Do I Regret leaving Canon for Sony (1 Year Later)

[@luis.hermosillo]

Canon fan boy that left to Sony FX3s because of compact size, and sony listening to their audience, low light base iso and AF.. I do miss the canon look /colors from the C70 & that C80 with internal NDs has me struggling if I should switch back. Does the C80 have the same soft filmic look the C70 has? I just feel like ive never been 100% satisfied with sony look.

[@connormccaskill]

The C80 is rad, but you’d have to rent it to really know if it’s to your liking. They switched up the sensor from the C70

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

I also recently switched to Sony. However, not because of the cameras - to put it bluntly, they're only mediocre - but because of the Sigma lenses, which are so affordable and good. If Canon opened up their mount, they would completely take over the camera market. By the way, if you're ever not satisfied with Sony anymore, Nikon cameras can adapt Sony E-mount lenses with full autofocus with an adapter.

[@mohmmedahmed23]

👍

[@ApertureO9V]

Same, traded an R5 R6 a trinity of zooms and a handful of entry primes for a Sony kit. Sony bodies are mediocre, but glass is irreplaceable. And I can afford 2x as much now

[@NotEconomicallyViable]

This video came at the perfect time for me. Built my channel to this point on GoPros and currently a DJI Pocket 3, but now ready for a ‘proper’ camera. I don’t have a horse in the race and don’t have to worry about switching systems. Currently leaning towards a C80, but worried once Sony responds it’ll just blow it out the water! Thanks for the insights

[@connormccaskill]

Absolutely! There aren’t really bad options these days, just preferences. You’ll have to comeback and let me know what you end up choosing!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Think of lenses. Lens ecosystem will make a bigger difference than the camera. Congrats on the growth.

[@connormccaskill]

@@BrandonTalbot 100%

[@JaredHoyman]

No judgement Cam & Connor if you come back to Canon. We’ll treat you like the prodigal son and have our arms wide open to embrace you. The R5 II will be your welcoming home gift. 😊

[@connormccaskill]

Hahaha! Well I appreciate the welcoming community

[@squidward3333]

Recently switched over to Sony. An FX3 and 2 A7RVs. I came from using 2 GH5s', and an R6. I was adapting EF glass with metabones. The difference in my ecosystem is night and day. I now have Sigma E mount lenses that work across all my cameras natively. Ultimate versatility for photo/video jobs. I can have an FX3 handheld, an A7RV on a gimbal, and an A7RV for photos for event days. And the ability to move them to whatever job I see fit that day. The Sony autofocus that is similar between both photo/video is wonderful. Love the megapixel count for the A7RV. Love the lowlight performance and 120p from the FX3. Love Slog 3. I do think Canon grips are comfier, but with the Smallrig cages, they give more room for the pinky. Glad for Canon that they're competing with new cameras- but no 3rd-party RF glass is a deal breaker. Also love using Caleb's cinebacks for continuous battery life and fantastic handheld design, allowing for great autofocus while handheld. So glad I switched.

[@connormccaskill]

That sounds like a great setup you've built!

[@luis.hermosillo]

@@connormccaskill i can agree with this. Im an FX3 owner that switched from canon and I love the cineback it reminds me of me of when i was shooting red komodo and I actually forget its an fx3 with lots of mounting options for customization. I even returned my FX6 after trying the cineback.

[@boundaryscience]

I think the biggest difference between Sony and every other camera company is that Sony welcomes criticism. This goes back to the absolute beginning as a company, before they were Sony, when they were TTK. Norio Ohga wrote a scathing letter detailing all of the flaws in the tape recorder he had just purchased and TTK, rather than placating, or ignoring him, hired him and eventually made him president. Tony and Chelsea Northrup have said in the past when they give negative reviews of Canon or Nikon, they get blacklisted for a period, while when they give negative reviews to Sony, they get asked what they can do to fix that issue in a future model and it never affects their relationship with the company. Sony isn't without sin, but there's a reason they've got such a good reputation with critics.

[@lbeetech]

You actually believe that. Where are the Sony firmware updates?

[@boundaryscience]

@@lbeetech I already noted that they were not without sin, but in this regard, Canon and Nikon have gotten a lot of credit for releasing cameras that couldn't do the things promised and then fixing them later while throwing in a few extras to smooth things over. All of my Sonys have done exactly what they promised. I don't purchase products based on potential, and I wouldn't suggest for others to do so, either. Note that my Nikon Zf worked great out of the box and it hasn't gotten anything new since I got it.

[@lbeetech]

@boundaryscience Photographers need to come back to the profession of photography. A camera is a tool, and in the current environment, people are looking for equipment to make them better. That has never been the truth. We barely use 20% of the features that new mirrorless cameras have. If people learned to use the cameras that we already have fully, the camera companies would go out of business. There will always be plusses and minuses with brands compared to each other.

[@Guillaume9]

Hello, common mistake, the RF mount is exactly the same size as EF, that's why the RF mount has a unique style of "baïonnette" that make caps hard to put on. With that you wouldn't put an ef on an rf mount and destroy your sensor or just not the good flange distance. Only Nikon has made a bigger mount, well the biggest of the FF mirrorless ounts

[@kylewithacamera]

how is this channel not bigger. Consistently putting out relevant, quality reviews

[@connormccaskill]

I really appreciate the kind words! I’m hoping the YT algorithm will cut me a break soon

[@davidettel22]

I enjoyed the layout and setup of this review. Absolutely agree on the community factor, thanks for your inside!

[@connormccaskill]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

The weird thing the Sony A99 and A77 A-Mount cameras had amazing grips. I shoot the Olympus OMD E-M1ii and that camera has a really nice grip. I'm not promoting M43 but if you have a chance try the grip it feels really good in the hands. I have the Panasonic Lumix GH4 and that camera has a good grip but not as good as Olympus. Who ever is designing these E-Mount cameras needs to take a page for A-Mount cameras.

[@connormccaskill]

I’ve never used those cameras, but if that’s the case, then absolutely! These E-Mount cameras need a redesign

[@reyjes]

Oh em geee! That's right! I had an A77 and had no complaints about the grip at all!

[@vidthreenorth4007]

You might find the Sony a1ii more comfortable. I use Sony and Lumix, but I would like to try Nikon someday. The Nikon can use Sony with a 3rd party adapter, and that seems to be working adequately.

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

Sony did not go with a larger mount because E-Mount was really designed for crop sensor cameras. And Sony when they went full frame really did not want to redesign a new mount system and I guess piss off the first Sony E-Mount buyers it would had been bad press. But I think they could have done a new mount if they really wanted to. The only camera I can see people getting mad is if they bought the Sony NEX 7. All the other NEX cameras are kind of like little hobby cameras. I think there was the Sony NEX 6 that might have had a viewfinder also.

[@thekofi1]

I think it was short sighted of Sony to cram FF sensors into E-mount. Sure they would've gotten a bit of bad press (especially given their previous reputation of abandoning platforms), but Canon wisely abandoned their EF-M Mount, Nikon abandoned their 1 inch sensor mount and I think with the bigger E-mount would've come much better IBIS and probably an easier time designing exotic lenses. But well, it's too late for them now.

[@RandumbTech]

Prob smart to wait and see what Sony comes up with next. If the next batch of cameras doesn’t offer open gate, might be time to look elsewhere.

[@connormccaskill]

LUMIX 🤫

[@thekofi1]

Great video Connor! I also think a lot of what you said about the size of E-mount relative to RF mount is true, but actually does the larger mount make it easier to design more compact large lenses? I'd say that Sony actually make more lighter and/or compact equivalent lenses to Canon's offerings (the 1.4 range, 50mm F1.2, 28-70 F2). Also, the larger mount does mean the rear of the lens has to match the lens mount (though I suppose what Sigma did with the 18-50 2.8 for the RF mount is always an option). Where I do 100% agree is that in theory you can design lenses with wider apertures for RF and Z mount than E-mount (though somewhere I think Sony claimed that he E-mount supports a maximum aperture of f/0.63). Finally, IMO the undisputed massive advantage of the larger mounts are their IBIS (though some Sony users will disagree, but evidence does seem to suggest the bigger mount allows for a more powerful IBIS system). Also, you have to think that certain lenses must be quite a challenge to overcome to design, given the restriction of the E-mount.

[@connormccaskill]

Yeah tbh I’m not sure how much of the “larger mount” is marketing, but e-mount was definitely designed for crop sensors at the end of the day. It would be really interesting to see a large mount from Sony, but I doubt it at this point

[@thekofi1]

@@connormccaskill Yes you're definitely right about it being designed for crop sensors, and it's a shame Sony didn't make the sacrifice of moving over to a bigger sensor when going FF. Great video again!

[@amermeleitor]

For an hybrid use Nikon seems better and better. Cheaper than Sony and you can adapt sony lenses too.

[@Adreno23421]

But if you want 4k60p there is only APS-C or more costly options available.

[@amermeleitor]

​​​@@Adreno23421 ¿?¿? What do you mean? I don't understand. Are you talking about Nikon? Check the Z6III, raw 6.2k, 4k60fps, 4K120fps, 1080p240fps, etc. And cheaper than Sony

[@connormccaskill]

Yeah Nikon’s been stepping up their game!

[@amermeleitor]

@@connormccaskill do you think it makes sense to switch to Nikon? My Sony have 122.000 shutter actuations and I'm thinking about a new one, but Sony bodies for hybrid use are too costly or lacking specs. A Z6III plus an E to Z adapter seems to be the sweet spot for hybrid use

[@vladimirtalijan]

Seems like it's personal, Playstation controller is way better in my hands than the Xbox one, and the same is with cameras, Canon is way more comfortable than Sony in my hands, no matter if it's 5D mark III, R6 II, R3 or C70/C80 :) Actually the most important things, image and erconomics are on Canons side for me, and I always feel like Sony cameras are made for aliens, not humans, and that makes sense because Sony is really a tech company and their cameras are more gadgets full of features than sophisticated cinematographer oriented tools like Canon is. That's why their actual image progressed the least, it's like they have never watched Alexa footage, and this video is a perfect example, plastic unnatural typical Sony.

[@mbismbismb]

Agreed i feel nasty when holding a sony lol

[@Sqeezy3]

I don't believe that the larger RF of Z mount allow something, that cannot be done on E mount. It may be easier, but why should it be impossible. Full frame is the same size and all mounts cover Full frame. I think Canon did that as marketing strategy and Nikon as Well, because it's easy marketing, same as more megapixels in phones. The Z mount has a great advantage in it's size, you can use E mount glass on Z mount, because you can fit E mount lens inside the Z mount.

[@SeaBeeDave71]

I switched from canon to Fuji and Lumix a couple years ago. Biggest reason.......price.

[@connormccaskill]

Yeah I can't argue with that ha

[@ollimustonen]

I'm hobbyist and wanted great camera. I had Canon M50 and couple Sigma primes. They are great but for action they suck and I got tired of switching lenses all the time and the lack of longer focal length. So... I got Sony A9 and Tamron 35-150mm F2-2.8 used for 2300€. Got 800€ from my M50 and lenses. You just can't get kit like that in Canon ecosystem.

[@thatchinaboi1]

All the other cameras mentioned give you the additional features such as open gate and raw video recording because they can't compete with the sensor they have in their cameras. Every spec seems on par or better than Sony video centric full frame cameras EXCEPT for the sensor readout speed.

[@amermeleitor]

@@thatchinaboi1 ¿?¿? Nikon Z8, Z9, Z6III, Fuji XH2S, Canon R3, R1, R5II, have very good readout speeds

[@HARLYDAVIDZ]

Im thinking off canon r5 m2 or sony a2 witch is better and why??

[@doktorr23]

R5mkii. Does 99.9% of what the A1 mkii does and cost way less.

[@Ben_Stewart]

I haven't used Sony but I do use their sensors for Astro work in purpose built cameras. If you want to try Nikon Z8/9 you can rent it and get the adapter for Sony E to Z mount. The Canon A1_2 was pretty lack luster and Nikon Z9 just came out with new free firmware. Plus it's due for a refresh and with the acquisition of Red you can bet that they will be putting those Global Sensors into Nikon body's.

[@germancreatives88]

i dontunderstand they dont like nikon, its the only camera with internal prores raw and gh7

[@connormccaskill]

I do like Nikon

[@nick-dm3if]

i just hopped on the sony train, i messed up and got a used a7c, while its not bad I just hate the viewfinder and no 10 bit and its just not that fun to use menu wise. I'm jumping straight to the a7s iii I do agree, not as comfy and it never will be, but nothing can beat the fuji ill continue on my h2s and I'm going to try sony for a while and see.

[@Hexlord]

Nice video although I find it fascinating that people do switch systems often on a regular basis. A bit of patience is pretty okay especially although if one is on Lumix FF maybe that's a challenging thing haha.

[@sardanapalos]

thats a well rounded opinion...i left lumix for sony (i still use the s5iix occasionally) but the fact that lumix has so much bugs made me leave...sony is much more better system and seems that is more focused on video...as a company , not that lumix isn't but lumix has not probably the money to make the big innovation at this point...we ll see

[@grantsparkescarroll]

Loved this honest and no fan boy approach from both of you. It really helps make a decision. The enjoyment factor of holding a ln R5ii is hard to get over. But the Sony makes more sen$e

[@dvdaltizer]

This is the content I want :)

[@connormccaskill]

I want to make more!

[@illegalalien6542]

Proud Canon shooter here. Always have been and always be. Sony cameras overall are pretty mediocre overall if we're being honest and their only redeeming quality is, of course, their lens selection. But the ergonomics are terrible across all Sony cameras and the image quality produced by Sony cameras is average at best. Nikon has always been the definition of wasted potential especially in regards to their lens mounts and Fuji is ok for beginners but in the end a professional or at the very least, a serious hobbyist will definitely need an upgrade to something a bit more robust.

[@connormccaskill]

Hey if you like Canon that’s awesome. I like some of what Canon has done as well. Although to say Sony’s image is “average” is a quite biased I’d say. Sony produces some stellar image quality, but the workflow is a bit different so I think Canon first users don’t know how to work with it. Same if you work with RED, Blackmagic, etc. The post process is pretty different.

[@davey_gravy]

I agree with pretty much everything you guys said

[@KJ4YIG]

Team Sony and side kick system is olympus

[@connormccaskill]

Solid choice

[@DayumMarq]

I think canon's menu looks better like ui wise, but their menu is literally Sony's old menu. Just goes horizontal forever lol. And the mount thing is 100% marketing lol. I left Nikon for sony and that how mount never did anything for me lol. still got 1.8's still got 1.4's and that noct was manual focus so idk how they think that's advanced lol. tbh body and the lack of a "prosumer" stacked sensor is what's bothering me with sony lol. That Nikon z8 and now the canon r5 ii gives me hope that I can get a stacked sensor for $4000. right now we have a1 or a1ii lol and that a1 with no flip screen aint gonna work for me hahaha. wish the a9iii was never a global shutter they destroyed all my plans haha

[@joematiacio3449]

Canon and Sony folks battling, meanwhile this vid is shot on the S9. 😉

[@connormccaskill]

😉

[@ofthenearfuture]

Team Fuji, I'm a masochist lol

[@connormccaskill]

Hahaha

[@lonniesfilmmaking333]

Cheers much for sharing your thoughts and knowledge 😊 I agree that they've got to come up with something "innovative", which is Sony's catchcry in 2025 ❤

[@connormccaskill]

Sony’s got to bring something new to the table!

[@mbismbismb]

Sony community is toxic, all they do all day is uploading youtube comparing sony to other brands especially canon and praise their camera and say sht about canon lol... canon users are too busy making money out there

[@connormccaskill]

I hope you are feeling the irony of this comment lol

[@jamesburne3893]

@@connormccaskill could probably just keep your cheap ass bodies and look like a hobbyist

[@grantsparkescarroll]

Loved this honest and no fan boy approach from both of you. It really helps make a decision. The enjoyment factor of holding a ln R5ii is hard to get over. But the Sony makes more sen$e

[@connormccaskill]

Appreciate you taking the time to comment!