What I LOVE and Hate about the 2023 Canyon AT4 at Tulare Lake!

What I LOVE and Hate about the 2023 Canyon AT4 at Tulare Lake!
Today I go out to the Tulare Lake and talk about my first 3000 miles in my new 2023 GMC Canyon. The great, and not so great. Lots of questions will be answered in this video. #gmccanyon #canyonat4 #chevycolorado #coloradoz71 #2023gmccanyon

[@donaldweller460]

I am glad you complained about the size of the screen behind the steering wheel on the 23. Gm is putting in the 11 inch screen in the 24 AT4 model. Thanks too you. I will be ordering one this spring.

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for sharing. My next issue is. On the website is say 60/40 split rear bench fold down. Mine does not have that.

[@justdiveitne4115]

100% Agree with everything you said. Had the truck for about 2 weeks. Same issues.

[@ToddCotta]

GM could have had a top shelf product, but again they go low budget and charge a premium. I still love this truck, but they could have done better. Thanks for watching!

[@justdiveitne4115]

@@ToddCotta , Yup! Right on. We will see what the 24's come out with. If they can retro the dash I would do it.

[@ToddCotta]

Don't hold your breath.

[@jimmybonaducci6405]

Had mine for a week now. Exact same as yours. 100% agree with all but the dash.Would be nice but really dont care. All redundant anyway. MY gripe is the back seat for the same reasons you stated. Useless for storage. And a Big one is why do we get Carpet Floormats? Maybe so theyre easy on your dress shoes. Why not nice all-weather rubber from GM. Oh thats right. For another $300 you can order OEM ones. Seems to me as a whole, this was set up as a Soccer Mom/ Grocery getter. Up to the buyer to make it a Truck. Still a great truck and am very happy so far.

[@retkar1]

@@ToddCottaagree with all you said. Out of curiosity, do you know if the wider version of the driver’s display can be purchased as a replacement part and the displays swapped out after purchase?

[@mattbeese]

Picking up my Canyon AT4 later this week, all of your videos have been incredibly helpful as far as getting an idea for what I’m getting into. Can’t wait to get the truck, and completely agree with all the pros and cons you cited. Thank you for doing what you do!!

[@ToddCotta]

Glad to help! I hope you love that AT4! Thanks for watching!

[@rogerholle3493]

Picked up my new AT4 Canyon May 10th. Put 649 miles on it the first week. Left from Kansas City for a trip to Oregon. Back home on May 31st. 4356 miles round trip and average mpg of 21.1, even with speed limit of 80 in Idaho and Wyoming. Agree that under seat storage and folding rear seat back should be there. Previous models had that. Power sliding window would be nice but not a game changer for me. Very happy with my Canyon. I had already ordered mine before I found your videos. From watching your videos I’m sure I knew more about how the the new Canyon controls than any of the dealership sales dept. Thanks again.

[@ToddCotta]

Thank you for the compliment and I'm glad you're loving your new AT4. Thanks for commenting!

[@johnmurphy6781]

Hey Todd, it’s your neighbor from Clovis. Dublin GMC delivered my AT4 2 weeks ago. I took it on a 2300 mile trip up to Montana. Averaged 22.3 for the trip. I agree with all of your complaints but I think I’ll get used to them. This truck is great. Comfortable, rides nice and mpg not awful. Love the adaptive cruise and auto high beams. Thanks for your honest reviews.

[@ToddCotta]

Congratulations on the new truck. Thanks for the kind words. Have a great summer!

[@DennysD123]

Thank you for your honest video. Very hard to find honest reviews!

[@ToddCotta]

I can't tell you how many people said that. I'm a shill for general motors. I have no obligation to support them. I do love this truck but I am not going to sugarcoat it either. Thanks for watching!

[@jeff-so3hd]

Loved this review. Thank you for sharing this with all of us. I love My 2023 Canyon.

[@ToddCotta]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@joalyincontroly4379]

That truck is really sweet, and I'm glad I ordered my ZR2 in that desert sand color because it looks great. I'd like a power rear window but I got my ZR2 with the sunroof so it'll be power open/close to rapid ventilate the cab. The ZR2 gets almost all the premium stuff including the 11 inch instrument panel behind the steering wheel as well as heated/ventilated leather power seats and some other premium offroad things like the amazing DSSV dampers, some aggressive 33 inch wranglers, the 3 inch lift, Baja drive mode and the new rock sliders. The whole package with the paint and the sunroof is $46,000 USD. I realize that the AT4 has a little more soft-touch and leather on the doors and dashboard, and the HUD which my ZR2 doesn't get but it seems like I'm getting a heck of a lot more Truck for almost 5 grand less cost. I guess it just comes down to personal needs and priorities. Anyway, great truck and another helpful video too. Thanks👍🏻

[@ToddCotta]

Look like you have done your homework. You made the right decision!!! Thanks for watching!

[@briangibbsbd]

I 100% agree with you on these issues. I will add that the door panel should have soft touch material above the arm rest and below the window, along with offering an interior color that isn’t dominated by black. I am waiting on the Toyota Tacoma to see how they price their truck before making a decision on which one I will buy.. thanks for the review..

[@ToddCotta]

Yes the black interior is a turn off for many buyers. I kind of like it. But gray or brown would be nice also. Thanks for watching!

[@taylorg2787]

Appreciate the passion 🙏🏻

[@ToddCotta]

I try to have fun!!!!! Filming a MPG test today driving to LA

[@Mi4mi_joe]

I understand the frustration with the quirks 100% but in my personal use, they don’t bother me much. I’m coming from a 1995 Jeep Wrangler 😂. The Trail Boss is my first ever new truck and I absolutely love it. I feel it has more power and torque than my 4.0L on the wrangler. Love, love, love it.

[@ToddCotta]

Yeah when you come from a Jeep from that era to the trail boss it's not much of a leap. But I wish they would have made the trail boss at least in a few more option levels like the LT. That would have made it a much nicer truck.

[@gordmonteath6090]

Did you tell GM about back seat fold down and underseat storage. You're correct on both points

[@ToddCotta]

That is why I made this video. You know they are watching every feed about this truck. But I really don't believe the bean counters at GM really care. Thanks for watching!

[@Expressitc]

You hit the nail on the head. I've had mine for 1 week and VERY happy, but the points you bring up are valid. Quick question. Looking at the front windshield from the outside on my AT4, there is a channel on both sides and the top between the windshield and the truck frame, almost like its missing molding or something. Is yours like this and it's the way it's supposed to be, or am I missing some parts?

[@ToddCotta]

Just ran out to my truck and checked. Mine has a 1/4 inch gap on both sides and a bit closer on the top edge. Looks like it was engineered that way. I have taken my truck to pressure car washes several times in the past three months and never a problem. I guess they figured trim there does not do any improvement to the water seal, so why have it. Thanks for watching.

[@fabian29906]

My Z71 is the same way and I also haven't had any issues @ car washes.

[@jakegroenig5820]

I think my Tundra is like that as well. I think they do that for water run off. We have a Honda that is smooth molded and water always runs down the center of the window when you hit the brakes when it is raining...never in the tundra.

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for adding this information!

[@marcusmobley2209]

Great points and since we "bailed them out" they should strive to give back. My opinion. Looks great from outside.

[@ToddCotta]

Yeah they were bailed along with other car companies. But I agree they could have done a little bit better. Thanks for watching

[@donaldwitt9758]

Really appreciate your videos! Have watched all of them as you released them. Really helped me pull the trigger and my AT4 is in production this week! Also agree with all your points. I’d feel worse if there was a truck out there doing everything right. But it’s like the manufacturers get together to decide who gets to be best at what haha. Guess GMC got exterior and interior design this year. You bet I’m getting an 11in driver infotainment in there tho when the part is available in a few years. But should definitely be available during initial build…

[@ToddCotta]

thanks for commenting!

[@Revenant_Knight]

Great vid. Thanks for the honesty. Looks like I'll hold off a couple model years to see if they rectify some those complaints because they would drive me up the wall. Don't need a new truck right now so I've got time.

[@ToddCotta]

Yes, they may start trying to add options to increase sales in the next few years. Thanks for watching!

[@Oscar93646]

Completely with you on the instrument cluster concern!

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for watching!

[@alanbennett2855]

Thanks for your honest review. I have been lusting over the new GMC Canyon since late last fall. You can't get one here at my local dealers in South Carolina. I am currently driving a 2018 GMC Sierra with only 23K miles and it has power everything and a 6.2L motor. It almost has too ,much power. And my gas mileage is incredible good. Around town mostly 16 to 17 MPG but on the open highway I actually got 30.9 Mpg . It easily gets 25 to 26 MPG on the highway. So I am torn between keeping this truck or buying an AT4 Canyon. Also the new Toyota Tacoma looks to be awesome. If GMC can't get there vehicles to the dealers soon I will wait for Toyota. Thanks again for your reviews.

[@ToddCotta]

No doubt the Sierra is a better, more equipped truck. But the east of driving and parking is a huge plus with these smaller trucks. Have fun on your truck hunting adventure

[@NWGarage]

Fantastic honest video !

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks!

[@matthewferrara5641]

Great video! Been following along with your reviews of this truck and I pulled the trigger on ordering one, this will be my first truck. Only thing I can't seem to find any information on is the USB ports and the media system. I tend to put audio books on a USB and plug it in to the media system. I'm guessing this truck can do the same?

[@ToddCotta]

Glad I could help! There are four USB ports in the cab, two charge ports in back seat, two media ports in the front seat. If you play your podcasts are on your phone the wireless phone hookup works great. I have audible.com app that auto loaded from my phone. Have a great day!

[@ToddCotta]

I just loaded some audio onto a USB jump drive. I plugged it into the port below the radio. Selected USB on the infotainment screen, and BOOM it worked. You can play MP3 on the radio with a USB drive.

[@matthewferrara5641]

@@ToddCotta Awesome! I really appreciate you trying that!

[@revnation_auto]

Great job calling them out on this stuff man. I appreciate people who aren't corporate suck ups and keep it honest. I do that on my channel. I get a lot of hate for it but I care more about getting the truth out there than trying to get people to like me.

[@ToddCotta]

I have no allegiance to an automaker although I really don't like Ford because I was forced to drive them for years as a Deputy Sheriff. Thanks for the kind words.

[@bouncertime]

Great review. I currently own a 2017 Colorado Z71 with the diesel and I have been trying to decide between the new Colorado and Canyon. Your dislikes are some of the items I’ve already noticed that my 2017 does have. My back seats fold down, it’s convenient to have a flat bench. My back seats have a fold down arm rest with cup holders. I wish the diesel was still available, it may not be as powerful as the new 2.7, but it’s nice getting 30mpg on the freeways. But that new truck sure is beautiful.

[@ToddCotta]

The really took the time to make it tough and set it apart from the other trucks on the market. Thanks for watching!

[@larrystefhon4866]

Just picked up my AT4 300 miles in and love it

[@ToddCotta]

Awesome!!!!!

[@mrut4911]

My garage door opening is about 81” and I can’t find any measurements got the canyon at4 height including the small antenna on the roof. Is the antenna able to be angled down? Could you provide a measurement? I still can’t find one locally in person. Thanks for your videos great coverage!

[@ToddCotta]

Mine is 81 inches also and it fits fine. Thanks for watching!

[@hewster1]

I just hit 3,000 on my Denali. I agree with most of what you said. Gauge cluster: it was actually one of the reasons I didnt get the AT4. Nuts that it isnt standard, although i am sure there will be a way to "hack" it in the near future. It is just a computer screen after all. The backseat... ya... no idea why it cant fold down. Glad you confirmed it because I thought maybe I was an idiot. Gas mileage... I am happy with. I have bigger nobbier 33" tires and still average 21-23 on highways (23.4 is my best 50 mile). Rear window... I agree that it is ridiculous it isn't power but not a concern for me. I NEVER opened the rear window on my raptor that I owned for 6 years and it was powered. My biggest complaints are: i have a denali and my windshield wipers aren't automatic!? Come onnnnn And ive experienced issues with my infotainment system. Ive had to hard reset the teuck by unplugging the battery because the operating system wouldnt boot up. I also have issues connecting to streaming services through the truck at least once a week. (Turning off truck and turning it back on fixes it sometimes). And finally, ive had my speakers sound like they were blown and didnt fix itself until i turned off the truck for 5 minutes and came back to it.

[@ToddCotta]

Wow, two Denali comments about Cluster problems. Maybe it is the two big displays conflicting. I hope they solve your issue soon. Thanks for watching!

[@bryantbezon-ni2lm]

I couldn’t get out of the dealership with mine until they disconnected my battery to get xm and instant going but after that truck is awesome

[@bryantbezon-ni2lm]

Onstar

[@cecil5152]

Great video, hope GMC takes notice.

[@ToddCotta]

I hope so too

[@rickienorman7917]

I love your review. I totally agree with you about the back seat. The jack should have been stored at the rear of the seat and the bottom of the seat should have been an option for owner accessible storage. This would have been more efficient. They clearly missed the mark on everything you mentioned. If they change those things, i would buy the truck for sure, it's the best looking and capable truck on the market. Hopefully next year they would make those recommended changes. Overall in my opinion they should offer a hybrid electric motor; range,torque and silence when needed (especially when hunting) would give this already awesome truck a massive advantage over anything else available. REVUEZIT keep coming with the reviews!

[@ToddCotta]

All good suggestions! Lets hope GM is watching!

[@fidelbanuelos9601]

Good point about how seldom we use the light switch.

[@ToddCotta]

Just trying to not be closed minded. I was a tiny bit concerned when I purchased it. Now it is easy to use.

[@smittysmitty481]

Thank you for this video! I’m leaning towards the Canyon AT4 at this point. Let’s see how the other manufacturers price in at

[@ToddCotta]

Glad it was helpful!

[@user-rc2wm7qo5p]

Just purchased one like yours. You hit it on the head well done. One more question: does your BSM give an audible warning? I cant seen to make it do that. That was a simple but lacking thing on my 2019 Tacoma that i just traded in for this one. New Taco hybrid claims to only have 6000 lb towing, wow...

[@ToddCotta]

You can turn the back seat occupant check warning off or on in the setup menu. I keep mine turned off because I don't have little kids. For watching

[@andrewshenton6541]

Great review

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks you for the complement! I really do try to make a true owners review. Have a great day!

[@firefighterheat]

Just ordered my 2024 GMC Canyon AT4 in Summit White with 20" wheels , sunroof, premium package, bed liner, Bose speakers, tow package, could take 4 months or more to get. thanks for all of the videos and your thoughts on the AT4.

[@ToddCotta]

Awesome! I still love my truck. Getting ready to do my 12 months of ownership video with my buddy Ed. I just wish there was more storage room in the back seat.

[@JSmith-zr2ve]

Can you adjust the headlights lights when the truck is moving? Or do you have to stop the vehicle to do it? Another major bummer is the lack of power sliding rear window.

[@ToddCotta]

I did it this morning turning my fog lights on. I actually commented to my dad that turning fog lights on is easier than my previous Sierra that had three small light buttons in the middle of the switch. Half of the time I would hit the bed light and not fog lights. It is pretty quick and simple to use. I never use my rear slider so it does not matter to me. Thanks for commenting.

[@lee1130fromtwitter]

The headlights on a switch is for using your lights without turning the truck on. Like when you are camping or hunting and need to see in the dark etc

[@ToddCotta]

Looks like they are making trucks for the masses not hunters these days. A guess you would need to put a light bar on the truck and use aux switch. Thanks for commenting!

[@jessnevares7861]

I test drove this AT4 truck and wasn’t impressed. I ended up buying the 2023 ford lariat tremor. This truck has the rear folding seat, home link button , fox shocks , heated leather seats etc. great truck , we love it. We will be taking it up to mammoth Ca in two weeks. Ford makes a better truck and we got it for $51k OTD. 😊

[@ToddCotta]

Sorry to hear that

[@haroldbanks5388]

I also agree with you one hundred percent. Maybe GM will watch this video and learn something.

[@ToddCotta]

I am sure they have seen it. They follow me. Thanks for watching!

[@aPlateOfGrapes]

I have a 2023 Canyon Denali and love it. There are a few minor issues, as you note (I do get the larger cluster screen). I would add the one thing that really cheeses me off about almost all cars; only the driver side is auto up. I have one touch down on all windows, why not up?

[@ToddCotta]

Yeah not sure why the even have the all down button. Or maybe just to have a button. But why wouldn't it be all auto up? Thanks for watching

[@scotthill9445]

2024 AT4 has the 11 inch gauge cluster. Just ordered mine. I agree however that the backseat needs a redesign for useable storage. Thanks for the review.

[@ToddCotta]

I see that. I actually sent a letter to GM asking them why premium trucks are not premium. I requested a replacement dash cluster 11 inch. They denied, but now it is standard equipment one year later. Thanks for watching!

[@dr2c42020]

If those are the only things you “hate” looks like you made a good decision. I am picking up my new canyon tomorrow…I opted for Denali so one of those issues will be off my list. Thanks for all the great content!!

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for watching! You should love that Denali!

[@drpatferrydc3853]

JUST BOUGHT A 23 GMC CAYNON DENALI AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THE BACK SEAT, I HAD A 2019 DENALI CAYNON AND THE BACK SEAT FOLDED DOWN AND THERE WAS A LOT MORE ROOM FOR STORAGE UNDER THE SEAT! YES AND NO GARAGE DOOR OPENER EVEN ON A DENALI! WTH AND VOICED MY DESPLEASURE WITH MY 2019 TO GM BUT EVIDENTLY THEY DON'T LISTEN TO THEIR CUSTOMERS!

[@ToddCotta]

Yep! I know how you feel. Thanks for watching!

[@bmtango05]

I"m only about 500 miles into my Canyon, so far so good. My only complaint is the unremovable headrest. I'm only 5'11 but I have a taller torso and short legs. Anyhow, if I adjust the headrest to the back of my head it's very uncomfortable as it pushes your head forward and strains the neck. What I normally would do is reverse it so that it leans back but you can't remove them. I got this neck support from amazon that clamps on to the bars to mitigate. I just put on some running boards today, the GM ones that are $395. I used my points and a 15% coupon code and got them for $180.

[@ToddCotta]

I feel your pain brother. Yeah I'm not sure why they don't come off. There should be a way. Thanks for watching.

[@ronm9772]

I picked up my AT4 this past Friday and to me with the radio off or even down low the engine noise is quite loud. Sounds very strange during acceleration is this normal from what you've experienced with your vehicle?

[@ToddCotta]

I don't have any issues with mine. I feel it is very quiet from my experience. Thanks for watching!

[@kastnova99]

Do any of these 2023 canyons come with the longer bed option? Or are all the bed lengths the same size?

[@ToddCotta]

For now, only one cab and one bed configuration. Thanks for watching!

[@randyvalentia1434]

I bought this truck also. Mine has the lift kit and side steps. I wanted the AT4X, and i live right down the road from the GMC truck assembly plant in flint michigan. Thought it would be easy to find a canyon AT4X. I found none and was inpatient so settled for the AT4. BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS TRUCK. hopefully gas prices go down tho.

[@ToddCotta]

That X is sexy, but for what I do this truck can offroad where I go all day long. Thanks for watching!

[@KevinLordChip]

Yes I agree, I had to go with the Denali I wanted the full screen, coming from the old 2004 Colorado to this much bigger pickup, I'm using the cameras to make sure I am in the lanes. I don't have the time on anything while having the cameras on, not on driver's information screen with the 11 inch, simple to have right next to outside temp. Have to ask Google for the time and that interrupts the music.

[@ToddCotta]

No clock? That's weird. But glad you like your new truck! Thanks for watching!

[@virajrockybhutani8367]

I agree with all your issue’s of the truck plus I would have appreciated a Panoramic roof & the most important that I would have liked a small light on the doors when they are open at night . They didn’t even put a reflector on the doors . I just picked up by black Denali 4 days ago . It’s a hazard at night when the door is open on a busy road . My 1999 Benz has a small light on the door when it is opened at night . My 1999 Mercedes roadster has a t

[@ToddCotta]

Never even thought about door reflectors. Great idea!

[@diver165]

I gotta say I've got an F250 w/ power sliding rear window. I can count on one hand with fingers left over the number of times I have opened/closed it. And one of those was at the dealer when I bought the truck saying, "oh cool a power rear sliding window". I do agree with the lack of storage. The Canyon/Colorado doesn't have much storage in it at all. My wife views it as a good thing as I back my truck full of crap I won't see again until I buy another truck 10yrs later.

[@ToddCotta]

I have to say, I agree about the storage stuff, but I have load straps, and hitches that need to be protected. Rear sliding window, is a nothingberger for me also. Thanks for watching!

[@cesardelamoraalvarez5804]

Im thinking on buying one. I have not experience negotiating with a dealership. Any tip in the negotiation for this truck ? like how close to MSRP did you pay? PS: Great video !

[@ToddCotta]

I was $500 under MSRP. Keep looking.

[@mariagiordano3902]

what do you think would happen if you got a display and plugged it in , I know Ive done things like that before in the past and sometimes it worked out , sometimes the logic isn't there to support it , I think it would work. Now if andre from TFL put a steering wheel that had adaptive controls on it I think he would need the cpu flashed at a minimum. in my day Ive gone to junkyards and plucked things off cross models and made them work or sometimes found out it won't work , At some point I think someone will sell a 11 inch upgrade for the info screen . One time for my truck I had a basic rear view mirror just glass and wanted the on star with the map lights so I picked one up off a sedan at a junk yard and it worked beautiful and looked stock, the harness was even there for power I couldn't be more happy, then I realized they dont make 10 harnesses for lesser opted vehicles there just laying dead sometimes and sometimes you get lucky. yes your right there just trying to push people to the higher trims levels , but i agree the info screen is in your face and you have to look at it every minute so why not be 11 inch when it could be. If i was you I would find a way to stow the baggage in the rear bed there is a way and they make the bass module by kicker for the useless under seat cause thats about all its good for is an 8 inch sub. Im not going to get bummed out with sliding rear glass when I have 5 other windows that I can control. The screen would annoy me and have to get figured out.

[@ToddCotta]

Like I said in the video I never use my rear slider. But some do. I don't want to bother with the screen like that. My next project is a dash GoPro mount behind the screen. Thanks for watching!

[@PJ-gp2hj]

The homelink/garage opener is an odd omission. Is it cost or safety? Have you added an after market transmitter?

[@ToddCotta]

Yeah I wish they had that in the top end Canyon trucks. But nope.

[@WheresTex]

Thank you for mentioning lane centering (or lack there of) - I'll never understand why they can't include that.

[@ToddCotta]

Yes, it makes no sense. Thanks for watching

[@sluggo48313]

Great review. I've been going back and forth between AT4 loaded and Denali. I'm probably going to go Denali for the cluster and ventilated seats. Didn't realize no "home link" in either. My last five vehicles ranging from a Chrysler 200 to a Mazda CX-5 all had that standard. GM should've copied the Honda Ridgeline back seat. Flips completely up and leaves a flat floor. You can put a bicycle in the back seat of a Ridgeline.

[@ToddCotta]

Good choice! Yes Homelink would have been nice. I don't know what GM is thinking. Plus no folding rear seat really sucks. I wanted to put a base sub woofer behind the seat but it was a no go. SMH Thanks for watching!

[@leonardocampello2640]

I just got my canyon Denali last week i was thinking to get the at4 but I didn’t like the 8” cluster but I was surprised that the Denali is the same regarding to the back slide window. Well I would be nice to have it powered but I can survive so other than that I can’t complain I love my truck

[@ToddCotta]

Good choice! Hope you love it!

[@bobbysmith9411]

Great input of what GM could change and make a $50k truck more functional and premium for the amount of $$$$ it cost. Def need a power back window and folding seat

[@ToddCotta]

Yup! Thanks for watching!

[@MXP90DL]

Never heard 2.7L being called a beast. Glad you like it. Still not going for a test drive in it. 😢

[@ToddCotta]

Don't knock it until you have tried it. It is a pretty fun motor. What is the harm in taking a demo out for a spin?? You realize the Ranger and Taco are all going 4cyl right? Thanks for watching!

[@stevecreason]

I agree on the instrument cluster and the back seat that doesn't fold flat those items are absolutely deal breakers for me. That's why I buy we'll buy the 2024 Ford Ranger.

[@ToddCotta]

Great choice! They have a new design change coming. Thanks for watching!

[@dinocrocetti2950]

Ordered and waiting on my 2024 Denali. My complaint before I even got it was the manual rear slide window. And no shocks for the front hood when opening . Coming from a 2020 F 150 which I love the ride but just don’t need the size . I know I’ll miss the room in the rear but my question do you think I’ll still like the ride ? I think the seat height is close to the same ? Anyway thanks for the review a year late but I’ve been watching them all on KZbin. Hope my wait isn’t much longer closing in on 2 months

[@ToddCotta]

for 36 bucks on amazon you can get awesome hood struts. I did a video on mine they work great!

[@KREllis-vr1ix]

I dont think youre cluster is bad. Its a really good cluster. The WT cluster is actually way too much for a entry level work truck. Id rake an analogue cluster on my WT trim if they were available.

[@ToddCotta]

I guess GM agrees with me. They are totally ditching the 8 inch screen in 2024. So looks like we were test mules for the Canyon/Colorado trucks for GM. I don't know why they went to all that effort to make two different ones, when it would have been about the same costs with out the engineering, and double ordering of two different clusters. Oh well, I still love my truck. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@RP-ie3qh]

dude, you saved me a lot of money. that back seat was my problem also. really hope you have the $$ to do a review on the 2024 tacoma trd pro or trailhunter.

[@ToddCotta]

I just reviewed the 2021 Tacoma. I would love to be able to get my hands on a 2024 as soon as possible. I think they're doing great things over there at Toyota. Thanks for watching.

[@adamh2203]

I hope someone comes out with a latch/hinge kit for the rear seat seatback. The jack owns all the underseat storage.

[@ToddCotta]

That would be awesome. I would buy that in a heartbeat! Thanks for commenting!

[@ScallywagBeowulf]

I’ve had my AT4 for maybe about a month or so and I think my biggest gripe literally falls on the gauge cluster not being the full 11” across like the Denali and AT4X gets. I’m hoping in the future maybe there will be a way to either upgrade to the full gauge cluster or to “hack it” myself and just update it from something online. Hopefully, they can fix that, because it’s quite literally my only complaint with the truck so far. It’s overall been a great truck to own and I’ve loved driving it. Thanks again for your reviews, Tod!

[@ToddCotta]

There is no Hack, and according to the GM help line there is no retrofit of the larger screen available. I know for a fact that is not true. It is just a new driver cluster, and software update. My problem is, I could not be more that a few dollars more for the 11 inch compared to the 8 inch. They are just doing that to make us yearn for the most expensive trucks. The Silverado and Sierra LT and above all l have the large screen. Just because it is a mini truck, does not mean we don't deserver the nice stuff too. I agree with you on every point.

[@ScallywagBeowulf]

@@ToddCotta That’s pretty dumb honestly. While I’m not going to hold out that we can somehow get it in the future, I would love to have it. I almost got every package on my AT4, except for the sports bar one. I would have thought that maybe the 11” screen would have MAYBE been an extra add on or something, but GMC just wants me to pay more for their Denali I guess. Ah well, if the only thing I’m complaining about is the dash, then I think I have a pretty good truck for me. It’s just one of those things you’d think they might give to every model, but I think you’re entirely right about them wanting people to buy the Denali/AT4X.

[@ToddCotta]

I would have gotten a Denali, but it was not offered in Desert Sand Metallic. That was the deal breaker for me. Have a great summer!

[@okienightstalker3145]

The ZR2 gets the full size gauge cluster. Some of the metallic paints are no upcharge on the ZR2 and it comes with a spray in bed liner as well. Thats a $1000 bucks in upgrades on the other trucks.

[@brewsterjepsen7921]

can you get a front end leveling kit for these?

[@ToddCotta]

Pretty simple kit that should be universal. It is almost level stock. Thanks for watching!

[@mikebartoli4755]

Great review... I think GMC was listening to you!

[@ToddCotta]

I really think all KZbin channels combined made GM change some things. I wish for a few more upgrades like folding rear seat backs.

[@mikebartoli4755]

@@ToddCotta probably but it's people like you who make their voices heard that actually makes a difference. Maybe you could retrofit a rear seat from a different model?

[@ryrymckelvey3]

I live in Visalia. Cool to see Tulare lake!

[@ToddCotta]

Hello neighbor! Glad to hear from another CV resident!!!

[@Andy12469]

My left ear loves this.

[@ToddCotta]

Yes I know I had audio issues. I tried to mitigate them so sorry about that. Thanks for watching!

[@martyglapa359]

You have AT tires, but it looks like factory sends them with MTs? How did you get ATs?

[@ToddCotta]

It is an Optional add on. Didn't ask just came with the Wranglers

[@martyglapa359]

@@ToddCotta I see the ATs now, standard load rating, on the GM online build site, I missed them before as I was looking for the LT tires for off roading.

[@leonardocampello2640]

Also thanks for all the videos your doing about it I search a lot about this new canyon one think you didn’t mention but in Canadá since is metric system there’s no way to change the units only for the tires it only show in kpa which I hate

[@ToddCotta]

I am not familiar with KPA. I have not tried to change to metric. Thanks for watching!

[@jima3120]

Ridgeline rear seat backs don’t fold down either. But the jack is in the rear bed and under seat storage is good.

[@ToddCotta]

Sounds great!!!! Thanks for watching

[@spudtrooper621]

I agree with the issues but I'm loving my Canyon AT4. Im coming from a 2001 Sierra so talk about a gigantic leap. My biggest complaint is there is not enough cushion and the hard plastic on the door. I'm constantly readjusting my left arm to find more comfortable positions.

[@ToddCotta]

Yes for many that is a problem. Thanks for watching!

[@lzz7371]

Good video. Been looking at the AT4. Unbelievable no power sliding rear window. My 22 Tacoma has it.

[@ToddCotta]

Cost cutting is a real thing. I hate how GM thinks just because it is a smaller truck it is not as important and the Sierra or Silverado. Why can't they make both the truck sizes awesome?? Thanks for watching!

[@mr.unknowncali-life9350]

Nice I live 40 min away from here , am waiting for the 2024 Toyota Tacoma off road but I do like at4

[@ToddCotta]

Howdy neighbor! That new Tacoma looks awesome! Can't wait to drive one! Thanks for watching!

[@Matoozy14]

Ordered a 2024 AT4 I’m sure it will take 6+ months but your videos helped me decide on one…I guess your complaint about the infotainment worked because they are making the larger gauge cluster standard across the board on the 2024 trims.

[@ToddCotta]

Yeah, lucky me. I get the smaller stuff because I wanted the truck first. I am happy GM listened.

[@NorthPaddle]

I turn my lights off almost daily. I share a rural driveway. When I go in or out after dark, I drop down to parking lights as a courtesy to my neighbor. In my truck I can just flip a switch (without looking) to kill the lights. The Canyon requires tapping through a menu on the screen. PITA. I will concede it's a great looking truck. But headlight controls are pretty basic and should be a physical switch for me.

[@ToddCotta]

The light switch is not inside of the infotainment system. It's simply a button on the front top screen. It takes about 2 seconds to turn the lights off. There's no menus to go through. Thanks for commenting!

[@user-nd2ue8ic3u]

How is towing with canyon. Specifically taking boat out of water. Any issues

[@ToddCotta]

I have a towing video up on my channel. No boats yet though. thanks for watching!

[@Scout819]

With the cluster, what I find odd also is you seem to be only able to get the big cluster in the ZR2 for the Chevy's. If you want the higher trips to have a different cluster, that's fine, that's fine. But rather than doing a smaller all-digital cluster that looks like poop cause it doesn't fill the space, make it a hybrid digital/analog, and let your Denali have the all digital. The smaller one just looks like an afterthought. I think what would've worked is have you "work truck" cluster, a mid range cluster(such as the hybrid I mentioned above), then your high end cluster for you ZR2/Denali/AT4X.

[@ToddCotta]

Great observations. My thing is the larger cluster could not be more than a few bucks to upgrade at the factory level. Either way they have to buy the cluster. They are just trying to milk more money out of buyers. If GMC is supposed to be the "Premium Grade" trucks, then make them premium! Thanks for watching!

[@smallgiant6064]

I have an AT4X on order but no news yet. I do wish that they went with a coil rear end. Better ride more control, more articulation. That's my big thing, especially now that every manufacturer is move to it. Its just better. I was considering the Ranger Raptor, which will be a bit better off road, but no ventilated seats and long wait time(maybe with all GMs problems)

[@ToddCotta]

That AT4X is going to be awesome. Yes the rear suspension could be better. But these are really good trucks. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@davidgroff3355]

I have a AT4X, rides great, gas mileage 19, nt broken in yet. Power is awesome, chugs

[@Claystation4249]

What’s your mpg looking like at about 75 mph?

[@ToddCotta]

18.5-19 mpg

[@jorgecervantespartida8929]

Thank you for the videos. Would it be possible if you can reach out to GM and request for an option of selling the crew cab with the six- foot bed?

[@ToddCotta]

I wish GM cared about my opinion. They may get commerical vehicle buyers to complain if they see their fleet sales decline. Plus Toyota is keeping the 6ft bed . That will make GM think about longer beds on their trucks. Thanks for watching!

[@NickGiordano-zu4em]

did you experience the over the air update battery draining issues ? seems like allot of people were affected

[@ToddCotta]

Yesterday morning my truck was dead. So was my buddy's Canyon. Looks like it effected me also.

[@NickGiordano-zu4em]

@@ToddCotta sorry to hear that , what a cluster fuck ,I heard its happening to other models to, from what one guy said you cant jump it you have to charge it or the truck spazzes out or the brakes won't work.

[@calebclark6739]

I agree. There is also lack of storage with the center console. I just can’t spend $50k for it. But, the full size trucks are $65k

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for commenting!

[@terryjones8360]

Do you like the roll up tonneau cover? It also needs the upgraded tailgate, like the big boy GMCs have...

[@ToddCotta]

I love the roll up cover best I've ever had. But when it comes to the tailgate i had the multi-pro tailgate and didn't like it. I really prefer the tailgate I got in this truck with the storage compartment. If I could get this on a full-size Silverado I would prefer this over the multi-pro or multi-flex tailgate

[@terryjones8360]

@@ToddCotta what brand is the roll up? I have a full size Sierra Denali and I really like the tailgate. To each his own… I’m going to trade my Sierra Denali for the Canyon Denali as soon as the one I want hits the dealer.

[@ToddCotta]

It is the Bak Industries Revolver x4s Love it.

[@Robert8455]

Yup and Yup. Even with these short comings, people will still buy and that is EXACTLY why GM Cost accountants can slice out a few dollars here and there. Power rear slider, hood struts, under hood light, LED lights all around, folding rear seat, usable storage under rear seat, home link and would make this good truck really great for only a few bucks more. But they don't want that. They just want you to buy it over the competition.

[@ToddCotta]

You would think an AT4 would be the same setup from the Sierra to the Canyon, but NOPE! It would have been a GREAT truck, not just a smaller truck with less features. They always wonder why Tacoma beats them, its because they do things like this. I still love my truck, but yeah, GM could have done much better. I do really wish the back seat folded down but that not going to happen. Have a great day!

[@briancristoni8413]

Yeah the rear power slider is an option on the Z71 and i assume the AT4 as well

[@ToddCotta]

Not on the Canyon or Colorado. But yes on Sierra and Silverado trucks. Thanks for watching!

[@waynespicer89]

Presume you have a power passenger seat ? Colorado buyers don't have that option and you need a periscope if you are sitting in the passenger seat so you can see out over the dash. Great job on calling out the things GM should have done right in the first place.

[@ToddCotta]

Yes power both sides. Very convenient. Thanks for watching!

[@MIZUNOMP60]

The trend these days is manufacturers cutting corners and prices keep increasing. This Canyon certainly looks good, no question. However, something like a Honda Ridgeline isn't as "cool" but is way more comfortable, drives better and has more roomy comfortable back seats. It also has decent rear storage with the seat cushions flipped up. Yea it's not a pack leader for towing, hauling but as a daily driver midsize truck it's still imo the one to beat. I'll be interested to see the reviews on the new upcoming Tacoma.

[@ToddCotta]

The Ridgeline has come a long way. I sat in one a few months back. It is a great truck. But, I believe it has a shroud of "Metro suburbia" surrounding it and not for work or heavy duty. This turns of traditional truck buyers. Thanks for joining the conversation!

[@joebrito2066]

I agreed! It’s ridiculous that GM didn’t add the full LED Cluster and power slide rear window in the GMC that is their premium brand.

[@ToddCotta]

Looks like they are changing at least the 11 inch screen for 2024

[@johnwhitneykokalis9990]

I love my new 2023 2wd Canyon Elevation its black on black and that color looks awsome on this body styling. Personally I could care less about the back seat because I only put groceries and luggage back there. I also have been getting (after driving 1200 miles) an average of 21 mpg combining city and hwy milage. Its a joy to drive and the 8 speed transmission is silky smooth compared to my old 2019 Sierra. As of now I have not seen any 2023s on the road in the Fort Worth TX area.

[@ToddCotta]

Awesome! Glad you like your truck. Yes I have not seen any in my county either. Thanks for watching!

[@johnwhitneykokalis9990]

@@ToddCotta one of my favorite KZbin subscriptions. May good health and wellbeing abound.

[@rstspecos]

Do you like the hard roll bed topper? I have a Canyon on order, and that will be my first thing to get. I have the fold one on my F150 but don’t like how it blocks the mirror if you have it up

[@ToddCotta]

I have the rollup from Bak Insustries. X4s I LOVE it. if you watch the part where I am talking about the bed of the truck it only covers half of the window. So fare I think its the best cover I have every gotten. Highly recommended. Thanks for asking!

[@mikebrand4717]

Just curious I'm going to look at one in a couple days. How much did you end up spending our the door?

[@SystemHacker23]

I guess they heard you and everyone else who mentioned that they should include the 11" digital cluster. According to GM Authority, 2024 AT4 models will include that as standard option.

[@ToddCotta]

Well that's not good for us. 23 guys that got screwed then is it? But yes I agree you spend this much money on a premium truck. You should get premium parts.

[@SystemHacker23]

@@ToddCotta Absolutely. I think a rule of thumb is to wait for the second year new gen releases so all bugs and shortcomings get sorted. Regardless, great review! You really brought up good points and it's this type of feedback (as well as competitive pressure) that helps the consumer at the end.

[@NJNick325]

Picked up my AT4 and maybe I am missing it in the settings....but it appears the truck doesn't have a front parking alert?...have the premium package and the rear alert is there but nothing in the front....collision alert is there but no parking alert?....am I missing something??

[@ToddCotta]

You have the front camera but no front sensors. the Sierra AT4 has it and i assumed the Canyon would too, but it DOES NOT. SMH. Thanks for watching!

[@NJNick325]

@@ToddCotta not the end of the world but @48k you would think that was a no brainer...it's become a very standard spec. in vehicles costing much less....thanks GM

[@donaldweller460]

I went to my local gmc dealership yesterday to look at the AT4. Wile I was there, I mentioned to the salesman that a lot of people are concerned about the headlight switch being on the infotainment screen. People are concerned if the screen dies will you still have headlights. He told me that a rep from GM told him yes you would still have headlights , that it was wired different. To witch I said then you should be able to add switch if you wanted too and he said yes. I don't know if he is correct you may want to check it out with GM.😊

[@ToddCotta]

I have not seen or heard anything about adding a manual switch to the trucks. It doesn't bother me because mine are on auto and the truck will not really work at all with the screen off. But yes there is comfort in manual switches for sure. Funny how Tesla owners never complain about it. Thanks for watching!

[@donaldweller460]

All I am trying to say is if the salesman information is correct, then anyone could add a switch if they wanted too. Iam fine with it I always have mine on automatic

[@benlittlechilds1192]

Gas milage is the biggest concern for me when I consider a new vehicle next year. I would take this over the Taco though.

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for watching!

[@brianschott8162]

I think all of your complaints are probably cost-cutting measures from GM. I agree with your complaints about the gauge packages.. All of the model lines in the Canyon/Colorado line should have the full usage of the driver gauge pod. Also, that manual window slider is lame.. Also a cost-cutting measure no doubt.

[@ToddCotta]

Cost cutting? You mean profit increasing because this truck was $50k. Cutting costs should mean cheaper trucks. But no we are taking it in the rear. Thanks for watching!

[@gordmonteath6090]

I live up just outside Edmonton alberta. I've been following every GMC and GM dealer in area ( about 10 dealer) .Between them all I believe there's been maybe 4 Canyons arrive to dste and very few Colorado's and only low end models. Everything has been " shipping " for over 2 months. I'm seriously thinking now about waiting till 2024's arrive. Hopefully a few of your suggested tweaks will be on the 24's. These protracted shipping delays have me a bit leery about hidden issues

[@ToddCotta]

Thanks for sharing! I don't know why they are so delated up in the northlands.

[@franksalazar2628]

curious if you have had any of the issues that the Colorado is having..

[@ToddCotta]

Well my truck is dead in my driveway right now. Over air update made the battery drain.

[@franksalazar2628]

@@ToddCotta looks like a bug they have to fix for the future..

[@elsecre1234]

I ordered the canyon denali in junuary and in February it was already manufactured, so far I don't know where it will arrive, I have asked the dealer many times and they can not give me an answer, you do not know why they are delaying the delivery so much?. Thank you

[@ToddCotta]

Truck drivers and fuel prices have the shipping industry in a mess right now. Should not take too much longer as long as you are not from Canada. That is a whole other mess

[@matthewmcnulty698]

Would You Still recommend the canyon at4

[@ToddCotta]

Absolutely love it. No regrets. Just wish it had more luxury's for the price. Thanks for watching!

[@loriendastafford1760]

Talk about the back seat failures, there appears to be no foot and leg room there either!! The seat back is attached to the cab wall, the bed is too short, looks like the driver seat is all GM was concerned with

[@ToddCotta]

I agree 100% Thanks for watching!

[@dlg5485]

Coil springs are far less capable than leafs which is why leafs make more sense on a truck. Some trucks are going to coils but their payload suffers as a result. As nice as trucks are getting, they're still trucks so the carrying capability needs to come first.

[@ToddCotta]

I agree, but coils have come a long way also. Thanks for commenting!

[@ethenjordan2010]

I agree. Who REALLY cares and touches their headlights. If that’s the biggest nitpick then they did something great. However, maybe I haven’t figured it out. But you have to turn the fog lights on every single time. I want them on all the time. That’s just me. I have the Denali so the cluster for me is no big deal. The sliding window should be power. That’s my only real thing for me.

[@ToddCotta]

Still can't see why people need fog lamps in day time when there are daylight running lights always on. Thanks for watching.

[@ironworkerlarry9223]

The fact the headlights are on the entertainment system worries me. Do the lights automatically turn on?

[@ToddCotta]

Yes they are auto lights. It is super easy to turn on and off. I was worried a bit, but I drive a Tesla also and there are no physical buttons, so if it is so good for Tesla, why is it so bad for GM? Thanks for watching!