1st Look: CMMG 5.7 Upper & Trijicon SRO

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Here is a 1st Look at some new gear I just got in. Starting with the new CMMG 5.7x28 Upper Receiver with a 8" barrel. Rather than going to traditional PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine) route of using a dedicated lower receiver to take pistol magazines, they have came up with 40 round magazines that fit into a standard AR-15 lower receiver.
To top the new little gun I have a Trijicon SRO in a Scalarworks LEAP Mount. And since shooting suppressed is always fun, I tried the Q Erector Silencer on the gun as well. All together making for a nice light package.
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[@rhubarbpie2027]

A CMMG 5.7 Upper would be a lot of fun for varminting...😃

[@snp4dx]

Hey Ivan, I just want you to know that you're one of my favorite up and comers in the gun world. Love your content!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks for that man!

[@patmaloney5735]

Gotta appreciate how understated KB is.

[@bofeity]

One step closer to the 5.7 MP7 dream. TommyBuilt where are you?!

[@kennyphelps1160]

You mean 4.6

[@Randy_84]

Mp7 runs 4.6x30... not sure what gun you're thinking of. And you can get demilled mp7. The issue is finding non FA parts for it.

[@bofeity]

And the MP7 is the only gun to use that caliber whereas the 5.7 is growing to more platforms. Would we all like a TB MP7 in 4.6? Sure but it’s far more likely it would be chambered in 5.7, that’s what I was getting at.

[@Randy_84]

@@bofeity I just built a 8" ar pistol in 5.7x28, so I feel ya 👍

[@Mike-yy4ll]

@@Randy_84 I've seen ammo for sale. It's quite possible to make barrel and trigger from scratch or adapt existing. Due to low demand it will be one-off like the Bizon in 5000$ range.

[@oregonoutback7779]

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Glad to see the windshield won in the end.

[@KitBadger]

I came around... :)

[@FrankThaThird]

Would be a lot cooler if 5.7 wasn’t so expensive, maybe I should stop being a poor.

[@KitBadger]

I'm hoping with Ruger jumping in the 5.7 game, the price will come down.

[@slappp6163]

It's down to 30cpr with targetsports premium

[@69deputy]

Dam poors!

[@justinofboulder]

I would encourage that choice......

[@adonian]

If you already have a lower you can get a conversion kit for like $800. Or buy the mags, the barrel and BCG, and an upper over time like I am. I just ordered the barrel and BCG from MidwayUSA last night.

[@thejonesy8173]

Hats off to you. I can tell you’re cold as fuck and still doing work.

[@KitBadger]

Cold morning, the sun made it to me when I finally finished shooting and filming. :)

[@akompsupport]

Great channel. Glad I'm subbed. Nice cool melodies coming out over high def 4K res. Good editing. A thought provoking caliber conversion. Ten minutes. Excellent pacing, just the right amount of time. Thanks for posting.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks for that Emanuel!

[@chatnasty]

Tacos and gun channels are the best.

[@KitBadger]

#facts

[@AnonymousMontanantoo]

Dang!! That right there is pretty darn sexy. 5.7 is definitely an interesting round, really nice flat trajectory. Great Vid as always!!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks buddy.

[@wwclay86]

That CMMG and SRO is a sexy combo

[@KitBadger]

Makes for a lot of fun. :)

[@derek3154]

Kit Badger and that suppressor is nice, but it states for .22 - would you leave it on the gun or just spot shooting? Building an Aero upper/lower with the 8” kit from CMMG and need a dedicated suppressor for it.

[@dakotasavoie1]

Here come the “is that a sbr lower” comments 😩🙄😂

[@drexelmathews7312]

But subscribers who watch the channel regularly, will know that it is an SBR lower. It has a few appearances. One being the Sugar Weasel by Q review.

[@matthewmartz1369]

He mentioned in there that it was an sbr lower

[@dakotasavoie1]

Yup, that’s my point.

[@itskidkelly]

Lol wtf is a SBR lower? Sounds like something a stepper would make up.

[@GunRunnersTrainingCo]

@@itskidkelly SBR stands for "Short Barreled Rifle" and is an item under the NFA that has to be registered, and since the registered part on an AR is the lower, you have to register the lower as an SBR so you can put uppers with barrels less than 16 inches on the lower.

[@Aegisltd]

Enjoyed the video, thanks for braving the cold & posting this video! My 2 cents: Install a Phase 5 Weapon Systems Inc Extended Bolt Release V3 to your lower. I think you'll find it helps with ergonomics & speed.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks man, and I'll have to take a look at those, I'm not familiar with them.

[@MrRebar15]

*Kit Badger* thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. God Bless.

[@KitBadger]

Glad to share it, thank you for watching.

[@Noah-xo7ek]

That thang looks dope. Been wondering when they were going to make a 'normal sized' AR pistol caliber mag.

[@KitBadger]

Yes, non proprietary magazines is a big plus.

[@mattwalters6834]

Not everyday that one comes across a gun channel that’s unintentionally ASMR 😴

[@KitBadger]

#winning

[@justinofboulder]

That's the build I want to do next! I really like how light that cartage is and the fact that I can run a lighter suppressor (my 22lr can is rated for 5.7)

[@KitBadger]

It’s a blast to shoot. :)

[@michaelbirdsong196]

love your videos man!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Michael!

[@victorvasquez2788]

Yes sir I like it!!

[@miggytensavages1659]

CALL OF DUTY BLACK OPS 2 did it first with the PEACEKEEPER. This is badass. What i would love to see is for Keltec to make the CMR30 in a 5.7 platform. . .its a sacrifice that needs to be made to bring us as a civilian market that much closer to that German MP7. Think about it I can see the 5.7 blowing the 4.6 out of the water on ballistic performances.

[@eagleone5456]

I don't know why you'd ever want it but sure is sweet!

[@KitBadger]

#justforfun Or for new shooters I think there is probably a lot of value.

[@eagleone5456]

@@KitBadger yeah the fun value is high but the cost is even higher! New shooters might opt for cheaper but I definitely get where you're coming from. Would love to get a PCC to get more of my family shooting.

[@anjelmunoz804]

I just got mine mounted on yesterday

[@ipanzerschrecku4732]

very tasty... first pcc I would buy

[@KitBadger]

Definitely pretty fun to shoot. :)

[@rideordietheyretring2tranx382]

Yeah I watch tfbtv Road to Shot and I was very impressed with CMMG factory... and this new little Daisy

[@rideordietheyretring2tranx382]

Very very very interested to see the reliability and performance

[@rideordietheyretring2tranx382]

LOL cute little bullets

[@rideordietheyretring2tranx382]

Also very interested to see how the boys do with that platform

[@KitBadger]

My youngest has been liking it. :)

[@af22raptor23503]

Very Cool!

[@abbaby555]

Real nice 👍

[@Jerry-Parker]

Very Nice ! 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@jrpalm1948]

I remember I was hammering on a fence in the backyard when Dad approached. He was carrying a letter or something in his hand, and he looked worried. I continued to hammer as he came toward me. “Son,” he said, “why are you hammering on that fence? It already has plenty of nails in it.” “Oh, I’m not using nails,” I replied. “I’m just hammering.” With that, I returned to my hammering. Dad asked me to stop hammering, as he had some news. I did stop hammering, but first I got a couple more hammers in, and this seemed to make Dad mad. “I said, stop hammering!” he yelled. I think he felt bad for yelling at me, especially since it looked like he had bad news. “Look,” he said, “you can hammer later, but first-” Well, I didn’t even wait to hear the rest. As soon as I heard “You can hammer,” that’s what I started doing. Hammering away, happy as an old hammer dog. Dad tried to physically stop me from hammering by inserting a small log of some sort between my hammer and the fence. But I just kept on hammering, ’cause that’s the way I am when I get that hammer going. Then, he just grabbed my arm and made me stop. “I’m afraid I have some news for you,” he said. I swear, what I did next was not hammering. I was just letting the hammer swing lazily at arm’s length, and maybe it tapped the fence once or twice, but that’s all. That apparently didn’t make any difference whatsoever to Dad, because he just grabbed my hammer out of my hand and flung it across the field. And when I saw my hammer flying helplessly through the air like that, I just couldn’t take it. I burst out crying, I admit it. And I ran to the house, as fast as my legs could take me. “Son, come back!” yelled Dad. “What about your hammer?!” But I could not have cared less about hammering at that point. I ran into the house and flung myself onto my bed, pounding the bed with my fists. I pounded and pounded, until finally, behind me, I heard a voice. “As long as you’re pounding, why not use this?” I turned, and it was Dad, holding a brand-new solid-gold hammer. I quickly wiped the tears from my eyes and ran to Dad’s outstretched arms. But suddenly, he jumped out of the way, and I went sailing through the second-story window behind him. Whenever I hear about a kid getting in trouble with drugs, I like to tell him this story.

[@hiramrodriguez4323]

Wtf

[@lon242]

Note to self, check out that Baer target

[@KitBadger]

It is a fun one to run first thing at the range.

[@sambedingfield9054]

Did Q give you any crap for running 5.7 through the erector? I just got mine in today and noticed it said 22lr only but was a bit confused by that when seeing your video running it with the 5.7. Have you had any long term issues with it by chance?

[@KitBadger]

No, but it isn’t advised. It will probably not stand up to it long term.

[@mattberry4457]

i bet the boys will put the habeas grabbus on that.

[@KitBadger]

They've already been shooting it some. :)

[@InGratitudeIam]

The P90 has a 10" barrel for a reason. I asked CMMG if they could do an upper with a 10" barrel and they said, "Nope, not going to happen." I hope they change their mind.

[@BuffRANGE]

Their 8" barrel achieves very close to the same if not better than the 10" P90 barrel.

[@justinofboulder]

They do sell one with a 16" barrel, perhaps you could have a smith machine it to 10"

[@charleslowrey9309]

I got a 10.5" upper in 5.7 when they first came out. Guess they stopped making them.

[@davidhudson2527]

Please open your presents closer to the Christmas tree next time. 🌲🎁🎄😋

[@KitBadger]

Hahaha, I'll just walk over next to a tree on the range. :)

[@adonian]

Awesome a .22 silencer works with it yay. I won’t need a different tax stamp and another 800$ 😂 Just ordered a 5” barrel and the BCG last night. Gotta wait till next paycheck to get the mags and upper.

[@KitBadger]

Nice!

[@Bigburt-]

That looks fuckin sick

[@KitBadger]

It is a lot of fun. :)

[@lllllREDACTEDlllll]

This thing makes no sense. As a training tool 5.7 is waaaay too expensive. The same thing could be achieved with .22 in an AR platform. So if it's not training cost then why?... Recoil? Come on 5.56 is not that intense even for new shooters, or hell even newborns. Is it ballistically superior... No. Seems like a pointless gimmick that we'll eventually see Gun Jesus review in 10 years or so. Keep up the good work though, the content is great.

[@KitBadger]

It is easy to get cavalier about recoil, but when you introduce kids, they are pretty sensitive to it, coupled with noise. This does help on both fronts. But I think it is still really niche with how expensive ammo is. :)

[@sheeessshh3161]

"Yes let us make a round that penetrates body armor, but let's put in in an AR platform since none of the calibers its loaded in can do that "

[@kennyphelps1160]

The 5.7 round is very flat shooting and almost no recoil, so in full auto there is a lot of reason for it.

[@ashleycalhoun1824]

I'd say the bright side is the massively shortened barrel without the massive blast of unburned powder.

[@sheeessshh3161]

Ok guys I saw the replies now remember how the DOJ restricts the ammo that expands after entering armor. Now realize this negates all of the arguments for chambering the AR in a more expensive bullet that does less.

[@ashleycalhoun1824]

@@sheeessshh3161 I wouldn't say all the arguments.

[@sheeessshh3161]

@@ashleycalhoun1824 agreed not all,but the main points of the 5.7 are negated

[@jeremytaylor7050]

Didn't know the erector would handle 5.7, what about 22mag and 17hmr? Any clue

[@joshmajors5963]

The weather looks great there. Been debating on a 5.7 or a 7.62 and leaning towards the 5.7 for the light recoil and velocity. Is the cheaper ammo at an advantage over this or still better for a 5.7?

[@KitBadger]

I think 5.7 is still relatively expensive.

[@joshmajors5963]

@@KitBadger yea i had looked it up yesterday and not only was it the price of my .50 Beowulf ammo, but almost out of stock everywhere. The 7.62x39 definitely wins the inexpensive award.

[@tuxeedo18laliberty]

Hey @@kitbadger would you consider doing a playlist of the intro songs, I dig them

[@KitBadger]

Yes and I should. I'll try and figure out how to post that. Maybe on my weekly email or something.

[@tuxeedo18laliberty]

@@KitBadger how do I get on the weekly email

[@KitBadger]

@@tuxeedo18laliberty go to www.kitbadger.com sign up at the bottom. :)

[@AnonymousMontanantoo]

Why we cant have nice things😀😀😀😀😀🤣🤣😂

[@dgio5052]

What type of buffer were you using? Did you try other weights off camera? 🤘🇺🇸

[@KitBadger]

I'm pretty sure it is a H2 in that lower.

[@derek3154]

CMMG states standard AR buffer is all you need. I think I’d put a folder on it with the 8” barrel, great PDW/truck gun.

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

Didn't think the Q Erector was rated for anything other than 22lr much less 5.7x28 since it's super light aluminum.

[@KitBadger]

Just don't shoot 5.56 through it. :)

[@BuffRANGE]

@@KitBadger They must have changed this stance. When I asked Q about even shooting subsonic 5.7 through 3 yrs ago for review they told me 22lr only :(

[@derek3154]

Kit Badger Kit Badger and that suppressor is nice, but it states for .22 - would you leave it on the gun or just spot shooting? Building an Aero upper/lower with the 8” kit from CMMG and need a dedicated suppressor for it.

[@palmtack2164]

Factory tour please.

[@KitBadger]

Line it up for me. :)

[@SamuelTravisxsammytrav]

it looks like more blow back not being set up right. is this a delayed action?( i can look it up myself nvm) on the reload. if you want to try a different technique try keeping the stock in your shoulder for more control.

[@KitBadger]

I'm not a fan of that method, I don't find it to translate well for me under NODs. If it works for you though, awesome. Thanks for watching Samuel.

[@noizychild]

Does this have a full mass m16 profile bolt carrier? Can it be used with a binary or echo style trigger?

[@KitBadger]

I don't recall, I'll look when I get a chance.

[@noizychild]

@@KitBadger thanks

[@kms7852]

Can you put a magnifier behind on this SRO optic?

[@velocitydreamer]

Ever end up finding out? I'm interested as well.

[@kms7852]

@@velocitydreamer it was not good

[@velocitydreamer]

@@kms7852 what exactly was the result? I appreciate it, just curious.

[@kms7852]

@@velocitydreamer you can see through it but a lot of distortion on the reticle and sight picture. Tried it with both aimpoint 3xc and Holosun hm3x. Some housing of the SRO was visible as hazy black when moving around the eye box

[@haynbong]

Looks awesome 👍 Ammo price not awesome 👎 plus I live Hawaii even more 💩👎😂

[@KitBadger]

I'm hoping with all the new 5.7 guns, to include Ruger's, the ammo will come down in price.

[@chrissewell1608]

So how do you like the SRO Optic? I think I would prefer the large viewing port on that red dot.

[@KitBadger]

I'm liking it so far. I find it pretty quick to pick up and I like the circular lens.

[@velocitydreamer]

@@KitBadger considered the SRO w/ Magnifier? Considering it, but not sure about lining them up etc

[@mozzberg590]

This setup makes zero sense, to me. It's the same size as an AR but the ammo is more expensive and not as good for defensive use, comparatively speaking.

[@Ghost17110]

idk man you can get some SUPER hot AP ammo for this stuff, way hotter than the "police only" (which was never true) AP rounds FN originally made for 5.7 it'd be a pretty cool thing to keep with a few hundred rounds on deck, but it's not at all a "practical" gun for the majority of purposes if that's the only thing you look for

[@miggytensavages1659]

If this weapon platform is a success. Other weapon manufacturers will copy this concept and improve it and doing so will bring for common use for 5.7. Just like the 300 blk.

[@robertos4172]

Did you see the lack of recoil? No 556 fireball on an 8 in barrel. 8" AR's run like shit. Especially in the cold

[@KitBadger]

I think some of the real value will be introducing new shooters the the platform. Real lower, real trigger, real sized magazines... I like the M&P15-22, but it is a stand alone that lacks the ability of throwing a upper on a lower.

[@altonkriel]

@@rifleshooterchannel208 ahh so dont buy it than

[@YanicEtoCharles]

what size Scalarworks LEAP

[@THEZOMBIEBUNKER]

What can 5.7 do that 22 TCM can't do at half the cost

[@jimyeats]

Well for one it’s chambered in a few more guns than the 22 tcm. Two, 22tcm is not half the price. But otherwise, not a whole ton. I made a 22tcm AR upper using a 22tcm ar barrel, standard bolt and short gas system, and the CMMG 9mm ARC mag (using 22tcm9R to fit). Worked ok, didn’t have quite enough gas.

[@ACYT298]

What stand are you using for the cardboard target?

[@KitBadger]

The one from TATargets.

[@Johnny_Cash_Flow]

PENNYWISE. 80's Porn music. PENNYWISE!

[@KitBadger]

Peanut Butter & Jelly

[@mattberry4457]

ma’am, here’s your large pepperoni pizza.

[@ryanv7075]

Johnny Cash Flow 😂

[@bly4233]

Not what I would have wanted. Want to impress me? Should take FN P90 mags on top AND FN57 pistol mags through mag well. Pet peeve: unnecessary proprietary magazines. There are 30-round 57 pistol mags...that would have been better with an adapter.

[@BuffRANGE]

Pro Mag 30 rd mags are garbage. The 10rd extension only works with the older USG mags lacking the front divider.

[@sweeeytacticaltraining117]

What gloves are you running

[@KitBadger]

First Spear, link in the description.

[@Qsaws_]

I fucking hate that 5.7 is banned as a caliber here in it's home in Belgium.

[@KitBadger]

#irony

[@Qsaws_]

@@KitBadger Exacly, journalist freaked out about it being a "cop killer" round and it got banned. All other calibers are allowed tho, just a dumb law all around (as most/all gun laws).

[@snowfox22]

Dear Santa, ;)

[@mtiger5]

What leap mount is this 1.42” or the 1.57”?? Thanks!!

[@puremaddeathyesiam4204]

Tell China that the new weapon that America is going to use so they can copy it and we come out with a new 6.5 creedmore M 14 rifle lol

[@theredhands843]

Is there a standard distance for this drill?

[@KitBadger]

Yes, it is printed on the target for rifle and pistol: baersolutionsllc.com/page3/

[@AKlover]

FN should have just made a 5.56 P-90

[@KitBadger]

That would be pretty cool. Not sure if the dimensions would allow it.

[@yakc130]

I swear I saw a guy on a bike roll through at 7:40.

[@dcambitionz2054]

yakc130 it was smoke from the side of the gun.

[@DA-hc8lp]

That would’ve been the most terrifying bike ride ever.

[@greghoneywell9542]

i remember there being another ar upper that took the p90 mags

[@kennyphelps1160]

There is by another company

[@BuffRANGE]

@@kennyphelps1160 They are currently not in production.

[@foxhound9285]

I believe some yahoo used one of those non serialized trigger packs on a upper and it functioned well. ATF is now changing their mind about uppers that have the mag on the top.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@foxhound9285 I briefly remember seeing that mention from the ATF. Isn't the ATF also losing a battle about whether an AR-15 lower is really a "firearm"?

[@mps9608]

ok, I am going to have to stop watching these videos. Just one more Caliber that I need for my AR lower.

[@KitBadger]

Hahaha, I think as a caliber it is pretty niche, we'll see. :)

[@mps9608]

I just added 350 Legend. I am going to hold off on 5.7 for now. If I lived in a free state I would buy the new Ruger 5.7 and then of course I would need an AR upper in 5.7 to go along with it.

[@KitBadger]

@@mps9608 nice, I've heard good stuff about that.

[@JO3haNsum]

Did he use a regular AR lower? For 556/223?

[@KitBadger]

Yes.

[@herie170]

Is that Ferdnan GC

[@KitBadger]

Fernan Rod and Gun Club. :)

[@herie170]

@@KitBadger looked familiar I landed in rathdrum when I ets'd in 05. Keep up the good work. I am enjoying watching your stuff.

[@KitBadger]

@@herie170 nice! It is a great area up here.

[@ishygddtfr]

You fuckin' serious with that turtleneck?

[@KitBadger]

I never joke about Turtlenecks... And what turtleneck? There isn't one in the video.

[@taothetaoist-6166]

love trijicon but their tainted glass just makes wanna use eotech instead

[@KitBadger]

I haven't found there to be much of a tint to this one, unlike the MROs.

[@taothetaoist-6166]

@@KitBadger trijicon always have darker glass compare with the docter optic and eotech. In low light environment I really do prefer clear glass like the eotech mini or the docter optic, trijicon makes low light environment even more darker. To me, it is really hard to see with trijicon in dark places. In the end of the day, it is just personal preferences. But I do love trijicon too.

[@KitBadger]

@@taothetaoist-6166 I follow.

[@YuriVelcroripper]

screwing that onto a new upper would make me a little nervous. I am sure he checked if the barrel was concentric

[@KitBadger]

Most places are pretty good about that these days. Now screwing it onto an AK...? :)

[@YuriVelcroripper]

@@KitBadger Roger that

[@hajihunterr7662]

Why would anyone chose an not ideal check weld with the Scalarworks mount?

[@KitBadger]

I'll check weld you if you question me again. And it is what I had on hand. Good for running night vision.

[@hajihunterr7662]

Will It's that company Scalarworks. I never seen an operator use a high optic before. It was alway a tight check weld.

[@KitBadger]

@@hajihunterr7662 they make lower stuff, a lot of optics are getting mounted higher these days though, due to shooting through NVGs. It is hard to look through the tube of an optic if it sits lower to the rail. I think Unity makes a 2"+ mount.

[@hajihunterr7662]

@@KitBadger The average joe (most people) will not have NVG's that will allow him or her to get a cheek weld. You know shooting with NVG's a Peq, is required therefore a hight mount is not needed. I love an support and manufacture that make gun stuff so don't get me wrong.

[@KitBadger]

@@hajihunterr7662 because of the lower cost of night vision, more and more shooting is done without lasers to defeat enemy capability. But I hear you. :)

[@salcidojosiah]

If Q had made the erector in black I would have bought it instead of the dead air mask.

[@KitBadger]

Get the El Camino. :)

[@salcidojosiah]

@@KitBadger I just stuck with dead air just so all my cans are the same brand. You can't beat dead air keymount.

[@KitBadger]

@@salcidojosiah on what front? They are heavy... :)

[@salcidojosiah]

@@KitBadger besides weight, they are more sescure than the cherry bomb.

[@KitBadger]

@@salcidojosiah interesting, I guess I didn't see it. How so? What makes them more secure?

[@hardlylivin6602]

It’s a cool upper, but I don’t see any practical applications for it myself. Sticking to the AR platform, 5.7 is not as powerful as 5.56, its not going to be as good of a suppressor host as a pcc 9mm or 45 acp upper, and it’s more expensive to shoot than all three of those.

[@KitBadger]

All of which is true, but the manipulations with PCCs (stick mags) is different. While niche, I think the value might be in introducing new shooters. We'll see when I get more time.

[@MikeB-yq8ym]

sorry friend, I dont mean to be a troll, but WTF are you shooting for speed on your video with a freshly unboxed, unzeroed weapon? did I miss some kind of point?

[@KitBadger]

Yes, you missed all my other 1st Look videos where I shoot a Cold Start out of the box, often with pistols so the optic/sights is a non-issue.

[@bobhaehn5470]

Nice. I would like to make an observation not to offend. Just in case you have 1st time viewers unfamiliar with gun safety. You should never assemble and fire any weapon without checking for bore obstructions or foreign objects in the action, right?

[@jimyeats]

Only so much you can show on camera. I think we’re all past the need to verbally and visually have all our guntubers walk through safety procedures.

[@bobhaehn5470]

@@jimyeats so cavalier and safety aware are synonymous?

[@KitBadger]

It is a good practice, but that isn't this video. I find that stuff tedious and not relevant to some content. On the flip side, if I do a series for new shooters, absolutely it would have value there.

[@yankey4]

Nice brother thank you for sharing. Need some advise. Broke as a joke. Need a red dot that has the auto on for my new farm AR pistol. This is a gun that I will be using around the house/farm. I am sick of beating up my nicer AR. This pistol is for hogs and coyotes also my wifes bump in the night gun. She likes it a LOT.. Thanks for your input guys and gals. God Bless. PS I live on a SMALL income so when i say cheap like 100 bucks or less would be nice. I know it's asking a lot.. Hehhe

[@Ghost17110]

Think the Romeo 5 is auto-on/shake-on

[@justinofboulder]

perhaps a good set of irons and call it good?

[@yankey4]

@@justinofboulder Hi and thanks. I have some. Why I need a red dot is I have a degenerative eye disease

[@yankey4]

Makes its hard to see irons. I can see them but not if I need to shoot fast.. Like a moving pig.

[@yankey4]

@@Ghost17110 Thank you I did not know of this. God Bless..

[@ramasser9067]

I don't see the advantage of this over an AR-57 upper.

[@KitBadger]

Other than what I mentioned in the video? :) Between the two, I prefer these, but to each their own.

[@ramasser9067]

@@KitBadger I watched the whole video and didn't hear you specifically talk about it, sorry if I missed it. It matches a lot of the points you brought out, such as the non proprietary lower, but magazine choices are better for the ar57 since you can use the standard ps90 magazine or any of the cheap clones. Liked the video though, keep up the good content!

[@KitBadger]

@@ramasser9067 No worries Brandon. :) For me the biggest advantage I've seen is that non proprietary lower, mixed with the same weapon handling as true ARs, coupled with lower recoil for new shooters / my boys.

[@jcuse122]

i would take this over a .22 lr conversion, if you're looking for something a litter lighter and softer shooting than an 5.56. Center fire cartridges are 10x more reliable than .22 lr

[@tteot1wph]

jcuse122 5.7x28 is also 10x louder than .22lr

[@jcuse122]

Jonathan S absolutely, quieter than 5.56 though

[@gorps]

Why would you pay more for a cartridge that's less effective than 5.56? Who struggles handling the recoil of a 5.56 anyways?

[@KitBadger]

New shooters do.

[@gorps]

@@KitBadger then why not just use a 22lr? There's less blast when not using a suppressor too. There's not a need for the slightly increased terminal performance if they're shooting for the first time

[@kevinruddthestudrudd0074]

Looks freezing.

[@KitBadger]

Not a warm morning...

[@giddy6196]

cmmg is interesting but not 1400 dollars interesting. Seen them in the stores aswell all mil spec parts, safety selector etc.. for the price, not kool.

[@KitBadger]

They make the spectrum, their 100, 200 and 300 series. The higher the number the better components. Top end has Geissele triggers and what not...

[@praydaily2092]

1st

[@KitBadger]

#win

[@rogerberry2193]

Rifle lower-pistol upper? ATTENTION ATF!! Is this a class 3 thing? If it is they should explain.

[@KitBadger]

Roger, did you get permission to post that comment...? :)

[@rogerberry2193]

@@KitBadger If you wish to build an SBR, ensure that all of the proper paperwork and tax stamps are in order before attaching a shoulder stock. Attaching an AR-15 pistol upper assembly with a barrel shorter than 16" to a rifle lower is also considered an SBR and will get you in trouble without the proper tax stamps in place. This guy in the video says you can put this upper on any lower. Yes I know what he meant but it would only take him a few seconds to say any pistol lower if you don't have a SBR STAMP! A lot of people like myself learn by watching videos but if they don't include what laws their is someone could get there guns taking away. The only reason I watched this video is because I want the Ruger 5.7 pistol but the AR in this caliber is still to pricey for my budget.

[@vadiml0111]

Roger the type of guy to write letters to the ATF about every firearm question 🙄 “Dear Mr. ATF man, will you please have sex with my wife if it pleases the crown”