Who Could Be A Beast?

[@BoopaKing]

I find the way Kiara qualified for Beast status to be hilarious, as she is such a huge narcissist that she sees herself as the only human on earth, and since she loves herself so much she technically loves "humanity" as she's the only "human" according to her. There are also some theories concerning Nobunaga since FGO states that Demon King is _not_ her strongest form.

[@benduford3746]

I find it hard extremely funny how with all the bs rules Fate or well Type-Moon as a whole has some of the justifications to break them can be really silly, like with the Kiara example presented, she is so narcissistic she views herself as a whole representative of humanity.

[@simonschnedl]

Nobunaga's strongest form is Real Deal Nobunaga.

[@maracabo1176]

​@@benduford3746 Yes because kiara only loves herself and nobody else, she definitely doesn't love a certain deep voiced blue haired author who doesn't get enough sunlight

[@benduford3746]

@@maracabo1176 I’m just agreeing with what Boopa said

[@maracabo1176]

@@benduford3746 yeah I'm just making a joke about kiara being a tsundere

[@raymondyongho5757]

If Beasts are defined as an Extra Class that manifests as calamities that threaten human history for the betterment of mankind, then I’m surprised Vritra wasn’t revealed to be one after release since she seems to fit the bill. In the Santa event, it's revealed she steals Christmas presents and puts the MC and other Servants through trials to see them work hard to overcome adversity. She wants to see humanity struggle, not because she gets off of their suffering *cough* Koyanskaya *cough*, but to prevail and overcome challenges/obstacles. She'd cause cataclysms without the desire for humanity's eradication, and knew she'd always be slain before it got to that point. Not truly evil but a natural phenomenon. In a way, she's the antithesis of Tiamat. As opposed to her Sin of Regression, Vritra represents human endeavor. She believes humans to be weak creatures but can't help but show respect when seeing them persevere. This contradiction along with her being a literal obstacle to overcome as a way to show her twisted love should qualify her as a Beast.

[@julianrobertson1869]

By all rights yes Virtra should absolutely be a beast. However I think the biggest difference between her and the real beasts and what keeps her from being one is that Virtra wants humanity to grow on their own while beasts want to control the growth of humanity.

[@elontusk9167]

So instead of "Sin of Regression", is it safe to say this is a "Sin of Progression"?

[@daltondaily1540]

@@julianrobertson1869 That's really the main thing preventing Vritra from being a beast IMO. She ultimately isn't interested in changing humanity fundamentally. She's just interested in challenging humanity, so it can grow on its own. Goetia wanted to change the very fundamental nature of the world, Kama wanted all humans to be able to indulge in their desires, etc etc. Vritra just wants you to be able to climb that mountain.

[@rotciv557]

I think Vritra is too self aware to be a Beast. She wants to see both humans and gods improve as a whole and she is very careful in how she carries out her challenges to do so. I don't see any individual dead set on being defeated for the sake of their enemy's improvement to ever become a true Beast, as all other Beasts were too hung up on their sin to logically understand why their methods to "improve" humanity were so bad, whereas Vritra seems to understand both humans and gods VERY well. That said, I CAN see Vritra masquerading as a Beast class in order to set up another trial of improvement, maybe in preparation for a real Beast's arrival whom she deems too much for humanity to deal with at that moment. I could see this happening during a .5 event like Seraph or Scramble.

[@semreh12]

i…see everyone here forgets that beasts need to have one fundamental trait, which is “love for humanity” which is something that vritra lacks by default and nature. She puts obstacles and difficulties for humanity because her enjoyment of the struggle and success, not because she has any liking for humanity at all.

[@tobelee6985]

Personally I’d think Pandora would be a good fit for Beast of Shame for what she did. And even more likely too compare to Eve, given how Nasu seemingly avoids to offend Christianity in general and not making any servants from that side of mystic.

[@arche5639]

You do realize that beast 6 is the representation of the biblical Satan, right?

[@philbuttler3427]

Solomon is literally who created Beast 1 and Beast 6 is the Beast of the apocalypse. Christianity has more to do with Beasts than nearly any other religion what are you talking about?

[@cernunnos8344]

They're not making religious figures of any monotheistic religion. No Jesus or Muhammad servants. Tbh Jesus as a divine spirit would be cool but I doubt they'd ever go there. Maybe the apostles are okay ?

[@ปัณณธรประชากุล]

Camazotz being anything other than 5 star is almost impossible(We're talking about the guy that able to "Defeat" ORT, He is literally one of the most powerful servant out there) Lostbelt Camazotz almost has next to nothing to do with Panhuman Camazotz, He is pretty much an OC anyway.. So him being low star because we don't know about him historically doesn't make much sense

[@Starsoulklr]

I suspect if they make anyone a lower rarity of a Beast class it's probably going to be Elizabeth being jealous Nero has a Beast class and wanting it too. Something wacky like that for a welfare.

[@pedrorosa9893]

Cu- a 3 star the face gil(5 star) for a whole night and could have win if had a decent master

[@xolotltolox7626]

Rarity is not really a measurement of strength

[@deathstar6998]

Defeating ORT would not be something achievable in any other instance besides a Lostbelt. And to be frank Camazotz only became a beast because of the events within the Lostbelt and the discovery that his sacrifice means nothing in the grand scheme of things. PHH Camazotz is just a monster not anyone or anything important tbh. His qualification for beast class is a massive stretch because he doesn't represent any other sin besides despair. And to be honest humanity climbs that obstacle every day so yes he would be a low star beast if he was in the beast class. Which is why I am hoping for Alter Ego or Pretender instead.

[@Crimpy_b]

The Real Beast is gonna be the one and only JAGUAR

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

Wish or at least another taiga face

[@elone4567]

​@@yopoxikeweapescai9066archer welfare that wields a wooden gun the summons flaming jaguar

[@NoxarBoi]

I just want to add that we met the LB version of Prometheus(who was fused with half of Hephaestus, meaning Prometheus was a Machine God), who revealed that the hands we fight (the ones that drop the Ember/Blaze/etc of Wisdom) are based on Prometheus’s arm.

[@benaressu]

Something interesting about Douman failing to become a beast is that not only he has no love for humanity, but he might also not love himself or see himself as humanity, cuz like Kiara was able to become a beast by sheer narcissism and seeing only herself as humanity Also on TV tropes i saw suggestions of Seimei being a potential beast, maybe cuz he's kinda like Merlin in a way, but we have really small info on him(fgo plz release him, we need more lore about him)

[@deepsoul8034]

Reminder that Merlin actually loved humanity and isn’t a monster like the fanon the fanbase believes Merlin LIKE TO THINK he is a monster but no, he feels very guilty of the path he more or less gave to Artoria, and fate stay night true ending is him atoning for that

[@benaressu]

@@deepsoul8034 That's true about Merlin(really don't like how fans downgraded his character as just haha cck wizard), I was just saying that maybe Seimei can potentially be like Merlin(Seimei i think irl was called "Japanese Merlin") in a way and maybe can qualify for a beast(well mostly according to TV tropes), but the problem is that we have zero info on him, who knows maybe fate Seimei hates being compared to Merlin

[@semreh12]

@@deepsoul8034 oh no, the fandom’s got it right to say that “merlin” is a monster… but that’s because the one that doesn’t care about humanity is PROTO-merlin. she pretty much meddles and interfere simply because she finds it amusing or interesting, but really doesn’t have any feelings or care for humanity like regular merlin

[@cernunnos8344]

​@@deepsoul8034I'm really confused about Merlin after Babylonia, is he actually apathic/ sociopathic ? He claims he's a monster with no emotions who just enjoy watching humans succeed (which I guess is positive but it's still creepy) and that he helps out of his own interest rather than goodwill. But he's also half human ? Is he just making this up so as to not admit he wants to help ?

[@flamesoul3778]

Beast Shakespeare: exists Oberon: "can I-" Guda: "yes." Oberon: *cracks knuckles and starts cackling like a madman* Beast Shakespeare: "I don't feel safe"

[@cernunnos8344]

I thought Oberon wasn't actually Oberon ?

[@Venom1846]

I think it's pretty obvious the player character in FGO is gonna become a Beast, and Mash will then have to become the Grand Shielder that guards Humanity from her senpai. It just screams true ending from Nasu

[@Estheriam]

A real Tales of Berseria moment. Just gotta have them in a constant Dream because of a second Mash-face.

[@darkstorm2579]

I’m pretty sure none of the Extra classes can be grands outside of specific exceptions.

[@cernunnos8344]

What the hell 😂

[@cernunnos8344]

​@@darkstorm2579 fate universe rules are just exceptions on exceptions anyway

[@ragingwolf8968]

Okay so there is actually another beast VI in fate already. Manaka Sajyou in Fate/Prototype summons what’s known as the beast of 666, or the beast of revelations. It’s referred to as Beast VI/G with the G standing for (I believe) Gomorrah while Draco is Beast VI/S with the S standing for Sodom. Though Draco only came about after Arthur killed 666 so idk if we’ll ever see it.

[@christof6809]

you also forgot to mention this: in Arthurs Trial Quest he said that when he wanted to enter Avalon after slaying best 666, Merlin stopped him and said that beast VI is still alive, so he is traveling across the multiverse until he finally slays it. He says that beast VI has split into 2 forms an L and R form, these are the ones he is corrently looking for. Nothing is know about each of them only what arthur said: L posesses "noxious gas" and R has a "lingering scent". The thing is that ther is also (what you said) an S (this one is Draco) and G (this one is 666). Acording to Arthur S/G will appear AFTER L/R have already appeared.

[@cheesepuffsthings]

@@christof6809 There is no Beast VI L/R. The L and R in question refer to Beast III, not VI. The confusion comes from that the two were referred to as L and R with no Beast number specified in the quest. However, we know now their titles as Lapse and Rapture means no other Beasts have L or R as suffixes as they specifically belong to III, just as S and G solely belong to VI. And we already know III and VI are linked due to Draco sharing the sin of Depravity (written with the same kanji as Lapse) with Kama. So what Arthur is claiming is that Beast VI will only appear after Beast III L and R have been defeated. Which has happened. If a Beast VI L/R existed as such, they would have had to have been killed off screen for Draco to manifest.

[@mahdie.9007]

​@@cheesepuffsthingsYet in Fate/Prototype, the Beast that Manaka was cultivating is possibly the Beast VI L/R. In Silver Sky, Arthur was able to blast the Beast into fragments which were known as L and R. He was sent to the Grand Order universe where they have already appeared. In events of Arcade however, Sodom and Gomorrah would be that universe's Beast VI. But since Grand Order had the Lilim Harlot event, Sodom is now canonical to our universe. Which means that there's a huge chance that the other fragments of Beast VI may show up in a separate event or arrive in Ordeal Call.

[@cheesepuffsthings]

@@mahdie.9007 The beast Manaka was growing is Beast VI/G. L and R refer specifically to Beast III Lapse and Rapture. Even if there *were* more fragments of VI, they would use different suffixes.

[@mahdie.9007]

@@cheesepuffsthings True, plus there are more other biblical Beasts that could take up the seat once Harlot was resolved. Tho Beast VI is still slightly obscure

[@bleach3413]

Kagutsuchi could be a beast having grief over the fact that he burned his mother alive and his father tried killing him. He can represent regression.

[@ollin-tonatiuh6418]

Merlin has proven that you can be both a Grand Servant candidate and a Beast candidate. And so I will make the argument that Tezcatlipoca would fit perfectly as an Evil of Humanity. Tezca and Fate's version Vritra have similar goals, they both put humanity through hardship to see them overcome adversity. But while Vritra does so by being a physical world ending calamity, Tezca does it in a way that makes him more similiar to Angra Manyu. Tezca would create physical illusions of horrible monsters to test the courage of any unfortune human that happend to cross them at night, and he was pretty brutal about it to the point where the only alternatives to not overcoming his trails were either death or a life so unlucky that you'd *WISHED* he had killed you. Some scholars believe that Tezca represented the idea of changing the world through conflict, and in Fate he believes that conflict is necessary for humanity to grow and prosper, a believe that the actual mythological Tezca also seems to share if we examine his actions. One of the biggest concepts that Tezca was associated with was "Introspection". Both Huitzilopochtli and Tezcatlipoca we're gods of war, but while the former represented the external war (A.K.A the war we are all familiar with), the latter represented the "internal war", the war agaisn't the internal warrior. He would tempt humanity to commit evil not because he wants to corrupt them like Satan does, but to see them reject his temptations and instead choosing to be the best version of themselves. And as a matter of fact, one of Tezca's names "Yaotl" means "Enemy", the enemy in particular being the internal enemy that resides in all humans A.K.A the "darkside" of humanity that is all of its worse aspects such as greed, hatred, the uncontrolled version of pride, selfishness and many others. I could very easily see Tezca manifest as a Beast in the story that would force humanity to overcome both his external and internal brutal trails, and those who refuse to overcome adversity will be punished with death or even something worse. Tezca even has a child form both in the mythology (Tepochtli and arguably Cuitlapanton) and in the actual game (Blue Tezcatlipoca), so he already fills the requierement of a Beast having a child form!

[@ollin-tonatiuh6418]

Although of course, now that Tezca is stuck being the Grand Assassin I don't think we will see Beast Tezcatlipoca anytime soon, not to mention he doesn't seem to want to change humanity fundamentally like Beasts do. He doesn't want to control the growth of humanity, he just wants to challenge humanity and for them to not be filthy cowards.

[@nechocat1234]

BB also has that mentality of wanting to see humanity grow out of conflict, and she uses more extreme methods like the luluhawa incident when she puts us on a time loop and fused with both an outer god and a creation goddess

[@ollin-tonatiuh6418]

@@nechocat1234 I haven't played the Extra games, but BB doesn't seem to love humanity like Tezca or the Beasts do, so I'm not sure she could be a Beast candidate.

[@uteriel282]

@@nechocat1234 humans are just toys for bb. she doesnt have any real love for them as true beasts do.

[@Dioscuri1113]

when I heard Prometheus I was wondering whyy; as he is traditionally considered to be a good guy. But the way you explained it makes a lot of sense but I think you could add to it further saying he wants humanity to be independent. One way to view the Prometheus is taking the power away from authorities out of our control and giving it to individuals, anyone can make fire; so maybe Prometheus might want to Give humanity knowledge as well as to take away the barriers protecting us, like the counter-force for example, so that everyone is truly free to do what we want (which would almost definitely be a bad to an extent). His want for everyone to be free would also mirror the fact that he was imprisoned for such a long time as well, and in such a painful manor, so maybe he thinks humanity is trapped and must be feeling a similar pain. As for number is could see beast 2/L. He mirrors Tiamat in the sense that in some versions of the myth he is the creator of humanity, so maybe sees himself as a father. Making it that one beasts is the mother who wants her kids to regress to far back, whereas the father wants his kids to progress to far forward. Dammit Klidge now I want him to be a beast but know he never will, why did you give me this knowledge!

[@elontusk9167]

I actually think Prometheus should be an Avenger class, since the class card image perfectly fits his situation of being imprisoned and being bound to chains and revenge being associated with fire (which Prometheus just so happen to also be associated to)

[@rotciv557]

Prometheus always being portrayed as a good guy doesn't really matter given that both Merlin and Amaterasu are also always portrayed as good people (in spite of Merlin being an Antichrist) and yet Fgo has stated they are both Beast candidates (And also made the latter much more sinister).

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

​@@rotciv557 Amaterasu isn't really a good guy or a bad guy. She's the ruler of the heavens and the supreme being. Shinto doesn't really attach an inherent morality to godhood, and if you said Amaterasu is good or evil any priest would laugh in your face. When she's happy, good things happen; when she's mad, bad things happen. That's all there is to it.

[@rotciv557]

@Random yes, I know all of that. I was moreso thinking about pop culture versions of Amaterasu when I was saying that, like Ammy in Okami, who are typically explicitly heroic portrayals whereas FGO went with a much more selfish "absolute force of nature" angle that is more traditional.

[@cernunnos8344]

Prometheus as a Beast 2 being a Father deity is genius tbh

[@Lexadin]

I honestly love the idea of Beasts of Humanity, the fact they love humanity is such a fun concept. That last one is wild tho.

[@rumle5]

Personally, I just really, really want a BEAST Angra Mainyu, having the theoretical become reality, taking the form of a shadow or as Sakura I don't know nor do I fully care which, either would be interesting. Since we don't know what kind of BEAST Mango can become, it'd be an interesting Event to explore in the game, maybe have the story of Heavens Feel become the Event and have Mango as the final boss. Also I kinda really want a 5 Star Angra Mainyu please Lasagna I beg of you

[@greyhood3447]

Same i need my 5 star mango

[@rumle5]

@@greyhood3447 The highest of quality in Mango's

[@higonakamura1236]

I was about to comment about it too. I think he could be Beast V since Fuyuki is still on fire in FGO timeline for...some reason. Plus, his famous quote is "The penalty starts with *five* " foreshadowing anyone? And uh...does his title is Beast of Retribution? I saw it from various sources but I'm not sure it's canon or fanon.

[@rotciv557]

Tbh a more interesting way to to do a Beast storyline with Angra IMO would be to set him up as an alternate Beast II candidate who already lost his chance due to Tiamat taking that slot, so instead we have to face off with *Ahura Mazda* as Beast V and Angra is our main ally in dedeating him.

[@yammoto148]

Technically since Angra represents all evils of humanity and not specific ones he technically could be any beast or even an amalgamation of them at his full power. Representing all of humanitys sins is pretty much his deal.

[@JudgeAlan501]

I could see Shakespeare not as a beast himself but instead as someone who is trying to create work with a BEAST. Example: Eve & Lilith are not BEASTS on there own but old wigglestick somehow fuses them together & with there combined goal to rid humanity of the fruit of knowledge creating a juvenile BEAST of Shame.

[@Azothify]

Beast of Shame is obviously the protagonist themselves. The shame for all the Saint Quartz spent trying to get their favorite servants. And also why KoD wanted to make them their final tail.

[@JPsBenicio]

Funny goat man say things on the internet, my favorite series

[@SuperAmaton]

Very interessting idea with Shakespere, I like more modern Servants that could be Beasts instead of ancient gods and monsters. Two i wanna add are Nobu, who a lot of people already called out, but my own candidate would be Mansa Musa, as someone who gives out such lavish gifts and simply by traveling causes entire economies to crash by accident.

[@HitsujiMamoru]

The last one is absolutely insane lol All things considered, it is not unlikely that they drop a bombshell somewhere in there saying Shakespeare is a descendant of Yaldabaoth/Demiurge, for example. Mozart's family is related to the Solomonic demon Amduscias. Anything can happen now.

[@cernunnos8344]

Its worse than that, Mozart says HE was meant to become Amdusias but he sold his soul to MUSIC before Amdusias took over so someone else become the demon pillar. I love Mozart lmao

[@jvts8916]

Of course, a class becoming playable means that joke servants will eventually manifest. Therefore, I imagine at least one of them would be a form of the main Tamamo, presumably based on the Moon Crux as her story arc in Extella was that she had given up on facing Sefar and decided to just have fun with her Hakuno until Sefar wiped them all out. For an even more absurd concept, Ultra Ranmaru Z.

[@elecrom_9757]

If they are doing Joke Beasts Learning with Manga!Gudako HAS to get released.

[@yep1486]

no, no more Tamamo nor Tamamo forms nor Tamamo-look alikes!

[@rebeccalotto8001]

@@yep1486 would you legit want drown in sakura faces instead?

[@HyperDragonX]

Honestly, i wouldn't mind Akidna being a playable servant. It would give Type-Moon to play around it story and give Medusa(And Both her counter parts) more story relevance as well ger sisters.

[@Nurple17]

*Echidna, Mr President

[@cernunnos8344]

Akidna ? Ah kid nah

[@Archigosai]

Bias speaking here, but i think a summonable Fou would be a Merlin face, and i would love to have more servants drawn by Taiki

[@cernunnos8344]

Well Fou already looks like Merlin

[@ArtanOliveros]

As a Filipino, my Beast candidate would be General Antonio Luna. He was an intellectual and a genius military strategist who was the driving force in the Philippine-American War. Luna is arguably one of the most intelligent military leaders in the South East Asia during his time. He had a deep love for his people and his soldiers, even sometimes escorting injured soldiers out of active war zones. One of the most famous military feats of his was when a unit he personally formed, the Luna Sharpshooters, was able to terminate General Henry Lawton; US's highest ranking casualty at the time. Somewhere down the line he worked on the philosophy of "Independence or death" that also influenced his men in battle. But he was cruel, needlessly strict, abrasive, and rageful. That caused ill-feelings towards him to manifest on both sides of the war. In addition to surviving countless battles, he was once exiled but eventually returned to the Philippines and when he was assassinated he persisted for awhile after being stabbed countless times and shot at before succumbing to his injuries. After his assassination though, the Philippines experienced a series of losses that eventually lead to the fall of the first Philippine Republic. With all that, I can see him manifesting as a juvenile Beast in different international historical revolutionary battles, influencing resistance forces with his brand of "Independence or Death," disrupting the flow of pan-human history. And because of his history, his influence would inevitably lead to infighting and the collapse of those areas regardless which sides win. If he ever was a Beast, I think he'd represent the sin of Rage as it's the emotion he most exercised and it led to his and his forces' downfall. Also, I can see him only exclusively summoning Berserker, Rider, Saber, and Archer servants to fight the protagonist. Berserkers being the men directly under him. Riders because of his specially made units making execellent use of horses and trains. Sabers because he also made use of bolomen. And Archers because of his Sharpshooters. I don't think he'll fully mature into a Beast because he'd rather kill himself instead of submitting to tyranny, even that of his own.

[@erict.miyahira6241]

This is really weird timing for me because I'm reading an FGO/Dark Souls fanfic called "Fate: Souls and singularities," and the people at spacebattle forum are debating if "Ash", the Ashen One (the player in DS3) could be one or what "sin" could he represent, the leading one being "mercy". I really recommend it. It currently has 165 chapters, and we are in the middle of Singularity IV.

[@MadHermit95]

Ew, a spacebattlers in the wild /jk

[@FreeWeirdGal]

I could see Hester Prynne (the protagnist of A Scarlet Letter) being a more 'modern' beast, the Angry Mango is confrimed to be a potential Beast too so a fun event could involve him. No idea who, but an idea I've always had was the concept was a Beast that was related to Commerce. Also one of the Hassans as a Beast, if Merlin can be both a Grand Servant and Potential Beast, then so can Gramps.

[@exudeku]

Never heard of that book due to me being non-American and hōri shitto it looks good. Thanks for the suggestion!!

[@rotciv557]

We already know that Capitalism is an Outer God, so having a Beast of commerce seems a tad redundant

[@simonschnedl]

Ford as a Beast, eh?

[@nervmeister]

While she's currently a component in Ashiya Douman's saint graph, maybe Itzpapalotl could make the cut since, in addition to being a star-eating demon, she presides over infant mortality and childbirth as the ruler of the realm where humanity was first created, according to Aztec myth.

[@persomiissleepy]

I've mentioned this before but I think an excellent concept for a beast class servant that could also be summoned as a Pretender is Prince Lindworm and have him be connected to the world serpent Midgardsormr/Jörmungandr. Similar to how Altera is connected to Velper 02. He'll likely be a beast based around regret or sorrow. Likely because of him being aware that his existence causes others pain from him his wanton destructive tendencies from him devouring others. His "love" for humanity more comes from the fact he has never felt loved to begin with. With him wanting to make a genuine connection to others to fill a hole in his heart. Only for him to kill them anyway thus the cycle continues. His voracious appetite and it being said that when he releases his tail Ragnarok begins is likely why he's a beast. I imagine that in order to keep him sealed they split him into pieces. Prince Lindworm is the part that has retained some part of his humanity. The one that genuinely loves others despite his curse. Niddhogg, the dragon that eats the roots of the world tree, would be the part of him with his more monstrous tendanceces. And of course what remains of Jörmungandr, which is the part of him that despises humanity and believes it should be restarted at square one, purposely wanting to start Ragnarok so they can be reborn.

[@reidmoore8754]

Honestly one that instantly came to my mind as someone who could be an extra Beast (If we wanted to make more due to alternate realities) would actually be Abigail Williams. Since she goes off with the mysterious man and each Abby that we meet (The one from Salem, The one we summon, and Summer Abby) are each different-ish entities I could see one out there that wishes to protect humanity by becoming what she believes is the best protector of light an Archangel/God. The reason I feel it would work for her is mainly from how she acts in the Summer event. She wants to protect the master from the scars left behind from these "dream" servants who will flicker away at some point and leave the master in loneliness and the pain of loss. I could see this thought process being skewed in someway that makes her wish to protect everyone under her heavenly light. So she would basically start like a normal Abby (Maybe toss her a Halo or something) and ascension 3 would be this adult Angel Abby (or possibly Eldritch Angel) and it will take showing her that humanity can protect itself without needing her (similarly to how Summer Abby was shown that the Master can handle himself with the eventually of losing his servant friends forever).

[@mstarlight4102]

so basically Abby if she was Krimheld Gretchen, got it.

[@reidmoore8754]

@@mstarlight4102 Never saw Madoka Magicka but sure lets go with that.

[@Succubus_L0li]

This wouldn't work with Abby that we know because all she cares about is Ringmaster(Master) If they make her grow a bit more, with bigger boobas(because it's a requirement so that her banner sells) then she might get a new personality trait along with her new appearance which could be a sin of humanity, though I personally sees this as unlikely because i'm sure she'll just stop herself from straying too far as she is a devout believer in God

[@reidmoore8754]

@@Succubus_L0li That is fair basically this would be one that has traveled through with the mysterious man or is a different one entirely, maybe she becomes just how the others of Salem became being so devout that she is willing to protect everyone from "sin" itself with her power. Maybe like in the video she gets convinced by Eve, The Serpent, or even Lilith to be an "Angel" that protects the world she cares about. There are many ways you could go about it with her and thats if you wanted to go with making a beast of a servant that is already here.

[@midnight4956]

The fact you said Shakespeare could be a potential Beast candidate made me think of this plot real quick. You know what I would love to see a Singularity, where we do meet a Beast Candidate, we fight them and they outright say to the player after they get defeated by them “I may look like a Beast to you, but the real Beast is the one who wrote me into this position in the first place.” well they say that while slowly fading from the world and the moment they do fade and when the world warps or *tilts* Shakespeare is in your party for the Singularity. But he’s the one writing this story right next to us, he’s not writing it normally it's all in his subconscious until he gets sees inconsistencies in the story along with the group in the Singularity and is willing to be the enemy of the player to write this masterpiece that will bring a tragic close to the grand story of the humanity. One that can be told to the next species that evolves and gains consciousness no matter if they can understand his story or not.

[@MegaBichiX]

okey, we need that last theory as an event, but the fina boss is just regular Shakespeare with bis year 1 caster balls and a Beast symbol over his head. Also, the event enemies all have that King Leer jester sitting on top of their heads instead of just the spriggan

[@JakeMatthews-OnLo]

Aleister Crowley is such an enigma and I’m surprised he doesn’t have a bigger role in Fate when he’s the one popularized Sex Magick, and strived to the beast 666. Maybe one day he’ll be added as a servant. Honestly his role in the To Aru series makes it feel like he’d be a titan in any story about Magic.

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

His influence is very obvious if you're into the instalments that focus on Magi, but Heroic Spirits are broadly limited to over 100 years ago, so he's not going to show up as one in FGO.

[@pedrorosa9893]

Maybe as pseudo servant of zoyken

[@xolotltolox7626]

​@@FishfaceTheDestroyerCosmos in the Lostbelt happened in 2017 in JP canon, and Rasputin has not been dead for 100 years there

[@saxor96]

Even as an honorable mention, I think Aleister Crowley is a very interesting figure to qualify as a Beast, even fill the VI/G spot if it wasn't already taken by Prototype's. He very much fills the role of a false prophet, and some of his self invented mythos are linked with the Whore of Babylon (as Babalon).

[@kuronyaa-san]

We, the players, are all William Shakespeare! We want to write an epic play!

[@temyar55]

I'm gonna say BB. The reason is very flimsy but in the first CCC fight you do with her there is pink static covering the middle of the screen. If you find a video and slow it down it says Advent Beast before it gets covered. Now this could mean nothing but I'm thinking it could mean something. Though BB only cares about her senpai so it probably wouldn't work out. Also Summer 3 happened.

[@rotciv557]

BB would be a shoo-in but she quite simply lacks the love of humanity necessary to qualify, she is far more focused on individuals like Hakuno and Ritsuka to care too much about the whole.

[@inari8039]

I don't think that's too farfetched, it might not be love but her purpose is to protect all mankind. Also in CCC her goal was to grant every single wish on earth, which sounds good at first glance but gets twisted once you think on the implications, similar to a Beast

[@yep1486]

@@inari8039 that's the moon cell speaking

[@Estheriam]

In the CCC SERAPH event (if this is what you're talking about, I assume), that probably pops up because of Kiara. If I recall the event correctly, BB was technically Kiara's Servant and, ironically, the Pseudo-BB (Big Bad).

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

Gilgamesh explicitly calls her an Evil of Humanity in CCC, so yeah, Beast BB is a thing.

[@Solqueen86]

When it be hilarious and absolutely horrifying if Emiya became a BEAST candidate due to alternate routes?

[@definitelynotshanque]

I love the Shakespeare theory, it would be a most perfect conclusion to our time with him like Romani was.

[@madambutterfly1997]

Typhon is already in the Fate universe in the Lord El Melloi novels

[@memoryofsalem4474]

I wasnt expecting William Shakespeare but honestly, thats truly a wonderful idea. I genuinely hope someone in Lasengle has the same idea as you and we end up getting him

[@greyhood3447]

I desperately want angra to be summoned as a beast class and I think it'd be cool if in that manifestation his powers more align with the zoroastrian god/demon rather than him as a human. Like in becoming a beast he throws himself fully into being all the worlds evil and discards all of himself from his life? Like we know angra remembers his his life to some degree and I think it'd be cool if by giving up that scrap of an identity he would be able to embody the mythical angra mainyu we know rather than who he actually was. I'm probably explaining this poorly but yeah that's my pick

[@madambutterfly1997]

You completely forgot about the nemean lion as one of echidnas children since it's described as being the brother of Cerberus and the Hydra

[@julianrobertson1869]

I want to see whatever beast angry mango+ Sakura was supposed to become. Cause like from what I've read about angra mainu he's like nyarlethotep from persona 2, the manifestation of humanity's shadow all the things we don't know or don't want to admit to. Actually come to think of it that's probably just BB. So I want to see beast BB. Although shed probably just paint a Moon Cancer stick over her saint graph just like she did for Foreigner BB and Ruler BB.

[@anime_walls2099]

I predict sieg if Fafnir took over the beast of Greed

[@Cyrus21100]

BB does have the Beast Card when you fight her in Seraph...she's twisted enough and has a skill referencing the Antichrist/Draco Nero, Ten Crowns

[@lunerblade13]

14:15 just had a startling thought. What if Shakespeare is the god ryuunosuke believes in.

[@elecrom_9757]

Fom my understanding Lostbelt Camazotz is not the Deity Camazotz at all (not even the Lostbelt Version of him), so the myth of the God Camazotz doesn't really impact his capabilities. In Olympus the Hephaistos unit there mentions that Prometheus and he are the same (he was called Prometheus in the past) depending on how you interpret that it could mean that no independant Saint Graph of Prometheus exists.

[@notabigfanofthepsychozakuhg]

It would be pretty sick if NAMELESS or Emiya (archer) became a beast. Y'Know since Tamamo and Nero got beast forms and the trio are the servants for Extra.

[@onnopleaseno649]

WAIT ALIESTER CROWLY DID WHAT

[@timothyzadeng6133]

They need to bring back Goetia

[@Beansbeansbvcx]

Beast eresh doesn't have child form

[@yoshikageramsay9480]

Marisbury could very well be a beast He both has a love for humanity wanting to see it progress and has the means to destroy it also hes dead too so he pretty much fills all the requirements

[@ohwell1547]

Honestly where the game's story is heading, he could be the the true final beast.

[@acnologia1020]

Gilgamesh as a beast class would be a amazing his love of humanity by removing gods twisted

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

What would his "sin" be in that regard?

[@Trigeno]

@@FishfaceTheDestroyer maybe humility as he decided to live as a mortal after losing the elixir of immortality and ended up living his life to the fullest til he died. It would be a play on the sin of pride and it could tie into his departure from godhood (maybe his plot would have something with belief as in religious faith) though I don't know how he would try to force humanity to change. He never seemed like the type to make others change and just kinda wanted them to abide by his beliefs or disappear from his sight

[@pedrorosa9893]

I imagine Fo as Arthur pretender

[@monte8901]

Honestly I can see Proto Mordred as a Beast, his few lines is like Draco about civilization and despair, and IDK, something makes me feel like he would be a Beast

[@rotciv557]

ProMo I feel is so obsessed with Arthur that he might just not care enough about the rest of humanity to count.

[@Starsoulklr]

I have a suspension of they'll make a Summer version of Koyanskaya as a Beast which isn't what this video was about but it's been nagging me since Draco was added.

[@Zero-lb7nl]

Like the other classes, the beast classes will be the fake servants that are there to make the number in the classes, the ones that can be this are true demons, dead apostle and the 72 demons of solomon with the first one coming on the 18th the levi (flauros)

[@theguy8614]

Whore of Babylon, Draco, and Coccinea are all different forms of Beast VI/S, Fou is no longer Beast IV, and Camazotz is Beast I Lost so there are actually a lot more than 2 open slots for new beasts

[@weeb0202]

gudako could be a good beast if she ever died she destroyed the lostbelts to protect humanity you could twist her disire to be so corupted that she will destroy everything that is a threat to humanity including its own free will but thats just my opinion and in temple of time if i am not wrong she admited that she is't even fighting for humanity just for herself and i havent finished or read most of the lostbelts since i dont have time to read just do the quest and if i have time then read it

[@goomyiscute777]

Z from Xenoblade would qualify as a Beast He's a manifestation of the people's desire for stability, and their fear of change. To him, the Endless Now is a useful, entertaining, and sustainable system that takes advantage of death and celebrates life. And since every "victim" gets to live again and again, why should it matter how they die in any one life? In short, to Z, stagnation is preferable to an unknown future that could lead to oblivion, even if that stagnation itself would eventually cause the same oblivion

[@darkstorm2579]

If Fate ever did a crossover with Xenoblade, I could see Z being a Beast due to his nature.

[@ONTOE0]

Hmm… I’m thinking of calypso even though she’s pretty minor as Greek figures go. Daughter of atlas,kept odysseus trapped for several years , offered him immortality, let him go. Name translates to either “conceal the knowledge” or beautiful sight”. Been imprisoned by the Greek gods on a island for some reason.

[@cosmikchaaya]

After everything Camazotz did, him being a welfare 4* would be an insult to him.

[@Jo_youwhatmate]

I'd love a beast Shakespeare Alas I don't believe Lasengle gives a damn about him enough to follow through with that but it would be neat

[@MoebiusX9]

Damn the Shakespeare idea goes hard

[@StevoPL]

Us having Beast Izanami would probably freak out Erice.

[@deniltofreirejunior832]

I want summable Camo so bad

[@reidmoore8754]

So I thought of an idea after watching this and some time, but one thing you could do for an extra beast class characters would be to include some sort of Beast of Humanity from the Servantverse universe. I mean we know about the primal goddess that Spishtar is but they never really talk about if there is more than just her out there for her pantheon or any other deity level entities. They could have other ones out there for whenever we do Saber Wars 3 the Sabering. Would kind of be nice to add more "Threats to Humanity" things so that we could give XX some love.

[@jirou6228]

First male beast playable when 😪

[@herosjourney9205]

Twice Pieceman is a likely candidate for the Beast Class with his goals of uplifting humanity through eternal war/conflict.

[@Arjun_2180]

Prometheus should be a saver class servant, change my mind

[@phillipfrost6770]

I'm calling it now Beast Liz welfare for Halloween at some point

[@matiasaleo5498]

I feel that Lucifer/Satan can be a Beast, or Apofis, the inmortal Serpent of Chaos of Egypt mythology.

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

Lucifer is confirmed in LB5 to be a Beast, but she's an alternate form of Aphrodite. It's complicated. Satan is not the same being, but rather a category of beings, and we've seen multiple Satans already - Mephistopheles, Ishtar, Jalter (no really), and Hassan of the Cursed Arm's cursed arm (no REALLY).

[@leogazebo5290]

The angry mango is something I wish becomes a full fledged beast.

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

PERCIVAL IS ALMOST ON NA UUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH

[@silentdespair]

what about mothman?

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

Lacks the spiritual mass. Douman demonstrated that you need to be of a certain magnitude as an existence in order to develop a Beast factor.

[@hmmmooops]

Sensei, could I be a beast?

[@klidge]

I believe in you

[@hmmmooops]

@@klidge Thanks, I will now spook you in the Tiamom banner

[@cernunnos8344]

The Shakespeare theory is insane and defo something Type Moon could cook

[@fabriziocossio3336]

We all known well that, no matger what class exist Liz is getting a version of it sooner or later

[@lunerblade13]

I always had this idea of an April fools style fou spirit where he has a passive that gives him NP gauge each turn, his skills on top of their actual effects increase or decrease his NO gauge, and has a negative NP gain stat when attack and an extra large NP gain stat on getting hit. The idea is that while in combat each turn fou is continuously building up energy and needs to either attack or use particular skills to burn off that energy. Because when you start a then where fou has 100 percent or higher NP gauge you are forced to use his NP that deals serious buff striping damage to all enemy akin to two Stella’s. The catch is is that not only does using this NP take out Fou but also your entire frontline. Fou is a walking time bomb meant to take out everyone on the field under normal circumstances.

[@diogoflores5926]

I think kazuradrop can become a beast she just need the holy grail in foxtail.🤔

[@needledealer9971]

Now I wanna see Beast Eve vs Grand Berserker Caine

[@husseneluis9163]

Her: "i only date tall people!" Me: "well, tall people are demons!"

[@durandus676]

Amaterasu where every sentence is said in a different tamamo’s talking pattern. I think it’s going to be Ibuki, there was an entire chapter about how she was a prime candidate but limbo had to mess around.

[@diogoflores5926]

There is also Angra as a candidate. And the theory of Ritsuka become a beast.

[@nivajaranjit4322]

first graduate shakespeare from caster balls

[@connor8610]

Surely izanami has love for humanity as we have erice who's mother is izanami, no?

[@MegaBichiX]

so you are Telling me a shota batman is a matter of time

[@sidrezig4449]

I just realized most of the beast classes are female ( besides 3) the grands are male.

[@tuck295q]

Charlemaign Ruler version is super beast candidate

[@desmondmalone438]

5:27 so a primordial Tsundere goddess

[@desmondmalone438]

5:46 Yep personal 4 and her myth told me that

[@desmondmalone438]

4:14 I’d love a Tiamat And Eve conversation now

[@samarius_art_and_games]

Beasts having a normal Saint Graph isn't unusual or unheard of. Look at Nero. Also, Proto Merlin does, in fact, qualify for Beast.

[@DogDudeRulez]

interestingly enough prometheus and the serpent are considered trickster gods (a god that causes problems) and like many trickster gods are the ones responsible for granting humans some form of wisdom or knowledge stolen from the realm of gods. Because all of these legends are just stories that steal ideas from each other if they do implement a beast of knowledge, you could essentially wrap them all up into one big god of chaotic inspiration.

[@whammycheng3758]

I hope to see Larva/Tiamat's swimsuit version as a Beast. Though I shouldn't expect much given how FGO can pull a fast one.

[@pedrorosa9893]

I think sisifus could be a cool idea, as the beast of eternety

[@CastoriAlter]

Sisyphus*, Eternity*. But yeah, that is cool idea

[@pedrorosa9893]

@@CastoriAlter sorry not native English

[@CastoriAlter]

@@pedrorosa9893 it's ok

[@Skywolfhd20]

what would shota goetia even look like? kid solomon?

[@Kriviach]

watching this after the 8th anni reveal be like: >we most likely are going to get one of them as the anni servant lol, lmao even

[@lilsmurfy8349]

Yknow what I think someone like Geronimo could be a candidate for this like idk why I think that but I think it could work

[@skytree842]

I feel like another possibility would be Jesus himself, seeing as that's pretty much his entire thing. Similar to the reasonings for Eve and Lilith, I could see it potentially being that the forgiveness of sin leads to people believing they can do whatever they want with no consequences. The only reason I don't really see it happening is because we really don't have many Abrahamic-religion-based servants to begin with (Martha, David, and Salome being the only summonable ones and I'd much rather see Solomon/Goetia, Noah, or Moses in first). Though seeing as there's still a good few people we could do from those religions, I could see us potentially getting a story involving them in the future.

[@blueboltbomber8786]

Okay so... What about that time when Traum rolled around and people were speculating that Holmes was a secret beast-