Project Eyemageddon - Pat McGrath Labs Palette declutter | Part 2

[@KitschSnitch]

Come back tomorrow to see how I went with my custom palettes! xo

[@caviable]

I agree with you 💯. I was able to depot the 6 pan ones (I needed to use heat) but the 10 pan one what I had to do was repress them. I scooped them out and repressed into pans. But just the “special” ones.

[@cosmegal3132]

Can't wait for tomorrow's video!! How do Pat's special shadows compare to Nars glitter shadows? I love Nars formula and their glitter shadows are gorgeous and find them relatively easy to use.

[@alliauyeung3004]

The special shades are sometimes waffle bottom pans so need to pot them in new pans. Good luck!

[@heyitsnae9555]

Ill be here with bells on!

[@TheMissBeki]

hype !

[@emuxkr]

I totally agree with your observation about designer handbag. If you don't like the shadow, you shouldn't force yourself to use it. In my university chemistry course we had lessons of ingredients in everyday consumer products and what does what. For 3 years we did experiments with everything we could get a hold of (makeup, skincare, haircare) and put those things through every machine we had access to. What we learned is that higher price about 40 percent of a time means lesser quality. The most drastic thing was a comparison between 300 Euro face cream and 3€ Lidl dupe. Almost all ingredients were the same, but Lidl cream ingredients were more active I think. Some of our class used for 3 months both (half face for each cream) and in all comparison photos a cheap cream won (everyone saw visible improvement).

[@KitschSnitch]

Wow that's really interesting!

[@enni_p]

I have heard so many people rave about that Lidl cream!

[@emuxkr]

@@enni_p Most of that line are dupes. We tested several products and it was years ago. Their line changed and expanded.

[@soniasobaro9127]

Incredible... now I am thinking in so many brands like La Prairie vs Nivea (both owned by Beiersdorf) A friend of mine works for La Prairie, so I could test some creams and well..... they smell like Nivea and on me these performed not better than any cheap cream.

[@friendlyneighbourhoodschokiman]

Which Lidl cream was it? 🙈

[@lulianaxx]

I've gone through 2 bronze seduction palettes in my kit! That's the thing about makeup, it's subjective and what works for one person may not work for another. I do love them but it's reasonable for not everyone else to.

[@zaria5785]

I applaud your courage to deconstruct those PM pallets and make them more suitable to your personal style. 🙌🏼

[@KelMindelan457]

If I want a special shade - I opt to pick them up as singles from indie brands like Clionadh as well! Better quality and selection.

[@ddrox919]

Me too! I have two PMG palettes and honestly if I'm looking for special shades I wouldn't consider grabbing the palettes at all, I'd go for my indie shadows. But if I need a look that I know will just be pretty (not taking too many risks!) I use my PMG palettes and use the non-special shimmer shades. The only time I use the special shades is for an inner corner or maybe a topper if I've accepted that I'll spend 5 minutes trying to clean up the fallout afterwards haha

[@mesakoko]

Agree! Even if you find Clionadh singles expensive (especially the multichromes), there are many companies that do lovely sparkly shades, duochromes, and ultra shiny metallics.

[@suhseal]

People can’t disassociate the marketing hype and luxury packaging from the quality of the formula. I find it’s the same when people talk about restaurants. People conflate astounding decor and meticulously designed environments with good food. I absolutely appreciate beautiful interiors. But food is food. Same with packaging. I’m a designer and LOVE beautiful packaging. But the formula is judged for its performance, not for the product experience. Humans are weird man. I love how honest your reviews are. You’re consummately so pragmatic and authentic in your analysis

[@balletlau]

Interesting viewpoint. Personally, I don't know anything about the marketing hype and the packaging doesn't really do it for me, but I do enjoy the formula of Pat McGrath shadows. Where I differ from many is that her "special shades" are not actually my favourite - I like her metallics, mattes and regular sparkles. I don't have any of her earlier releases though so it is possible the formula is better in more recent releases than earlier ones. Regardless, they probably aren't worth the price but I enjoy using the ones I have.

[@jaycreswell7008]

I HATE the PM packaging. I can't open the lid far enough to let light onto the pans or actually make any use of the mirror whatsoever, it feels like the lid is going to break at the hinge and the laquered black, fingerprints, such that it constantly looks dirty. It doesn't feel lux to me, just poorly designed. But I'm in a little minority on this and if you love it or even like it, that's cool too.

[@suhseal]

@@balletlau I have 2 of her mothership palettes and they’re both … ehhh to me. I also have maybe 6 of her six pans and there are consistency problems with some formulas being absolutely lovely and some having poor pigment, patchiness or blending into muddy nothing. But I actually do enjoy both her celestial divinity and odyssey palettes. All the shades in those are a joy. Across the board with ALL of her palettes I have the same complaint: not enough mattes (like give us some dang transition shades to go with those beautiful shimmer!). So I often drag out my viseart or Natasha mattes to pair with pat’s palettes. And Kat is dead on. I don’t really like pat’s special shades either! They’re so gritty and she even had to come out with that primer pen stick thing in order to make them adhere properly. For $129 palette, you’d expect it to work without extra tricks. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I have the huetopia which I believe is her latest mothership and it still has that gritty tons of glitter fall-out issue. Though I do think her mattes are getting better. Why do I keep buying them??? 🤦🏻‍♀️ I’m working on correcting that collector mentality

[@suhseal]

@@jaycreswell7008 I agree on some level. It’s too much and not my aesthetic either. In the end besides the metal plate it still feels like plastic. I wonder if it’s the generous mirror inside that gives it heft. I tend to like the aesthetics of Charlotte Tulbury, Lilah B, or Victoria Beckham beauty for their packaging aesthetics more. And the slim leather like beautiful packaging adept cosmetics has adopted is quite pleasing too. And not on the luxury side of packaging, but whomever the graphic designer/illustrator is on kaleidos’ team needs to be given some serious awards. It’s by far the most creative and whimsically balanced aesthetic I’ve seen yet in the makeup world.

[@realtalk13]

I think the hype for her palettes come from people used to mainstream brands being wowed by more textured/foiled shimmers and multichrome shades. Say what you will but PML was one of the first major brands to bring shades like that to the mainstream. Only issue is that indie brands have been cranking out shades like that with better formulas for even longer without charging an arm and leg for them.

[@myaemmajade]

Yeah it really feels like indie shadows in a department store

[@Cara-39]

I agree with this and I think the crazy price for a 10 pan palette also plays a part. The "expensive equals better quality" notion is pervasive and when the brand first launched, with the Mothership I, II & III palettes for $125 USD each, which was almost unheard of outside the also recently launched Natasha Denona palettes, with really artful packaging, from a well known and highly respected fashion/editorial MUA, the beauty community went nuts and the hype surrounding these palettes went through the roof. From then on, it was like nobody dared to express an opinion that wasn't some form of "these are the best shadows ever made & worth every penny" and those that did, like Kat, were told they didn't know how to apply eyeshadow, they were wrong and/or they don't know what good quality is. The PMG hype borders on fetishism and I personally agree with Kat; I don't think the formula is worth it. The shadows in my Mothership Subliminal I palette are dry and lackluster and the "special shades" don't have the high shine, one swipe full opacity as claimed, they need to be built up a lot. I bought it during one of her 30% off sales and I still feel it's overpriced; it's my biggest makeup regret. My Sydney Grace, Devinah Cosmetics, Give Me Glow and JD Glow shadows are much better formulas and significantly less expensive. I just don't like the path the beauty community has taken over the last few years, where anyone that doesn't share the opinion of the masses is attacked and makeup is no longer subjective but something everyone must agree on. Sorry for the long rant; I think the PMG line is completely overrated.

[@han__nya]

@@Cara-39 I find that the indie community is also experiencing that with multichromes. I own quite a few of them from multiple brands, and was "attacked" because I once said that black based multichromes are overhyped and gimmicky. Not to mention overpriced. You can easily reach that PMG ridiculous price point if you buy a bunch of multichromes that are priced 17-20 dollars each. So imo this issue permeates every level, including the indie community. No eyeshadow is truly worth 20 dollars, just like no palette is worth 125 dollars. Brands have been cranking up prices and selling the dream that these shades are "unique" and worth their price, when in reality it's often pigment that is sourced in countries that use slave and or child labour.

[@Cara-39]

@@han__nya I own many indie singles from multiple brands and while I don't wear multichromes, I do know how expensive they are. Whether something is worth the cost or not is also subjective; I personally don't think PMG products are worth the price but I'm clearly in the minority! It's not just the beauty community, mob mentality has permeated every aspect of life and those with different, dissenting or minority opinions are dismissed and/or verbally attacked. I'm not talking about opinions that are hateful, racist, misogynistic, violent or conspiracy theories; we need to push back on those ideas and we need to go back to respecting facts and evidence.

[@heleneharrison416]

I can’t wait to see u depot those that ‘s going to be fun!!

[@lionesslux6816]

Well, I am pretty scared about that. :-S

[@domtresco3364]

I am here for holding ridiculously expensive colour powders to a high standard because the price is, really, unjustifiable.

[@KitschSnitch]

100% agree!

[@shinyhappypeople9043]

I love this video, I love your honesty and your opinions. You gave me a good laugh because I can see the PM Stan’s going bookers over this. You do you girl and you are doing it well. Frankly PMG the brand has never interested me, it just doesn’t fit in with the casual Australian lifestyle. I’m not out clubbing every night of the week and I just don’t need that European night life formal vibe, I also don’t need to spend that much money. Thank you for being so entertaining.

[@KitschSnitch]

Yeah I agree that it is more of a going out high effort type of look it creates, which is not my life, but I still think it could be soo much nicer in formula and application.

[@singlehandedbeauty3581]

I think this is the point really. No one should buy make up that doesn't suit their lifestyle, especially at this price. I love the few PM palettes I have (and genuinely enjoy the formula and application), but I live in Rome and I like a full beat and have no problem wearings a bit of glitter in the afternoon. Hype (and price) is the problem, not the product.

[@RainbxwColorz]

I'm always SO tempted by PMG, you're not the first person I've heard speak on the cons of the brand and I'm overall just pleased that I never bought anything, they're hella pricey even on sale. Loved this video!

[@Amy-gp7ek]

I literally needed this video! Been thinking about picking up a palette for a while now but even on sale prices I’m still finding it hard to justify spending 150 NZD+ on one singular eyeshadow palette 🙃

[@TracyD2]

A lot of indie brands are filled with special shades.

[@taneshahays9646]

Totally agree, I've got a certain expectation from eyeshadow and Pat's don't meet it. I can find all of these shades in a better formula from somewhere else.

[@KitschSnitch]

I think that sums up my position perfectly. I have expectations (and high expectations for expensive eyeshadows) and these just don't meet those expectations.

[@Chaotic_Pixie]

@@KitschSnitch If PMG ever comes to Ulta in the US and you can swatch PMG mattes right next to CP mattes in store... I feel like people simply won't buy PMG every again. CP is usually great quality for the price point... but that's the key phrase. Best of luck depotting! Can't wait to see it.

[@jaycreswell7008]

Same.

[@chrystar1]

I thought I was the only person completely unimpressed with PMG mothership palettes, both 6 & 10 pan palettes. I kept buying them (on sale) thinking it was just colors or my inexperience. The only palette I've got on with is the Venus in Fleurs, Voyeuristic Vixen. I love it. I'm going to see how you go with the depotting and make a decision to sell or follow suit.

[@balletlau]

Voyeuristic Vixen is absolutely gorgeous. I love that it doesn't have a useless yellow gold in it, like so many other PML quads and palettes have. I actually really like my PML quads almost more than the one mothership I own (although I do also love my Huetopian Dream).

[@emilyb3394]

I got the bronze seduction. Like the mattes and 'special' shades but the shimmers are terrible. And yes I used to get paid to put makeup on people.

[@Muslimah33]

I agree.

[@ainwena7595]

The price of these palettes has always been a deterrent, but every once in awhile I put one in the basket. After watching this, I no longer want to own them. Thank you!

[@D0B3RW0M4N]

I LOL’d at your comparison for the creepy eyelets

[@petra6902]

I love PM , i have the same ones you do plus divine rose VII (my fave). I love her whole style. I dont have oily eyelids and i use ud primer. And i am happy how it looks on the eyes, the way they blend and also when you press one shimmer and then another one, it creates a different shade. I like the glitter special shades the least, my fave are smooth eyesadhows, the glitter all over the face is just too annoying for the price. But i do appreciate your input as always, i watched the previous videos, and i agree on some stuff and on some i dont, goes to show that makeup is really so personal.

[@emptyd3pth]

I'm thankful I got one of her large palettes for free. I ordered two lipsticks from the PM site a few years ago when they were on sale for $10 each. The package arrived and I thought it was way too heavy for just two lipsticks. Alas, there was a Bronze Seduction palette hidden underneath all of that annoying black shredded paper! I was so excited, but then I used it and was so disappointed. I do use the special shades as toppers, but the mattes are so patchy on me. I would much rather reach for my Natasha Denona

[@RitwikaDeb]

Really appreciate the honesty with which you decoded the palettes. Most youtubers keep on raving a out these, and I never really understood the hype. Glad to see an honest fuss free revuew

[@illzalith8301]

I got into makeup 'officially' just a few weeks ago. Bought my first eyeshadow palette (Sashimi City from Kaleidos), and started looking at the Pat Mcgrath palettes when they went on sale a week or two ago. The main things that stopped me were A) I can't justify more than one and don't have the first clue of which one I would want, and B) If they are *the* best eyeshadows on the market then it's a dreadfully expensive habit to pick up. If the best version of something is unnatainable and I'll never have something as good ever again, would I really want to know? This now adds C) they're probably more overhyped than I had even considered.

[@HollyG6]

What you said about if the best of something is unattainable, what does that say and do I want to know, YES, THIS.

[@margarita131188]

Personally I really love her palettes. I have all of them and I use them everyday literally. That been said, I don't understand why people get offended because you don't like her palettes. It is personal taste and preference.

[@Cascadeis]

I don't have much time to watch youtube videos atm (this uni course is heavy - hopefully things calm down in April when the next starts instead!) but everytime I watch one I am struck with how gorgeous you look! Don't get me wrong, you've always been (and I have a tiny crush on your hair, mine is straight and blonde) but these past months you've been looking amazing! That haircut suits you so perfectly. :)

[@KitschSnitch]

Thank you! Best of luck with your uni course xo

[@TracyD2]

Good luck! You will get a reprieve soon enough. It’s funny so many people wish they had sleek blond hair.

[@carolynlindenmayer3577]

Its a great idea, I just couldn't bring myself to destroy the packaging of these. Thats probably why I thought long and hard about my first Mothership palette purchase. It had to be versatile and the one I thought I'd wear the most - Divine Rose, Mothership 7. I do agree that some Indie brand shadows are way more special than the Pat Mcgrath ones. Looking forward to the next one.

[@StephLyons]

I feel the exact same way you do. You're so brave to try depot them. I will live through you, I can't wait to see that video.🤗

[@ash-is-napping]

I completely agree with your opinion on PML - overpriced intentionally to make people believe their quality is superior to anyone else.

[@Yolanda8419]

I was waiting the entire day to lay down and watch the video peacefully. I loved it and I adore your look any mostly your lipstick. I remember the story about how you bought the palettes and hearing you talk about them and watching the swatches I was also fed up with them. The quality of most of the swatches looks horrendous.

[@frances4434]

Would love a deep dive into your Clionadh palette

[@wintersr78]

Im glad you said it. I feel the same way I thought it was me.

[@Fangta100]

Thanks for the honesty! Much appreciated in this designer oriented world 👏🏻

[@trinahughes1230]

I personally appreciate your honesty!

[@mrsamcnizzle]

Love the honest opinions and explanation of what you didn't like about them. I have 2 PML palettes and they aren't my favorite either. 💙💜

[@karencorban607]

I find your detailed analysis of these palettes really through provoking ......so much so that it has really made me stop and think about a planned purchase of another mothership.So thank you

[@emptyd3pth]

The mattes have always been patchy for me, and the shimmers always end up being muddy. I'm a sucker for a good deal though, so I somehow ended up with like 7 of her palettes and paid 50% or less for each. I'm finally doing a major declutter and mustering up the courage to depot some of these pat palettes 😮‍💨

[@BluePlastik]

I agree with your overall take on PMG eyeshadows. I have two of the palettes in this video, Mothership V and Sublime Bronze Ambition, and IMO they are just not worth the money. I don't use them very often because they're very fussy. The "special shades" in particular need a glitter primer IMO and still have quite a bit of fallout. The other shades are kind of hit or miss, some okay and some not. The rose gold in the Mothership V is what I'm keeping the whole 10-pan palette for, LOL.

[@jenniferflinchum9424]

I actually really like PML’s eyeshadow formulas, but I think you’re right about the palettes not being intended for makeup artists. I really wish that the pans were easily removable so I could mix shades from different palettes or put them in a magnetic palette. Can’t wait to see you depot them.

[@olilianasanchez5026]

I am so happy I found you.... I dislike Pat's formula too!

[@KitschSnitch]

I’m so glad there’s more of us out there 😆

[@buffysummers2904]

Ohhh I am excited to see the next video. I had the small pink packaging one of her palettes and sold it for like $20. It was so disappointing

[@JanaSiratranont]

Loving that lip color on you!

[@IamaDanish]

That lip colour though. 😍

[@mrsamcnizzle]

I would also rather spend $20 for 1 Clionadh "special shade" than $130 usd for a PML palette that has only 1 or two "special shades" that are actually any good. For that price I could get 7-10 or even more amazing shades from indie brands and the quality would be better than the best of the PML shades, atleast from what I have tried.

[@tanyavalli3010]

I just decluttered all of my PMG palettes too. I kept them in their boxes and that added to their bulk and inaccessibility. Too complicated to use and I never reached for them. I have one single of a shade I liked and bought as a backup (who needs backups!) but that’s it! Her lip liners are the only product I truly enjoy.

[@rabbiroz3806]

Love this Eyemaggedon Series, this video and the Urban Decay one. You could also group Indie Brands one month!

[@kat3325]

I have divine rose, and I find it very special everyday palette with interesting colour kick (pink/taupe rose colors). I love it a lot, very worthy purchase for me in regards that almost all of the shades there I can use as one and done with my skin colour (which is quite hard for me to find). I’m very satisfied with most shadows quality in there too, except baked glitter one. I bought PM wand thingy for it even, and it was still really wonky to use. I also like it being refined and having just enough colours with something special to use. That being said, I don’t particularly understand Color stories in most of the pallets. They are either too dark or too pink. So I dunno about usability of those, as they feel too much. Darker ones are probably good purchases for girls with deeper skin tone, but whom are all the pink ones are for 🤷‍♀️

[@roxannegabel3655]

It's funny, I see "Mother Pat" raved about everywhere. I have bought two PMG palettes, the last two years holiday palettes. I sold the 2021 palette for the exact issue you mention. The mattes are patchy and the shimmers don't adhere to the lid. I like the 2020 palette a lot more but I'm not sure I'll repurchase another PMG palette. I do like the blush trios though, especially the highlighter.

[@tiiti2003]

I’m super excited for the follow up

[@alonealien1474]

First, I totally agree with you on the Pat McGrath Labs Palettes AND how the fans react if someone doesn't appreciate them as they do. Second, I actually love the lip products from Pat McGrath Labs better than their eye or face ones, especially the Mattetrance formula. The colors are gorgeous and are also so good at covering up my pigmented lips! Imo, they are underrated.

[@emilycrowell4524]

I absolutely love PML large mothership palettes. I do agree the 6 pan ones aren’t that great because she doesn’t put her best formulas in those. Her quads are great too though. I do have to admit, the first time I bought a 10 pan mothership (divine rose I), I swatched it and was like wtf and returned it. Then I watched a lot of videos from people who know how to use the formulas with natural bristle brushes and I went and bought one again. Haven’t looked back since. Completely in love. It took me some practice. They are artistry formulas so they can be used all over the face. The shadow in the upper left hand corner can also be used as highlight all over the face and some of the 10 pan palettes with the pinks and peaches, mauves etc, those shadows also double as blushes. It truly is in using the correct brushes and correct techniques so I totally understand why some people just don’t fall in love because they can’t get the techniques down. And honestly, if you bought bronze seduction when it first came out…. It’s expired by now. So they won’t perform the best I’m sure after they are like 3-4 years old. Just like Huda, love some of hudas palettes but after a few years, they really do expire and don’t perform well. I’m super interested in seeing how the depotting goes!

[@taigahilliard619]

I totally agree about Pats shadows.

[@bellamorda9582]

Im coming for you!!!! Declutter what you don't like!!!!!! Thanks for sharing.

[@loriann5715]

I really appreciate your opinion. I myself only have 1 quad, it's ok, the shimmers have a thickness that is not my preference.

[@soniasobaro9127]

I received a 100 EUR sephora card for my birthday last year. I ran to my nearest sephora the following day determined to buy a mothership palette. When I swatched the shadows, I started to see them differently and at the end I bought a perfume. After having seen this video (and a couple more) I really do not regret it. It is fascinating what hype does in our weak minds..... :D Thanks for the video, so cool

[@justilou1]

Thank you for saving me the money… I have had a palette sitting in my cart for ages but can’t bring myself to pull the trigger. Pottering off to Clionadh

[@pecopicante4167]

Makeup a subjective but works for one person will not necessarily work for another. I personally love the formula but I can see some of its shortcomings in the earlier pallets. There's nothing wrong with your opinion and I respect that.

[@iamsaisai]

Thanks for the video. Love the way you explain how lack luster the palettes are. I think PMG palettes are not bad, they just don't worth the price anymore. Really looking forward to the depotting video!! The special shade seems don't have metal pan with it. I guess just need to use a spatula to pop it out. I use similar way to depot my Mac extra dimension eyeshadow. Pop it out and put the eyeshadow in a new pan. But it takes a lot of courage to stuck the spatula in lol.

[@heatherbaker3187]

I bought one of the 6 pan pallettes on sale, and all I could think about when I used it was that I could have bought a give me glow pallette that I had my eye on for the same price that I paid for the Pat McGrath, and probably liked it a lot better. I also hate that all of the promotional videos are heavily filtered. It's impossible to tell what they actually look like before you buy it.

[@mememelane7170]

AMEN!!! You are not the only one feeling that way. I also got so pissed off about the Mothership 3 palette that I destroyed it and only kept the special shades. You have to destroy the special shades and repress them. Works well and you get almost 3 x 26mm pans out of them. The Divine Rose II I sold because it made me so mad in total. That multichrome is shit compared to indie shadows. The Mothership 6 I kept in one piece since the colors work well for me. Even the mattes work a little better.

[@ByHerHand]

I really enjoy my 3 mothership palettes - the quad not so much. I do agree that the mattes get powdery and patchy with age. One of my fave eyeshadows in my entire collection is from Pat - Gigabyte. Having said that - if I had the $ and patience to replace them all with Clionadh shadows- I could not say no!

[@liaj8928]

I can't lie. I got sucked in by the glitter special shades, I love them and that's why I buy them. The rest of the palettes are too similar though. I have mothership 7, 8 and 9 right now, and they are set up the same way. It's different between cool and warm toned but they all have that first light shimmer shade, they all have a sparkly gold, the 3 mattes, the duo-chrome and the metallic reddish shade. Also I'm getting sick at pink-gold duochromes and you are saving me some serious 💲💲right now, thanks.

[@SelinaCat]

Good on you for not getting locked in!

[@liaj8928]

@@SelinaCat Thank you. I think watching the video I felt some validation for that little nagging doubt about the value of the palettes I had.

[@Muslimah33]

I really want a clionadh shadow.

[@MsAntigonaki]

Bronze seduction is the one I have, too… the only one - I think I prefer the Huda 9 pan palettes.

[@beautyunboxed530]

I love your honesty. I own a lot of Pat McGRATH, and I feel the more I delved into other brands, the more I realised how overhyped the palettes are. I still have an emotional attachment to some of them, but I definitely have to do a bug declutter and pass a few to friend who want to try them.

[@solangepolegar]

I only have the Bridgerton palette and one quad, I never plunged into the big ones because of the colour stories and the fact that the mattes look pretty muddy. A friend is decluttering Mothership I and I’ll have a go, but yes, from the little I’ve tried from the brand, they’re ok, but there are other brands that make the same and better. Funnily enough, I’ve bought some empty palettes and deporting tools and I’m going to start deporting most of my collection too 😅 a bit tired of keeping full palettes just for a couple of shades…

[@lisazel]

Omg same! Only own the Bridgerton one and a quad and they work so well. But I could never justify the bigger ones for just one or two shades

[@gretaacn]

Really looking forward to the depotting video!

[@marilenami]

I completely agree with you for the first 5 motherships. They are not so special for me either. But when I bought the divine rose II I fell in love with this palette. The 4 specials are gorgeous and the rest of the palette. The matte eyeshadow with the pink glitters and at the same time being duochrome is phenomenal for one and done eyeshadow. So I was thinking to pick up the last one mothership. Love you for your videos. You do great reviews. Love from Greece 😍😍😍❤️

[@neonhamster3977]

I only ever wanted the metallic/sparkle ones and managed to get the two little Eye Ecstasy palettes for £11 each. THAT was a price I was happy with for the formula!

[@noodlemaiden7619]

This is the way to do it

[@neonhamster3977]

@@noodlemaiden7619 I don't mind not liking all 10 shades at that price!

[@mapleleaf1956]

Looking forward to seeing how you got on with the depotting!

[@mburrito57939]

YES! The freaky eye button thingies! I hate those, gives me the heebies. Thank you, I feel vindicated 🤣

[@KitschSnitch]

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I can't unsee it! haha

[@balletlau]

I really enjoy my PML quads and Mothership IV Huetopian Dream but they are all more recent releases. Her matte formula is one of my favourites but it seems to be quite a different experience to the earlier palettes. I agree on the chunkiness of some of the special shades. I think PML, like Natasha Denona, can be quite overhyped. Each brand and formula has its flaws but with the price point those flaws can be hard to swallow. For me, though, the PML special shades are easier to access than Indie ones, so a carefully curated selection of PML is preferable price wise. Looking forward to the ND edition.

[@KitschSnitch]

I liked the mattes originally, but I think they dry out over time. Hopefully that doesn’t happen to the newer palettes, but I suspect that it might over time.

[@balletlau]

@@KitschSnitch let's hope I can get some good use out of them before that happens.

[@JanaSiratranont]

I am curious to try Pat McGrath palettes, however, everytime I think about how many palettes I could already buy for the price of one, it just always holds me back. Plus it's not like everyone will know that my eyeshadow is that expensive if I wore PMG 😂 I mean it's just hard to justify wearing it because at the end of the day, you'll wash them off and these products have limited shelf life too.

[@bartina2719]

I saw a few Pat McGrath palettes in store for the first time today and I was so underwhelmed after swatching 'special shades'! NOT spending €126 for that!

[@KitschSnitch]

Smart move, keep your money haha

[@ewamagdalena9633]

Same here! Was so excited to see this brand in store and after swatching the shades I was confused why people go crazy about them. I have better eyeshadows in my collection that were less expensive. I wanted PMG and would pay the price, but after seeing the quality - nah.

[@angelaportillo8038]

I came to this same realization in December 2021 abut PG palettes. To be fair, my eyeshadow preferences have changed. I am 42 now and I want a more toned down eye. Don't know what to do with my palettes as I am not sure if people buy gently used products.

[@sentimentaltrash]

Always super interesting to see your insights! So to semi echo your thoughts; you absolutely can do makeup, your insanely good at makeup and I don’t know who would suggest otherwise wth. 😂! I will say as an actual beginner PMG (also got 50% off cause I stacked discounts) has been really good for me cause…the special shades I can just stick my finger in and it’s done; I don’t know how to use glitter glue and I always forget to do my eyes first 😅. So honestly - whoever is saying youre an amateur at makeup, naaahhhh. The only reason why I love em is I can’t make anything else look that good 😅, I’m also not someone to try out different brands- when I was buying it I just wanted something that I knew was probably going to be good. Would love to hear your alternatives (especially for ease of use!!!)

[@mikichan6767]

I definitely got sucked into buying a PML palette (bronze seduction, seemed the most “me” out of most of the palettes I would use), but there was no way I would have dropped full price money, I got them super discounted from Costco (a wholesale warehouse) Of course was excited by name, packaging, hype, all that crap Haven’t used it once (only swatched and looked at, lol), and regret it

[@balletlau]

I know you have been put off PML but I think you would enjoy the bronze in the Voyeuristic Vixen quad immensely.

[@KitschSnitch]

It looks pretty but I will never buy another PML palette. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

[@balletlau]

@@KitschSnitch fair enough. You mentioned a while ago you were interested in a Charlotte Tilbury quad - did you eventually buy it? Interested on your thoughts on her formula too as you tend to enjoy similar formulas to me.

[@Lux_Maddox]

Totally agree with you ! It’s designer palette not professional ! It’s too heavy and big ,would take so much space in a professional kit ! I do hate the two last two motherships , I really hope one day decluttering it with whole “DR collection “ the disgusting fuchsia shades and the golds , I may keeping DR1 only from this collection ! I loved your idea of customise your own palette , can’t wait for the next video!

[@whitevine9544]

Indie is where it is at for the "special shades" and you can get exactly what you want too. That's why I love singles, you get what you want and not what is in a palette.

[@jaycreswell7008]

I frequently don't agree with you but on PM I am 100% with you. The mattes are very average, dry and patchy. The special shades are pretty to swatch but an absolute mess to use for a very aversge result compared to much better priced, more impressive "special" shades from any number of other brands. I am not a fan of Kaleidos either but I agree totally about PM.

[@GeeSmith333]

This is exactly why I still haven't gotten a PM palette. Even on sale I am not sure enough to buy. 🤷🏿‍♀️ I'm thinking Huetopian may be the one for me, maybe. I don't want regerts. 😩

[@CatherynR]

I’m fond of my three Pat palettes, but that’s in part because I know quick looks I can get from them that I like, and in part because I enjoy that luxury experience. Still, I think you’re right that they’re overpriced. I would never buy one full price! Anyway, you look gorgeous here!! Love the red lip. ❤️

[@brittanyschnell]

Subscribed!! I'd love to see part two

[@Lovesmakeup4772]

I got a mini shadow palette on Black Friday to try them out and I don’t like them at all! The shadows are too much, have lots of fall out and I haven’t used it once since getting it.

[@xxxaixo]

I laughed so hard! I cannot unsee the eyes in the meme image now! LOL. Thanks for the hunter review

[@nattymcfly3115]

This video makes me want to get that Clionadh palette! Can’t wait to see how you go getting the shadows out of those palettes 🤞

[@qimzel]

OK, now I know 100% for sure that we have a similar "taste" in eyeshadow! 😁 I've never understood the whole Pat hype.. I got sucked in and got a few of the quads, only on sale. Some of the shades I like, most of them aren't anything that special and flake all over my face.. And the mattes that are being praised for being so easy aren't that easy for me.. Thank you for your honesty!

[@michellej5616]

I got the Rose Gold 2 because of how hyped it was. I do like the pink-green multichrome. It's got a few fine shades, but several that I really don't like. So, yeah, I agree...it's fine, and I won't buy another. But I own five ND palettes.

[@wendyxkuma]

The special palettes are super easy to repan doing the cookie cutter method with another empty on top of it. I’ve done it for a few of her palettes

[@Josiemarie_Alaska]

I bought the divine rose & a quad, I’ve maybe used only a handful of times. I use my viseart & Tom Ford more often, too me it’s just too expensive of a purchase for something I’ll rarely think of.

[@Ieat2much]

Same I prefer my Viseart and Tom Ford . I love the Natasha Denona formula too is but for some reason they crease and disappear. My lids are soo problematic 🤬

[@arit2000]

I have only bought one PMG large palette. After trying one of the 6 pan one and sharing that I didn’t see the hype, people told me that it was because I hadn’t try the special shades. I bought Divine Rose II and still think it’s not worthy it ( I actually sold it). The 4 special shades were impactful on the pan, but didn’t translate as lovely on the eyes and the 6 normal ones, were lackluster.

[@gwendolyncampbell7932]

I enjoy my Pat Mcgrath liners and under eye powder more than the palettes oh and concealer! I use my Natasha Denona shadows more and even Colourpop. So you arent alone

[@DeannasWorld]

I'm looking forward to seeing how you go with the deporting. Such a shame that the shadows weren't up to standard. They are so hyped.

[@shumin9707]

Thank you so so much! I was thinking of getting some palettes from Pat Mcgrath Black Friday Sale. But you helped me change my mind. Love your honest reviews❤

[@danielleck9559]

Ugh. Thank you!! I thought I was the only one that thought PM eyeshadows were nothing special. I'm an idiot though cuz I keep buying more hoping I'll finally see what other people see. Love this series!! Can't wait for the next one! 😀

[@brianamoss997]

Thank you, I needed this! I so badly wanted to try pat McGrath, even after I tried multiple Natasha denona palettes and was incredibly disappointed in the supposed "amazing quality." 😒😓

[@balletlau]

I won't lie, I enjoy both my PML and ND palettes but I don't think either formula is quite as out-of-this-world as it is sometimes hyped to be.

[@MustaineIsGod]

Omg when Kat said the buckle things on the small palettes look like the eyes from that scary meme I died 💀 she's so right and now I can't unsee it

[@Sweetgotham]

If I recall correctly, the 'special' shades *aren't* actually in pans! They are in the pallet wells on their own.

[@KitschSnitch]

They are on a plastic mesh base, which is common for a baked or baked gelée formula :)

[@bentereekers9808]

Are you letting us see how you get them out then? I'm so curious how to do that.

[@KitschSnitch]

​@@bentereekers9808 Yep, that's what tomorrow's video is all about :)

[@becm963]

Now I don’t know what to do with this information. Michele Wang loves Subliminal and I am considering purchasing the first palette, at year end. Pat McGrath typically has a Black Friday sale. I wanted to buy it, then. I don’t have any Indy multi chrome singles. Those can be quite expensive, too.

[@KitschSnitch]

Just remember that this is just my one opinion, and so many people will disagree with it. Some people love these and it might work better with their skin chemistry and style, so you can only really try for yourself.

[@goldenllama]

I’d recommend trying some indie brands: Devinah, Clionadh, JD Glow and Kaleidos would be some recommendations. Sugar Drizzle and It’s Bel are also nice. I’d skip the Pat.

[@ftcmua]

Honestly, try JD Glow. They also have a sale around Black Friday. Also, base your purchases on reviews from people whose eyeshadow recommendations work out for you. Different people want different things from their eyeshadows. For me patchiness and fading/creasing are the deal breakers, for others it is lack of pigmentation or too much pigmentation.

[@becm963]

Thanks. I do have JD Glow on my wishlist. I just get so excited during Black Friday with all the sales. I forgot about them. I am trying to be more intentional with my spending this year.

[@freckledklutz]

I own two the sublime and the one from Christmas the celestial odyssey. I got both on a decent sale as I refused to pay full price. They are decent but not worth all the hype that they get! I will keep the ones I have but I would rather spend money on indie brands and other formulas which I know perform and are easier on my wallet! I love that you were unabashed in your dragging of the pat formula LOL.

[@SG11007]

On some level I do agree with your thoughts. Like for instance, the Sublime palette, I felt the same way, very underwhelmed by the color story. I like my midnight Sun, and divine rose palettes, and subliminal too but every palette has some pretty normal shades and even some of the special shades are not to my liking. I like sparkles but not the chunky kind, even with glitter glue. Just not my preference. But I never tried Cleonadh eye shadows before but from your swatches, I want to give it a try.

[@carolagrunenberg5751]

I am sooo glad to see this video! Thank you for your honest oppinion 🤍