KMEM Localizer 27, Circle to Land 18R. Maximum Performance Landing.

[@philp1072]

Great video! Thank you so much for showing the procedure

[@fb4321]

Just exactly the way you tough us how to do it...thank you

[@daganmanrique8897]

Great video !!

[@oncamerawithroberthenry531]

The G-IV is a two pilot airplane and this approach is usually performed at night in the sim. I last performed it in the Flight Safety sim in September, 2023. However, last I heard, it was likely going to be replaced by the ILS 6 circle 1 at TEB.

[@CaptainDanPalumbo]

True. 2 pilot crew and at night. This video was meant to show how to set up and execute the task. Hopefully you’re correct about the ILS 6, circle to 1 in TEB.

[@bevelnut]

Nice work,.Only thing I would have done differently is set the missed approach altitude (for the ILS 27) after rolling out on the parallel course, disconnected the AP and then descended manually for the landing on 18R. Technique and personal choice of course. Nice video.

[@torn1975]

Good video

[@sturvinmurvin9408]

Awesome, thanks for sharing! Straight forward. Is this your home sim?

[@alialazdi-x5q]

Well done, don we need more of instruments app ..lm Ali Alzahrani

[@jeffreysicular5119]

Way too much work…. Select mins 940’. VNAV to the platform altitude…. Crossing GRNND V/S 1,000 FPM. NAV source is not a specific color, should be LOC…. LOC is the required NAV Source. Reaching MDA… ALT select to Missed Approach Altitude 5,000’. As an instructor and TCE…. I am looking for an applicant to accomplish the circling maneuver as a visual maneuver… not a timed maneuver. But hey… I’m old school from the good old days. But then again it’s the difference of an instructor training the true art of the circling approach as it should be accomplished versus than training a student to pass their rating/recurrent/61.58 check ride. As a check airman…. I want the PF to accomplish the circling maneuver as such… a visual maneuver from the approach to the airport to a position to accomplish a landing from the completion of the circling maneuver. Training using a timing maneuver is counter to the purpose of a circling maneuver. Bottom line negative training for the intent of the procedure/maneuver.

[@CaptainDanPalumbo]

All good points. However, in the G4 we emphasize the use of green needle for localizer. We cover the use of VNAV on the RNAV (GPS) approach in an earlier approach. But although an experienced pilot can use the benefits of VNAV on this approach this is a localizer approach not a RNAV. The idea here was to explain the procedure going from long range navigation (which we call blue needle) and short range navigation (which we call green needle). The minimum is 1020’, not 940’. The G-IV is a Cat D airplane. Category is based on the REF speed at maximum landing weight. The GIVSP has a max landing weight of 66,000 lbs. The performance books will show a Ref speed above 141 knots which makes it a Cat D airplane. My emphasis was on how to set up and fly a localizer with a circle at the end for a new G4 pilot. Using time in the circle is a crutch. Of course, I could have went on for another 20 minutes talking about circles and visual approaches (maybe another future video) but the theme of this video was the setting up and flying a procedure turn into a localizer approach in Green (or going from long range to short range navigation). The reference to using VNAV to the FAF has merit and is another way of doing it for an experienced pilot like yourself but that’s a lot to do at a critical time on the “stabilized” approach. I’d much prefer being in green needle (or LOC as you put it) way before the FAF. It is a localizer approach, after all. Thanks for your input. I appreciate your comments. You gave me an idea for another video.

[@KevinAround]

Bottom line is… make a video that’s better and makes sense like this, then come back :) Be kind.

[@jeffreysicular5119]

@@KevinAround I was making fam flights to airports requiring circling maneuvers, before the iPhone was a dream, using old Beta Max / VHS hand held cameras. Back in the day Sims in the US, let alone in other parts of the world were not approved. But I thank you for your comment. Happy circling maneuvers.

[@caprica_13]

@@jeffreysicular5119 It doesn't matter how long you've been instructing or flying - times are changing and so are techniques with the availability of newer technology. I agree that the timer method works in the sim but lacks any usefulness in the real world as winds aloft will change how long you should be flying that leg anyway. Flying a visual maneuver visually is fine, but much more difficult in a simulator. The visuals are nothing like the real world, especially when it comes to judging distances. Reducing this maneuver into methodical steps also makes sense since the conditions will most likely be identical between training and testing. We also don't do these maneuvers in real life flying anymore, anyone shooting a circle to land to actual minimums is crazy in my book. Way too high risk and completely unnecessary. Nearly every airport has RNAV approach to every runway these days, and if my last resort is a circle-to-land at mins, I'd rather divert somewhere that has a straight-in approach available. And don't start with the hurr-durr back in my day we used to shoot NDB approaches below mins, that's great but that doesn't mean we have to do that anymore. Technology has greatly improved, LPV approaches are so much better than any ILS even. If it were up to me, I would just yank this from our opspecs and stop training/testing circles, no advantage to it these days.