u read wrong

[@lilpenny1982]

I agree 💯 Zionists always want to change history for their benefit

[@tatarcavalry2342]

Commonality of what Europe is the smallest continent Chinese Japanese Turks Arabs Indians do not use it

[@KingsandGenerals]

That is the point. We don't know the exact year.

[@jesseberg3271]

Happy Rosh Hashanah everyone, and a very good 5785 to all.

[@christianflores3119]

Happy Rosh Hashanah I hope you have a sweet new year

[@ChrisTheLoneWanderer]

A very happy Rosh Hashanah!!! May the New Year bring joy and happiness to all!!!

[@geordiejones5618]

Is there any extant calendar older than the Hebrew one? Crazy longevity.

[@asliddinochilov4341]

Happy 7563 according to Alien calendar

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

Adonai Eluheinu.

[@PJump]

great well researched vid. you make history fun and not boring/dry - its a breeze to learn like this.

[@leon19736]

Nobody was calling this area Palestine when 2 religions split. It was called Jehudeia. Only 2-3 centuris after that Romans named it Palestine

[@ChrisElias5002]

Judea*

[@SSMasseus]

same with ototmans to palestin.

[@MalcolmXBlvd]

This video called the land Palestine which is in context with the time of Christianity. in the Old Testament, there are several references to the Philistines, who inhabited the region known as Philistia, which corresponds to modern-day Palestine. The Philistines were a people who interacted with the ancient Israelites. The Romans did indeed expel the Jews, and the Jews hence were desirous of a Messiah who could handle the Romans, because their fight was with the Romans, not the Palestinians. Ancient claims to land are interesting, like the Native Indians who feel they were America's first inhabitants, so I guess they could use a messiah to.

[@nenenindonu]

Who even cares ? The term mesopotamia didn't exist in Sumerian times either yet noone would be bothered by the use of it when refering to the Sumerian period

[@1097-n7p]

romans did not invent the name palestina , ancient greeks called it Palaistinê and the Latin Palaestina ancient Greek historian Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories. so the name palestina is populare much long before your false claims. judea is just an area in the bigger palestina .

[@Caligulashorse1453]

Not exactly….. I am getting a major in theology and a minor and Church history and I don’t think this video is completely correct…

[@zombieoverlord5173]

Do you think your sources might be biased or taking a different interpretation?

[@BongBing11]

Yeah, portraying Christianity as something that 'budded off' of Judaism is a widespread myth

[@joecurran2811]

Enlighten us then...

[@DominikKoppensteiner]

10:53 The Christians didn't really "develop" their view of Jesus as God. They believed, that Jesus is God, already in the first century. Paul's letters, especially the letter to the Hebrews, are an early witness. John wrote his Gospel quite late towards the end of the 1st century, and calls Jesus God. (That is unless one twists or simply ignores the proof texts.)

[@justchilling704]

Yeah, the idea of God being multi-person is in the Old Testament and was a known thing in 2nd Temple Judaism. They very well knew Jesus was claiming to be God. Hence the high priest tearing his robes when Jesus claimed to be the “Son of Man”.

[@franciscojorgesousaandrade]

I see another video rich in information, facts, chronology and culture that I really like on this channel. I don't waste time discussing information corrections, but I appreciate how much work it would have taken to bring this complete video. I even come to charge since you touched on the subject of these Gnostic sects such as the Ebionites and Elkesiates, how the first influenced Islam and the second created the first global religion, Manichaeism, and how these sects interacted with the Judeo-Christian communities. It would also be interesting to see the impact of Islam when encountering these Gnostic sects, especially Manichaeism, since both considered their prophets as the sacred seal.

[@MacrobianNomad]

I was coming to make a similar comment, perfectly put thank you!

[@la_estudiante]

yeah that was an interesting piece for me and what I spent the next couple of hours reading about after watching this. there are many similarities between doctrine of the Elkesiates and Islam, from the physical description of the angel who delivered the book to the way they viewed Jesus as a messiah.

[@flackstar007]

In my mind it simplifies to a difference of self interest. This also applies to splits within the faith into sub-denominations and many of these being taught to be hostile to others of conflicting sub-denominations in order to preserve their personal views from being influenced by the other.

[@MuhammedKadirYILDIRAK]

Not all people living in Judea were jews. According to Abrahamic teachings all Prophets carry the message of God most of whom were sent to Jews and while some prophets carried the previous message some others like Jesus(pbuh) were given scriptures. So just because he was born in that region doesn't make him a jew. Christianity was a distinct religion historically and it was opposed by the Jews of that era at first hand rather than Romans. Christian scholars and historicans knew this fact. And your precise timing of spinning false propaganda reveals who actually funds you

[@shayalynn]

Christianity was a distinct religion historically? But this is false. It emerged as a messianic sect of Judaism. And no one claims Jesus was a Jew solely because he was born in the land of Judea. He was Jewish all around - participated in all the festivals, feasts, customs and rites of what we know as Judaism

[@nevarmaor]

I've never really understood the claims that Judaism is a major religion. It is an ancient tribal/regional religion, one of many from the time period, and remains so to this day (more so tribal than regional). It is the ancestor of two major religions. That doesn't make it a major one.

[@arisorokin]

Islam and Christianity won’t exist without Judaism. So much has been plagerized from the Jewish tradition. Christianity simply applies Greek and Roman philosophy and religious tropes to Judaism and Islam made Christianity more monotheistic and less Trinity related

[@dinrealdin]

For people asking on why the vid use BCE & CE format remember that Jesus was born at least four years before 1 A.D making the marking event off by some years and only 32% of the world is Christians. Saying Jesus is born in 4 B.C means he was born 4 years before he was born.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thing is we are not even sure it was 3 BC. There is a range of 6-7 years various historians use.

[@MLM68]

No one knows when dude, and if you read all the gospels no one can agree on what time or day he died.

[@gregogrady8027]

@@MLM68 A simple google search and some light reading on the topic usually clarifies 99% of misunderstandings and false assertions such as these.

[@Leah-i1e]

Lol, the Jews didn't live in Palestine. They lived in Judea.

[@thebritishgamer836]

Cope? Seethe a lil maybe?

[@davidb007..]

@@thebritishgamer836go back to where you came from transplant boy 🤮

[@davidb007..]

@@thebritishgamer836you pollute europe

[@Jerome18921]

@@thebritishgamer836bro the entire situation was your fault 💀

[@ruhikarakurt4636]

Bro,sacking of Jerusalem?Hadrian?renaming judea to palestine?

[@thelegacyvaultchannel]

This video provides such a clear and thorough explanation of the complex relationship between Judaism and Christianity. Thank you for shedding light on such an important topic!

[@KingsandGenerals]

Thanks!

[@Anglomachian]

I’m glad this topic is being discussed. I’ve tried to explain the early history of Christianity to some people, but modern denominations often don’t like it being spoken of in quite so much detail.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@vianneyferrand2893]

Really nice video, from a roman catholic !

[@edwardwong654]

As a child of Abrahamic faith, this is fascinating.

[@EAGLE29-TIME]

Moses: Hear O Israel, Lord, our God is one. Jesus: Hear O Israel, Lord, our God is one. Muhammad: Say: God is One. Peace, be upon them all.

[@mantheman11]

​@@EAGLE29-TIME Jesus would deny Muhammad had he lived in his times, Muhammad's in hell

[@EAGLE29-TIME]

@@mantheman11 Both are messengers of God, peace be upon them.

[@mantheman11]

@@EAGLE29-TIME Muhammad isn't, hes in hell

[@EAGLE29-TIME]

@@mantheman11 Why do you say that? May Allah soften your troubled heart and guide us all to the straight path.

[@paul5475]

Correction the region is still called Province of Judea not yet Palestine.

[@vishal7arora]

Correction: It was called Palaistine by the ancient greeks as part of Syria.

[@Josh.G.McN.]

Yeah it was renamed to Palestine after the Romans expelled the Jews as an insult. Naming their land after their ancient enemies the Philistines

[@inoovator3756]

@@vishal7aroraYes the colonizing Greeks called it that while the natives called it judea

[@anthonypie9509]

​@@DunkenMyDonutslies spreading continues but people can read and research nowadays no more church's lies

[@Tribune_of_Italia]

The province was named Judea, but the general region was known as Palestina/Palestine (even before the province's area was renamed)

[@cpom5075]

I applaud you guys for uploading this specific topic during a very turbulent time

[@talbarami12632123]

The name of the land back then as given by the Romans was - PALESTINA. with A at the end. Please check your sources. It is a bit embarrassing.

[@KingsandGenerals]

Romans did not speak English? Wow

[@talbarami12632123]

@@KingsandGenerals The name in UK English is "Palestina" as well. Didn't you know? wow

[@internaut2]

The sources are conflicted on this subject. It's a bit embarrassing for you to assume you're right about a murky subject

[@alviannasrullah2431]

If you want to know what Qur'an view about two of them, here it is, Qur'an 4:153-175. It tells us that Jew has breaking the covenant because of they killed their prophets, disbelief on the sign of God, saying against Mary a great slander, and trial to kill Messiah, Jesus Christ

[@carllucas89]

As a Christian, nobody cares about what the f1lthy Quran says.

[@IshSheva]

AD*

[@tatarcavalry2342]

pathetic

[@Mae4Ever]

Did you just purposely made Christian behind a red color with a christian who looks angry while the jewish guy is behind a calming blue that looks mature? I sense bias.

[@KingsandGenerals]

It is in your head, but you are free to think what you want.

[@Mae4Ever]

@@KingsandGenerals The thumbnail says otherwise.

[@nikolaosboukouvalas449]

@@Mae4Ever Did you watch the video? The channel is usually very fair in it's portrayal of Christianity, which is something that is both rare and to be encouraged.

[@Mae4Ever]

@@nikolaosboukouvalas449 Then why didn't he use A.D/B.C? Wouldn't it be fair, and make sense to use that since it acknowledge Jesus while the other method doesn't?

[@GeneralCalculus]

​@@Mae4Ever CE originally invented by christian thinkers to refer to "era common to christians (and I think jews)" as opposed to regnal years "3rd year of Wilhelm 4th's rule".

[@Koifin3]

I imagine they split when they stopped agreeing on who the Messiah was.

[@obviousbait4277]

The relationship between the Abrahamic faiths and rome is fascinating Jews: genocided by rome Christians: persecuted by rome and later became rome Muslims: conquered and destroyed rome

[@da_pawz]

you mean Constantinople? not Rome?

[@onemoreminute0543]

​@@da_pawzSame thing (Nova Roma)

[@obviousbait4277]

@@da_pawz i mean the roman empire

[@WapitalismandWreedom]

Rome kinda conquered and destroyed itself tbf

[@silentbyte196]

Ottomans: Became rome 2

[@arielg.2681]

You made one mistake. The area you keep referring to as "Palestine" was called Judea by the Romans until they renamed it in 136CE.

[@rockyblacksmith]

A place can have multiple names, and as others here have already pointed out, the name Palestine was used for the region centuries before the emergence of christianity.

[@jojo4522]

​@@rockyblacksmith Actually the only place called "Palestine" for centuries was only today's Gaza strip. It was back in the day when Herodotus named the land. As a geographical stand point it was mainly Samaria Judea and Idumea

[@thebritishgamer836]

Cope and seethe

[@ahmvedakeel]

@@jojo4522it’s literally not true and ur Judea and Samaria are just biblical fake nations that never existed.

[@rigelpido6115]

@@rockyblacksmith Palestine was Philistia only limited to the Mediterranean portion sounds mockingly to the Jews that Revolted against the Romans.

[@halfmoon2488]

It is AD not CE!

[@jasperpluk]

AD = Anno Domini... or translated "The year of our lord".... so it's not wrong...

[@emmiannon1266]

One shouldnt get upset about specific wording, but instead pay attention to the overall subject. Disagreements over small details has led to many pointless conflicts in the past and, in my oppinion at least, one of mankinds greatest flaws.

[@AmirSatt]

CE is more universal than AD. Not all people who use Gregorian calendar are christian

[@demystify1567]

@@AmirSatt what event in history determines the split between CE and BCE?

[@gormealbortrude5841]

@emmiannon1266 "stop caring about it let's just make everything soulless!" Is not an argument. Nu-western bastardization has corrupted your mind

[@somkenechukwueluma6438]

What's the soundtrack name at 11:38

[@MoBahar687]

2 Pac - Thuggin Roman

[@zdrux]

CHRIST IS KING...btw

[@zombieoverlord5173]

No

[@njnikusha]

​@@zombieoverlord5173get lost loser

[@mistmanjones3555]

Cool video! I’d love it if you guys did one on Saturday vs Sunday and how the days of worship changed along with the early church and how latter Protestant movements like Adventists and Lollards viewed the shift.

[@JPhillips19877]

It’s BC and AD. Get your facts right.

[@KingsandGenerals]

"facts"

[@JPhillips19877]

@@KingsandGenerals facts

[@GeneralCalculus]

CE originally invented by christian thinkers to refer to "era common to christians (and I think jews)" as opposed to regnal years "3rd year of Wilhelm 4th's rule".

[@L154N4LG4IB]

@@JPhillips19877”facts”

[@Sebastian_77777]

The region in that age was called Judea, not Palestine.

[@Angel.Custodio]

By the Romans?

[@ra77645]

You are wrong. The name Palestine is the most commonly used name from the Late Bronze age (from ~ 1300 BC) of this land. Check Herodotus (5th century BCE), Aristotle, and Josephus (and many others). They all called it Palestine.

[@kavkazip]

@@Angel.Custodio yes the roman province of Judea was later changed after the Jewish revolt to the province of Palestine .

[@nathanaelpereira5207]

Wrong. Judea was a province in the region called Palestine. Even Jewish historians referenced it like this.

[@kavkazip]

@@nathanaelpereira5207 No Jewish historians referenced it like that. The land has always been called the land of Israel by everyone. Egyptian Steele mentions Israel and that was almost 2000 bc. Palestine is a European colonial name not an indegenous name to that land. The only country that has been in that land was Israel, Judah, Judea and modern Israel. Canaan is debatable too but that was not a country with a centeralized government but a group of clans . Stop trying to make it seem like modern "Palestinians" are somehow connected to that land when no one there was Arab Muslim but Jewish Israelites. There were no "Palestinian" people in history until 100 years ago until the Arabs hijacked that name that has nothing to do with them.

[@crazydinosaur8945]

the fact that i only see people get mad at the use of CE/BCE instead of AD means that the video as a whole must be pretty watertight info wise, since that's the only part the "zealots" seem to be able to attack

[@KingsandGenerals]

This is a video on a religious topic, so we understand how some events can be open to interpretation. But, overall, yeah, many people go for the meaningless things.

[@thefisherking78]

The most important thing to know about Christianity is that, no matter which interpretation of it you hold to, mine is the correct one 😜

[@CmdrDingus]

No! MINE is Correct!

[@thefisherking78]

@@CmdrDingus the Judean People's Front would like a word!

[@CmdrDingus]

@@thefisherking78 what have the Romans ever done for us?

[@thefisherking78]

@@CmdrDingus 🤣😂🤣

[@mleadenham1]

@@thefisherking78 SPLITTERS!