Behind The Servants: Wandjina

Cool Wandjina Facts: I am aware that we have had Australian rep in FGO before but they don't count.
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[@christianrivera1946]

Was not prepared for the WANDJINA jumpscare

[@jkosch]

Once source I found specifically said “Depicting the Wanjina in their contemporary art is a significant way in which Wanjina-Wunggurr people educate their children and grand-children regarding their cultural beliefs, their individual and group identities, and their connections to country. It is, moreover, a way for Wanjina-Wunggurr people to convey to the outside world that Wanjina-Wunggurr society is distinct, strong and enduring..” To distill most of what I could find (an Australian FGO player I know did dig trough quite a a few declarations and articles): The only rule for depicting the Wandjina is you can't do traditional art (or claim doing traditional art) without the right permission. There isn't anything for cartoon or such things because it's not a bastardization it's an adaptation. Some seem happy about representation, as it keeps their traditions from being forgotten, others are more skeptical of representations outside traditional art but are not as much against it as they are against mimicking traditional art without instructions.

[@zvreaper16]

Australian of Aboriginal decent here, you got most of this spot on, the only error I noticed was at 2:05 the aboriginal tribes date back 40,000 years not just 4000

[@ILOVETOKOYAMITOWA]

hey just wondering, what do you think of them adding this spirit? I see a lot of people talking about how horrible it is that they added wandjina when only trained elders can portray them, but what do you think?

[@zvreaper16]

@amongusbadungus quick disclaimer: Before I give my opinion, I don't know which tribe I'm decent from as that knowledge was lost to my family 3 generations ago. While the tribe that worships Wandjina might have a problem with it due to how uptight they have been in the past, I feel as though it's a great way for people like me who are disconnected from their heritage or for people who are from outside Australia to learn about the first nations people and cultures. To get semi-political for a second, I also feel the controversy surrounding Wandjina is partially fueled by the upcoming referendum regarding Aborigines

[@ILOVETOKOYAMITOWA]

@@zvreaper16 oh, thank you a lot. I was just curious to see what someone of native Australian descent thought of this matter

[@danteastral9665]

​@@zvreaper16 I couldn't agree more, the wonderful thing about the franchise is the rediscovery of the myths and legends, and though not all of it correct, they usually do put much research on the explanation and do what they can with all information. Not to mention that the way their lore works is that it is the subconscious of humanity that creates these forms for servants, perfect example is Wandjina at this moment, though it is disclaimed that it isn't a space helmet it is because some believe it that the subconscious of humanity formed it even if its incorrect, just like poor Vlad is made into a vampire despite never being one.

[@Pon-Pran]

7:36 Oi, clearly the drop bear automatically makes her the strongest Servant to ever exist 🤣

[@Deadblank109]

Wait a sec, I swear I seen you somewhere sir

[@tonyinfinite5174]

You know with all this Servantverse stuff I surprised that a Servant wasn't a main character alone in a Fate work

[@TheRedJadex]

Fate:Lost Einherjar stars a Servant couple as the MCs.

[@tonyinfinite5174]

@@TheRedJadex along side a Master it's a good Read but I mean a lone Servant as a protagonist it's something that hasn't been done yet.

[@Truck-kun11]

If FGO is willing to add characters from other countries, I hope for a Brazilian character in the future, the folklore and myths here are pretty crazy and would make some cool servants.

[@RealLifeIronMan]

I'm curious. Could you give an example of a character I could read about?

[@Truck-kun11]

@@RealLifeIronMan Saci, Curupira, Cuca, Boitata, etc...

[@jkosch]

@@Truck-kun11 Why not Lampião? Would be an interesting relatively modern Servant.

[@Truck-kun11]

@@jkosch He'd probably be a Saber

[@zakeeros1663]

I feel like that Dom Pedro I (of Brazil) would be THE option for a brazilian servant, considering that he is THE guy that helped the country to become independent.

[@pxlpancakes]

"Cool Wandjina Facts: I am aware that we have had Australian rep in FGO before but they don't count." Even Cooler Wandjina Facts: While Rasputin and Summer Cnoc are Australian due to Bahloo and Yaraan-doo respectively, outside of FGO they are in fact not the first "Australian" Servant. That honor goes to the unnamed Servant that teams up with Anubis in Fate/Requiem. Or at least, I suppose it TECHNICALLY goes to them, since Erice and Koharu deduce that they are "probably" from Australia. Sadly, as we all know, Requiem is currently sitting in release limbo, so at present we're likely to never actually get their identity.

[@yitan14]

that shouting at 4:48 jumpscared me lmao

[@arkaua]

Klidge please put the OST you use in the description for everyone who wants to hear it, you should always credit music, even if it's just for the sake of viewers who liked it. For anyone reading this, it's called ぐだぐだショップ大炎上 ～帝～

[@hawaiiantrain6372]

if you wanted to let people know what the song name is, why not just keep it simple and just say its the gudaguda3 shop theme?

[@arkaua]

@@hawaiiantrain6372 Yeah fair enough, either way it gets the job done and you just being able to copy and paste to find it

[@Lexadin]

One of the reason I love the Fate franchise in general is how they introduce me to figures I otherwise would never know about. Now as for the controversy, thank you for explaining the problem. And I'll keep myself out of this aswel, until the affected people have spoken.

[@nicolamarie7966]

Klidge???I just noticed that your eyes?The mixture of colors/hazel green???CONSIDER ME ATTRACTED 🤭😩

[@ghostshrimp5006]

Definitely feels like a Windygo situation

[@hellrider22393]

I think this newly made servant is amazing, if they spread the roots of this game, it'll last longer, more stories more gameplay

[@Yaboyazrael]

I shall call her Aussiemandias.

[@JohnSamuelarcadiagt5]

Thanks for acknowledging the cultural sensitivities of this unit. I think you’re the first FGO youtuber I’ve seen do the research and recognise the issue properly.

[@ARandomGuy24]

"Cool Wandjina Facts: I am aware that we have had Australian rep in FGO before but they don't count. " Wait who?

[@klidge]

Minor spoilers: Summer Knoc and Kotomine both have Australian servant components

[@danween]

the first thing that comes to mind is Quetz and all the LB7 servants. they’re all white despite coming from South America

[@radal0505]

Funnily enough Mexico isn’t even in South America, so the only real Southamerican representation we have is the Inca gods or Jaguar warrior

[@henriquebecker4453]

Just like the saints and gods in FGO, the in game Wandjina have very few semblance with the traditional paintings and thus shouldn't be considerate a crime even for the tribes standarts. Because the game chage so much in universe history in comparison to real life history they make it very clear what actual history is like and what the writers made up, in this sence they can make whatever bs character they want and just slap any myth they like on that character.

[@alexanderlowery1471]

From what I understand from the translated event is that the fgo Wandjina is an elemental like Yu, but is from space that arrived during the age of dinosaurs. After meeting the Chaldea during the last summer event and received a gift she wanted to repay the favor. Frankly the whole thing with XX is probably just her thinking it’s the servant verse one. Wandjina doesn’t remember what she described at all.

[@christineannclerino4008]

Uh those aboriginals are dark skin colored when Captain Cook expedition in the landing at the northernmost of the Australia and land there with his few crew in a ship.

[@Fureiji88]

So basically it's not that type moon didn't want to include Australian based servants, the issue is more how protected the mythological and historical figures are and the inclusion wandjina let alone the idea of an entire ordeal call set in Australia is it's own controversy which may explain why fgo JP has been quiet for the past month up till her release

[@arqueiroXD]

To be honest now that i got the full context. It doesn't look like fate one will have problems or at least too many,its fact that is TOO different is what actually saves it. If i understand correct the problem is representing then in the way that the people do because there is a lot of religious belief about that form and doing that.

[@Slayerofall21]

Wandjina in the thumbnail: *angery*

[@diogoflores5926]

Can you make a video about what you hope to see in the tamamo nine future aperances? Like what sort of abilitis that can have for others classes ?🦊

[@NefariousLoto]

Caught me off guard there lol 😂

[@pqpodeioojhin7531]

WANDJINA !!

[@Deadblank109]

So because she from the servant verse thats mean Australia isn't real

[@copper_39]

It was not surprising if the servants are foreigner that they're from the servantverse.😅

[@babylonnightfgo]

I was expecting that she'd be something that's not really a wandjina due to the laws about who can draw them.

[@lamby2486]

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE

[@izzymosley1970]

I'm not surprised something like this happened in fgo I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the first time there was a controversy about one of the servants but honestly I don't think the people who own fgo care about disrespecting anyone if it allows them to make more money.

[@VelicusArts]

What is the name of the ost he uses on the video?

[@dededestroyer4611]

One of the Fgo event shop themes. "Up in Flames" I think it's called?

[@arkaua]

ぐだぐだショップ大炎上 ～帝～

[@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary]

I feel like the cultural weirdplace is awkward imo because Wandjina isnt supposed to be an actual Wandjina but inspired by the Wandjina, but on the other hand, it seems kinda sacreligous to depect a deity in any form other than in reverence so who knows That's just what I think, until someone actually qualified to speak up about it does, I think Wandjina in Fate will be fine

[@Nurple17]

'Straya, mate

[@nurventilatoren]

She can't be Australian, because she isn't upside-down.

[@izzymosley1970]

Do you really think that a company as large as the one that owns fgo actually cares about offending or respecting anyone if that gets in the way of them making money. Personally I highly doubt it.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

I hope Type Moon doesn't get cancelled because they broke a sacred rule.