Klipsch RP1600SW vs SVS PB16 Ultra

Testing of the Klipsch RP1600SW vs the SVS PB16 Ultra
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[@BrandonAttarDbran]

Placement is very important, you should have tested the klipsch in the same exact spot as the svs. anyway good video :) happy owner of Dual SVS SB16's

[@thomasferguson139]

Agreed

[@homecinemaking397]

Agreed but as mentioned in the video there is no way im moving the PB16 by myself, so it is what it is.

[@BrandonAttarDbran]

@@homecinemaking397 yes i understand those things are heavy 😆

[@burtminshew4812]

Agreed....the SVS is loaded. Many reviews have been done and the Klipsch kills that PB in everyway.

[@ncaatrackstar]

I cannot agreed more. By default the SVS has a at least a 3db advantage with the back wall loading.

[@CaptainSplatch]

Great Video. Really showed off some of the details that I wanted to see. Thanks. Loving my new Klipsch rp-1400 and Denon avr. This just makes me appreciate it all the more.

[@MikeNapoli-ug3fm]

Great video. I enjoy watching your content. Thank you for your passion !

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you👌👍💪

[@MrBonger88]

Ahh I’ve been waiting for this one. Thank you

[@homecinemaking397]

Enjoy👌

[@TheNLHAZE]

Great video my friend...cheers!!

[@homecinemaking397]

@@TheNLHAZE thanx👌

[@mcjonner]

Tonewinner d6000 seems to be another sub that could be included in this conversation, one channel said it outperformed the svs at half the price or so. Probably from china, but a very well put together design overall. Another one that needs more attention is starke as a budget sub can get into 15" ported for quite cheap.

[@jorgejovel5313]

I have quad svs subs . 2 sb4000s in the rear and 2 sb16 ultras up front. The 4000s are directly behind my recliner 2 in ches away for tactile feel. I'm very happy with my setup .

[@homecinemaking397]

Im sure its epic👌

[@Crmsnraider]

*Subscribed* I wass slacking man lol Was glad to find your channel the other week

[@homecinemaking397]

Happy to have you onboard 💪

[@rasta.j]

Awesome video mate

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you

[@ATLballer]

I BOUGHT THE 1400.............ITS A BEAST

[@Jack96993]

I have two SVS Ultra 13 subs that i bought over 10 years ago and they weigh 90 lbs each! I really like that SVS has an upgrade path I did their upgraded plate amp Now it has SVS Subwoofer DSP and control smartphone app • 1,200 watts RMS, 4,000+ watts Peak power amplifier with fully discrete MOSFET output

[@thembaallendlamini4777]

I love your personal opinion and it puts things into perspective. In dollar price, they are not that far off. However, in rands something happens to import stuff.

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you👌 i know and wish it was not the case with imports.

[@sabbathAndy]

Awesome vid, well the Klipsch is still excellent for the money, theres a big difference on electronics involved on the Svs, a lot more power, Dsp is excellent, the app and so on. Finally it all comes down to budget. Both excellent.

[@homecinemaking397]

Cant agree more👌

[@1FastGXP]

Great video & totally agree with your opinion. You get what you pay for, and SVS uses much higher quality components. If you look at both manufacturers drivers, removed from their cabinets, you will immediately see how anemic the 1600SW driver is compared to SVS. Stamped steel basket on the Klipsch versus SVS cast aluminum for strength & regidity. Put quality components together, and it shows in the final product. This from an SVS sub that's almost eight 😮 years old! Can't wait to see the new subs they have in R&D. 🤤

[@homecinemaking397]

Yip and new subs coming soon👌

[@thomasschafer7268]

😅😅😅svs 4000€ klipsch 1500€🤔🤔

[@cesarlemathepowerofsound614]

Awesome and Nice subwoofers bro , gretting From Uruguay

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you👍

[@TheNLHAZE]

Great video my friend thank you very much !!🍺cheers👍WOW I'm watching again and just noticed the camera is shaking when the S.V.S is playing again great video but the clear winner here is the svs and I may add I also do own the RP1600 as we'll, but it is what it is S.V.S The Winner 😊😊 😎

[@kkenmmac22]

The SVS sub was right next to a wall / corner , which can give you +6 db of gain or more.

[@johncallison4745]

@@kkenmmac22 I would agree with you if they were rear firing ports however that this the beauty of both these subs they can be placed closer to the wall without wall amplification.

[@thomasferguson139]

Placement comparison is very important. Always test speakers and subs in the same location as the one your comparing it to for validity purposes

[@homecinemaking397]

Agreed but as mentioned in the video there is no way im moving the PB16 by myself so it is what it is.

[@piponaw]

I own a SVS SB4000 since 5 months, thinking about a second one (50% music 50%hc). They're amazing

[@homecinemaking397]

Multi sub is always the way💪

[@norbac]

Great video! I've been enjoying your videos quite a bit. What your name man? Are you based in Joburg?

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you👌 my name is Morne and based in JHB yes.

[@acidnut]

I just got two of the 1400sw to replace my dual SVS PB-1000 and they are out of this world. They are insane even with the gain at only 5. Playing A quiet place and my house door about to explode open. and they push so much air like two floor fans blowing at you.

[@dwayneharris1438]

You have one of the port sealed on the SVS. What is the reason for that.

[@tl.li.8769]

Nice what song did you use in the test?

[@mk1mcqueen277]

God bless you brother thanks for this video when you have a chance try to compare with music to see what happens

[@homecinemaking397]

Will do when the Klipsch comes back👌 thanx💪

[@Morphz_Unlimited]

Still not comparing apples to apples. The SVS makes considerably more power. I noticed that the SVS has more port noise than the Klipsch. Awesome vid!

[@tazgoth23]

yeah and i dont like it

[@christisdale9977]

I really enjoys your video's and appreciate all your hard work.Glad to hear your reaping some rewards with your channel getting more likes and subs.I have subbed.Hello from Canada,where are you?

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you, im from South-Africa

[@Audioenthusatic]

By the way great vedio ,both brand are amazing....to the price comparison klipsch do the decent output......but still SVS is Rocking king.....

[@homecinemaking397]

Cant agree more👍

[@Audioenthusatic]

​@homecinemaking397 bro ...Nice T-shirt.....can I get one of these ......😊

[@homecinemaking397]

@@Audioenthusatic keep a eye out merch drop soon👌

[@jfd7cf]

With the waterbottle you are comparing the speed of air. But lower speed is better, because it's less audible (as an sound artifact), as long as they provide the same SPL.

[@tylerm6207]

Can you make a video comparing the Klipsch RP-1600SW to the Martin Logan BalancedForce 212?

[@homecinemaking397]

I will see if i can get in contact with who import ML in SA👌

[@jkc711]

Link to the test track? I want to try it with my JTR 4000ULF-ST.

[@homecinemaking397]

Bass i love u Quite place 2

[@MrBonger88]

I think I had read somewhere that the Klipsch driver is more efficient hence the need for less power. Please correct me if I’m wrong

[@homecinemaking397]

Normally the case with all Klipsch drivers yes.

[@dadevastator24_77]

Great video, but when doing comparisons it is best to make sure that both subs are being compared in the same location.

[@TheFreshPrinceofWakanda]

I am always concerned about home theatres in apartments, how do you fully enjoy the audio in an apartment without disturbing your neighbours? I have just competed my Klipsch speaker collection, with 3 x 12 inch subs and I am looking to install it very soon.

[@homecinemaking397]

Acoustically treat and isolate the room works wonders👌

[@TheFreshPrinceofWakanda]

@@homecinemaking397 Thanks, keep up the good work.

[@douwevdw]

That wobble, isn't it exaggerated by the camera/framerate syncing with the frequency?

[@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748]

the same BS i seen in the guy with two 33" subs and the image blurs is total BS clickbait , ether using software vibration , camera attached to tripod with bass shaker so it be in sync with the other subs , get the idea ? otherwise i not seen any past videos of subs or those car hi-fi ones with the distortion , sure car fixings vibrate but not the actual ripple transparent blur effect , movies create illusion , tv creates lies and now youtubers sub heads now looking for new gimmick to BS to get $clickbait

[@jake-jp3vb]

My PB16 just arrived today .. Any serious lessons/pointers for moving it once it’s outside the box?

[@homecinemaking397]

Always a problem as its huge and heavy. Dont do it alone is all i can say👍

[@jake-jp3vb]

@@homecinemaking397Much appreciated, thanks.

[@jake-jp3vb]

@@happydogg312This helped, much appreciated.

[@thomasschafer7268]

4000€ svs to 1500€ klipsch. No question!!👍👍🇩🇪

[@homecinemaking397]

Klipsch still good bang for buck👌

[@MrMichaelEsser]

@@homecinemaking397 And for 3500 you can get the JTR Captivator 2400. This is a completly other level

[@kkenmmac22]

I heard on Youthman’s podcast that Klipsch told him the RP-1600sw is meant to go head to head with the SVS pb4000. According to him Klipsch has another sub that will compete with the SVS PB 16 Ultra ,that they are currently developing.

[@homecinemaking397]

Yes i would say PB4000 is more in line. But still 16” vs 16” seems more fair in my eyes. If you take cars it would be V10 vs V10 regardless of the L.

[@Titan7170]

Yea they been saying that for years they called it the beast! I couldn't wait any longer so I got the 1600

[@xaerothehero]

19:00 The "wobble" you describe here is not actually happening. This is a video optical phenomena that you will only see on screen. It's because when the driver moves at the same frequency as the frame rate of your screen (or the frame rate of the video), it will only look like it is "warping" because of how the picture on your screen is updated and the way that digital cameras record video (from the top to the bottom, one line at the time). The phenomena you see is called "rolling shutter effect". If you want to know more about it you can google that term.

[@tessie4204]

Which one is best for listening to music? Klipsch RP-1000SW or SVS SB1000 pro? Thanks!

[@homecinemaking397]

SB1000 for music👌

[@tessie4204]

@@homecinemaking397 Ok thx

[@homecinemaking397]

@@tessie4204 anytime👌

[@blackapino4life]

Depends what u listen too I’m a bass head and the klipsch is loud sounds really good rap rnb and dance here

[@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS]

Buy bass shakers. Save thousands and save your ears. I have pb4000’s and don’t have to turn them up with bass shakers. My ears are happier

[@KimmoJaskari]

The fact that it is one meter away in positioning is a huge deal, though. Sub placement in the room is extremely crucial. I realize moving the subs around between tests isn't easy, but you were still no listening to the same thing. If I move my head in the couch one meter the subs in my room sound completely different.

[@ginga11ninjagaming40]

Rp1600sw great value for what you get, but agree that SVS stil tops on output and performance. PB16 needs another competitor. Whats happening to Velodyne, especially in SA? Still around or not?

[@neodeane3327]

Those are the subs you get when you don't like your neighbours.

[@homecinemaking397]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Titan7170]

Was the crossover set the same as the Svs?

[@homecinemaking397]

All exactly the same.

[@Titan7170]

@@homecinemaking397 cool it was a great review thanks

[@eugene4637]

Hey King, what's the test track you use at around 00:16 ?

[@sammy10001]

get another 16 brother, and stack them on top of each other... your jaw will drop

[@homecinemaking397]

Im sure👌

[@kkenmmac22]

Measurements from Audioholics Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW Subwoofer CEA-2010 Burst Test Measurements Frequency (Hz) SPL (dB) 10hz 82.2 Spl (db) 12.5hz 98.0 Spl (db) 16hz. 105.5 Spl (db) 20hz. 109.5 Spl (db) 25hz. 113.3 Spl (db) 31.5hz. 117.5 Spl (db) 40hz. 118.5 Spl (db) 50hz. 117.6 Spl (db) 63hz. 117.0 Spl (db) 80hz. 116.6 Spl (db) 100hz. 115.8 Spl (db) 125hz. 115.5 Spl (db) SVS PB16-Ultra CEA-2010 Burst Test Measurements Extended Mode (2 Ports Open) 10hz 89.1 Spl (db) 16hz. 112.3 Spl (db) 20hz. 112.3 Spl (db) 25hz. 115.5 Spl (db) 31.5hz. 118.0Spl (db) 40hz. 118.8 Spl (db) 50hz. 118.4 Spl (db) 63hz. 117.1 Spl (db) 80hz. 115.0 Spl (db) 100hz. 113.6 Spl (db) 125hz. 112.7 Spl (db). Both subwoofers are pretty close , SVS has a little more deep bass extension.

[@homecinemaking397]

You can hear it clearly yes👌

[@84Prich]

Would be cool if had spl meter to test peak output 😅

[@homecinemaking397]

Did not go to max but good idea👌

[@homecinemaking397]

@@happydogg312 i love the PB2000👌

[@mickegullberg574]

Have you listen to any sub from jtr ? 🙂

[@homecinemaking397]

We unfortunately dont get them in SA

[@rmoore6471]

Two years ago - I was facing an issue on deciding which sub to go with between SVS PB16U or this Klipsch.. I took a gamble and went SVS.. Never regretted it.. So I brought a 2nd PB16U... You want to say earthquake in a box!!

[@anonalpha1190]

This sub wasn't out 2 years ago, was it?

[@rmoore6471]

I recall q4 of 2022..

[@thomasferguson139]

And don't forget for break in time for a new speaker

[@homecinemaking397]

Yes this was not new it was a prior demo.

[@Benz93x]

The monolith subs are apparently really good. Doesn't this compete with the pb3000? And not the 16 ultra

[@homecinemaking397]

I believe so but we dont get them in SA

[@blackapino4life]

My 1400 is way louder than the pb 3000 SVS is more detailed on movies tho I have both

[@gamingingalaxy4011]

@@blackapino4life i also have a dual pb3000 and im thinking adding either pb16 or klipsch 1600. How do you like the 1400 compared to pb3000? You mentioned being louder do you mean like deeper bass?

[@KimmoJaskari]

16 inches, 1600 watts, it's perfectly reasonable to match it against the Ultra.

[@xxxxxxxxxx6903]

Technically both designs are affected by less than optimal port cross sectional area for driver swept volume. Commercial consumer audio is literally all about the compromises per msrp! The SVS blowing over a plastic bottle at half XMax is not necessary a good thing! Audition gear in person, and see what tickles your auditory pickle!

[@homecinemaking397]

Agreed always audition 👌

[@123abc3900]

SVS has way bigger holes for air to come out that's way it's better at knocking down the bottle

[@sarraholuka2239]

Monalith thx 16 ultra vs SVS PB16 ultra 👍

[@jorgem50]

I bought two 1400s at $699 each. At full retail I wouldn't have purchased them as I don't think they are worth that much.

[@ulflarsson9693]

U should testing xtz cinema 1×12 edge then. From 🇸🇪.

[@homecinemaking397]

Not familiar with them.

[@ulflarsson9693]

​@@homecinemaking397best sub around 1000$ according to shane lee. 😃🔈👍

[@mcjonner]

2 14" Klipsch vs 1 svs?

[@homecinemaking397]

If you are going to stick with the 2 klipsch then yes but if there is any chance of maybe getting two svs later then do that.

[@Belfor09]

I wished it was with measurements...

[@sarraholuka2239]

Your doing a great job 👍 if possible please SVS PB16 ultra vs monalith thx 16 let people see the truth that most KZbinrs hides 😢😢 please 🙏

[@homecinemaking397]

Thank you. We dont get Monolith in SA unfortunately. Would love to!

[@brucecarter6205]

The Monolith 16 is a significant step up over the PB16 Ultra in output. Bigger driver though. They list it as a 16, but in reality it measures out to 18.

[@homecinemaking397]

@@brucecarter6205 wish i could get my hands on one to test…

[@bambampiewpiew540]

I like the driver of Klipcsh, but the build quality of the cabinet is lower than SVS. So my heart goes for dual sb3000❤. Thanks for the review. PS. Watch out for your back mate, this beast is 50 kilos.

[@homecinemaking397]

Agreed on all points👌

[@lewisbrazil5485]

wife must not have been home

[@homecinemaking397]

@@lewisbrazil5485 actually my wife gives me no problems👌

[@miznataly09]

That's a big subwoofers I have for myself love those basses when h watching KZbin's or movies looks like surround sounds home teather

[@aishatalley8887]

The Svs pb 16 lost against the klipsch 1600sw because both was up against a wall so this not a fair battle

[@chriswelljack4910]

Lol

[@UptownNYC]

NEXT DO REVIEW FOR PERLISTEN R212s kzbin.info40Mz75koayM Thanks!

[@homecinemaking397]

Not available here but some interesting things to come👌

[@MattyDaddy14]

He could do the monolith M215 or even the M@K X12+ or X15+!!!! 🎉 Good video. Btw. If you could expand on that driver “wobble” effect you mentioned.. what causes that? Only seen In slo motion. Ps. Is it possible the Klipsch wasn’t all the way broken in yet? I’ve seen an identical video comparing these two and the Klipsch came out the winner big tone. 🎉

[@homecinemaking397]

@@MattyDaddy14 both played in 👌

[@princia2152]

Try to use another song i hate using that song when testing subwoofer

[@tordb]

God those are tacky looking compared to my SVS PC-4000 lol

[@garysmith8455]

First minute of viewing I thought, hmmmm, what kind of test is this? One out in the room, one getting lots of gain from the front wall.........not very fair. Next time, if the reviewer is having difficulty moving those things, there SHOULD have been help on hand!

[@johncallison4745]

Nice demo, I do disagree with you on one thing. The klipsch is limited in application and control where has the SVS shines in this as well as performance. I would take a single SVS over 4 Klipsch due to this alone. I have 3 systems and am always trying new things and some of this involves vintage systems that I need a line level in out connection. Klipsch does not have this. Before you say it yes I could y adapt them and do it that way but, I prefer not to. For me it is just a obsession. I really did not like the klipsch at all to me they sounded much more muddy than the svs even on mild bass like you said the heart beat. I could clearly hear it on svs and through my computer speakers I could not make it out at all in the klipsch too much mud.

[@homecinemaking397]

Each too there own. In my main cinema i replaced 1x16 ultra with 4 RP1200 and trust you me, i will blow your mind over one 16 ultra.

[@johncallison4745]

@@homecinemaking397 I personally do not feel that multiplying a lesser performing speaker does anything to make them perform better. As I stated the features of the SVS blow away the Klipsch completely. When it comes to price points features can be a reason I might spend more for a item. If the Klipsch did not obviously lose this comparison then yes I would jump in head first on them because value for buck but, wait, does not have feature that I need for my applications, nope still out, even if they out performed svs I would still be possibly out why. Lack of features! I can point one out it is a simple one but, very important to someone like me. I noticed you had center port of svs plugged. To change sound for test and put it closer to the other speaker? or personal preference? I believe the latter. So to someone like myself who may move my sub from living room to bedroom and need a little tighter bass in one room vs the other I can accomplish this easily. The lack of line level outputs of the Klipsch totally baffles me why. I also have to say now you are talking about 4 totally different subs i.e. RP 1200 vs RP1600. That is not what we were talking about. I will say this we can play this game all day long when it comes to Klipsch you talk about money factor and x4. Sir, I could choose to get 4 SVS PB 2000 Pro with ports for 100 more per speaker than the RP 1200 with again better performance via much wider frequency response i.e. svs at 16-290hz vs the 1200 at 16.5 - 138hz again more features, more power and get 10% off my cost. Which puts cost at $3959.97 vs how much did you pay? $3996 am I close? so lets just say the same for a speaker that once again has less performance, less power, much more limited frequency response. OK SVS will destroy Klipsch at any and all price points. I would even venture to say that I could pit PB1000 pro at 200 less per speaker and has same discount and I could still destroy your system in everything except power. That said back to the original system. I would take 2 Ultras vs 4 and I am sure they would out perform the 4 1600s except in loudness. Just my opinion. Still liked your video and like I said we could debate our life away on this subject if we are going to I am going to need a whiskey.

[@KimmoJaskari]

To fully dial in subs in a room, if you have multiple especially, adding a MiniDSP HD to do the processing is kind of a no-brainer, and then using REW to do EQ curves for the subs. Price-wise, one of these subs and a MiniDSP is still vastly cheaper than the SVS unit. Also - multiple subs are often a huge boon, you do get 3 db more headroom but more crucially you get vastly smoother bass reponse in multiple seats. If all you care about is literally one seat, then sure, a single sub can do the job.

[@homecinemaking397]

@@KimmoJaskari ever heard of Dirac live before…? Granted REW and mini dsp had its place but it old tech now. On new multi sub units with Dirac this is no longer needed.

[@totalplonker824]

I was just wondering why you have your centre channel placed inside the cabinet. After all, isn't there room on top? IDK if you know this, but the way you currently have your centre channel, the virtual effects are pretty limited.

[@homecinemaking397]

This room changes every week so i have different places to put speakers. This one just happens to be in the cabinet. There was not always room on top, we just recently put that tv up.

[@blackapino4life]

SVS is more detailed the klipsch is cheap here and the klipsch is way louder than the SVS from a value standpoint the klipsch is a no brainer and u wouldn’t notice the difference in detail unless u listening to both

[@danielwatts9803]

Every speaker reviewer had strategically dodged Tonewinner Subs. I understnd why. This is the only guy who dared to do comparison with the PB16. Tonewinner Subs for the win! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYibgpR4i8SKrq8si=pLaIZNv4M6mhlq6m

[@Zatoichi4173]

They both make air noises, which probably wouldn't be so drastic with the SVS if all three ventilations had been open, but the SVS sounds more differentiated. I'm a little disappointed with the Klipsch, my home-made one sounds better.

[@yeorges]

Need measurements this is bs

[@chriswelljack4910]

Not that heavy

[@asmongoldsmouth9839]

*Klipsche is 100% COMPLETELY OVERRATED!! They haven't been good in decades. I'd go with most any other manufacturer over Klipsche. But, I prefer DynAudio.*

[@gregritferdjr]

Haters gonna hate

[@gregritferdjr]

Also if ur gonna leave a cringey ahh hate comment then spell the brand correctly.😭😂

[@SirChiefUK]

Both seems to have a really hard bass not as deep / low sound I would have wanted…

[@Idiotsincarshere]

Would you say both destroy the 12" RSL Speedwoofer ? Casual music listener here, rarely movies. 2.1 system with Klipsch RP8000F towers pushed by a FOSI Audio BTA20PRO. Thanks!

[@homecinemaking397]

Another brand we dont get here in SA so cant comment.

[@Idiotsincarshere]

@@homecinemaking397 Where is SA? Sorry, new to the channel !

[@homecinemaking397]

@@Idiotsincarshere south-Africa/Johannesburg

[@miznataly09]

Have one for myself

[@miznataly09]

Wow

[@miznataly09]

Theatre