The Big Mom Situation is Crazy...

[@GLOCKTOBER]

NOTE: I DID NOT EDIT THIS VIDEO there were two others who did it for me and one was ass

[@FallenEvaneskyro07]

Skill Issue, nah i'm just kidding😂

[@Nokoisgreat]

frist half or second half which one was ass?

[@africansoldier8073]

Lol both ass

[@Alionepiece-z3p]

The TOP 5 of kaido is who defeated him not strongest and don’t give me the shit about those things are the same first he was around 15 or 14 years old ofc he gets beated up by the strongest people seconde kaido wanted to test big mom maybe bc then they naked the alliance

[@Kaido128]

She might be one of the weakest but outside of a few people she can easily pack up literally 98 percent of the one piece verse

[@royjones0824]

Yea I agree like i personally can’t picture big mom getting one tapped or beat in general by a lot of characters that are near “Yonko level”

[@nathanwelling8948]

I agree to an extent, personally I would say her overall strength is close to someone like Saturn with her simply being a much better fighter. People like Zoro or Sanji would simply be too much for her. Zoro can match her in physical strength, his AP is enough do serious damage even without acoc, his reaction time is more than enough to keep up with her, etc. Sanji is simply too fast for her and his observation haki is superior, the only thing holding him back in this scenario is his chivalry.

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

More 99.9. Except for the WG people, I think Dragon, Akainu, Kuzan, BB, luffy, kaido, shanks and Mihawk beat her. That’s 8 people in billions in the one piece world

[@nathanwelling8948]

@@gregorykenmoe3374 Zoro and Kizaru should also be included.

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

@@nathanwelling8948 zoro barely beat king. What are y’all on about? Zoro’s best hit gave Kaido a little scar. Don’t forget roofpiece was 5vs2. Y’all overrate Zoro so much. He suffered against lucci. Maybe admirals can match her. No way Zoro can. If Zoro can then do you mean Sanji is almost as powerful as Big mom? Hell no

[@Dbonesburneraccount]

Big mom is so frustrating because it’s so easy to tell Oda wanted to nerf her almost immediately. Not only does she have an insanely broken devil fruit she can also split the sky. On paper that’s top 5 bare minimum😭

[@Mrstireast]

Ngl she is perfectly fine as being at the top of the verse because that’s kinda the point of a Yonko

[@DS-po6zd]

@@Mrstireast She is nowhere near the top of the verse.

[@truffle6082]

^^^ Big is quite literally the strongest female in the one piece universe, on top of that she is on par with Kaido it took 2x people just to bring her down

[@mustardwithglasses6508]

​@@truffle6082imu >>>

[@DS-po6zd]

@@truffle6082one of the Bums that took her down was one shot by Shanks

[@dionisionat]

If she uses her adv conq haki against Law and Kidd, she slams both of them. For plot convenience she only uses it in Ulti

[@Noelle727]

And she still lived 😭

[@codeless6648]

​@@Noelle727 oda not gonna kill a girl that we probably not gonna see again

[@Noelle727]

@@codeless6648 nah this is why ulti is emperor level to begin with. Ulti was secretly the mastermind of the beast pirate

[@heneraldodzz4978]

She used it against page 1 not ulti

[@dionisionat]

She's a Ancient Zoan, even luffy needs to go g4 to beat her

[@Noob99-zzzz]

I think she's just a victim of not being the last antagonist

[@JT-km6th]

She was never meant to be

[@raimeihakke6552]

Neither is Kaido......

[@Noob99-zzzz]

@@JT-km6th Yes I know but I just find it somewhat hard to believe that shanks is tougher than her by far, like I know shanks is powerful but shanks was still a kid when she started pirating, maybe she is just way past her prime but whatever it's not a big deal

[@JT-km6th]

@@Noob99-zzzz why? Shanks literally fought a stronger version of the character she fought and smoked him. Has better feats by far, better haki by far, rivals the strongest swordsman, has that Roger-esque kinda will, son of a Gorosei. Why is it so hard to believe? Because they share the title of Yonko? Get this Yonko tier out of your head.

[@Noob99-zzzz]

@@JT-km6th Hmmmm, I see yeah your right Gig mom was just a punching bag for the plot and its undeniable that she and her crew are the weakest among the original yonkos...........but I'll admit that its hard for me to believe Shanks being stringer than Kaido.

[@LivingLikeLarry12]

Big Mom should be equal to Kaido, but her execution and the execution of Wano is what led to her characters downfall. She’s just a character that was ruined by bad/inconsistent writing

[@senbon4]

You’re just rambling ,she literally fought Kaido for 3. Days. And tied with him no one else on the roof top is doing that let alone in the series t$454: only a handful of characters that could even dream of doing that

[@sargentskylon892]

agreed

[@LivingLikeLarry12]

@@senbon4 what?? I’m not rambling, the only reason Law and Kidd beat her was because of bad writing. I never said she wasn’t at Kaidos level but she was definitely written like she wasn’t especially during her last fight

[@senbon4]

@@LivingLikeLarry12 hey what’s up dude this reply was for someone else ,cause my comment closely aligned with your analysis ,the person I originally responded to was saying some real outlandish stuff . I must have selected the wrong thing when I replied

[@THED3ADLY7]

Her intelligence really holds her back. If she had a handle over her emotions she would be able to use her abilities better. I also think it’s crazy she never really used Conquerer’s Haki in her fights. Maybe she was stronger before she had all her kids.

[@medkitreliant7277]

I think so too she has 80 kids and she is like 80 yrs old if i remember correctly

[@mstr293]

She did use it vs Kaido but not on the Worst Gen duo. There’s not official explanation but my guess is that since both can’t use ACoC, she got cocky and thinks she can beat them without it.

[@antoinemims3952]

Didn't she use it on Ulti?

[@gravito1573]

​@@medkitreliant7277Big mom is 68

[@demonicstorm4057]

@@antoinemims3952on page one

[@Nephalem2002]

After watching the video, I partially agree. Kaido is undoubtedly stronger than Big Mom but not by a wide margin. Kaido undoubtedly has the higher stamina and higher overall strength. But Kaido would only beat her with EXTREME difficulty. Let’s be frank; Kid and Law won because the plot demanded it and all the odds were against her. They not only had fully awakened Devil Fruits that basically hard countered her, but Ontop of that, they were, unlike her, able to think on the fly, being a doctor and engineer respectively. She had, everything against her, and despite that, left Law and Kidd in a state unable to battle after they zoned her off the Map.

[@boomer4044]

I agree

[@xyberlust]

I'd say kaido beats her high diff and extreme diff if your really pushing it, in terms of AP, speed, BIQ, IQ, durability, Endurance, Stamina.. its Kaido, plus he has better and stronger acoc along with having future sight while also being faster?? yea he's definitely a tier above her in terms of actual power

[@nikjovan4816]

The Law and Kid vs Big Mom fight makes Big Mom looks so much worse than she is. She can obviously use ACoC and let's not pretend that enviromental factors didn't play a huge part in her defeat. In a neutral location with no hole to drop her through or bombs to help them she defeats them. I believe people underate just how much Law and Kid had to do to defeat her. She got hit by like 4 Shock Willie's, a Puncture Willie, two Damned Punks and was still smilling and getting up + bombs + falling through a hole + lava. She is fucking crazy.

[@robinn384]

The fight made her look good honestly she didn’t even get knocked out

[@nikjovan4816]

@@robinn384 Yep, I wish more people would see that.

[@JT-km6th]

Bro stop the glaze, it's an absolutely pathetic display and she is now a bum, end of story

[@warcrabcyber9908]

Kid and law didn't knock her out, her haki surrounded her like a cloak and it was increasing in power when she fell off, kid and law win was an environmental win. Had big mom been able to fly or knew geppo kid and law would have died. Both of them were taxed and weak after using their awakenings with no energy remaining. It's a poor victory to be honest It's like if luffy lost to blueno in a fight because blueno managed to blow out a platform underneath him causing him to fall into the sea then he drowns

[@mstr293]

@@warcrabcyber9908Big Mom is technically a Kaido without flight nor fight IQ.

[@galaxtus48gaming43]

Not only does Big Mom have my favourite fruit, I also like her morals as a character and her belief in justice, so in my opinion she may be a antagonist but not a villian after all she wants to unite all races in the world and create a utopia

[@MedicEne]

Power scaling in one piece is a joke, the writer doesnt really care about it, this is why we can see someone like Mihawk struggle against vista, or see him struggle to hit a pre time skip luffy, yet he is cannonically one of the top in the verse. Same way we can see crocodile who got beaten by a pre gears luffy, managed to hold Mihawk back from chasing luffy in marineford. Characters in one piece are as strong as the story needs them to be. Base luffy was fighting against hybrid kaido... and then gear 4 luffy was struggling against that same kaido, it doesnt make anysense lol just enjoy the ride

[@matthewelvis5221]

Don't use Mihawk as an example, he clearly was not trying dude

[@johnss9114]

you imply big mom fought kaido at full power while kaido fought her at his weakest. another point I would like you to explain is why she's at most snakeman luffy. and if snakeman luffy used any adv haki against kizaru. cuz we saw g5 luffy go toe to toe with kizaru at first and in the later interaction completely embarrased him. you seem to forget most of this guys don't fight. for one thing kaido who you say has his top 5 has been on wano doing nothing the entire time. yonko don't meet each other to fight so her saying i'd have beaten whitebeard can imply she thought he was at his prime strength.

[@leonjustleon]

Literally looking for something to watch while I eat, perfect timing gang🤞🏾

[@medkitreliant7277]

Facts same hahaha g looks twin

[@ihopespaceisedible330]

😭 bro if your top 3 in the verse or only a select few can beat you then YOU ARE POWERFUL. Even if you have those 2 or 3 ppl in verse that would hit u with the “you good bro? Wanna continue?”😭

[@omarfarah-q6e]

its among the yonko in the yonko she is the weakest [excluding buggy] no shit shes strong

[@generalyousif3640]

Narrative is more important than feats That fact alone makes most of your claims unreliable

[@CDISDGOAT]

bro what

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Ok so after all the narrative points I brought up… Why is Big Mom equal to Kaido?

[@generalyousif3640]

@@GLOCKTOBER I will be honest with you Oda wanted to portray big mom and kaido as equal to each other with Kaido as the greater of two equals. However, despite that being Oda intentions, he was not able to do a good job when it came to distributing the feats equally among them which left big mom “ a gag character” to end up getting the short stick Feats are sadly something Oda doesn’t care about so in the end of the day they mean nothing to the the narrative implications outside of keeping the story consistent. A prime example is characters like Sengoku, Blackbeard, and Garp. While their feats are not that crazy compared to what we seen, everyone respects them because of Oda narrative intentions with them

[@calebwhite304]

The problem with "narritve" arguments is that its just your interpretation, oda didn't tell your thats so thats just your opinion on it

[@generalyousif3640]

@@calebwhite304 but it is possible that I may or may not know Oda on a personal level So it’s all always a possibility

[@hushsilence8932]

Nah, she also uses advanced armament. She's capable of utilizing Conqueror's Coating and Ryou simultaneously as evidenced by her interaction with Page One. More importantly, she slams the shit out of Luffy. Kaido was stated to have grown weaker post Yamato fight. Also, Luffy himself stated using Haki too much drains it, Kaido had been spamming Haki all raid in advanced forms. Thirdly Luffy also stated himself that being full on food resets him to Full power. By the time he made it back to Kaido, Kaido was weakened and Luffy was at full power. This also extends into Zoan awakening recovery, which reset his power back to full on an even more weakened Kaido. So while we're scaling Luffy to Kaido, it's in very bad faith, ignoring the context of their fight and the circumstances surrounding it. Kaido is far above any other Yonko, so putting Luffy there is clearly biased as Luffy couldn't even handle an Admiral without catching him off guard. On top of that, Luffy barely managed to outlast Lucci, within 30 seconds of KOing him, Luffy was already in old man form. Another thing is Luffy only having 5 minutes to fight in Gear 5th, and are we seriously saying Lucci and Kizaru lasts longer than Big Mom who went 3 days with base Kaido? The list should go this way. 1. Kaido 1.5. (Mihawk) 2. Shanks 3. Big Mom 4. Blackbeard 5. Luffy 6. Buggy 7. Old Whitebeard

[@dontknowhat743]

1. Shanks 2. Kaidou 3. Blackbeard 4. Luffy 5. Big Mom 6. Old WB 7. Buggy

[@JT-km6th]

Oldbeard? You must mean Cancerbeard. Oldbeard is the strongest of all of them.

[@JT-km6th]

​@@dontknowhat743the gap between Luffy Nd Big Mom is 2 tiers

[@dontknowhat743]

@@JT-km6th Not really. BM is portrayed as being equal to Hybrid Kaidou with her homies prior to her absorbing her lifespan. That same Hybrid Kaidou was overpowering G4 Luffy. BM also has her Lifespan-Amplified form (as mentioned before) which is an even bigger boost in power since she and all her Homies get bigger and stronger. Luffy would extreme diff BM.

[@boomer4044]

So Kaido was weakening himself? I should have known. I was rooting for him the whole time.

[@KingJinzo2125]

Maybe I’m tripping, but it’s very clear that Oda has a baseline power rating. Yonko have always had the highest power but their lack of numbers and lack of willingness to work together keep them down. The admirals don’t have the absolute raw power that the yonko have, but their numbers make the marines as a whole equally as powerful. Obviously they’re some outliers (akainu, Garp, Roger,) but the general theming fits. Otherwise the marines wouldn’t have freaked out like they did when whitebeard and shanks were meeting, and it wouldn’t have taken the entirety of the marines to beat an old, sick whitebeard

[@333game1]

Oda himself said they are equal in power! They fought each other for 3 days on equal terms! She has crazy devil fruit battle

[@captainmalcolmreynolds1526]

Current luffy is going 50/50 with kaido . He’s not getting stomped

[@shaquillesommerville4060]

It’s funny how Kaido can legit say Joyboy will be the one to beat me in a fight but for some reason the fanbase will go out their way to make it seem Kaido stomp. It’s like saying Namek arc Frieza would beat Ssj Goku if Frieza wasn’t fatigue.

[@Divinedelulu]

The main two reasons why big mom is weak 1. Her mentality 2. Plot armour

[@SHQIPEGHO5T]

Nahh we got Big Mom controversy before GTA VI 💀

[@O1DsLeNdYwHiTe]

If Lin Lin was mentally competent, she would be a lot closer to Kaido with her toolkit.

[@plus-delta4477]

15:21 bro knew he had to clarify INSTANTLY. Can't let THOSE fans get a way in. 😂😂😂

[@howtopronouncechange]

Big Mom might be the weakest, but the gap among the Yonko is by a very small margin. Most fans would agree that Law and Kid won for plot conveniences and not by sheer brawl and power. All the odds are against her. First, her opponents are way more intelligent than her and she's becoming dumber and unstable by the minute. Second, their awakened DFs, especially Law's, hard counters her. Third, the plot is against her by nerfing her abilities and limiting her attack pool. I do think that Oda accidentally wrote Kaido and Big Mom to be too strong that he was forced to reveal Nika in a sudden powerjump manner and had to nerf Big Mom because he can't come up with a reasonable plan to have Law and Kid defeat her despite awakening their fruits. Even if BM is the weakest, it would take Shanks hard to extreme diff to defeat her. Yet Shanks one-shotted Kid in a blink of an eye.

[@omarfarah-q6e]

tbh we dont know much about shanks all we know is that he is a yonko so fans tend to scale off that

[@blengdiabloed7335]

nobody talks about how Buggy IS the weakest yonko replacing Big Mom. I think it speaks volume that Luffy replacing Kaido and Buggy replacing Big Mom is ironic.

[@rinmartell2678]

What? Where is that coming from?

[@raimeihakke6552]

Yooo, Moria didn't get close to destroying a island. He cracked the surface And we can see a very small part of the land . That's a very disingenuous statement

[@joebama8225]

The fact that so much drama is going on, my guy had make the title "The Big Mom Situation is Crazy". What a legend.

[@coolbeans3752]

Here's the issue with Big Mom. Were told she's strong and equal to Kaido, but what's shown destroys her portrayal. Franky driving on her face. She got kicked down a waterfall. Despite the fact, that SHE CAN FLY! Robin pushes her down the stairs. She throws tantrums over food. She's treated as a joke and punching bag for the majority of the arc.

[@bajscast]

She was so scary in Whole Cake, but in Wano she's just a joke...

[@omarfarah-q6e]

bro in whole cake big mom was a menace

[@raimeihakke6552]

Love the video!!!You've got a couple things wrong about Tiers and levels imo. 1. The names aren't fan-made. The names were assigned to these tiers because they were the established levels of power one piece. It worked this way because the levels follow a progression not because everyone in those tiers is the same. For example, Yonko commanders have consistently been shown to be more powerful than people like the Tobbi Roppo, who have been shown to be consistently stronger than people like the gifters. So it would be reasonable to use those terms for the tiers. 2. Everyone on the same tier is not equal to each other. I don't know where this idea ever came from. And any tier lists regarding any topic, being in the same tier does not mean you are equal. The problem becomes when people see something like yonko level And assume everyone there is exactly the same, when in reality, a tier Is a spectrum. Say Yonko level is 100-85(Please don't take these numbers seriously. They are just being used for example). Kaido could be a 98 and Big Mom could be a 87. There is nothing wrong with using this logic as long as everything underneath lines up.

[@ndibunwapeter9013]

If yonko level was 80-100,imo it should be like this 🤷🏾‍♂️ bb = 97( mainly due to narrative, portrayal) Shanks = 96( feats and portrayal) Kaido = 95 - 96( feats, portrayal and statements) Luffy = 90 ( feats, portrayal, narrative and statements) Bigmom = 86 ( feats and portrayal) Oldbeard = 80 ( feats ) Buggy = error.

[@raimeihakke6552]

@@ndibunwapeter9013I would personally have BB between Luffy and Mom but I like it . Just Let me be super duper clear, I was just using these numbers as an example. I did not put real effort into them lol

[@boyboilNEO9055]

If pyrocynical was transported to one piece:

[@FallenEvaneskyro07]

Is kinda hard to compare them since when u really think about it they are empereors because they wield different kinds of power, in Big Mom's case political power and connections shield the empereor as much as it keeps her influence far and wide, Kaido's army on the other hand has quite the amount of chemical weapons and such a big and disposable army, thing is Big Mom fought outise of her domain far from the assitance of not only her connections but even her own crew/family and Kaido was not only taken by surprise with most of his army drunk but at his own home where they couldnt really bomb and poison themselves, they were effectively nerfed by circunstance and conspiracy so we never really would've won against them in their key terrain of power

[@heroldjaras9909]

i think blackbeard is the weakest. he had a hard time against law. but big mom is also one of the weaker yonkos.

[@reudiger2001]

I'm kinda confused right now! BB didnt had a hard time against Law. He tanked one hit from him because of his ego and then ended the fight instantly with Black Vortex

[@nikjovan4816]

Blackbeard had a hard time? He was only hit by Shock Willie because he came riding in on Stronger through the air and didn't know Law had an Awakening that could reach him from that distance. If they both started to fight each other on the ground in a 1v1, which is how we should judge these fight when we rank characters, Law wouldn't have even landed one hit on Blackbeard. Blackbeard would've counter him immediately and essentially neg diffed him, because Law is so reliant on his Devil Fruit that once Blackbeard takes it away he is done. Then your entire perception of BB would change.

[@Mosaic-xerox]

BB is the weakest now, he literally gangs up on people everytime, if you are considerably weak, BB becomes very confident

[@relishtoko2877]

@@Mosaic-xeroxthen hes just smart hes not gonna run ones when he can jump and he knows he can

[@dontknowhat743]

I'd say Old WB is the weakest but if not counting him, BM is the weakest. Buggy is easily the strongest of the Yonkos. Slams all of them at the same time.

[@JeffersonOliveira-dq5go]

Oda himself said they are equals, basic reading comprehension. They fought for 3 days on absolutely equal terms. Big Mom probably didn't go all out either. Kaido's top 5 are enemies, Bigmom is an old friend/sister. In my interpretation she is on the same level as Kaido if not higher.

[@TakenGTs]

Yeah, power scalers always take it too far when the narrative is literally screaming the answer 😂

[@申月営無営月無営有申]

No

[@jakubjunak1195]

theres also a statement in ace novel that all old 4 yonkos were equal. Power scalers will still use mental gymnastics to prove how law is somehow weak, all those people are secretly zoro fans hidden behind a mask trying to downplay anyone but zoro and his opponents. I never saw someone hating on big mom and lucci at the same time

[@xyberlust]

they're equal only in base, Kaido has 2 other forms, Hybrid and Drunken Hybrid, and he has way way way way better feats, she also lacks future sight and better acoc.. she lost to law and kidd.. kaido would blitz both of them before they even realize it.. they are not equals, and she is not higher

[@xyberlust]

@@jakubjunak1195 dawg they're equal in name and somewhat in power, there's obvious discrepancies, for example is big mom as strong as prime whitebeard? hell no, but I thought they are 'equal'..? even that statement just doesn't work when you actually consider their feats... g5 luffy would absolutely dogwalk both law and kidd, and kaido was fighting this luffy, yamato, zoro, law and kidd while holding up an island.. yea they are not equal.

[@B00MR0ASt3D]

Big mom still claps Black Beard but the rest is valid

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Who the hell would call you a Misogynist for calling out A FICTIONAL CARTOON CHARACTER?! What the hell bruh. 🤦‍♂️

[@GLOCKTOBER]

You’d be surprised 🙄🙄🙄

[@Coffeeplease69420]

The thing about Big Mom that holds her back so much is her deteriorating mental state. When she was in her prime, I'm willing to wager that she was the only pirate capable of rivalling Whitebeard and Roger due to just how overpowered her fruit was.

[@jackhoover2088]

This narrative is just untrue. She is at almost the exact same level of power as Kaido. The only reason Kidd and Law beat her was because she is the worst tactician I’ve ever seen. The fight against Kaido was a draw and was a serious fight, they have a narrative that parallels them and fought at the same level in base form.

[@faceagain5703]

I agree except the big mom below gear 4 acoc. bcs kaido didnt fight full power bm for 3 days. its stated by both to be basically a casual spar of yonkos. Luffy needs gear5th for any emperor outside of buggy and the issue is that u CAN make an argument she can outlast luffy s timer in gear 5 If luffy uses his ultimave move I dont think big mom is surviving but still we didnt see her get koed on screen to know her limits in durability/endurance.

[@gravito1573]

"Big mom's situation is crazy " it is. At the end Big mom was just a generic vilain. Ofc she was very strong, but I feel like Oda could have demonstrated that a little bit more

[@russellcast1749]

The Big mom on screen is definitely the weakest of the og 4 but, she's the longest reigning emperor and according to Oda himself if there's a yonko system during Roger's era then the 4 would be WB,Roger,Shiki and Big Mom so that has to mean something right? All in all I think Teach is the weakest peak for peak but I think that's intentional for him to be the top dog by the end.

[@xvingar6318]

Big mom in the present is a borderline yonko, she was definitely more powerful back in her days but has lost her edge over the years. She's very unpolished & sloppy I'm pretty sure even Kaido says so, I think that's what Oda was going for with her, she's a entitled lazy yonko so she is naturally the weakest & dumbest

[@burtkocain6846]

The Luffy vs Kizaru thing never made sense to me. Somehow Kizaru can literally blindside ACoC Snakeman, but gets TKO'd be a single named G5 attack? The only way to fit this square peg into a round hole is either 1) Luffy went full Blackbeard and completely underestimated Kizaru initially, or 2) it was always just a speed thing - as soon as Luffy landed a hit, Kizaru was toast.

[@jamestamsitt5806]

We don’t know if Snakeman was necessarily using Conqueror’s Coating and he was able to Blindside Snakeman due to the brightness of his light and the sheer speed of his acceleration

[@xyberlust]

snakeman was not using acoc, unless implied it and also luffy wasn't using future sight.. he's arguably on equal speed with kizaru while using future sight especially if you consider the speed amp from using acoc

[@KingJinzo2125]

I believe it was always a speed thing. I think Oda tried to convey that both 1: G5 luffy is op but he still has limits 2: kizaru isn’t used to taking really big hits due to him speed blitzing everyone, so he’s a glass cannon

[@Chunkyloops]

It seems like the big factor that ultimately makes big mom the weakest Yonko is because of her lack of mastery over haki, especially in comparison to kaido who had to use it to stay alive sometimes or give him an advantage. Big Moms devil fruit is op, yes, but as kaido say, Haki trumps all else. After a certain point in the power scaling of one piece, if you suck at haki mastery, then you're only going up so high on the tier list.

[@animeprince204]

Blackbeard was struggling against Law, who needed Kid to help take down Big Mom and she was still about to pack both of them up until bombs.

[@Re-Bourne]

Base Luffy beats her and I wouldn't mind explaining why I believe that.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

explain...

[@dontknowhat743]

Please do.

[@cblin1978]

Please do

[@JT-km6th]

G4 Luffy beats her, base just got a few hits from an unseious Kaido. Serious Kaido would slap the base Luffy that gets overrated.

[@dontknowhat743]

@@JT-km6th IMO, even G4 wouldn’t win against FP BM. Even in her base alone, she was portrayed as being equal to Hybrid Kaidou with all her homies who was overpowering G4 Luffy numerous time. She also has her Lifespan-Amplified Form on top of that so I’d say Luffy needs G5 to defeat her.

[@chestnutters9504]

With Shanks overwhelming AP he would literally have to be made of glass to be weaker than big mom which he’s not. His durability is probably as strong as Zoro/Sanji. Big bum gets annihilated by the other 3 emporers mid diff.

[@olahisawsome]

Big mom is the strongest emperor!! She started a nation that's still under her childrens rule Her armies are still standing at whole cake They had to run away in whole cake She also has the best spy network that was mentioned during zoe She has a better economy, She has multiple different resources at her disposal, and she has the most islands under her commanded It's lunacy that people are disrespecting big mom like that

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I agree but she's herself is not as strong as the other individuals.

[@olahisawsome]

@GLOCKTOBER Okay, those are not the only qualities of an emperor

[@xyberlust]

@@olahisawsome her entire fleet would get wiped out by Kaido's beast pirates. she's not as strong as the others.. including her fleets.. that's just how it is

[@olahisawsome]

@apostilicia The entire beast pirates got wiped out by a starving nation, a couple old samurai and one group of pirates, while big moms fleet Took on the germa kingdom, The sun pirates, and Straw hat pirates that did a sneak attack AND HER FLEET STILL STANDING! We don't know her nation after blackbeard's attack, but we know for a fact that Kaidos nation and army are gone.

[@xyberlust]

@@olahisawsome dawg what are you even about? 😭 remind me again who beat the all stars.. was it the fodder samurai? or the strawhats. 1. the beast pirates lost a ton of their troops due to Queen 2. the fodder samurai can not hang with the all stars, Sanji bodied Queen and Zoro bodied King 3. Kaido and his entire beast pirates were literally fighting against Oda 😭 tf did you expect.. for them to win? lets be fr here.. 4. the beast pirates were fighting Law, Kidd and Luffy + their fleets + samurai, + their own soldiers who switched sides.. so yea stuff went south.. if you put all the beast pirates against Big mom's fleets.. Big mom is getting wiped off the map, Katakuri is not hanging with King, Cracker is not touching Queen.. its not close

[@Leo.827]

All the yonko being equal just falls apart when you think about Buggy and how he solos all of them

[@bcbloxxer9734]

big mom is out of her prime

[@Synnamon27]

Big Mom and Kaido went for days in a fight they literally called “trying to kill each other” then came to a draw. Kaido, a violent war-loving megalomaniac who lives for winning battles and is notoriously impossible to negotiate with, took up an alliance with her instead of finishing the fight. Any Big Mom downplay is invalid

[@Synnamon27]

The “top five” thing is a misconception, those are people Kaido considered to have had the potential to be Joy Boy. Evident by him saying “how high will your ceiling go” and later completing that thought with “so you couldn’t be Joy Boy either”

[@Synnamon27]

The “he fought in base” thing is also a poor argument. If Kaido could have beaten Linlin by going into his Hybrid or full body forms, he would have just done that instead of forming an alliance - this argument is the product of meathead scaling without factoring how a characters personality affects their actions

[@calebwhite304]

​@@Synnamon27then are u trying to argue hybrid kadio was relitve with a base bm with 2 homies? Also kaido literally saids how long has it been scents I've been in a serious fight

[@Synnamon27]

@@calebwhite304 im saying that the idea that Kaido could have just popped his Zoan forms and outclassed her doesn’t make sense. Kaido alone is portrayed as willing to kill his own children and allies, unwilling to compromise or negotiate on what he wants, and loves to finish a duel. So if Big Mom is so far below him that he could have popped his Zoan and go to a level she can’t reach, why didn’t he?

[@calebwhite304]

@@Synnamon27 no he respects his strongest subordinates but as also they are relative in base yeah

[@friedpancakes266]

Let's put this weakest Emperor claim into a perspective we've seen play out in real life There is a man named Brain Scalabrine, who had a brief career in the NBA. He was not impressive in compared to his colleagues. It was to the point that many average people claimed they could beat him in a game of basketball. Scalabrine, tired of the backlash, accepted these challenges. Even if he was being called the worst player in the NBA, he was going undefeated in this string of average players challenging him. Being the weakest Emperor is like being the worst player in the NBA. Yes, you are the weakest in the group, but you are still better than everyone other than those few in your group. Buggy himself negates this video's reason to exist entirely. Being an Emperor is not a bestowed title, it's a societal consensus. Big Mom ruled the underworld, having just about every facet of the world's economy under her direct control. Her economic stranglehold on the world is what led to society calling her an Emperor of the sea. It had nothing to do with strength, though it didn't hurt her reputation at all. Buggy has his legendary reputation and his good luck. Kaido had the single largest unified military outside of the World Government. Big Mom had a chokehold on the world's economy

[@ZuddyRayF]

With respect, you presented an argument, but you didn't actually prove anything. You simply shifted emphasis to certain narrative elements over others, downplaying other elements, just as others have done on the opposing side of the argument. Kaido could be more powerful than Big Mom, but the notion that it isn't close is contrary to all the available evidence. IMO, Roger was by far the weakest Yonko by the time One Piece started, due to his health conditions which prevented him from even using Haki. Law and Kid could only defeat Big Mom through strategy, not power.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

What available evidence?

[@ZuddyRayF]

@@GLOCKTOBER The same evidence that we’re all evaluating. The reason people are coming to different conclusions is because you are placing emphasis on certain things while placing less emphasis on others.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@ZuddyRayF what am I not putting emphasis on?

[@ZuddyRayF]

​@@GLOCKTOBER - You put emphasis on irrelevancies, like Big Mom saying 'That thing' with respect to Kaido. You can't discern anything from that comment, yet you say this is clear information that Big Mom is not equal to Kaido. - You cite battle IQ, which is not an indication of strength. It can be a factor in assessing overall formidability, but not raw power. - "That was pathetic, Linlin." That's again, totally irrelevant. Both Kaido and Linlin underestimated their opponents. You make logical leaps that this means anything other than that Kaido was disappointed in her performance against fighters he thought were too far beneath them. Big Mom was wrong, Kaido was wrong. The story doesn't indicate anything other than this. - 'It's clear that Big Mom couldn't go past Snake Man Luffy'? On what planet did you make this assessment? During the battle between Odin and Thanos, Odin remarked that he hadn't faced an opponent like Thanos in centuries. Yet he fought Surtur (far, far stronger than Thanos) several times previously. You are overemphasizing the wrong elements of the story. - Kizaru is stronger than Big Mom? Uh, no. That's not how the admiral system works. It takes multiple admirals to defeat a 'Classic Yonko'. The admiral system is designed to stalemate EACH Yonko, hence why Yonkos teaming up is considered a threat to the World Government. It took three admirals to push back the power of the weakest Yonko (at the time), Whitebeard. The strongest Admiral, Akainu, needed to weaken an already-dying Whitebeard before he dared to approach him. - Yonko-level status as a measure of power only became suspicious after Buggy, and to some extent, Blackbeard became members. Buggy is coasting on the reputation of people like Linlin and Kaido, who had decades of history to establish their reputations. Honestly, I'd say about 80% of your argument is pretty weak and more rhetorical than substantive, even if your conclusion that Kaido is stronger could be true. Even then, Kaido would being the first among rivals. Kaido under no circumstances outclasses Big Mom according to what we know. One thing is very clear, however: Big Mom, knowing Kaido's power, did not fear him.

[@DermotBrophy]

well stated

[@Karim-rq8ul]

It's hard for me to believe that big mom can be stopped or defeated by 1 admiral

[@themediageekproductions5629]

He did fight Shanks though, at least probably, Shanks is the reason Kaido couldn’t make it to Marineford.

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

Bro i agreed with you until you said big mom= Gear 4. That’s just wrong. Kizaru killed gear 4 in 2 seconds. Kaido only says “do you mean to tell me you’re as great as those guys.” He is acknowledging luffy’s insane growth and potential not the fact that he is better than big mom or dragon cause he doesn’t have dragon on his list. Following your logic would mean that he thinks Luffy is on par with roger in gear 4th? Stop the shit

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I never said Luffy is as strong as Roger I was only bringing up the fact that Kaido considers him a person who can seriously challenge him when he gets drunk like the other five. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he is as strong as them nor does this list indicate much for characters outside of it because Kaido hasn't fought everyone. However he has fought Big Mom yet doesn’t consider her a worthy opponent like Luffy.

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

@@GLOCKTOBER he never said “so you’re at their level now.” He said something more like “are you telling me you’re as great as them?” Imagine a guy he one shot a few days before. Now the guy masters advanced conquerors and ryo which in his words was for the very best. He was questioning luffy’s potential not his strength. He literally demolished that same luffy offscreen. Come on bro. I agree big mom is like 10th on my list but saying gear 4th luffy who Kizaru neg diffed is better than big mom is blasphemous. Gear 5 luffy with his stamina issues barely gets passed big mom for me. He is way stronger but he can’t maintain that form and gear 4 simply doesn’t have the attack power. He showed that against Kaido

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

For me the difference between Kaido and Big mom is future sight and Kaido’s mentality which probably means better Haki cause of stronger will. Big mom’s fruit is probably better even

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@gregorykenmoe3374 I’m not just referring to the top five list. Kaido gets drunk against Luffy and literally says he doesn't know the last time someone could match him and two days before this he fought Big Mom. It was one thing for him not to think about Big Mom in his top five but it's another for him to say himself that Luffy is a better match for him.

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

@@GLOCKTOBER kaido and Big mom are like brothers and sisters. After fighting for 3 days , they had no injuries whatsoever. You can fight your brother but you actually have no idea what it would come to if y’all actually wanted to take each other out. So he probably doesn’t consider big mom as someone he’s fought in her prime. He can just tell she is strong but not as strong as him cause of her haki. He said that to luffy but we know he was going to win. Only gear 5 could win. Kaido is just delusional when it comes to luffy. Cause at some point, he lowkey likes luffy. Take that away. You really believe Kizaru taps big mom like he did hear 4 luffy? Come on. That would mean greenbull is better than big mom

[@WaterKirby1994]

Everything said here is correct, while an absolute monster she's still the 2nd Weakest Emperor behind Buggy because of how she was written in Wano. We saw how easily Law & Kid were beaten by Teach & Shanks despite their somehow winning against Big Mom. Newgate had a better showing at Marineford, & then Luffy & Kaido are explained by the video. I am curious who Shanks replaced to become Emperor & how strong that character was because short of Big Mom coming back to fight Gear 5 in Elbaf the Mystery 8th Emperor is the only way we will ever be able to say she wasn't the 2nd Weakest Emperor.

[@judicious-on-ps]

5:06 in marine ford he did block kiado from going that might be what he means but I don’t understand the thing ab being the first to go toe to toe with kiado part as shanks can or is on par fighting kiado

[@tigerwoman4411]

Big Mom is not weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@estebanbr7596]

The weakest emperor was kaido . I swear to god people be confusing aura with feats

[@sbthesage2100]

Bro said mossed on 😭 he gotta watch football

[@k1ngofel1te6]

Big Mom has the strength, haki, durability, and devil fruit but gets nerfed in battle iq and really PLOT. For whatever reason She didn't kill Law or Kid when they were first defeated, She didnt use Advconq but she uses it on PAGE 1. This shows that power scaling doesn't matter because Oda will have anyone he wants to win for the story's sake. He will also use their powers (if they have any) to make the fight look better. Unless its a known Power Gap he will make two people look like they're even. Someone in the comments saying Base Luffy beats Big Mom, yet he went in G5 to beat Lucci when he should've only needed base/G2G3 Oda had base luffy fight hybrid kaido but Luffy goes instantly into G5. Snakeman Luffy should also been more of a problem for Kizaru as he was for Kaido.

[@Goatjo291]

So fiirst off, i wouldn't say that big mom is weak Her strength is basically relative to kaido's strength. Has all 3 haki types, also has advanced conqueror's which she didnt even use at wano other than one shotting page one Her devil fruit is very versatile + has good hax + big mom can use her devil fruit to take years from her lifespan = boosting her strength overall + her size too, also she can take people's life span which means she can basically live forever Her stamima is also a pretty good thing, being able to go toe to toe with kaido for 3 days non-stop, although their clash werent serious + only base forms Big mom isnt weak overall, she is just a victim of plot, oda made her look like a stupid character + she has acoc yet didnt use it againts law and kidd which means she was basically nerfed by oda, he didnt want big mom to absolutely destroy law and kidd Yeah yeah her battle iq is very bad, cuz she underestimated law and kidd + the strawhats on wci + misery wasnt that weak, big mom just got muted by law's awakening meaning she couldnt command misery to attack or dodge Her durability is basically top tier, she tanked kidd's awakening with like no injuries + tanked kidd's railgun + also law needed 3 k-rooms to break her bones, and the broken bones was instantly healed so she didnt take much damage from that Her endurance is not top tier but still is pretty good, tanking the 3 k-rooms + kidd awakening + rooftop damages Overall: i'd scale big mom at yonko level / gorosei level since i scale yonkos above gorosei, so i can scale big mom at gorosei tier maybe below or above ju peter, saturn and mars.

[@JT-km6th]

I get why you said "Big Mom is a fraud, but not really" she is a victim of the lack of reading comprehension and/or agenda-driven nature of the fanbase. The stans set her up so high, only for feats to dunk her back down.

[@TakenGTs]

Japanese Big mom is my favorite voice actor. I'm not sure why.

[@janm3781]

Not saying that you are wrong about BM being the weakest Yonko, but Kaido's list isn't really an argument here. Going by your reasoning, Garp would be weaker than every one of those people. Which is ridiculous.

[@Fnafmaster1359]

Shadx where my shoutout at 🌚

[@Ctgfsuper]

This man is one of the only one piece scaler I actually trust there scaleing

[@DermotBrophy]

the way you throw about the word casual like its a dirty word because not everyone spend every waking minute thinking about a manga

[@samuelleblanc4331]

Kid would have the fastest death in one piece if he fight kaido (even faster than what shanks did)

[@joeygamingnl2724]

I think you're wrong and I can prove it but it's really complicated. First of all I think the main reason you think Bigmom is weaker than Kaido (or at least to that extent) is due to how you view other characters, not actually just Kaido and Bigmom You say Kaido is stronger than Luffy since he only lost to Gear 5 after already beating him 3 times and fighting a bunch of other characters but Luffy was still more injured and fatigued than Kaido was before their final fight, after all all that matters is how strong the two were at their peak so Kaido's performances against Base and Gear 4 Luffy are irrelevant, what matters is how strong they were by the end of their battle, Gear 5 Luffy beat Kaido meaning during their final battle Kaido was weaker than Luffy, the common argument against it is that Kaido fought way more people and for way longer without breaks but it ignores that Luffy fought Kaido while he was one of the weaker people that Kaido fought, he used Gear 4 a lot, used his Advanced Forms of Haki a lot, including Advanced Conquerors which he had just unlocked but with all that was still weaker than Kaido so while Luffy went all out Kaido didn't have to and Luffy still got more injured since he got knocked out and literally died during the arc while the biggest injury Kaido had gotten was a Zoro reopening his scar which we can see healed before he fights Luffy for the last time, before Luffy and Kaido enter their final clash pre Gear 4 Luffy already is too tired to even stand up straight, then uses his at the time strongest form for a while longer making him even more tired and then LITERALLY DIES, then when he unlocked Gear 5 he still wins when he's at his absolute max in terms of both damage and fatigue already, Kaido isn't "still stronger" than Luffy he's actually quite a bit weaker at this point since even Gear 4 Advanced Conquerors Haki Luffy was doing a lot to Kaido while (again) more fatigued and injured, Luffy is now also seen as equal to Shanks (according to Dorry and Broggy aswell as Film Red which has canon powerscaling), the truth is that Bigmom isn't the weakest Yonko but Bigmom AND Kaido are the 2 weakest Yonko's since Whitebeard also has constant glaze in the pre time skip as the Strong Pirate and being the closest to being the Pirate King, he's stated equal to Shanks and again, Shanks is equal to Luffy You also clown on Oldbeard for getting beaten up by the Admirals when the Admirals are time and time again to be shown on par with the Yonko's, Kizaru was able to tank attacks from, damage and outspeed Gear 5 Luffy and both Aokiji and Akainu should be stronger than him Later you also mention how easily Kidd was defeated by Shanks while Bigmom lost to him and Law, not only is Shanks as I've explained before a level above Kaido and Bigmom but the one shot was also extremely situational, Kidd was already chargin up his attack and then got off guarded by Shanks, this would mean he wouldn't be able to defend as well against the attack as he normally would, on top of that Kidd's own attack exploded on his face meaning he got hit by not only a named attack from a going all out Shanks but also his own strongest attack, all of that while being off guard, on top of all that Kidd is also not one of those monstrous dura and endurance merchants like Bigmom and Kaido as compared to them he also relies a lot on his speed, agility and his assign which can reduce the speed and agility of his enemies, on top of even that Shanks is a true swordsman meaning his attacks would have a very high AP since Swordsmen in One Piece are consistently shown and portrayed to be AP merchants So finally, how strong is Bigmom? Equal to Kaido, there are some loopholes ofc, she does lose in certain stats and wins in others, she for example has better Armament Haki feats, Endurance Feats, Skill Based Feats (like swordskill basically), Strength Feats and has better Weapons while Kaido has better Speed, Observation Haki, Conquerors Haki, Durability and Battle Iq Feats, most of my proof for this comes from their 3 day battle where neither of them really got hurt, you say it's irrelevant cuz Kaido didn't go all out but 99% of the fight was off screen and Bigmom didn't have her Homies (only Napoleon) and didn't have any other objects/people to take souls from and create weaker homies with which she did do against Kidd and Law, on top of that they're consistently stated and implied by others to be on par, one of Kaido's men even says it's impossible for them to lose cuz they have "2 Kaido's" on their side however u can take that with a grain of salt since idk the chapter number and it's a knowledge claim but it is a good example and Oda didn't have that character say it for no reason Bigmom's main downfall is the lack of her agility, speed and battle iq which makes her lose or at least look worse against opponents she shouldn't really be struggling with, as for why Kaido didn't have Bigmom in his top 5, most likely the top 5 is just in terms of Haki since Kaido glazes Haki and everyone there that we know of are strong haki users, it could also just be characters he respects due to their willpower, he could also simply not include Bigmom cuz they aren't really enemies, he doesn't respect her specifically, they were literally allies at the time Oda drew that panel and as far as we know they never had a proper all out 1v1 since their 3 day 1v1 ended with an alliance and neither of them were injured while Oden, who was there gave Kaido a scar

[@bigfourtweny]

Yonko is more based on influence than strength, Yonko is not admiral you have to be a certain strength to be an admiral Buggy can be a Yonko

[@Immortalprisonking]

The only thing that contradicts what you say ur that it’s stated in the story that all the Og 4 yonko we’re relative to each other

[@GLOCKTOBER]

where???

[@Mytakesarepeak]

​@@GLOCKTOBERBig mom has 3 adv hakis + OP df. Not only 1.

[@Immortalprisonking]

@@GLOCKTOBER when garp introduced the yonko to the straw hats at water 7 he said”four most powerful pirates along side Whitebeard” this one can be contentious I remember it being said somewhere else a little more clear cut but this is the quickest one I could find

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Mytakesarepeak how???

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Immortalprisonking The more accurate translation is the four greatest pirates but even if you use powerful that could literally mean anything. If Buggy was included that statment would be the same because he has the "power" of influence and territory.

[@dannytulley3661]

I know he’s capping because he said buggy isn’t yonko level in power buggy is beyond yonko level and can no diff kaido, shanks, Roger and whitebeard at the same time the only person who can match him is sniperking we need a video from him on why buggy is the strongest character in the verse

[@ltsMotion]

Black beard is the worst he is shown more ass and stated to go even with law by canon

[@judicious-on-ps]

I wanna see another big mom vs kiado where he hits one of her attacks back at her with his spiked mace like a baseball bat

[@maadzcat]

I love the video! Keep up the amazing work!

[@jakubjunak1195]

Big mom fought kaido using full power? she didnt use her devil fruit. smartest kaido fan

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Her df uses her own soul which haki is directly connected to

[@jakubjunak1195]

@@GLOCKTOBER doesnt change the fact she didnt use zeus or prometheus against base kaido. So its still base vs base

[@xyberlust]

And yet she still beats every admiral that isn't Akainu or Aokiji.. crazzy(still a kaido, luffy, shanks, prime beard, prime garp, prime rayleigh victim)

[@jammygamez9667]

g4 luffy rooftop still doesn’t come close to bm, yall NEEDA realise law and kidd had plot armour + they didn’t actually kill her, bm is equal to g5 luffy trust me

[@DanielLopez-dv4uw]

How she the weakest when she stalemated the same Kaido for 3 days and nights…Blackbeard got smacked by sulong bepo lmao

[@zelz3011]

Nah because Buggy's too strong. I'll type an entire bible page in your comments. These levels do "EXIST" THE POWER LEVELS ARE REAL!

[@mayankbhaskar8545]

I don't think big mom is weaker than kaido in any significant manner it's just that she's a lot stupider , at least she's forced to be for the sake of plot, she didn't use advanced conquerors once after her clash with kaido , she started wasting her own soul mid fight to create a new homie just because Prometheus said so while there was a perfectly fine Zeus right there, it's just a bunch of senseless decisions stacked onto each other

[@felixbenitez6169]

Yonko it just a Title, and no a Scale on Someone’s Powers.

[@trevin277]

She is perfectly equal to Kaido anyone saying other wise is just meat riding the other yonko they stalemated. And before someone says he didn't use hybrid she didn't have all her homies and presumably didn't expend any life span

[@BLLH-ih6hh]

Whilst I don’t agree with you on how strong Big Mom is(her and Luffy are extremely close), I do agree that the Yonko, Admiral, and PK tiers are stupid, I saw someone put Shanks in PK tier even though he’s a Yonko, I also use top tier instead of them

[@jaxsonace]

why did you put jimbei and sanji up when u said weak straw hats

[@That1Redhead28]

I just wish luffy got a proper fight with her

[@armandjokerkid9637]

I think like you, luffy can beat her with two Acoc "Over Kong gun", it's where I put the Kid "Damn Punk" on Elbaf. So during wano she ate two King Kong gun. She has big durability, strong AP, Speed, with just that she can roll the verse.

[@tongatapu7325]

I can disprove all your points (except the yonko tier debate). You said yourself Base BM = Base Kaido. But just like Kaido, BM can amp herself. You just ignored that. You also never really mentioned that BM got slower and most likely more mentally unstable over time (per Perospero). Marineford Whitebeard would get defeated by BM mid diff, whats he gonna do against all the AoE attacks without consistent Haki? BM is stronger than G4 Luffy and could most likely outstall G5, therefore winning the fight (still an extreme diff fight, tho). Besides legends, only Shanks and Kaido are stronger, but it would still bean extreme diff fight. Imu, Dragon, Mihawk and the Gorosei are too hard to scale. How can you "overrate" a character that many people see losing to Blackbeard, Kizaru or Kuzan? She's easily the most underrated top tier in OP.

[@Unknown-x4k5x]

Yep 100% agree they ignore big mom feats to downplay her and upscale others ,thdy downplay who she fought as well to make her seem weak but in reality thoes who big mom fought are actually just stronger they ignore than bm was nerf vs kid and law and not bc shamks 1 shot kid dont mean he can 1 shot big mom especially when law hard carry the fight vs nerf big mom ,they ignore that big mom haki is equal to kaido exept observation and forget bm atttack speak is equal to hybrid kaido as seen when they did a combined attack,they use narative for others but not bm and more they are just biased towards big mom .

[@Unknown-x4k5x]

Who is the strongest person you think big mom can beat ?

[@raimeihakke6552]

I don't know why you're acting like it's not possible for someone to be a Yonko and not be yonko level. Yonko level has been hyped up in The story explicitly for years. All you need is two basic pieces of understanding in my opinion. 1. Having the title doesn't automatically give you the strength. 2. Just because somebody without the strength has the title doesn't invalidate the title. The only thing that matters is that most characters we consider yonko level would clear the previous tier. That's literally all it takes for the tier to be valid. This is so debated in the community for no reason

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Why are we naming a tier after a title where only MABYE three of the seven people who have it are on the same level

[@raimeihakke6552]

@@GLOCKTOBER Shanks, Luffy, Whitebeard, Big Mom and BlackBeard Would all take each other to a very high-def fight imo. If we consider end of series Luffy and Blackbeard. I'm the only one with the title, not on the level is buggy. I would say that's pretty consistent

[@metaemperor]

0:35 that’s all I wanted to her Alright make you’re case As long as she’s acknowledges one of the top in the verse calling her the weakest Yonko is fine

[@slimmy478-6]

She still stronger than an admiral so.... Cope . Edit: Here we go with the mentally nerf BS kizaru cope again

[@warcrabcyber9908]

Um this is utterly bad , big mom could never be on the level of gear forth, she literally one shot paige one an ancient zoan with conqueror haki coating. Gear forth luffy will run out of energy before even being able to damage big mom. Big mom can literally tank damage close to kaido. Luffy needed gear fifth to even start causing considerate damage to kaido Next reason why this scaling is terrible, kid and law defeated big mom due to a technicality , kid and law were totally drained when big mom fell off onigashima while her haki was increasing in strength, this means she wasnt even close to finished. But she fell off and cant fly. What if she knew geppo ? Kid and law would not have won, this is oda allowing kid and law to win without actually beating her by knock out unlike luffy. Big mom never used conqueror haki coating on kid and law , this was evident for the entire fight unlike kaido that kept spamming coc hits on luffy, this reflects big mom poor battle iq You wrong again about big mom forms. She didnt fight kaido at her strongest either, when big mom gets stronger she also gets bigger by consuming more souls , she didnt use this against kaido in their fight , she also didnt use misery or her devil fruit against kaido. Big mom low battle iq is complemented by katakuri who has high battle iq and future sight Most yonkou fight with their first commanders most of the time Katakuri high battle iq and future sight easily complements big mom power and abilities. This is one of the worse scaling i have seen in a while.

[@neeloreilly7163]

Big mom is the weakest but kaido isnt the strongest at the same time. The narrative paints them as close.

[@aurelion3]

Big mom is overrated?! I can only see that she is underrated, who's overrating Big Mom???!?!?

[@YayoHernandez-b1j]

You got that right big Mom is weak just like Kaido was to say they’re dead. They’re both dead.

[@simpleistic]

big mom high diffs shanks

[@marcopagliarani9338]

Did bro just said that the gorosei are not that strong? Bro they are all beasts

[@rodolfocesar2945]

that tier list with the levels was the most stupid thing i saw in my life. between countless flaws how can people put luccy a tier over zoro if zoro just defeated him one on one? are people still on ennies lobby? About big Mom being the weakest yonkou, yeah she is definitely the weakest. is she even weaker than buggy? well everyone know the big deal in cross guild is mihawk (the only "commander" with bounty in yonkou level), oda makes pretty clear buggy being a yonkou is a gag and mihawk has the yonkou level power and crocodile is the brain. Have you ever saw a yonkou crew where the "yonkou" gets beaten by his "commanders" all the time? but i don't understand why people keep with this stupid argument (like you did in the video) separating OG yonkou and current yonkous, luffy gear 5 clearly showed in egg head how strong he is easily defeating kizaru, the mos important insight you gave is that big mom = luffy gear 4 with COC which i agree, but gear 5 is on another level, luffy is clearly one the strongest yonkou now, also the whole argument of OG yonkou being the real yonkou don't make since WB was nerfed because of age.

[@WaterKirby1994]

Remember when Luffy would get pounded by his crew? Stronger than the Admirals are the Gorosei of which Saturn was the weakest. I question how well Shanks, Teach, or Crossguild will deal with Warcury.

[@orionparsons7631]

Youre wrong kaido went to war with shanks during marineford and shanks won which is why he showed up to marineford instead of kaido because kaido wanted to go to marineford and die to whitebeard and the admirals or beat them all and have a great fight but instead shanks beat him and stopped the war.