Crusades From the Muslim Perspective - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY

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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of medieval era, as well as the history of Islam and the Crusades, continues with a video on the Crusades from the Muslim perspective, as we try to see how the Islamic world and its scholars reacted to the Crusades to the Holy Land.
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@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
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@trinoyliniray1336
@trinoyliniray1336 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest Asheke Rasul (Ashek means lover)(the one who love Prophet Muhammad S.A.W the most after loving God) of this age went to a wedding party in a slightly muddy dress. Seeing this, the doorman pushed him hard and threw him on the ground and started cursing him. The greatest lover of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W (of this age) told the doorman that he was invited to the wedding ceremony politely.Although he was a young man, he did not take revenge on the doorman. When the doorman started apologizing (calling that young man as "Sir") to That young man as he has done very bad behaviour with that man(without knowing that he was invited) .But the young and strong man politely hugged the doorman and said, "You are my sir, because I have just come to eat.But You are guarding such a big wedding house burning in the sun. Your mind is very soft. Maybe for some reason you are in a little trouble. You can tell me. "When the doorman started crying, the young man wiped away the tears of that doorman.This is real Islam. The people who love Prophet Muhammad (SAW) the most after loving God(one and only) the most(they believe in peace, not in Violence). So do research about Islam and do not believe the false.... **Love is not a sin. However, Islam has never given anyone the right to threaten the life of a girl or a boy by pretending to love her for months, year after year (with the intention))for not marrying a girl or a boy. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: It is necessary for every believing man and woman to acquire (knowledge). -(Sunan Ibn Majah)...However, it cannot be done through obscenity by violating the veil. Islam will never tolerate violation of womens' right.. Islam has kept women away from all dangers with absolute compassion. Islam will not take responsibility for those who make mistakes. When women's rights are violated, Islam roars like a lion.(which normal people can not see) .
@toko125
@toko125 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about the battle of Didgori and David the Builder? The Battle of Didgori was fought between the armies of the Kingdom of Georgia and the Great Seljuq Empire
@user-vr5sc7zj1s
@user-vr5sc7zj1s 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of Muslim content on this channel, is it something because of your patreons?
@SafavidAfsharid3197
@SafavidAfsharid3197 2 жыл бұрын
Any plan on making a video on indian history again? Maybe on 1805 siege of bharatpur?
@Kennyov93
@Kennyov93 2 жыл бұрын
One notion. You should say catholic states instead of christian states, as crusades were waged against christians as well. The Waldensians were one of the christian groups that were persecuted by the catholic church
@sankarchaya
@sankarchaya 2 жыл бұрын
I love the brutal simplicity of medieval and early modern ethnography. Europeans tended to call all Middle Eastern Muslims "Turks", and it also turns out people in the Middle East just called European Christians "Franks".
@Dragonman998
@Dragonman998 2 жыл бұрын
Nomenclature in Aniquity and Medieval age is very debatable and problematic to comprehend and study because that was very beggining of concept of naming stereotypisation of the unknown cultures. Muslims no matter what ethnicity depend on historical age are called variously by non-muslims. In christian Europe they were known as "Saracens"; "Moors"; "Turks", etc. In other hand Christians were called "Rum" (Rhomeian/Greek) and "Frank" (Probably name for all Catholics).
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 2 жыл бұрын
Either Franks or Latins. Look at Age of Empires, Europeans were always either Franks or Teutons.
@joellaz9836
@joellaz9836 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the majority of crusaders were French and if not French then they were German or English. Slavic and other type of crusaders were rare.
@Gubalicious
@Gubalicious 2 жыл бұрын
We await the coming of Turkish Frank, he will unite us all
@esti-od1mz
@esti-od1mz 2 жыл бұрын
Some still do this. In Sicily the elders call all middle-easterns and Northafricans "turks", especially in Palermo
@adriansz343
@adriansz343 2 жыл бұрын
What really took the cake was at 8:59, when the graphic showing al-Qalanisi chronicling the crusades went right to left, because Arabic is written right to left. Outstanding attention to detail as always! You guys deliver once again!
@Ezzpuffs
@Ezzpuffs 2 жыл бұрын
most Semitic languages are like this. Hebrew is like this as well
@ivokantarski6220
@ivokantarski6220 2 жыл бұрын
As a person born in Orthodox Christian European country Bulgaria where along with most if not all of Europe its written left to right so with right hand it's funny cause I use the left hand to write.
@Ezzpuffs
@Ezzpuffs 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivokantarski6220 Ya i was going to say try writing as a lefty
@larcomj
@larcomj 2 жыл бұрын
i was just about to comment on that when i saw this....... Kings and Generals showing their amazingness again.
@josh77577
@josh77577 2 жыл бұрын
the kings and general team are muslims and I believe Arabs themselves.
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 Жыл бұрын
"They saw Europe as a cold, savage place covered in mist." Accurate.
@Mitrandhir
@Mitrandhir Жыл бұрын
Not true 😒😡
@thebottleofkovalskia4438
@thebottleofkovalskia4438 Жыл бұрын
@@Mitrandhir true😡
@concept5631
@concept5631 Жыл бұрын
@@Mitrandhir True
@rafazeppeli8778
@rafazeppeli8778 Жыл бұрын
Accurate description of Birmingham
@hemalkukreja1146
@hemalkukreja1146 Жыл бұрын
And Europeans thought of middle east as a barren desert,unbearable heat and uncivilised tribes
@MOJO_JOJO701
@MOJO_JOJO701 2 жыл бұрын
"Major cities of the Islamic world like Baghdad hosted hundreds of thousands of inhabitants while Paris and London hosted twenty thousand each".. I know it's a bit away from the original topic but as a person who's born in Iraq It breaks my heart to see what this great nation has become nowadays .. Hopefully we will build our homeland one day .. pardon my poor English btw ( My second language😅) Edit : I can keep taking about my point of view forever and people will still misunderstand me🤦🏻‍♂️ Edit2 : please read my reply regarding (US/IRAN) carefully then I will answer your questions. Edit 3 :- I'm not replying to anyone one anymore💀
@hashimfarrukh4670
@hashimfarrukh4670 2 жыл бұрын
Love iraq from pakistan 🇵🇰
@aaronmarks9366
@aaronmarks9366 2 жыл бұрын
Your English is excellent. And I also hope to see a strong, prosperous Iraq again, with Baghdad as a world city! Brotherly greetings from the US! (Also, I know saying 'sorry' is nothing compared to the pain and suffering my country inflicted on yours, but I hope we can make it up to you somehow)
@MOJO_JOJO701
@MOJO_JOJO701 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmarks9366 THANK YOU SO MUCH!! .. You don't even have to apologize my friend we differentiate between governments and people😊
@MOJO_JOJO701
@MOJO_JOJO701 2 жыл бұрын
@@kellysamuel3383 Thanks .. You too
@MOJO_JOJO701
@MOJO_JOJO701 2 жыл бұрын
@@hashimfarrukh4670 love you too buddy 🇵🇰❤🇮🇶
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
It is always nice to see different perspectives on a single event and not just one. I think more people would be better off doing this. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
@blugaledoh2669
@blugaledoh2669 2 жыл бұрын
I think even European had misconceptions about the Crusades. For example the belief that the crusades participated by younger sons who had no inheritance.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
@@blugaledoh2669---Yeah it's possible everyone on both sides had misconceptions about these wars.
@juk139
@juk139 2 жыл бұрын
This not a different prespective. It's a cherry picked account that doesn't talk about crusader atrocities amd portrayed muslim account as biased and corrupted by personal experiences. It belittles Muslim scholar as naive enough to make their opinion based on narrow mindedness and ignorance.
@blugaledoh2669
@blugaledoh2669 2 жыл бұрын
@@brokenbridge6316 yeah many Muslims seem to think that the Crusade was a early form of European colonization.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
@@blugaledoh2669---For all we know. It probably was.
@joellaz9836
@joellaz9836 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the Arab view about the Franks isn’t really much different from the ancient Romans and Greeks, who thought the cold climate of Gaul and Germany is what made them uncivilised, but also what made them great warriors at the same time.
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
Great warriors?
@joellaz9836
@joellaz9836 2 жыл бұрын
@@aokiaoki4238 Yeah Romans thought Gauls and Germans made great warriors caused they lived in harsh, cold climates with little luxury. Aristotle also believed climate determined what people were like. *Aristotle writes in his Politics 7.1327b that the peoples of Europe and colder climates are naturally full of spirit, but they lack intelligence and skill, so they live in freedom, but they are incapable of building great political institutions.* *He goes on to contrast European peoples with the peoples of Asia and warmer climates, who he says possess great intelligence and skill, but lack spirit, so they are able to build mighty empires, but they live in perpetual servitude to despots. Finally, he concludes that the Greeks, who live in between the two continents and the two climates naturally have all the best qualities of both and are therefore fit to rule over all other peoples* The 14th century scholar Ibn Khaldun also thought Franks and Slavs were dumb because they lived in a harsh (savage) climate, writing: “The country of the Franks is situated in the cold, northern part of the world, along with the Khazars, Alans, and Turks. It faces out to the northern part of the Enclosed Sea. The natural climate of that land would, naturally, lead to people dumb and ignorant like animals, and many people of that land like the Slavs know no religion and dress in animal skins. But some nations of the Franks and Slavs, like some Turks and Ethiopians (who live in similarly savage climate), received religious law in old times and kept to it."
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
@@joellaz9836 Full of spirit doesn't mean great warriors, rather emotional and undisciplined according to Pausanias. Byzantines beleived the same. I haven't find any Medieval source describing them as good warriors.
@goonsdoona2979
@goonsdoona2979 2 жыл бұрын
@@aokiaoki4238 Europeans have always been great warriors
@tarmynastyr
@tarmynastyr 2 жыл бұрын
@@aokiaoki4238 If that was the case, Byzantines would not have hired the Varangian Guard and other Latinkons. Europeans have always been great warriors, from Antiquity to nowadays.
@Mr_Ro6ot
@Mr_Ro6ot 2 жыл бұрын
For history enthusiasts, recommend the book called "The Crusades through Arab Eyes" from Amin Maalouf. The book is really good at explaining the people's situation and political state in muslim nations.
@88Somi
@88Somi 2 жыл бұрын
No
@88Somi
@88Somi 2 жыл бұрын
@@joelaut2605 COPE
@user-jt6zz6pt9j
@user-jt6zz6pt9j 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeroganstrtshots881 most intelligent westerner
@samfrank9573
@samfrank9573 2 жыл бұрын
Amin Maalouf is not a muslim so he is biased against.
@woffydo
@woffydo 2 жыл бұрын
I generally don’t trust Muslim historians.
@eduardocruz6445
@eduardocruz6445 2 жыл бұрын
The crusades are rarely talked about from the Muslim perspective, so I found this video very interesting, thank you for bringing it and I hope you take more videos of this type
@mariomaz0124
@mariomaz0124 Жыл бұрын
Hence the importance of translation. For instance, as an Arab I always wondered about the views of the west on muslim conquests, since all what we read comes from the muslim point of view.
@r.a.f2708
@r.a.f2708 7 ай бұрын
That’s not correct, there are thousands of books and drama plays and tv shows and poets about the uncivilized brutal and savage invasions “Franks” did against different Islamic states in the medieval period and about the heroic battle such as Hittin and about the significant muslim figures of that time. But, who would translate that.
@maikilreategui1271
@maikilreategui1271 5 ай бұрын
Yeaa because they took Jerusalem and than said it was always theirs.
@charlesscholten1469
@charlesscholten1469 4 ай бұрын
​@@mariomaz0124wel I sa a video of kings and generals that first moslims go in to Spain then wanted to go in Frans but the deed blundering and stuf in France so the France acted against those blundering and defeated a Muslim invader. Later on the crusade happened.
@guycrew3973
@guycrew3973 3 ай бұрын
@@maikilreategui1271we’re talking a thousand years ago at that point there’s no right of land because the land was ruled by a king and his nobles and the people living there were just resources
@LucasDimoveo
@LucasDimoveo 2 жыл бұрын
This goes to show that the framing of when a conflict begins and ends can effect the way we think about an event.
@therenegadepianotechnician5170
@therenegadepianotechnician5170 2 жыл бұрын
It's like which came first? The chicken or the egg. I suppose you can go back to when modern humans came from the Middle East and replaced the Neanderthals.
@toastybatch565
@toastybatch565 2 жыл бұрын
Eg. Israel
@davidsuda6110
@davidsuda6110 2 жыл бұрын
I watched Fog of War in which Earl Morris interviews McNamara. What I found interesting is that McNamara said if we had lost World War 2 Americans would have been put on trial for war crimes. He cites our bombing of cilvilans and compares cities in Japan that we wiped out in similar size to Amerian cities. I would also add our unrestricted submarine warfare. On The Media (it about what exactly you think it is). Talked about bias being more than political. You also get narritive bias in which framing can make the subject more sympathetic.
@stonefish1318
@stonefish1318 2 жыл бұрын
True words. Just look at the 1nd and 2nd WW as a single conflict or the continuing war of the people against the elites since the American and French Revolution wich hit an early apex with the introduction of communist states and the modern hypercapitalism. Unfortunely were currently losing the war...(qoute from warren buffet)
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 2 жыл бұрын
@@therenegadepianotechnician5170 The egg came first.
@TheSirBrainbug
@TheSirBrainbug 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. On a related note, are you maybe planning to do a similar one on the Muslim perspective on the Mongol invasions? They were far more destructive to the Muslim world than the crusades so they should have left a far more permanent impression, right?
@neofadhel1643
@neofadhel1643 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I am a Muslim and an Arab and I can tell you that they are barely mentioned or even remembered. I don't even think a lot of people even know about them
@TheSirBrainbug
@TheSirBrainbug 2 жыл бұрын
@@neofadhel1643 Oh, ok. I would have thought that the conquest of Persia or the sack of Baghdad would be traumatic events.
@luisdonoso6154
@luisdonoso6154 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSirBrainbug They were... For the people that lived back then. Nowadays Muslim propaganda may focus more on, like the other person said, "the Horrible and Evil West".
@FactFusionU
@FactFusionU 2 жыл бұрын
@@luisdonoso6154 which it is. Horrible and evil.
@kambingbesi1011
@kambingbesi1011 2 жыл бұрын
I think the other reason why the mongol is not mentioned much is probably because the ilkhanate is eventually became muslim as well But this is just my opinion
@LionKing-ew9rm
@LionKing-ew9rm 2 жыл бұрын
4:39 "Started off with protecting Constantinople..." "Accidentally razed Constantinople to the ground!"
@nattygsbord
@nattygsbord 2 жыл бұрын
It was just a prank bro
@aktradingcompany9035
@aktradingcompany9035 2 жыл бұрын
We will never forget the genocide done by Pagans in our city of Constantinople
@geertwilders5798
@geertwilders5798 2 жыл бұрын
@@aktradingcompany9035 I almost cried when watching the episode about the Crusaders in Constantinople
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 2 жыл бұрын
Opps.
@ark2819
@ark2819 2 жыл бұрын
@@aktradingcompany9035 who were the pagans?
@uninstaller2860
@uninstaller2860 2 жыл бұрын
This is why accurate and impartial history education is so vital. Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart, with hatred looming in it's cellar. Thank you Kings and Generals for the service you do to humankind!
@Nimai_Aquino
@Nimai_Aquino 2 жыл бұрын
While the scientific approach to historical events is vital, legend and mythology is very important too. Myths get a bad connotation these days, buts they are the force which gives a society cohesion and willpower to fight through difficult times. What would be of the Reconquista without the myths of Pelagio and El Cid? Learning the science of history is not abou debunking myths more than it’s to understand why they exist.
@historycaptured1457
@historycaptured1457 2 жыл бұрын
"Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart." Beautifully put, thanks for that.
@felyp3able
@felyp3able 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video you mention that the crusades don't have much impact on modern culture, I believe the levantine crusades really don't, but the reconquista basically formed the Iberian culture and has a great impact on Latin American culture. Looking for a video about that in the future.
@carlospargamendez4784
@carlospargamendez4784 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing in History as "Reconquista". There was the military expansion of peninsular christian kingdoms and the motivation was very different.
@mantor420
@mantor420 2 жыл бұрын
Any academic reference to iberian culture influence from the crusades?
@monitonia
@monitonia 2 жыл бұрын
Great topic suggestion!
@deumevet
@deumevet 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlospargamendez4784 the motivation was to restore christianity, and rule iberia as a roman culture state insteand of an arab muslim one. yes its ok to consider it a reconquista.
@blindtherapper2470
@blindtherapper2470 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlospargamendez4784 historians generally agree that there were several ideas behind reconquista including the arguments here so both are true, but creating christian kingdoms was a big goal. That's why many Muslims either converted or were expelled.
@meitanteiconan5971
@meitanteiconan5971 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this channel covers different perspectives makes it so versatile and is the best on KZbin imo
@scottanos9981
@scottanos9981 2 жыл бұрын
This channel puts out Islam focused videos like every week. Pretty sure we know who sponsors them 😅
@Redfield199
@Redfield199 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottanos9981 lol so typical. If they made videos focused on Christian or European matters, you wouldn't say something like that. But if they focus on Islam it can only be because they are being sponsored and somehow propaganda and not because they find it interesting.
@ernestoperez4992
@ernestoperez4992 2 жыл бұрын
@@Redfield199 What else can you expect from a schmuck like Scott there?
@meitanteiconan5971
@meitanteiconan5971 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottanos9981 Who sponsors em? + What's wrong in putting out Islam focused vids?
@meitanteiconan5971
@meitanteiconan5971 2 жыл бұрын
@@Redfield199 Exactly, there are channels like BazBattles who never make Islam focused videos or cover Islamic battles but cover sometimes only the battles which Muslims lost. No one calls them out for being Christian centric or having shady sponsorship.
@Alssadar
@Alssadar 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite stories from Ibn Munqidh is where he went into the mosque of al-Aqsa, which had been occupied by the Templars at the time. Despite their modern association with being zealous and intolerant of non-Christians, they provided a him space to pray, though this was interrupted by a Frankish man who didn't understand why Ibn Munqidh wasn't praying to the east, and so the Templar had to eject the man. However, he managed to escape and tried to turn Ibn Muqidh again, after which the Templar explained that the man had only recently arrived, and didn't understand why Muslims would pray towards the qiblah. Though still cursing the Franks "(the scourge of Allah upon them!)" in his texts, he still denotes that: "Among the Franks, we notice those who have come to dwell in our midst and who have become accustomed to the society of [Muslims]. They are greatly superior to those who have more recently joined them in the country which they occupy. They form, in fact, an exception which must not be made into a rule," which goes to show a very unique culture between the poulain that settled within the Levant to the Latins who took their booty and returned to Europe.
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 2 жыл бұрын
Interasting very interasting
@feras7027
@feras7027 2 жыл бұрын
He says the templars were his friends.
@feras7027
@feras7027 2 жыл бұрын
@علي ياسر One of the countries.
@feras7027
@feras7027 2 жыл бұрын
@علي ياسر They did. They were dispersed amongst many countries, Switzerland, Malta, Portugal, Spain and indeed Germany too. In fact some went to Scotland and England. They gained prominence in Malta and Switzerland just because they are small countries, but they were influential in other countries too.
@arianagrandaremix8858
@arianagrandaremix8858 4 ай бұрын
It wasn't Muslim land so he can cry all he wants about it
@oldgreybeard2507
@oldgreybeard2507 2 жыл бұрын
Sultan Saladin - the life and legend by Jonathan Phillips. It is a well balanced account of the pre third crusade the third crusade and the lasting legacy of Saladin
@SALADIN..
@SALADIN.. 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 2 жыл бұрын
The sultan was a Kurd by the way
@cebonvieuxjack
@cebonvieuxjack 2 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 wait salahdin was a kurd ?? didn't he come from Egypt ?
@machtvonhre8979
@machtvonhre8979 2 жыл бұрын
@@cebonvieuxjack he was born to kurdish parents in a kurdish village in modern day tikrit, iraq.
@cebonvieuxjack
@cebonvieuxjack 2 жыл бұрын
@@machtvonhre8979 uh, well thanks for the info !
@ignaciocristobal4639
@ignaciocristobal4639 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that book by Amin Maalouf "The crusades through arab eyes".
@aliosman0
@aliosman0 2 жыл бұрын
great book indeed
@ZrodyApo
@ZrodyApo 2 жыл бұрын
We have a copy at home of this book, truly a very interesting read
@darthbanana7
@darthbanana7 2 жыл бұрын
“eyes”
@ndnrb_
@ndnrb_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@darthbanana7 “through”
@sou713
@sou713 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but as a Muslim I already know and trust that K&G did an amazing job on covering this as neutrally as possible. Keep it up!
@Kennyov93
@Kennyov93 2 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I can tell you that the catholic church waged war against my kin as well.
@Xrisus94
@Xrisus94 2 жыл бұрын
As a pagan I take offense to not be mentioned.
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 2 жыл бұрын
Ibn al Walid wants to see you with his army now
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xrisus94 as a Koopa I'm offended by Italians
@amrel-tayeb8896
@amrel-tayeb8896 2 жыл бұрын
they are not neutral. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral. I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre! if you want to see a 'neutral' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is neutral
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! We in the West hear virtually nothing from the Muslim side and rarely consider how the Crusades were viewed from their side. Great stuff!
@futureisyours3016
@futureisyours3016 2 жыл бұрын
The loss of christian lands, destruction of church of holy sepulcher.
@SlayerRiley
@SlayerRiley 2 жыл бұрын
"We in the west", don't project your own lack of interest for a certain subject (which is totally fine) onto others. Try to speak for yourself instead of for, you know, 1,5~ billion people.
@anthonyreed480
@anthonyreed480 2 жыл бұрын
On the contrary, despite Muslims still being a relative minority, I hear virtually nothing *but* the "Muslim side" of things lol. Not only that, I see and hear way more *of* them, disproportionately to the exclusion of others. E.g. I hear nothing of Hindus/Sikhs despite their diasporas being comparable.
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyreed480 not sure about sikhs but msot definitely hindus, and rarely do we talk about the armenian apostolic church or the zoroastrians, the long gone tengriists etc
@anthonyreed480
@anthonyreed480 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenzo5096 I know English isn't your first language but the comment I'm responding to said "In the West" and, yes, the Chinese - like Muslims - are a minority. I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
@phx24
@phx24 Жыл бұрын
This is why I prefer Kings and Generals to Armchair Historian. "From the other perspective" videos here are actually diverse and accurate, and videos cover a very wide range of topics from areas like India and Arabia that deserve more attention. Thank you!!
@smmk8048
@smmk8048 2 жыл бұрын
15:12 G.W. Bush also referred to the invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a crusade, which naturally revives this paradigm
@golimapibol2639
@golimapibol2639 2 жыл бұрын
We didn't wait Bush's discours to call it a croisade. But we find it زلة لسان mean A slip of the tongue. That confirm the view of the majority
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 жыл бұрын
@Mosaab نعم هو it is not happening with a possibility of turkey but none else, and even turkey doesnt have that high of a chance id put my bets on india, although indonesia could be considered somewhat of a candidate for the muslim side, not exactly an islamic state though
@shaziaabrar7204
@shaziaabrar7204 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cecilia-ky3uw India?????
@TheChimples
@TheChimples 2 жыл бұрын
@walid walidos get your head out of anger my friend. Stop looking at people with a hateful and ignorant heart.
@irshadtarsoo7734
@irshadtarsoo7734 2 жыл бұрын
@Mosaab نعم هو آمين
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that most of the Muslim scholars have the same perspective as Christian scholars, that it was a battle between religions, rather than a battle between political entities that incorporated religion to justify their actions and war.
@anon-iraq2655
@anon-iraq2655 2 жыл бұрын
it was both and much more depending on how you see it an ethnic conflict a conflict for resources a conflict induced by climate change a conflict induced by over population a conflict induced by social strife brought about by rigid social classes my opinion : its all of them to some degree
@waqasahmed939
@waqasahmed939 2 жыл бұрын
@@anon-iraq2655 I think for the foot soldiers, they saw it more along the lines of religion than the leaders necessarily did
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 2 жыл бұрын
@@waqasahmed939 That depends on what side you were on. The Christian foot solders were mainly doing this because they thought it would grant them salvation, like that was what they thought was the point of this and that's why they joined in such great numbers. The Muslims however probably had motivations that were much closer to home, they were maybe defending the place they lived or they were just fighting because they were part of the army their lord had raised. As times goes on though the Muslims would more and more start to see this as them defending against an existential thread to Islam, which definitely would motivate them a lot more.
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 2 жыл бұрын
@@nazmul_khan_ For many, that was teh case. However, I have serious doubts that as many would have gone simply at the urging of teh Pope if there was not wealth to be gained.
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 2 жыл бұрын
@@anon-iraq2655 There is rarely one reason. I personally see religion as an incentivising factor, rather than a root factor.
@readingking1421
@readingking1421 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I never thought about this type of question. If you're doing more on medieval warfare, would you consider one on how the knightly orders worked? The Templars, Hospitaliers, Teutonics etc. I've tried researching it myself but it's still confusing.
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 2 жыл бұрын
They already made videos on those Crusader Orders
@readingking1421
@readingking1421 2 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 I did not know that, thank you.
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 2 жыл бұрын
@@readingking1421 Your welcome
@TheMuslimBatman
@TheMuslimBatman 2 жыл бұрын
Never stop posting, i find every video very valuable and cannot think of a better way to spend my spare time ❤️👌💯
@darthfatcow5725
@darthfatcow5725 2 жыл бұрын
You really have to respect that they make these high quality videos without showing any bias towards any side and with complete objectivity. Another job well done.
@faheem65asss
@faheem65asss 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreydragomirov8559 They are just showing the perspective of the Arab kingdoms, everyone has their own view on things. If you look at the videos on the Crusades, they show it from the Crusader perspective. If you are arguing about the science and stuff, well yes, the Ayubidds were fairly farther ahead in sciences and medicine than Europe in the early crusades. Both religions were also prone to violence and to our eyes archaic laws. I understand you are probably anti-islam, but this is a view on history from primary sources, not an opinion video.
@gofar5185
@gofar5185 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreydragomirov8559 yes... none so far... you can see they are open to accept correction/s... if you have any correction to do, you can specify the exact wrong and tell the specific correction/s...
@gofar5185
@gofar5185 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreydragomirov8559 "exaggerating european evil doings..." the thing is, its you who interpreted the video-lecture as such... the message in the video is that, just as there is "jihad" by muslim nations, there is "crusaders" by west europe nations... understandably/naturally, any story has bits and pieces added otherwise it cannot be a story or a lecture but a recitation of statements/sentences...
@amrel-tayeb8896
@amrel-tayeb8896 2 жыл бұрын
I think they are biased. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral or unbiased. I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre! if you want to see a 'unbiased' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is unbiased
@jnmc2498
@jnmc2498 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreydragomirov8559 You reduce christian warfare to 300 years of crusades, and reduce jihad to warfare. You shouldn’t be talking about ”authority to lecture”.
@xdictionary6162
@xdictionary6162 2 жыл бұрын
I got my grandpa into your channel and hes been loving all the Roman videos and the Middle Eastern HIstory!
@mfanakithi2002
@mfanakithi2002 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have outdone yourself here. I am a big fan of this period in history and enjoy reading & watching content on this period. This is the first time I encounter a piece looking at crusades from the others point of view. I like 👍🏽
@sorachi295
@sorachi295 2 жыл бұрын
Correction on Kitab al-Jihad: the literal translation of the book’s title is incorrect and doesn't even mean 'holy war' which is literally translated to Arabic as Al-harb Al-muqadas. The term jihad comes from the tri-root word juhd which literally means effort. So 'jihad' actually means to struggle or exert one's utmost effort. Otherwise, this simple video was a nice watch that doesn't include all the details mentioned in many history books and accounts by Muslim scholars and historians.
@gimenezjuancruz1446
@gimenezjuancruz1446 Жыл бұрын
i thought the same. translating jihad in simply holy war it's so inaccurate
@chriss1686
@chriss1686 Жыл бұрын
This is very whitewashed. Kitab Al-Jihad was written in direct response to the first Crusade and says that muslims are called to make war with Christians at least once a year. The "spiritual" jihad is only a means to the outer struggle, being war with infidels, underscored by the belief there will be a worldwide caliphate one day. Why even try to kid anymore?
@omerfaruk6082
@omerfaruk6082 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, jihad means struggle. The lesser Jihad is a fair and justified non-agression war to please and gain favour of Allah, and the greater jihad is the war against your nefs (evil desires, temptations and inclinations).
@HypostaticFridge
@HypostaticFridge 2 ай бұрын
War in Arabic is Harb. Struggle in Arabic is Jihad.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
Yay another Kings & Generals video. You guys have been on a roll lately.
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Christian Prince...Islam is a Total Scam...
@ezraumar
@ezraumar 2 жыл бұрын
despite the difference prespective between both of them, i love the warrior heart aspect inside both of them, they fight for what they believe is right. peace be upon you all brothers and sisters.
@Sam-pr9rr
@Sam-pr9rr 2 жыл бұрын
Yes so lovely they kill each other like madmen
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 Жыл бұрын
Ibnu al Athir my favorite historian to read about when i was in school. He wrote so many stuff about history of not just in the middle east but also in Asia and Europe.
@benjaminhinz2552
@benjaminhinz2552 2 жыл бұрын
"This enabled both sides to have a stereotypical view of each other" --- excellent wording.
@The_Daily_Tomato
@The_Daily_Tomato 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I had no idea just how much I needed a video on this topic. Stellar work K&G, absolutely fantastic 👏
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu 2 жыл бұрын
Nuraddin Zengi and Baybars had the best win ratio against Crusaders, Saladin although reputed more, failed to produce a decent record losing several battles such as Montgisard, Acre, Arsuf, Jaffa, Belvoir,...
@denizonder6395
@denizonder6395 2 жыл бұрын
Yes brother your right from Turkey
@pompacitokmakci
@pompacitokmakci 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@denizonder6395
@denizonder6395 2 жыл бұрын
It is a pity that this information is not in the video
@omarmuhammed4171
@omarmuhammed4171 2 жыл бұрын
yet Saladin is the one that broke them the most at Hattin and their failure to take Jerusalem in the third Crusade , let's not undermine one's work and appreciate all of them
@bstingge9263
@bstingge9263 2 жыл бұрын
But Salahaddin was the one to capture Jerusalem, and that trumps everyone. That little fact about being reputed more, is not one to sneeze at. ;)
@skkk352
@skkk352 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a patreon ,but I wish these videos were a bit longer.. cant get enough of K&G..👍
@spicy4183
@spicy4183 2 жыл бұрын
i love how he also covers parts of history not taught in school 💙💚
@Mr_M_History
@Mr_M_History 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously so jealous at how much quality content Kings and Generals puts out!
@Sahd079
@Sahd079 2 жыл бұрын
Stop commenting the same thing every video
@Sahd079
@Sahd079 2 жыл бұрын
@@swellerferret2506 its the other way round. Baisically all videos about thw crusades were from Western perspectives until relatively recently
@Sahd079
@Sahd079 2 жыл бұрын
@@swellerferret2506 Nobody blames terror attacks on the crusades only the stupid people do that. It was the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th Century into states which did not align to religious or ethnic people groups. If you look at the 50s 60s and early 70s the middle east generally was stable and prosperous. The subsequent unnecesary wars in Iraq caused the most problems as the US stayed in the country years after they had won. Then many weak states such as Iraq and Syria had a lot of instability during the Arab spring a western supported ideal. The disbanded Iraqi Army went to many extremist groups after 2011. And you seriously want make me believe that 9/11 was actually done by Al qaeda. If you even research enough the Taliban agreed to had over bin laden but the US did not want that. Focus on your own countrys extremists who shoot schools and riot at the capital building looting at blm protests ect. Most death in the 20th century and 21st century were caused by Christians and Athiests who were at the top
@itsmaaz69
@itsmaaz69 2 жыл бұрын
@@swellerferret2506 Haha, stupid old logic as always. Now imagine this; either Byzantines or Sassanids have defeated their foe and formed a massive kingdom, what do you guess they would do next, sitting beside a potential world power (i.e. the arab caliphate, had they stopped their attacks beyond jordan)? They would've definitely invaded the arabs or forcefully made their vassal eventually weakening them. The key point was of timing. The arabs attacked at the best time possible. Had they not, they would have been become slaves in the coming centuries. Only a fool blames someone of invading for balance of power( provided there is no massacre or there is no active peace treaty ) Even though the arabs were not waiting for the imperial empires to weaken, they just happen to have their matters sorted out the instant the empires were exhausted. Anyone blaming muslims for invading christian lands is either islamophobic or a complete idiot since the latter would have done the same
@itsmaaz69
@itsmaaz69 2 жыл бұрын
@@swellerferret2506 I have read many accounts of arab conquests such as those written by Hugh N. Kennedy and Robert G. Hoyland but I never came across your accusations. The era of Amir Ibn al-As al-Sahmi showed prominent expansion in Egypt. Upon entering the surrendered city of heliopolis, monophysite Christians that had suffered on-and-off persecution at the hands of Constantinople, rose up against their Roman oppressors. Although they were unhappy of the jizya tax upon them. This is the summary of the accounts of a renowned historian. While the accusations you present are the writings of bishop john of nikiu, a person who after seeing a humiliating fall of his Christendom was furious against the Muslims. If you take a look at his volume; the chronicles of John, you can clearly see the lack of continuity and the lack of interest in areas not fancy to him. In his book he claims that he has described the history right from Adam to Arab conquests of egypt, but in reality, he has just written on topics that were concerned to him with exemplary biasness and prejudice. He has not even mentioned once the brutalities of roman realm and theodore, the ruler of heliopolis. Your call
@ampeerprime421
@ampeerprime421 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: Jihad does not mean holy war, it means Struggle; thus Kitab Al-Jihad means The Book of Struggle, but I consent to the translation of "The Book of Armed Struggle" if that's what the contents of the book were which I am ignorant of.
@themercifulguard3971
@themercifulguard3971 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is such a common mistranslation. Jihad by Islamic definition encompasses struggling in the path of God. Holy wars are part of Jihad, but Jihad is not exclusively holy wars.
@takezyzz
@takezyzz 2 жыл бұрын
in this context it means the book of holy war dont sugarcoat our religion it was war it wasnt lalaland. in other context jihad means struggle yes
@thefalcon7021
@thefalcon7021 2 жыл бұрын
@@fraskf6765 struggle in general like struggling in life struggling in faith struggling in wars against your enemy (the Holy war part) etc
@ampeerprime421
@ampeerprime421 2 жыл бұрын
@@takezyzz Sugarcoat? brother I am Muslim too, that's what the word means in Al-Mujam Al-Arabi and in the entire Islamic Scholarly Body, we do not have holy wars in Islam, the concept of holy war is christian, and westerners used that term "holy war" to try to explain another culture to each other with terms they are familiar with, which in most cases like this one is not accurate. The author used that term to referee to a specific kind of Struggle, which in this case it is the Armed Struggle against the frankish invasion of the holy lands of Bilad al-Sham, that's what I was talking about. If you feel ashamed of that then that's your problem with all do respect. have a good one.
@HistorySkills
@HistorySkills 2 жыл бұрын
Look, let's be honest: this is a brilliant video. Just awesome. It will be featuring in my classroom teaching as well. Keep up the great work!
@aaronmarks9366
@aaronmarks9366 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see a fellow history teacher! Best wishes, historical knowledge and perspective is sorely needed in every country's schools today!
@HistorySkills
@HistorySkills 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmarks9366 Great to connect work another passionate history teacher too. Do you follow the History Skills channel as well?
@grappling.enthusiast
@grappling.enthusiast Жыл бұрын
History is the best subject I have at school, God bless history teachers.
@DB-wm7px
@DB-wm7px 2 жыл бұрын
Another great one from Kings and Generals, Thank u kindly Sir!
@samerhabib7911
@samerhabib7911 2 жыл бұрын
7:55 Jihad (جهاد) - n., Struggle; derived from the root word Juhd (جهد), which means effort, or labor. Jihad does not mean "holy war".
@Ters-yy9dj
@Ters-yy9dj 2 жыл бұрын
indian : "i will pretend i don't see this"
@Ters-yy9dj
@Ters-yy9dj 2 жыл бұрын
@@agentopaque3776 huu.. i'm not even referencing there.. i'm just referring to a lot of indians who misinterpret jihad... :()
@frghhh
@frghhh 2 жыл бұрын
في المعنى اللغوي تعني بذل الجهد وفي المعنى الاصطلاحي تعني القتال في سبيل الله
@ertugrulbae46
@ertugrulbae46 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to whitewash the religion and its terms to appease to the white man of the West. Jihad literally in a linguist sense from its roots means Struggle. But the homonyms include a holy war. Jihad is justified and completely legitimate whereby a Muslim ruler declares war on the enemy. The only difference is the term is tainted today by proxy terrorists and the West
@purdess2.040
@purdess2.040 2 жыл бұрын
@@ertugrulbae46 exactly.
@GreenKnight343
@GreenKnight343 Жыл бұрын
For anyone looking for a book that uses excerpts from many different Islamic scholars to sum up the Islamic perspective of the crusades, I would suggest *Arab Historians of the Crusades* by Francesco Gabrieli, it is great!
@ElvenMetalhead
@ElvenMetalhead 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get over the bird noises in the beginning and end! Enthralling video, as always ❤️
@richardmaska1818
@richardmaska1818 2 жыл бұрын
Intro statement nails it. I encourage further exploration of this perspective in all applicable topics.
@YMe-hp7hi
@YMe-hp7hi 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. I get dopamine high when I see a new KG documentary.
@BruneSixtine
@BruneSixtine 2 жыл бұрын
The thing every Frankish children learn the most at school about the crusade episodes, is that moment when Saladin sends his own doctor to diagnose and treat Baudouin IV le Lépreux, king of Jerusalem. This event shows Saladin was a honorable enemy, even if he was a sarrasin de ses maures.
@jaaackaissa1633
@jaaackaissa1633 Жыл бұрын
What does sarrasin de ses maures mean and what is the origin of the name
@BruneSixtine
@BruneSixtine Жыл бұрын
@@jaaackaissa1633 "Sarrasin" was the word for "muslim" during the medieval time of the outremer (oversea, crusader states). I believe it's "saracen" in English. "Maures" is the French spelling for "moors". "Sarrasin de ses maures" is a joke and an insult I just invented, only a French speaker could understand. It sounds the same as "sarrasin de ses morts", which designates him and his dead ancestors, in an insulting way.
@IdiotdesRhones
@IdiotdesRhones 11 ай бұрын
Pk tu l’aurais insulté lol
@Cosmo_2100
@Cosmo_2100 11 ай бұрын
@@BruneSixtine only dishonarable men insult honorable men. So that say’s a lot about you
@BruneSixtine
@BruneSixtine 11 ай бұрын
@@Cosmo_2100 Only susceptible men who lack basic sense of humor would feel insulted. I guess that says something about you ?
@tumon001
@tumon001 2 жыл бұрын
Such a Good Channel. Thanks to Kings and Generals Family.
@blablabla1044
@blablabla1044 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I have to point out one thing. Never underestimate the power of the ideas created around crusades. In Middle East, things grew organically, so it was very convenient to relate Crusades with colonization efforts. We would probably have the same thing should the Ottoman empire colonized the whole Europe. It is, however, also wrong to say that only some politicians in Middle East use Crusades as a political argument. Remember George W. Bush and his reference to Crusades? It was such a powerful reference and such a strong motivation to rally people around. So, the myths of Crusades are alive and healthy (and dangerous) on all sides. It is great that you put so much effort in clarifying these events, so we have less myths and more facts. That really helps. Great job!
@billyjesus5442
@billyjesus5442 2 жыл бұрын
ironically in Turkey the crusades are just seen as a another day at the office. The Turks were more concerned about the other Turkic/Mongol powers to their east then they were the christians of the west. Keep in mind that the Turks had already conquered larged parts of europe even before many of them became muslim.
@juanchicruz6551
@juanchicruz6551 2 жыл бұрын
You don't really know what you talking about... People are taught that crusades were evil in Occident
@billyjesus5442
@billyjesus5442 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanchicruz6551 Not in Turkey their not. Turks conquered both the Muslim world and much of the Christian world too. For them its the nature of fighting, you win or you lose. They don't cry like babies over it.
@juanchicruz6551
@juanchicruz6551 2 жыл бұрын
@@billyjesus5442 I said Occident
@billyjesus5442
@billyjesus5442 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanchicruz6551 ah yes, i live in england ive never seen the crusades taught as evil in schools or on tv here?
@NoobomgWhy
@NoobomgWhy 2 жыл бұрын
Great, more of this. History always depends on critical assessments of perspectives.
@navidoo1999
@navidoo1999 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video I greatly thank you guys at the K & G channel for your very meticulous research and respect for other perspectives. I hope one day instead of fighting and bickering and all the nonsense embroiling these two great faiths , comes more understanding between their peoples. Best of wishes in the new year!
@raquibhasib1710
@raquibhasib1710 2 жыл бұрын
I also think that way. If this hatred continues, in future people will no longer adhered to ties of religion. Which is not good.
@jonhall2274
@jonhall2274 2 жыл бұрын
@@raquibhasib1710 Actually religion dying out would be best, religion has already held back civilization for millennia, the quicker the better. Especially considering ya'll can't even decide which skydaddy is the correct one. It just funny to me how all sides are so convinced "they" have the "correct" belief, as if it was just indoctrination from birth that reinforced this belief. TL;DR Skydaddy hasn't ever, and will never exist. 🤣😂
@raquibhasib1710
@raquibhasib1710 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonhall2274 I believed in religion. In 🌍 so called strong/ elite society did , doing and will do a lot of unjust work ( murder , robbery, rape u name it) against poor/ weak people. Do you really think this will go without payback ???
@jonhall2274
@jonhall2274 2 жыл бұрын
@@raquibhasib1710 🤦‍♂️Considering it's happened for literally multi-thousands of years, with people far more faithful than today, and yet nothing has happened.🤷 Nothing will ever happen, because skydaddy doesn't exist. 🤣😂
@hiddenhorizons68
@hiddenhorizons68 Ай бұрын
Your perspectives on embracing diverse viewpoints in history are enlightening! How do you believe considering multiple angles enhances our understanding? Additionally, your insights into framing's impact on conflict perception are intriguing. How can we ensure nuanced interpretations?
@--Paws--
@--Paws-- 2 жыл бұрын
The manga and anime Altair: A Record of Battles (Shoukoku no Altair) really took the Muslim perspective almost precisely as laid out in the plot and story, and also how it is explained in this video. It is however still a fiction; many events and historical figures portrayed are greatly exaggerated or changed to fit the narrative of the story.
@--Paws--
@--Paws-- Жыл бұрын
@Eva Goodwin I know, that's what I said.
@shahzabeshah7304
@shahzabeshah7304 Жыл бұрын
@@--Paws-- I’m gonna check this out. Thanks for letting me know. I needed a nee anime to watch. I like Arslan Senki as well. A good one for how corruption plays out.
@hamishfatcat3385
@hamishfatcat3385 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao the way barbarossa just dissapeared is so funny
@danraf1562
@danraf1562 2 жыл бұрын
He drowned in a river.
@danraf1562
@danraf1562 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedstorm8922 Salahudeen was quite relieved as the german host posed quite a dilemma. Even with the ressources of egypt and syria fighting against three european kingdoms namely France, England and on top of that germany would have been a serious stretch.
@richyhu2042
@richyhu2042 2 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that it's mentioned in just about every crusade video. My favorite is from History Matter where it's just his name and then a quick clip of him sinking headfirst into the river.
@Arcaryon
@Arcaryon 2 жыл бұрын
The thing most people so not know is that he was a fairly impactful monarch before the crusades, instrumental for shaping the beginnings of a lot of history that would even impact our modern world.
@zekun4741
@zekun4741 2 жыл бұрын
Barbarossa was 60 years old and likely suffered a heart attack
@BBogumius
@BBogumius 2 жыл бұрын
Muslims' view on European crusaders were similar to Europe viewing Vikings. Savage yet strong.
@This-jy6wn
@This-jy6wn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fascinated by history. Tell us more about Reconquista!
@Litepaw
@Litepaw 2 жыл бұрын
There's always two sides to history, and I love seeing both of them. Especially where they disagree, usually points out interesting events.
@HamzaPKR
@HamzaPKR 2 жыл бұрын
Understanding the modern world requires an understanding of history, especially from each others perspectives. The Muslim world as the video points out largely saw the western colonial expansion as a continuation of the crusades. As part of their independence struggles many Muslim nations adopted symbols dating back to the crusader period like Egypt which adopted the eagle of Saladin on its flag. European sailors and pirates operating in the Indian Ocean were also referred to as Firangis (Franks).
@arsnesia320
@arsnesia320 2 жыл бұрын
in my country(Indonesia), while studying the history of Islamic civilization. The reason for the crusade was because of the defeat of emperor Romanus in the manzikert war. Emperor Romanus was betrayed by aristocrats, nobles, and the church, when he went to the battlefield in his capital already appointed by the new emperor. So that his army which initially numbered 200 thousand so divided only 50 thousand left and eventually lost the war manzikert. The Muslim army that won the war captured the byzantium emperor and did not kill him but paraded him to the gates of Constantinople with the flag of tawhid in his procession. This incident is considered the cause of the crusade. Tragically, Emperor Romanus faced a coup by John Doucas, his political rival. Emperor Romanus' wife was forced into the monastery, while she was imprisoned in Sicily. After pledging not to reclaim his throne from Emperor Michael VII Doucas, Romanus was blinded on June 29, 1072, and died shortly afterwards from a severe infection from the threading of his eyes. In 1084, the Seljuk Sultanate conquered Antioch (now Antakya, Turkey) and the City of Nicaea in 1092.
@ahmedshamekh9899
@ahmedshamekh9899 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and narration ! What is the name of the soundtrack played on 2:00 ????
@pawstravel
@pawstravel 2 жыл бұрын
I really I really love those counts of when they talk about the Europeans from the other cultures and how they saw us back then. Actually it's still relevant today
@ikielinsesi1843
@ikielinsesi1843 2 жыл бұрын
A video about Templar Knights, Assasins and Seljuks is a good idea. Maybe with Ubisoft sponsorship 😁
@heroiccombatengineer6018
@heroiccombatengineer6018 2 жыл бұрын
Ubisoft would find a way to ruin the video trust me
@pimd6998
@pimd6998 2 жыл бұрын
They already have videos about the Assassins and Seljuks.
@lucimicle5657
@lucimicle5657 2 жыл бұрын
It feels like the muslim perspective is a continuation of ancient mediteranean view of the world, as divided between the civilised coastline cities and the barbaric north.
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 2 жыл бұрын
More like remains of the Roman Empire.
@joellaz9836
@joellaz9836 2 жыл бұрын
They had the same view on climate as the Romans and Greeks or that’s what I get from what reading medieval Arab sources, which essentially say cold climates create uncivilised and savage people, but good warriors.
@nabilrise1551
@nabilrise1551 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaif7327 ibn khaldun describes it well when he talks about the creation and the fall of empires
@dariomartinez459
@dariomartinez459 2 жыл бұрын
The Muslim point of view is as skewed as some Christian points of view and the civilised Mediterranean nations had nothing but contempt for the islamic world but at the same time viewed northern Europeans as barbarians .
@esti-od1mz
@esti-od1mz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. It is more a clash between to religious points of view. The romans and the greeks didn't have nothing like this
@bmw3-er
@bmw3-er 2 жыл бұрын
All of historical events would be better to tell this way. Both perspectives are very important to us.
@mdhasiburrahmantuhin00787
@mdhasiburrahmantuhin00787 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the best historic video I've ever seen ❤️ from any West channel. Very neutral, truthfull perspective ❤️ Specially the last part when you said about present day situation.
@chriss1686
@chriss1686 Жыл бұрын
well good to know you're straight up admitting to a thousand year old grudge lol. might explain why they live in the stone age.
@shadow2000
@shadow2000 2 жыл бұрын
The book of Oussama Ibn Mounqidh is a very good book to read. It's short but you can see the perspective of a muslim on the crusade who are curious, where the ennemy is more the islamic court scheme that the new warrior of the west etc... a book that you need to read to understand the crusade !
@HorvardPasha
@HorvardPasha 2 жыл бұрын
7:59: "Kitab al Dshihad" dosn't mean "The Book of Holy War" but "The Book of strive/struggle". Dshihad doesn't mean anything near "war" or "holy", but struggle itself. As such someone can do dshihad to get better grades at school etc. In this context it's about the struggle to maintain and keep the Islamic Realm as the Christian offensives were a threatening it. In WW1 the Ottoman Empire announced the "Dshihad-i Ekber" which can be translated as "The Great Struggle" to defend the Empire and as such to defend the Islamic Realm. You can interpret that this struggle is about war and a holy mission to guard the future and independence of the Islamic religion and Caliphate, but not in the same "holy war" manner as the Crusades. So basically it's wrong to translate "Dshihad" as "Holy War".
@possumGFX
@possumGFX 2 жыл бұрын
That is nonesense and a common tactic of religious apologists. Its like saying that a crusade is not a military campaign but an expedition to find god. The word Jihad is commonly used to describe a violent act against nonbelievers or perceived heretics. The term is used to activate and provide cause to justify religious, in this case muslim violence against whoever is proclaimed target of the jihad. And this is also how victims of jihadis understand the meaning of the word. Everything else is semantics.
@HorvardPasha
@HorvardPasha 2 жыл бұрын
@@possumGFX Nonsense? Religious apologists? I just translated it from Arabic and described its usage in the Islamic world as a former Muslim. You should note that a widely known Hadith (Quote) of the Islamic Prophet Mohammad says "The greatest Dshihad (Struggle) is against your own nafs (will). The one who overcomes that Dshihad is the greatest among you (The Ummah/Muslim comunity)". Your comment is unfortunately biased, as if you would read some books about Islamic Theology or just simply learn Arabic, you would take it back. Just a side note: I myself criticise Religions and especially Islam a lot (as I am a former Muslim myself), but you just simply are wrong in this matter. I'm strictly against the media calling Islamic Terrorist "Dshihadists", cause it simply is wrong and has nothing to do with the meaning of "Dshihad", just as the term "Anti-Semitism" is used in a wrong way in my oppinion. Anti-Semitism means "Against Semites" and as such against Isreails *AND* Arabs and not "Against Jews". But in common usage it means "Anti Jews" where as there can be Jews who aren't Semitic (for example Khazar Turks). "Anti-Semitic" also excludes being Anti-Arab, whereas Arabs are a Semitic folk. Some terms just need to be changed so prejudices like the ones you have can be exterminated with time.
@possumGFX
@possumGFX 2 жыл бұрын
@@HorvardPasha The terms dont need to be changed. Islamic terrorism is not because Islamists dont understand their own book or language. They understand it very well and they make a different point about what Jihad means. If it was an inner struggle like you people say then why would they declare "Jihad" on others? Like Bin Laden did 1991. Like Boko Haram did in 2015. The Ottomans in 1914, Saddam Hussein in 1990, Gaddafi in 2010 and so many many times in history beginnign from Mohammeds conquest of the arabian Peninsula to the conquest of northern Africa, the occupation of Iberia and the atttacks on Greece and later Vienna or 9/11. It was never "declared" to their own people so they may do a little "inner struggle" with themselves. It was always meant as a declaration of war on religious base. So sorry...no...it does not mean "inner struggle." It means killing those deemed not muslims in the name of Allah. The fact that muslims rush to discuss the meaning of the term instead of the act itself is already telling.
@namenloser7026
@namenloser7026 2 жыл бұрын
@@possumGFX you are an ignorant and talking nonsense. Here is one example for jihad „The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The best fighting (jihad) in the path of Allah is (to speak) a word of justice to an oppressive ruler“ Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) [Sunan Abi Dawud 4344]
@possumGFX
@possumGFX 2 жыл бұрын
@@namenloser7026 Declaring Jihad on other people has absolutely nothing to do with "speaking justice to oppressve rulers." You must be seriously naive if you think that. A single quote out of context wont change that. For every single quote there is another talking of slaughter and murder, of child abuse and bloody conquest in the name of Allah.
@gvtrivia6780
@gvtrivia6780 2 жыл бұрын
as a cypriot from Amathus.. i have to admit. i am m impressed by how well you research is. u pointed paphos was the capital of cyprus back then. correct. nicej ob
@thewolfffscorpp8296
@thewolfffscorpp8296 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work .. fair assessment and objective
@pompacitokmakci
@pompacitokmakci 2 жыл бұрын
Most of Crusader states got destroyed by Turks County of Edessa->Nuraddin Zangi County of Antioch->Baibars County of Jaffa and Ascalon->Baibars Lordship of Sidon->Baibars County of Tripoli->Al Mansur Qalawun Lordship of Tyre->Al Ashraf Khalil Kingdom of Jerusalem->Al Ashraf Khalil and also Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia too
@th0r_0dinson
@th0r_0dinson 2 жыл бұрын
Edessa was the first to be created and first to be retaken by the Muslims.
@hegantank6495
@hegantank6495 2 жыл бұрын
armenian kingdom of cilicia was definitely not a crusader state lol, and putting the mamluk sultans as turks is very questionable
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu 2 жыл бұрын
@@hegantank6495 Literally ALL Mamluk Sultans that fought during the crusades were Turks (Bahri period), The Circassian Dynasty (Burji period) followed much later on
@mariyabiswas3391
@mariyabiswas3391 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonijoestar6871 80%.
@pompacitokmakci
@pompacitokmakci 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonijoestar6871 Almost half of them were Turks in general at least 40%
@benbutler9282
@benbutler9282 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff - a needed perspective - more if you can would be appreciated
@BilalAhmed-jn9qk
@BilalAhmed-jn9qk 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Always love your content.
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 2 жыл бұрын
hope you do more of these other culture's perspectives, like the channel Voices of the Past
@zuhailabrahimi9878
@zuhailabrahimi9878 Жыл бұрын
Correction! In 7:54 you translate 'Jihad' as holy war which is not correct. Holy War in Arabic is 'harb muqadasa' whereas 'Jihad' means 'to strive, to struggle'. In fact, the term 'holy war' was first used by Christian crusaders against Muslims.
@bello-ibiyemiabdulrahman2479
@bello-ibiyemiabdulrahman2479 2 жыл бұрын
I respect the channel a lot for this. I guess we need more people putting reality out there.
@luislugo1289
@luislugo1289 2 жыл бұрын
Un excelente video, como siempre
@ee938
@ee938 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see this video.. I request you do some separate video about SALADIN AYYUBI
@largavidaalosdodosn6931
@largavidaalosdodosn6931 2 жыл бұрын
Muslims: "they took our lands" Byzantines: wait, whaaaaat? Franks: My lands. Muslims: Everything started with siege of Toledo and Sicilia. Proto-Spaniards: Give me back my city. Normands: My island now.
@Darksky1001able
@Darksky1001able 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah. Being Hispanic and Muslim, i tend to follow my Moorish ancestry's example, and ive always wondered what my Muslim brothers and sisters perspective of the Crusades was.
@Darksky1001able
@Darksky1001able 2 жыл бұрын
@AbdulloTOLİB Im sorry?
@Darksky1001able
@Darksky1001able 2 жыл бұрын
@Misericordia United States.
@tugrulgul5903
@tugrulgul5903 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Turkey bro❤️
@cferolie
@cferolie 2 жыл бұрын
I religiously listen and research your videos and comments...valuable and useful about History reprating itself...Thank yoo
@husainsaifee1
@husainsaifee1 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for making this wonderful video. perspective helps
@nilolins
@nilolins 2 жыл бұрын
History is a funny thing, "perspective" is almost always from the eyes of the beholder. The "crusades" were a two way street, and when one realizes that, history will become much clearer.
@servantofthe99
@servantofthe99 2 жыл бұрын
just as a little clarification. "Kitab-al Jihad" would translate to "Book of struggle" or "Book of striving" and not "Book of holy war". "war" is "harb" in arabic in this connotation.
@TerrorBlades
@TerrorBlades 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! You have earned a Sub sir!
@rayaguirre2084
@rayaguirre2084 2 жыл бұрын
That was different and I believe pretty fair both sides were mentioned on having committed atrocities it made me want to look up some of their historians writings
@ibadurrehman1210
@ibadurrehman1210 2 жыл бұрын
Many Muslims sought shelter in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, and the Temple Mount area generally. According to the Gesta Francorum, speaking only of the Temple Mount area, "...[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..." According to Raymond of Aguilers, also writing solely of the Temple Mount area, " in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins." Writing about the Temple Mount area alone, Fulcher of Chartres, who was not an eyewitness to the Jerusalem siege because he had stayed with Baldwin in Edessa at the time, says: "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared." The eyewitness Gesta Francorum states that some people were spared. Its anonymous author wrote, "When the pagans had been overcome, our men seized great numbers, both men and women, either killing them or keeping them captive, as they wished." Later the same source writes, "[Our leaders] also ordered all the Saracen dead to be cast outside because of the great stench, since the whole city was filled with their corpses; and so the living Saracens dragged the dead before the exits of the gates and arranged them in heaps, as if they were houses. No one ever saw or heard of such slaughter of pagan people, for funeral pyres were formed from them like pyramids, and no one knows their number except God alone."
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of the more interesting things about these kind of chronicles that both sides likely exaggerated the massacre at the hands of the franks. Muslim chronists did it to make the crusaders appear more monstrous whereas the christian writers did it because they considered the act of spilling muslim blood as cleansing the sacred places from heathen influence.
@khurmiful
@khurmiful 2 жыл бұрын
Crusades in one respect was a reconquista bridge that turned out to be too far. Disunity and competition among Christendom and Islam was one of the main reasons, for time and again both expansions were checked.
@imawormbeforeiamman6052
@imawormbeforeiamman6052 2 жыл бұрын
@@RM668 i think the fall of Constantinople have huge influence for the exploration of the new world
@DeyaViews
@DeyaViews 2 жыл бұрын
@@imawormbeforeiamman6052 Yes, without the fall of Constantinople and the Ottoman Empire blocking trade of Asian spices to Europe, Portugal and Spain would not have been inspired to seek other trade routes.
@ainzsama5101
@ainzsama5101 2 жыл бұрын
@@RM668 but that really doesnt mean that islam failed just because they didnt colonize in the americas
@aroutledge9565
@aroutledge9565 2 жыл бұрын
@@ainzsama5101 it did brutally
@user-tt2ft5bl4z
@user-tt2ft5bl4z 2 жыл бұрын
Mainly failed because the Crusades merely ocupied the Middle East for economic and religious reasons without colonising or sending settlers into it.
@thadsul
@thadsul 2 жыл бұрын
In the last statement it should be made clear that the unimportance of the crusades to modernity is only in discourse and in (most) westerners minds, but not a historical fact. I feel that it did a great impact on Europe with consequences leading to nowadays, including the construction of the image of the islamic world in the West and an "opening" to a bigger world
@muneirovalibas6194
@muneirovalibas6194 2 жыл бұрын
KnG owning it. Was just watching their Pacific War series and NOW THIS? These guys have no chill!
@barnabastoth9283
@barnabastoth9283 2 жыл бұрын
The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf is an amazing book about the topic
@ridethetiger1895
@ridethetiger1895 Жыл бұрын
Love hearing different perspectives! Thank you for exploring this topic. I served in Afghanistan and while I was there it was a privilege in hearing the Afghani perspective through our interpreters when we dealt with the Afghan contractors we worked with. Working with those guys it made me realize that in the long run we are all just a bunch of dumb humans spinning around a ball of nuclear hellfire. By hearing the different perspectives it made me more compassionate and made me realize that there are way more good people in this world than evil. It is unfortunate that we as humans have to find a reason to kill each other over ultimately trivial things when most of us just want to live our lives and not be bothered by shitty people/governments.
@romelnoviriska8729
@romelnoviriska8729 Жыл бұрын
Its ok brother...you did what was expected of you as a soldier...its always been like this since the beginning of time..old powerful men arguing and yound men dying for reasons most dont really know. 😥 I hope at least you found some peace and solace while you're up there in the mountains..salam brother. 🙏🏾
@shehansenanayaka3046
@shehansenanayaka3046 8 ай бұрын
It is absolutely great to have the crusade in muslim perspective as well. We never talk about that from this perspective. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication. A fan from Sri Lanka ❤️.
@nour.222
@nour.222 2 жыл бұрын
I hope we get more video's about the Amazigh tribes, there is so much history left there.
@mohammedyassine9263
@mohammedyassine9263 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope they do history about battle of three kings/oued Leben/battle of zelaqa which was important in shifting world's history
@Salah-vg4tn
@Salah-vg4tn 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when President Bush remarkably used the term crusade.
@nabilrise1551
@nabilrise1551 2 жыл бұрын
And there was a french general who went to Saladin's grave after ww1
@tugrulgul5903
@tugrulgul5903 Жыл бұрын
@@nabilrise1551 20 years later, his country was occupied by the Germans LOL
@patrickbennett3848
@patrickbennett3848 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do more medieval history videos?
@martiabellan696
@martiabellan696 2 жыл бұрын
i supose that you are patreon? be cause the video just get upload and you have been here 8h ago.
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Christian Prince...Islam is a Total Scam...
@Sahd079
@Sahd079 2 жыл бұрын
@@yakovmatityahu haha you must be joking "Christian prince".
@benmeir24
@benmeir24 2 жыл бұрын
@@yakovmatityahu Totally!
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 2 жыл бұрын
@@benmeir24 watch cp brother...he is an arab christian...he exposes this scam left right and center 😁
@maxavail
@maxavail 2 жыл бұрын
4:05 and 4:13 I love how the passing of those Muslims is announced by a Church bell tolling.
@auradzrts691
@auradzrts691 2 жыл бұрын
Ah this reminds me of a book by Prof. Carole Hillenbrand, The Crusades: Islamic Perspectives
@391akif
@391akif 2 жыл бұрын
There is another important book about this subject by Amin Maalouf. The book's title is "The Crusades Through Arab Eyes." I highly recommend it.
@391akif
@391akif 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangin8811 He is not a professional historian, but as a frankophone Arab author he is deeply interested in both civilizations.
@hung-upear2659
@hung-upear2659 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangin8811 how is he wrong, I want to hear your thoughts on that book
@faheem65asss
@faheem65asss 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangin8811 The Crusades and the wars preceding it were just like the rest of history wars of expansion and re-expansion and control. Islam grew in the middle east and started to expand and conquer (which was a thing that pretty much everyone did), the Europeans fought back, but the mid-east was too far to effectively control so they ended up losing. I agree with you, that while the crusades started with the 1st crusades. The conflicts are much older. Although I also think if you start connecting every conflict to another one, well then our ancestors with stones were probably fighting the crusades.
@DavidRodriguez-er4rq
@DavidRodriguez-er4rq Ай бұрын
​@@faheem65asssyes, Christianity was spreading by preaching and miracles. The Islam spread by killing and enslavement. For hundreds of years, all those lands were Christian. Poor Armenians suffered the most by being displaced.
@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors 2 жыл бұрын
Let's goooo!
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, subscribe to that channel, it is cool, I promise
@JohnnyElRed
@JohnnyElRed 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals I don't know. I don't feel like you are completly impartial on that assessment.
@martiabellan696
@martiabellan696 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals right now, as you order my king/general, my cesar. Also great video even i dont even seen it
@aminbria663
@aminbria663 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals Just fiction. Nothing historical.
@eveningstarinthebluedarksky789
@eveningstarinthebluedarksky789 2 жыл бұрын
Love break downs on fictional conflicts especially fantasy ones! Definitely will check down that channel!
@anderarmould
@anderarmould 2 жыл бұрын
Do these guys do their own maps? They look really good! Where are they from
@drewbaldwin995
@drewbaldwin995 2 жыл бұрын
so when is the next roman video coming out i thought that was next. still enjoying all the content you make
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