Kizaru vs Big Mom is....

[@JT-km6th]

The reason people think Big Mom beats Kizaru despite the evidence to the contrary is simple. The community decided yonko > admirals years ago so Linlin > Kizaru. That’s literally it for most people. The pirates are cool, the police are not.

[@Mosaic-xerox]

Because they are idiots, now that the yonko system is in shumbles after buggy joined 😂

[@Berlinh2]

Big mom folds kizaru

[@myst2761]

@@Berlinh2based off nothing

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

exactly! same with kaido. he literally doesn't even have feats to prove he can injure kizaru he can't do anything against him. at best he is as strong as luffy but considering that luffy overpowered him it's more likely luffy at least gear 5 > kaido. and it's literally confirmed that even gear 5 could not harm kizaru. kizaru also confirmed to have overpowered gear 4 with a no named attack at that, he literally rendered gear 4 and gear 5 useless kizaru is superior to kaido in every single way...

[@Mosaic-xerox]

@@admiralcon.doriano8026 I agree

[@mr.lester4642]

It will never fail to bother me that most fans ignore that Kidd and Law essentially won by ring out and not brute force. Big Mom was still fully conscious and able when she took her dip in the lava.

[@nobody42071]

I’m started to get tired of repeating that everytime. Thank you for your comment. These Admiral fans are extremely dishonest. If Kizaru or any other Admirals showed feats that could put them above Charlotte Linlin, it wouldn’t even be a debate but they never showed anything. In fact, Egghead arc actually showed us that they are extremely weak offensively. Kizaru is fast yes and ? What about his AP ?

[@obiobi32]

Feats while important do not tell the whole story Feats of mouth are also important The only time Admirals went all out, the climate of an island was altered I rest my case

[@nolenduncan2670]

To be fair kizaru fighting big mom he’d have to look out for big moms 3 homies while also looking out for her

[@nolenduncan2670]

And big mom is a tank she could take a lot more hits from kizaru then kizaru could take from her

[@nolenduncan2670]

I think high diff big mom takes it

[@Salalazai]

@@nolenduncan2670 can fire or lightning hurt a light logia though?

[@waldimort453]

​@@Salalazai Big Mom's homies can use Haki, this has been seen several times with Zeus. And they are immune to Haki themselves, as we saw in the fight against Luffy. are quite powerful beings.

[@xyberlust]

@@waldimort453 It really doesn't matter much since Kizaru is way, way, way faster and has observation haki plus advanced armament. That should deal with them since Haki literally allows you to counteract stuff like logia intangibility. plus her homies are not doing any significant damage

[@waldimort453]

big mom wins. Nothing Kizaru has shown ensures that he would win. big mom is so criminally underestimated... it's really sad that oda didn't give her a real ark but that she wasn't allowed to play the second number on wano kuni. and that he made her a bit of a gag character and as a result she often didn't use her powers. naia. and no, she is nowhere near as slow as people like to make her out to be, there are always scenes where you can see her speed. Clearly she is not at the peak of her power, she is quite old and has neglected her body, but she can still move quickly if she wants

[@Xenonital]

you clearly dont read one piece. Kizaru tanked and got up instantly from an acoc attack, a stronger verison of the one that put KAIDO on his back (he literally speed blitzed the entire island to feed luffy). The 2/3 times luffy hit kizaru was because he was off guarded and NOT using observation haki. Was literally playing around with luffy, sending his clones at him while he jokingly plays around and chokes out ussop even though he only wants to do his 'job' which is to kill vegapunk. Hes faster than luffy, was able to beat him due to luffy not being able to put him down because of stam issues. Further more, kizaru wasnt shown to use any haki (he is confirmed to have advance observation and armament,) was stated to be holding back due to everything on the island destroyed is a net loss due to the technological advancements on this island, and lastly was clearly shown to be mentally nerfed, as garp and many other people said hesitation is weakness. Which we see him hesitate constantly on egghead. Kizaru was out speeding g5 luffy, and blitzed snake man, have we seen big mom ever do that? And again you're wrong kaido and bigmom were STATED to be at their peak.

[@waldimort453]

​​​I read the manga, don't be so arrogant. 1. We don't know whether Luffy attacked Kizaru with ACOC, unfortunately Oda also likes to use the lightning for normal armament haki attacks. 2. Wow, Kizaru isn't a one hit. I never said that either. How many attacks did he have to absorb from Luffy? 3.4? That's nothing compared to Kaido, who had to absorb a lot of attacks + was also damaged by characters other than Luffy. The same applies to Big Mom, she also had to absorb a lot more. 3. Neither Luffy nor Kizaru gave 100%, Kizaru wasn't exactly motivated, as you rightly said, and Luffy was dealing with the Gorosei at the same time + had to keep chasing Kizaru. But it had nothing to do with "playing around". 4. the clones were simply taken down by luffy, they were irrelevant and usopp even more so. 5. no, kizaru is not faster than luffy, at least not in terms of fighting speed. I agree with you about travel speed though, which is irrelevant in close combat. 6. kizaru didn't use haki? OK, then he has something in common with big mom, she also didn't use observation haki and almost no armament haki in the entire fight. No conquer haki either. That means you should also see that as a plus point for big mom if you see that as an achievement of kizaru. And yes, kizaru was also injured, although he had to tank much less than big mom or kaido 7. "he held back because of the technology"... bro, there was a buster call on the island. At a certain point the marines didn't care as long as the brain wasn't destroyed..​ 8. Yes, he defeated Luffy because Luffy can't keep his Gear 5 up for that long (yet). As long as Luffy was in Gear 5, Kizaru couldn't do anything to him. The barrier at Vegapunk did more damage than Kizaru. And we mustn't forget that Luffy at least had to fight Saturn as far as I remember. I don't know if the other Gorosei were already there. + Luffy had to go through the barrier and lost stamina as a result. He wouldn't have fared any better against Big Mom. @@Xenonital

[@yadatada5556]

@@Xenonitalbro you read two piece. You downplay Big Mom so much 😂

[@Xenonital]

@@yadatada5556 Tell me how. You think KIZARU is losing to kidd nd law?

[@gabe7861]

big mom was severely nerfed in that fight. she wasn't even using advanced conq haki attacks and they didn't even really beat her, they just rung her out. plus if kidd and law land on kizaru, they are beating him. if law and kidd can break big moms bones then kizaru is getting done worse.

[@ahmedriyad4264]

3:42 the major weakness with this is 1. This needs mutiple peoples souls 2. Kizaru aint a bitch

[@nobody42071]

1. She can use her own lifespan to get stronger 2. She has a endurance on pair with Kaido 🤧 and is the most durable Yonko after him 3. She can create a homie with Kizaru’s light and combine it to herself or Misery 3. Kizaru is a b*tch because his AP is ass

[@Sunaki1000]

Who said he never fought shanks? And Big Mom has her homies, and can grow gigantic, she didnt go all out against Kaido eighter. Kaido also didnt no diff Law, Law just took a good hit and was still strong enougn to fight Big Mom alone for a short while. The pure fact she, and Kaido stalemated for decades means they close enough in power to not try a invasion. 5:40 she was impressed about the Attacks, because they clearly able to do significant damage to Kaido? And counter shock is a defense bypassing move.

[@Shoddragon]

0:50 uhh.... no? Big Mom and Kaido were splitting the sky during their 3 day clash which means bare minimum her AP is on the level of Luffy after properly mastering ACOC and the Hybrid Kaido he was clashing with. It is made CRYSTAL clear that sky splitting ACOC>>>> Luffy's initial flimsy ACOC>>>>Advanced armament alone. There's no real way around this, Oda goes out of his way to hammer home that this is the case. 1:15 From what we know the list is comprised of people Kaido has actually fought as the various translations have him either saying "just how far will your ceiling go" or " are you saying you'll be as great as they are/were?", implying an intimate knowledge of their power. That said, Big Mom scaling below Prime Oden, Primebeard, Current SHanks, doesn't downscale her, 99% of the entire OPverse would get blitzed and one shotted by Kaido's top 5. For all we know, Big Mom would make number 6 on an extended list. 1:41 brother what? no diffs? The very scene you're using has Kaido get hit in the throat and cough up blood, stating that Law's powers really throw him off. Law then gets hit with a thunder bagua while trying to save Zoro and gets up not even a few seconds later. This isn't even factoring in that Law was already injured from fighting Big Mom and Kaido previously. Law isn't some scrub, he would go on to perform pretty solidly against Blackbeard after Wano despite Blackbeard having 2 of the most broken DF's in the series. 2:30: nobody is saying that Kaido and Big Mom at full power are exactly equal but Oda goes out of his way to show that Big Mom and Kaido are comparable enough. If Kaido is a 100 at full power, Big Mom is probably like a 90, maybe even up to a 95 at full power. It took Law (someone who would perform well against Blackbeard) and Kidd (someone who Shanks considered a huge threat to his fleet based off of a single glimpse into the future) both going all out and using their awakenings just to send Big Mom away from them and it then took literal bombs designed for war to finally do enough damage where she either died or passed out in LITERAL LAVA, with the underwater volcano she was in literally exploding after Kaido's defeat. 5:30 Big Mom told Kaido to dodge because it likely would have done a decent amount of damage and Kaido wound up dodging anyway. Big Mom was obviously surprised by Luffy tossing Kaido around in G4 because Kaido is still stronger than her so obviously, IF Kaido was being hit by so many attacks that did real damage, it would do real damage to her. That said, Kaido didn't actually take much actual damage from that barrage and we know that Big Mom scales to Luffy and Kaido's sky splitting clash later so this doesn't work as an argument. None of this takes into account that Empowered Big Mom is something Lin Lin hasn't felt the need to use in a long time, meaning Base Kaido wasn't threatening enough to her either. I don't necessarily disagree that Kizaru can beat Big Mom due to his performance in Egghead (I think the fact he could push Gear 5 like at all means he can probably beat Big Mom) but I definitely feel like you feel for the "BIG MOM IS WEAK ACTUALLY" meme because there is no way Kizaru is taking her down with only mid difficulty, not based on current feats. Maybe we get clarification in the future that "OMG KIZARU WAS MENTALLY NERFED SO BAD HE COULD ONLY USE 50% OF HIS POWER AGAINST LUFFY" that changes that but so far? Definitely not. Overall I sorta agree with the end result but I feel like Big Mom is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too heavily downplayed still just because she acted kinda dumb during her fight with law and Kidd.

[@Oohsy07]

All this yap just to go 0/7 😭💀🙏

[@obiobi32]

You talk too much What can Big Mom do that Kizaru can't react to?

[@DaeganJohn-de5bj]

First off I would like to say in big moms defense kid and law did not defeat her they outsmarted her let's get that straight also she wasn't scared of luffy or zoro she was just surprised I mean I kind of agree with somethings but I personally feel like she isn't getting beaten that easily besffr Kizaru is my fav though so no I ain't a hater

[@Timothy_Jones55]

Feat wise Kizaru obviously wins and I’ve been the type of person to use feats to determine who would win “what if” battles for a minute. But It has been shown multiple times Oda doesn’t care about scaling at all.Its his story and he will do what ever he seems fit for the story. BM wins because of narrative and plot.

[@jikey173]

How does big mom win narratively? Admirals and yonkos are relative narrative and statement wise. I have always been one to incorporate narrative into scaling but the narrative doesn’t support big mom over kizaru.

[@Timothy_Jones55]

@ you would have to show me where they were shown to be relative cuz I didn’t read the manga and I don’t really remember it specifying. But from my perspective the Yonko were shown to just be these forces of nature(especially Kaido) that everyone was afraid to come across. If I’m not mistaken I remember them being scared when they heard Kaido and BM joined together.This is all just my opinion

[@robinn384]

Feat wise kizarua has nothing that proves he can really put big mom down

[@jikey173]

@@Timothy_Jones55 well, before I delve into all of the statements, even just logically in the narrative, yonkos should be relative to admirals. They’re the respective powerhouses of their groups (the two groups the one piece world mainly revolves around). If one was more powerful than the other, atleast by a noticeable extent, the one piece world wouldn’t be balanced in the slightest and it would be clear which side was dominating. Garp alludes to this in his statement in post enies lobby, when he pretty much says that the warlords and the 3 admirals work to balance out all 4 yonko and their crews. We have also seen, with akainu fighting relatively with whitebeard at the start of marineford and kizaru and luffy being portrayed relatively in their close fight, that they should be relative anyway. Both groups are key players in the final war and are still relevant, along with the revolutionary army and of course, imu, the gorosei and the holy knights. I mean, the marines were even stated to be stronger than ever under akainus leadership when it was revealed that akainu was ruling them. Yes, they were worried when big mom and kaido teamed up, but when you look at it from their perspective, it’s not because they had no way of defeating them if they had two admirals team up, but more so because the thought of even sending an admiral to fight any one of them or invade their base is out of the question since they would get bombarded by two yonkos. Also, two yonkos collaborating could work together to invade bases, destroy bases, work together to try to collect more poneglypls, etc. The marines were worried because a collaboration of two powerhouses, even if the marines have the manpower to fight them, could lead to all sorts of problems. I could delve into the specific statements which imply relativity for them later but that should be enough off the top of my head.

[@jikey173]

@@robinn384 he can harm her since he can considerably harm post wano snakeman luffy, while big mom is going to have a hard time reacting to or attacking him because of the speed difference. Sure, she could endure some, but it’s just going to be her taking attacks consecutively while she can’t do anything about it. Even if she lands an attack after minutes on end, it’s not putting kizaru down since he can even move after taking wsg (and he can tank snakemans attacks).

[@sbthesage]

Big mom in this thumbnail looks like nightmare fuel 😭

[@ahmedriyad4264]

6:47 but it also isnt fair to assume all his lasers are equal He is made up of light he definitely can control how much power he can use

[@GuppySama1]

I’m not gonna lie, Oda be nerfing her highkey, if she used Conquers how we know she should know how to, Law and Kidd would’ve and should’ve been sleep lol. I got Big mom winning against kizaru honestly.

[@Xenonital]

i agree big mom only lost because she conveniently forgot how to use acoc, still dont have her over my goat tho

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

wrong

[@bensylver5113]

nothing porve us it would have be enought she just showed she can beat page 1 with this .

[@GuppySama1]

@@bensylver5113 there’s no way you’re this slow lol. I’m not even gon argue with you

[@bensylver5113]

@@GuppySama1 no arguments

[@Nephalem2002]

Kizaru’s Speed is the only advantage he has. Big Mom I think though is much stronger in WCI via a theory I like to call the “Korriban Buff” theory, where I believe like Darth Sion from Star Wars, Big Mom’s way stronger in an area completely full of her Haki and Devil Fruit’s Power.

[@lolkollkj]

Lasers would definitely hurt her she got hurt by metals

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

@@lolkollkj She can heal herself though

[@lolkollkj]

@@accountnotusedanymore9119 how much healing can she do until kizaru just spams lasers wasting her life force

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

@@lolkollkj She also has homies and her homies can use haki I believe as one of the lightning moves was able to damage luffy on the rooftop. The homies also can be regenerated too. She can also use her 1000 leagues of misery to support her too.

[@lolkollkj]

@@accountnotusedanymore9119 which would amount to nothing since kizaru would spoedblitz all of them

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

Being a logia IS a big factor against big mom because homies cant use haki, so 80% of her move set is just useless, and shes not touching kizaru with her hands Hes just nuking her untill she falls The nuke that took down one of the mangroves is way stronger than any kid attack, and that was casual

[@Divinedelulu]

Big mom didn’t use her conquerors. If she did, law and kid are dead so big mom is cooking kizaru. Remember, BIG MOM WASNT USING CONQUERORS BECAUSE SHE UNDERESTIMATED THEM . Let’s be real I don’t think big mom is going to underestimate an admiral. And you are always underestimating big mom in both videos because she looks clumsy. And then she’s 68. Her prime is 40 to 50. Not 68. Whitebeard was 72 when he was out of his prime. There’s only a 4 year difference. And big mom also suffers from diseases. So if you use your brain, big mom is in the top 15. Easily. It’s just that he can’t beat kaido. But he is stronger than all of the admirals except garp. Probably will lose to sakazuki, but it can go either way since she past her prime. And maybe defeat sengoku because he’s a bit weaker than garp and the other yonkos but still it can go either way.

[@DaeganJohn-de5bj]

I agree with what your saying but she isn't no diffing kizaru bsfr

[@Salalazai]

@@Divinedelulu damn she got diseases? I don't remember that being stated

[@waldimort453]

Well, she definitely suffers from an eating disorder, although that probably wasn't relevant in the fight. There is also the theory that she has Alzheimer's, because of her age it would be fitting and she has acted quite strangely in battle (for example, she was always surprised) and she almost never used Haki in battle, as if she had forgotten it. Regardless of whether it was conquer haki, observation haki or armor haki, almost none of it was used. But of course it's just a theory that I've heard often because it's very unusual.​@@Salalazai

[@Xenonital]

Kizaru was out speeding luffy, and was only getting hit because he was getting snuck, and tanked an acoc attack from luffy that put kaido on his back, the next chapter that isnt a flash back, luffy has food, which is confrimed to be kizaru. So he didn't get stuned at all. Big mom was getting ran over by franky, getting worked by queen and allat. I agree law and kidd only won because she didn't use ACoC. But kizaru got up with no damage and a stronger verison of an attack that put down kaido.

[@imworth5billareyou]

I don’t remember it being stated she was holding back

[@vujonbo]

1: Big Mom isn't in her Prime anymore. 2: Like Gecko Moria, she sat on the throne rather then fought left and right like Kaido had. 3: She relies to much on support. Its just something that I wanted to point out, rather then any argument against what you had to say. I agree with this video, Jesus bless you.

[@lxfj2128]

She is in her prime stop capping sengoku stayed she's the strongest she's ever been

[@vujonbo]

@@lxfj2128 dude, shes 68. All she did was give birth like twice a year. Blud was NOT in her prime like she was in God Valley

[@vujonbo]

She basically joe biden dude

[@Xenonital]

To be fair to big mom, she only lost because she conveniently forgets to use acoc fighting law and kidd

[@abdu7095]

she didnt forget.. the same as WB in Marineford. Did you think WB also forgot to use it during war?

[@mstr293]

@@abdu7095Big Mom did have a superiority complex like Kaido. Considering neither Kidd nor Law has ACoC, she most likely chose to go for a mostly DF fight just to insult the rookies.

[@JT-km6th]

She always had conquerors active for defence so that’s wrong

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

She did use ACOC against Kid's damned punk. While she definitely could've used it against Law when he was using his puncture wille, there weren't really many moments where she could use ACOC because Law and Kid were attacking from a distance and when she was focused on one opponent, the other attacked.

[@admiralcon.doriano8026]

no acoc wouldn't have change anything... oda wants to end the manga adding another chapter of big mom using acoc wouldn't change anything which is why he left it out in order to end the arc a bit faster, or concentrate on other things. it's a pacing reason... again acoc is ONE thing.

[@yurielicay]

Too fast vs too fat.

[@Soapman18]

Uploads every sunday is crazy 💀

[@nikjovan4816]

Ok, hear me out. What if Big Mom uses her soul fruit on Kizaru's light attacks and makes a light Homie? This would give her the needed speed boost to keep up. Then you add on her actually using ACoC against Kizaru, unlike against Kid and Law. And that's important because we know ACoC is an overall buff to stats. Paired with her Haki infused main 3 Homies, her durability and endurance. I think if she pulls that off then she has a chance. I mean she was able to make a new lightning Homie on the fly with Hera. And since that's an element and Logia's are elements she should be able to make a homie out of ice, magma, light, smoke, poison etc...

[@lolkollkj]

It would upgrade her arsenal but would change much she can ride it but kizaru can make quick work and can casually parry acoc attacks from gear 4 she’s still getting slammed

[@nikjovan4816]

@lolkollkj Well, we don't know if she used ACoC against Law and Kid. If she didn't then her full power AP is unkown. If she did then sure.

[@itsmefmd3791]

There's possibility of big mom using kizaru's light to make new homies

[@abdu7095]

what an idea.. im sure BM gonna use effectively

[@JT-km6th]

She couldn’t catch Kid jumping around her but you think she’ll catch light? Also why does that matter, you cannot use a light homie to hurt Kizaru. Fire cannot hurt Sabo, magmna cannot hurt Akainu etc. they are MADE of their element, it is in their DNA now.

[@GIVEPROOFKID]

@@JT-km6thshe caught Marco who caught up to kizaru lil

[@mad3038]

Sanji stop kizaru attack because he was wearing vegapunk shoes 🗣

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Thats not true 😂

[@Chillersnowman]

Stoping a simple laser beam means nothing yk.

[@rayannaysoneorges3200]

​@GLOCKTOBERWhat you say doesn't make sense, because the work tells us that the yonko are equal in terms of power. If Kizaru can beat Big mom or even match her power, he can do for all the other yonko.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@rayannaysoneorges3200 yeah Buggy is definitely one of Kaido's strongest rivals 😭😭😭🤣🤣

[@rayannaysoneorges3200]

@@GLOCKTOBER buggy the man who dominated mrs crocrodil and mihawk by power alone, if it's this buggy he is still weak in front of kaido, BM, WB and shanks.

[@jjsmooth23]

Nah, Big Mom beats Kizaru. Her AP is clearly superior, and haki is a big matter in fights. If Big Mom used Acoc on Kid and Law, they would be knocked out. Oda hot to nerve Big Mom in the fight, and Law and Kid lose via a ring out. Then you have to mention the fire that took her out. Kizaru has speed, but Rayleigh was able to contend with Kizaru. Kizaru only has speed over Big Mom.

[@obiobi32]

Kizaru would clap Big Mom He was playing with Rayleigh at Sabaody Same Rayleigh that scared Blackbeard at Amazon Lily He was even ready to fight Kaido and Big Mom at Wano until Sakazuki talked him out of it Kizaru no diffed snake man Luffy at Egghead Same Snakeman Luffy that was landing hits on Kaido before he started using future sight

[@bashamd96]

Kizaru stomps so hard Big Mom auto loses

[@NewAceFan]

Fr

[@Berlinh2]

Average Admiral Glazer that looses to Ben Beckman

[@bashamd96]

@Berlinh2 I'm not an admiral glazer. I'm anti Big Mom

[@JusKiyoshi]

@@Berlinh2 kizaru slaps beckmann

[@Jaxonthelegend1]

@JusKiyoshinot with his hands up like that lmfao

[@edwardlewis4724]

Marco and luffy flat out moved more distance than kizaru's attack could. Kizaru flat out says he's not able to get past Marco after Marco *out-sped* Kizaru's attack. Big Mom flat out snatches Marco right out of the air, and she's doing the same thing to Kizaru. Yall have to come to grips with the scaling, for example have you see kizaru lift more than a tea set? Exactly, he's not getting out big mom's grip.

[@PriestLargo.]

I think Kizaru beats Bigmom due to a match-up. His speed is just simply too much for her to handle. And his durability is no joke, not to mention he has some of the best defence in the One Piece world. I genuinely can't imagine Bigmom beating Kizaru. If this match is in an open field with no restrictions. Big Mom is getting thrashed. If it's in an enclosed space, then Big Mom has a chance to catch Kizaru.

[@nobody42071]

0:53 Yes, she’s not equal but she is relative in power, haki and durability

[@wukongisas9564]

Agreed, also that scan of her and Kaido>Marineford admirals can be argued as inconsistent since Whitebeard during that time period is said multiple times to be the world's strongest pirate on top of the fact that you got the 2019 V-Jump magazine stating that Shanks (y'know the dude who one tapped Kid which even an amped BM could'nt do) is equal to the admirals. Like at best she's maybe comparable to a holding back hybrid kaido but even then it's not certain as he calls her pathetic and doesn't even consider her as someone capable of fighting him, meanwhile you got Kizaru straight up fighting and in some instances even blitzing a Luffy that was kept up with that same Kaido. Kiz wins Edit: Just found a scan that states she attacked Kid and Law with everything she had, so she indeed wasn't holding back against them which makes that even worst for her 💀

[@Salalazai]

Damn completely forgot about the Kaido + Big Mom > MF admirals scan lmao, some ppl use it to say kaido + big mom >= 1 admiral Also how does one prove that Magazines are canon? They say a lot of weird and contradicting stuff, like Kaido being the strongest pirate in history, Whitebeard retaining all of prime strength while old, Zoro after Wano and Cavendish being rivals, etc

[@mstr293]

“Everything she has” - She didn’t even bother using Ryou like she did to one-shot Page One. “Everything she has” would be equivalent to Kidd using Damned Punk, Luffy using the Bajarang Gun, Kaido using the Flaming Bagua, Zoro using The King of Hell in which they would be left exhausted/losing consciousness and nothing left to throw afterwards. We NEVER saw this with Big Mom. She was thrown off Onigashima while still having the energy to speak, move and climb. None of her attacks exhausted her like what I listed.

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

@@mstr293 Well, she was definitely nearly out of it. Kid said while using his damned punk "Why would we listen to the words to a half dead emperor", she was using her homies to try to regain her energy so she can deflect the Damned punk back. But she wasn't out of it to the extent of Law and Kid, and would have beat them if she was not pushed off onigishima. With this being said, it doesnt change the fact that Big Mom is still a tank. Tanking two awakened DF's especially one that ignores durability is insane even when you think that Big Mom specializes in durability. Kizaru does have attacks that negate durability like his beams but it wont matter cause Big Mom can just heal her bones.

[@Shoddragon]

- Whitebeard's title was not factoring in his sickness, Marco notes that WB's health was deteriorating very fast and that's why he was struggling so bad. Shanks has shown to literally frighten admrials like Greenbull with haki alone. - This argument is bad as Big Mom wasn't empowered when Kaido was insulting her. - This is a much much better argument. Kizaru's performance against G5 Luffy and G4 Snakeman are wayyyyyyyyyyyy more convincing arguments for how he'd do against Big Mom rather than downplaying Big Mom's performance in Wano.

[@wukongisas9564]

@@Shoddragon - I don't really remember the sickness not being factored in, hell even during the war where said sickness took place you still got characters like Sengoku refering to his title as the strongest man and Garp calling him the king of the sea. Also yes Shanks is clearly above the current admirals that statement mainly applies to the OG who are just implied and shown to be in a completely different league - You could argue that but even after that it's not really implied she's comparable to him, hell Kaido even blitzes Law who was keeping up with her - Agreed and tbh i don't really think it's downplay her performance wasn't really good in Wano

[@blessinganwana9854]

Big mom isn't all too fast so someone tell me why I keep hearing the argument that a few acoc attacks puts kizaru down?

[@Xenonital]

which is dumb kizaru literally tanked a stronger acoc attack that stunned kaido, and barely stunned if at all kizaru (he got up a few seconds later, speed blitzed the island and got food for luffy)

[@rayannaysoneorges3200]

What attack kizaru tanked.

[@Xenonital]

@@rayannaysoneorges3200 WSG, he quite literally got up right after being hit back down to get luffy food

[@rayannaysoneorges3200]

It's true, but we don't know if it's acoc that is used.

[@Xenonital]

@@rayannaysoneorges3200 It was surrounded by black lightning, didn't touch him it went through him, and had the kanji that is always with acoc attacks.

[@Salalazai]

W vid. Absolutely beautiful. Straight to the point, addresses the most important points clearly. It honestly makes sense for Big Mom to be overall strong but weak compared to other top tiers, even narratively. She's an obese woman who probably DOESN'T train physically, gave birth to close to a hundred children in her lifetime, and I would argue she's stronger in her territory Whole Cake Island than anywhere else, since it's where she has most of her homies using up her soul. And yet she's super impressive. Minus the antifeats and gag antifeats Best way I can defend Big Mom is saying that she was destroying Law and Kid offscreen in a bully way, since we see a shot of Big Mom laughing at them while they're both to the ground, which would require her enough speed/DC to tag and hurt both significantly, then she got tired wasting energy on them and since that moment they took the opportunity to combo her. But I do believe Kizaru would beat her Law did tag and hurt hybrid Kaido then defend himself with Antibacterial Curtain, just wanted to point that out to give some flowers to BM. He got blitzed afterwards sure but that doesn't invalidate Law's feat Honestly surprised you didn't mention badly hurt Kid blatantly outpacing Bigger Mom and using Assign on her forehead before she can touch him. Or her fight against Marco, some people use that because apparently Big Mom > Marco = Kizaru One question, how strong do you think "prime" Big Mom wss? Was it her Rocks days or is it in Wano? Since "Roger avoided fighting her" and stole her poneglyphs

[@SUSOVAN00]

Kaido also not mentioned Silvers Rayleigh, Scopper Gaban, Shiki and Mihawk. But still I don't think Oden was stronger than this MF🔥🔥

[@tushigtvshig6284]

Strength:Bigmom Speed:Kizaru Durablity:Bigmom Endurance:Bigmom AP:kizaru DC:kizaru Hax:Bigmom Abilty:?

[@isabelpage5950]

Bro unironically said Big Mom isn't top twenty. I know I can disregard everything else you say.

[@lolkollkj]

Name the placement you would put her in

[@isabelpage5950]

@lolkollkj Currently, top ten. Will definitely get power crept in the future, but she is relative to Kaido. They split the sky, the literal thing that shows equal Haki and was done to show Luffy finally reaching Kaido's level. She and Kaido are also stated to be superior to the three Admirals, so she's at least stronger than the weakest OG Admiral, whoever you consider that to be, and in the manga Roger actually avoided her when stealing her Poneglyph. The anime makes it seem like he raided her island rather than sneaking in and barely escaping. Roger wasn't at his strongest yet, but neither was Big Mom.

[@lolkollkj]

@@isabelpage5950 big mom and kaido are not equals they were messing around, Roger doesn’t just always fight everyone, bro said it’s stated their superior to the three admirals WHATTT, please reread the kizaru and luffy fight and big mom vs kid and law

[@isabelpage5950]

@lolkollkj So I bring events and author statements you baselessly say they don't count for reasons back up by neither? Typical One Piece fan.

[@lolkollkj]

@@isabelpage5950 show me a link to where oda specifically says big mom and kaido are stronger than the three admirals please, also the worlds strongest creature isn’t a worldwide title

[@Fnafmaster1359]

Amazing vid like always shadx

[@AglazingTiber]

I smell a goon nearby 😤

[@Fnafmaster1359]

@ uh ok

[@Fnafmaster1359]

@@AglazingTiber uh ok

[@kota8927]

I feel like this is one of the few occasions where the battle would end in a stalemate

[@lolkollkj]

How tf does it end in a stalemate she’s obviously getting slammed

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

@@lolkollkj Because of her durability, she tanked two awakened DF users and was still even ready to go even more. Not only this, but she can heal her bones on will. Physical attacks will not work on Big Mom. Kid states this himself which is why Law was needed to soften her bones.

[@lolkollkj]

@@accountnotusedanymore9119 kizaru tanked whit star gun which is on par with barjung gun which would one shot big mom. Kizaru has better durability and speed.

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

@@lolkollkj Well, I would not say he tanked it. While he was definitely stalling, to an extent, he has to carry out his title, or he will be seen as rogue. It's the same thing with Garp, he could have brushed Sengoku off when Ace was killed to fight Akainu but he let himself be stopped. The same thing is with Kizaru. With that being said, dude was also seeing things. Kizaru was definitely damaged and down for a good bit upon being hit by this attack. Even if he DID tank it, Star Gun is not on par with Barjung Gun in terms of it's striking power, but it would not make sense to use barjang gun against Kizaru because he would easily dodge it. Big mom tanked two awakened DF attacks and still wanted to fight some more. Law's DF ignored durability similar to Luffy's barjang gun (if he used ACOC), yet Big Mom still was able to keep fighting and nearly changed the duo's directive from defeating her to trying to knock her off onigishima.

[@lolkollkj]

@ ain’t no way your saying white star is only as strong as puncher Willy and famed punk hell nah, also luffy went out of gear 5 after using it same with barjung so nahh I’ll say barjung is a little more powerful because of the radius but nah

[@kumeyuri5]

Who made the thumbnail that shit goes crazy

[@bensylver5113]

not only that but its also stated on kizaru last vivre card that you need advanced observation just to fight him .

[@blankblank6214]

Personally, I'm pretty sure Big moms peak is around 75% of kiados peak and is up to getting low to mid diffed by kiado

[@captainnekomata9969]

Big Mom has Canonically caught Light Speed Characters with her bare hands. She can keep up with Kizaru. End of story.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Kizaru can canonically move faster than light start of story 😭😭

[@DrakoNotDraco]

​@@GLOCKTOBER prove it

[@Wastakend]

Nice vid, can't wait for the top 50 of 2024 Edit: probably shouldn't be asking this but when is the top 50 of 2024 gonna be released? I'm curious

[@EMPEROROFTHESEA-t4m]

Bro really said big mom was so weak that she was defeated by characters that kaido no diffs 💀 lolll the whole entire fight big mom sees them as an annoyance rather than a real threat to her she didn't even used her advanced conqueror in the whole fight and only used it against page one,even laser cannons and shockwaves don't didn't injured her,she has her devil fruit which is pretty versatile as it can be used for offensive, transportation, defensive, healing factors, she's not that smart we all know that, she's not that fast compared to kizaru we know that,lol law and kid only won because of their awakened and ofc plot freaking armor exist the misery can literally kill kid yet he survived the thunder strike and the lightning punches like it's just a punch from someone using a basic armament lol,out of topic but blackbeard is nowhere near to gear 5 loll, the only advantages that kizaru has is just freaking iq and speed lol, c'mon let's be honest big mom is underrated and overhated like y'all keep saying she's weaker than almost everyone because of her split personality and iq is just a dumb reason,we didn't even know how powerful big mom is if she goes all out yet you said kizaru mid diffed a full powered linlin 💀 tsk shitty brats

[@liamnathan2847]

Big Mom is strong but her speed and IQ are so terrible that she gets clowned on by weaker characters!!! All of the admirals pack her up and honestly Elbaf Zoro probably could as well!!! She has nothing in her arsenal that can give her an advantage over Zoro especially as she is old and slow, and Zoro is rapidly reaching his peak!!!! Moral of the story, Big Meme is the fodder of the Yonko!!!

[@marcelfields-ti7wv]

If old Rayleigh kould touch him I think Kan to man

[@generalyousif3640]

Big mom and Kizaru goes both ways, to think otherwise or the fight is one sided shows you don’t watch the show lol

[@fdmz2537]

kizaru would mop the floor with big mom,if you have any braincell left in there,there's no freaking way you think big mom stand a ghost of a chance against kizaru,no chance in hell. He's literraly better than her at everything. Kizaru toyed with g5 luffy and could've killed him instead of feedkng him. G5 luffy would beat the living shit outta big mom,she'd go high diff against g4 luffy,let alone g5 lmfao. Let her beat,jinbei,franky,brrok,chopper,law,kid etc,she'd flee at the sight of kizaru.

[@generalyousif3640]

@ Kizaru can’t damage big mom

[@fdmz2537]

@@generalyousif3640 retarded reply as i thought,cope harder

[@SM1LE2006]

Great vid, been waiting for one

[@itznub69]

I’m too fast I’m to fast I’m to fast

[@NewAceFan]

Decided to make a wis edit after seeing this vid

[@yakirchernin6015]

I think you have forgotten a subtle feat of BM- Roger feared her. He *stole* a copy of her poneglyph and avoided fighting her

[@raffaeleramieri3411]

Big Mom literally calls Kaido a thing and couldn't even imagine him losing

[@synysterpain]

To be fair to big mom, if she wasn't pushed down in lava, she woulda got back up

[@rodthedigger2902]

Great video!

[@JusKiyoshi]

Kizaru stomps big mom, we can debate this if you want guys

[@GigaChad-u1f]

I'm pretty sure most admirals are a little weaker than the Yonko (they get mid-high diffed) but Linlin is so past her prime she's actually weaker than an admiral!!🤣

[@suzukazemayo-lv9iz]

Mid high is crazy , it's atleast extreme diff if not more

[@GigaChad-u1f]

@suzukazemayo-lv9iz nah,I'm talking about the new Admirals, you're talking about the OG The OG were far stronger than the new ones

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

Depends on what your definition of weaker is, cause Big Mom is a tank. She can also heal bones so even if Kizaru lands a few holes in her its not going to matter she will heal up and she has homies to back her up

[@atarireeves2137]

To be fair…she died from the lava like a dumb ass and ate two dam punks and a bomb that was meant to blow up and island. She only died cuz she couldn’t call for her homies

[@atarireeves2137]

Cuz right she fell down…kid and law were dam near useless

[@wwekings9505]

Issue is big mom could have a hard time hitting kizaru at all, while kizaru attack might legit do no damage for a while, depending if kizaru can slowly damage here and take her out, but if big mom can get a hit in, it going to hurt way more

[@lolkollkj]

If metal can damage big mom why couldn’t lasers work?

[@achour.falestine]

Since zoro = 6 admirals and he is weaker than big mom thus big mom low diffs kizaru next question

[@yoguyslookatmypetlightsabe8211]

How is zoro worth 6 admirals😭 when he not even beating one. Do not fw one piece fans

[@achour.falestine]

@yoguyslookatmypetlightsabe8211 no bro you see according to the official holy book of zorotards Zoro = 6 admirals trust me

[@Salalazai]

LMAOO 😂😂 bro using the 3 admirals = 1 yonko because 3 admirals came together to use advanced armament to block WB's attack plus zoro = 2 yonkos bc he blocked for a second Kaido + Big Mom's Hakai Zoro = 2 yonkos = 6 admirals

[@GIVEPROOFKID]

Huh

[@GIVEPROOFKID]

@@yoguyslookatmypetlightsabe8211zoro straight up beats any admiral via Ashura none got reaction speed endurance durability on kaidos level

[@StudentOfTG]

100% Agreed with your take, and what do you think on Kizaru being able to use those clones to from 30 direction and use that "acceleration = power" move that surely has to be busted. And thoughts on Akainu vs Kaido?

[@rahdope]

Hurt by Counter Shock 😭😭😭

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Clearly didn't watch one piece if you honestly believe big mom doesn't stack up to the other emperors.

[@tunnelvision7906]

She doesn't kaido shanks whitebeard are all good combatants and are relatively smart and knowledgeable in combat, big mom is a bumbling idiot, she only beats characters she can overpower like a goofy. But anyone close to her strength with any sort of brain and speed wins

[@Auron1Roxas2]

@@tunnelvision7906 She literally killed a giant when she was a child, was one of the core members of the rocks pirates, had control over multiple islands and made multiple alliances through politics and negotiations. Whereas someone like kaido would use brute force, Big Mom was more clever to build up her power. Like her plot to get germa 66's tech. She and her crew use a combination of subtlety and force to get what they want. Between her and kaido, Big Mom's crew is more likely to still be active due to how organized they are even without her. Whereas Kaido's quickly fell apart.

[@GIVEPROOFKID]

@@tunnelvision7906actually it’s potrayed that she’s the most successful yonko The idiot one would be shanks and so would be the weakest one according to ace novel

[@tunnelvision7906]

@@Auron1Roxas2 I'll give you that big mom isn't stupid when it comes to politics and negotiation and getting what she wants I get that but in terms of her combat intelligence she's stupid. And it's the reason why people believe shanks, kaido admirals all beat her due to her portrayal and her being a mindless dummy in combat or what's shown of her

[@i.f.a2132]

Kaidou has most definitely fought Shanks! When the red hair pirates stalemated the best pirates from going to Marineford

[@Nunu-K]

Wtf buggy do😂

[@accountnotusedanymore9119]

Big Mom comfortably takes many more stats than Kizaru, but the problem is the speed. Kizaru can wear her out but he also doesn't have very good durability feats. Big mom however was tanking two awakened DF attacks, and even was able to heal her bones when she wanted at the cost of her life span. She has better Armament and ACOC. Depends on if she can land hits on Kizaru.

[@fdmz2537]

kizaru destroys big mom any day of the week,let it go man,just let it go.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

7:05 Disagree with the notion that Luffy was using ACOC in Snakeman against Kizaru, given the lack of visual tells like the black lightning or the connectionless hits. ‘But why wouldn’t Luffy use it if he’s up against a strong opponent’ Maybe to conserve stamina/haki, especially since they don’t know if Kizaru is the only admiral/strong marine to be there.

[@Xenonital]

The lack of visuals always happens, thats literally the number 1 problem with most one piece fans with haki. It's simply unclear, but luffy used an ACoC kick at the start of the fight in base. Why would he NOT use it when he powers up into gear 4?

[@robinn384]

@@Xenonitalbecause oda makes it clear when luffy uses advanced conq

[@Xenonital]

@@robinn384 Again, why would luffy start off the fight with an ACoC kick, but then not use it until g5

[@robinn384]

@ plot just like why big mom didn’t use conq on kid and law but did on page one and why luffy used conq on wsg then didn’t use again while fighting kizarau again and the gooresi

[@Xenonital]

@@robinn384 Because he had no need to, kizaru wasn't fighting him, and clearly wasnt trying to fight him. And saturn and the other gorosei didn't even land a single attack on luffy.

[@larrychristopher2833]

You watching 2 piece if you think there’s 20 characters stronger than Big Mom

[@Mosaic-xerox]

Shanks Kaido Dragon Imu Garling Garp Sengoku Akainu Aokiji Mihawk Luffy Venusjuro Mars Jupiter Warcury Black beard Loki Kizaru Shanks - godknight Ben Beckmann

[@larrychristopher2833]

@ Not Bb not Garp not Sengoku not Ben Beckmann not any individual Gorosei, not Loki stop glazing he hasn’t thrown a punch, and no admiral except Akainu maybe. You do realize Big Mom has yet to be out right defeated her only loss was her getting knocked off platform. Notice every character who’s talked about her speaks about her like they’re not sure they could beat her your only hope of beating her is if she makes a mistake

[@Mosaic-xerox]

@@larrychristopher2833 all of them beat the shit outta her, the Gorosei would wreck her with ease. The admirals would wreck her mid difficultly, she struggled with kid and law and lost to them. Deal with it

[@larrychristopher2833]

@ half of the people on the list have never had a serious 1 on 1 fight or we’ve never seen them fight get a grip bro your favorite character would avoid Big Mom at all cost like everyone other than Luffy

[@larrychristopher2833]

@ half of the people on the list have never had a serious 1 on 1 fight or we’ve never seen them fight get a grip bro your favorite character would avoid Big Mom at all cost like everyone other than Luffy

[@GabrielLove-t6k]

What makes me mad is that we all now big mom uses lighting right?. And she uses fire attacks too how the heck does lighting hurt her if she grabs and uses lighting as attacks!!!!!

[@lolkollkj]

I swear I can promise you these one piece fans never read or watched or even watched the video. big mom is wayy slower than kizaru, kizaru managing to out speed gear 5, kizaru tanking white star gun which is on par with barjung gun in ap which is stronger than any big mom attack can ever be.some are saying she could make a light homie but realize kizaru isn’t gonna be damaged he can make quick work of them and keep attacking big mom. Some are saying she’s nerfed, nahh people who say that are coping she can use acoc but her iq is so terrible she forgets she even has it it’s like plugging a controller to big mom not big mom herself fighting, even if she did utilized it kizaru can just tank those attacks anyway. Kizaru would low diff and speed blitz her end of discussion stop the cope.

[@joeygamingnl2724]

I do think you’re criminally underestimating them both but yes Kizaru slams

[@pokeballblaze9835]

Nah, you makes sense in multiple regards but bro Big Mom got hard nerfed by plot during Wano

[@bensylver5113]

same happened to kizaru but dude was so strong Oda had to legit remove him by his own choice .

[@Alex-h5e9v]

Kizaru went soft with G5 helping luffy in the end , he could handel Big mom mid diff

[@breakhammer87]

Bullshit

[@Bowmacho]

I definitely still have big mom beating kizaru. She has advance conquers haki And if she feels threatened enough she will use it📈

[@DeathNote_777_]

Big mom beats kizaru. Lol Here’s the scaling: AP-BM DC-Big Mom Strength-Big mom Speed-Kizaru Durability-BM Endurance-BM Stamina-Big Mom Haki-Big Mom (ACOC>ACOA and both hasn’t shown FS feats) DF-Kizaru(logia) Hax-Big Mom Combat skills-Kizaru Weapon-Big Mom Experience-Big mom Agility-Kizaru Winner-Big Mom high diff.

[@suzukazemayo-lv9iz]

That's all statics but in real fights , kizarus gonna just speed bliz and snipe that old fart

[@DeathNote_777_]

@@suzukazemayo-lv9iz by that logic, kizaru is much faster than akainu too. Can he beat akainu just with his speed??

[@suzukazemayo-lv9iz]

@@DeathNote_777_ big mom is a slowpoke compared to even akainu . And have you seen kizaru going all about ? We know akainu beat kuzan that doesn't mean kizaru is the weakest in that trio

[@DeathNote_777_]

@@suzukazemayo-lv9iz so you mean kizaru is stronger than akainu?😂😆

[@DeathNote_777_]

@@suzukazemayo-lv9iz How is big mom slow compared to akainu? Akainu was too slow to react to sick and old whitebeard’s attack. Big mom has ACOC that is the strongest power up in one piece. It boosts endurance, durability, attack,defense, speed and stamina. Kizaru doesn’t have that ability. BM got 3 homies who helps her to move faster and fight against her opponents. BM didn’t even use her ACOC against 2 of the awakened fruits (fruits best for team work). BM was clearly faster than both of them individually. Law’s ability saved them from big mom. Big mom is yonko for a reason and she would definitely beat the hell out of kizaru in a 1v1.

[@Azure_Dinho]

Question: How can you prove the snakeman attacks Luffy used on Kizaru where acoc?

[@bensylver5113]

Because is he an idiot ?

[@Shoddragon]

we can't. Oda is kinda weird about drawing ACOC when only one person has it. Unlike Zoro who gets those green flames, we only know Luffy was using it against Kaido due to repeated statements and the sky splitting stuff. I think it's also implied that Gear 5 is ALWAYS using ACOC but we have no real statement besides Kaido commenting that Luffy was using ACOC and advanced armament and fighting in such a "strange way" when he was in G5.

[@lxfj2128]

Because Luffy turned off his haki to nerf himself 😂

[@jikey173]

It’s kind of clear that kizaru wins. Kizaru is closer to luffy than big mom.

[@nostalgiagamer9452]

Kaido obviously beats big mom and so does shanks but i feel like people forget she is so durable she wasnt killed with force she was killed by law and kid out thinking her and dropping her from onigashima. Also she has all 3 advanced haki she just couldn't use them in wano because of hunger pains.law and kid couldn't hurt her even without advanced haki.so i genuinly dont know anything kizaru could do to her.

[@YoungShonen]

Kaido and shanks did fight that’s stated multiple times directly

[@GLOCKTOBER]

no

[@YoungShonen]

@ yes ignore the direct statements at marineford🐺

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@YoungShonen what statments

[@YoungShonen]

@@GLOCKTOBER chapter 580 it’s stated shanks and kaido fought specified they were fighting and kaido doesn’t just take people’s word for someone to be in his top 5 he has to fight that person to consider them on that tier and like everyone else in his top 5 shanks could threaten his life that’s the narrative that’s built up

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@YoungShonen The only people who say they fought are random marines who dont know what was going on then Kaido himself tells Luffy that he hasn't fought someone as powerful as him in a long time. We dont even know how the conflict was resolved and I never said Kaido just took Shanks' word I said he sense his power with OBV Haki.

[@vampiranya9939]

"Kaido fought 3 people stronger then them" Where? I counted only 1 person stronger than Kid/Law that Kaido fought, being Luffy. And he fought most of them individually, besides rooftop where everyone were still no awakening, no conquerors no threats.

[@ashlol1839]

Snakeman.was.not.using.acoc. And was NOT "no diffed" He had his hands up, signifying a reacting and parrying and he got back up in g5 COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BARRIER DAMAGE Kizaru still wins tho But I think sweat scaling isn't the way to go about it Zoro's slash had Oden's haki, and that was Luffy's max output G5 also doesn't amp Luffy's speed, he's a human who ate the human human fruit Rest is faxx

[@mamabudgieclipper2735]

Feat wise, luffy isn't on the tier of kaido yet and is closer to bigmom, but i wouldn't say luffy beats her every time

[@GLOCKTOBER]

????

[@mamabudgieclipper2735]

@GLOCKTOBER look saying kaido took no dmg from multiple bleeding panels from characters outside luffy and the fact he used Stamina the whole time moving an island luffy even with gear 5 wouldn't be able to beat kaido in an actual 1v1 we had the 9 scabbards reopening his scar zoro making a new scar law shocking his heart and killer cutting his internal organs he was internally bleeding though his fight with gear 5 while luffy while yes took dmg got to sleep during the worst gen being up their to gain Stamina and then got food to regen Stamina while kaido got no recovery during the rooftop

[@saisan_ba8486]

What a dumpster of a video 😂😂😂

[@sbthesage]

I think Big Mom is equal to a non drunk base kaido that’s just my opinion tho

[@GLOCKTOBER]

why

[@sbthesage]

@ bc she fought against non drunk base kaido 😭?

[@muhammadsraiti8280]

Could you make a video about Zoro vs yamato?

[@GLOCKTOBER]

ill do sanji

[@GIVEPROOFKID]

It’s not even close Acoa zoro already mid-high diffs Acoa zoro could damage kaido and tank hits Acoc hybrid Yamato couldn’t Acoc zoro negs Acoa zoro

[@DrakoNotDraco]

Bro said Snakeman uses ACoC against Kozaru im dead bro youre bad at scaling

[@kirbyleavell7271]

Oden vs Ryuma

[@ubergoober25]

Only in the OP community can a character get turned into a frisbee and somehow come out getting scaled higher than they were before lol

[@erosensei-hy9ml]

Read oda's sbs to know why he is getting scaled higher

[@bensylver5113]

yes right jump rope kaido ?

[@asome804]

W vid

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

Bigmom beats Aokiji and you can't prove that she doesnt.

[@yoguyslookatmypetlightsabe8211]

He did. In that video (which you have not debunked btw.

[@Trickey2413]

Kizaru beats kaido too

[@GLOCKTOBER]

no

[@monkeydgarp9663]

Big Mom wins easily

[@justinwilliams3392]

Yo you got a discord server

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Na not yet

[@justinwilliams3392]

Where do you get you pixel calcs

[@NoahPasteel]

You are just a big mom hater she use one time haki on law and he was literly going down and she is also 10 years older than kaido she is 68 and kaido 59 you didn’t even now what you are talking about. I hate people that are like you big mom serious she beat kizaru meid diff and law and kidd mid low diff. It was just for saying that you are just a big mom hater it is just the only reason why you underating her. “ and I come from Belgium it is why I didn’t can whrite english”

[@D.Strawhat]

still taking big mom. Luffy used advanced haki once.

[@GVK-jm9sg]

Your a herb bro

[@GLOCKTOBER]

😩😩Awwwwwwaaaa*🪴

[@Berlinh2]

Big mom wins Extreme Diff

[@lolkollkj]

“ I read two piece 🤓”

[@Berlinh2]

@@lolkollkj yea you definitely read two piece if you think kizaru wins this

[@lolkollkj]

@@Berlinh2 Kizaru: tanked white star gun that’s an attack on par with barjung gun which knocked out kaido, faster than luffy which means faster than kaido, ap that can hurt luffy without even using advanced armament. Big mom: a fatass who was getting blitz by fucking zoro, greatest attack getting blitz by law, was getting hurt by metal. Yea the fatass is getting slammed

[@Jaxonthelegend1]

Big mom wins lol nice try though

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Why

[@Jaxonthelegend1]

TF do you mean why? Your whole argument is about downplaying everything BM did while wanking every fart and sneeze Kizaru does. The dude doesn’t even have ACoC and was squashed by Luffy’s Haki grip making him spit out blood. You conveniently forget how she is the ONLY enemy who never got KO’d and had to be tricked, shoved into a Volcano and NUKED to be rid of. (Even with all the absurd plot armor and nonsense Ultra instinct law had going for him)

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Jaxonthelegend1 can you actually argue the points instead of just fanboying

[@Jaxonthelegend1]

@@GLOCKTOBER can you? Seriously, the downplay is ridiculous. Btw I respect Kizaru to good deal but if you can use those arguments against BM, why isn’t Kizaru getting his blunders used against him. BM is an offensive defensive monster with her own skill set. If you’re so quick to dismiss her elemental powers/hax as useless, then why would Kizaru’s element be a contrary?! Kizaru has shown absolutely NOTHING in terms of AP to be able to seriously damage a tank like her, much less incapacitate her. Even then she has insane recovery. Meanwhile, a single ACOc hit and he was on his ass

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Jaxonthelegend1 um 🙄 as said in the vid Kiz has advanced armament so he can hurt her and he’s like way faster. Also did Big Mom one shot Kid or Law?

[@roronoaDzoro1111]

zoro slams both of em

[@Xenonital]

funny

[@AbbasAlqattan]

In future yes when fighting mihawk but currently no

[@breakhammer87]

I have rarely seen someone that didnt understand Big Mom so gravely. I personally hate Big Mom but she bodies every Admiral and even Kaido would high diff her; this Video is so much cope wow….. she literally has a broken fruit and Law is the embodiment of a counterfruit to her. Wow 1/10

[@GLOCKTOBER]

care to explain