Klipsch RP600M Review - They Handle Business

[@joentell]

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[@cmkilcullen8176]

Still waiting for a thought thru comparison between these and the former incarnation of these, the 160ms. Are these worth the difference in price -perspective.. I am much more interested in that than these vs the elacs UB's. So often the older vs newer models of other speakers are compared with demo differences or improvements. The comparison of the 600m and the rp 160m's are suspiciously missing or so rare...I have not seen them..I think thats sad.

[@cmkilcullen8176]

PS Not that interested in these vs any Elacs per se. Different animals.

[@AudioElectronicsChicago]

Great job reviewing these! You are getting better and better! I have these and they are great for what they are and for the price!

[@emerickdan]

Outstanding review, Joe! This is the best take on these that I've heard so far - by far! On a personal note, please know that your family is in my prayers. I hope you're taking all the time and rest that you need right now.

[@joentell]

Thank you for taking the time to show support!

[@Mrtscrp30]

@@joentell Stay Healthy we love your videos Prayers and love to you and your Family.

[@idroxyde]

As always, Joe you do the best speakers reviews of all youtube ! hands down ! I really enjoy watching each of your videos

[@joentell]

Thank you! 🙏 I didn't feel like this was one of my best, bit I'll try harder next time

[@joshblank1]

How do the dynamics of these RP600m compare to the vii?

[@jp2246]

This was a great review. My son has these and I really like them. He drives them easily with the relatively low wattage NAD 3020 amp-Dac

[@1mctous]

A vintage NAD 3020 would likewise sound great. I tried one with Heresy II's back in 1989 and they worked together very well.

[@woodstock480]

I'm interested in the comparison with the UB5.

[@kohnfutner9637]

There's really not much comparison of the two. I own them both. A lot will come down to room size (Klipsch with larger rooms) and your upstream electronics (klipsch goes good with Yamaha YPAO though it takes knowing how to run the system to get the optimal settings it can do it, the Klipsch will suck with Audyssey settings, I gave up with Denon and Klipsch it was obvious the two didn't complement each other; elac goes good with Denon or Yamaha even though I still lean towards Yamaha being my favorite of the two brands. Denon is much more lively, detailed and bright, Yamaha is much more natural and dark. Both have beefy power with ability to push out a lot of clean undistorted bass.) Elac is good mid-range and reserved, good for easy listening, effortless, glosses over imperfections but can be slightly dark and recessed with Yamaha gear. Denon brings out the treble but something about the sound seemed more artificial than with the Yamaha but the Yamaha was so reserved at times that it became somewhat aggravating to me knowing there wasn't enough sparkle from the ub5 through the Yamaha. It's a hard decision to say which did overall better even though the Yamaha was easier to work with. The Denon likes to set high crossover points and says elac are out of phase most of the time. Klipsch is balls to the wall action and Dynamics. If you want speakers that sound big, wall of sound, instruments like brass or drums sound life-like powerful and authoritative, Klipsch is the way to go. Klipsch lacks some finesse, can be harder to listen to over a long course with some types of music like edm or badly recorded rock. Klipsch are difficult to set up. Klipsch is pickier with electronics you pair it with but arguably the brand with the higher payoff by far I would say. I recommend Klipsch as a secondary music speaker not a primary and as a primary theater speaker. Klipsch work perfectly with home theater. I recommend them for larger rooms; elac for smaller rooms. I recommend larger Klipsch like the 280f which can get by without a sub. Ub5 can get by without a sub but at far less dynamic levels. I think if you owned them both you'd understand what I mean that comparing them is like comparing a motorcycle to an every day driver car. Klipsch much more fun but I don't think it's a sound you want all the time for music (I could be wrong), elac smoother and soothing to listen to but lacking the fun. Klipsch is an experience like nothing I heard before. Elac is more like other speakers but done delicately well. Overall if I'm going to say which is my personal favorite: definitely klipsch but I prefer the 280f. The 600m just didn't have enough in the tank with only that 6.5" woofer but it's a good taste tester that can move to back or side channels. To get the big payoff from Klipsch - GO BIG (you also need a room that's pretty big too). As a standoff 600m against ub5 I'd probably take the ub5 just because it has a better overall balance on its own and the 600m lacks the punch and mid-range "bigness" that makes Klipsch shine. 600m isn't bad it just wasn't enough for me. If you go from 280f to ub5 it's like going from a supercar to a gas sipper. Klipsch is far more amazing and impressive but sometimes you don't want muscle you just want a nice smooth ride, a delicate whirl in the background or to relax - you won't really get that from Klipsch but you would get that from elac ub5 or JBL studio 580 (which would be a much better comparison).

[@joentell]

Excellent review. I guess I don't need to do the comparison now. 😂😉

[@kohnfutner9637]

@@joentell 🤣 thank you, sire. 😌 I'm just a kookie monsta everyone here is here to hear what Joe the know says.

[@doncarlitotan]

@@kohnfutner9637 thank you for your review. I been searching here for a comparison between the two. And bonus for mentioning the Yamaha, which is my reciever to use. 👍

[@JamesLee0080]

Nice review. I only had the klipsch R-51M, and I also found that the height position of them is very important. If they are placed to low, the sound will be changed so dramatically. R-51M are fantastic speaker with very entry level price. I hope I can own rp-600m in the future.

[@thang1742]

check frys electronics whenever they have klipsch sales its for 350$ for rp600m and it flies off the shelves lowest ive seen is 300$

[@ErinsAudioCorner]

Just wanted to say I appreciate your effort and your work here. I may not always agree with your opinion but I appreciate what you’re doing, regardless. Keep it up!

[@joentell]

I try to back up my subjective opinions with objective data. If nothing else I'm just trying to give someone my perspective. I also try and make sure I'm clear about what is objective and what is just my opinion.

[@lsim001]

better late than never. these speakers are legit. i've got them hooked up to my Yamaha receiver and it works really well. I've played with placement and toe in and no surprise to anyone, it makes a difference. but most of the time due to space constraints i have them about a half a feet from the wall and it's still sounds pretty good to me.

[@junior-OG]

me too with a yamaha rx-a3080

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

I got em' with the Yamaha RN 402 amp. Unfortunately my speaker placement is just... awful! I have the Klipsch setup on two different heights on a staircase bookshelf. It's only temporary...

[@TheDoozie43]

Great review! Just picked up some 500Ms as side and rear surrounds and I love them! Of course they now match my rp280 towers and 504c center which were already great 👍🏻 love the highs in this line the most of any speakers I’ve owned probably. didn’t have the space for these monsters in your review, but maybe someday though.

[@backrack01]

Even at Klipshs price hike...these are still worth the cost. Beautiful sound. :)

[@mattgti86]

It's great that you do measurements in your reviews! Thx

[@joentell]

I try to back up what I'm saying with something objective

[@scottlowell493]

I have the RP600M and a similar reference klipsch. The 600M is far better integrated, and doesn't have the harsh edge of the reference. Klipsch really improved.I can NOT use the previous model reference nearfield. I can use the 600M desktop. I ran mine for a while using a Schiit audio Loki eq, with just a TOUCH at the point when there is a dip in response. I can cut the treble if needed. My next long weekend, I am going to mod mine like GR research did, and add more internal damping. Incidentally, I got mine for $425 a pair, on sale.

[@hochhaul]

Their RP line is the lowest tier of products I would buy at this point.

[@FlyGuy457]

I'd like to know the size of room you are using as a test environment-if possible. And since I sold Klipsch for 20 years, tip is : more treble -tow in, less treble- tow out.

[@joentell]

Agree with your toe-in toe-out comment. My living room is about 14ft x 12ft x 9ft but opens up into other rooms.

[@FlyGuy457]

@@joentell That is pretty fair size. I just finished a two day near field experiment in an 11 x 11 room. Once I got the distance and tow in correct, the speaker virtually disappeared. One of the most interesting tests I have done.

[@aneczka2114]

Wow your reviews have really grown to such a high quality...great video!

[@joentell]

I appreciate that. I feel like it wasn't one of my best. I've been going through a lot so I just wanted to just put something out. I appreciate it though. 😊

[@josephramos7979]

Thanks for the tips on placement. These sound great!

[@gnd144]

Nice honest review, Well done.

[@IsmaelMartinezPR]

Hello Joe: Nothing like taking your own independent measurements. The one thing the audio industry for some reason does not like. But I do. Cheers

[@joentell]

Yes...that's what I do. I never blindly believe what any manufacturer says. Their job is to sell product. My job is to give my honest assessment and to tell you guys about products I think are awesome. This one is awesome, but like every other speaker, not perfect.

[@jameswheeler7679]

Good review I had mines for 4months they are everthing that you have mentioned and more I have mine's on 24 inch speaker stands toed in and about 12 inches from the wall they perform so well that I placed my klipsch kg4s into my bedroom

[@kohnfutner9637]

The treble isn't bright at all with Yamaha. The mid-range is what hits your ear the hardest but it's immersive mid-range that I really enjoy.

Is possible to have a 2.0 system for movie home theater with those speaker?

[@joentell]

I think with proper placement, you will have a strong enough phantom center for it to be believable.

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

100% YES! That's what I'm using my Klipsch RP 600M for. They're PERFECT for movies.

[@ythagakure]

Thank you for continuing to express your love of music through KZbin. Spot on review. Much appreciated it!

[@divyanshmahle5314]

Hey Joe, I own Klipsch R-15 M and I don't know which amplifier to use for these for under $150 for best possible sound. Please kindly share your advice.

[@davidhoover2446]

Thanks for the most comprehensive review on these I have seen. Most people just praise them and say they are the best with no real comparisons and it got annoying to me. You did a good job comparing it to other speakers and the upsides and downsides to it. I tend to trust your reviews more than most other people. I guess my problem and not liking them so much is that I haven't compared them to other bookshelf speakers because I've always had Tower speakers. It seems like compared to other bookshelf speakers in the price range they're pretty on point. But, in my house I use Tower speakers and for my computer powered monitors that are cheaper than those and they sound better in my opinion especially in the woofer past band.

[@joentell]

I was maybe more critical of these BECAUSE they got so much praise. They are awesome, no doubt, but not perfect.

[@bruceclegg891]

You should try the Klipsch RF7III.

[@great100m]

Well done Joe. Practical review with just enuf tech into to justify your comments. Looking forward to Elac vs Klipsch comparison. Spot on !

[@ziggy8757]

excellent review Joe... I would say compare these against, Elac reference debut, elac ub5, triangle br03....it would be an awesome video for sure...

[@jameswheeler7679]

I just added a pair of these for my apartment very good speakers still playing around with speaker placement,adequate bass for my apartment still trying to decide on a subwoofer

[@NathanClevenger1337]

I know you have these on a leaderboard under the klipsch the five. But, if these RP600M have a good amp. Are they still under the fives? I purchased a SvS SB-2000 to add to my Pa system I'm using for my audio. But now I'm disappointed. Because now I want my highs and mids to sound better than these Harbinger HA120's.Which have no imaging or soundstage. Kind of confused which route I should go... the powered/active speakers seem to work better with my setup being hooked up to my tv and computer. I like being able to turn up the volume to fill a large room for parties. As well as be able to watch movies and play games. Was also looking at the Kanto TUK's because they look so sexy. But then seen where they are on your board lol... The fives also have the HDMI arc which would be useful for when I switch to one of the consoles and back to pc. I wouldn't have to keep messing with the volume. Would much rather get some powered floor standing speakers so I didn't have to buy extra floor stands that basically take up the same space as the bookshelf speakers on stands will. BTW thanks for the recommendation on the SvS sub, it's a lot better than what I had.

[@joentell]

I think the RP600M's have more potential to sound good WITH DSP. If you invest in a MiniDSP 2x4HD or the MiniDSP DDRC-24, it will take that system to another level. That's really the key. It will help integrate that subwoofer seamlessly. It's one of the best upgrades you can do in my opinion. You will also need a UMIK-1 microphone.

[@gildizon6458]

You’re kinda late to the game in this review, but I’m always open to reputable reviews. I bought the 600M a month ago & I agree with your take on it. Stay safe bro.

[@joentell]

😂. Late is and understatement. Just recently started working with Klipsch to finally get these in for review. I could've bought them when they came out, but I have so many products (speakers) in for review it's ridiculous. It takes up a ton of space. So I try not to race to be first. It's not like technology where the turnover is really quick. It will be a while before Klipsch refreshes these IMO.

[@mykeldg]

Just curious -- why aren't the rp600m in your leaderboard yet and how do they fare there? thanks

[@kohnfutner9637]

I got mine on stands where the mid is at my ears because I got the 280f are at the right height my center is below my ears a little too low.

[@ibdam1]

Great review. Thank you! Love the D. Hat.

[@fredbrunetti7256]

Very good review I own them and I love them I had the Polk R 200 but I prefer the sound of the Klipsch by far

[@mystudent11]

Hey, after you showed the woofer moving as the letter requested I had to become a subscriber. Also, I have three pair of these speakers, and love them.

[@__mango4654]

Hey great review,good job on the comparison 👍🙌

[@tracybumgarner6624]

Yes, outstanding review.

[@manvalerio]

Great review, can you also compare them to the JBL 530’s.

[@gdwlaw5549]

Got a pair in November to replace my Monitor Audio Bronze for a small listening/cinema room.I also I use them for Cinema with Benq video projector. At the same time changed the amplifier and got the Yamaha MusicCast R-N803D. I enjoy vinyl and Spotify via the amplifier. MusicCast is just fabulous . I do not use Bluetooth. I’m done now! Most improvements are voice clarity at lower volumes. The room calibration on my amp is excellent! I would perhaps consider a subwoofer. I find the base quite reasonable. Again its in a small room in an old stone house. I am new to the Klipsch brand having only used Monitor Audio and Dali in the past. Made the mistake of trying the new Klipsch Heresy 4 last week at ‘SonVideo’ in Montpellier. This all happened before the lockdown. What an incredible speaker. Price is too :-)

[@danbalkey2580]

Really good . What better amp you would need for ub5 ?

[@joentell]

I'm happy with this Yamaha A-S501. I think they can get the most out of the UB5's.

[@repete74]

I'd love to hear your take on the HSU HB-1 MK2 bookshelf speakers one day.

[@joentell]

I talked to Dr. Hsu at AXPONA 2019 and he wasn't interested in sending out anything for review

[@repete74]

@@joentell they are relatively inexpensive speakers, the depreciation would be worth the views. Six inch driver and a horn tweeter, it's got to be an exciting match up.

[@bella3008]

You indicate that the RP600M are good at low volumes. Which other speakers are good at low volumes?

[@brng1755]

I bought the Klipsch RP6000f used for 650€ and I think they sound amazing. My Problem is that they are more picky about the Placement than my old JBLs. I have the against a wall and too norrow for a great stereo triangle. The speakers are 1.8m apart and I sit 3.2m away. Any Suggestion how to improve my situation. Greetings from austria where we aren't allowed to go out due to corona virus.

[@joentell]

I forgot to link to my playlist about room placement and acoustics: kzbin.info/aero/PLLo6DbkjBoKbfADEICU5N8Ro0rZjAPn_5

[@brng1755]

@@joentell Thanks. I'm gonna watch it tomorrow and hope to get a better understanding.

[@nicolaslangel5522]

@Joe N Tell have you done the comparison with the UB5 yet? Curious of the outcome. I have the Elac UF5 (floorstanding version of the UB5) and interested in the comparison to these Klipsch. Also, do you believe your Denon X4500 is a good match and gets the most out of the Elac UB5 that you have?

[@PhilBushay]

Cool review Joe! Any plans to review the Infinity R162 eventually? I have a pair of these and feel they are criminally underrated.

[@joentell]

Let them know you want me to review them. 😉

[@mecheng1977]

I love your side by side sound comparisons, much easier to tell the difference when you switch quickly between the two and the fact that you show the frequency response. I can do manual frequency response checks with Arc. Does Paradigm or Psb or monitor audio, B&w send speakers for test reviews? I don’t see many KZbin guys reviewing them

[@joentell]

I have PSB Alpha P5's to review. Nothing from the others yet. They're kind of behind the curve when it comes to that sort of stuff. I plan on doing a part 2 of this review

[@mecheng1977]

Joe N Tell ok and I assume you reach out to them and they don’t respond? Looking forward to the psb review, I know the old alphas sounded great

[@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea]

Klipsch or ub5 for home theatre ?

[@joentell]

I would have to go with Klipsch for the reasons I stated at the end of the video.

[@RS1925]

how does it compare with the SVS Ultra bookshelf ? thanks you great video

[@Mr91495osh]

I plan on adding these to my H3’s.

[@Mani-aX]

what kind of speaker stands are those you had in your testing area? those look nice! also, could someone explain why there is a bolt inlet in the bottom of most bookshelves but i dont ever see speaker stands utilize them.

[@joentell]

Most bookshelf speakers I've reviewed do not have threading on the bottom. The Kanto speakers do. The white stands are from Kanto and are awesome. Nice weight to them and they have a way to screw into Kanto speakers. You could do it to other speakers if you're brave. When you bolt it down it feels like the speaker and stand are one unit. You can also lock in the toe-in angle while keeping the base facing straight ahead. That means you don't have to redo it if someone nudges the stand, just face them forward and you're good. Also provides a way to hide the wires down the center. bit.ly/KantoSP32PL

[@100bsl]

Hey Joe...I believe its the Midrange frequencies that cause fatigue if they are too forward.

[@joentell]

I guess it depends on what one would consider midrange. Our ears are most sensitive between 1khz-5khz. Think babies crying and how it pierces.

[@sagarSagar-py5lt]

Which amp did you used

[@joentell]

Yamaha A-S500, Denon X4500, SMSL SA300

[@LJRockstar]

Hey Joe, I currently use the older version (RP-160M) for my side surround speakers in my home theater. Is it worth upgrading to the 600M?

[@joentell]

I haven't tried the RP-160M so I can't say. From what I've heard, they really improved the treble response to make it smoother and less harsh.

[@AexoeroV]

Hey, how do you compare this versus the SVS Prime bookshelfs?

[@TheHammerofDissidence]

You're right about the sensitivty being a little overrated. I believe others have measured it and it's really around 90db. Still, it's pretty sensitive. I own the previous model, the 160ms, which share the same specs but have a slightly different tweeter design. I agree the RP line is the most smooth sounding speakers Klipsch has put out although I would still advise against pairing them with bright sounding gear. I tried a pair with the Rega Brio 2017 and they were ear bleeding (but oozed detail. Too much detail, in fact!). Neutral or warm sounding gear is where most people will want to be. Those speakers will shine with tubes especially.

[@hochhaul]

It's largely due to the way Klipsch measures sensitivity. I don't understand why they insist on measuring all the speakers the same way they measure their Klipschorns.

[@Bass_therapy_]

Best reviewer EVERRRRR 😂, man you are awesome.

[@joentell]

I got you! 👊😎

[@GregorMima]

So going for the Triangle Borea Br03, not these Klipsch. Any comments? Cheers for another great review, greetings from Vienna.

[@joentell]

I haven't tested the Triangles. Lots of hype. Seen any measurements?

[@GregorMima]

@@joentell I wish, only found measurements of the btter ones (Titus?) and seems they all are v-shaped. Most likely reason why people aka the usual reviewers like them. Jay`s take on them was interesting, he said the instruments he is playing sound the same on these ... Wharfedale 11.2 and Jamo 93II are also on my list. Basicly all of the 400ish/pair tier.

[@jasons7070]

Audio science review just measured and reviewed this speaker and it has a major frequency dip (that can be corrected) and it needs more power than the specs let on

[@joentell]

Yes, I have many measurements of this speaker at different angles and distances. I've taken spatial averages. Not one of them did not have that dip. I even talked to a Klipsch engineer and they confirmed that it is there.

[@poochymama2878]

@@joentell Doesn't that dip make it sound terrible, though?

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

@@poochymama2878 I have the Klipsch RP 600M. And I gotta say that they lack body & warmth for classic rock and alternative. Out of the box, I didn't like the Klipsch at all. But the Klipsch are better than most speakers for movies. And modern music sounds so good as well. The Klipsch just reproduce dialog so well. This hysteria over a "frequency dip" is hyperbole. The Klipsch just have a "cooler, leaner" sound.

[@lm6036]

They look really nice. I am always curious about how the driver is build. Magnets size, Coil size, spider size and type etc. More often then not more sensitive drivers got a surprisingly small motor structure. Anyway, looking forward to your next video!

[@joentell]

Typically, you want a strong motor structure for more efficiency. Maybe they're using neodymium magnets which are much stronger and can be smaller? They almost always use lightweight cone materials. The magnet on the tweeter on these is pretty large compared to what I see for other tweeters in this price range.

[@michaelhead4387]

Just watched this one brother. Great job.

[@joentell]

Thank you

[@nikospasparakis]

I hope that all of the reviewers of the speakers let us listen to some songs with these speakers because what matters more is how is their sound. This would have been helpful before buying any set. Let the speakers talk!

[@gearhead598]

hello Joe, try tannoy speakers please?

[@j.r.j.8499]

Another great review! Thanks Joe. Very detailed and useful information. I know that "The Sixes" from Klipsch is an active speaker and different to these ones, but which one would provide the best sound experience between the RP-600M and The Sixes? Can any one help me? Thanks in advance ;)

[@Squishmallows24]

I have these for my surrounds, the rp8000f for fronts but can’t decide on the rp500c or rp600c. The 500 fits perfectly but for the 600 I’d have to make some adjustments:/

[@gordonosterhage2439]

Im wondering if I should go with these for a 3.1 system for movies or the revel concerta2 series in a 3.1 setup.. Which would you choose?

[@Mrcloc]

The review I've always wanted to hear. I'm not a Klipsch fan, but I always liked the RP-160M. How do you think these compare (if you've heard both)?

[@joentell]

Haven't heard the 160M's

[@codychavarria6088]

What is B good for surrounds to watch movies And/or music specifically for Surround and eventually I will be purchasing a clips 504C for my centre

[@kohnfutner9637]

Arguably my favorite reviewer reviewing my arguably favorite brand. I wonder how it will go down? I think you really need to go bigger with Klipsch like the 280f so the impact of the lower range can match the upper range.

[@Timewaits4no1]

The 280F aren't current anymore

[@kohnfutner9637]

@@Timewaits4no1 yes, so using it would be an end users purchase and not a reviewers sample. I prefer reviewers who own the speaker vs. giving a sponsored review.

[@byfrancisngo5237]

Hey bud. Can I use these speakers as main speakers with other 2 sub woofers please ? My home theater is 9.2 .

[@joentell]

Sure can! Curious as to what would make you think otherwise. Let me know so I can address any concerns

[@byfrancisngo5237]

@@joentell sounds good. I am upgrading my home theater this Friday Nov 27. I don't like tower speakers no more. They are bulky and take too much room. I am glad the rp600m can do as main speakers. I will need another 8 speakers for surround sound and the whole set will be all Klipsch. I kindly thank you for your advice 🙏 .

[@joentell]

Yes, I see. One thing to keep in mind is if you plan on putting them on stands, it takes about the same space as floorstanders. The way to know how big of a difference it will make is knowing where you had the previous towers crossed over at. If it's at 80hz you shouldn't notice too much difference since most of the difference between a tower and a bookshelf happens below 80hz.

[@paulmosquera7199]

Hi, what amp you use to make this review, i dont see it. Please.

[@joentell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5SomWiemsdpfJY That guy right there and the Denon X4500H bit.ly/DenonX4500H (affiliate link)

[@kreamaquatics2333]

Hi Joe N Tell, need your advise on a 3.1 system home theater Klipsch set up I am looking. Klipsch R-51M bookshelf speakers, R-52C center, R-120SW subwoofer. Will a PS Audio Sprout 100 enough to power this Klipsch setup? Is this kind of Amp limited only to a 2.1 system? Or would you suggest a not so expensive but quality AV receiver that I can expand to a 5.1 system set up in the long run? Thank you.

[@jamesf1505]

Love your reviews. Can you do a review on the Definitive Technology Pro Monitor 1000's. Really don't have any reviews and they are very nice Speakers.

[@joentell]

Maybe if they send me some

[@jamesf1505]

@@joentell 👊🏽 Appreciate it.......

[@johnsonk6898]

Another great review Joe, i watched every single your new video. You are one of my trusted reviewer. I'm interesting with next video comparation rp-600m vs ub5. I have both of these speaker, but i have a problem. based on several review, UB5 should be warmer sound, but in my case UB5 is much more fatiguing than RP-600 with the exact same system, the diferent only the speaker. Even only 30 minutes lisening session with ub5, its very fatiguing, i cant handle it. I dont know why, maybe some gear in my system is not match with ub5. My system: - 5.2.4 using AVR denon x4500, lisening music using stereo mode (2.2) - Front speaker preout to Emotiva XPA-3 gen1 (200W @8ohm and 300W @4ohm) - every time i switch the speaker, i run audesey calibration again. - playing spotify from mobile phone direct to denon x4500. Do you have any clue about my problem joe?

[@joentell]

I think your problem is Audyssey. The UB5's have a recessed treble response as intended by Andrew Jones. Audyssey looks at that and thinks it's an issue so it tries to boost the treble. That's why on this video I said, "it's better to cut than to boost." Boosting can make a speaker sound like it's struggling. It can make the sound harsh and unnatural. Try listening to them both in pure direct mode and I think you'll have a different opinion.

[@johnsonk6898]

Ahhh i see, thanks for the clue Joe🙏, will try your suggestion.

[@Daminlk]

I agree, Audessey tend to make speakers brighter, YPAO sound best to me. Audessey does have a setting called Audessey flat that sometimes works better

[@carbonoxx]

does this speaker sound better to you than the svs ultra? really?

[@joentell]

They're very comparable, but this has significantly more bass extension. For a home theater with subs crossed over at 80hz, it's a toss up, but if you plan on listening without a sub, I have to give it to these Klipsch.

[@carbonoxx]

@@joentell is the klipsch tweeter brighter than the ultras by a lot?

[@joentell]

They're both pretty bright

[@Diatonic5th]

I bought the 600M's for my home theater system and they're OK for the money. Definitely not the "giant killers" that everyone was gushing about, but decent for the money. I'm glad the hype has finally died down.

[@joentell]

They wouldn't compete with floor standing speakers or anything. But I think they're excellent for their size and price.

[@hochhaul]

@@joentell Especially at

[@floatplane]

What do you recommend that’s of this class/caliber but powered and thus more geared towards usage with computers?

[@joentell]

I like my Hercules Monitor 5's. Also the Vanatoo T1e. I have a column on my leaderboard for desktop speakers. Http://bit.ly/SpeakerLeaderboard

[@filippodeangelis7292]

Sir, you are great! from 🇮🇹

[@lorenzobussoletti9607]

How do these combine with yamaha rx-v585?

[@Aureole1599]

Is it me or do these speakers seem to be very positional? I can’t decide to buy them because they seem to only sound good when sitting in the perfect spot every time??

[@number1pappy]

Anybody know why klipsch doesnt make any 8 inch driver bookself speakers anymore?

[@thang1742]

pretty much turns it into a bookstand at that point, also it would require 2 plug in for the speaker wires, bigger woofer = more wattage

[@CJ-hr1ni]

They should make a 12 inch version of these speakers. We need more good bookshelf speakers.

[@redemsion2]

Best damn Klipsch review compared to the other kids reviews out there. I will buy for 2.1 home theater and playing reggae music! Thanks!!

[@joentell]

Thanks

[@alrightnow1124]

I love your reviews they are outstanding! My only problem is when you mention about measurements it hard to deal with that. As a normal guy listening to music that don’t matter. Listening is more valuable not what is measured. Keep up the Great Reviews...

[@joentell]

Thanks. You should learn to read the graphs. They will tell you a lot about a speaker. Double blind research has been done that shows that there's nearly a 90% correlation between a well behaved, good measuring speaker, and listener preference. In other words, you might not love a good measuring speaker, I'm pretty sure you won't like a poor measuring one.

[@alrightnow1124]

Joe N Tell thx u sir

[@russelhaxby6194]

Been watching for this review. Curious about how close it comes to your Whafedale Dentons.

[@joentell]

Ohhh....different beast. Good question. Part of the appeal of the Denton 85th is the look. It really looks beautiful to me. That messes up my perception and it's hard to be objective. I think the Denton plays more like a bigger old school speaker. Like the type of speaker you would find with a stereo rack. They just sound big. I think they are less forward on the top end but not as laid back as the UB5's. They just hit a sweet spot for me. They also are a bit picky with placement. They require more power. For playing loud and for home theater, I think Klipsch is the way to go since they have voice matched center, rear surrounds and height speakers. Also, the Wharfedales we're almost double the price.

[@RainbowCharade]

hey, love to see a sound comparison with Elac Debut 6.2!

[@kohnfutner9637]

Tell Klipsch you need to try the heresy iii & iv and forte III now because your friend kookie monster is wanting to know. 😄

[@joentell]

LOL. Those are too big for my place! I would love to once I get a dedicated studio space.

[@FOH3663]

Space constraints are certainly understandable. Physically, the Heresy's aren't too big. Also, in my opinion as long as the inter-drive unit spacing/integration is acceptable, nothing is too big.

[@pastaman6099]

Great review, got these at a steal on eBay for just $250 a pair

[@nycbass78]

What is the actual difference between the Rp 600 and the previous model Rp 160?I have mine with a Yamaha A501,dragonfly cobalt dac ,they pump out a decent sound,but I need to move volume knob to the middle ,for decent amount of sound,would a higher watt amp be able to drive these speakers further?

[@russelhaxby6194]

I have the A-S501, and I suspect that the volume control is calibrated so the mid point (12 o'clock) on the knob delivers about 10% to 15% of the power, and half power is at the 2 or 3 o'clock position.

[@timcorrigan]

Why does Joe say they are 8 ohm speakers? Unless I’m tripping, I’m 99.9% confident that Klipsch, Amazon, et al rate them at 4 ohms. Thanks in advance for any clarification… Joe is in competition for my *favorite* speaker reviewer, so I pray no disrespect is inferred by anyone… Joe and his team *definitely* have the highest production values in their corner of KZbin❣️

[@joentell]

Thank you! I just looked and it says 8 ohms on Klipsch's website.

[@adamous00]

UB5 for the win in my book. Great video! let's see that leaderboard

[@andresgarciaperez3804]

I have a marantz nr 1608, 50 w per channel,and in thinking buy the klipsch rp 6000f cause has high sensitivity. The other option is kef q 550. Do you think its better option the klipsch cause the high sensitivity? Or maybe my marantz could move the kefs? What do you think? Thanks so much.

[@John-ok8ts]

I bought these and the 600C to go along with them and I have to say they just didn't sound "right". They sounded tinny for home theatre and awful when listening to music. I replaced them with KEF Q350s and Q250C which I love. That said I do quite like the little Klipsch atmos speakers (good for special effects for the reasons Joe described) and kept them as the KEF ones are also very expensive.

[@maximilianogala6078]

totally agree.i have a pair of rb62 (reference 2 6inch) and i notice the same conclusions. im usingna 20w rms b class amplifier. low thd. and first of all. ehen you buy this speakers, its not neccesary buy a powerfull amplifier,just look for flat power and low thd. the position in to the room will affect the experience of this speakers. if you get the sweet spot you will notice a live sound that inmerse you into the music. also check the altitude of them because if your position its higher than tweeters you lost some detail

[@meletisstavridis3125]

Hi nice review. I would like to ask if it is worth changing my old Β&W 602 s2 with a pair of those Klipsch or buying a descent subwoofer instead. I look forward hearing your opinion base on your experience. Thank you in advance Mel

[@joentell]

I say save up for a good sub.

[@amazoidal]

These are often compared to the JBL 530.

[@yusufgetsit]

I would buy these just to stare at.

[@junior-OG]

lol

[@1mctous]

Danny Richie (dba GR Research) did complete measurements on the RP-600M's and estimated 90 dB/W before and 92 dB/W after his modifications (his crossover modification closed the response dip at 1.5 KHz). Stereophile estimated 91 dB/W so your rough estimate came pretty close.

[@hilde45]

Has anyone measured the sensitivity as high as Klipsch claims? Creates a credibility problem for them.

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Apparently you have to pull these apart and change the crossover components and binding posts etc before they'll sound any good. ;)

[@randomtube8226]

I really liked these speakers. But the reason I didn't keep them. Was because they lack bass compared to other speakers in its price range. If Klipch made an 8in bookshelf version it would hit the sweet spot.

[@iowaudioreviews]

According to GR Research and Audio Science Review these may sound pretty good but actually don't measure very well and would need xover and cabinet work to get the best of them. So for this kind of money I'll have to pass. I can build something better myself for less. Great review, big fan of all your content.