Kingsong S18 Review: Off-Roading with Suspension!

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Kuji Rolls

Kuji Rolls

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@phopho1485
@phopho1485 4 жыл бұрын
You are playing with the most regarded EUC at this moment !!! Thank you for your honesty and of course for the mini review... we are wainting more contents though !!!!!!!! Be safe !!!!
@joenyc
@joenyc 4 жыл бұрын
always looking forward to your reviews. i really hope kingsong does not cheapen out on the materials on the production unit. by introducing something this innovative, please don't leave any room for questions or a bad first impression
@zacharylindgren2570
@zacharylindgren2570 4 жыл бұрын
That is such a beautiful redesign.
@garik64
@garik64 4 жыл бұрын
...Open to a mud, dust and every rock on its way.
@ShadKS18XL
@ShadKS18XL 4 жыл бұрын
@@garik64 Ну, у самокатов тоже все открыто и что?.. Чем больше открыто - тем легче чистить. Везде есть как свои плюсы - так и минусы. По крайней мере это не Готвей, хоть не развалится на куски по дороге, батарейки потом не надо собирать как хлебные крошки.
@RealMikeDobbs
@RealMikeDobbs 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kuji! Looking forward to the full review and hopefully a side by side comparison with the V11.
@maxhuang2095
@maxhuang2095 4 жыл бұрын
The suspension system really is a game changer!
@turbofreddy
@turbofreddy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for contributing to the design and tweaks of this model!
@RevRides360
@RevRides360 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you explain the key difference in the suspension design of the S18 vs V11. The fact that the S18 has only the wheel and motor as unsprung weight makes it a superior design. Real world testing of the two designs can prove theory wrong but our bet is that the S18 is going to outperform the V11 in any suspension performance test.
@fire950114
@fire950114 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact for non-chinese speaking viewers: "Ku"(苦) means bitter, "Ji"(雞) means chicken, "Rou" (肉) (pronounced as 'roll') means meat. "Ku Ji Rou" (苦雞肉) means "Bitter chicken meat". "Rou" was substituted with "Roll", plus an "s", perfect for someone who "rolls" on EUCs. So there you go: Bitter chicken meat --> 苦雞肉 --> Ku ji rou --> Kuji Rolls
@ggoraa
@ggoraa 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Xaero324
@Xaero324 4 жыл бұрын
/micdrop
@bigbunny6573
@bigbunny6573 4 жыл бұрын
I💞you, Juno? Lol
@HaiRuiDe
@HaiRuiDe 4 жыл бұрын
Zhen de ma?!
@Kay0Bot
@Kay0Bot 4 жыл бұрын
Need tones...😋
@UStride
@UStride 4 жыл бұрын
You're an amazing tester Kuji. This wheel looks unbelievable. My main concern is maintenance otherwise this is freaking amazing. Thanks so much for this ✌🏾👍🏾😎
@wavecut
@wavecut 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Please, try it out in the woods with roots and rocks, etc.
@TheLillianYoung
@TheLillianYoung 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he falls a couple of times. That’s pushing it to the limit.
@ksnax
@ksnax 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you are allowed to really ride these things.
@knifesketch101
@knifesketch101 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks. I hit an unpainted speed bump the other day unexpectedly and it did throw me off. This suspensions would have helped. Looking forward to more reviews.
@masterblasterofdisaster
@masterblasterofdisaster 4 жыл бұрын
My deepest condolences to the under pedal camera.
@EUCOllective
@EUCOllective 4 жыл бұрын
The hype is real 🔥🔥🔥
@adriancraciun2217
@adriancraciun2217 4 жыл бұрын
🔥
@timrodriguez1
@timrodriguez1 4 жыл бұрын
Holy hot fudge sundae! I need shocks... You are tearing ass over bumps that would normally mess up any rider, wow! 🤘🤠
@michaelcronin1487
@michaelcronin1487 4 жыл бұрын
I like that your getting to ride it First because I like your style of writing and trust your opinion and you just beat those machines up! and I appreciate it! Thanks. love to see you do more on it
@MrSpeedFrk
@MrSpeedFrk 4 жыл бұрын
Could you get access to a V11 for a similar review ?
@kevinmu2133
@kevinmu2133 4 жыл бұрын
MrSpeedFrk I also wanna See v11, lol
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@MrSpeedFrk
@MrSpeedFrk 4 жыл бұрын
@@KujiRolls awesome can't wait to see the comparison
@mikebikekite1
@mikebikekite1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, that answered a lot of questions.
@TiggyRolls
@TiggyRolls 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Kuji!
@TurboZHK
@TurboZHK 4 жыл бұрын
I like this wheel, a lot! It looks nice, the suspension system is actually working, and it is surprisingly nimble at low speed unlike other typical 18’ wheels. The foot pedals are tall, long and comfy but I’d like it to be a bit wider for a more relaxed wider stance because at low to moderate speed I prefer not to grip the wheel tight with my ankles. It has the potential to be an “one size fits most” type of wheel. Maybe just not powerful enough for all your insatiable hunger for speed and torque, but for the rest of us, it may just be the best option out there. Comfortable, smooth, good looking, and adequate motor with a decent battery pack. And, the trolley handle, which is across the width of the wheel in the middle, is quite stable too, much better than the GW 18 inch wheels which place it at the back of the wheel. It may be a bit too tall and heavy to consider as a learner friendly wheel, but it should be easy enough for a beginner to handle. Assuming the final product will utilize better materials and better constructions, it is really an attactive wheel.
@alaskanalain
@alaskanalain 4 жыл бұрын
I was thrown into the air again yesterday but stayed on, again, somehow, while riding my kingsong 14s, this seems like a sweet ride.
@stevesellers3170
@stevesellers3170 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. Thanks for sharing. I put in an order for the v11. But if this one turns out to be a winner I will have to get this one to.
@jackvolta3489
@jackvolta3489 4 жыл бұрын
Steve whats up man your the man who had surgery on your knee, hopefully your the same Sellers in Ma. Framingham to be excect, so you like this wheel me too! But sad that KS & Inmotion had to scrap speakes & battery size for this innovation Im attracted to the V11 and thats only cuz it looks like more of a sealed unit plus its V11 name matches my name & b-day...lol Hope thats enough to make the purchase. 😜👍
@EUC_URUGUAY
@EUC_URUGUAY 4 жыл бұрын
Well done kujirolls, excellent video
@Tiffany_7467
@Tiffany_7467 4 жыл бұрын
The music he plays in his video is so calming
@Roskellan
@Roskellan 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the suspension rate is adjustable - we keep getting teased with info about this wheel. Looking forward to the full reviews.
@NeonEUC
@NeonEUC 4 жыл бұрын
Also need a real test like going over deep pot holes and riding slowly in town centres riding around people. Is it heavy and sluggish to turn at slow speed for example
@freshlycharged
@freshlycharged 4 жыл бұрын
Sexy wheel. Hopefully it lives up to the hype.
@2slice805
@2slice805 4 жыл бұрын
I will be purchasing this one
@GrownandHealthy
@GrownandHealthy 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I'm glad I waited.
@LexoFlexo6
@LexoFlexo6 4 жыл бұрын
I'll buy this one and the ninebot one z10
@milanfpv5099
@milanfpv5099 4 жыл бұрын
@@LexoFlexo6 and what's about gotway Tesla Plus? Or Monster V3?
@axygh
@axygh 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree on the incredible suspension and a killer style.
@ShadKS18XL
@ShadKS18XL 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly the style... But, without at least 1500wh battery - it is just a mid-range wheel for the price of the top wheels. Sure, you can ride 70 kilometers with 1100wh battery, but you won't be able to push it hard already after first 25 kilometers of ride - it just won't have enough power to ride at top speed anymore.
@westindiis
@westindiis 4 жыл бұрын
Let's see test before talk
@mangu768
@mangu768 4 жыл бұрын
Revolutionary!
@intuitivebeings3250
@intuitivebeings3250 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing review and as always you make full use of all the protective gear and never hold off to the limits of the wheel :)
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@AndroidTechnologie
@AndroidTechnologie 4 жыл бұрын
there is a lot of work to do and to finish seeing the performance of the plastic use I think that at 2 drops the material will deteriorate well
@chibuikembah9937
@chibuikembah9937 4 жыл бұрын
Your torture test is quite horrific. Is good to see its been tested to the max. I have to say good job Kingson.
@AG.Floats
@AG.Floats 4 жыл бұрын
How is just riding it around a horrific torture test.
@joenyc
@joenyc 4 жыл бұрын
ag.floats XR i think he just had a bad choice of words. “terrific” was what he meant
@archeebookingagent1909
@archeebookingagent1909 4 жыл бұрын
they have option to set preload and set the dampening, some also have option to inflate like the fox racing version.. DNM also makes one that sits out and has spring attached to it.. so you can either fully locked or have 10 different adjustments...
@Solodyhin
@Solodyhin 4 жыл бұрын
Ооо ждал я обзора))) Спасибо)
@ultravice191
@ultravice191 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for featuring my music.
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
Your music is awesome!
@redfoxdude
@redfoxdude 4 жыл бұрын
Super exciting! I'm very curious to see how the top speed throttling curve will end up looking like. I think this would make a super fun wheel for my commute, but I'm curious if I would need to be charging it at work, which I don't need to do with my current wheels.
@justinmcginty6815
@justinmcginty6815 4 жыл бұрын
Good on you. Having a go. Developing the wheel.
@EUGUY
@EUGUY 4 жыл бұрын
Well... thats AWESOME!
@atenrok
@atenrok 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait! 🤷🏻‍♂️
@NelsonCummings
@NelsonCummings 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos keep them coming thanks
@jeremydumoit4487
@jeremydumoit4487 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. I really wish the 18S had a bigger motor and battery...
@davinchewk
@davinchewk 4 жыл бұрын
I would probably prefer a "smaller" motor (2000W), but bigger battery
@AlexeyDnepr
@AlexeyDnepr 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the white Fox Proframe Helmet? I am looking in white but not available anywhere.
@AlbertVicol
@AlbertVicol 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it comes with a decent water rezistance . It is a must on a 2020 wheel. People buy these for commute and extreme sports not a garrage toy.
@OnizukaGTO
@OnizukaGTO 4 жыл бұрын
Only inmotion units had decent water resistant, never heard of a gotway or kingsong having any that could meet inmotion. But I hope that changes with the s18
@adamstation2281
@adamstation2281 4 жыл бұрын
Nikola release video had a rider blasting through the surf at the beach. @2500$ I'm hesitant to try it
@HendrikRonaldA
@HendrikRonaldA 4 жыл бұрын
The IP rating is still the same as previous model, as stated by the spec. CMIWW.
@djfurione
@djfurione 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for more info. I want to get into EUC, but I want to start with my go to unit. I need something more for offroad. At the moment, I see S18, GW MSP and V11. Hope that GW will show something new in a near future.
@kurtXhecticXpl
@kurtXhecticXpl 4 жыл бұрын
That's great! We really count on the honest review!
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 4 жыл бұрын
Good coverage -- looking forward to next Cheers
@redogfizbal
@redogfizbal 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of pre-ordering the black one, but now that I see the white one on video, I’m not sure what to do.
@OnizukaGTO
@OnizukaGTO 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you do. Get both
@Enroueverslaventure
@Enroueverslaventure 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting direction taken by KS (and inmotion) with their suspended wheels. Must be really nice to ride on that bumpy terrain without being shook to the bones all the time !
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, it was a blast! Meline, will i see you at the Electric Games again this year? I think its been rescheduled for October
@Enroueverslaventure
@Enroueverslaventure 4 жыл бұрын
@@KujiRolls True, it has been rescheduled to the 3rd&4th of october 2020, hoping everything will be fine by then. I should be present too :)
@demetrizuev258
@demetrizuev258 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Are you going to get the pre-production V11?
@bigbadboogie6842
@bigbadboogie6842 4 жыл бұрын
@kuji rolls - sweet vid and u be fearless as usual (dunnonif you have a exo sceleton that prevents you from breaking bones but), BUT a shock wont help with a mono driving through Sand. For that you need either increased friction (aka knobby tyre..ok not really friction...but for people to understand) ....or water to turn sand into mud that does not shy away from the weight of the wheel and rider as much :-) or (of course) more area (aka wider tyre or tyre with bigger diameter...we dont want that)
@oneksq9504
@oneksq9504 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Kuji where are you now? You haven’t posted for ages- hope you’re OK
@roccatagon
@roccatagon 4 жыл бұрын
MSP/MSX or ks18s - which one could You recommend, as most versatile and worth to buy ?(speed not important, more build, range and comfort) Do You still think MSP is best offroader ?
@ShadKS18XL
@ShadKS18XL 4 жыл бұрын
You do understand that KS18S and KS S18 are different wheels, right?
@turbofreddy
@turbofreddy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShadKS18XL Of course he does!.. It's a video about the S18....
@therealestmc85
@therealestmc85 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. The S18 is probably more comfortable but for off-roading I think the MSP is going to be the best wheel due to power.
@westindiis
@westindiis 4 жыл бұрын
I test it today awesome power wheels
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on your riding style. If youre just doing flat hard packed dirt or bumpy roads, the s18 is going to shine. If youre doing steep soft dirt, the MSP will shine. If youre doing street riding on smooth streets, the MSX will shine. Range is mostly a matter of battery capacity.
@michaelcronin1487
@michaelcronin1487 4 жыл бұрын
Can you put your kuji roll pads on that or not! And some stairs with a side shot please
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
They have built in kujipads. And you didnt see my stairs video?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4nZn5uprt6kqLs
@GodzillaGoesGaga
@GodzillaGoesGaga 4 жыл бұрын
Look forward to your in-depth review. Would like to know how it handles in corners due to increased CofG height. Would also like to know how it deals with sharp bumps like tree roots and potholes. My biggest concern is being sprung off the wheel.
@Papalou1234
@Papalou1234 4 жыл бұрын
very honest review...most likely you can have euc that keep you safe confortable but you will not go really far!
@therealestmc85
@therealestmc85 4 жыл бұрын
30 miles isn’t not bad.
@Papalou1234
@Papalou1234 4 жыл бұрын
i am not impress about this wheel.i care about a sure investment!this wheel not worth the price they ask for😕
@louderfasterheavier4912
@louderfasterheavier4912 4 жыл бұрын
Man what is the name of your jacket? Looks so cool! Btw, your video is awesome!
@thcaywkg
@thcaywkg 4 жыл бұрын
..I am sold that suspension is the next game changer for EUC in 2020! It will save my knee in the long run over undulated pathway and off road rides!👍 wonder if camber would make the difference between a good or a better wheel between the technology use! i.e how the shock system behave to impact and rebound
@PYROFLOWROCKETSTOVES
@PYROFLOWROCKETSTOVES 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool dude keep up the coolness
@gmc7878
@gmc7878 4 жыл бұрын
The suspension is just the second best thing on it. The best new gadget are the integrated kuji pads.
@mcronfpv8736
@mcronfpv8736 4 жыл бұрын
amazing to see this coming. But there isn't much to learn from this video... I wish you spent more time tuning the suspension for your weight (there is way too much air, you're really not using it ) and tune the rebound (with the knob) for the different terrains. I really want to see a wheeler with experience in mountainbiking and tuning shocks that would give it a go.
@django1364
@django1364 3 жыл бұрын
the shock suspension inside bar is rubbing against the rail that is carrying some wires
@phizicks
@phizicks 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, wished I could do prototypes. Being an engineer and rider myself, can find where things would break or wear down and the electronics tests too. must be so smooth riding that now but wonder about doing jumps from street to footpath etc. the shock would take away your push off.
@TheOtherShoreOutdoors
@TheOtherShoreOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Its free wheel, i mean there is no friction, when the motor is off and you take the handlebar for trolling it?
@viltonrodrigues8438
@viltonrodrigues8438 4 жыл бұрын
Top!!! I need this here in Brazil!!!!
@eddiemoy
@eddiemoy 4 жыл бұрын
How is the cable to the wheel motor going to hold up from all the movements?
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
After a couple hundred miles, the cable hasnt shown any signs of wear and tear
@sezergezek
@sezergezek 4 жыл бұрын
Kingsong is your sponsor???
@mitchellgeisler4577
@mitchellgeisler4577 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your thoughts on the new S20 Eagle thats going to be coming!! Im just getting into EUCs so any insight is amazing!!
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 4 жыл бұрын
I'm the odd person who likes rubber on pedals more than grip tape. I ride V10F so not some crazy speeds, but I do push the V10F quite hard quite often. I tried V10F both with old rubber pedals, new grip tape pedals, and now riding it with HexTech pedals. Rubber were the most comfort, but I'm staying with HexTech just because durability.
@thejollyrama3083
@thejollyrama3083 4 жыл бұрын
Yo Kuji, thanks for this Video preview! A comment I keep seeing is that the innards being exposed may be bad for possible water damage, or possibly getting damaged in a crash scenario. You dispelled a bit of that concern here. I keep thinking that perhaps they'll opt to seal it more for production with translucent plastic like the Nikola. Any thoughts on that? Do you feel it will be modified for such concerns? I personally love it as is and would be stoked to have one innards exposed and all. I love the look of it (for Socal, not concerned with rain much), but people in rainy climates aren't really considering this wheel, in favor of the V11, which understandably has waterproofing...
@DanielMoraleda
@DanielMoraleda 4 жыл бұрын
Very good quality videos Kuji! :) I hope the final version has these exact pedals, love them! More chances to fit between obstacles and to hit fewer rocks, I also appreciate the USB port, the different manual modes for the light intensity and the "built-in Kuji pads" since I don't like to glue stuff to my wheel but I love to jump. I would also like to know if the pedals are bouncy/magnetic or hard, can the wheel stand by itself with this mudguard? Does the trolley also have a lock mechanism when fully lifted? (So I can carry stuff when shopping) and finally, does the wheel have a fan somewhere? Every time I choose a wheel I look into those small details so I appreciate that you include them in your reviews!
@scottdmartin
@scottdmartin 4 жыл бұрын
When production models come out would you choose this over the Gotway MSP ?
@AlexeyDnepr
@AlexeyDnepr 4 жыл бұрын
Gotway MSuper PRO or KingSong S18?
@duperfastEUC
@duperfastEUC 4 жыл бұрын
Freakin awesome!
@smc1897
@smc1897 4 жыл бұрын
Will be curious about Kingsong's intended drop height for the production model. And by drop height, think "downhill bike park" and "tabletop" - how high is within design constraints.
@shantiyog
@shantiyog 4 жыл бұрын
What a nice view, please tell me what is your jacket model?
@jfpaul2908
@jfpaul2908 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kuji, From what you saw or you've been told, might we expect the suspension assembly to be protected/hidden by some kind of removable cover/housing? This would protect the suspension mechanism from rain, dust and scratches since eventually this will happen.
@dwartfarquart9590
@dwartfarquart9590 3 жыл бұрын
Will there be a off road tire that won't rub, available soon?
@bigdap100
@bigdap100 4 жыл бұрын
01:43 that shot was EPIC!!! Wow.
@rickharvey4727
@rickharvey4727 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, but damn man, you have the most prominent square jaw I've ever seen. Kudos.
@ChaseN194
@ChaseN194 4 жыл бұрын
But what kind of jumps can you hit?
@TheBloomsRule
@TheBloomsRule 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tidied any jumps... the shock might absorb you lift unless you pre-load like you do mountain biking
@andrebourdin104
@andrebourdin104 4 жыл бұрын
Comment a til fait pour installer des amortisseurs ? Sa m intéresse svp
@dwayn3c0ll1ns
@dwayn3c0ll1ns 4 жыл бұрын
Had to pause mid way to say something. Seeing this thing off road, talking tumbles, getting dusty and scuffed up. It still still believe it or not LOOKS pretty badass. Like something from a SCI-FI movie.
@zuowang5481
@zuowang5481 4 жыл бұрын
What is the best to buy now for daily city commute?
@ZenLee
@ZenLee 4 жыл бұрын
oh gawd🔥🙏
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try the suspension wheels. Although I don't feel like I need suspension in my wheel, they must feel super comfy. I wonder how good will they be at riding up curbs.
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
It can be done, but dont do it too fast. Its still possible to dent rims.
@Shazzzam74
@Shazzzam74 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you can use the handle while riding for more control. Thanks for sharing.
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
No
@thegreenhansel
@thegreenhansel 4 жыл бұрын
Wow such a nice wheel... hope i can try it in austria b4 buying it... i already have an Inmotion v8 and a ninebot z10... but this wheel ❤❤❤❤🤤😍
@wintage1615
@wintage1615 4 жыл бұрын
Can you show us how you mount the under pedal camera? Which camera you used, etc? I like the shots you took. Would like to do the same. Thanks.
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
I used a gopro, EVA foam, and some double sided tape. The EVA foam was to get more surface area.
@awheel7812
@awheel7812 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good video.
@016632
@016632 4 жыл бұрын
I like this one but i think im going with inmotion v11 since it has more range!
@Reawer
@Reawer 2 жыл бұрын
0:49 dat's the Kuji roll!
@seismicswan5419
@seismicswan5419 4 жыл бұрын
Mine stopped balancing after 30 days. The company i purchased from (euco) hasnt sent me a response. Anyone with this issue?
@hellochriis
@hellochriis 4 жыл бұрын
Why does no one build a wide tyre design like the Z10? Would be so much more suited for off-road riding.
@adamstation2281
@adamstation2281 4 жыл бұрын
One of the big questions I keep seeing is, can you load up your weight on the piston and use the decompression to assist in popping up in a jump'
@KujiRolls
@KujiRolls 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, the double jump. The jump before the jump. It works.
@sandeepkumar-jg7yj
@sandeepkumar-jg7yj 4 жыл бұрын
How can stop the bike where the brake
@GreenMasterMike
@GreenMasterMike 3 жыл бұрын
But you did not answer the question which one is better
@westindiis
@westindiis 4 жыл бұрын
Good toy kuji wait your feedback regarding range. Thank you for the community.
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