The only consistent thing about NHL referees is their inconsistency.
@russell-di8js17 сағат бұрын
National Hilarity League??
@enladio17 сағат бұрын
@@russell-di8js National Hypocrisy League
@enladio16 сағат бұрын
@@russell-di8js National Hypocrisy League
@b3n75115 сағат бұрын
"100% clean" " keep your head up" "know whos on the ice?" Ring a bell here leafs fans? Dumb fkn clowns. Karma.
@darcys84214 сағат бұрын
@@b3n751you can say whatever you want, but its still stupid as hell, because reeves still got penalized and suspended, setting the precedent that charging, hit to the heads are a 5 game suspension, and a match penalty. So here is a charging, hit to the head. Both hits were on a player that had there had down, and could have done things to better prepare themselves for a hit to make it legal, but didn't resulting in the hit being to the head. Sooooo, since the situations are so similar, clearly the nhl will follow its precede---. Wait, hold on, your telling me there's no penalty on the call? And now the leafs are on the kill? Like others have said, its a fuckin joke that one of these can be called so severely while the other gets nothing, if reeves got nothing you wouldn't hear complaints from me at least, and probably not from most fans.
@joshc83168 сағат бұрын
Vegas fan here. Whitecloud should be suspended. Consistency is needed in calls.
@korbendallas71813 сағат бұрын
Reeves shouldn't have gotten 5.
@avecaesar85193 сағат бұрын
Leafs fan here you are wrong it is a clean hit.
@joshc83163 сағат бұрын
@ I wouldn’t disagree. I don’t think he tried to jump into or make contact with Kane’s head. Whiteclouds hit is pretty intentional. If reaves is gone got 5, so should zach.
@joshc83163 сағат бұрын
@ I don’t agree. It looks like he tried to make head contact there at the end.
@ryanwallace5533 сағат бұрын
Leafs fan. Clean hit. I hate saying that, but I'm honest.
@JPMadden16 сағат бұрын
Deciding whether a penalty should be a major is inherently subjective. But giving Vegas a power play is ludicrous.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Yup, and no penalty for the hit
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Suck it up, they do it all the time, they ALWAYS get guys for retaliation... it's a joke... I agree, but don't think the league is rigged against TML or for VGK
@CodyMah47 минут бұрын
If this hit was on reaves instead of knies, none of you would be crying foul. It’s a clean hit and a learning opportunity for knies. It’s been so long since kronwall retired, everyone crying about it just doesn’t remember that these hits existed
@jeffreycairns76741 минут бұрын
@CodyMah The question is, if this hit was done by Reaves on any player, how many would be crying, especially if it went unpunished. These hits DID exist but the league has moved away from them. You can't say it's OK when certain players or teams do it but not others. It's either all or nothing and as much as I miss these kinds of hit, today's league hasn't allowed it, unless it's for or against certain teams and that's not right
@CodyMah36 минут бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767 the hits went away because the players that threw them did, not the hits themselves because of the league or rules. Doughty still occasionally throws these, dumba and gudas as well. They don’t get penalized either. Ballard, hamhuis, methot all did the same unpenalized before retiring. It’s not the league or rules, it’s the players.
@jbtwofour17 сағат бұрын
Remember! It's a conspiracy theory to say the referees are against the Leafs!
@russell-di8js17 сағат бұрын
Just poor standards of refereeing, no conspiracy needed.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
It's not against the Leafs, in this case, it's for the Knights, aka Bettman's team
@Xavier-01616 сағат бұрын
@@russell-di8js Consistent poor ref standards for Leafs games... hmmm...
@russell-di8js15 сағат бұрын
@@Xavier-016 Listen it's not just Leaf games, every fan base podcast claims bias Vs their team!
@pmonty42015 сағат бұрын
Copium is a hell of a drug lol
@syan918414 сағат бұрын
What's wild is Whitecloud didn't even get a 2 min penalty for that hit. The 2 he got was for roughing with Benoit. Poor Knies.. this will be his 2nd head injury and both times the perpetrators didn't get penalized for it. What a joke.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Sucks eh? Suck it up, enjoy getting dusted in the first round again, then blaming everyone but your team.
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45
@joeidaho59383 сағат бұрын
Ya....the one done by Bennett was such blatant intent to injure....and the NHL does nothing. And then Bennett repeats it again against Marchand...and gets nothing again....and then he tries it again against an Oiler player, I believe. Just sickening stuff.
@JohnnyLREACTS52 минут бұрын
Knies' biggest problem was that he toughed it out and got up off the ice. If he laid there like Nurse we might see some action.
@Par.k3r200817 сағат бұрын
Maybe not intentionally dirty, but a BAD HIT. The fact that Vegas got a power play off of this was pathetic Edit: it was 100% all head and dirty. Don’t give benefit of the doubt.
@banjonochallenge312017 сағат бұрын
The instigator rule is a joke
@timapple658616 сағат бұрын
How is leaping up with a chicken wing not intentionally dirty?? Did someone yank the rink out from under Whitecloud's skates? And this right after Reaves got 5 games for a 'cleaner' hit. Something is rotten in Denmark.
@Par.k3r200816 сағат бұрын
@ it was totally dirty idk why I said maybe not but it pissed me off and I’m not a big leafs fan
@Marixa197916 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 There was no chicken wing. Absolutely no elbow at all. How was the Reaves hit cleaner? Reaves didn't contact anything but head.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 When will people finally start seeing that it's rigged. Not necessarily against the Leafs but in general. Bettman's team has the least amount of penalties of any team this year and gets away with this bs hit?!
@phils673315 сағат бұрын
Even with replays they still get it wrong 😂 The day the refs are interviewed and held accountable after games is the day they start becoming better at their jobs.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
They got it totally right, you are just a whining loser leaf fan, like all the rest of them.
@timvyfvinkel454216 сағат бұрын
League Is a joke, this is why
@tonybrown80069 сағат бұрын
Why do you pay attention to it if it such a joke?
@divine._lion4 сағат бұрын
@@tonybrown8006 i was born in toronto and played hockey as a kid. every year come spring i wish i hadn't lol
@kevinbrown43003 сағат бұрын
No Leaf fans are a joke
@timvyfvinkel45422 сағат бұрын
@@kevinbrown4300 your mom has joke, everybody heard it
@kevinbrown4300Сағат бұрын
@timvyfvinkel4542 ok
@Exotic300015 сағат бұрын
The League needs to review this tomorrow! That is unacceptable!
@nathand646716 сағат бұрын
Brutal hit, wouldnt be surprised to see Kadri get a couple of games for this one.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Reaves, another 5 games
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
That's actually pretty hilarious, well done.
@MustafaR-k9t14 сағат бұрын
George Perros hates the leafs. Career ended by the leafs.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Nope, you just think this, I thought it was Kerry Fraser's fault? Or Bettmans? Or Gambling? Nah, just your delusional leaf fans nonsense.
@route59483 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant I think he means because Colton Orr knocked him out and had to be stretchered off the ice.
@Smf71612 минут бұрын
100% correct
@robertmoore86024 сағат бұрын
Vegas fan here. Upon further review, Nazem Kadri has been suspended 8 games.
@HiGuy-c1y13 сағат бұрын
Bettman doesn’t like Canadian teams this has been going on for 20+ years
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Nope, if there is ANY team in the league Bettman would want to go far it would be? the one with the most fans that would generate the most ratings. Your team management is incompetent for well over 20 years, quit blaming all your idiocy on Bettman, refs and all else. CAD teams have made a few finals in that time (VAN, CGY, EDM, OTT, MTL) they just have not won... Also it's no longer 6 teams, it is 32, so odds have changed. There is NO CONSPIRACY against Canada, you just need excuses to blame for your idiot management for last, what, well... since he's been in office. You idiots think bettman runs the league? Nah, the owners do. NOT A SINGLE THING HAPPENS WITHOUT THE OWNERS TELLING BETTMAN WHAT TO DO>
@snapperboat253 сағат бұрын
Please
@ljd103117 сағат бұрын
Sigh...ffs refs
@bucketophil3 сағат бұрын
Left his feet, elbow up, head contact. The B crew of officials and situation room folks were on site…and apparently intoxicated.
@dereksnively76922 сағат бұрын
Lol 😅
@fatalfoams2 сағат бұрын
leaf fans lol
@gnd14417 сағат бұрын
The league needs to put in place harsher rules for hitting the opponents head, targeted or not, the players could face long term medical consequences.
@farnorth731417 сағат бұрын
Have all the rules you want...with refs like this it will accomplish nothing.
@timapple658616 сағат бұрын
The rules are already in place. It's the lopsided, tainted enforcement that remains a problem.
@b3n75115 сағат бұрын
"100% clean" " keep your head up" "know whos on the ice?" Ring a bell here leafs fans? Dumb fkn clowns. Karma.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 It's only 'tainted' when it doesn't work in your favour... you morons were blaming nurse literally days ago, STFU
@dawsledger140716 сағат бұрын
Holy hell, gary bettman. i hope you like what you see and keep everyone employed that lets this shit keep happening. Great look for trying to grow the game 👎
@drfreeman8413 сағат бұрын
This was one of the worst calls of all time - leafs come away with a penalty in this? The player safety team is a joke overall for no call on this. Whoever reviewed this play should be taken out and take the same hit and tell us it was ok. -- What a insane situation. Like Reaves didn't leave his feet, yet this situation which is a CLEAR headshot and targeted. --- This should be a 5 min MATCH penalty and suspension for 5 games just like reaves. The fans should have rushed the damn ice and wrecked the dumb refs. **RIOT**
@Adam-dh3jc15 сағат бұрын
This is why the NHL has become a joke. Those refs should have to pay consequences for blowing calls that bad. What a joke.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv4 сағат бұрын
Wasn't a blown call lol. These comments are a joke if anything
@succreplays454616 сағат бұрын
Not a Leafs fan but that hit effing dirty. Whitecloud intentionally wanted to hurt Knies. Look at his feet, he really jumps for full impact. Hope Knies is OK.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Not even a penalty on the hit
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Idiot, his feet come off the ice AFTER the hit, which is what happens when 2 dudes skating about full speed collide. There was zero intention, unlike the idiot reaves which you employ.
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow
@thenickster01516 сағат бұрын
God forbid Bettman's baby gets held accountable
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Another moron leaf fan, Don't you think TML would he his baby? Wouldn't they get the highest ratings of any team in the NHL if they went farther? VGK is considered a small market team. Maybe focus on having decent management (like VGK) vs whining about bettman one day, then refs the next, then bettman, then refs. How about just winning.
@wallyb72074 сағат бұрын
This season has had some of the worst refereeing I've seen in 50 years, and that's saying a lot.
@craigharrison540613 сағат бұрын
Saturday headshots bad🤬 Today headshots OK👍
@theycallmesteviek17 сағат бұрын
The entire Rogers panel adamantly defending the hit is also super creepy I guess having watched and played hockey for 30 years gives me precisely no insight into what my eyes have just seen
@enladio17 сағат бұрын
they got a call from the league to toe the company line
@AdamHarris-k3f16 сағат бұрын
@@enladio YUP.
@AdamHarris-k3f16 сағат бұрын
They even went as far as to say he didn't leave his feet, when you can CLEARLY see that he did.
@Marixa197916 сағат бұрын
@@enladio That's the dumbest thing said ever. They don't work for the league.
@enladio16 сағат бұрын
@@Marixa1979 "dumbest thing said ever"? Wow. That's pretty impressive. 1st place. 2nd place must be "smoking is good for you" doctors circa 1950s. Wonder what 3rd place could be.
@DarylRenz17 сағат бұрын
Haha. The good old NHL. It depends on what team is hitting , and what team is receiving ,
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@joeidaho593816 сағат бұрын
That was an obvious head hit, because Whitecloud clearly went upwards...off his feet....and hit him in the face with the elbow.
@Nighthawks4415 сағат бұрын
You’re the reason the league will go soft. It’s through the body the head wasn’t targeted. He’s half a foot taller. That hit was cleaner than ya motha
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
WOW, just WOW... the elbow? We watching the same replay? It was his shoulder, then after the hit, his elbow moved out when knies was moving the other way. He came off his feet AFTER The contact, which, is what happens when 2 dudes going 10-15 k run into each other. How clueless can you idiot leaf fans be?
@Buggiestyle5 сағат бұрын
Point of contact was the chest.
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 and try and repeat what you just wrote, lol
@Buggiestyle5 сағат бұрын
@ yep, paused at 46 seconds. Feet on the ice and hit the square of the chest, forward momentum of the leaf player forced his head to his the vegas players shoulder. Correct decision on the ice, we move on
@agedskator14 сағат бұрын
Corruption and I'm not even a Leafs fan! NHL is Liable
@realmoftheunknown-w8d14 сағат бұрын
great job NHL with a blatant hit to the head getting reviewed and not even a penalty. What a joke
@2many_sodiumz58715 сағат бұрын
Im with Joe on this one. That was a bad hit any other day. I'm no conspiracy theorist but its getting harder and harder not to see the obvious inconsistencies with reffing constantly
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
I think all players should wear skirts and avoid breathing around each other.
@kdtarabell8 сағат бұрын
Think the refs need to go back to school.
@VidWatcher-v4j14 сағат бұрын
Knies head butted Whitecloud's elbow.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
it was actually his shoulder, but idiot knies should 'know who's on the ice and where he is on the ice' Like nurse right?
@willmartin92312 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant the only difference being that Knies saw Whitecloud coming and was anticipating a legal hit, not an arm to the head. Nurse had his head down and was clueless which makes him an idiot
@troywallace701117 сағат бұрын
Watch how fast the refs jumped in to defend the knights player lol
@michaelsaville998517 сағат бұрын
They knew he would get jumped and rushed to intervene but didn’t care Kniesy caught one in the chin
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Yup, and the Knights got the PP out of it. Absolute bs
@johnathonstewart666615 сағат бұрын
Buddy open the NHL rulebook. Rule #1.1: The Toronto Maple Leafs, under no circumstances, are allowed to defend themselves for any reason.
@b3n75115 сағат бұрын
"100% clean" " keep your head up" "know whos on the ice?" Ring a bell here leafs fans? Dumb fkn clowns. Karma.
@mrme816210 сағат бұрын
@@b3n751 both huge hits. the difference is.. our guy actually got a major and suspended 5 games for it. vegas does it worse and walks away with a power play. the problem isnt the hit as much as the inconsistency of calls. youre clearly clowning around if you cant comprehend that
@stevefowler442716 сағат бұрын
As a habs/ hockey fan I'll tend to look at the hit, and I guess 80% blame the one getting hit, for not protecting himself first. Turning your back on the play etc.. But this is BS. Whitecloud had his arm up and was aiming for his head. Knies didn't lower his head at all prior too. Whitecloud lunged up, with total intent. I see him getting suspended for this, and should of gotten kicked out..
@Marixa197916 сағат бұрын
Whitecloud's arm was pinned to his body going into the hit. Knies was bent over going into the hit 100%. Whitecloud did absolutely drive his momentum up into the hit, but never left the ice prior to the hit. There's almost certainly going to be no suspension.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
There wasn't even a penalty on it
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Stop the replay AT CONTACT, where TF is his 'arm up' at contact? Not after, at contact, it is tucked to his side. PERIOD.
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow
@pethcir16 сағат бұрын
Possibly the worst call of the season. This is how you lose fans.
@korbendallas718112 сағат бұрын
Destroyed him
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Best call ever, Leafs should lose fans because they are nothing since 67, keep making mLSE rich, drone
@OleFredrik5 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant It's difficult to match your low iq from what you wrote here. You should apply for a ref i NHL.
@fatalfoams2 сағат бұрын
was a great hit, knies got fucked
@dliang462815 сағат бұрын
Refs are totally disgraceful on this play... that's a BAD HIGH HIT on Knies!!! Hope he is OK 🙏🙏🙏
@HarryANuis-gi9hz17 сағат бұрын
Any other team that’s a major and suspension but cause it’s Vegas he gets just a minor… what a surprise.
@enladio17 сағат бұрын
he got a minor for the fight afterwards, nothing for the hit.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
@@enladioExactly
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767 Jealous VGK walked into the league and won the very thing in a couple years you morons havent won in nearly 60? STFU
@gastondeveaux378316 сағат бұрын
Worst call of the year. And I am not a Leafs fan. Whitecloud leaves his feat and there is head contact. WTF?
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
I'm glad some non Leafs fans are calling it what it is. All fanbases need to stick together on these kinds of things
@Marixa197916 сағат бұрын
Head contact does not immediately mean it's a penalty. Reaves' penalty was because he contacted Nurse's head, and only his head, there wasn't a path at all through Nurse's body. Whitecloud's hit is head on, directly through the core of Knies, and the head contact was only because he was bent over. Like Leaf fans said 1000000 times on the Nurse hit, Knies' needs to keep his head up to avoid contact.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
@Marixa1979 He hit Knies in the chin and drove upwards. The only reason he made any contact with the body is because it was basically head on. At no point was he going for Knies' body, it was always the head
@Kartracer615 сағат бұрын
I used to work medical for chicago and rockford. Standing in the tunnel with the officials and players taught me 1 thing. The officiating is corrupt and the officials aren't shy about it. There is no accountability.
@Marixa197915 сағат бұрын
@@Kartracer6 If you have evidence of it, you should absolutely get it out there and expose it, instead of just saying things with nothing to back it up.
@russell-di8js17 сағат бұрын
Dreadful decision by the stripes & no coincidence from LV point of view to attempt to take Knies out the game as he's 1 of the Leafs most dynamic players recently! Surely the National Hilarity League will review this hit??
@mlk545417 сағат бұрын
Don’t hold your breath
@Leafsdude17 сағат бұрын
They just did... 🤦♂
@enladio16 сағат бұрын
National Hypocrisy League
@liltiger315 сағат бұрын
Joe Bowen is such a voice of the people.
@canadasugardaddysugardaddy179714 сағат бұрын
Joe Bowen is a joke.
@ClayBall-im1km8 сағат бұрын
Looks like a good clean hit. Skates on the ice and elbow tucked in on contact. Yes, Whiteclouds skates leave the ice post compact (not illegal). Carry on.
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow. you are correct
@taylors5878 сағат бұрын
Get that plug Parros out of there, theres a guy named Bieksa that has some common sense.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Leafs fans talking 'common sense' Just hilarious!
@1020jimbo9 сағат бұрын
Not really a leafs fan but I am 100% certain what I am seeing in this video is an elevated shoulder and elbow check to a players head. I have no idea what the referees are seeing when they watch the same video. 🤷♂️ The NHL needs to stop saying they have the best officials in pro sports. It's just not true!
@Jack-lz9ft2 сағат бұрын
The leafs should not have been shorthanded
@rhondacroswell453115 сағат бұрын
Whitehead leaves his feet and does a direct hit to the others players head that is a disgusting play. If I was the leafs management and coaching staff I would be livid. How in the world is that hit not a major penalty.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Feet come up post hit, they were maybe 1 inch off the ice at contact. Do you morons realize how much worse this would have been if he had been firmly planted? FN moron leaf fans.
@martinvermeer151417 сағат бұрын
Change Department of Player Safety to Department of Random Decisions that make no sense and have nothing to do with Player Safety.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
How about change it to Delusional Leaf Fans Are Always Whining. Remember when you said it was Nurse fault for allowing Reaves to hit him in the head? LOL>...
@fredrickolsen83816 сағат бұрын
He even left his feet and jumped into the hit. Obvious major penalty and game misconduct.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
His feet came up after, he didn't 'jump' into him. Also, do you not understand him being firmly planted on the ice would have been way worse. It is so much better if they are 1 inch off the ice for the head and the knees of both parties. He was off the ice at contact, then was pushed up into the air cuz knies was lower and 2 guys skating 10 k into each other at about 200+ lbs each made contact.,
@keithbevins668816 сағат бұрын
It's calls like these that reminds me to not spend a thousand dollars, or more, taking "one" of my kids to a Leaf's game. The NHL officials, George Parros, the owners, and managers, and the NHL situation room in Toronto can all: Take-Off. The NHL situation room, and all the staff who want to keep their jobs, should be moved to Arizona. Have fun and good bye. At least then Arizona can feel some love from NHL Gary. The Leafs might win more challenges, get fairer calls, and not have to play like they have a target symbol on their backs.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
As long as Bettman is still around, he'll always be again Canadian teams, especially the Leafs. In this case, though, it wasn't specifically against the Leafs but for Bettman's team
@Marixa197916 сағат бұрын
The Leafs win by far the majority of their challenges.
@Marixa197916 сағат бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767 Bettman has nothing to do with any of the calls. It's just the Leaf fans playing victim.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
@Marixa1979 The same way Leafs fans called out Reaves' dirty hit? This was definitely dirty, as was the Reaves hit. The only reason this wasn't called is because it's Vegas
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
@Marixa1979 You're kidding, right? There's very few teams that have get less calls go their way
@DelightfulGreyElephant-ie1oh17 сағат бұрын
That is a hit to the Head
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Literally the most appropriate comment on here. He did hit him in the head. None of this 'he jumped at him' or he 'elbowed him' None of that. Shoulder, head, contact. Knies needs to keep his head up, but, he hit him in the head. However, so did Perry to Tavares in the PO years back. Should Perry have been suspended cuz head was hit? Nope. That said 1-2 games.
@DelightfulGreyElephant-ie1oh5 сағат бұрын
@randombutrelevant you should pay more attention. His head was up
@davecutler34277 сағат бұрын
NHL officiating and the league itself is a joke. How is one hit to the head where the hitter doesn't leave his feet warrent a five game suspension where as another hit to the head where the hitter's skates lift two feet off the ice not even a two minute penalty? Sad.
@matthewajtay97007 сағат бұрын
This isn’t refs. It’s coming from Toronto upstairs. They riding a sausage from Vegas. Choking right down on it deep.
@noobfemdom219611 сағат бұрын
Bettman, continuing the genocide...
@torontorox8 сағат бұрын
“department of player safety always goes against the #leafs “ Bones
@rolandbisson702513 сағат бұрын
Wow That is a direct hit to the head, his feet left the ice by at least a foot antd to think the refs reviewed the play its a disgrace
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Feet came up post hit you clown, stop the tape at point of contact. So GD clueless.
@Dd9494916 сағат бұрын
Garbage call. GARBAGE.
@valf.458917 сағат бұрын
Holy crap. Unbelievable. Total BS.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv4 сағат бұрын
Why, and how
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 skates on the ice, elbow 6 inches below chin
@snapperboat253 сағат бұрын
Go 10 seconds further
@derekl349514 минут бұрын
@@snapperboat25 10 seconds later, Knies is lying on the ice. your point?
@alex35agm15 сағат бұрын
How was this not a major penalty?Poor decision by the refs.He actually lifted himself off the ice to hit him.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Nope, he was lifted by the contact of 2 200+ lb dudes hitting each other at 10-15 KM and knies was lower (leverage, as in lift) and Whitecloud was higher.
@brandongonzalez603416 сағат бұрын
Matthew Knies has been nothing but promising. And now he has his second severe hit to the head in his career. This gong show empty headed circus that Bettman's running better clean this up or every dynamic player will have CTE by 30. Inexcusable.
@Jack-lz9ft2 сағат бұрын
Should have been ten games the reeves one
@Deplorable069816 сағат бұрын
I call it what it is and this call was absolute BS . The league needs to look at this and act accordingly
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
They won't
@ginodelgobbo923717 сағат бұрын
Knies was having a great season. Thats too bad.
@patreiger893617 сағат бұрын
He left his feet
@AdamHarris-k3f16 сағат бұрын
This was WORSE than the Reaves hit on Nurse. Number 1, he leaves his feet, Reaves didn't. Number two, his ELBOW hits his head. With Reaves, it was his shoulder because Nurse was bent down. In this instance, the HEAD was the primary point of contact. But hey, it's the leafs, so, let's just give Whitcloud a 2 minute minor, and we'll give Vegas a powerplay. This won't even be a suspension, but it should be just as much as Reaves, if not, MORE. This proves AGAIN, that the league doesn't want the Leafs to win. HOW MANY TIMES WILL WE SEE PROOF WITH NOTHING DONE...WHAT A JOKE!!!!
@timapple658616 сағат бұрын
To be fair, Reaves *did* slew-foot the dude and so did deserve some measure of suspension. And it's still early days, let's wait and see how the league handles the Whitecloud hit.
@AdamHarris-k3f16 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 He didn't "slew foot" him. No chance.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
There was no penalty on the hit. It wasn't specifically against the Leafs, it was for Bettman's team
@b3n75115 сағат бұрын
100% clean hit.
@panjangneem12 сағат бұрын
If you believe it’s worse than the nurse hit there’s no help for you 1-Reaves only hit Nurses head… this wasn’t principle contact with head, was a right shoulder hit with arm tucked no head at all 2-This is NorthSouth not a blindside like Reaves was 3- this is actually a hockey play
@DanielGanes14 сағат бұрын
Such a diverse group of zebras on the ice. Some have no eyes! 👀
@hoolie200016 сағат бұрын
Should be a three-game suspension but you know it won't be because it's Toronto
@viewfromthehighchair9391Сағат бұрын
Thank heavens for Joe Bowen, the true voice of reason. His reaction to the decision was almost as strong as mine but, to be fair, I wasn't broadcasting to a million+ people at the time.
@Loimike3116 сағат бұрын
Refs are a joke.
@doobymaster699717 сағат бұрын
Here’s the decision maker for refs. Knies got got up too quickly. So, no injury to refs, hence no call, it must have been a clean open ice hit - leaving his feet and shoulder into Knies’ head. Sure! If Knies had milked it and perhaps they fetched a stretcher, decision could have been different. Not sayin’ that would be right, but it would have made it questionable. Kudos to Knies for shaking it off.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Against Bettman's team? No, they were never calling a penalty. Least penalized team this year. Half as many called as called against the Leafs
@kfjdsoihf845210 сағат бұрын
The difference between Reaves hit and this one indeed was the principal point of contact. Here Whitecloud is targeting the body/head at the same time but main target is the upper body. However he jumps at the time of the impact and that should be also considered for a stricter penalty. Tough call.
@bluethunder19518 сағат бұрын
I disagree, he never jumped, contact was made with both skates on the ice and the impact caused him to be lifted off the ice. Good hit.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
FFS, he DOES NOT JUMP AT THE TIME OF IMPACT, look at the FN replay, his skates are on the ice, then the fact that Knies is lower and he is higher and they are colliding at 10k each into each other makes him rise. Also, you clowns have no clue that keeping both feet 100% on the ice is even worse for potential knee/leg injuries for BOTH parties. If he is firm on the ice, this is way worse for Knies. I don't get how people can't figure this out. That said 1-2 game for the head (intentionally or not) being principle.
@bluethunder19514 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant ffs, calm down, we can make our views without you screaming.
@NebulinTV4 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevantyou are an idiot. No matter what you can’t leave the ice in a hit you delusional idiot. Go vote for the libtards because you don’t understand hockey. Knies is 6 foot 3 and skating with his head up. There is no way he should be hit to the head in this scenario, it’s completely intentional. You can’t unintentionally leave the ice on a hit hahaha. I’ve played hockey for over 23 years and that’s completely intentional.
@kfjdsoihf8452Сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant he does jump while hitting him...I mean...... are you blind?
@timvyfvinkel454216 сағат бұрын
Dumb officials and Dumb Safety department
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Been whining since Kerry Fraser, never change whiners, never change.
@Sc-How16 сағат бұрын
After reeves being suspended for 5 games I expect whitecloud to get the same treatment especially after he exploded upwards after hitting knies’ head.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Are you serious? 1. No penalty. 2. Bettman's team. Nothing will come of it, guaranteed. It's not right but welcome to Bettman's league
@CorrespondentHCNS15 сағат бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767his being sarcastic
@jeffreycairns76715 сағат бұрын
@@CorrespondentHCNS I should hope so. There's no way they punish Vegas like they would most other teams
@bluethunder19518 сағат бұрын
In slow motion his skates left the ice AFTER contact his elbow was down and tucked into his body, no direct attempt to hit the head, GOOD HIT.
@mrfunny94257 сағат бұрын
Ruling says doesn’t matter what the ampt was still a headshot
@bluethunder19517 сағат бұрын
@ he never lifted his elbow or make any attempt to hit the head, his head ran into the arm and shoulder. Clearly you can see that?
@Soyellow176 сағат бұрын
You can make that same argument for Reaves but he still got 5 games. And it's clear he started exploding upwards towards the upper part of knies before he makes contact
@bluethunder19516 сағат бұрын
@ Yes, he started to brace for impact but his skates were on the ice at the very instant of contact, the refs can see that on these iPads. As for Reaves he intentionally went for the head, made no attempt not too.
@mikeleo599010 сағат бұрын
As a leaf fan I’m not tryin to be biased but no other fan base is gonna tell me that hit was not head first contact - reeves gets 5 ?????
@cashlynnzwaryczuk646516 сағат бұрын
He jumps and elbow wtf is this
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Elbow? Moron, stop the tape at contact, his shoulder is tucked to his side, can't be more text book. His feet are maybe 1 inch off ice at contact, then they go up, because 2 dudes trucking into each other 200lbs each at 10 k. So, from now on, if any skate is off the ice 1 cm, penalty for 'jumping' FFS. If he keeps his feet firmly planted, Knies is in the hospital, go watch a reverse hit.
@cashlynnzwaryczuk64655 сағат бұрын
@ jeez calling me the moron don’t think you can talk if you can’t see how he throws his elbow out and it’s still head contact and what are you saying if you leave your feet on a hit it’s should always be a penalty it doesn’t matter how high. MORON
@TmanTyler61912 сағат бұрын
Such a bad hit. I’m sure all of us are fans of a good hit and they’re rarely thrown anymore so for him to hit him illegally and target the face is just pathetic. Could’ve hip checked him but nope wants to be dirty
@terryliamakeros455215 сағат бұрын
The worst part is the made up rough on whitecloud couldn’t get that right
@r2jd14 сағат бұрын
Remember, they're REALLY trying to get head shots outta the game.
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Perfect comment. "Hits to the head bad' Bare Knuckle boxing? No problem! You all whine about the hit, but would be pumped if Benoit bare knuckle punched him.... directly in the head with full intent to injure. Hilarous.
@jameshammond85739 сағат бұрын
Sickening
@theycallmesteviek17 сағат бұрын
what is going on with player safety 😵💫
@farnorth731417 сағат бұрын
Reaves should be dressing for the 3rd period...same hit as he put on Nurse...both refs should be suspended.
@jeffreycairns76716 сағат бұрын
Bettman's team
@b3n75115 сағат бұрын
Not even close to the same hit.
@panjangneem13 сағат бұрын
Nope not same Whitecloud is actually an NHLer Reeves is a goon
@farnorth73146 сағат бұрын
@@panjangneem Even if that is true (not)...are there two different rule books??
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
You should be suspended as a clueless hockey 'fan'
@jasonparish469817 сағат бұрын
Wow unbelievable
@KevinSpencer-t4i13 сағат бұрын
Bush League Ref's and then some.
@davidwhidden93375 сағат бұрын
I love how people are crying about he left his feet. While at the point of impact his feet are clearly still on the ice. People. Leaving your feet is when you ARE AIRBORN at time of impact. Luke Schenn used to be like this.
@JohnCritch-tf4mb17 сағат бұрын
55 high sticked him first as well.
@JLFinnie1237 сағат бұрын
It's almost like some big money has the refs go hard on one team and soft on the other...nah not in pro sports
@dalegeorge83249 сағат бұрын
Whitecloud should get a suspension
@HappyBanjo-oc3pc15 сағат бұрын
As a Leafs fan this call made me furious. Thankfully the Leafs won.
@Hammer-ch5gv7 сағат бұрын
Good solid bodycheck.
@dalegeorge83249 сағат бұрын
I agree joe
@ryanwallace5533 сағат бұрын
It sucks to say this because I'm a big Leafs/Knies fan, but I think it was clean. His feet were planted, elbow down, and he aimed for his chest. Yeah, he did hit his head, but it was clearly not targeted. Hockey is a fast sport, and he just caught him. I don't like seeing guys get hurt, but it is a risk. My 2 cents 🤷♂️
@tylerfortin323915 сағат бұрын
Reaves hit: 4" to the left its shoulder on shoulder. No intentional targeting and a play on the puck was made. Whitecloud hit: clear targeting of the head, no real potential for a hit to the chest unless he m owers himelf a foot, initial contact still to the head AND no play on the puck
@JCDenton200011 сағат бұрын
I swear nobody knows how to give a clean hit anymore, and nobody knows how to take one either.
@FalconFlyer7514 сағат бұрын
Wtf his feet were OFF the ice And they get a POWER PLAY?
@randombutrelevant5 сағат бұрын
Post hit contact cause his feet to come up like that, what happens when the lower dude hits the higher dude colliding 200+ lbs each at 10 km into each other. You have any clue how much worse it would have been if he was firmly planted? Ever see a 'reverse hit' Morons.
@derekl34955 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow
@tysajlisap265613 сағат бұрын
Nurse skated into Reave’s shoulder 😂🤣
@MustafaR-k9t14 сағат бұрын
Guy left his feet.
@stjn1415 сағат бұрын
Fire Eric Furlatt... consistently screws over the leafs, fire george paros and bettman for the same. At a certain point the leafs as a team need to do something about how biased the officiating is. I'd support them if they decided not to show up at all for a game out of protest, call the games with some consistency and without bias against one of your biggest cash cows. Absolutely disgusting, I'd rather pay double what they charge to watch these games legally to someone else than give the NHL another dime. After bringing down the hammer for reaves we lose a player to a head hit and have to go on the penalty kill. There is no sane fan of any team in this league who can look at this and say this is not clear as day evidence of an antileaf bias. This is why the game isn't growing and why they need a billion ads to make any money.
@alanscobie24503 сағат бұрын
What the HELL is wrong the NHL. Ryan Reeves gets a 5 game suspension, and Whitecloud gets nothing. Shame on the NHL.
@judlane777 сағат бұрын
Elbow out and arm flails towards Nies, criminal call by refs and league
@tomlarocque47204 сағат бұрын
Excellent call. Anyone considering a bad call is not a hockey person.
@ronevens8268Сағат бұрын
was a clean hit .Even leaf panel agreed. Not a leaf fan, but feel bad for the kid ,had a concussion in junior ,and now 2nd one in the nhl, could be a Lindros situation, short hockey career