2022 Toyota Rav4 Prime Review - Still the BEST Toyota you can buy?

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Kirk Kreifels

Kirk Kreifels

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@nancymattern1801
@nancymattern1801 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 RAV 4 Prime XSE and absolutely love it. Most of my driving is in EV mode but it is great to not have to worry about range as it seamlessly switches over to ICE. I agree that it the best-it is a speedy little devil, fun to drive yet very functional, too. Proud owner!!
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
Happy for you!
@greasemonkey90065
@greasemonkey90065 2 жыл бұрын
We have the same vehicle, and LOVE it. My wife babies the accelerator and she gets 48-51 EV! It replaced my wife's ooold 1995 Subaru Legacy wagon, so knowing my wife she'll run the car to for a long time.
@johntobin3998
@johntobin3998 2 жыл бұрын
As many commenters have stated here, the lack of availability and wait times for the Prime nearly make it a pipedream for ownership. If that were not sufficiently discouraging, dealership markups on the Prime should be. In my case, our local Toyota dealership was marking up its Primes by $10,000. Our local Lexus dealership sold me the NX 450h at MSRP, for which I waited 6-1/2 months for delivery. In this auto buying environment, I considered the price paid and wait time acceptable. The bottomline: if you can get a Prime at MSRP in less than a year, or whatever your patience permits, go for it.
@letsgobrandon5800
@letsgobrandon5800 2 жыл бұрын
Who needs a car so badly that they’d pay $10 k over sticker in any environment? Only a fool. Even paying MSRP will bite you later because when the market tanks, and it will, you’ll owe more on the car than it’s worth. As production ramps and catches up, those who overpaid will fell like fools.
@johntobin3998
@johntobin3998 2 жыл бұрын
@@letsgobrandon5800 I paid cash and MSRP for my last (in high demand) car and held onto it for 20 years ... no regrets. I bought the 2022 Lexus NX 450h for cash and plan to hold onto it 15-20 years, unless I expire first. Sure, I could wait another 2 years and "possibly" buy one for $2-5k below MSRP, but that would be 2 valuable years of my remaining life without the pleasure of driving a new vehicle more suitable to my current needs ... so again, no regrets. In reality, nearly all vehicles, except classics and museum pieces, are rapidly depreciating assets. For that reason, I could argue all car buyers are "fools" for buying a depreciating asset, regardless of its price or one's car buying prowess.
@letsgobrandon5800
@letsgobrandon5800 2 жыл бұрын
@@johntobin3998 you’re the exception , not the rule. Most bail after five years, so they all lose money. If you’re a buy and hold guy, then you’re fine. Others get screwed, glued and tattooed. As to the RX450H , you’ll be changing that motive battery well before 20 years are Over. Put $$ aside for that.
@jjx45678
@jjx45678 2 жыл бұрын
@@letsgobrandon5800 I would not pay 10k over either. However, it is unknown how long it will take until there is a plentiful supply of vehicles. Some say the dealers and manufactures like a tight supply regardless of the supply chain problems. I believe Toyota recently announced a cut in the projected supply of vehicles for the coming year. I don't like the idea of paying MSRP either. However, with high inflation, if you wait a year, invoice or dealer cost for the next model year might be more than the currnent MSRP.
@letsgobrandon5800
@letsgobrandon5800 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjx45678 it all comes down to how badly you need a car now? Is it worth it to fix what you have and throw good money after bad or just ante up and get a new one? It’s a personal decision, but the prices people pay today will haunt them in future as every car, bar none, depreciates . Some depreciate faster than others,but they all depreciate.
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik 2 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend sold her model Y for a Rav4 Prime and she couldn't be happier. She no longer has range anxiety and does not have to deal with Tesla's crappy build quality.
@jxmar_
@jxmar_ 2 жыл бұрын
The RAV4 Prime is the best plug in hybrid ever made! Can’t think of anything better than it. This can also hit 60 mph in 5.5s.
@Reu_ag
@Reu_ag 2 жыл бұрын
The rav4 prime is just the best phev, it just does everything so well
@randalllewis4485
@randalllewis4485 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my 22 RAV4 Prime for a month now. It is the best Toyota hybrid I've ever owned, and that goes back to one of the first Camry hybrids. I had to drive mine home from another state, so I have used one tank of gas, but 90 percent of my local driving has been handled by the electric motors and that missing 10 percent would have been as well, but I don't charge it every night.
@tommiller12345
@tommiller12345 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2022 Prius Prime. It’s awesome. Gets 5 mi per kwh, which costs me only $0.13. For battery longevity, I garage it out of the hot sun. Also you must use the engine every few months to use up the gas before the gas gets too old.
@cp-chipheo9528
@cp-chipheo9528 2 жыл бұрын
I read that rav4 will let you know if the gas is too old. It probably based on last time the gas cap was opened
@janozkk
@janozkk 2 жыл бұрын
Almost 2 years on our 2021 RAV4 Prime SE. We use the ICE every week or two. We fill at half tank to full every 2 months. These RAV 4 Primes were a couple of thousand over MSRP back then, 1 month Waite time, and had $10,000 in tax credits and rebate. The best vehicle we have ever owned.
@verynick
@verynick 10 ай бұрын
@@cp-chipheo9528yup, it’s called “Maintenance Mode”. It will come on if it defects the the gas hasn’t been used in a while
@blazecarr
@blazecarr 2 жыл бұрын
Firsttt. Had the rav4 v6 sport w/o tire on back, lowered, full bolt ons, i believe for performance its still better. But I love this best of both worlds power and efficiency.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Ok that's a badass setup. 🔥
@ryan_bitt
@ryan_bitt 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this version of the Rav4 & the limited Hybrid. Problem is finding one at msrp 😅
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 2 жыл бұрын
The demand for the RAV4 Prime shows there's a market demand for PHEVs. Toyota should focus in mass producing PHEVs at affordable prices.
@TheJoncic
@TheJoncic 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that we think $50k as being a "deal" now.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. $50k a deal, ouch.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
LE at 43k is the way to go --but that's in a fairytale world where these PRIMES are readily available.
@dennisjones8906
@dennisjones8906 2 жыл бұрын
SE?
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure I’m one of the exceptions, but when I was shopping for my Prime at the end of April 2021, my home dealership had 2 SE models on the lot, and I ended up with the blue one for just under MSRP (38k) before trade-in value was accounted for. Guess I was extremely lucky; every other dealership in my area wanted a markup of 5-10 grand. I live in northern Jersey, so the efficiency in electric mode varies for me with the seasons. In the summer I can get 3.5-4.0 miles/kWh, but in the winter it will fall to just 2.5-3.0 miles/kWh. I don’t really have any major complaints about the vehicle or how it drives; it’s not a stretch to say that this is the perfect balance between power and economy. I can’t wait for the new Prius Prime to drop; gotta replace our 2012 Prius lol.
@connerthecat4758
@connerthecat4758 2 жыл бұрын
Just got the call today that a White XSE Prime was available today if I wanted it - no Premium Package, and at the tail end of 2022… going to pass until I can get what I want (2023 XSE PP). But for those looking - they are out there.
@Tacoexplorer
@Tacoexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice. The 2023’s have some significant updates.
@Tacoexplorer
@Tacoexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
I have one on order. Can’t wait for it. Been 6 months still I put a deposit down thought. It’s okay since I want a 2023 model with the updates!
@davidwhite925
@davidwhite925 2 жыл бұрын
There seem to be a number of lightly used ones around. Unfortunately, they are usually asking 50k to nearly 70k depending on milage and options. Some dealers seem to be taking new ones they get to auctions as soon as they are titled.
@ryan_bitt
@ryan_bitt 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I'm seeing as well
@mike_wellington_
@mike_wellington_ 2 жыл бұрын
Desperately want a RAV4 Prime to add to our collection of a 19 & 21 RAV4 gas models. *puts myself on a waiting list at two dealerships NOT charging one penny over MSRP.* 14 people ahead of me with both dealerships seeing 2 a year. 😢😢 And DAYUM $3.40 a gallon, I need Florida right about now!
@60fino
@60fino 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kirk. I follow you from Italy. Congratulations on your always interesting and very accurate reviews. I ordered Rav4 Prime More Style 2023, but I have to wait seven months before I receive this wonderful SUV from Toyota
@bmartin7828
@bmartin7828 2 жыл бұрын
RAV4 gas has a 8-12 week wait here, hybrid is over 6 month wait and Prime is unobtainable here in Indiana or at least if I want to pay Msrp. My 22 gas RAV4 XLE Premium I ordered has a build date of November 2, so hopefully I’ll get it in the next month.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to hear of a non-hybrid RAV4.
@PackFan-tv5pj
@PackFan-tv5pj 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video on RAV4 Prime. I had a Prius Prime and sold it at the top of its value, wanted a RAV4 Prime but no chance. Currently driving a RAV4 Hybrid XSE and it's great also, but will need to wait until supply of Primes improves.
@R1559
@R1559 2 жыл бұрын
Will never happen
@PackFan-tv5pj
@PackFan-tv5pj 2 жыл бұрын
@@R1559 I pretty much agree and will likely stay with my Hybrid. Even the used Primes prices are jacked up so high, nobody will pay those prices.
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 2 жыл бұрын
Rav4 is a brilliant suv and a legend as always .❤. obviously its a Class leader.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 2 жыл бұрын
How would you compare it to the previous gen rav4 2013-18? Does the noisy engine in the current rav4 vs the previous one bother you? To me the dynamic force engine is too noisy vs the 2018 rav4 178hp
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 2 жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine now for a long time you trolled about lexus .but now about the rav4 too.😂. Buddy new engines are 250 millions times better than the last rav4 .i wont fight with you because if i do then i am the crazy one .😂.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 I was just asking a question lol. Current vs previous gen
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 2 жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine new engines are more than fine And excellent in refinement as a rav4 like suv should be.if you want luxury or refinement get a lexus .will that answer your useless question.👍😂
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 2 жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine did u listen to what kirk is saying in the video ??.. He is talking about the quality , the quietness and greatness of RAV4 in the video !! I hope this will help your non engineering a$$ to have a better look at rav4 ..
@kyrosmike
@kyrosmike 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2022 rav4 Prime, ICE engine does come on at times in EV only mode. If you have the hud and change from charge/eco/power to a tachometer it does come on at times I believe for maintenance mode so gas doesn't go stale. I've driven in full EV few times and see ice going about 2000 rpms for a minute or 2, I can't say how often. The power display on the center screen doesn't show the ice engine on, only the hud tach.
@richsw49
@richsw49 2 жыл бұрын
Should be titled ' Still the best Toyota you CAN'T buy!' Local Toyota dealer got one a year ago and wanted $16,000 over msrp. We have been trying to get one for two years. And now no tax incentive. It is almost a joke; reviewer after reviewer keeps saying a great car. But it is a pipedream.
@janozkk
@janozkk 2 жыл бұрын
I got my wife a RAV4 Prime 02/2021, back then it was not to well known here in SoCal. Paid $3500 in add ons for a total of $45,500 plus T & L for an SE with Sunroof/cold weather pkg and roof rack. The dealer identified it after it was completed in Japan and I ordered it, after 3 weeks I took delivery, and got $7,500 tax credit, $1,500 CA. Rebate and a $1,000 clean fuels rebate a total of $10,000. Today it’s $0 in rebates and tax credits. The RAV4 is the best vehicle we have ever owned, we drive on EV mode 90% of the time.
@pinkipipe
@pinkipipe 2 жыл бұрын
We have it and we love it ! ( coming from a Lexus driver)
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 2 жыл бұрын
GR Corolla Circuit, Toyota 86 , Civic Type R, or CR-V hybrid loaded? Or this Rav 4 prime?? What's is the best Toyota, or best Honda for you and yours, and why?
@notsodelusional
@notsodelusional 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, is there a difference in ride quality / noise isolation between the Prime and the "plain" hybrid model?
@willay747
@willay747 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video! I have a 2023 coming in next month! Excited
@marqh984
@marqh984 2 жыл бұрын
Another Awesome Vid Kirk! I’m so glad you did this video on this vehicle, as I have been stalking the RAV4Prime, since it came out, as my next vehicle. It’s been my alternate to an EV simply because a hybrid set up it truly the best thing for any vehicle. As EVs slowly make their name and reputation in the market & show their effect on planet, they are still a long way off from being that “totally efficient” vehicle. A hybrid is the best of both worlds & a plug in hybrid is that much more logical! Looking to possibly get my hands on one next year. Love the highs and lows you pointed out in this vehicle…thanks again for your knowledge bits Sir!
@davidp.4727
@davidp.4727 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered June 2021, still waiting. Being told might arrive late 2024. Great car if you can get one !
@Tacoexplorer
@Tacoexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with that. You need to look at other dealers!
@davidp.4727
@davidp.4727 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tacoexplorer every dealer here in eastern Canada has a 3 to 5 year wait now .
@tomchan2559
@tomchan2559 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck if u can get one in Toronto.
@AlphaOmega333
@AlphaOmega333 2 жыл бұрын
PRIMEs have never been easily available for purchase since their release and it’s only worse now 😂
@fangyideng3131
@fangyideng3131 2 жыл бұрын
Prime you said? Good luck getting your hands on those. I believe the average waiting time is 2-4 years. Even the hybrid Rav4s are hard to come by and probably marked up. If a car is not readily available to consumers it doesn't matter if it's the best in the world.
@Roboticpycotic
@Roboticpycotic 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I work at a high volume dealer and I've seen maybe 2 of these things
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
WOAH. That's a crazy wait time. Totally agree on the last part. I hate these types of cars.
@alfontana6242
@alfontana6242 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, we own a 2022 RAV 4 Prime model SE (base model) Now over 10,000 miles and 42-50+ miles electric range depending on weather etc., and with a depleted battery in pure hybrid mode 45+ MPG on regular gas. The 2023 RAV 4 Prime in all models now comes standard with 6.6 KWH charging which will give you a full charge from a depleted battery in 2.5 hours with a 240 Volt charger. The RAV 4 Prime is the best SUV plug in electric all wheel drive vehicle available as no other manufacturer can match it thats why they are impossible to purchase at MSRP and at least a 1 year + waiting period to order a 2023 model. GM could have had a similar vehicle as they had the voltec system (chevy Volt) pretty much refined, but they choose not to and gave Toyota no competition.
@grantwebb214
@grantwebb214 2 жыл бұрын
I’m at the 3 month mark since ordering a rav4 prime. No idea how long it will be. I am first on my dealership’s list but south Mississippi is no hot bed of PHEVs.
@eugenejohnson7755
@eugenejohnson7755 2 жыл бұрын
If you get a XSE, why not get the Lexus NX plug-in hybrid?
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 2 жыл бұрын
It’s eve more expensive. The nx450h+ starts at 57K. The XSE starts in the mid 40s and stops at the low 50s
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine Absurd.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
SE would be my pick if either were available.
@eugenejohnson7755
@eugenejohnson7755 2 жыл бұрын
@@KirkKreifels Thanks, Kirk. I really like your channel 👍. Wish you good health.
@amode8761
@amode8761 2 жыл бұрын
Why haven’t Toyota put heads up display on non-PHEV versions? Very strange they don’t get it when the EU Yaris gets it
@iJudo
@iJudo 2 жыл бұрын
My dealer called me this week they had a red XSE for me but the wife didn’t like red. 🤦‍♂️ I had to pass on it. I’m still distraught.
@glennumbas7843
@glennumbas7843 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 2022 RAV4 Prime XSE last May now already 15000 miles , I was replace my 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV with 90000 miles on it. They both is good PHEV .....
@jsanders299
@jsanders299 2 жыл бұрын
My 10th Toyota. The best vehicle I have ever owned.
@jasonyoung6420
@jasonyoung6420 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think manufacturers should be offering a plug-in option for all of their hybrid vehicles; We have a Sorento PHEV SX Prestige and my wife does her entire commute in EV mode, we've taken some longer trips on the weekend and dip into hybrid mode as they involve highway driving that drains the battery fast at 70mph in EV mode. I put 10 gallons of gas in it the other day, and that covered ~1,000 miles of driving in a 3-row CUV. She plugs in to a 120V outlet when she gets home in the early evening and has a full battery well before her morning commute starts.
@philipershler420
@philipershler420 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 RAV4 XLE and I love it. We have been trying to replace my wife’s 2014 Prius since last spring. I’m just discouraged about when we might see a new Prius (which I’m told will be a 2023 [OK] but we have been told late spring next year at the earliest).
@dhuntington6009
@dhuntington6009 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the NX450h+ and am about 4 months away from my waiting list to buy the RAV4 Prime. I'm going to sell the NX+ and keep the R4P because I hate the electronic door handles.
@cedricenter
@cedricenter 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Corolla Awd review
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, 3.7 miles to the kilometer 1:30 is INCREDIBLE efficiency.😉
@letsgobrandon5800
@letsgobrandon5800 2 жыл бұрын
For the $$? You can get a new Crown for a tad more and it’s better looking and more well equipped. So, how many kWh battery does it have?!
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 2 жыл бұрын
18kwh battery And the crown is much uglier than the rav4. And it’s more expensive to get the same performance as the rav4 prime and get less mpg as well
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 2 жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine crown is not ugly than a rav4 .😂. Those words show you know nothing at all except troll.buddy crown is a luxurious fast high quality premium sedan/wagon .so buddy be real.
@capiucapiu1631
@capiucapiu1631 2 жыл бұрын
Looks are subjective and I also think the crown is ugly. The Avalon was so much better looking.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 2 жыл бұрын
frankly for way less $$ (assuming no markup) id get the crown xle. sure its slower but it looks more expensive inside/outside
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinhinnh why wouldn’t you just get a Camry or Avalon that’s still remaining?
@WFO.
@WFO. 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent review. My dealership is getting me a 23 SE at MSRP. Arriving this month. 🙏
@omeraslam2121
@omeraslam2121 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the new SEQUOIA was plug in with 20 miles electrical range.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a two row Sequoia then. 😂
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 2 жыл бұрын
The best Toyotas you can buy are more (because of different drivers, with different needs, reliability, TCO and efficiency included): Toyota Corolla hybrid, Camry hybrid, Land Cruiser, 4Runner, Venza hybrid, RAV4 hybrid etc.
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961
@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jeagleAL
@jeagleAL 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the RAV4 Prime? 😉
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeagleAL, no, I am just using my imagination 🤣😂🤣 Of course I have drive-tested all Toyota cars (GR Yaris included, that is the best for me, especially for track-days) and all Lexus cars (LC500 included, a car that I'm sorry I didn't buy when the rep. office offered it to me in 2020 with a huge discount from MRSP), except LFA. And I have a friend with RAV4 Prime, that also sees its minuses, not only its advantages - it is called objectivity (or lack of bias). Because I'm into cars... Plus I acquired more than a thousand cars for my sales fleets over the last decades - that's why I can barely find some time for all the drive-tests I am invited to. This way and by analysing all pros and cons I do not recommend electric cars and most of the plug-ins. They are very expensive (especially when you factor in a hugely expensive battery replacement), very dangerous, unreliable, very polluting (from mining/production to the weak recycling), impractical and far too CONTROLLable by the producers or government.
@phalanx1790
@phalanx1790 2 жыл бұрын
the best toyota that you cant buy haha
@yaboiyosef7640
@yaboiyosef7640 2 жыл бұрын
Was about to say that haha. So obvious
@CrumResearch
@CrumResearch 2 жыл бұрын
never seen one around here, the RAV4 Prime is not available around here
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for someone to say this :)
@CrumResearch
@CrumResearch 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaboiyosef7640 At least Jeep is manufacturing the comparable (but more capable) Wrangler 4xe design. Not yet sure about the Grand Cherokee 4xe though.
@jxmar_
@jxmar_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrumResearch I’ve only seen one and it was a SE
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Gas is back to $3.40 per gallon??
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
3.30 here now
@johntobin3998
@johntobin3998 2 жыл бұрын
Try $6.00 in SoCal (+/- $0.50 depending on the week)
@gregorymichaelides2374
@gregorymichaelides2374 2 жыл бұрын
The RAV4 Prime is the best Toyota in the market today in my opinion. The Lexus NX450h+ and the RX450h+ don't make any sense if you can get the RAV4 Prime.
@johntobin3998
@johntobin3998 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, if you can actually get one ... and get it at MSRP. The Toyota dealership in my town was marking up Primes by $10,000. The Lexus dealership sold me a NX 450h at MSRP, which made far more sense than the Prime.
@jsac3939
@jsac3939 2 жыл бұрын
When you get your hands on a 2023 rav4 (any trim), could you check if they have updated the quality of the cameras? I know all 2023 rav4s have gotten the infotainment update, but want to know if they have also updated the cameras like the Corolla, tundra, and sequoia.
@patricksoon85
@patricksoon85 Жыл бұрын
Any idea when the RAV 4 will be updated again? 2024? 2025? About to purchase a Prime and worried that it will look old in about a year if they update it. Thanks in advance.
@patricksoon85
@patricksoon85 Жыл бұрын
Is the 2023 RAV4 Prime still the best PHEV SUV at the moment? How does it compare with the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and the Kia Sportage PHEV?
@davidgapp1457
@davidgapp1457 Жыл бұрын
Not sure I understand the figures. My Rav4 Prime is now 1.5 years old. In that time I've never bested 3.1 miles per kwHr indicated. If you are getting 3.7 then your range should be around 53 miles. At no time have I gotten close to that figure (even with the A/C off). The best I've ever managed (based off the ODO indicated range) is about 46 miles. In practical terms, driving urban freeway, I return between 38 miles and 40 miles range (65mph to 75mph). BTW, having the A/C on does not discernibly impact the range - I suspect this is because the lithium battery takes more charge when the weather is warm/hot and that compensates for the extra draw of the HVAC. The steering is 'okayish' but not outstanding. The vehicle does not feel good if you have to swerve and the (stock) tires are certainly not designed for grip. Or braking. Because of the low-slung batteries, Toyota has 'jacked' the suspension on the Rav4 Prime. The result is that ground clearance is about the same as the normal hybrid, however the penalty is that the suspension feels overextended - as if Toyota really needed to do some more tune-up on the suspension. It is competent but braking and sudden maneuvers are unconvincing to say the least. The ride is relatively harsh. In general I don't like soft 'pudding' suspension because it seems to take away from road-feel and agility. However the Rav4 Prime manages 'harsh' without any of the benefits that usually accompany a firm suspension. Again, I think this is because the Prime was really an after-thought and the suspension lost out. Aside from these niggles, the car is great. However, I would not recommend the Rav4 Hybrid or Prime if you live anywhere cold and wet as there is a known issue with the electrical connection to the motor over the rear axle. Namely, the plastic boot surrounding the connection is prone to filling with debris/salt etc., which leads to wiring corrosion. The fix is expensive and Toyota are not proving very cooperative - you have to bitch to them very hard and if you are outside of warranty then you're s**t out of luck. Would I buy the Rav4 Prime again? Yes, however I am not as gung-ho as this reviewer. I live in Arizona so (almost) no rain, no snow, no salt. Consequently, the 'wiregate' issues doesn't really impact me. The vehicle is reliable to-date but the electric steering mechanism is beginning to make weird noises as the vehicle approaches full lock. Fortunately I paid for the extended warranty... In any case, buying the Rav4 is now moot thanks to Biden. The Rav4 Prime is manufactured only in Japan (unlike the ICE Rav4 and the Hybrid) so under the new rules you get nothing in the way of tax credits. Given that dealers are still trying to apply mark-ups, I would think carefully before buying a Rav4 Prime going forwards (mine collected the full $7,500 tax credit). As a result, if you buy the Rav4 Prime you are unlikely to recoup the difference in purchase price (through gas savings) over your ownership of the vehicle. In addition the vehicle is mechanically more complicated than the Rav4 ICE or Hybrid so I recommend buying the extended warranty and ditching the vehicle when that expires. Besides, by that time, I expect there will be PHEV's with a 100 mile range or the EV battery issues will have been sorted. Aside from fuel economy, the other great joy of the Rav4 Prime is the power. Oh my, it is good! The acceleration will leave almost all ICE cars and SUV's in the dust (save for expensive sports vehicles). The torque off-the-line is fantastic thanks to the electric motors. My other daily drive is a mid-engine, supercharged sports car so I really didn't want an SUV that drove like a wet sack of cement. Fortunately, the Prime does not disappoint! The build quality of the car is, as you would expect from a car assembled in Japan, simply perfect. I am hyper-critical and to-date I have not found anything, not the slightest blemish or misalignment to criticize. Not saying the US/Canadian Rav4's aren't good, but the Japanese build quality is simply outstanding. One minor point. The fog light that comes with the XSE trim is rubbish. Your first stop should be to buy a more powerful LED module. Swapping the lights out is an easy task - plenty of youtube self-help videos!
@squiggy4339
@squiggy4339 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, can you tell me what the charging times are on the RAV4 Prime, and do you need a 240-volt outlet?
@phillipgriffin
@phillipgriffin 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, what has Toyota done to address the hybrid “cable gate” issue?
@FrankBrankerSR
@FrankBrankerSR Жыл бұрын
If you are going on a long trip and you are out of electricity and the engine switches to gas, The Rav4 Prime gas engine can recharge the electricity to 80%. The problem is that most users need help figuring out where to activate that feature. Plus, I don't know of another PHEV that has that feature. That's a big selling point, but I don't understand why Toyota does not promote that feature.
@francisgallozzi2595
@francisgallozzi2595 2 жыл бұрын
Even at this price, still the incandescent turn signals.
@cp-chipheo9528
@cp-chipheo9528 2 жыл бұрын
Buying rav4 prime like buying one get two: one hybrid and one electric. If you use rav4 prime in EV mode most of the time, when the battery degraded, you still have an almost brand new engine to use. Besides you don't have to maintain engine that much if you don't really use it. Battery is small and it should be cheaper to replace it.
@edthelazyboy
@edthelazyboy Жыл бұрын
I really wanted the RAV4 Prime and waited for dealer markups to go away. They only gone up ever since. I ended up getting the BZ4X Limited FWD late last year and I really like the crossover. I was very surprised the dealer had one for MSRP so I ran in to buy it. I don't really trust Tesla's reliability so even when their prices dropped a lot recently I didn't really care.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Yes bz4x can be had for MSRP or less right now
@davesutherland1864
@davesutherland1864 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to get a RAV4 Prime last year. I love it. Would have been happy with the base model, could only get the top end model. I have to say I really do like the heads up display. Actually too much info on the instrument cluster and like the bare bones essential info on the heads up display.
@vampyrelycan99
@vampyrelycan99 2 жыл бұрын
Regretabbly the RAV4 Prime is one of the two known Toyota vehicles whose infotainment system firmware does NOT support external USB ODD (The other one being the Venza). Sad......
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds super convoluted when some models don't support this. Why can't they just use the same components for every infotainment system when they are basically the same anyway?
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
ODD?
@vampyrelycan99
@vampyrelycan99 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Optical Disc Deck, yes, the compatibility issue has been reported by some Japanese YTber......
@kallesoderlund3177
@kallesoderlund3177 2 жыл бұрын
It will be really nice when the upcoming upgrade of infotainment.
@MrGreyLeaf
@MrGreyLeaf Жыл бұрын
Question, we live in Hawaii, so most of our driving is under 60 miles an hour. Our daily usage of mileage is about 35 miles. when calculating the MPGE at 96 or something from the epa, that’s for using all of the battery and all of the gas correct? So if most of our trips are pure electric, our MPG would actually be higher yeah? We have a big solar system
@tanyabee2024
@tanyabee2024 2 жыл бұрын
I want one but I'm curious to know if I only use the EV mode would the gas go bad if not used up for a long time?
@davidwhite925
@davidwhite925 2 жыл бұрын
Owners manual material recommends adding at least five or six liters of fuel per year. I personally plan on using enough gas so that it doesn't sit in the tank for more than 5 or 6 months.
@aurorajones8481
@aurorajones8481 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt you will but id love you to do a vid on the new Dodge Hornet when it gets dropped. Personally I really dig that thing. Its alpha based so you know its going to drive sporty, the interior is upmarket because its lifted from Alpha, and the rear lights match my LC. I know i know. Well i bought a 19X so it would match my interior! The purse has to match the shoes... 😂
@DavidMichaelKalman
@DavidMichaelKalman 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost November. What's the word on the '23 Prius?
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 2 жыл бұрын
I love that color on the RAV4 Prime!
@rammanohar8161
@rammanohar8161 2 жыл бұрын
Still the best Toyota!!!, " You Cannot Buy".
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 2 жыл бұрын
The Prius will have competition in your house.
@mfbikle
@mfbikle 2 жыл бұрын
You know Toyota now has 23 on their website!?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
You must not of watched the video
@aeronYTco
@aeronYTco 2 жыл бұрын
Can you say that the bZ4X is the pure electric equivalent of the Rav4 Prime?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
More or less.
@tomchan2559
@tomchan2559 2 жыл бұрын
Why show us a car we cannot get ? Toyota treats Canada as a third world country market. U buy a Sienna in US, wait a few months. In Toronto, the wait is..... forever.
@mikej238
@mikej238 2 жыл бұрын
Tired of watching videos of " Things you can't buy"
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Such a boring vehicle for it to be unobtainable. 😂
@MichaelAllen-td1uu
@MichaelAllen-td1uu 2 жыл бұрын
Plug in hybrids are perfect for the near future. If Toyota could make enough of these types of vehicles most would say feel confident in their vision of and EV future.
@cp-chipheo9528
@cp-chipheo9528 2 жыл бұрын
Supercharge increased rate in California so it's equivalent to $6/gallon compare to 40mpg ICE so EV does really save money on the long trip compare to rav4, not to mention longer time charging and availability of charging stations compare to gas stations
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 2 жыл бұрын
*Very practical and great for local BEV driving!* However...... sitting in a 2021 RAV4 at the dealership felt like *_yesteryear_* to me so I stuck with my Model Y order. _( The two are in NO WAY compatible. The RAV4 has much more utility. )_
@dubenick
@dubenick 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly just wait for the Tesla quality to feel like yesteryear
@brightlee214
@brightlee214 2 жыл бұрын
No need to talk too much. I didn't hear clearly the engine sounds and cabin from 0 to 60mph and over! At least for 20 seconds keeping silent 🤐👈. Thanks' a lot
@mikefly562
@mikefly562 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a Rav4 Prime for sale yesterday (A used one) for almost 80K at a Toyota dealership.
@rammanohar8161
@rammanohar8161 2 жыл бұрын
You need call 911 and report that dealer
@piajensen3223
@piajensen3223 9 ай бұрын
Car max is selling the prime fully loaded for 50.000 is that a good deal?
@verynick
@verynick 6 ай бұрын
How many miles?
@piajensen3223
@piajensen3223 6 ай бұрын
@@verynick it was 9000 miles. I didn’t buy it after all
@piajensen3223
@piajensen3223 6 ай бұрын
Btw it was a 2022
@verynick
@verynick 6 ай бұрын
Ah it sounded a little much. What did you end up getting? I’m in the market as well
@piajensen3223
@piajensen3223 6 ай бұрын
@@verynick we ended up with a brand new rav 4 prime. But went for lease option to buy . With the 6000 dollars rebate. I am not sure if that was a good idea we find out in 6 months when we are going to buy it. It is a fantastic car I freaking love it. The only problem is where we live there are 2 charge station for free but it is a job itself getting them before they are occupied by TESLA. I have been wondering maybe the hybrid version would have been a better fit . However it been 3 weeks since I have been to the gas station and my tank is half full. We were looking at the ford escape too but out of the door they wanted 58000 insane.
@herbertwedermanjr239
@herbertwedermanjr239 2 жыл бұрын
On a positive note, apparently we now have 54 states in this country and we’re gonna run out of diesel fuel.
@bradhenson6942
@bradhenson6942 2 жыл бұрын
The Rav 4 is not available in Canada, and with a 3 year wait. No thanks. Lincoln Corsair 2023 is my next choice
@donswier
@donswier 2 жыл бұрын
- 42 miles = 15,000 miles annually on just cheap, clean home electric power. - Gets by with a battery much lighter & cheaper than "pure" BEVs. - Never held hostage to public charging that's either occupied, ICED, vandalized or broken. - Never subject to a rainy night stuck at a public charger, trying to console your crying kids and whining doggos for 30-360 minutes (instead of a 3-minute fill up on gasoline). Don't you just love the ads now for BEVs showing beautiful, young, childless models at an available public charger, always in perfect daylight weather outside a trendy cafe in the hipster district? 😄
@bradswartzentruber7419
@bradswartzentruber7419 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Ontario Canada. I ordered mine in October 2021 and they told me not to expect it before 2025…… and I work at a Toyota plant that builds RAV4’s and the Lexus NX and RX. (I know these are built in Japan) you’d think Toyota would give some preference to the people that build their cars…..lol, think again. It’s really sad and the fact that they can’t source batteries to get anywhere near the demand they have for these is absolutely pitiful. They better do something and do it quickly or they’re going to get left behind in everyone else’s dust
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 2 жыл бұрын
I wish that the interior looks like $ 50k but unfortunately it looks more like $ 30k.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. The stuck on infotainment is so horrible, and other aspects are not great either.
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 yeah it´s sad but the buyers don´t seem to care and Toyota is lucky to make money, it´s a win win situation.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 жыл бұрын
@@alengreen589 Not really win-win mate. 😂 Anyway this is because Toyota buyers don't care and continue to buy Toyota. Chevy has really improved their interiors but Toyota buyers won't go there. Also with mid-size trucks the Tacoma looks to be underwhelming as hell with probably 265 hp and 309 lb-ft. The Colorado has 310 hp and 390 lb-ft and the GMC Canyon has even crazier 430 lb-ft. The hybrid just doesn't compensate for an inferior engine. It's just that Americans are so scared of turbos and think Toyota can do magic that they think the hybrid Tacoma will be better than the GM mid-size pickups.
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 in the heads from Toyota buyers is reliability burned in 🤣
@egs2169
@egs2169 2 жыл бұрын
0-60 in 10 seconds in EV only mode? Seems terrible? Am I missing something?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
Not missing anything. I did it with AC on and off in EV mode. Still 10s. If you want speed, put it in hybrid mode = 6s all day long
@rncondie
@rncondie 2 жыл бұрын
We own two Rav 4 Primes 2021. It is plenty quick to 40 mph which is nice around town. It peters out 40 to 60 mph. I have had no issues accelerating to merge on interstates in EV and passing cars at freeway speeds. We are driving 85% of the time in EV only. I drive daily to work on the internet at 80 mph in EV and it handles great.
@micheldrichard7987
@micheldrichard7987 2 жыл бұрын
Merci!
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 2 жыл бұрын
Hint: you ain't gonna find this lower than 50k at how dealers are nowadays Edit: "I am being responsable" says the guy driving on flip flops. That is dangerous.
@phileasler5401
@phileasler5401 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, phev …gateway drug to bev…you know you want one. Ev’s are soooo much better then Dino 🦕 or phev
@richardsmith4201
@richardsmith4201 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk, you'll freeze in the winter. Besides that, it's a winter. (winner)
@arthurguillaume5977
@arthurguillaume5977 2 жыл бұрын
Let's talk value... in Feb. 2021 I leased a Honda Passport EX-L when Honda had a special of $329/MO lease, with taxes & fees I pay $367.01/MO. We don't drive far and when the lease is up we will have roughly 19,000 miles on it. I can then purchase the vehicle for $26,246, which I will do. This is almost 1/2 the cost of the RAV4 Prime. That's value...
@EverGone03
@EverGone03 11 ай бұрын
dang the prime is about $10k more than the regular hybrid. lets say you keep it for 150k miles. do you actually save on gas money?...quick math. the $10k buys you 100,000 miles of gas @ $4 / gallon / 40 miles.
@MikeRobot
@MikeRobot 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they bring the venza plug in
@trentonr7072
@trentonr7072 2 жыл бұрын
You better hope that battery does not fail
@rncondie
@rncondie 2 жыл бұрын
10 years 150,000 miles battery warranty
@danymanchster1759
@danymanchster1759 2 жыл бұрын
i do not think it is worth it at 50k. the whole point of plugin is to save money and regardless of how much gas you will save, it is not going to be $14k over xse pure hybrid. xse pure hybrid msrp is $35.5K .
@aldoivan2096
@aldoivan2096 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, dont take your ev range to zero before using HV mode. Battery will be more efficient.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 жыл бұрын
Yes if you plan on taking a long trip
@gateslattes4686
@gateslattes4686 2 жыл бұрын
Not that great in cold weather. Over 3 yr wait in Canada
@kevin6550694
@kevin6550694 2 жыл бұрын
I want a Sienna Prime!
@Libertarian_Neighbor
@Libertarian_Neighbor 2 жыл бұрын
These are going for $80-90k where I live. Unobtainium…
@rammanohar8161
@rammanohar8161 2 жыл бұрын
Do you want one for 65K?
@gustavoserena5079
@gustavoserena5079 2 жыл бұрын
$50k + markup unobtanium. A Lexus SE 300 Hybrid seems a better option to me.
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