Knies gets hit high by Whitecloud (w/Joe Bowen)

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@KL-qs9bn
@KL-qs9bn 17 сағат бұрын
The only consistent thing about NHL referees is their inconsistency.
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 17 сағат бұрын
National Hilarity League??
@enladio
@enladio 17 сағат бұрын
@@russell-di8js National Hypocrisy League
@enladio
@enladio 16 сағат бұрын
@@russell-di8js National Hypocrisy League
@b3n751
@b3n751 15 сағат бұрын
"100% clean" " keep your head up" "know whos on the ice?" Ring a bell here leafs fans? Dumb fkn clowns. Karma.
@darcys842
@darcys842 14 сағат бұрын
​@@b3n751you can say whatever you want, but its still stupid as hell, because reeves still got penalized and suspended, setting the precedent that charging, hit to the heads are a 5 game suspension, and a match penalty. So here is a charging, hit to the head. Both hits were on a player that had there had down, and could have done things to better prepare themselves for a hit to make it legal, but didn't resulting in the hit being to the head. Sooooo, since the situations are so similar, clearly the nhl will follow its precede---. Wait, hold on, your telling me there's no penalty on the call? And now the leafs are on the kill? Like others have said, its a fuckin joke that one of these can be called so severely while the other gets nothing, if reeves got nothing you wouldn't hear complaints from me at least, and probably not from most fans.
@joshc8316
@joshc8316 8 сағат бұрын
Vegas fan here. Whitecloud should be suspended. Consistency is needed in calls.
@korbendallas7181
@korbendallas7181 3 сағат бұрын
Reeves shouldn't have gotten 5.
@avecaesar8519
@avecaesar8519 3 сағат бұрын
Leafs fan here you are wrong it is a clean hit.
@joshc8316
@joshc8316 3 сағат бұрын
@ I wouldn’t disagree. I don’t think he tried to jump into or make contact with Kane’s head. Whiteclouds hit is pretty intentional. If reaves is gone got 5, so should zach.
@joshc8316
@joshc8316 3 сағат бұрын
@ I don’t agree. It looks like he tried to make head contact there at the end.
@ryanwallace553
@ryanwallace553 3 сағат бұрын
Leafs fan. Clean hit. I hate saying that, but I'm honest.
@JPMadden
@JPMadden 16 сағат бұрын
Deciding whether a penalty should be a major is inherently subjective. But giving Vegas a power play is ludicrous.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Yup, and no penalty for the hit
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Suck it up, they do it all the time, they ALWAYS get guys for retaliation... it's a joke... I agree, but don't think the league is rigged against TML or for VGK
@CodyMah
@CodyMah 47 минут бұрын
If this hit was on reaves instead of knies, none of you would be crying foul. It’s a clean hit and a learning opportunity for knies. It’s been so long since kronwall retired, everyone crying about it just doesn’t remember that these hits existed
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 41 минут бұрын
@CodyMah The question is, if this hit was done by Reaves on any player, how many would be crying, especially if it went unpunished. These hits DID exist but the league has moved away from them. You can't say it's OK when certain players or teams do it but not others. It's either all or nothing and as much as I miss these kinds of hit, today's league hasn't allowed it, unless it's for or against certain teams and that's not right
@CodyMah
@CodyMah 36 минут бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767 the hits went away because the players that threw them did, not the hits themselves because of the league or rules. Doughty still occasionally throws these, dumba and gudas as well. They don’t get penalized either. Ballard, hamhuis, methot all did the same unpenalized before retiring. It’s not the league or rules, it’s the players.
@jbtwofour
@jbtwofour 17 сағат бұрын
Remember! It's a conspiracy theory to say the referees are against the Leafs!
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 17 сағат бұрын
Just poor standards of refereeing, no conspiracy needed.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
It's not against the Leafs, in this case, it's for the Knights, aka Bettman's team
@Xavier-016
@Xavier-016 16 сағат бұрын
@@russell-di8js Consistent poor ref standards for Leafs games... hmmm...
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 15 сағат бұрын
@@Xavier-016 Listen it's not just Leaf games, every fan base podcast claims bias Vs their team!
@pmonty420
@pmonty420 15 сағат бұрын
Copium is a hell of a drug lol
@syan9184
@syan9184 14 сағат бұрын
What's wild is Whitecloud didn't even get a 2 min penalty for that hit. The 2 he got was for roughing with Benoit. Poor Knies.. this will be his 2nd head injury and both times the perpetrators didn't get penalized for it. What a joke.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Sucks eh? Suck it up, enjoy getting dusted in the first round again, then blaming everyone but your team.
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45
@joeidaho5938
@joeidaho5938 3 сағат бұрын
Ya....the one done by Bennett was such blatant intent to injure....and the NHL does nothing. And then Bennett repeats it again against Marchand...and gets nothing again....and then he tries it again against an Oiler player, I believe. Just sickening stuff.
@JohnnyLREACTS
@JohnnyLREACTS 52 минут бұрын
Knies' biggest problem was that he toughed it out and got up off the ice. If he laid there like Nurse we might see some action.
@Par.k3r2008
@Par.k3r2008 17 сағат бұрын
Maybe not intentionally dirty, but a BAD HIT. The fact that Vegas got a power play off of this was pathetic Edit: it was 100% all head and dirty. Don’t give benefit of the doubt.
@banjonochallenge3120
@banjonochallenge3120 17 сағат бұрын
The instigator rule is a joke
@timapple6586
@timapple6586 16 сағат бұрын
How is leaping up with a chicken wing not intentionally dirty?? Did someone yank the rink out from under Whitecloud's skates? And this right after Reaves got 5 games for a 'cleaner' hit. Something is rotten in Denmark.
@Par.k3r2008
@Par.k3r2008 16 сағат бұрын
@ it was totally dirty idk why I said maybe not but it pissed me off and I’m not a big leafs fan
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 16 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 There was no chicken wing. Absolutely no elbow at all. How was the Reaves hit cleaner? Reaves didn't contact anything but head.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
​@@timapple6586 When will people finally start seeing that it's rigged. Not necessarily against the Leafs but in general. Bettman's team has the least amount of penalties of any team this year and gets away with this bs hit?!
@phils6733
@phils6733 15 сағат бұрын
Even with replays they still get it wrong 😂 The day the refs are interviewed and held accountable after games is the day they start becoming better at their jobs.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
They got it totally right, you are just a whining loser leaf fan, like all the rest of them.
@timvyfvinkel4542
@timvyfvinkel4542 16 сағат бұрын
League Is a joke, this is why
@tonybrown8006
@tonybrown8006 9 сағат бұрын
Why do you pay attention to it if it such a joke?
@divine._lion
@divine._lion 4 сағат бұрын
@@tonybrown8006 i was born in toronto and played hockey as a kid. every year come spring i wish i hadn't lol
@kevinbrown4300
@kevinbrown4300 3 сағат бұрын
No Leaf fans are a joke
@timvyfvinkel4542
@timvyfvinkel4542 2 сағат бұрын
@@kevinbrown4300 your mom has joke, everybody heard it
@kevinbrown4300
@kevinbrown4300 Сағат бұрын
@timvyfvinkel4542 ok
@Exotic3000
@Exotic3000 15 сағат бұрын
The League needs to review this tomorrow! That is unacceptable!
@nathand6467
@nathand6467 16 сағат бұрын
Brutal hit, wouldnt be surprised to see Kadri get a couple of games for this one.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Reaves, another 5 games
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
That's actually pretty hilarious, well done.
@MustafaR-k9t
@MustafaR-k9t 14 сағат бұрын
George Perros hates the leafs. Career ended by the leafs.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Nope, you just think this, I thought it was Kerry Fraser's fault? Or Bettmans? Or Gambling? Nah, just your delusional leaf fans nonsense.
@route5948
@route5948 3 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant I think he means because Colton Orr knocked him out and had to be stretchered off the ice.
@Smf7161
@Smf7161 2 минут бұрын
100% correct
@robertmoore8602
@robertmoore8602 4 сағат бұрын
Vegas fan here. Upon further review, Nazem Kadri has been suspended 8 games.
@HiGuy-c1y
@HiGuy-c1y 13 сағат бұрын
Bettman doesn’t like Canadian teams this has been going on for 20+ years
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Nope, if there is ANY team in the league Bettman would want to go far it would be? the one with the most fans that would generate the most ratings. Your team management is incompetent for well over 20 years, quit blaming all your idiocy on Bettman, refs and all else. CAD teams have made a few finals in that time (VAN, CGY, EDM, OTT, MTL) they just have not won... Also it's no longer 6 teams, it is 32, so odds have changed. There is NO CONSPIRACY against Canada, you just need excuses to blame for your idiot management for last, what, well... since he's been in office. You idiots think bettman runs the league? Nah, the owners do. NOT A SINGLE THING HAPPENS WITHOUT THE OWNERS TELLING BETTMAN WHAT TO DO>
@snapperboat25
@snapperboat25 3 сағат бұрын
Please
@ljd1031
@ljd1031 17 сағат бұрын
Sigh...ffs refs
@bucketophil
@bucketophil 3 сағат бұрын
Left his feet, elbow up, head contact. The B crew of officials and situation room folks were on site…and apparently intoxicated.
@dereksnively7692
@dereksnively7692 2 сағат бұрын
Lol 😅
@fatalfoams
@fatalfoams 2 сағат бұрын
leaf fans lol
@gnd144
@gnd144 17 сағат бұрын
The league needs to put in place harsher rules for hitting the opponents head, targeted or not, the players could face long term medical consequences.
@farnorth7314
@farnorth7314 17 сағат бұрын
Have all the rules you want...with refs like this it will accomplish nothing.
@timapple6586
@timapple6586 16 сағат бұрын
The rules are already in place. It's the lopsided, tainted enforcement that remains a problem.
@b3n751
@b3n751 15 сағат бұрын
"100% clean" " keep your head up" "know whos on the ice?" Ring a bell here leafs fans? Dumb fkn clowns. Karma.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 It's only 'tainted' when it doesn't work in your favour... you morons were blaming nurse literally days ago, STFU
@dawsledger1407
@dawsledger1407 16 сағат бұрын
Holy hell, gary bettman. i hope you like what you see and keep everyone employed that lets this shit keep happening. Great look for trying to grow the game 👎
@drfreeman84
@drfreeman84 13 сағат бұрын
This was one of the worst calls of all time - leafs come away with a penalty in this? The player safety team is a joke overall for no call on this. Whoever reviewed this play should be taken out and take the same hit and tell us it was ok. -- What a insane situation. Like Reaves didn't leave his feet, yet this situation which is a CLEAR headshot and targeted. --- This should be a 5 min MATCH penalty and suspension for 5 games just like reaves. The fans should have rushed the damn ice and wrecked the dumb refs. **RIOT**
@Adam-dh3jc
@Adam-dh3jc 15 сағат бұрын
This is why the NHL has become a joke. Those refs should have to pay consequences for blowing calls that bad. What a joke.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv 4 сағат бұрын
Wasn't a blown call lol. These comments are a joke if anything
@succreplays4546
@succreplays4546 16 сағат бұрын
Not a Leafs fan but that hit effing dirty. Whitecloud intentionally wanted to hurt Knies. Look at his feet, he really jumps for full impact. Hope Knies is OK.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Not even a penalty on the hit
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Idiot, his feet come off the ice AFTER the hit, which is what happens when 2 dudes skating about full speed collide. There was zero intention, unlike the idiot reaves which you employ.
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow
@thenickster015
@thenickster015 16 сағат бұрын
God forbid Bettman's baby gets held accountable
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Another moron leaf fan, Don't you think TML would he his baby? Wouldn't they get the highest ratings of any team in the NHL if they went farther? VGK is considered a small market team. Maybe focus on having decent management (like VGK) vs whining about bettman one day, then refs the next, then bettman, then refs. How about just winning.
@wallyb7207
@wallyb7207 4 сағат бұрын
This season has had some of the worst refereeing I've seen in 50 years, and that's saying a lot.
@craigharrison5406
@craigharrison5406 13 сағат бұрын
Saturday headshots bad🤬 Today headshots OK👍
@theycallmesteviek
@theycallmesteviek 17 сағат бұрын
The entire Rogers panel adamantly defending the hit is also super creepy I guess having watched and played hockey for 30 years gives me precisely no insight into what my eyes have just seen
@enladio
@enladio 17 сағат бұрын
they got a call from the league to toe the company line
@AdamHarris-k3f
@AdamHarris-k3f 16 сағат бұрын
@@enladio YUP.
@AdamHarris-k3f
@AdamHarris-k3f 16 сағат бұрын
They even went as far as to say he didn't leave his feet, when you can CLEARLY see that he did.
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 16 сағат бұрын
@@enladio That's the dumbest thing said ever. They don't work for the league.
@enladio
@enladio 16 сағат бұрын
@@Marixa1979 "dumbest thing said ever"? Wow. That's pretty impressive. 1st place. 2nd place must be "smoking is good for you" doctors circa 1950s. Wonder what 3rd place could be.
@DarylRenz
@DarylRenz 17 сағат бұрын
Haha. The good old NHL. It depends on what team is hitting , and what team is receiving ,
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@joeidaho5938
@joeidaho5938 16 сағат бұрын
That was an obvious head hit, because Whitecloud clearly went upwards...off his feet....and hit him in the face with the elbow.
@Nighthawks44
@Nighthawks44 15 сағат бұрын
You’re the reason the league will go soft. It’s through the body the head wasn’t targeted. He’s half a foot taller. That hit was cleaner than ya motha
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
WOW, just WOW... the elbow? We watching the same replay? It was his shoulder, then after the hit, his elbow moved out when knies was moving the other way. He came off his feet AFTER The contact, which, is what happens when 2 dudes going 10-15 k run into each other. How clueless can you idiot leaf fans be?
@Buggiestyle
@Buggiestyle 5 сағат бұрын
Point of contact was the chest.
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 and try and repeat what you just wrote, lol
@Buggiestyle
@Buggiestyle 5 сағат бұрын
@ yep, paused at 46 seconds. Feet on the ice and hit the square of the chest, forward momentum of the leaf player forced his head to his the vegas players shoulder. Correct decision on the ice, we move on
@agedskator
@agedskator 14 сағат бұрын
Corruption and I'm not even a Leafs fan! NHL is Liable
@realmoftheunknown-w8d
@realmoftheunknown-w8d 14 сағат бұрын
great job NHL with a blatant hit to the head getting reviewed and not even a penalty. What a joke
@2many_sodiumz587
@2many_sodiumz587 15 сағат бұрын
Im with Joe on this one. That was a bad hit any other day. I'm no conspiracy theorist but its getting harder and harder not to see the obvious inconsistencies with reffing constantly
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
I think all players should wear skirts and avoid breathing around each other.
@kdtarabell
@kdtarabell 8 сағат бұрын
Think the refs need to go back to school.
@VidWatcher-v4j
@VidWatcher-v4j 14 сағат бұрын
Knies head butted Whitecloud's elbow.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
it was actually his shoulder, but idiot knies should 'know who's on the ice and where he is on the ice' Like nurse right?
@willmartin9231
@willmartin9231 2 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant the only difference being that Knies saw Whitecloud coming and was anticipating a legal hit, not an arm to the head. Nurse had his head down and was clueless which makes him an idiot
@troywallace7011
@troywallace7011 17 сағат бұрын
Watch how fast the refs jumped in to defend the knights player lol
@michaelsaville9985
@michaelsaville9985 17 сағат бұрын
They knew he would get jumped and rushed to intervene but didn’t care Kniesy caught one in the chin
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Yup, and the Knights got the PP out of it. Absolute bs
@johnathonstewart6666
@johnathonstewart6666 15 сағат бұрын
Buddy open the NHL rulebook. Rule #1.1: The Toronto Maple Leafs, under no circumstances, are allowed to defend themselves for any reason.
@b3n751
@b3n751 15 сағат бұрын
"100% clean" " keep your head up" "know whos on the ice?" Ring a bell here leafs fans? Dumb fkn clowns. Karma.
@mrme8162
@mrme8162 10 сағат бұрын
@@b3n751 both huge hits. the difference is.. our guy actually got a major and suspended 5 games for it. vegas does it worse and walks away with a power play. the problem isnt the hit as much as the inconsistency of calls. youre clearly clowning around if you cant comprehend that
@stevefowler4427
@stevefowler4427 16 сағат бұрын
As a habs/ hockey fan I'll tend to look at the hit, and I guess 80% blame the one getting hit, for not protecting himself first. Turning your back on the play etc.. But this is BS. Whitecloud had his arm up and was aiming for his head. Knies didn't lower his head at all prior too. Whitecloud lunged up, with total intent. I see him getting suspended for this, and should of gotten kicked out..
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 16 сағат бұрын
Whitecloud's arm was pinned to his body going into the hit. Knies was bent over going into the hit 100%. Whitecloud did absolutely drive his momentum up into the hit, but never left the ice prior to the hit. There's almost certainly going to be no suspension.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
There wasn't even a penalty on it
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Stop the replay AT CONTACT, where TF is his 'arm up' at contact? Not after, at contact, it is tucked to his side. PERIOD.
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow
@pethcir
@pethcir 16 сағат бұрын
Possibly the worst call of the season. This is how you lose fans.
@korbendallas7181
@korbendallas7181 12 сағат бұрын
Destroyed him
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Best call ever, Leafs should lose fans because they are nothing since 67, keep making mLSE rich, drone
@OleFredrik
@OleFredrik 5 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant It's difficult to match your low iq from what you wrote here. You should apply for a ref i NHL.
@fatalfoams
@fatalfoams 2 сағат бұрын
was a great hit, knies got fucked
@dliang4628
@dliang4628 15 сағат бұрын
Refs are totally disgraceful on this play... that's a BAD HIGH HIT on Knies!!! Hope he is OK 🙏🙏🙏
@HarryANuis-gi9hz
@HarryANuis-gi9hz 17 сағат бұрын
Any other team that’s a major and suspension but cause it’s Vegas he gets just a minor… what a surprise.
@enladio
@enladio 17 сағат бұрын
he got a minor for the fight afterwards, nothing for the hit.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
​@@enladioExactly
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767 Jealous VGK walked into the league and won the very thing in a couple years you morons havent won in nearly 60? STFU
@gastondeveaux3783
@gastondeveaux3783 16 сағат бұрын
Worst call of the year. And I am not a Leafs fan. Whitecloud leaves his feat and there is head contact. WTF?
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
I'm glad some non Leafs fans are calling it what it is. All fanbases need to stick together on these kinds of things
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 16 сағат бұрын
Head contact does not immediately mean it's a penalty. Reaves' penalty was because he contacted Nurse's head, and only his head, there wasn't a path at all through Nurse's body. Whitecloud's hit is head on, directly through the core of Knies, and the head contact was only because he was bent over. Like Leaf fans said 1000000 times on the Nurse hit, Knies' needs to keep his head up to avoid contact.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
@Marixa1979 He hit Knies in the chin and drove upwards. The only reason he made any contact with the body is because it was basically head on. At no point was he going for Knies' body, it was always the head
@Kartracer6
@Kartracer6 15 сағат бұрын
I used to work medical for chicago and rockford. Standing in the tunnel with the officials and players taught me 1 thing. The officiating is corrupt and the officials aren't shy about it. There is no accountability.
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 15 сағат бұрын
@@Kartracer6 If you have evidence of it, you should absolutely get it out there and expose it, instead of just saying things with nothing to back it up.
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 17 сағат бұрын
Dreadful decision by the stripes & no coincidence from LV point of view to attempt to take Knies out the game as he's 1 of the Leafs most dynamic players recently! Surely the National Hilarity League will review this hit??
@mlk5454
@mlk5454 17 сағат бұрын
Don’t hold your breath
@Leafsdude
@Leafsdude 17 сағат бұрын
They just did... 🤦‍♂
@enladio
@enladio 16 сағат бұрын
National Hypocrisy League
@liltiger3
@liltiger3 15 сағат бұрын
Joe Bowen is such a voice of the people.
@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797
@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797 14 сағат бұрын
Joe Bowen is a joke.
@ClayBall-im1km
@ClayBall-im1km 8 сағат бұрын
Looks like a good clean hit. Skates on the ice and elbow tucked in on contact. Yes, Whiteclouds skates leave the ice post compact (not illegal). Carry on.
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow. you are correct
@taylors587
@taylors587 8 сағат бұрын
Get that plug Parros out of there, theres a guy named Bieksa that has some common sense.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Leafs fans talking 'common sense' Just hilarious!
@1020jimbo
@1020jimbo 9 сағат бұрын
Not really a leafs fan but I am 100% certain what I am seeing in this video is an elevated shoulder and elbow check to a players head. I have no idea what the referees are seeing when they watch the same video. 🤷‍♂️ The NHL needs to stop saying they have the best officials in pro sports. It's just not true!
@Jack-lz9ft
@Jack-lz9ft 2 сағат бұрын
The leafs should not have been shorthanded
@rhondacroswell4531
@rhondacroswell4531 15 сағат бұрын
Whitehead leaves his feet and does a direct hit to the others players head that is a disgusting play. If I was the leafs management and coaching staff I would be livid. How in the world is that hit not a major penalty.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Feet come up post hit, they were maybe 1 inch off the ice at contact. Do you morons realize how much worse this would have been if he had been firmly planted? FN moron leaf fans.
@martinvermeer1514
@martinvermeer1514 17 сағат бұрын
Change Department of Player Safety to Department of Random Decisions that make no sense and have nothing to do with Player Safety.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
How about change it to Delusional Leaf Fans Are Always Whining. Remember when you said it was Nurse fault for allowing Reaves to hit him in the head? LOL>...
@fredrickolsen838
@fredrickolsen838 16 сағат бұрын
He even left his feet and jumped into the hit. Obvious major penalty and game misconduct.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
His feet came up after, he didn't 'jump' into him. Also, do you not understand him being firmly planted on the ice would have been way worse. It is so much better if they are 1 inch off the ice for the head and the knees of both parties. He was off the ice at contact, then was pushed up into the air cuz knies was lower and 2 guys skating 10 k into each other at about 200+ lbs each made contact.,
@keithbevins6688
@keithbevins6688 16 сағат бұрын
It's calls like these that reminds me to not spend a thousand dollars, or more, taking "one" of my kids to a Leaf's game. The NHL officials, George Parros, the owners, and managers, and the NHL situation room in Toronto can all: Take-Off. The NHL situation room, and all the staff who want to keep their jobs, should be moved to Arizona. Have fun and good bye. At least then Arizona can feel some love from NHL Gary. The Leafs might win more challenges, get fairer calls, and not have to play like they have a target symbol on their backs.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
As long as Bettman is still around, he'll always be again Canadian teams, especially the Leafs. In this case, though, it wasn't specifically against the Leafs but for Bettman's team
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 16 сағат бұрын
The Leafs win by far the majority of their challenges.
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 16 сағат бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767 Bettman has nothing to do with any of the calls. It's just the Leaf fans playing victim.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
@Marixa1979 The same way Leafs fans called out Reaves' dirty hit? This was definitely dirty, as was the Reaves hit. The only reason this wasn't called is because it's Vegas
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
@Marixa1979 You're kidding, right? There's very few teams that have get less calls go their way
@DelightfulGreyElephant-ie1oh
@DelightfulGreyElephant-ie1oh 17 сағат бұрын
That is a hit to the Head
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Literally the most appropriate comment on here. He did hit him in the head. None of this 'he jumped at him' or he 'elbowed him' None of that. Shoulder, head, contact. Knies needs to keep his head up, but, he hit him in the head. However, so did Perry to Tavares in the PO years back. Should Perry have been suspended cuz head was hit? Nope. That said 1-2 games.
@DelightfulGreyElephant-ie1oh
@DelightfulGreyElephant-ie1oh 5 сағат бұрын
@randombutrelevant you should pay more attention. His head was up
@davecutler3427
@davecutler3427 7 сағат бұрын
NHL officiating and the league itself is a joke. How is one hit to the head where the hitter doesn't leave his feet warrent a five game suspension where as another hit to the head where the hitter's skates lift two feet off the ice not even a two minute penalty? Sad.
@matthewajtay9700
@matthewajtay9700 7 сағат бұрын
This isn’t refs. It’s coming from Toronto upstairs. They riding a sausage from Vegas. Choking right down on it deep.
@noobfemdom2196
@noobfemdom2196 11 сағат бұрын
Bettman, continuing the genocide...
@torontorox
@torontorox 8 сағат бұрын
“department of player safety always goes against the #leafs “ Bones
@rolandbisson7025
@rolandbisson7025 13 сағат бұрын
Wow That is a direct hit to the head, his feet left the ice by at least a foot antd to think the refs reviewed the play its a disgrace
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Feet came up post hit you clown, stop the tape at point of contact. So GD clueless.
@Dd94949
@Dd94949 16 сағат бұрын
Garbage call. GARBAGE.
@valf.4589
@valf.4589 17 сағат бұрын
Holy crap. Unbelievable. Total BS.
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv
@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv 4 сағат бұрын
Why, and how
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 skates on the ice, elbow 6 inches below chin
@snapperboat25
@snapperboat25 3 сағат бұрын
Go 10 seconds further
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 14 минут бұрын
@@snapperboat25 10 seconds later, Knies is lying on the ice. your point?
@alex35agm
@alex35agm 15 сағат бұрын
How was this not a major penalty?Poor decision by the refs.He actually lifted himself off the ice to hit him.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Nope, he was lifted by the contact of 2 200+ lb dudes hitting each other at 10-15 KM and knies was lower (leverage, as in lift) and Whitecloud was higher.
@brandongonzalez6034
@brandongonzalez6034 16 сағат бұрын
Matthew Knies has been nothing but promising. And now he has his second severe hit to the head in his career. This gong show empty headed circus that Bettman's running better clean this up or every dynamic player will have CTE by 30. Inexcusable.
@Jack-lz9ft
@Jack-lz9ft 2 сағат бұрын
Should have been ten games the reeves one
@Deplorable0698
@Deplorable0698 16 сағат бұрын
I call it what it is and this call was absolute BS . The league needs to look at this and act accordingly
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
They won't
@ginodelgobbo9237
@ginodelgobbo9237 17 сағат бұрын
Knies was having a great season. Thats too bad.
@patreiger8936
@patreiger8936 17 сағат бұрын
He left his feet
@AdamHarris-k3f
@AdamHarris-k3f 16 сағат бұрын
This was WORSE than the Reaves hit on Nurse. Number 1, he leaves his feet, Reaves didn't. Number two, his ELBOW hits his head. With Reaves, it was his shoulder because Nurse was bent down. In this instance, the HEAD was the primary point of contact. But hey, it's the leafs, so, let's just give Whitcloud a 2 minute minor, and we'll give Vegas a powerplay. This won't even be a suspension, but it should be just as much as Reaves, if not, MORE. This proves AGAIN, that the league doesn't want the Leafs to win. HOW MANY TIMES WILL WE SEE PROOF WITH NOTHING DONE...WHAT A JOKE!!!!
@timapple6586
@timapple6586 16 сағат бұрын
To be fair, Reaves *did* slew-foot the dude and so did deserve some measure of suspension. And it's still early days, let's wait and see how the league handles the Whitecloud hit.
@AdamHarris-k3f
@AdamHarris-k3f 16 сағат бұрын
@@timapple6586 He didn't "slew foot" him. No chance.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
There was no penalty on the hit. It wasn't specifically against the Leafs, it was for Bettman's team
@b3n751
@b3n751 15 сағат бұрын
100% clean hit.
@panjangneem
@panjangneem 12 сағат бұрын
If you believe it’s worse than the nurse hit there’s no help for you 1-Reaves only hit Nurses head… this wasn’t principle contact with head, was a right shoulder hit with arm tucked no head at all 2-This is NorthSouth not a blindside like Reaves was 3- this is actually a hockey play
@DanielGanes
@DanielGanes 14 сағат бұрын
Such a diverse group of zebras on the ice. Some have no eyes! 👀
@hoolie2000
@hoolie2000 16 сағат бұрын
Should be a three-game suspension but you know it won't be because it's Toronto
@viewfromthehighchair9391
@viewfromthehighchair9391 Сағат бұрын
Thank heavens for Joe Bowen, the true voice of reason. His reaction to the decision was almost as strong as mine but, to be fair, I wasn't broadcasting to a million+ people at the time.
@Loimike31
@Loimike31 16 сағат бұрын
Refs are a joke.
@doobymaster6997
@doobymaster6997 17 сағат бұрын
Here’s the decision maker for refs. Knies got got up too quickly. So, no injury to refs, hence no call, it must have been a clean open ice hit - leaving his feet and shoulder into Knies’ head. Sure! If Knies had milked it and perhaps they fetched a stretcher, decision could have been different. Not sayin’ that would be right, but it would have made it questionable. Kudos to Knies for shaking it off.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Against Bettman's team? No, they were never calling a penalty. Least penalized team this year. Half as many called as called against the Leafs
@kfjdsoihf8452
@kfjdsoihf8452 10 сағат бұрын
The difference between Reaves hit and this one indeed was the principal point of contact. Here Whitecloud is targeting the body/head at the same time but main target is the upper body. However he jumps at the time of the impact and that should be also considered for a stricter penalty. Tough call.
@bluethunder1951
@bluethunder1951 8 сағат бұрын
I disagree, he never jumped, contact was made with both skates on the ice and the impact caused him to be lifted off the ice. Good hit.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
FFS, he DOES NOT JUMP AT THE TIME OF IMPACT, look at the FN replay, his skates are on the ice, then the fact that Knies is lower and he is higher and they are colliding at 10k each into each other makes him rise. Also, you clowns have no clue that keeping both feet 100% on the ice is even worse for potential knee/leg injuries for BOTH parties. If he is firm on the ice, this is way worse for Knies. I don't get how people can't figure this out. That said 1-2 game for the head (intentionally or not) being principle.
@bluethunder1951
@bluethunder1951 4 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant ffs, calm down, we can make our views without you screaming.
@NebulinTV
@NebulinTV 4 сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevantyou are an idiot. No matter what you can’t leave the ice in a hit you delusional idiot. Go vote for the libtards because you don’t understand hockey. Knies is 6 foot 3 and skating with his head up. There is no way he should be hit to the head in this scenario, it’s completely intentional. You can’t unintentionally leave the ice on a hit hahaha. I’ve played hockey for over 23 years and that’s completely intentional.
@kfjdsoihf8452
@kfjdsoihf8452 Сағат бұрын
@@randombutrelevant he does jump while hitting him...I mean...... are you blind?
@timvyfvinkel4542
@timvyfvinkel4542 16 сағат бұрын
Dumb officials and Dumb Safety department
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Been whining since Kerry Fraser, never change whiners, never change.
@Sc-How
@Sc-How 16 сағат бұрын
After reeves being suspended for 5 games I expect whitecloud to get the same treatment especially after he exploded upwards after hitting knies’ head.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Are you serious? 1. No penalty. 2. Bettman's team. Nothing will come of it, guaranteed. It's not right but welcome to Bettman's league
@CorrespondentHCNS
@CorrespondentHCNS 15 сағат бұрын
@@jeffreycairns767his being sarcastic
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 15 сағат бұрын
@@CorrespondentHCNS I should hope so. There's no way they punish Vegas like they would most other teams
@bluethunder1951
@bluethunder1951 8 сағат бұрын
In slow motion his skates left the ice AFTER contact his elbow was down and tucked into his body, no direct attempt to hit the head, GOOD HIT.
@mrfunny9425
@mrfunny9425 7 сағат бұрын
Ruling says doesn’t matter what the ampt was still a headshot
@bluethunder1951
@bluethunder1951 7 сағат бұрын
@ he never lifted his elbow or make any attempt to hit the head, his head ran into the arm and shoulder. Clearly you can see that?
@Soyellow17
@Soyellow17 6 сағат бұрын
You can make that same argument for Reaves but he still got 5 games. And it's clear he started exploding upwards towards the upper part of knies before he makes contact
@bluethunder1951
@bluethunder1951 6 сағат бұрын
@ Yes, he started to brace for impact but his skates were on the ice at the very instant of contact, the refs can see that on these iPads. As for Reaves he intentionally went for the head, made no attempt not too.
@mikeleo5990
@mikeleo5990 10 сағат бұрын
As a leaf fan I’m not tryin to be biased but no other fan base is gonna tell me that hit was not head first contact - reeves gets 5 ?????
@cashlynnzwaryczuk6465
@cashlynnzwaryczuk6465 16 сағат бұрын
He jumps and elbow wtf is this
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Elbow? Moron, stop the tape at contact, his shoulder is tucked to his side, can't be more text book. His feet are maybe 1 inch off ice at contact, then they go up, because 2 dudes trucking into each other 200lbs each at 10 k. So, from now on, if any skate is off the ice 1 cm, penalty for 'jumping' FFS. If he keeps his feet firmly planted, Knies is in the hospital, go watch a reverse hit.
@cashlynnzwaryczuk6465
@cashlynnzwaryczuk6465 5 сағат бұрын
@ jeez calling me the moron don’t think you can talk if you can’t see how he throws his elbow out and it’s still head contact and what are you saying if you leave your feet on a hit it’s should always be a penalty it doesn’t matter how high. MORON
@TmanTyler619
@TmanTyler619 12 сағат бұрын
Such a bad hit. I’m sure all of us are fans of a good hit and they’re rarely thrown anymore so for him to hit him illegally and target the face is just pathetic. Could’ve hip checked him but nope wants to be dirty
@terryliamakeros4552
@terryliamakeros4552 15 сағат бұрын
The worst part is the made up rough on whitecloud couldn’t get that right
@r2jd
@r2jd 14 сағат бұрын
Remember, they're REALLY trying to get head shots outta the game.
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Perfect comment. "Hits to the head bad' Bare Knuckle boxing? No problem! You all whine about the hit, but would be pumped if Benoit bare knuckle punched him.... directly in the head with full intent to injure. Hilarous.
@jameshammond8573
@jameshammond8573 9 сағат бұрын
Sickening
@theycallmesteviek
@theycallmesteviek 17 сағат бұрын
what is going on with player safety 😵‍💫
@farnorth7314
@farnorth7314 17 сағат бұрын
Reaves should be dressing for the 3rd period...same hit as he put on Nurse...both refs should be suspended.
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 16 сағат бұрын
Bettman's team
@b3n751
@b3n751 15 сағат бұрын
Not even close to the same hit.
@panjangneem
@panjangneem 13 сағат бұрын
Nope not same Whitecloud is actually an NHLer Reeves is a goon
@farnorth7314
@farnorth7314 6 сағат бұрын
@@panjangneem Even if that is true (not)...are there two different rule books??
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
You should be suspended as a clueless hockey 'fan'
@jasonparish4698
@jasonparish4698 17 сағат бұрын
Wow unbelievable
@KevinSpencer-t4i
@KevinSpencer-t4i 13 сағат бұрын
Bush League Ref's and then some.
@davidwhidden9337
@davidwhidden9337 5 сағат бұрын
I love how people are crying about he left his feet. While at the point of impact his feet are clearly still on the ice. People. Leaving your feet is when you ARE AIRBORN at time of impact. Luke Schenn used to be like this.
@JohnCritch-tf4mb
@JohnCritch-tf4mb 17 сағат бұрын
55 high sticked him first as well.
@JLFinnie123
@JLFinnie123 7 сағат бұрын
It's almost like some big money has the refs go hard on one team and soft on the other...nah not in pro sports
@dalegeorge8324
@dalegeorge8324 9 сағат бұрын
Whitecloud should get a suspension
@HappyBanjo-oc3pc
@HappyBanjo-oc3pc 15 сағат бұрын
As a Leafs fan this call made me furious. Thankfully the Leafs won.
@Hammer-ch5gv
@Hammer-ch5gv 7 сағат бұрын
Good solid bodycheck.
@dalegeorge8324
@dalegeorge8324 9 сағат бұрын
I agree joe
@ryanwallace553
@ryanwallace553 3 сағат бұрын
It sucks to say this because I'm a big Leafs/Knies fan, but I think it was clean. His feet were planted, elbow down, and he aimed for his chest. Yeah, he did hit his head, but it was clearly not targeted. Hockey is a fast sport, and he just caught him. I don't like seeing guys get hurt, but it is a risk. My 2 cents 🤷‍♂️
@tylerfortin3239
@tylerfortin3239 15 сағат бұрын
Reaves hit: 4" to the left its shoulder on shoulder. No intentional targeting and a play on the puck was made. Whitecloud hit: clear targeting of the head, no real potential for a hit to the chest unless he m owers himelf a foot, initial contact still to the head AND no play on the puck
@JCDenton2000
@JCDenton2000 11 сағат бұрын
I swear nobody knows how to give a clean hit anymore, and nobody knows how to take one either.
@FalconFlyer75
@FalconFlyer75 14 сағат бұрын
Wtf his feet were OFF the ice And they get a POWER PLAY?
@randombutrelevant
@randombutrelevant 5 сағат бұрын
Post hit contact cause his feet to come up like that, what happens when the lower dude hits the higher dude colliding 200+ lbs each at 10 km into each other. You have any clue how much worse it would have been if he was firmly planted? Ever see a 'reverse hit' Morons.
@derekl3495
@derekl3495 5 сағат бұрын
pause at 0:45 look at his feet and elbow
@tysajlisap2656
@tysajlisap2656 13 сағат бұрын
Nurse skated into Reave’s shoulder 😂🤣
@MustafaR-k9t
@MustafaR-k9t 14 сағат бұрын
Guy left his feet.
@stjn14
@stjn14 15 сағат бұрын
Fire Eric Furlatt... consistently screws over the leafs, fire george paros and bettman for the same. At a certain point the leafs as a team need to do something about how biased the officiating is. I'd support them if they decided not to show up at all for a game out of protest, call the games with some consistency and without bias against one of your biggest cash cows. Absolutely disgusting, I'd rather pay double what they charge to watch these games legally to someone else than give the NHL another dime. After bringing down the hammer for reaves we lose a player to a head hit and have to go on the penalty kill. There is no sane fan of any team in this league who can look at this and say this is not clear as day evidence of an antileaf bias. This is why the game isn't growing and why they need a billion ads to make any money.
@alanscobie2450
@alanscobie2450 3 сағат бұрын
What the HELL is wrong the NHL. Ryan Reeves gets a 5 game suspension, and Whitecloud gets nothing. Shame on the NHL.
@judlane77
@judlane77 7 сағат бұрын
Elbow out and arm flails towards Nies, criminal call by refs and league
@tomlarocque4720
@tomlarocque4720 4 сағат бұрын
Excellent call. Anyone considering a bad call is not a hockey person.
@ronevens8268
@ronevens8268 Сағат бұрын
was a clean hit .Even leaf panel agreed. Not a leaf fan, but feel bad for the kid ,had a concussion in junior ,and now 2nd one in the nhl, could be a Lindros situation, short hockey career
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