MSI MPG X870E Carbon WiFi - DDR5 8000 for the win!

[@mdarifmdarif4253]

I like Leo's analysis , always very level headed and chilled - not 'end of the world' style like we get all the time

[@jrmoorega]

Thank you for the in depth and level-headed review. I very much appreciate your no-nonsense approach to evaluating hardware. Your reviews are a huge benefit in getting me prepared for an upcoming build when 9950X3D is generally available.

[@Dhyey494]

Thanks Leo, good tech breakdown at the start, the board itself seems solid as we though, if nothing massively groundbreaking (as we all thought)

[@SimonBennett-fw6zq]

Always an informative review from Leo !

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you think so!

[@chrismurphy8784]

@@KitGuruTech do you mind sharing your timings for your G.skill 8000mhz memory that you set up in bios??

[@robertmyers6488]

The board has a really neat bios. Wendell was talking about some of the memory features on it. Thanks Leo.

[@pixelrefresh348]

Its an amazing bios but with all that complexity comes problems.

[@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252]

What problems ?

[@pixelrefresh348]

@@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252 Its going to have been built on some api running in C and with more apis the more chances there are for massive security issues. Cant beat the old machine code ones.

[@rufusmctavish1164]

great looking mobo, I love the look of the tomahawk as well. their current range looks great. The ACE was always the board I wanted but i could never justify the price.

[@treyquattro]

great review! MSI have been reducing their high-end board range for some time: my absolute favorite was the UNIFY (have two!) but that seems to have ended in the Z690 era. Looks like CARBON is the new high-end MSI board (for those of us with more sense than money that are not seduced by the GODLIKE)

[@123Suffering456]

I'm running an X570 Unify right now as well, sad to see it not return. Likely going to grab the Carbon, though. It looks good too.

[@krzysztofkosobudzki8228]

I have MSI MEG B550 Unify , honestly I`m already miising for those series ( unify ) It was little bit cheaper than Godlike. For me Carbon Series never be good like Unify or Godlike or Ace, those mobo are MPG , not MEG ;) maybe for MSI... only from a marketing point of view.

[@JohnDoe-cj3cl]

Just bought this badboy. I was looking to upgrade from a Asus X570 motherboard and AMD 5900x setup. This X870E board is almost evenly priced with Asus's better X870 boards and since Asus flushed their warranty reliability down the toilet I was looking for other motherboard brands. After watching this great review I could not be more excited. Great stuff Leo!

[@Mario211DE]

Gonna also buy this board once 9800x3d is here. Coming also from 5900x and 4080. Playing 4k high fps, so I guess there will be less improvement than on 1080p, but still, im excited

[@FJano12]

How is the board?

[@Mario211DE]

@@FJano12 CPU is still out of stock. But Mobo is great quality build wise. And lots of great I/O cant say more just yet. Pre Ordered tge 9800x3d a month ago now almost

[@FJano12]

@@Mario211DEJust ordered the board. Waiting for the 9950x3d next month. Ordered some ddr5 8000 as well. Hope will work out.

[@nathanthreshie199]

Asus flushed their warranty down toilet?

[@camelcase811]

It was a pleasure to build with this fully featured board recently. The BIOS is just lovely to use and a true tweakers delight!!

[@darrk_matter]

I may have to cough up the dough for this because it’s the best looking board I’ve ever seen and having the additional features is just a bonus.

[@kodiak1532]

Excellent presentation, appreciate your work on this!

[@RohitSen-ft1hh]

The price is rather high, until you see the price of the Godlike or the high end ASUS board I assume you are reviewing soon. thats going to have to be amazing to be worth the asking price

[@Linuxdistro15-ih8ox]

Thanks Leo - good review

[@Aniketgorade9292]

Great board - loads of connectivity and looks fantastic.

[@ApplePotato]

With the mandatory adoption of USB4 and Wifi-7, there is probably not enough market separation between the Ace and Carbon.

[@amdforlife5591]

Msi have made some great boards. Only issue is that they often don’t update bios as fast or often as gigabyte or ASUs.

[@marios3761]

On AMD platforms the opposite is true ASUS is the slowest

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

I have one of these ordered for a project ! Great timing 🤘🏻

[@Aradmahogany1991]

me too! 70 dollar rebate and a free ssd cant go wrong with that! essentially makes the cost of the board sub 400 USD for me

[@Itsameamario-ns3se]

Yeah agree 💯

[@GregM]

@@Aradmahogany1991 That board is $700 Canadian here

[@NoahLife97]

Leo does the best reviews!! Love it

[@hgmyyt]

i was waiting for this review, thanks! ❤ i need 3 full lengh slots and a lot+ of high speed usb

[@RobFisherUK]

A recent Buildzoid video ("General AM5 OC") said, "if you can run 8000 in 2:1 mode with UCLK and FCLK synchronised at 2000MHz, you would". The problem, he said, is it's hard to get working on most boards. Sounds like it's not hard to get working on this board!

[@pixelrefresh348]

I do like white motherboards but carbon black looks very cool indeed. Might even be a bit better for heat disappation

[@DELTA9XTC]

thats probably the one Ill buy for my 9800x3D (or maybe 9950x3D) + 5090 combo cant wait

[@DELTA9XTC]

and Im really curious to see the 7800x3D with 8000mhz memory and then ofc the 9800x3D with the same memory. If you can get those CPUs stable with such fast memory. I only care about gaming, so if it doesnt do anything for gaming, I will use this money for something else. This PC will already be extremely expensive, considering every part.

[@Decki777]

AMD DDR5 8000mhz will not improve performance because of infinity fabric limitation​@@DELTA9XTC

[@MrozuProjekt2]

where does the description that pci e2 has pcie 5.0 x16 come from? the manual says PCI_E1 & PCI_E2 slots • Supports PCIe 5.0 x16/x0 or x8/x4 (For Ryzen™ 9000/ 7000 Series processors) 3x PCI-E x16 slot (Qty) PCI_E1 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x16 (From CPU) PCI_E2 Gen PCIe 5.0 supports up to x4 (From CPU) PCI_E3 Gen PCIe 4.0 supports up to x4 (From Chipset)

[@KitGuruTech]

You'll have to clarify your question - as far as I can see, at 5:28 I say exactly what you wrote (and repeated the same information over on www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/leo-waldock/msi-mpg-x870e-carbon-wifi-review) Leo

[@sanjaybhatt7823]

Their low end boards are so good, its even hard to justify this one, although the power delivery looks to be a much higher level than the budget boards

[@RobFisherUK]

If you put an M.2 drive in that 2nd position you don't get full bandwidth on the GPU slot. Not sure if it matters much. I do like this board, though.

[@lolly_bread]

Yeh I've been trying to learn more about this cloudy subject. From what I've read it seems this CPU has 24 lanes to the PCIE 5, so presumably up to 16 (not even fully saturated) lanes would be used by the GPU leaving 12 for gen 5.0 nvme's? Could this be true, and if so perhaps we needn't worry about the whole "bandwidth sharing" business?

[@RobFisherUK]

@@lolly_bread According to the table on page 21 of the (English) manual, if you use either or both of the 2nd PCIe5 slot or the 2nd M.2 slot, you get 8 lanes to the main PCIe5 slot instead of 16. The question is whether this affects your frames per second. Bear in mind current GPUs are not using PCIe5, but 3 or 4, so bandwidth per lane will depend on that. Looking online, most sources say it doesn't make much difference for gaming. But in this video we're looking at tiny differences caused by different memory speeds, so perhaps it's enough to affect that.

[@skacjy]

@@lolly_bread 24 - 16 would be 8 lanes left, 4 lanes would be for primary m.2, leaving only 4 lanes left. From what I understand, since X870 requires USB4 directly from cpu, it uses the remaining lanes. that's why second and third gen5 m.2 slots needs to share lanes with x16. X670E on the other hand, does not require usb4, thus having the capability to have two m.2 gen5 without lane sharing with x16.

[@lolly_bread]

@@skacjy Thanks for your info. It begs the question that IF the USB4 isn't used/plugged-into, do those lanes then free up for nvme's, etc. I need to do more learning :)

[@necromancer1970]

Very satisfied with my MEG ACE X570 since 4 years (and will still go strong much longer in family/2ndary pc), quality board top to bottom. This new MPG X870E Carbon - instantly caught my eye. Already bought&ready on my workdesk (plus DDR5 etc.) to renew my build once the 9kX3D's come out...

[@Hullbreachdetected]

which DDR5 stack did you buy for your mobo?

[@necromancer1970]

@@Hullbreachdetected while on the overclocking spree from when i had my first pc (~1989) till ~2010 (and the actual real need to eek out every little bit of extra performance - bc stuff was....sloooow), i since then (and it's always great stock performance of new stuff, and factual real world irrelevance of +/- 3%) prefer quality+stable+troublefree. In this case 2x32GB GSkill Trident Z5 Neo RGB Expo 6000 CL30 (full code: F5-6000J3036G32GX2-TZ5NRW)

[@army7-b]

Are you going to look at the tomahawk? its a cracking looking board, dying to get some reviews on that one from Leo

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

Great video Leo. Haven’t watched d the benchmarking bit yet but the changes to the bios and the board overview was excellent. SSD performance was good but nothing stunning

[@harleylover9446]

That is a really quality looking board. under £500 today , seems like a great buy, although I would imagine a lot of people will not upgrade, or go shopping online for something cheaper. Not sure a lot of these features are mainstream, but good to see such a potential power delivery - means the caps will be running cool at normal loads for the CPUS used.

[@Eesaregood]

Its probably not work an upgrade but if you're doing a new build its totally worth it.

[@Saad-ir6cv]

Guys I'm in two minds between the MSI MPG x870e carbon and the older version x670e Should I go with the newest one or the old one? I heard I might have problems as it is brand new and there are no bios updates like x670e

[@PhotoJohn80]

Glad I got a steal on the asrock taichi x670e. These new MBs just aren’t worth the extra price for 99 percent of people.

[@johnerikson2443]

How much was it man ?

[@PhotoJohn80]

@@johnerikson2443 350 on Newegg 2 weeks ago. It dropped from 420 I think. I don’t think that is bad for a high end MB with two thunderbolt ports and 4 m.2 with pcie 5.0. The only feature it’s missing is 5gbe and WiFi 7. I don’t use WiFi and 2.5gbe is all I need considering my internet is maxed at 1gbe. I can always add a 10gbe network card or something later on if needed. So 150 cheaper than this board with all the important features for me is a steal in my eyes. My opinion might differ greatly than yours.

[@Terry-cw9ty]

I have the black version amazing board, the hottest I've ever seen my 7950x3d go under load is 77 degrees. I'm using a Huge Y70 with 2x140 bottom & 3x120 side intakes, 2x140 top & 1x120 rear exhaust, Cooler Master MA824 tower cooler, TT1350watt. Best setup I've ever had.

[@Terry-cw9ty]

Hyte Y70 sorry

[@rufusmctavish1164]

@@Terry-cw9ty I think a lot of the new features are not really needed by most people, the higher spec memory support with solid VRM updates should help, USB 4- I am not bothered about. Still I like this carbon board, its really well spec'd but everything is so expensive now, you will always get better deals on stuff thats last generation. How are you finding the asrock bios? been a while since I had an asrock board, but they seem pretty solid now after a few years of missing the mark

[@lingamayayamaplaku8379]

Thats a stunning looking subtle under the radar board

[@JonathanPilson-mu3rg]

That is a great looking board tbf !

[@Zubie2000]

If the new 870e board is an 8-layer PCB, and the older 670e board was only a 6-layer PCB, the extra layers in the new board may have allowed better performance from the 8000 MT/s RAM. My understanding is that the traces would be better isolated from noise in an 8-layer arrangement.

[@futer994]

Both are 8 layer.

[@lolly_bread]

I saw the charts too. What "better performance" are you referring to?

[@trecondo7393]

The MSI X870E Carbon Motherboard has a great thermal design. Due to the heavy flight simulation loads, the intelligent fan control reassures me that the motherboard will provide optimal cooling. Thermal throttling has not been an issue. The overall quality of the build is impressive.

[@mauriciob8260]

Hi ,Leo could you please review the Asrock Gaming X870E Nova, cost just 345.00 US and have almost the same layout and connection features that the Asus Hero X870E have

[@svingarm9283]

sad to see my 5600x at the very bottom of the list 12:30. I think my PC is fast enough and can do everything it needs, but maybe it needs an update but that motherboard costs almost 600$ here. And a 9950x costs $850 and $270 for ram so $1720 for an upgrade that's just over the top hehe

[@RobertoMöri-l4j]

could you make a video for setting the BIOS Settings for the First time after building a new Gaming PC ?

[@Drebin2293]

I picked up the X670E carbon wifi on sale last year for 400usd. I'm mostly happy with it. I'm not happy with the PCIE slot spacing though. The ACE has better slot spacing.

[@lastexile6924]

Hope to see mag 870 tomahawk review soon

[@GizOfWar]

i read somewhere that if you use all 4 m.2 it will lower the pcie gen x16 to a x8 or did i hear wrong 😅

[@dreschaffhausen5693]

Good point about the buttons being too close together. Should have put one at the top, one at the back and one at the bottom.

[@imtiyajYouTube]

power delivery seems very good but excessive for what its meant to be partnering with ?

[@philipjfry628]

It's not cheap but its feature set is pretty decent it's got basically everything you need to be the basis of a really nice build. Can we see what the fuss is about the Godlike board please?

[@TheOneGhost12]

I don’t see anywhere which usb ports have dedicated lanes that go directly to cpu and which usb ports go to the chipset ???

[@shaitanMetin2]

Does the problem of not using 4x RAM slot still persist?

[@Ale_K.]

Hello what problems?

[@shaitanMetin2]

@@Ale_K. When using 4x ram, there is a load on the processor.

[@MajinOthinus]

That is a problem inherent to DDR5 and the memory controllers on the CPUs. You can run 4xRAM if they are single rank modules and you don't need anything beyond 6000 (or 6400 if you're really lucky) by manually OCing the RAM.

[@shaitanMetin2]

@@MajinOthinus If I'm lucky, I won't lose any performance when I install 4 modules, right?

[@MajinOthinus]

@@shaitanMetin2 If you follow the specifications I outlined above, you can make it work. That said, you WILL almost always lose out on performance when compared to an equivalent setup using two dual rank DIMMs. Two DIMMs is just superior to four DIMMs for DDR5. All else being equal, you can get higher clocks and tighter timings while using less voltage on two DIMM setups. Most of the time it will also be cheaper.

[@TheDudesRug]

is the displayport through USB-4 feature useless if you use a dedicated GPU instead of an integrated iGPU? if not, how do you route your dedicated GPU to output the display through USB-4?

[@minadavi7931]

I think for the price and what you get its a pretty good deal overall

[@DizConnected]

The only issue I have with all the new X870E motherboard is lane sharing. They all seem to get 4 lanes of PCIe 5.0 for the M.2_1 but then almost all of them have a switch to split the lanes of the PCIe 5.0 x 16 GPU slot. Usually it's 1 PCIe 5.0 x16 at full speed or 2 PCIe 5.0 x8. The other layout is 1 PCIe 5.0 x16 or 1 PCIe 5.0 x8 and 2 PCIe 5.0 M.2 x4. The ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI is the only one I've found so far that has a dedicated PCIe 5.0 x 16 GPU slot with no switch and no lane sharing, meaning it gets x16 5.0 lanes all the time. The B850 motherboards might be better in this regard since they are not forced to use 4 lanes of PCIe 5.0 for the USB4.0 ports.

[@drewnewby]

@KitGuruTech I've yet to test X870, so a query. Does this AGESA 1202 allow 1:1 for DDR5-6400 CL32? For customers, I have tended to go with this over 6000 CL30 in the past on the off chance of it working 1:1, however rare that might be. It's often priced the same regardless.

[@KitGuruTech]

That is pretty much the point of AGESA 1202 - no more valley of death with faster memory Leo

[@drewnewby]

Thank you Leo, agreed. I look forward to testing how far the AGESA 1202 will allow. 1:1 6400 or beyond would be nice for all the boards updated, down to B650 even. Should give Ryzen 9000 a bit more appeal for customers.

[@ASSISTENZAINFORMATICA-f6y]

Abd which are the differences between this motherboard and the taichi lite?

[@Hullbreachdetected]

I decided to get this mobo, it's the only x870e mobo (except for Godlike, which is 3x the price) that will allow me to run PCIE gen 5 slot 1 at x16 lane bandwitdh whilst runing at least 4 M.2 slots at gen 4 x4 bandwith. Another massive factor for me is CUDIMM support, since MSI is the only brand that comfirmed future support for CUDIMM on their X870e boards. This USB4 CPU lane sharing situation seriously sucks with the x870 boards, but it is what it is.

[@Grinella399]

You should enable write caching on the USB 4 drive/device then run a benchmark.

[@damjanforjanic]

Basically Msi x870e, set to 75w, Ryzen 7950x, underclocking the processor from 229w to 192w, the result of 75 degrees is very good.

[@Level_Up_Nation]

So, just getting the MSI X670E GAMING PLUS, will be still on par with these

[@dwain.d]

I love this board. Its price in AUD is ridiculous but I think I'm going to do something stupid and get it anyway.

[@charlesYoungbae]

2:38 "whether you like the black and white contrast IS not the point in this case" the fact that he has to say out this line is damn hilarious 😂😂😂

[@maideo]

I'm thinking of getting this one or the Taichi or PG Nova from Asrock. 🤔

[@GapsExist]

I have this motherboard and it is paired with the 9950X. However, I have the exact same dreaded USB issues that the X570 platform had some 3 years ago where any USB3.0 or newer protocol device plugged into either front panel or rear panel USB A ports constantly disconnects rendering them and throw up connection failures and errors in Windows, reporting “Unknown USB Device” in Device Manager.

[@iain8837]

Is there some sort of GPU bracket or attachment to take up the weight? Or it's not needed?

[@Games_and_Tech]

Did they fix the killing Nmve ssd feature they have on the x670 carbon? And the customer service?

[@datsweetsansabooty]

Can you explain this? Is it a specific slot that’s being killed? And how?

[@Games_and_Tech]

@@datsweetsansabooty the first slot, it killed 2 different ssd Nmve in my case, then when I searched I found other people having the same issue, even another guy posted it happened 10 times in a microcenter review. For sure MSI didn't recognize the issue, because they are dirty as F...

[@Fk8td]

Why is that 14900k score so low. I got 38500 on standard power limits. Also 40300 on oc and it’s 1.42 volt limit. I was using drr5 6000.

[@IndigoSun-hz6cq]

Taichi 870e and PG Nova 870 both have 5x M.2 slots exclusive of the GPU lanes.. zero lane sharing, zero! Both have thermal-link backplates, Taichi is sub £450 and the Nova is sub £350.

[@l3xforever]

Taichi also has zero pcie slots from the chipset for expansion cards

[@IndigoSun-hz6cq]

@@l3xforever Wrong. Diagrams easily available.

[@l3xforever]

@@IndigoSun-hz6cq yeah, and maybe you should look at them, and all the other reviews 😹. It literally only has two slots from the cpu running in 16x/0 or in 8x/8x configuration 😹

[@Hullbreachdetected]

you for got to mention 3 out of 5 M.2 slots are only gen 3...

[@ClydapusGotwald]

What is the bottom power port for on the mobo? Is it necessary to plug in a cable to it?

[@goblinphreak2132]

My first Ryzen motherboard was the x370 gaming pro carbon from MSI. and it was AMAZING. And then a generation later with x470, all the youtubers (gamers nexus, hardware unboxed) started going over VRM design, and claimed "the x370 gaming pro carbon from MSI has THE WORST VRM design of all motherboards and can't overclock" and i just, facepalmed. Because I had been running the x370 GPC with my 1800x, at 4.2ghz at 1.5v.... which everyone said "was not possible" because "you can't get more than 4ghz".... and yet, I did it, with "the worst VRM design of any motherboard on the market".... which I can't help but laugh, because at the time a lot of youtubers were being paid by motherboard makers as sponsors. And you could watch WHO was sponsoring them each generation. When MSI sponsored everyone first generation, no one said ANY bad shit about MSI. X470 generation it was ASROCK and x570 it was Gigabyte. And you could see that sponsorship effecting video quality. MSI wasn't "trash" until the sponsorships ended.... which, what? why was it fine when it was new, but bad when x470 came out? why would you buy a budget x370 board when the budget x470 board was better at the same price new vs new? like lmao. In my own experience, MSI makes THE BEST motherboard on the market, period. Its just facts. The highest world record for CPU and Memory overclocking are all on MSI. Someone might bring up EVGA motherboards.... 1-limited availability because even when they were actually making boards, it was in extremely low numbers (niche) and 2-they dont exist anymore in terms of gpu/motherboard.... so lmao. the king is MSI.

[@lolly_bread]

I think you make sound points there. As a consumer it's already hard enough trying to discern fact from hype when comparing products, and this gets way muddier when you just know intuitively that the "reviewer" has some sort of bias built in - usually incentive based. Not wishing to offend, but I'm suspicious even in this video where the reviewer states several times how the 8000 ram is loved by the MSI (full name requoted each time) board, when clearly the stats on the screen show no appreciable benefit over the 6000. So yeh we really have to practice discernment.

[@tubui1180]

Let's say i use all the M2 ports, how many PCI_E lanes will be left? will it still work as x8/x4/x4 or will it be x8/x4/x0? i have a need to use additional capture card and 10gb 2 lan PCI_E.

[@Chicken-o5e]

Hardware unboxed just tested most new boards and surprisingly half of them cannot even boot or stress test at 8000. Even some higher end ones like the taichi and nova.. do u think this will be fixed with bios updates or is 8000 a marketing scam??

[@Terry-cw9ty]

Awesome video I'm currently using a X670E Taichi I had to get after watching that review from a year ago, what I'd like to see is a new updated side by side comparison chart of a 7950x3d in the X670E & X870E running the same game with the new game optimizations. Are those figures available or will they be? It'd be interesting to see the differences between the 2 with the ram clocks being different.

[@Terry-cw9ty]

Maybe even a DDR5 6000 to 8000 swap in the X870E would be a good comparison too .

[@KitGuruTech]

I will certainly re-test 7950X3D on X870E when we get the new Ryzen 9 3D CPUs but I won't back-to-back with X670E Leo

[@PCPro2017]

Also, are we expecting great memory performce with the new X3D chips?

[@vinland98trance]

Good review as always Leo, thanks again. But the price is too steep, I am keeping my X650E

[@iamahappybunny7640]

ohhhhh. MSI. I was hoping to see the high end ASUS board first but this is sexy

[@Praireboy-hg8ip]

The £700 board ? You got some deep pockets man 😂😮

[@Penfolduk001]

​@Praireboy-hg8ip Hey, they're never going to be able to afford one themselves, but quite a lot of people like seeing Ferraris and Lambourginis being reviewed on car programmes. It's nice to see the "luxury" end of the market. 🙂😅

[@Bellestronsse]

@@Praireboy-hg8ip 700 quid for a desktop board is ridiculous

[@dreschaffhausen5693]

I have a soft spot for MSI.

[@jasonhenninger8220]

Feel a bit cheated. X670e was x16/x0 or x8/x8. X870e is x16/x0 or x8/x4. X870e also notes PCI_E1 & PCI_E2 & M.2_2 share the bandwidth Also, would be interested in seeing results of 6400 C32 memory on these charts.

[@KitGuruTech]

You raise an interesting point. Assuming no-one is using dual graphics cards these days, what use do you have for PCIe beyond M.2 storage? Leo

[@Linuxdistro15-ih8ox]

yeah its a bit bad sharing the b andwidth

[@TheMB1205]

@@KitGuruTech That second pcie slot by 8 on 670E variant could house 2 more nvme ssd with help of pcie add-in card and on that platform you could have up to 7 nvme ssd running simultaneously,but this isn't case for X870E you could loose 1 or 2 nvme ssd depending on sharing lanes

[@KitGuruTech]

@@TheMB1205 Theoretically, but at that point how many SSDs do you use? If that is your thing, check out Apex Storage www.apexstoragedesign.com/ Leo

[@minhtthach7754]

@@Linuxdistro15-ih8ox Asrock boards don't have pcie lane tunneling. they're always x16

[@peter-kj7hc]

What about lane sharing?

[@MajinOthinus]

Just like all the other X870E and X870 boards. The second M.2 slot steals from the GPU. The USB4 requirement was such an idiotic decision. If you are looking for a board, do yourself a favor and get an X670E board without lane sharing.

[@peter-kj7hc]

@MajinOthinus or just buy an ASRock board. They dont share .... the Nova seems pretty nasty

[@MajinOthinus]

@@peter-kj7hc They still waste PCIe 5.0 lanes. I paid for 24 PCIe 5.0 lanes and I will use them.

[@starcitizen6651]

Going to get the MSI Tomahawk myself in a couple weeks. These things are getting expensive

[@TheSjuris]

The x870 is the same as a b650e.

[@starcitizen6651]

@@TheSjuris b650e don't have PCIe 5, and i have a really fast m.2 drive.

[@TheSjuris]

@@starcitizen6651 then buy a x670. The x870 is a ripoff board. It’s actually a downgraded x670.

[@starcitizen6651]

@@TheSjuris b650e Doesn't have PCIe 5 and I have a fast m.2 drive for 5

[@aspyde]

No Ddr ECC support for this x870e carbon. Seriously?

[@steves3116]

Where are the mATX options and seems like these boards are being price inflated without many new features

[@sano0311]

I like that GPU PCI express release button.

[@user-eq2fp6jw4g]

Why there are not gaming test with r7 7800x3d and x870e ? Is this due to some amd guidelines. I mean people who are buying these are probably more than interested to see the performance also with x3d processors (as gamers). This is due the prices of x670e motherboards haven't really dropped anywhere and if you example are going to buy the motherboard for gaming you probably have or want to have something with x3d processor in it.

[@Warhorse469]

Because there are zero performance gains between the X670 and X870 motherboards they might do one when the 9800X3D comes out but the benchmarks will be based on the CPU, not the Motherboards

[@biglipsadboi5475]

What would best ram kit to go with this motherboard to really go for the full potential?

[@ASSISTENZAINFORMATICA-f6y]

Which is the best x870e motherboard for a budget of €460?

[@dahod_ka_king_007]

Any updates on the new gen of X3D ? when are they coming out

[@manolisxristidis4419]

I have a question if i pair this motherboard with the 7 7800X3D i need ram with 6000 mhz or more ?and what if the cpu can't handle the more mghz or the motherboard the lower mghz speeds; i have rtx4080 super on 2k monitor and i want to upgrade soon

[@JayP-vh9wc]

Thanks, is there a way to avoid lane sharing issues with this board? Like not using certain slots at the same time as others? I don't fully understand it. Thanks

[@sushmamandal1629]

A lot of money, but if you want a high end board and arent willing to sell your car for a godlike - its a good deal. I wonder how this compares to the ACE - next level up from this one

[@TheSjuris]

No ace and the godlike is $700

[@xthene]

is the heat sink provided good enough for pcie 5.0 m2 ssd? most pcie 5.0 m2 ssd come with their own heat sinks which ... apparently stands in the way of the M.2 Shield Frozr.

[@KitGuruTech]

I used a Crucial T700 with the MSI cooler throughout my testing and had no problems. Leo

[@zoltankormoczi9072]

I would buy the board but how can I connect my old genius 5.1 sound system with the 3 x 3,5 audio jack??? Anyone any idea?

[@SlickVicious84]

Sound cards

[@zoltankormoczi9072]

@@SlickVicious84 I don't want to buy sound card when I buy a board with 7 channel audio for 500usd -_-

[@jamexman]

Does it have eclock Gen? Or are they hiding that feature behind the Godlike paywall?

[@outlet6989]

I like the higher price for the new MB features. However, it does not offer a significant performance gain for the price. Plus, you'll need to determine the cost of new MB components to get full performance. I would not change my INTEL PC to move to AMD.

[@thefoulslinger3751]

Anyone else have gotten a constant error 08 on this motherboard? Tried everything it seems to work fine but it’s “cpu optimization” as the error is called. 1. Done CMOs reset 2. Changed out RAM sticks 3. Updated BIOS (only one left is beta) 4 Reseated CPU Running 7950X3D with 32gb of Corsair vengeance and an NZXT cooler.

[@eevd350z]

You may have gotten a dud like I did. Just different situations

[@friedmule5403]

3:40 The price may in fact be less exactly because they chose those "overkill" components. What is expensive is not so much their power ratings but the quality of the components. You can save money by getting a lower quality but more "overkill" and not lose the reliability.

[@dominikchyt1159]

Hi, Can you help me with to pick the best one future wise? I am building new pc and I don't know which motherboard should I take: MSI x870e carbon or asrock x870e taichi? I got R7 7 7800x3d for cpu and I am planning to get rtx 5080 once is released. MSI is atx 3.1 and pci 5.1 compatible, asrock not . Thanks for advice

[@Umbator]

Have grabbed this board, I am still currently on a X370 board with a 2700X, now if only I could get a 9800X3D, everywhere here not likely to get stock until either just before Christmas or early next year :(

[@yomofoindahouse]

eclk?

[@SubhashSonawane-nh4st]

Reasonable price, mid to high end, loaded with everything - makes the ACE and Godlike seem excessive as it has everything most people would need

[@Elimunary]

Thank you for the video. There is still one aspect that interests me and that is 4 dimm support, last gen gigabyte x670e Auorus Master can run 4x24 @ 6400 with minor tweaking, can this board at least match it ? Kinda in a market for new boards and wondering if $100 extra over giga master is worth it.

[@jaypalrathor4251]

128GB/s max bandwidth is that the same as the 670E?

[@Simplyswish-xx6wr]

Its a decent board - nice featureset, looks good, they put effort into the ports and layout - but its not really a huge upgrade from the last gen unless you specifically need DDR5 8000 and or USB 4

[@pixelrefresh348]

USB4 might make it worth getting those specs are amazing.

[@TheSjuris]

@@pixelrefresh348 not over a x670e board with usb4.

[@AjitKumar-bh8gk]

Awesome board, thanks Leo

[@QuentinStephens]

Is that two full PCIe v5 x16 slots or do they become x8/x8 if both are used? And a slightly odd question: does the BIOS support keyboards through USB hubs?

[@KitGuruTech]

The second slot is x4, presumably to keep the graphics constantly happy. I haven't even thought about a USB hub for a desktop PC is many, many years. This board has heaps of USB-C and all the Type-A you could wish for. Leo

[@QuentinStephens]

@@KitGuruTech The question about using a hub arises because my PC is in a cupboard in the corner and my keyboard goes via a hub to the PC. Going direct would require an extender cable.

[@SahajPS]

BIOS looks much much better now