THE PROS AND CONS OF USING SONY (My Honest review after 8 years)

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[@SFzip]

Sony pls listen to a pro photographer of 8-yrs and crush those cons.

[@officialtiimo]

He's been shooting a lot longer than that, he just switched to Sony 8 years ago

[@networm64]

I'm all with him there. Specially the ergonomics. Man Sony 99/77 and other slt cameras felt even better than Canon and Nikon! And firmware update is so essential even for lower tier models. This helps with the user trust to stay with the brand.

[@ridzbaha618]

Totally agreed. Better screen, better firmware update, better ergo. Lots of us still using a7iii, hoping can do eye AF video firmware update + touch menu/zoom etc.

[@RiceCubeTech]

@@ridzbaha618he issue is the processor in the camera. It’s a significantly weaker processor that limits what it can do. I have an a7iii and an a7siii, it’s a tad annoying that my siii doesn’t have some of the same features, but it’s like 4 years old now lol.

[@danymirabal]

😂

[@theoblivious2]

As a Sony and Canon shooter myself, you were the first KZbinr I followed for camera techniques and everyday photography work back in early 2019. Haven't missed a video since. Keep doing what you do. Peace, blessings and cheers to more of your content 🤙

[@atmadeepsen]

I am looking to buy the canon r6 markii or the sony a7iv. Super confused, which one I should go for? I am 60% still photographer and 40% videographer.

[@jediae]

@@atmadeepsen i honestly dont know anything about the r6 but i know sony is really good for video

[@LukeChristopherPhoto]

@@jediae Not a chance, the R6II has much better autofocus, it uses the whole sensor in video and stills, does not have the 4k crop and does not overheat.

[@alansousa2488]

Really, canon has better auto focus than Sony? If yes, probably I will go with canon

[@ksioOmid]

when you can speak this well without a script, that's the passion coming out

[@PlatypusAurelius]

I have been following your channel ever since you first created it and I always appreciate your true, hands-on perspective on gear and on the art of photography. Your success is well deserved brother.

[@robbycastillo7862]

I agree on all points. For me the biggest let down is the lack of timely firmware updates. Hoping Sony can improve on this soon

[@Pasha4ur]

Sony wants sell new cameras. Not free updates

[@robbycastillo7862]

@@internetuseraccount no. Watch Manny's video again and perhaps Gerrard Undone. You are the one confused

[@ipadize]

@@robbycastillo7862 you mean Gerald Undone 😂

[@ipadize]

@@internetuseraccount stop trolling, companies can definitely add new features via updates. Look at the Update that added Timelapse to the A7iii, that i was really happy about.

[@robbycastillo7862]

@@ipadize yes! My bad

[@silentsnipe215]

I don’t know exactly when I started following you. But man you have shown how much hard work pays off. The quality of your videos from not just visual but the output of information you provide for us has dramatically improved. You have been one of my favorite KZbin channels and I would say you made my decision to Sony the right one. As someone who cannot afford more then one system Sony ended being the right choice for me and my wallet lol. Maybe one day as I progress I’ll get to have all the toys I want but for now Sony works for me and everything you stated about the cons I wish will be something they fix in there future cameras. Best wishes as always thank you for all your hard work you do and like everyone here I’m sure greatly appreciate it.

[@wookiee.gunner]

As someone who is tying to decide what brand of camera they want, videos like this one are very helpful. It's always nice to get candid, this is my opinion over the more formalized "review", especially when it is about a brand ecosystem over just a single model.

[@deathrat]

Smart thing to do

[@nicedward7544]

Any camera made in the last 10 years is sufficient honestly. It just depends on which tailors to your needs the best. I still say a used a7Riii is the best camera for the money to anyone trying to get into Sony on a limited budget.

[@Sr7Sr7Sr7]

This video is so helpful man. Really appreciate seeing a highly respected pro’s take, especially when you have extensive experience with both Sony and Canon. And loved the low key honest outro 😂

[@darkstormie2761]

Don't you dare second guess yourself for a second about how long your vids are, or about what your saying to us Manny. We are here for who you are and don't ever change! For me, every time I watch you , its like watching a mate talk about stuff we like to talk about, could sit here and do it all day... Merry Christmas to you and yours!

[@RudyVisuals]

We started getting more serious about photography and videography in late 2019 and it was your channel that really got us into using Sony. An A7III, RIII and an SIII later we're still loving our Sonys! Thanks Manny!

[@thewiseoldbird]

Nice one Manny. Lots of good points. On the ergonomics, I used the Peak Design Clutch V3 and it solves a lot of those feel issues. I can walk with the 200-600mm hanging off my finger tips and I know it's secure (and I'm and old geezer). Lenses - yes, yes, yes. Don't forget Voigtlanders - put one on and you have a Leica! Keep shooting from the lip - it's more fun and comes from the heart which is very you. 💪🏾💪🏾

[@Battlem0nk]

Got my first Sony this week and my pinky seem to have no place to grip like other cameras. Does the Peak Design Clutch hinder button reach?

[@johncastle95]

@Battlem0nk this is an issue I had with my A7III cause im a 6 foot 4 inch monster aka 193cm tall so big hands. The A7IV fixed that problem for me lol

[@RealThore]

@@johncastle95 I still have that issue with my A7iv but I'm a chunky boi and tall as well. I get around with that by using the vertical grip (as I'm mostly shooting portraits) or the Smallrig L bracket when I'm out doing landscape etc

[@storm14k]

@@Battlem0nk chunky handed guy here that's only ever shot MFT, Fuji and now Sony. I guess having never held Canon and Nikon I just hold the camera differently and never think about the free pinky. I almost feel like I'm griping a baseball with my first 3 and thumb and it ends up feeling normal for me. I guess using Canon or Nikon would ruin that for me. 🤣

[@AfrodyteCharlotte]

You are so adorable with your outro's cuz they are always super genuine!!! Please don't ever change!!! 💗

[@matthewappleby8272]

I love your videos and always find the lighting setups in particular really helpful as someone newer to photography. Wish I had a full-time model to test out ideas on like you do in your partner and amazed always at the quality of images you both achieve, keep it up!

[@kentao4]

Very helpful. And I like the off the cuff opinions that don’t sound rehearsed. This was more like a conversation. It literally put to bed deciding the camera I’m going to get next because of some of your points and the fact I don’t really want more than one camera. I’m not a pro, but have definitely come across the issues you mention but most of the time, I thought it was just me. Thanks for the validation and your opinion based on a wealth of experience!

[@ZacBarnesMusic]

really love your channel man. you never miss. keep up the good work!

[@parmanduke]

Manny I've been watching hour channel for years. You're work has always been amazing and you're work is art. You can make anything look amazing regardles of which brand platform you use.

[@SebasCortes.PH.]

Hello, I think your analysis is great and what you have finally noticed using the Sony system. I think the vast majority agree that what is failing in Sony is to see more updates on our cameras, especially those that are older. range, I have the a7 s3 and a7iv.. I also hope that they finally make those small updates. I have very new cameras and they are missing those things that could improve the satisfaction of having this equipment... since I have gone through previous models and I have that same session that they get some update for our cameras hahaha, greetings bro!

[@georgiaboy2023]

been following you for years bro and I don't watch photo KZbin videos as much as I used to but whenever I come back to yours I remember why Im a fan! You've got great technical knowledge but most of all just a dope personality !

[@a.jerrells8736]

Thank you Manny for such an awesome pros and cons review. God bless you and your family. Happy Holidays. 😊

[@starskymedia]

Awesome reflections and thoughts Manny, love your content and have learnt a lot!

[@kaleigh]

We use 5 Sony cameras for our videos (FX3, a7siii, a7iv, a6600, & a6400)! Having the 3 full-frame cameras match is perfect!

[@Finns.Dunder]

Great video as always! Keep up that good energy.

[@visionz_n_media]

I agree. I haven’t had the opportunity to shoot the a1 and a7rv but I have shot with almost everything else since the release of the a7rii. Sony haves something for almost every category with a ton of lens options. I came from Nikon and Canon and quickly adopted Sony when eye af was mentioned with the a7rii. Owning other mirrorless brands, Fujifilm, Nikon and Canon I can see the lack of firmware updates being a nuisance. I too think that firmware updates for new features should trickle down to Sony’s more premium lineups (a1, a7r, a7s, a9). Great video with many valid points. Hopefully Sony listens and makes some adjustments for it’s many users.

[@Nevil_Samnauth]

I honestly appreciate the long videos. It helps me get through cleaning up the house and sorting through old clothes, other things i dont feel like doing 😅

[@korffyboy91]

Thank you for your honesty, for sharing your thoughts and most importantly: that candid ending with all the things on your mind of what to say or not say

[@maartenschot]

Such a chill video again, thanks for that. I can't stand the usual youtube obnoxiousness but he're it's all chill. I appreciate that, also the content of it reaches far beyond great.

[@writhracing1642]

Just love how you keep it real! Your videos are awesome!

Awesome video! I really enjoy this type of feedback because you use your Sony cameras in the "real world" and that makes all the difference. My main camera is a Sony A7rIV and I love it, but there are certain things that I really piss me off! Continue with the great work and Happy Hollidays for you and your family.

[@BSinSeattle]

I’m with you Manny. Had the A7SIII (best low light) and A7R4 then upgraded to the A1 and all my glass is Sony (except the 85 sigma). The A1 is an amazing camera but I feel you on the frustration with the price and lack of features it should have (that tilt screen on the A7R5 tho). So many things Sony needs to do to be a damn near perfect company but yet they are still content with complacency. Love the vids and keep them coming.

[@amitsamakamboj]

First of all Thank you so much for being my inspiration sir ❤️🙏 I've been following your channel for many years now, I am also a professional photographer in India learning from you with your every video. I can't say enough thanks to you. I wish someday I'll also have my own studio space and would love to shoot the way you do. 🙏 Keep making awesome videos. You are the best and your channel is the best channel regarding photoshoots knowledge on KZbin . Thank you 🤗

[@SmartByTravel]

You are really the best, love your videos. Thanks for inspiring me to take my setup to the next level. I appreciate your transparency in tech and you are one of the few people I trust.

[@butlerphotography9879]

Always good stuff! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@PatrickRambles]

Really appreciate your videos, bro.

[@TheThriftCouple702]

Keep it up Manny! 🔥

[@danieljcox]

Great job Manny. Loved your ending!

[@hardikchoudhary2346]

Bro much appreciated your hard work 🙌🙌🙌 keep going ✌🏻

[@stephena4371]

Perfect video to listen to while working on product shots in post. Thanks Manny

[@Cookies205]

Great video Manny! And great point about the lack of firmware support

[@nocturnus009]

Gratitude for another year. As a Nikon user I’m appreciative for the ideas & vectors your contributions have opened up for further exploration. #beardgang

[@draughonc]

Manny, been a while since I last watched one of your vids. Dang, your skill has stepped to another level. That b-roll was sweet.

[@maereanm]

I appreciate the effort you put in your videos. 👍

[@DB-nl9xw]

this is true wisdom, much more than a simple review, thank you so much

[@dragonfist25]

The production work is👌🏾

[@villageblunder4787]

Do one for Canon. And please include a rant about 3rd party lenses.

[@cinnamonopinion]

That outro was amazing ❤‍🔥

[@bigshooter461]

Man that is some pretty serious gear, it's completely understandable you would have a collection of tools that fit your diverse workflow, I am similarily equiped for my occupation as well, it's just not as a Photographer or Cinematographer. I think you make a really strong point about the need for Sony to make Firmware updates for people with flagship cameras when they introduce a new pro-sumer model with new features. Most deffinitly the A7SIII and FX3 AND 30 for sure as well as the A1. I have shot for more than 30 years now as an avid hobbyist after taking photography in highschool so I have great appreciation for everything you are talking about technically, I have never taken my Photography to the level that you work at now, for me it has always been a costly obsession, well maybe more a form of therapy and personal interest. I'm in a different place looking through the lens, I see the world in a different way, more closely, with more tactile awareness of asthetics and design ellements that highlight the essence and appeal of the subject. The way these tools make it possible to capture those ellements and asthetics is vividly appearent to me and for the most part Sony has had me thinking hard about opening up my relationship with Canon. I'm not saying I'd switch and dump my Canon gear, but for high res image quality I have been waiting for Canon to produce a BSI sensor with no AA filter and something around 50mp or better for a while. It's crazy to see all that Sony has brought to market in the last 5 or 6 years, and how fast and far they have pulled into the lead for technology and specs. I'm not one to envy anyone's highlight reel, at least not without real appreciation for the mess on their cutting room floor, which is to say I fully appreciate the thousands of hours invested in honing your craft and hustling to get the work, but it is pretty sweat to see some of that gear and day dream about what it's capable of. The truth is at the end of the day there are times when the S22Ultra in my pocket is the most amazing piece of tech I could dream of. Anyway I'm rambling, thanks for posting this, it's awsome to get a real world hands on review of the pragmatic application for these tools and how they compare to each other.

[@KissFilmNc]

The end what’s amazing 😂 Great video man 💪🏽💪🏽

[@AnotherCupofTea2]

Very helpful Manny, thanks 😎

[@StanShimkus]

Manny, Thank you ... Great video. Your creativity is an inspiration!

[@ErnestStevenson]

Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you!

[@Dan.gibson.photographer]

Great video Manny I shoot Sony since the a100 and now I’m on a a7riv and I love Sony cameras and my 70-200 GM ii is just a game changer 🤩🤩🤩

[@sydneydance]

Good video mate 👍 felt like a little heart to heart with Manny and Sony there 😁🫰🫰

[@sjm.photos]

@manny Ortiz fab video you hit it all on the head there i have used sony sinse they took over konika minolta and worked through the bodies slowly theres a lot to say from where i started and progressed through the early range into the new stuff and i may even do a video on it but you deffo hit the nail on the head. happy christmas.

[@kh1188ish]

Agree with all of it, ergos, firmware. Always enjoy your videos, you are king of awkward endings… love every single one of them!

[@theodoreleher6186]

THAMK U for all your hard work all the best for 2023

[@Vahagraphy]

Kuddos to u man. i like the product slider clips. lighting effects on point.

[@DreySantesson]

Your editing skills are off the chart Manny

[@sammy_sam_leonardo]

Great video Manny! I actually prefer these slightly longer videos, and I think the time and effort you put into your work is amazing… big respect. I wonder how you think the Fujifilm X-H2S stacks up to some of the bodies you mentioned? Obviously the Fujifilm lens lineup although improved significantly (the new primes and the video centric 18-120mm PZ) still lacks behind Sony and the same is true for autofocus… but the features on the X-H2S are incredible. I’ve actually seen a few pro videographers switch from RED’s etc to it - maybe it’s not what you want from a camera for the reasons in the video (totally fair) but is Fujifilm now a legitimate option for videographers and hybrid shooters now for the first time in your opinion? Have a great day 👍

[@EETSTHECREATOR]

This was insane free information. So fire. Thanks G

[@Eddie87Grant]

Yes this video was very helpful. I believe that updates are needed in their top tier cameras and I also agree that Sony work on their ergonomics also. I hope Christmas are great for you and yours.

[@PhotoTrekr]

I've enjoyed your videos for years and seeing your progress as a photographer. I started shooting Sony with the A7. Kind of funny now that the knock on Sony was a lack of lenses. But, Sony was first with mirrorless and Nikon and Canon had to play catch up. Since I do very little video, the A7R4 is pretty much the perfect camera for me and I have two of them. I like the depth of the grip and I hate flippy screens. I hope Sony always has a camera designed primarily for photographers. Happy holidays to you and your family.

[@ckadj131820]

As much as I love your videos, it is so hard to continue watching knowing I'd never afford any of your cameras. Still, thank you! I'm learning a lot from your videos. Enjoy the rest of the holidays! Bless you and your channel! ❤️

[@jamesklug]

The ending LOL 😂 Great video and really good points

[@Justhitupdman]

Agreed with everything you said! Sony should definitely focus on ergonomics and LCD screen in their upcoming cameras.

[@floriandekret2088]

And the EVF also. R5 has way better EVF than A1 (i have both).

[@MichalOlender]

Love the non bias videos!

[@theblmcgroup]

Lol, Manny. I’ve watched your channel for about three years, and I feel your pain regarding ending videos. However, in my case, I have trouble even beginning, which is why my channel stagnates. Anyway, regardless, your content is superb, and as a fellow Sony user, I agree with you on what Sony can do to improve the relationship they have with people who use their cameras. Man, keep up the excellent work and keep inspiring others to make content as well as you. ❤

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

Great video Manny.

[@ciwanski]

Love these honest takes.

[@bobn1955]

Thanks for the specific info regarding "Sony Color Science" - that your issue goes away with custom color balance is very interesting.

[@Shawns_snapshots]

When i had the A7iv i instantly fell in love with the bird eye autofocus, especially in video mode. Being so excited, i sold it pretty quickly bought an A1, and after shooting stills with it for two or 3 months i realized it didnt have bird AF in video mode. When i confronted Sony about it, they said it did (support don't know what they are doing).

[@Foxhound_inferno]

200% helpful 😁 and this VDO is so real that great

[@97nelsn]

I switched to Sony in 2020 thanks in part to going to Creative Space 2019 and finding a NEX-5T with kit lens and battery for $12 at a thrift store. The main reason for the switch was the availability of used and third party lenses that offer similar quality at affordable prices. Canon and NIkon’s Mirrorless offerings at the time didn’t have any of that but Sony did and I wanted to switch to the future which is Mirrorless. I went from Nikon to Sony and I never looked back. I have an A7III which is my workhorse, 2 used prime lenses (55mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8), and a Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 which I upgraded from the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 that I got with my A7III in 2020. Can and should there be improvements with Sony cameras and lenses? Yes, and hell yes. Make the firmware updates more frequent and add features to existing cameras to keep their value up. Also, release a new APS-C camera plus new ergonomics on all the bodies. Am I going back to NIkon? Probably not, especially since I invested my money in E-mount glass and I’m starting to get into video which I will say is light years ahead of the video I used to do on my old Nikon D7000. Also 0:16 & 15:04 : good to see her again!

[@steven871]

Didn’t know you shoot sports. Love it. What body/lens combos do you use for both outdoor and indoor

[@samsonlusamba3038]

I LOVE watching your videos!!!!

[@croitorcik]

Very helpful! Thanks!

[@davidsabatphoto]

Yes, this video helps...I just left Nikon (D750) and picked up the A7RV after waiting forever for Nikon to give me something I wanted to upgrade to. I've been a looooong hold out just because I was trying to stick with Nikon at the under $4K price range and eye-auto focus is super important to me as well as 3rd party lens options without adapting. I'm sure they'll catch up soon, but they just took too long for me and they still won't have 3rd party lens options fast enough. Your video makes me feel confident in my switch and my choice in camera model.

[@msonufriychuk]

Have u looked at the Nikon z62 And z72?

[@davidsabatphoto]

@@msonufriychuk yea I’ve used the z6 II and just wasn’t that impressed. I would’ve been open to a z8 or z6 or 7 III but they just took too long and I can’t wait any longer so I jumped ship. Also still no 3rd party lens options anytime soon.

[@michaelfarkas50]

I’m a Fuji user, former Nikon DSLR user, and I was at a crossroad this summer when the X-H2S was announced. I was yearning for better battery life and better AF and the X-H2S was supposed to deliver it. But, it was the same price as the new Sony A7IV. My dilemma was dumping all of my Fuji gear and getting into a new system or sticking with Fuji. I didn’t go for a new system various reasons, with the main one being cost and size of full frame glass. I did end up getting the X-H2S and I hands down don’t regret my decision. It’s been a game changer for my work. There was a touch and try event for the X-H2S at my local camera shop and I went. I already pre-ordered the camera in case I wanted it I wouldn’t have to wait to get it. I was going to decide if I was going to keep my pre-order or not after the event. After the event was done I played with the other big name full frame mirrorless cameras. I agree with Manny about the Canon R5 feeling the best in the hand and I too have always despised the grip and hand clearance of the Sony A7 bodies. Even the point of low clearance for your fingers with a larger lens was deal breaker for me every time I tried one out. I didn’t mind the ergonomics of the Nikon. At the end of the day I couldn’t stomach the price of the Canon R5, the Nikon lens line up was a bit underwhelming and I hate the grip of the Sony cameras. I’m glad this video was posted because it still reminds me why I stayed with Fuji. I was honest with myself about what worked and what didn’t and I’m so glad I stayed with Fuji. If I had to come up with a perfect system for myself it would be a Sony camera body and lens line up withe the body having the hand grip of the Canon R5 and shutter/button placement of the Fuji X-H2S.

[@edwinsahertian6875]

Thanks for this detailed video Manny, loved this one! But what happened with your Godox flashes, we see only Wescott now.

[@keithken2828]

Thanks for your honest opinions 😊

[@donwhite332]

A great heartfelt commentary.

[@sjenkin88]

I've only been shooting with Sony for 2 years now, but I can say that you've nailed... especially when you mentioned the grip and the Sigma 85mm Art. Beautiful lens - possibly the best 85mm I've ever used - but man it catches knuckles when you're throwing it about!

[@stevengoossen6019]

I’m new to your channel, first I wasn’t to say I appreciate your honesty and openness. I just bought a Sony a7RV, it’s all new to me I’m on an adventure. Any things that you say that you wish Sony would improve, preach it bro.

[@gwilkins4617]

Listen manny, i like what you are doing here.. keep it up

[@ogonzilla]

15:34 LOL...felt your pain.

[@limakilo1331]

Great perspective, thank you.

[@alexlaouri]

A very nice well-thought video. Your thoughts are our thoughts...Hope Sony hears you and make 50% of the changes based on your talk. Thank you.

[@rickfarber4243]

Video was helpful. As always. Thanks.

[@Kinadnuf]

Very helpful, thanks from 🇬🇧I really hope Sony watch this video and listen!

[@futc.photography]

Okay I don’t say this lightly because I think about it a lot, there are so many people on youtube where you can just tell they’re waffling about whatever for 8 minutes without a goal or a plan because they feel the need to feed the algorithm. But you are still one of the good ones, the amount of thought you continuously put into these videos really shows and I appreciate it a lot. Nothing but the highest quality coming from you 🙏

[@powerfuljones]

love my tamron as well. lens choices are amazing

[@reggiehil]

I'm a Nikon user, and I respect your opinions a lot because you really use the gear for extended time and on real jobs. Keep up the good work homie.

[@atalk143]

I found the video helpful :) Liked and subscribed :)

[@SilatShooter]

Agreed on the firmware updates, Sony needs to do more of them. Solid video!

[@rodneylangston4181]

Very helpful video. I switched from a Canon 5D Mk III to Sony a6xxx series and a 7R. Both were agronomically challenged. I have since acquired a a 7R Mk III. My biggest concern with these cameras are the durability. None of them can take the heavy use that an equivalent Canon body we'll take. Supposedly, the new A7r IV has improved this, but I still have my doubts. But I love the Sony tech, and the sensor dynamic range. So I will likely upgrade to that camera with reservations. I have a good friend who wants to get into serious photography after his retirement. I am making up a list of pros and cons of the different systems and this video was helpful in that regard.

[@pedzsan]

Thank you for the Canon and Sony pros and cons videos.

[@fadiheterjag]

Great video as usual Manny! Definitely with you on the third party lenses point, that Tamron trinity is 👌 I just recently bought my first Sony camera after shooting on another system for years, and since I wanted to keep the cost low while I just dip my toes in the Sony pond I went with the a7c. Honestly this is the weirdest I've ever felt about a camera in a long while. I get the feeling that a Sony camera is an incredible piece of tech that can do wonders for you, but at the same time kind of hates you. The button placement on the a7c makes no sense (look at where the Menu button is! And that's the button you use to go backwards in the menu...), the design of the camera both from an ergonomic and software standpoint feels almost antagonistic to the user, the camera takes forever to actually boot up (now I understand why Sony shooters keep their cameras on and never turn them off), but once you put in the time and set the camera up, you can at least enjoy the end result (great AF, great dynamic range, etc...), which sort of makes using this pain in the ass of a camera worth it in the end.

[@Pierretlambert]

16:40 The aWB changes slightly when you switch from vertical to horizontal on all my Sony. I keep testing and it keeps being true (yes even when the same in the frame). Many reported seeing that too - weird!

[@MannyOrtiz]

Dude no way. I will try as well

[@ShafreelCosmos]

Great video! Thank you. I love my A7SIII for video and photography. I also want those firmware updates and it’s Krayzie that it hasn’t been updated.

[@emekaibe8042]

Awesome brother !

[@dtyusufceylan]

it is very valuable video, thank you very much.