Is Ida Davis Offensive? (Family Guy Video Essay)

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Okay to explain a little to people who go "family guy is offensive to everyone" that's true but usually the offensive jokes aren't "haha, this group of people existing is weird and gross!". Like, the jokes about, say, Jerome aren't that he's black and thus gross, it's that he's an exaggerated characature of a suave black man and the absurdity of that stereotype. Joe's jokes may come close, but his jokes are often about the difficulties of being disabled, not JUST that's he's disabled. A lot of jokes about Ida are "haha she's trans, thus gross" which is different. The joke about her fitting into her cheerleading uniform is better because that's "Wait she had that when she hadnt transitioned yet?" and isn't mocking her for being trans, it's just a bit absurd or out there. Hope this helped

[@AbigailHonestly]

I'm mentally disabled and that lends to physical too with what I have. I have conditions that make it hard to walk some times. I had an episode in a hospital earlier this year I was quite sure was a stroke but I couldn't stand and kept falling down and every time I tried to get up I would fall flat on the ground. I wanted to say it was mess but that ain't it. I have been on several medications because of depression, anxiety, Complex PTSD, suicidal tendency and other things. The charicaturization of Joe doesn't bother me any more than Timmy or Jimmy on South Park. I am not however going to compare FG to SP though one is lazy, and the other is sheer genius (yes, in that order, as FG has been incredibly lazy, especially lately). What bothers me is repeating the same joke over and over. It's not funny it's just at best mildly amusing at worst it's absolutely the most annoying thing in adult animation.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

@@AbigailHonestly that's an interesting perspective, thank you for sharing. I know the wishes of health might be... Not the best at this point, especially from a stranger but... Good luck in your life

[@johnark4723]

I think you're missing a massive amount of the jokes here. Other groups might not be made fun of for being gross, but Morts' entire personality is "jews are money grubbing nerds". Black people in general are made fun of for being gangster criminals. If you're going to bring up Joe, half his jokes are "I want to die" and "my wife hates me because I'm crippled". Not to mention that Asians have been portrayed as buck tooth and wearing rice hats multiple times. All these jokes are based solely on stereotypes and what some people think they are, and there's never been a moral about how the cast are wrong for thinking the way they do. The only difference is what the stereotype or misconception is. Plus, family guy has done more to go against those ideas than any other group.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

@@johnark4723 but those jokes are not about the groups themselves just... EXISTING. that's different than Ida. Disabled people *existing* isn't why Joe gets joked about. Jews *existing* isn't why Mort gets joked about. Many, many jokes about Ida are just "transperson= ew"

[@FireGlitch]

​@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231Literally every other group of people has been mocked in Family Guy. Why can't transgenders be mocked despite every other group receiving the same treatment? Seems like inequality to me.

[@camharkness]

My biggest issue isnt ida, shes fine. Its how seth McFarland handled it. How he legit got mad that not every single trans person loved ida.

[@seeleunit2000]

Exactly. That's the issue. Seth McFarlane has his head of his butt. Whenever it comes to depicting minorities he sucks at it. And he can't be bothered to just ever admit he screwed up.

[@aawallace98]

@@seeleunit2000 ya even as a die hard seth mc farlin fan i agree he has never done racial stuff well

[@chilljelloton2089]

Honestly she's (especially with her newer character development) a strong and well written take on trans-elders from her generation-its always been hard to get too because of how transphobic the show was in regards to "joking" about her. The "yeah gay bit" comes from the fact that if I'm estimating correctly (quagmire is like 60 or something) around when Ida was a kid doctors refused to acknowledge the differences between trans and gay people and refused to let anyone who wouldn't be assumed to become a *perfect* heterosexual actually transition with many trans people having to lie about their sexuality to get both hormones and surgery if they were even able too. Like, just a historical fact about where that transphobic "logic" comes from. As one of the younger trans adults (mid 20s) I think it's safe to say that shes not good representation of what the transition experience is for my age group but that's because shes what every trans elder, even the ones that o strongly disagree with, is to me. A kind of reminder that no matter what we can transition and live through the pain if we support eachother enough. Oh, also because they gloss over it the physical bits and just have her have every surgery possible at once. I more mean social and familial pressures. Honestly, if the actual humour wasn't so lacking in the jokes made at her expense I'd probably feel a lot better every time I get sort of soft about what characters like Ida represent to me. Always make me think about fighting for the next generation even if I doubt Seth had that in mind.

[@smuglytherat]

You should've seen how mad Seth got over the Simpsons crew calling Family Guy a clone

[@Fintybaibai420]

​@@seeleunit2000the way there are more diverse skintones for the white people in the show but every asian, black, and latino person shares the same skin tone

[@PyxeledGenesis]

I'm trans and ironically share a last name with her. Her existence isn't offensive, but the fact she's never respected is. From the constant jokes and othering, to the fact she's still called "dad" or referred to as a man. While some trans (and some cis) people are ok with terms that dont match their gender, I dont think we are at a point where we can create a character like that without sending the wrong message. I wish Ida's transition was respected more, especially considering she's nice to a fault, she's basically a Meg 2 to pull out whenever they want a queer punching bag

[@YurinanAcquiline]

I agree with everything here.. Except I feel that Quagmire should still be able to call her dad.

[@PyxeledGenesis]

@@YurinanAcquiline I never said he shouldn't, Ida doesn't seem unhappy being called a dad but like I said, it can send the wrong message since most trans people aren't okay with stuff similar to that

[@unripetheberrby6283]

I mean if that's how they'd want to be, it should be ok and we'd get to understand that between them. Subtlety ^^ Yes it wouldn't be bad for them to still make it clear how it can be different for other's situations :( though, if the conversation came from them when just beforehand they didn't have the issue, do you think it would sound strange like, "coming out of the writer's mouth" and not "the characters"? Therefore "preachy"? 🤔

[@PyxeledGenesis]

@@unripetheberrby6283 It really shouldn't be hard for a famous animated show to write meaningful, realistic dialouge about a trans woman coming out to her son and them conflicting about it. It's a hard topic to cover without making at least one side upset, which is why I assume they had such a bare bones take on it, but they spend way too long trying not to make her a dimensional character imo

[@yanderefangirl8317]

I’ve read that parents who transition still allow their kids to call them ‘Mom’ and ‘Dad’, because that’s what their children have called them their whole lives and their children still treat their transitioned parent as the gender they are now. They just still call them either ‘Mom’ or ‘Dad’ but they’re allowed to and their transitioned parent isn’t offended by it.

[@viziroth]

Ida herself isn't that bad, but how everyone acts around her is absolutely awful

[@Rebelheart1985]

Looking at you Lois. Girl really tried to act as if Ida was dirty or unsanitary-

[@user-nb8tk6hh6x]

That literally goes for all minority characters 🙄

[@zero7769]

agreed

[@Someone_Unknown90]

I’m sorry have y’all actually seen family guy like any of the earlier seasons

[@Friquido]

Transformers should be handeled with disgust. It's only natural

[@ashleylieberg5033]

I think the reason Ida didn't tell her son until the last second is because...she wasn't planning to tell him. In the past, especially in Ida's generation, it was common to go full stealth (primarily because of intense public disdain). By stealth, if you don't know, I mean that it was common to almost completely vanish and start over in a new life. This probably also explains her changing her last name--it'd make it harder to connect her to who she used to be.

[@0816M3RC]

That would have been pretty selfish of Ida.

[@jasonkeane133]

​@@0816M3RCI mean not exactly since most people of the older generation, if they came out as Transgender and even some today. They get assaulted and many are put into the hospital, it's reasonable she waited so long.

[@Adamant_Adam]

​@@0816M3RC Considering many trans people are victims of "honor killings," I'd say its more about self preservation...

[@micmen1496]

That's what I was thinking, too. The Naval Ball was like a "last hoorah" before transitioning. It also explains the phrasing that she uses, since that seems to be a common way how Transpeople described their existence. She's still thinking as someone in the "old days" did because that was the world she grew up in.

[@ashleylieberg5033]

@@0816M3RC I'm not saying it wouldn't be selfish. It absolutely would be. But, when that was the paradigm of trans experience she grew up learning, I have a hard time faulting her for it. Even now, people still get disowned or even killed when they come out or transition (yes, even here in the States). Sometimes it really does boil down to: selfish act VS continued suffering.

[@princessmarlena1359]

Ida isn’t a bad representation of trans people, but the way the show depicted and treated her was tacky, even for comedy. Also, it takes YEARS to fully transition. Psychological screening, hormone replacements, surgical procedures that need to be done in stages…it’s a lot of work.

[@servoaugusta513]

It’d be really cool if Ida actually met one of Glen’s kids or had interactions with her daughter or or her ex-wife or just have to deal with a problem that’s not exactly tied to her being trans.

[@Rebelheart1985]

It feels like a double edged sword. Yeah she’s shown to be an actual person who cares about her son but at the same time she’s also had WAY too many jokes at her expense….which would be fine if ALL of them weren’t “lol she’s transgender” Basically, she herself isn’t all that bad. It’s everyone else around her that’s the problem.

[@L1ncore]

Fr. I feel like if she was in a show like American Dad or something, the jokes at least would be varied. And even that show has a history of pretty similar transphobic jokes 🤷🏻‍♀️ they just dont make the same one 20x in one episode.

[@Stunningaura]

I liked that ida actually supported peter with his sexuality

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

Ida herself is honestly a pretty alright character. She’s one of the few recurring characters that doesn’t feel like a one note jerk or psychopath. She’s also got a lot of other stuff going for her outside the trans jokes like her previous military service and her pretty good relationship with her son. The problem is the way she was handled by the show and the other characters around her. With the show and everyone else making cheap and hurtful jokes at her transness. The most infamous example being her first episode and the infamous Brian puking scene. Tbh It’s pretty mind boggling looking back how Mcfarlyne and the rest of the writers thought it would be a good introduction for their first recurring trans character. It feels like they really should’ve consulted with some actual trans people or lgbtq organisations before and during the writing of this episode. I wouldn’t mind more Ida centric episodes and stories, but I hope the writers learn from their mistakes when handling her character.

[@FireGlitch]

Bro, most straight men would have a similar reaction if it turned out that they were having sex with a biological male. Hell, might even question their sexuality. Also, it's actually pretty rare to see an actual transgender in real life, so how would they even be talk to an actual trans people that isn't using the internet?

[@ms.honiqualisha4529]

Ida pretty much rapped him , buy not telling him she is trans. So when he puked he felt violated and he has the right to feel violated.

[@horrorbean1949]

I think my main take from ida was she definitely was a sailor at heart and a patriot when joes son came back and Brian tried to use her service as a excuse to Kevin’s awol actions to which she said the complete opposite and showed she was in the service heart and soul

[@robbyroba]

Sure, I think she is good representation, but the jokes at her expense are just...offensive. Almost insulting MacFarlane thought it was respectful.

[@brandonscott5544]

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[@emotrashgarbage2276]

There are a lot of lazy distasteful jokes which are far more distasteful than they need to be... I love family guys gay jokes, but they tend to be more tasteful than the lazy shiz they give Ida

[@yoboyajax5983]

I mean op does her best to cover topics that she doesn't fully understand the nuance of. You can't expect her to handle these topics at a high level of understanding

[@eagonwild]

I think I can definitely agree with Lily Simpson's video on the episode, saying that the vomit scene is possibly one of the worst moments in TV history (that relates to trans people)

[@jodifoster9820]

Trans women are offensive to real women but yall just look past it and ignore it so why is this a problem

[@ZutoMimi]

I am a transwoman, and I can say Ida is a very good representation (without much of the complexity bc it has to fit within a 24 minute time slot), but where it gets messy is with how literally everyone is in the episode. To quote the video emplemon did on a simpson character, "You put a normal person in a world where everyone else is crazy", that's what happens here. Ida is a cool cat but everyone else is disgusting.

[@NoahtheAIPlayer]

Aka, a man behind a woman disguised

[@anonimcz5381]

@@NoahtheAIPlayer ofc you support ai lol

[@NoahtheAIPlayer]

@@anonimcz5381 The point still stands

[@NoahtheAIPlayer]

@@anonimcz5381 besides, be better than AI, otherwise you're nothing

[@Froward_Thinker]

Ida raped Brian.

[@gustavedelior3683]

I'd say Ida herself isn't offensive, the key of the episode really seems to be how the characters react to it and it's quite realistic. I think Ida is more an archetype and her specific character isn't the focus, the focus is how people handle that which is different.

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

Isn't that kind of how Simpsons were? They were just stereotype archetypes of modern America

[@gustavedelior3683]

@@theanimeunderworld8338 yes in part but incidental to perspective and being relatable. Their best device is....well I can only describe it as best being "subtle with blunt force" and this is the Simpsons as a whole. Family guy here took a similar approach but made the plot second to how people interacted with the situation. A lot was ham fisted but I think that was the point, it showed just how far apart our perspectives and our sociality are (or were at the time of production).

[@jasonkeane133]

​@dankigenkiHonestly that depends on who you ask or if you're Gay yourself and you find it offensive. I'm not, but I have a lot of Gay friends that either act that way or actually just find it funny.

[@godisjihyo3615]

the thing is she became a recurring character after the episode, and is never given a fair plot line like any other character. she just pops up for another 'that guy shes dating doesnt know shes a man yet' joke

[@Cyburim]

​@dankigenkiHOT STUFF COMIN THROUGH!🎉

[@aligolden991]

The sentence “causing a lot of downstairs damage with his doggy dingle” is the best thing I’ve ever heard 😂😂

[@Shlaps]

Ida herself is fine, it's everyone around her that sucks. They're just cruel to her and she never responds by being cruel back. She's one of the best people in the show but she catches strays for no reason other than being trans. I just feel bad for her.

[@doritodorito492]

Ida's one of those characters that you just want to free from their source material

[@mayapilkey6805]

I'm transgender, Ida isn't offensive or transphobic and how she's treated is pretty accurate to how transgender people are treated. How the show treats Ida and the creators treats the character is extremely transphobic

[@NoahtheAIPlayer]

Go cry somewhere ❄️

[@nyxxic4550]

Trans people shouldn't be enabled by pharmaceutical companies trying to make money by giving them hormones and surgery and then doing all the mental gymnastics possible to justify it. What they need is cognitive behavioral therapy to treat their condition and confront why they feel this way instead of drugging and mutilating them which is just giving the gender dysphoria what it wants instead of treating it. It's like giving someone who has problems with alcohol more alcohol, or telling someone with anorexia not to eat.

[@AshIzDead]

Yess exactly im trans too thats what i thought

[@Froward_Thinker]

How is it transphobic when you literally just said Ida is a good character?

[@technicolorbarf6734]

​@Froward_Thinker What I believe they are trying to say is her character is a fairly accurate depiction of a trans woman, but the way the audience is supposed to find it funny when she is mocked and abused for no reason sucks. It's the same problem Meg's character suffers from.

[@luckybat7137]

The way people treat Ida is actually not that far off from real life. Imagine being treated like a *predator* and a *filthy animal* even though all you did was change your *appearance and name*. Meanwhile, people like *Herbert*, who honestly don't make any efforts to *hide* their intentions are treated simply as *a goofy old man who like to 'hang out' with kids*.

[@TheRealSparkplugTheFox]

I love Ida. She's reasonable, polite, rational and when she's asked to give her opinion she doesn't hold back.

[@NoahtheAIPlayer]

"he"

[@TheRealSparkplugTheFox]

@@NoahtheAIPlayer Nope

[@NoahtheAIPlayer]

@@TheRealSparkplugTheFox Yep

[@PizzaMadeMeFat]

@@NoahtheAIPlayer she you ahole Ida is a woman and nothing you say will change that

[@Gaby-fb7gh]

​@@NoahtheAIPlayer That's all you gathered from what you've read?

[@the-nina-beans88]

3:58 I know this doesn’t have anything to due with Ida but… Dose shaking a can of pennies hurt a dogs ears? Or spook them. Lois even tortured Brian with a vacuum. Heck if she really wanted to be sadistic and cause emotional physical pain to Brian she could have took him on a walk and lead him over to the church and let the loud bells ring.

[@mathieuleader8601]

wish they used Jasper more

[@alcremiecutie334]

OH SAME I LOVE THAT DOGGY

[@elliot6166]

Ida is an angel and I adore how she is portrayed. Everyone who is mean to Ida in the show is awful, and I hate that their jokes are shown as being okay and not blatant satire.

[@tjdj131]

What was crazy about ida transformation was she was able to have sex immediately without having to recover from surgery.

[@AutomaticDuck300]

Obviously they sped up the transition for the show. But yes.

[@the-nina-beans88]

13:14 You kinda forget that quagmire is in his 60’s and that would me Ida is in her 80’s or 90’s Yeah it’s weird when Glen looks mid 40s but he’s in his 60’s and people forget that from time to time

[@supaskiltz9877]

By far the best thing to come out of that throw up scene is the meme where they just cut out most of the words and it’s just “SEX” “WHAT” “SEX” “AHHHHHHH” I love that edit so much, literally the only good thing to come out of the episode and it’s only due to being taken in a new context lol

[@dynastylobster8957]

hi, trans woman here, to shed light on your question around 8:00 . see, gender dysphoria is connected to, but not entirely tied to body dysphoria. there are some people who feel comfortable by just expressing their gender socially. others may want a change of appearance to feel more comfortable with their self image. however, a small subsection of people (me included), are uncomfortable with the physical and/or hormonal properties of ourselves. "biochemical dysphoria" could be used to describe a need to change one's hormonal se* , and "bottom dysphoria" describes a dissatisfaction with the private parts one was born with. being trans isn't really one thing, but 3. our self perception, our outward projection, and, in some cases, our bodies.

[@dynastylobster8957]

to be more thorough with myse;f, i personally feel like the emotional effects of estrogen are something i need. because i have trouble crying, i feel apathetic many times, and struggle to understand where my emotions are coming from. i also feel dissatisfied with the way my body feels on testosterone.

[@SweetCrumblingDoll]

Ida isn't a bad character, it's what Family Guy does with / about / around her being trans. She is worth so much more than transphobic "jokes."

[@Gentlemenpickleesq.]

21:33 Larry the Cable Guy: "I don't care who you are that there is funny!" The comedic timing is great! And that comeback Brian gives Quagmire... EPIC!!! XDXDXD

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

12:46 I just figured she changed her last name to avoid association with her sexual predator of a son.

[@MsSetsuka]

I feel like Ida herself is a good trans character HOWEVER the way others around her and react to her are the offensive element. Brain specifically has become a transphobic mouthpiece, which is hilarious because of his earlier ally-ship for his cousin.

[@UltraVioletKnight]

it's pretty realistic for so-called open minded social progressives to have severe blind spots.

[@PyxeledGenesis]

Sadly a lot of people who aren't anti gay end up being anti trans, don't understand the logic there but it isnt unrealistic

[@Rebelheart1985]

Also later on apparently is just fine with the fact that she’s a transgender woman later on? Sorry Brian we didn’t too much forget about you throwing up the minute you found out she was transgender right before questioning if she should be put on a damn watchlist. Though pretty sure the show forgot.

[@EdnaK728]

Grell Sutcliffe from Black Butler is better trans representation than Ida,at least she isn't made the butt of nearly as many bad jokes

[@Destiny87]

Even though they're part of the same acronym, LGB is quite different from T, so Brian's tranphobia doesn't contradict his support of Jasper.

[@marisachavez8620]

I feel shallow because everyone is having personal decisions, while I'm still savoring that Kitty referenced my favorite song from my favorite musical...

[@MurderHorse]

I can confirm that people still say that. That is how my nana refers to me being trans, her adoptive adult daughter's transgender wife, and both my trans friends.

[@GhostsGraveyard]

That second to last episode is the only time i've understood Glenn. If one of my parents was dating someone with Brian's personality I would start losing my shit too.

[@cencent2189]

People in the world do sometimes have the same voices. It was freaky when I thought I was hearing my sister in a restaurant 😭

[@xaefian]

I remember seeing this episode as a kid always feeling bad for Ida 😢

[@Neku628]

Ida compared to the rest of Quagmire's family, she is normal and stable.

[@prageruwu69]

as a trans person the way ida's first episode went was rough, made me uncomfortable, but at least they didn't fumble the bag as much later on. 7:48 personally i use that phrase sometimes, but it's usually just to explain in basic words what i mean when i say i'm transgender, it's not as widely used anymore. i think the reason it's not used as much anymore is due to pedantics, like the same reason skirts and dresses aren't always called "womens clothing" (because yknow, if a man is wearing a dress it technically isn't "womens clothing", it's a mans clothing). like, a trans woman might not consider herself "trapped in a mans body" because it's technically not a man's body, it's just a biologically male body that she wants to change. idk, just a guess.

[@bargainbinpokemon]

As a trans women it hurts that Ida was one of the earliest trans rep she is just there for blatant transphobia like you can make jokes but the joke of trans people are icky is not a joke and not funny

[@JaxonElzinga]

Either all of it's okay, or none of it's okay. So says the guys who made South Park. Point is, all jokes are okay or none of them are. Sucks to suck, kid.

[@santipantss]

@@JaxonElzingaya mama

[@rayuchiha6233]

You trans people are freaks. A freak of human biology

[@JaxonElzinga]

Nuh uh@@santipantss

[@LoathsomeLucifer]

@@JaxonElzingaall this is really saying is that you can’t think in more nuanced ways so instead you resort to black and white thinking.

[@tessablol309]

Ida just seems very chill and tame compared to the other characters. I think Ida herself is not , I think what the point was to make fun of the characters also viewers who think she is gross being also mirrors the reality of the confused, in shock and other emotional struggles of the families of trans people. Sometimes they will be supportive, other times its basically quagmires reaction.

[@Atinywithsocailanxiety]

I think ida is a great character and good tran representation as long as her being trans is not apart of it because of everyone's reactions if it was just Louis it would make since due to her history of homophobia but it seems everyone feels some type of way

[@Neku628]

"Fetching" was already a thing, it's just old fashioned way of saying, "You look nice!"

[@xxblackkzoruaxx5971]

I got genuinely sick when I watched the thanksgiving episode because of how everyone treated Ida, especially because that’s shortly after I came out about a year ago

[@ARedMagicMarker]

I just like Ida because she's not a fresh, steaming pile a of Brian-turds like most people in this show. In fact, I consider her one of my animated crushes.

[@willgroody5296]

I think they missed a good chance to expand Ida in the episode Silent Screams of Brenda Q as she could’ve tried to help her daughter by encouraging and supporting or for Ida to kick Jeff’s ass for the abuse.

[@fettmanplays4170]

I'm so glad you brought up Quagmire having a hard time with the news of Ida's transition and understanding why he'd struggle with it. One of my closest friends came out as trans after me knowing them for a few years and they knew/understood it's not just a transition period for them, but for their loved ones as well when it came to using their new name and pronouns. It took a few months for me before it became natural.

[@niallfoust8558]

Being trans myself I don’t think ida herself is offensive, it’s the way the other characters treat her that I have the issue with

[@Froward_Thinker]

Yes because no other character is ever treated poorly in Family Guy. You really hate being treated like everyone else huh?

[@junijito9414]

⁠@@Froward_Thinkerwhy do you only comment on this channel to tear down trans people? your comment history is public and you literally only comment on trans issues it’s weird

[@Froward_Thinker]

@@junijito9414 Speaking the truth is tearing down trans people? Maybe you should consider that. I comment a lot and I watched a lot of this creators videos. Her take on this was just so bad and then idiots on here trying to play the victim while demonizing straight men is a little much so yeah i commented.

[@Willowposting]

@@Froward_ThinkerOh no god save the feelings of the straight men, their hundreds of years of suffering and ridicule from those evil gays will surely never be avenged.

[@jaemelancholy1684]

*No not really she started off as a joke character then grew into a full character with personality and charm like Alice from Superjail*

[@hunterruth21]

Im trans myself and I absolutely love ida, its more of the fact that she’s not respected as a person, from what I’ve seen with her in it they definitely disrespect her even if it’s meant as a joke, I get it also that family guy makes fun of everyone but there’s just a little too much transphobia with everyone around her. I’m really chill with trans jokes and can understand not everyone is going to be ok with us, I just think it could be toned down just a little with the transphobia

[@I_missthesage]

I love Ida I hate What they did with her Also Doctor Hartman was so real for this 12:57

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

An ad for some game where you fight zombies played right after you said "roll the clip" That timing was magical

[@sarysa]

Ida is a reasonable human being in a universe of horrible human beings (and talking dogs), so of course she can hold her head high.

[@ToxiCancun]

I'd say yes because, family guy lean on being offensive. However, those unorthodox characters would usually have hosome or deep moments to themselves if they apart of the main cast. Usually the crude gags is just that.

[@Neku628]

Speaking of bars, I remember a now Mediterranean grocery story that used to be a bar. My caregiver at the time freaked out because I took nighttime walks. She thought I got stabbed at the bar.

[@darkangel999]

I actually liked Ida as an character. Yes she has a very plain character and is often pictured as an Klischee, but interaction between her and Quackmierer can be very cute. Also the fact that Vater of the character that behave the worsed towards women is transitioning into one is so hilarious and funny. Sadly all episodes with her are bad most of the time because everyone else is behaving horrible and they never take the chance to make a good story line around her, exactly like youself said.

[@izukumidoriya8600]

I'm guessing you may be german

[@naylaw1928]

Maybe it's just my take but I felt like they made the other characters in Ida's first episode so cartoonishly evil on purpose to show how ridiculous and cartoonishly evil actual transphobes are with dark humor especially since Ida and quagmire genuinely correct them and get upset plus it's not like the show has been setting either Louis or Peter up to be necessarily empathetic characters just sometimes "nice"

[@L1ncore]

I feel that too, the more i look at it. But with Brian basically being Seth mcfarlene’s mouthpiece it kinda falls flat. I think it could’ve been effective had they like, actually had the characters giving stupid reasons for finding her so disgusting that werent just “shes trans”. Theres already so many people in real life who act exactly like the transphobic characters in the show, so it doesnt feel particularly critical.

[@naylaw1928]

@@L1ncore that's my point I don't think it was meant to be directly critical. For 1 yeah Brian is often the mouthpiece but there's still many episodes where it's still ends with him being dead wrong. And for two where are more my personal bias comes in I don't think every show has a spoon feed you the moral of the f***** up this when the joke is just that it's f***** up. That makes me think of the episode where the dolphin came and moved in with the Griffins and a few of the jokes or about polluting the ocean never once did they say technically that was bad but I would like to assume that they assume that Their audience knows that

[@BennSimonn]

In the uncensored version of Thanksgiving, he says "that's just some dumb tr*nny"

[@MaddysinLeigh]

The scene where Quagmire beat up Brian made him my favorite character.

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

I really don't think Ida Davis is "offensive" She's just a relic of a time where Trans characters were pretty uncommon

[@tinkerhell-kj3mv]

I think Ida herself is a pretty decent character. She's open about who she is, she's confident, she cares about her son very much but isn't afraid to put herself above his discomfort with who she is, and she has an identity beyond "the trans woman." The issue is the show she's on. Yes, being offensive is Family Guy's entire thing, but the jokes about Ida were all about how gross trans people are, and while the punchline is meant to be the family's ignorance, it just doesn't play well. I'll give Seth McFarlane credit for trying, but his inability to take criticism on the character was pretty rough to see.

[@Glitchtrapsacrade]

Believe me, I went to a bar. Looking for someone. Too loud and had five rum and cokes. Nobody talked and walked home buzzed.

[@mathieuleader8601]

honestly I wish Glenn Quagmire was Stan Smith's half-brother mentioned in the S2 episode Meter Maid.

[@MommaDusk]

On the whole last name thing. That is something that I am currently going through. I am working on changing both my first middle and last names because I do not like the other people associated with those names. I want to be my own person and not be latched on to anyone who also has those.

[@acerantsalot2048]

“when they move to a new house they’re supposed to notify the neighborhood that’s how it works” bro that’s pedophiles and rapists💀 that joke went way over my head

[@achyfi]

I would kill for them to make Jasper an actual recurring character. I love Jasper so much.

[@rosegirl3220]

Ida dresses like the Christian Scientist mom who refused to get her child with cancer treated at a hospital

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

Ha, she kinda does. :D

[@Ravenbloom57868]

I’m not trans myself but Ida is a good trans representation it’s just the people around her minus Quagmire are awful to her especially Brian and Lois. Brian threw up a whole minute when he found out that lda used to be a man and when he started dating Ida he kept hiding the relationship at one point. Lois is the worst of it. She told Meg to throw out Ida’s food that she made for dinner and she refused to let her use the bathroom, but told her she could use the lawn

[@Jtd1138]

If you found out. You had sex with someone outside of your sexual interests it might seem offensive

[@jasonkeane133]

​@@Jtd1138 Well if it bothers you then it's you're own preference... but for others like myself (bisexual) it doesn't bother me at all

[@chouhimeaibyo4083]

Why is that matter if you not gonna meet that person ever again? A () is (). Its not worst thing having sex with a trans. Yeah if you are in a commited relationship with them or you have genetials preference for the one night stand then yeah you have a right több know and you can respectfully say no thank you. But vomiting for a minute? Thats a little to much. What? You get a trans cooties? No. It was fun. Its not gay but if it is (which not) then what? Nothing. You not gonna fly on every guy ****. This is all stupid.

[@Jtd1138]

@@jasonkeane133 so if I have sex with a lesbian and lie about being a woman that’s fine because I’m attracted to women

[@jasonkeane133]

@@Jtd1138 It depends, like if you're a transgender woman and she accepts you

[@revdrianinvian1841]

Ida herself is okay. It's the jokes at her expense that's kinda icky.

[@michaeltucker224]

I'm not gonna lie laughed with lois and Peter because the thought that Brian slept with quagmires dad kinda like those comebacks back then of I slept with your mom but in this case it's his dad

[@antant6217]

My twin is trans and they love Ida as a character. They think it's funny that she's always innocent but the other characters can't stop saying such dumb things behind her back or casually in front of her. I think the show makes it pretty clear that the other characters are meant to be mocked and not Ida, at least past her first appearance. I can see why people dislike how casually rude most people and it'd be nice if she was the fourth of "the girls" alongside Bonnie, Louis, and Donna just so she has a group to belong to. I don't like her cis voice acting and I really dislike how the Brian relationship ended. Brian had a rare instance of character growth but Ida had this dumb "my son vs you" dilemma which felt super forced and also unfair to the character. It would've been interesting if Ida had some backbone and chose Brian even if it'd bother Quagmire.

[@jarettlee6242]

Some people do not deserve an apology

[@yggdrasil2]

I'm reminded of The Oblongs. That show has a lot of moments that come veeeery close to poking fun directly at minorities, to the point where I wouldn't fault anyone for feeling that it does. However, there is something about the overall execution that just makes the characters work, and even be relatable for viewers who feel like outcasts themselves. I made a video compiling all the best scenes with the trans character Anita Bidet, and I was a bit shocked by the positive repsonse from people who identified themselves as trans in the comments.

[@ScorpSteed]

Brian and Ida were a surprisingly wholesome couple. It’s interesting because Brian seems to be attracted to Ida, even after realizing she was previously a “he” (I’m sorry if my language is insulting in any way), and he does seem to be trying to smooth things over with Quagmire Brian seems like he wants to have a decent relationship with Quagmire, and Quagmire just hates Brian and usually is the first one to throw and insult or start something. The only time I can think of it being the other way around is when Quagmire opened a cat cafe, but Brian’s only issue with Quagmire’s business was it involving cats. Quagmire making Ida choose between him and Brian was super unfair and immature. Quagmire barely sees his dad as it is, so why can’t Ida find a relationship with someone who she has some compatibility with? The episode did a pretty good job at having Brian get over his discomfort because he liked Ida, so why can’t Quagmire do the same?

[@Hack_Man_VII]

Hypothetical relay for the first act of the show. Ida (pre op) arrives with Quagmire at the bar in scene one. She's portrayed in a none jokey way, but it's clear she wants to tell her son something important. We have a couple of scenes with her trying to talk about it, but it doesn't work out. Skip to the ball. Ida rubs into an old war buddy, and introduces him to her son. Quagmire steps away for a moment, and Ida confides in her friend about what's been on her mind. He tells her that Quagmire will surely come around in time, and she needs to do what's best for herself. Ida pulls Quagmire aside to talk 1 on 1, and the act wraps up with his reactions

[@godisjihyo3615]

i sometimes say im a woman trapped in a mans body when i explain myself to people because that really cuts to my experience and feelings in a concise way. it might be antiquated but i have no personal qualms with that description

[@Astrapionte]

12:17 “Have fun at the circus” is CRAAAAZY 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stevestrider362]

Reading some of these expectations makes me think people have never seen Family Guy before 😅

[@xB1GW1GGLYx]

Big respect the avenue q reference

[@brittanybertolin8693]

Ida as a person is fine just i think the way other people react to her as well as the way her transition eas depicted is what people dont like. Like as much as seth will talk about how everyone is supposed to be a bad person, the joke most if the time clearly isnt on ghe Griffin's bigotry but the gross factor of trans people. Also it's not great thag he couldnt do the barw minimum with research aviut the transitjon process (like i gets its the whole shock of her going in whereever a maj and comkng out a woman, but there js a way of depicting her not just getting a "sex change" in a fun way

[@alphawolf798]

No my question is this, if quagmire is 61 how old is his parent's, especially when his mom/dad looks like she/he is in their 50s.

[@grapeshot]

I know that chin is omnipresent.

[@lumigems1141]

I really wanna hear about his sister with the domestic violence and how this is representing victims especially how they react to her baby daddy being a horrible person and the whole situation with his friends

[@Mcflycoolvideos]

This gives me “Mildly pissed off but rational reviewer” or “Pondering Llama” vibe

[@rogueprince1341]

I'm sorry, but I think Ida is in the wrong. She should have told Brian the truth and given him the chance to decline or accept her for who she is knowing the truth. I actually had this happen to me. I was at a drag show with my lesbain cousin and her gf. A woman approached me and told me she thought I was the best-looking guy in the bar and asked if she could buy me a drink. During the drink she told me the truth and I respectful declined her invitation to go back to her place. Instead we had a couple more drinks, watched the show, exchanged numbers and we've become great friends.

[@L1ncore]

For sure. But this IS family guy, the characters are gonna do shit things. The writers wrote it that way so they could have the transphobic reactions.

[@prettypleasewithsugarontop4858]

It’s not transphobic to react that way if you were lied to

[@Zak-bv4qm]

Yeah, Brian was right to vomit. It's not transphobic to be disgusted that you had sex with a trans person.

[@TheZombo]

28:24 why did she just say “hi glen” instead of trying to interfere or say something like “WHAT THE FUCK?!” 😭🙏

[@MMDTrxsh]

I hate that we shared a braincell with calling Peter "Petra" after the character from Attack on Titan.. she's practically an anime Lois. The whole Meg murdering people thing also led me to think about Petra for some reason.. 💀💀

[@BrotherMag]

Speaking of voices, Kitty has a nice voice😊

[@deeksbogard6137]

Wait, how did Ida donate her eggplant to Quagmire and Peter?

[@Sly88Frye]

32:07 Yes monster truck rallies are still a thing. And much bigger cities around my area like San Francisco or San Jose and Oakland they have the big ones like grave digger which is probably the most famous monster truck there is. In my hometown of Santa Rosa every time we have the Sonoma County Fair here there is a monster truck rally although it's not as grand as the ones in the bigger cities. It still is cool that it's a thing though at the fairgrounds

[@BBMacsWorld]

I actually love Ida. I think she's a great character. It's just the way the other characters treat her. Like when Lois through her crumble out and said she has to use the yard as a bathroom. I'm not even gonna mention the Brian scene.... Although, the newer episode when Brian actually starts dating her. It doesn't forgive what an awful person Brian is, but atleast he's more accepting of Trans Women. Also, I sorta get why but. I don't really like how they had her come out literally the day before she transitioned

[@FurretWok]

Trans people don't really say "trapped in a ___'s body" anymore but I could see an older trans person who isn't exactly hip with the community still using it.

[@Kligor2]

Honestly it baffles me how hard they fumbled Ida. A neat trans character with good wisdom about her situation but then every other character is given free reign to take shots at her and very rarely do they get punished for it narratively or otherwise.

[@emmalicious17]

As a trans person the most offensive part about this video is implying family guy is funny at times LMAO. great vid

[@Sly88Frye]

18:02 Love that! Even I have been to a bar and didn't want anybody talking to me. People always persisting on starting some random conversation it's like I wasn't here for that. Let me be by myself.😂

[@High_Hypno]

I don't think so, other than how Brian reacted about it. I don't know what its like being trans but I feel like they do a decent job with the jokes without going too far which is saying something for Family Guy

[@PyxeledGenesis]

As someone who does know what it's like, it isnt hurtful to you for that exact reason. You dont have to deal with the consequences of people agreeing with the jokes

[@High_Hypno]

@@PyxeledGenesis that's a fair point. I'm sorry you have to deal with some real a-holes

[@GraysonicYT]

39:28 The football game thing I’m pretty sure Roberto will be not interested, and Rolo would probably be too young for his mom to allow

[@garynaccarato4606]

"What are you going to name it?What are you going to name your he she father?"Well they are a human and they can decide what they want to be called themselves.

[@FireGlitch]

When you think about it... Family Guy is already pretty mean-spirited to begin with. Also, most of the characters are already assholes to each other at this point. If the creators wanted to, they could havs made Iba a complete joke by default. But they didnt.

[@skylarmccloud4080]

5:33 Yes, he calls his dad sir. He's a Military Brat, My folks were Army so I'm an Army Brat. Not sure what the other branches call their kids I assume brats too. Anyways we called dad Sir. Moms weren't that strict for the most part. You still answer yes ma'am or no ma'am, but you could still call her mom.

[@filmaru8556]

I think Ida’s design also kinda plays into the unrealistic depictions of what a trans woman is supposed to look like. I mean I’m a trans woman and I know I’m never going to look as good as her unless I get complete facial reconstruction surgery.

[@DjPrimeVideos]

To be fair...she IS a drawing.

[@-valmetal-]

i don’t know you personally, but it makes me sad that you find a drawn cartoon character more visually appealing than yourself. i’m sure you’re beautiful!

[@filmaru8556]

@@-valmetal- Well first your both being mean. I was talking about how she’s so similar to other Transwomen in the world who looks way too close to women unlike the rest of us who need to put a lot more work in

[@JohnSmith-jh6ey]

The mariott thing Makes me think of the airport hilton callbacks on South Park