Kit E32: Epoxy Canoe and Forebeam Frame

[@mellowman8695]

Definitely, the more steps you can cut out, the faster you can go. Caulk gun seems like adding steps. I do interior remodeling for a living and use hand squeeze caulk tubes instead of the caulk gun style. White lighting is our preferred choice.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Simple is sometimes better.

[@jonwarner6168]

Your schedule is incredible, the transparency you're taking on this project is brilliant. I can't wait to watch the progression over these coming years 🙂 Keep up the epic work!

[@SailingSVLynx]

Thanks for the kind words. We hope to make this a way for others who might build a Schionning kit catamaran to use to help them build. We just wish someone else had already done a video series on a Schionning build. We would make less mistakes that way. Still, if this helps future builders, it will be worth it. And yes, we have watched all the other boat building channels, past and present. It's just that none of them are building a Schionning kit, which is a bit different.

[@mellowman8695]

I am with you, I look forward to watching you all build this boat!

[@davidantill6949]

Everyone needs a Brian! 👍🏻

[@SailingSVLynx]

No doubt! I wouldn't have attempted this without Brian.

[@davidantill6949]

@@SailingSVLynx Can we clone him?

[@SailingSVLynx]

I'm not opposed. ;)@@davidantill6949

[@kirkb3473]

Thanks for taking my suggestion and incorporating it into the videos! This will be very interesting for us viewers and also for you guys to gage progress. Keep up the hard work 👍🏻

[@SailingSVLynx]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@normanboyes4983]

Good teamwork and good progress.👍

[@SailingSVLynx]

That damn forebeam was a pain in the gluteus maximus.

[@ghislaindevouton5301]

I confirm, you should clean as much epoxy as possible inside and outside because the sanding work will be a nightmare especially as you'll deal with very hybrid surfaces between the hard epoxy and the softer foam sandwitch.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Funny you should mention that. You will see a bit on that in a couple of weeks (5/20/23 video).

[@haydenwatson7987]

Ziploc baggies are very handy for very small size batches but if you are filling the bag very far it is more likely to burst. I also decorate cakes and have a large box of Wilton disposable decorating cone bags. These are very easy to load and are extremely tough.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Sounds good, we will look into some.

[@haydenwatson7987]

@@SailingSVLynx They make a variety of sizes which makes them very handy. I have the 12" and 16" sizes and can be found at many Walmart's and all Mickael's or Hobby Lobby stores.

[@svlamancha9877]

Great progress guys. You could consider switching the planking method on the next hull and plank bottom up. I know your concerns about clean up but you are fighting gravity. Make gravity work for you. You will find it easier to lay a bead of epoxy on a plank and place the next plank on top of it. You could then give a real world review of each method for future builders. 👍

[@SailingSVLynx]

Well, first of all, gravity is already working for us and won't be better the other way around. If you watch the video part where we are putting on the bead, the strip is perfectly vertical and we are laying the epoxy on the top. Having found that this works out perfectly, we see no reason to spend time crawling up under each segment of the boat to wipe out excess epoxy for the last few strips when we don't see any benefits. We'd rather save our muscles and time, doing the limbo and boat yoga that many times would be tiresome, to say the least. So, we plan to keep doing it this way. (sorry)

[@ApprenticeGM]

Great video as always. A productivity tip @16:00 get a builder's belt bag and drop the screws & washers into it as you go. Much faster than constantly transferring them to the container as you go as your friend helping did. It's great you have so many helpers.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Brian and I do have and sometimes use tool belts.

[@Patnaples5881]

Hi, from Naples,Fl. I’m going to be following you till the boat is done I hope, will be 82 in July,and looking forward to splashing, Thanks for sharing 👍

[@SailingSVLynx]

Thanks for following us, Patrick. We look forward to the day we splash as well (though it will be the greatest day of terror in the entire project, as that means the boat will be lifted by crane, put on a flatbed truck, driven 35 miles by freeway and road, then lifted, again, by a crane, then put into the water where we hope she doesn't leak through the many through hulls.) Still, we look forward to that terrifying day.

[@jaycroyle8761]

Love this series, its quite hard to imagine just how much work it takes to get to the end. I can imagine it's kind of a labor of love. All the best to you on this build. Jay from Pa.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Well, it is partially a labor of love, but we also keep going like a carrot in front of a donkey (in our case, an ass?) We keep our circumnavigation dreams out in front, driving us along.

[@edwardlefkow3442]

Really great progress for the week...congrats

[@SailingSVLynx]

Thanks, next week will be a bit less progress, video to follow as to why. :(

[@philiphemphill4980]

Your doing a great job the time estimates are irelavent just as long as each day is productive by the way there a guy building a yacht in I think Iceland his you tube channel is called Sea Camel his epoxy is from a company called Green Turtle keep up the good work cheers from OZ

[@SailingSVLynx]

I agree, but some viewers asked us to track our time on the project. For us, I am happy each day we make progress.

[@ctown6971]

You make it look easy. The marvelous wonders of editing. Lol

[@SailingSVLynx]

No doubt!

[@ctown6971]

Even with having to hand do the additional things to the epoxy for additives you will still be very happy if you purchase the epoxy mixing pump. It makes things so much simpler and quicker when it dispenses the proper amount. You should seriously think about investing in the pump station.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Yes, we are thinking of a dispenser, but not a mixing machine. $400 vs $1,300, plus less cleanup and nozzle replacements.

[@dnomyarnostaw]

​@Sailing SV Lynx If by "dispenser " you are talking about hand pumped "spouts", forget it. They clog up pretty quickly, and start being innacurate even on small jobs.

[@ricbace]

you should use peelply to avoid sanding afterwords, It´s risky to sand that... you can sand the fiber in some parts... take care!

[@SailingSVLynx]

In this case we are meant to sand some of the laminate edges. There will be additional layers of basalt cloth epoxied over the canoes. However, we will be using peel ply one those final layers.

[@bradfordsimms715]

The worst thing about Epoxy is it takes way longer than polyester to kick, The best thing about Epoxy is it takes way longer than polyester to kick

[@SailingSVLynx]

lol, truth!

[@charliemckenzie3554]

This is not true . Polyester can be speed up or slowed down with the catalyst ratio .epoxy starts warming the moment you mix it

[@DaveHines1]

“An expert is just someone who has already made most of the mistakes “ 😃🍻

[@SailingSVLynx]

Most? I think we're making all of them. ;)

[@DaveHines1]

@@SailingSVLynx most as there are always some more you can make 😃

[@SailingSVLynx]

So true!

[@sergueiothonucci1638]

😃😃😃😃

[@SailingSVLynx]

🤟

[@kennethyoung3911]

Splines are not biscuits.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Sorry, but that is the name that Schionning uses for these in the plans, so that's what we call them.

[@ricbace]

did you thought about thermoform the foam instead of strips glue? I´m planning to build in the future a trimaran.

[@SailingSVLynx]

We follow Schionning Designs guidelines on how to build their boats. I meet with them all the time and make sure we are building to their knowledgeable methods.

[@rickcreel3657]

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do something. They think that you are as dumb as they are. The man that built a 100-foot power catamaran looked into water makers and thought they were overpriced so he took an electric-powered pressure washer and made his design for much less money. Bamboo lattice cabinet doors are light and breath and when you leave your boat you don't have to open lockers and doors.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Thanks Rick, and yeah, we saw some of those bamboo doors on Sailing Jupiter. :)

[@bill2292]

Truth of the ages: "Problem is, I'm swamped". There are three timeless solutions. Slow down and extend the timeline, second, bring on a few more craftsmen and manage more (work less) or third, go crazy.... 🙂

[@SailingSVLynx]

I choose to go crazy, simply because I'm already there anyway. :)

[@user-nq4cj8ug3s]

What is the name and type of foam that is sandwiched between the fiberglass that you are cutting into strips for planking the hulls. I would like to k ow so I can buy some of this foam and put fiberglass myself.

[@SailingSVLynx]

The panels we use come from Advanced Materials Solutions in South Africa. I believe they are closed-cell cross-linked structural PVC foam, though AMS uses a special process that puts a grid of holes through the foam where small pillars of epoxy are created by vacuum bagging to pulls the epoxy through to add additional structural support to the foam.

[@dnomyarnostaw]

What's a fickleman, from your transcript. ?

[@SailingSVLynx]

I am not sure what the transcript is doing, but it probably meant Sicomin, a brand of laminating epoxy.

[@rickcreel3657]

I know you are people of numbers so you do the math. The strength of bamboo is scary. Herculian bamboo from Columbia has a tensile strength of 28,000 psi but aluminum's tensile strength is 30,000 psi. So the ripping strength of a cubic foot of aluminum is 4,320,000 pounds at a weight of 166 pounds. One cubic foot of bamboo rips at 4,032,000 pounds and only weighs 20 pounds. If you have enough bamboo blocks to weigh the same 166 pounds of the aluminum block the ripping strength of the bamboo is over 33.465,600.

[@SailingSVLynx]

And where are you thinking we would use bamboo?

[@rickcreel3657]

@@SailingSVLynx Sailing Mangrove Charlie in Australia found marine plywood and boards. His name is Wayne and he is a designer and boat builder. If the bulkheads in Lagoon Cats were made of bamboo they probably would not have failed. You could start with a bamboo dingy. The interior could be light bamboo cabinets.

[@dalgamor]

The thing is... this is a kit catamaran. We already have 95% of everything. All of the cabinets are built in, the dinghy is sitting my side yard, the bulkheads are part of the kit. About the only place we could use bamboo is for the cabinet doors, and we had been considering that already. We do appreciate your thoughts, but, for the most part, we have made all our purchases and now it is just time to build.

[@nickbrennan3925]

There’s way too much movement in your form. It should be bolted to the concrete and levelled with the waterline and the centre line not able to move as you work. I’m concerned about the final shape and fairness of the canoes as the rest of the boat is built up from those. Anything out of position will transfer into the rest of the structure and continue to get worse the further you go.

[@SailingSVLynx]

We are satisfied that it is fine. But when you build your boat, feel free to do it the way you prefer. To each their own.

[@nickbrennan3925]

@@SailingSVLynxMaybe my advise was misunderstood as criticism? Securing strong-backs and forms to level hard floors or structures is advise any professional boat builder would offer. It is however possible to mount a strong back or larger forms to a mobile platform on heavy duty casters with lock brakes to prevent unnecessary movement, as moving larger boats around during their construction can be handy, This method should only be considered if the floor is plumb level or the platform can be adjusted back to true after moving. This is not a preference or an opinion it’s sound boat building practice, I was merely attempting to help you from running into fitment and alignment problems further into your build. I really hope your hulls turn out ok. FYI: I’ve never built a boat for myself, too busy with customers boats…👍🏼

[@SailingSVLynx]

@@nickbrennan3925 The problem with your advice is simple, it is far too late, the first canoe is nearly finished. It is monetarily impossible as it would cost an incredible amount of money which we don't have. And it is impractical since we cannon possibly move the partially finished boat at this stage. So, basically your advice is counter productive to our project. We are where we will build the boat and no one"s advice can change that reality.

[@ctown6971]

My projection is your splash date wont be till early 2026.

[@SailingSVLynx]

Noted, and added to the competition. :)

[@thinkcasting3182]

Have you seen Life on the Hulls? We literally watched him turn into an old man in the process. Then toward the end when detail counts, he is hurrying. Home made is usually always homemade.

[@Finn-McCool]

22:22 One thing "the admiral" is not doing is putting a Swiffer in her hand and actually doing some prideful domestic caretaking😅. If I were to put my home office on display for the world to see and my wooden surfaces looked like they have a layer of dust on them from the Clinton administration it would embarrass my wife to no end. No matter what silly honorary title of I give her. Which by the way is: "goddess" 😍👍 Swiffer+Endust admiral. Something you can use your white glove for 😉. Show some pride in your home folks! Maybe I watch too much Hoarders on TV? 😂 All in good fun. Love the channel. Subbed immediately after seeing the first recommended video. Because one cannot follow too many boat building channels can they? It started with SV seeker some 15 years ago. Then Acorn to Arabella Nomad Boat Builder Life on the Hulls Tips from a Shipwright (Lou) Western Flyer Salt and Tar BRUPEG etc etc etc. -✌️ PS: You can use some quality tensile tape in order to pull the strip up into place in order to hold it in place up against the previous strip whilst the epoxy cures. (Epoxy doesn't "dry" as your lovely friend the screw removing crewmate suggested) 😉 PSS: It was painful to see the emotion in the admirals eyes when you mentioned a catastrophe! Yikes, everyone loves a cliffhanger but nobody looks forward to seeing a bonafide catastrophe!!!

[@SailingSVLynx]

Oh, don't get her started. The office is my responsibility, meaning, it is the one room of the house I'm supposed to dust. But, as in the comment I answered about doing shorts, I am spread a little thin (like that dust layer). I'll get to it as soon as I can, but it's not a high priority. Dust, or build the boat? Hmmm

[@Finn-McCool]

@@SailingSVLynx 😂 "You had ONE job" 😜 Whomever came up with that trope never had an unfinished vessel in their backyard! HAHA 😁