Knife Fights - Debunking The LIES

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[@alistairbolden6340]

Its time you got 6'' off your hair my man, it would look much better. Outside of that really good reaction to the video, you spend a lot of time debunking so its great to see you give credit to people who are being reasonable also.

[@larrydavis9851]

You HAVE to check out Doug Marcaida! He's the best knife 🔪 defense man alive, Metatron!

[@mouse-uldefect2748]

Hi Metatron!😃 As a preety recent fan of yours from Romania, who has been obsesively watching your videos the moment they were posted for like a few months straight, I would really like to get in tuch! I've recently seen that in your last video about the moors, you expressed the intention of maybe using 3d animated for your intro. It would be a pleasure for me, as a junior 3d artist, to create such an intro, not for getting anything in return, but as a way to say thank you for the amazing content you create. I am confident in saying that since I started watching your videos I've been learning a lot more than even in school about history. By the way, I enjoyed alot the video about Vlad the impaler, and I would be delighted to see more content based on my home country, maybe even about the debated latin origin of our people😉

[@sexystealthninja]

You should watch Martial Arts Journey with Rokas's Ultimate Self Defense Championship season 1 and 2 its pretty fun, but on the subject of knife defense you do see some disarms in some events. The results of the shank tank event in season1 vs season 2 is very illuminating as well.

[@sexystealthninja]

You should watch Martial Arts Journey with Rokas's Ultimate Self Defense Championship season 1 and 2 its pretty fun, but on the subject of knife defense you do see some disarms in some events. The results of the shank tank event in season1 vs season 2 is very illuminating as well.

[@KARATEbyJesse]

Thanks for analyzing my video with Paulo 🙏 Stay tuned for part 2! 🔥

[@TerryProthero]

It was a pretty good video. I watched it before seeing Metatron's reaction.

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

great video, I watched it before this reaction too and will recommend to others

[@rhydant3]

We're getting a part 2! 🙌🙌🙌

[@bickyboo7789]

You did a great job.

[@marikothecheetah9342]

I watched it recently and I loved it! Waiting for part 2!

[@RaveyDavey]

I survived knife attack. Someone tried to stab me. My “technique” was to jump back as it happened. The knife went though my coat but didn’t get to my skin. I then ran like my life depended on it. Which it did.

[@bickyboo7789]

Excellent technique. I'm glad you didn't get hurt.

[@HenshinFanatic]

You mastered the Joestar family secret technique!

[@gustaf3811]

How did you end up in the situiation? I know it usually happens at bars but did you engage the person first or what happened?

[@davereid-daly2205]

Glad you survived.

[@LumemDH]

@@gustaf3811some people are just batshit insane.

[@jonathanh4443]

I liked this guy, he didn't say "Knife fight" he generally said Knife attack. This is a recognition that knife fights almost never happen, as that means two people recognize that each other has a knife and they both decide they want to keep going. Most incidents with a knife is one guy pulling a knife and attacking the unarmed person.

[@joemadden4160]

There was an actual knife fight between 2 men in my current city of residence, Toronto, just this week. Witnessed by a few people. One of them is going to prison, the other is going in the ground.

[@CrypidLore]

"Most incidents with a knife is one guy pulling a knife and attacking the unarmed person." fixed that for you, seeing as to how prevalent knife fights are in countries other than America.

[@hirotakasugi4891]

@@CrypidLore yeah because knife is easier to hide. I’m more scared of knives than guns. I’ve seen a ground of people at a train station in Asia just bump into someone in a busy station and the guy they bumped into just dropped bleeding. People didn’t realize until the guy have already moved away. There’s usually no sound at all too. Unlike with a gun, you can always see a guy pulling something, even silencers don’t fully “silence” a gunshot, it’s still noticeable if you’ve heard gunshots before. It’s hard to mistake gunshots for something else.

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

"knife fights never happen" LMAO

[@CrypidLore]

@@hirotakasugi4891 A knife isn't that much easier to hide, and frankly in America a $5 knife isn't much cheaper than a $20 handgun you buy on the streets.

[@alan_sylver]

One thing that terrified me when we trained this in my dojo was that I didn't even notice some of the knife hits. Our teachers had us wear white shirts and the other guy armed with pens, and people regularly wound up with more marks than they thought. Another thing was that they had several plastic knifes stored throughout the dojo and sometimes, while we were practicing, the teacher would discreetly pull out a knife and see how many students he could stab before the first one reacted. He could regularly go through like 8 people. Knifes are scary.

[@johnpublic6582]

The other thing that is scary about knife fights is the mortality rate. You don't instantly go down when the blade touches you. You die in an ambulance 25 minutes later, or in the surgery 3 hours later.

[@andrewsmith9174]

In the Old School days of the late 80’s and through the 90’s, my dojo (formerly a Tang Soo Do school that did several clinics with other styles) had an instructor that liked to do different things. Regularly was knife fighting. Dad grew up in Brooklyn in the 60’s as the only white guy in the area. Taught me how to handle a knife when I was a kid. I was just a Green Belt with a Brazilian guy also Green. We were spending the evening taking out the Black Belts to the amusement of the instructor, a Jamaican guy that was truly spectacular. The knives were rubber and left clear black slash marks on the white Gi. Well the Brazilian guy and I had to go at it sometime, and I will not forget squaring off against him and knowing I was dealing with a peer that had a dad like mine. There was no more fooling around, and the fight was intense and after a few rounds, neither of us could get away without some serious damage. That never left me. Making it real was important.

[@neoaliphant]

as a viking reenactor we did that as well, the knife hit were so fast much more difficult to notice combat to sword hits, generally bare chest, an activity at feasts especially....the girls didnt normally take part tho...

[@davereid-daly2205]

The problem with teachers doing surprise attacks on their students is that the student will always hesitate in their reactions because they are afraid to hit their instructor out of respect. Boxers are not the same as guys in the martial arts community. Drop your guard and you'll get punished, head coach or not, that's how boxers are trained. I visited a club where the assistant instructor of a martial arts club tried a smart move and I belted him for it. He immediately disengaged and was left with a swollen face. Here in Africa most people carry something from a knife, a gun to an AK 47. Every weekend there are loads of stabbings. You just have to keep your wits about you. I have carried a knife all my life and have used it several times in defense. My experience is that when the fight starts, don't think about defence. Put all your energy into your attack. Make sure that if your attacker reaches you for a cut that its the last superficial cut he every makes...

[@TheBergmaniac]

As a crime journalist, I can say that in all the cases of serious knife violence I have looked at almost nobody who got stabbed realised immediately what had happened. It wasn't until later when they found that they were wet from the bleeding that it dawned on them what had transpired. A lot of victims just felt a punch and thought that was it until their legs wouldn't carry them anymore as their strength was draining. Obviously, these testimonies come from people who survived, but in many cases the knife wounds would have been lethal without quick and professional care.

[@mt_baldwin]

You can't always run away. I was in a knife attack, unarmed, and there was no chance to run away, he and I were nose to nose arguing when the knife was in his hand before I knew what was happening, if I had turned to run I'd have been stabbed before I could have gotten more than a couple steps. I put what happened below if anyone is interested. Ironically being so close to him when it started, and him not being a trained knife fighter (I've had zero knife training of any kind, some boxing but that's it), is what I think saved my life. He pulled his arm way back and came in a hook motion, not a straight thrust, so I had time to react and I stepped in even closer to him (why? no idea, I think I tried to grab his wrist) so he over shot my side, his forearm ended up hitting my ribs and not the knife, and I clamped my left arm down on his right arm in like headlock kind of hold and squeezed as hard as could (this was a huge f*cking knife btw, probably 12 inch blade or more, like a small machete). I started punching him repeatedly in the face as we were locked together and by this time my cousins came out of the house and got the knife out of his hand, the knife had a broken grip at the end, the exposed tang did cut/scrape my side up as he was wiggling the knife around trying to get his arm free. The whole thing took less than 10 seconds. Also this started right outside my aunts house and there were little kids, like in diapers age, in the yard playing, oblivious to what was happening, yet another reason you can't always run away from a fight, you might be with people you can't leave undefended.

[@legendaryoutcast4440]

It was 100% preventable, you got on an argument nose to nose, you rose that tension by escalating

[@what4521]

@@legendaryoutcast4440 Don't act like getting the knife out in public and trying to stab someone is normal, it's not.

[@Cancoillotteman]

So you enter the "lucky" category. Congrats on how you handled ! But still it cannot be an extrapolated situation, this could have gone wrong in so many ways.

[@operator-chan1887]

@@legendaryoutcast4440 It is better to be dead than alive AND pathetically useless.

[@iota-09]

@@Cancoillotteman i think the idea there was even if he did have a chance to run away, maybe getting stabbed would have been better at that point as it means the stabber would have been more likely to flee the scene... or not. op didn't exactly make it to be a common scenario or one you want to get into, quite the opposite.

[@petersmythe6462]

A cat can react in 70 ms. A .45 ACP projectile takes 70 ms to go 15 meters. Conclusion: you should have a cat standing within 50 feet trained to shoot the knife out of their hand.

[@piotrd.4850]

Cats have certain protein around their neurons taht speed up processing to roughly, equivalent of seeing 8x faster than we, around 120 Hz / fps ;P and reflex comparable with snakes.

[@sabaziosthorn7259]

🤣🤣

[@bulldowozer5858]

Knowing my cat, he would shoot me instead.

[@markmcallan973]

👌👍👍🤘

[@HeroSword_P]

​@@bulldowozer5858lmao 😂

[@chuiduma]

A lot of this is stuff we learn in law enforcement training. People will swing their arms, bounce on the balls of their feet, look around, and even take their shirts off. If we see indicators like this, people are often preparing to fight us or try to run. This guy's good. I like him.

[@brbl415]

he is the dude teaching them

[@kaguth]

When people say "You're going to get cut in a knife fight" I think it is true obviously that isn't always the case but the mentality behind it is correct. The point is to say "Getting cut doesn't matter. Surviving matters"

[@sniperslayer95]

Yeah i think its more of it being both wanting to have someone be prepared to be cut and react well to that if need be and also to avoid it if possible.

[@talictdf4757]

That saying can be interpreted in lots of ways so that makes it's usefulness is a bit questionable but I think what all people should get from it is "knifes are fucking dangerous" or simple put engaging in a knife fight should always be a last resort. Like the guy said no matter how much training you got it's never a sure thing, all it takes is a bit of bad luck and you're dead.

[@sethkarma2072]

I've said the same thing to people due to past experiences as well and it's not to instill a defeatist mentality, quite the opposite. I say it so they if they do get cut they wont panic and think they've 'lost' it's important not to pause or hesitate as it is very likely you will get cut. I have some pretty nasty scars on my forearms but hey, none on my face and only a small cut on my chest so I'm pretty grateful.

[@mattjack3983]

Dedicated lifelong martial artist here (Wrestling, Judo, Muay Thai, Eskrima/FMA, and currently HEMA and Buhurt). I also spent around 14 years working as a bouncer on the weekends at about a dozen different bars & clubs in the St Louis & East St Louis area. Im 44 years old..going to be 45 soon..and after 30+ years of martial arts training, and a whole lot of real world experience, id have to say that knives, and bladed weapons in general, are some of the scariest and most dangerous things that a person can face in any real world self defense situation. I can also say that over the years, the more ive learned, the more experience ive gained, the more willing i am to actually go out of my way to avoid fighting anyone, for any reason. I am by no means a small guy (6'4" 235-240lbs) and have a wealth of knowledge and experience when it comes to physical violence. I carry a concealed 9mm pistol with me everywhere i go (which i also train with regularly. And YES, shooting absolutely IS very much a "martial art", and every bit as much of a martial art as any other martial art there is) along with a fixed blade knife, and a pair of brassknuckles (completely legal in my state) But I will absolutely tuck tail and RUN AWAY from an altercation, if i can, and if i think that will avoid said altercation devolving into physical violence. I think that for those of us who have been training for long enough, and have enough experience, we have a better and more heightened understanding how truly dangerous fighting actually is. For me personally, it feels like the more i learn, and the more knowledge that i have on how to easily incapacitate or even kill someone, gives me an even greater awareness of how easily I can also be incapacitated or killed. I dont feel as tho I'm doing a very good job articulating my point here, but i think that other martial artists of a certain skill and experience level can relate to what im trying to convey. Anyway, this was a great video, and i thoroughly enjoyed watching it. This guy seems like he really knows what hes doing, and is an excellent instructor/teacher/coach. Best wishes to all who read this, and be safe everyone!!!

[@georgecaplin9075]

I think you got your point across fine.

[@WarblesOnALot]

G'day, What you said is indeed all true, and the way to boil it down to the essence is..., " When you agree to fight..., You have agreed to Die, unless you spend the rest of your life as a Human Vegetable...; Because, your Opponent May WIN - And that is the Contract Into which EVERY Fighter is buying - EVERY time that they agree to Fight. Such is life, Live a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !

So what I am hearing is that our fighting ability dramatically outpaces our actual ability to take punishment. Thanks for the comment from someone who has loads of experience, as I myself have none.

[@Muhammad_Al-Prawik]

100% right. There is nothing to prove.

[@andrewphillips8341]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Stay save!

[@DrewishAF]

That "anxious checking on your weapon" also happens when you first start carrying a gun in public. It's like you think everyone cares or sees it and you always want to make sure it's secure. It goes away pretty quickly, but it's super common

[@Jezus42]

When i started carrying i checked my stuff all the time. I never do anymore

[@KWW0321]

​@@Jezus42Same here, now I just do a drawing drill in the morning with whatever clothes I'm wearing that takes about 10 min then forget about it. My pocket holstered LCP2 has gone through the washer more than once!

[@Cancoillotteman]

As long as it goes away and not off, you're alright ! X)

[@Jezus42]

@KWW0321 I still on occasion do draw drills, but like checking my stuff I don't do that much anymore. I should really practice more.

[@nemoexnuqual3643]

@@KWW0321you need to establish a ridged routine. Like you come home, hang up your keys, unload, and put your pistol in its nighttime home.

[@patchup]

If 1980's movies taught me anything, it is if you wrap your jacket around your non-dominant arm you can use it as a shield in a knife fight. Also, always slowly walk away from an explosion. If you run, you might trigger the explosive's predator/prey instinct.

[@luchomscyfy]

A lot of kung fu styles use clothes as a shield/distraction. Iin Latinoamerican countries, Gauchos use ponchos in one hand and knife in another in fights.

[@freman007]

Also part of the use of a Navaja in Spain. Wrap your coat around your non-dominant hand and the thickness will make it harder to cut your arm, and the hanging skirt can be used to distract your opponent and conceal your attack with your own blade.

[@DOT107]

don't fully wrap your arm tho. unless your jacket is thick and layered, its gonna pass through it very quickly from a single swipe. what you should do is to use it loosely. much like in Spanish Fencing(Destreza). Knife gets tangled easily in thick clothing when stab/sliced.

[@bryce4228]

Solid advice about explosion defense.

[@mardenhill]

i doubt the guy will wait until you have finished wrapping cloth around your arm to defend yourself.

[@bitterblossom19]

16:04 reminded me of when my traditional FMA teacher made the same point while he was teaching me and my friends (paraphrased from Tagalog into English): "Remember that you are training not to show off and get into fights, you are training to develop and discipline yourself, to fix your attitude and be humble. You have done the techniques a hundred times in a controlled environment, do it outside one time and if you are lucky it will work, if not, you are dead. Here's the thing, martial art is a discipline. If you get into a fight and engage instead of getting yourself out of it, tell me, did you really learn anything? Where is the discipline?" This was after we got into trouble and had a brawl on the streets with kids from another baranggay. He was disappointed af with us and what he said stuck ever since.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

"we got into trouble and had a brawl on the streets with kids from another baranggay" So the Karate Kid TV series is basically real life in the Philippines

[@bitterblossom19]

​@@marcogenovesi8570 grew up in a bad neighborhood 😂, the 80-90s was rough. Glad my parents got us out of there.

[@Pendraeg]

18:15 "You don't know who you're up against." YES. This was one of the things drilled into me by my first TKD instructor. You don't know the level of training that someone else has and you don't know whether they are armed or not. So far, all of the pre attack indicators do not let Jesse know that the other guy has a knife. He may be about to punch him. He may be about to shoot for a double leg takedown. He may be about to pull out a pistol. That is why avoidance and deescelation are the first lines of defense.

[@michaeltelson9798]

I know 3 people that survived knife attacks, but all three had training dealing with weapons. 1) a recently released Marine officer going to night school in a business suit, trained to use anything as a weapon, used his attaché case to knock the knife out of the hand and followed up against the head with the backswing. 2) A SCA participant specializing in sword play and had his rattan sword at hand’s reach. No contest. 3) Second SCA member on a NYC subway at 1am tried to tell the mugger to go away. Mugger lunges with knife to strike a mail coat under a cloak. This was followed by mailed fists against the mugger who ran away when the train made the next station.

[@vaclavjebavy5118]

Third one is hilarious

[@michaeltelson9798]

@ He told the would be mugger twice not to bother him. Both SCA incidents occurred after the SCA war for the boasting rights to Pittsburgh. The loser gets Pittsburgh.

[@advena996]

Lol i love that the chain mail actually got used for its intended purpose.

[@michaeltelson9798]

@ In the first one, he rifled through the mugger’s pockets and came away with $2. Imagine the mugger telling cops that he was mugged by a guy in a business suit.

[@kringle7804]

knife attacker "got you think that's a knife this is a knife"

[@thiagoasayama7686]

Interestingly, this explains why many cultures have expressions for the word "bloodlust'' : in Brazil bloodlust can translate to "sangue nos olhos" (blood in the eyes) and in Japan they have the word sakki. So it's all about body language that indicates someone is thinking about attacking another one?

[@willkrueger3857]

I can say that sakki, the Japanese word, means more literally "killing intent", so it fits

[@linkl_6641]

@@willkrueger3857yeah, but that’s also what “bloodlust” literally translates too, since bloodlust isn’t a literal statement.

[@HaggisOfDeath]

In English we also use "seeing red" to denote someone who goes berserk, and another similar one is "the red mist", both very similar to your "blood in the eyes".

[@haxan6663]

I trained in martial arts for decades. In Lau Gar Kung Fu, we had defence against knife attack as part of the syllabus. I remember my teacher telling us ' if someone pulls a knife on you in the street and you can run, that is the time to do so.'

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

Very unhelpful. Might as well just tell everyone to pray instead of learning to throw a punch. "No point. Can't defend against a punch."

[@musashidanmcgrath]

Was your instructor Steve Spain by any chance?

[@ChocolateMilk..]

@@JDoe-gf5oz You're stupid to the point of being retarded.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@JDoe-gf5oz Shut up dork. Show us how to kung fu your way around a knife.

[@cycleboy8028]

@@JDoe-gf5oz No, if someone cocks back to punch you on the street, the best course of action is usually to run. Avoid unnecessary physical engagements. Bad things CAN happen.

[@omarreyes7626]

about the teacher's thing when I was a teenager I heard a phrase that really stuck with me that says: A teacher can share his experience and techniques but NEVER the result, that's for you to figure out.

[@brittakriep2938]

Since late medieval age/ Renaissance books/ Scripts/ treatisisices about defence against knife/ dagger defence, unarmed, with dagger or other weapons/ items exist. From all kind of people, fencing masters, martial artists, officers/ policemen and even german Renaissance artist Albrecht Dürer, a superstar in his time. 500 years later, no solution for the problem exists, says all.

[@Mr_Yod]

Medieval daggers attacks are quite different from modern knives attacks: they are more powerful/charged and slower because the enemy was considered with a bit of protection; they also are only stabs and not cuts (from what I've seen). Unarmed against dagger exists in medieval fencing treatises and "you will get cut" is first seen in one of those. Those techniques (barely) work when the dagger is used as intended, but as soon as it's used as a modern knife (a series of quick and light stabs and cuts) it becomes impossibile to defend against.

[@itshunni8346]

@@Mr_Yod Medieval knight fights were probably slower due to blade length. most knife fights today are done with short knives that have a very quick stab. most medieval daggers are quite a bit longer as they were multi-use tools or in some fencing styles a secondary weapon. Also, stabs are key because they're harder to block, more damaging, faster to perform, and easier to use from all positions. cuts need space, wind up, etc. draw cuts and push cuts are common though, such as when your knife hand is grabbed by the wrist, you can push cut the opponents wrist.

[@Mr_Yod]

@itshunni8346 Yes: daggers' blades are as long as a forearm, wielding it point down the tip reaches the elbow (keeping it like that, with the blade attached to the forearm is used in a ridiculous dagger vs long sword defense); that length allows to reach the heart from almost any part of the chest. But nothing stops you from using a dagger as fast as a modern knife (maybe a bit slower, but not that much), with quick stabs.

[@erikhasenauer3584]

This is why I believe in developing situational awareness and observations skills is an important process in self defense.

[@Talos_The_King]

My philosophy behind this is to be armed. The knife attacker has confidence in his ability to attack you because he's armed, but the moment he knows you're also armed, his self-preservation instinct will kick in. This increases your odds of survival. Luckily, Tennessee doesn't have a blade length law, so move here and buy a sword. Edit: The sword comment was not serious guys of course I'm not going to walk around in public with a sword for self defense..

[@daviddavies3637]

Unfortunately, what you've said is also untrue. Yes, his self preservation instincts may kick in but if he wants to rob you and is prepared to kill you if you don't hand over your wallet, if he has a firearm rather than a knife, he may decide to take you down then search what's left of you without giving you the option of survival.

[@Talos_The_King]

@daviddavies3637 I should clarify. Your defense should be proportional to that of your attacker. Obviously, if you can carry a firearm, do that.

[@Tkoutlosh]

​@@Talos_The_King I do, but there still are situations where having a knife could be good. Gun, or sword, is still slower in some scenarios...

[@herrfantastisch7489]

@@daviddavies3637 Not exactly. Most muggings and robberies are not to the death. If you pull out a knife on the suspect in question, armed with a knife or not, they will run 9/10 of the time. We see this all the time in cases and videos of victims pulling out weapons on the criminal, and they immediately book it, even if they have weapons themselves. It’s a natural instinct to not want to be harmed or die. Predators avoid fights with things that fight back to avoid death. Humans avoid fights if it risks death. This is a natural instinct any normal person experiences. It’s also why smaller and more vulnerable people are victims of crime. The criminal needs to feel confident that the victim won’t fight back or have a chance to. So the original commenter is 100% correct. And I don’t mean to be pedantic, but bringing up a firearm is a straw man. It’s an entirely different amount of proportional force, but even then, your attacker will be deterred if you are equivalent; your attacker may be more confident if they have distance and a firearm and you only have a knife, but if you both have a firearm and you fire, 9/10 of the time, they will flee.

[@Talos_The_King]

@@Tkoutlosh The sword comment was mostly a joke.

[@kevinschultz6091]

Speaking as someone who teaches knife fighting (I've been doing Escrima/Arnis for close to 20 years now), when we say "you will (probably) get cut", it's mainly to address the shock. We do regular knife sparring (with "beepy knives", or plastic knives that light up and make a beeping noise when you hit with them), and the near-inevitability of getting hit, even if you "win", is apparent fairly quickly. Note that for anyone who is interested in knife sparring, I can't recommend those knives enough - we've tried sparring with the hard rubber ones, and felt-tip pens, or chalked foam knives, and these ones (called "AkuStrike" blades) really do work really well. (I'm shilling for them mainly because I've seen other schools teach "knife defense", and it very obviously wouldn't work - these types of blades allow you to pressure-test a lot more than the other versions do. I do recommend that folks remove the metal clip, though, as we've found that in sparring there is a tendency to clash, and the metal edges can dig into folk's hands and arms.)

[@avatarion]

It doesn't matter what you say. There's thinking and then there's instincts. Unless you've been poked you won't know for sure. Knife experts who haven't been in actual fights probably don't know what they are talking about. I wouldn't believe a boxing trainer who hasn't fought either.

[@kevinschultz6091]

@@avatarion - two points: 1. it was Metatron that was claiming that the reason instructors say "you're going to get cut" is ACTUALLY in order to dissuade people from getting into knife fights. My evidence is that at least in my case, we say it in order to warn people about the shock. Regardless of whether or not I've been in a knife fight, I have been cut and stabbed before (non-combat, by accident - I stepped on a fairly large roofing nail) and yes: it's possible to go into shock if you aren't prepared for it - it has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with basic biology and mental preparedness. 2. That being said, no - I've never been in a knife fight. However, 3 of my instructors have (1 senior instructor + senior student + associated "friend of the school" instructor), and they've all said this. One was the DT (defensive tactics) instructor for our local police department; another was a sherif's deputy for a nearby county, and the final one was a marine who did some work in Desert Storm. And yeah - they all said that getting stabbed/cut can send you into shock. (depending on your adrenaline level - it's entirely possible to not notice you've been stabbed if the adrenaline is high enough.) That being said: none of them have been in "knife fights", but they all have been participants in knife attacks. (2 on the receiving, one on the giving.) With that in mind? Of course what we do in sparring isn't a knife attack - there are underlying principles (distance, rhtymn, timing, etc.) that can apply, but at best what we practice is more akin to dueling than an assault.

[@avatarion]

@@kevinschultz6091 It doesn't really matter what you warn anybody of. It's like with drowning, your instincts kick in. Your behavior becomes unpredictable from that point on. You won't know until you've actually experienced it. Your thinking never overrides what you actually feel. If our brain was like a computer then instincts are the basic BIOS level stuff or Assembly code, then thinking is the code that comes later with much more overhead. As humans we don't actually even need to think to be able to live. We are animals and do just fine running on our instincts. I don't really buy this big emphasis on thinking. You need to get comfortable with who you are instinctually before you know what to do thinking-wise.

[@kevinschultz6091]

@@avatarion ...yeah, you're completely wrong on that account. Mental preparedness is one of the key points in maintaining control over yourself in a stressful situation. It's also a key element in avoiding shock, as well as mitigating PTSD. There's, like, multiple studies that have demonstrated this. As such, this will be my last response to you, as it's pretty obvious your original post was just an excuse to make yourself sound cool by trying to put someone else down; your follow-up attempt to re-direct to your personal theories confirmed that you REALLY don't know what you're talking about. Good day.

[@avatarion]

@@kevinschultz6091 I recommend meditating sometime to get a better understanding of "thinking." Thinking is a level above our natural behavior that must is learned as we are growing up. Nobody is born with the ability to speak or to rationalize. No animal in nature does those things besides humans who overcomplicate things with learned behaviors.

[@ctam79]

Paulo Rubio is legit. You should see his collab videos with instructor Zero on knife vs gun.

[@Fisthammet]

Been a sub of his for a long time. Stand up guy.

[@DisdainusMaximus]

Instructor zero is not legit at all. He's a barkeeper who can shoot, not some SF god.

[@ctam79]

@@DisdainusMaximus A barkeeper? Really?

[@georue98]

10 feet according to fbi. That is knife wielder can take out people with guns if less than 10 feet away.

[@ctam79]

@@georue98 I heard it was twenty feet if they are fast and experienced.

[@thaneknight]

When my daughter was born. A guy followed us with a knife as my wife and I were walking through a park pushing a stroller. I turned around and faced him. It was him or me and I was ready to die. My conclusion is, you decide whether you are going to flee or fight. Everything else is academic. It's a life or death situation. There's isn't time to do anything but react in the moment.I had no martial arts training.I don't think it would have mattered. People stab with knives and can get close to you fast. Knives are easy to conceal. Basically unless you see the knife I don't think you have much of a chance.Situational awareness is the best defense.Don't be staring at a cell phone with ear buds oblivious to what is going on around you.Not knowing the neighborhood also makes you a mark.

[@constablerouge2948]

What happened?

[@piotrd.4850]

"Don't get into the fight but when you do, fight like you're third monkey on ramp to Noah's Ark and it has just started raining".

[@thaneknight]

@@constablerouge2948 I gave my wife and daughter time to get away. He and I faced each other down then we both moved on. I think most attacks are ambushes not confrontations. I got lucky. I had time to react. I don’t think that’s case in most situations.

[@Ayasegaki]

@@thaneknight Maybe the question is, what happened that a guy decided to follow you with a knife when you were walking through a park? Was it a random robbery attempt or something else?

[@thaneknight]

@@Ayasegaki I have no idea why he did what he did. It wasn't important. I can't know why someone behaves the way they do. There was no buildup to the incident and we weren't wealthy pushing a secondhand stroller.I think he was getting off on the intimidation.You deal with the situation as it arises, there are mentally ill people out there that do random stuff. I think it's why he backed off when he did. I can only speak to my incident I'm not going to give general advice.It could have gone any number of ways. My only advice is to be aware of what's going on around you.Forget the macho crap.Know a route of escape and be ready to dig down and fight for your life it'll be one of the two.

[@gentlemenmenace6069]

My father's old friend who worked in the intelligence agency, also taught me one human grooming, self-soothing behavior when someone decides to make the next move if he smokes, the last move before the move is to place his lips so that the smoke goes down, and when you see that most of the time you have to get ready for the comfrontaishen. It helped me in Uni when I had a conflict with the Uni gang who stole phones, laptops, or other things from new students who did not know anybody yet.

[@ChorltonBrook]

A few years ago I got into a ‘knife fight’ involving three people & myself (they wanted my pushbike). I thought one punched me and grabbed his sweatshirt pulling it over his head. I could’ve kneed him then etc but let him slide out and run away. Only when I got home I found that my tobacco tin, which I kept in my top inside pocket, had been destroyed by a knife blade. Luck is SO important and don’t ever think people are not stupid & don’t think of consequences. Stay safe folks - best wishes from Manchester UK.

[@tomgerlach4489]

Best defense. No be there. -Mr. Miyagi

[@Wayoutthere]

Still best advice in life for most troubles.

[@thomassmart4088]

if youre stuck on Arrakis and absolutely have to fulfil a messianic prophesy...

[@Knoloaify]

Lisan-al Gaib would see all the knife attacks coming before the fight even starts. As written!

[@captainalex157]

@@Knoloaify Aeeeeeaa AAeeeeeeeaa!!!

[@chupacabra304]

Gotta get the spice flowin’

[@PC_Simo]

As a Finn, ”Knife Fights” kind of reminds me of _”Puukkojunkkarit”_ (”Knife Fighters”), who were like the ”cowboys of Finland”, back in the 1800’s Southern Ostrobothnia 🇫🇮😅.

[@BongDonkySecret77]

Like Bowie Knife fighters of Wild West ?

[@PC_Simo]

@ Yes. Southern Ostrobothnia is, by the way, fittingly, 1 of the Western-most provinces of Finland.

[@uncledubpowermetal]

Those are the moments we live for in history; when you can span the ages and connect with those people far in the past. As someone who has been in several fights, I can confirm, like the Greeks, I stroke my goatee, I looked away, I took my rings off, etc. Then to think of the Scythians or the Spartans undergoing those same subconscious routines is truly fascinating.

[@Alloy211]

I've always said it's better to run from a knife if possible rather than stand and fight. After seeing someone stabbed once in the chest and killed in front of me by someone absolutely unskilled with weapons and almost a foot shorter than the man she killed, I stand by this statement even more. Unlike a gun a bladed weapon is always dangerous regardless of the skill of the user and never needs ammunition.

[@tolmine3545]

Its harder to heal aswell.

[@ChristoffRevan]

I mean, if you're close enough to use a knife and you have a gun...anyone can cause deadly damage with a gun too no matter their skill. Once you start increasing the distance though, then yeah...skill starts to be more of a real factor with a gun; then again, most criminals tend to use these weapons up close with their victims, so the point is kinda moot I think...it's really only with gun battles with police that they become very much disadvantaged as oftentimes the distances are relatively far and police are typically much more skilled in firearms than the average criminal

[@maxgehtdnixan4913]

Running is only an option if you're faster than the other person. Your odds are better arming yourself with literally anything.

[@Alloy211]

@ChristoffRevan Although I understand your point, it's really only a surface level analysis of the situation that makes some assumptions about a firearms effectiveness and ease of use.

[@Alloy211]

@maxgehtdnixan4913 If there's something available to defend yourself with I agree. I personally believe everyone should be equipped to defend their lives at all times. That's also why staying in good physical condition is extremely important as well, if you need to fight you have the strength, if you need to run you have the endurance. Preparation is the key to surviving everything.

[@SM-nz9ff]

Paulo Rubio is legit. You can't always run away as Icy Mike often goes over. Sometimes you're closed in, what happens when the person can outrun you? If the person is faster than you running won't amount to much huh? The best thing you can do is up the ante and get a weapon, a bottle, a chair, whatever you can get to the advantage. Don't be there if you can, get out of there if you can, grab your own weapon if you can, and any combo of these.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Thats just fma. Grab anything you can use to make a weapon. A stick, a brush or even a bag something to hit ur opponent.

[@DanGoodman-n4b]

Cap. Even if running is an option your attacker might be faster.

[@axel9473]

​​@@DanGoodman-n4b It's still often the best solution even if the attacker is faster. Most of the time they don't want to chase you. Chasing dramatically increases the risk of being seen by witnesses, cameras, running into police, etc. There is a reason why an attacker chose to engage you at that specific moment and in that specific place. It's because he felt he can without consequences. He already scanned his environment, he probably knows the place well. Relocating the situation is not what he wants. So if you have a clear escape path and are not in company of someone you need to protect, running remains the best option. This is of course especially true if you actually train running and have good stamina.

[@jasonhake5502]

Metatron, your channel is such a refreshing thing to see on the internet in this day and age. Even from the small things that you do, like cutting a video short to incentivize people to watch the original. It really shows how much you value your integrity.

[@metatronyt]

Thanks! Still trying to figure out what the best way to make react content is. Up to know what I have is don’t use all the video, mention the creator properly, put the link to the original video in the description and pinned comment, make it very transformative adding a lot of commentary.

[@remi4378]

Quote by Sun Tzu: "mystify, mislead, and surprise the enemy." In other words, attack. You'll rarely find yourself in a position to defend when it comes to a random attack. So, be careful where you go, and be vigilant. Always be alert, no matter where you are in public. And if you see someone about to attack, attack first. Or run :)

[@seymourfields3613]

I watched a video of a guy watching a video of self defense against a bladed weapon. I'm now an impervious expert. Nay, a master. Strike two. I'm a self defense legend.

[@Desert_Drengr]

Former infantryman here. We don't say "you WILL get cut in a knife fight" as a defeatist mentality. We say it to prepare the individual for the shock and pain of a knife attack so they know they have to push through the pain. It's to prepare them for the very likely scenario that they will get cut. If you keep it in your mind that you're going to get cut, you're more likely to either avoid the knife fight altogether, or use a more effective strategy, such as using a longer weapon or firearm. It's not a defeatist mentality. It's to prepare you for shock and pain. Then again, infantrymen have a much different mindset from civilians. We've accepted that we may die. And most of us are prepared for it. So, maybe that's where the disconnect is in my statement.

[@qrfarchaeology9391]

I wasn't infantry but the messge was still conveyed that accepting that a wound will occur reduced the fear of that wound, which promotes action both during and after that wound. I haven't been in a knife fight but this mindset of not freezing does help one survive. That and having good reflexes that act in conjunction with body mechanics. I had a number of surprise training incidents (from before military service) where i thought a real knife had been pulled and I treated as such. Also removing the knife from play seemed to be the best option. The attacker seems to favor focusing on the weapon so if one does get control of the knife, might be best to toss it out of reach (except in combat context, rules of engagement of course). If the attacker has one knife, as soon as they lose it they'll pull out their second and third till they lose confidence. Focusing on the single knife risks failing to recognize the fluidity of the situation.

[@notmenotme614]

Another reason for saying you will get cut is, it stops the victim being too passive through self conservation, by them incorrectly thinking nothing will happen and they’ll be ok. If the victim knows they’ve got nothing to lose by fighting back, then they’re more likely to go out with max aggression and the flight or fight survival instinct. Prepare for the worst. You will be defeated if you do nothing, but you might survive if you fight back harder than he does. (When backed into a corner and can’t avoid getting into the situation). In the infantry all this probably applies to bayonet vs bayonet combat too.

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

But don't people just use guns in battle unless your the Chinese Indian border exploiting ceasefire loopholes.

[@Desert_Drengr]

@jacobitewiseman3696. Yes. We also said that if you're in a knife fight, it means you're out of ammo. And if you're out of ammo, you're probably going to die anyway.

[@qrfarchaeology9391]

@@Desert_Drengr Do not go gently into that bad night.

[@hirotakasugi4891]

yeah because knife is easier to hide. I’m more scared of knives than guns. I’ve seen a ground of people at a train station in Asia just bump into someone in a busy station and the guy they bumped into just dropped bleeding. People didn’t realize until the guy have already moved away. There’s usually no sound at all too. Unlike with a gun, you can always see a guy pulling something, even silencers don’t fully “silence” a gunshot, it’s still noticeable if you’ve heard gunshots before. It’s hard to mistake gunshots for something else. It’s also easier to create stabbing implements.

[@keeferChiefer]

As someone who’s pretty fast, I don’t see knives as much of a threat. But it doesn’t matter how fast you are if someone has a gun, you’ll never outrun bullets. So in my eyes a gun is infinitely more dangerous than a knife

[@hirotakasugi4891]

@keeferChiefer you can only run if you can see it. If you’re in a crowded place someone bumping into you is a perfect vehicle for a stab. Knives are scarier because you can never see it if it’s not some random encounter. Even with mass pewpewer, you can see when someone has the weapon. The same way bombs scare me more than guns. The unseen threats are what you should be afraid of not the common one that you can easily avoid or even fight against easily.

[@hirotakasugi4891]

@ but it’s okay. It’s fine to be sheltered like you. I’m glad you haven’t had to witness someone just dropping dead bleeding in a crowd of people :) or someone stepping on the ground and becoming meat rain

[@freman007]

@@keeferChiefer Do you think it's that easy to hit a target with a gun? It's pretty easy to run far enough away that someone with a pistol will have a hard time hitting you. Meanwhile at close quarters it's possible to force a firearm away from your body so they can't shoot you (though may shoot people behind you) while a blade is far more difficult because everything you have to push against is sharp.

[@Frank_Costanzas_Lawyer]

​@@keeferChiefer Makes sense...if you're in a videogame.

[@Kadotus]

Nothing shatters the illusion of being a tough guy faster than the sudden, sharp sting of a blade, followed by the sight of your lifeblood rhythmically spilling away. As lightheadedness and a tingling numbness creep in, the reality of how fragile you truly are becomes undeniable... and then you're gone forever. (Don't be a tough guy, run if you can.)

[@keeferChiefer]

Nothing shatters the illusion of being a tough guy than the sudden realization that you’ve thrown your life away and now must spend your remaining days in a cold hard cell, showering with men, and eating slop until you eventually die. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with this comment, but it’s clear that you need help psychologically.

[@Kadotus]

​@@keeferChiefer What I'm trying to say is: If someone attacks you with a knife: Don't be stupid-run if you can. No matter how "tough," fit, and well-trained you are (or think you are), I sure would run, if it were at all possible. But thank you for being concerned over my mental health, which is fine, I assure you.

[@piotrd.4850]

@@Kadotus ... if you have that option, which usually, you don't.

[@fakshen1973]

I was in a drive-thru and this guy comes out of a convenience store and looks at me then does the 360 scan, my hand goes under the sear to grab Mr. BadDayForYou. He continues walking away pretending not to notice me and then sprints back at my open car window. Mr BadDay makes his presence known. The look on his f'ing face was priceless as he tried to run in the opposite direction like some cartoon character. He was like 1/4 second from MrBadDay getting very loud with him. I didn't even have time to be scared. I only had time enough to react. I had my little "oh f... oh sh.." moment later on. But that's how quickly going from thinking about the tasty burger you're about to eat to getting things pointed in the right direction. The #1 thing is to keep situational awareness of everybody around you and their mannerisms. You don't need training to start doing that.

[@davidmeyer5316]

I like the guy you're commenting on. You give your honest take. Empty hand vs like i was taught, is a last resort. You need to pick something up, anything, if you're attacked. The reality is you won't get the chance and most of what happens next is mostly luck. Just my personal take.

[@basswars7060]

The loser of a knife fight dies in an alley. The winner dies in the ambulance.

[@rhawkas2637]

Came to the comments to post essentially the same thing. "One person dies on the sidewalk, the other on the way to the hospital."

[@avatarion]

At least both of them are armed. The expert in the video is teaching people to beat knife guys unarmed.

[@bapro1715]

Not necessarily.

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

As far I understand from watching knife/attack defence videos, it amounts to ‘wrestle with the knife’ and ‘if it works it works’.

[@DOT107]

they do that in the og video. check it out

[@telquel7843]

Yeah, I mean if there's any improvised weapon to create spacing that's the best. But if not, then wrestling is pretty much your best bet and it's likely a coin flip. Knives have stuck around for a reason.

[@FunkerTactical]

8:20 - I totally agree with you as well there. -Paulo

[@kaisersnow2618]

I wanna see you comment on the Ultimate self defense championship's shank tank, Jesse did pretty well on it last season

[@LovePikaMusic]

Interesting what he said about how it's important to laugh and override the fight instinct after. I am familiar with this when it comes to dogs - I have two dogs with plenty of chance to watch them play, and this is also one of the things to look for if you're not sure whether the dogs are (still) playing or fighting for real/one bullying the other. A play fight includes a lot of short pauses and frequent role-switching, which communicates the other dog that it's only a game, like "we still good bro". I never realized it works for humans too. BTW, I'd suggest reworking the title. Currently, it gives the impression you'll be debunking the video you're reviewing.

[@mardenhill]

humans are an animal species, and mammals, just like dogs. it shouldn’t be a surprise that these patterns work equally well on humans.

[@blue_tree_meadow]

I spent nearly 10 years as a use of force instructor in a government service and because we were sometimes in positions where we were forced to deal with edged weapons we used to teach to expect to get cut, but this was for two reasons, firstly as you say to discourage any hero mentality by introducing the truth i.e. you probably will get cut if you choose to engage, but secondly if you're forced to engage and do get cut we didn't want people to shut down with the shock. I would stress though that we always taught to get away or contain if you could so that we could return to the problem with appropriate numbers and PPE if it came to it, but also to attempt suitable de-escalation. I've had to deal with several situations with armed assailants and invariably muscle memory and luck play an enormous part in my still being around to tell the tale.

[@legendmaker694]

I had already watched the video you've reacted to and I loved it. Base on the title of your video, I was afraid you were about to debunk it, and I really couldn't imagine why. Thankfully, I get now that you simply meant that Paulo was debunking popular misconceptions in the video itself (some of which you've also debunked yourself in past videos). ^^ By the way, you're very right about the unfortunate influence of movies and other forms of entertainment on untrained people's expectations IRL. I once hit someone on the head with a pipe, legitimately expecting it would knock them out as in fiction. Instead, it made them bleed profusely and enraged them, making the situation far worse for both of us (and closing the wound later required a dozen stitches). To be extra clear, I was a teenager at the time, long before the Internet, and it's one of the very few times I was ever in a real fight, never by choice, and I still regret it to this day. But I also kind of blame the thousand times I've seen the hero put their opponents to sleep by hitting them once (and without ever giving them a concussion!) for giving me such a dumb idea. It's much better to know you don't know than to hold on to ridiculous notions you assume must somewhat make sense. I haven't trusted anything I've only seen or heard in fiction ever since. But by default, when we have no information at all, our brains tend to make up something on the fly, at least when we're young and/or impressionable. I wouldn't be surprised to find real cases where someone assumed they were safe from bullets thanks to a sofa, a car door or a coffee table, either. We need the truth, but we can't know everything and it's just as important to know when we don't know (not just in life or death situations, but of course it's where false preconceived notions can hurt the most). Didn't mean to get this dark, sorry about that. Have a great day and see you soon!

[@yinzertoyguy3678]

I've trained in traditional martial arts for 40 years and taught for almost 30 and this is one of the most genuinely useful knife defense videos I've seen. I've already shared this with other instructors and intend to incorporate some of these drills in our training.

[@LanceDStone]

Ah yes. I still remember him as "GN" (Gun Noob) from Funker Tactical community. That community eventually fall apart unfortunately and there were some really good guys and some dubious characters. GN was one of the good people that came from there and that seedling crystalized into him making a focus on hand to hand and knife fighting.

[@jedijudoka]

Eli knight was one of ‘em too, no?

[@LanceDStone]

@@jedijudoka Don't remember as I focused mainly on firearms content at the time.

[@FunkerTactical]

I’ve learned a lot of lessons along the way. Good and bad. The journey is everything. -Paulo GN Rubio

[@saint037]

I'm floored at how I'm always "consciously" doing those preattack indicaters he mentions as a way to be on guard... didn't click that it was actually subconscious and that's why it felt comfortable... and I should also look for the indicators in others

[@russtheguitarist]

14:30 Not only to provide a smaller target, but also redistributing your weight so that you have the leverage to drive forward when striking your opponent.

[@plastikloser]

1. RUN 2. Find a defensive object 3. Blundgeon with object or Retreat/Run

[@tf2weeb663]

"In a knife fight, expect to get cut" I'm pretty sure my kriegsmesser will keep me safe. The other guy though? Can't say for sure.

[@Jordan_C_Wilde]

watch out, we've got a badass over here.

[@FriendlyGoblinWasTaken]

Ah yes, becouse everyone knows that cutting dummies or tatami mats is just as easy as cutting a real person, and we all know that people totally don't get arrested for carrying a sword in public. Yup, coudn't be that people go around with knives instead of swords for that very reason, no sir.

[@sirmaddin9132]

I already watched the original and liked it. So I was worried for a second that this would be a debunking video, because of the title. I'm glad you also liked it and brought a little bit more insight to it with the distance keeping. I would have liked it though, if you would have told a little bit more about what the ancient greeks told about this topic and pre fight indicators.

[@musashidanmcgrath]

I'm mid-40s now, but I did many types of martial arts from a young age. I've been in 2 life or death knife scenarios in my life. I survived both. First one got me 50 stitches and 4 severed tendons on the wrist/arm that I blocked it with. Luckily there was space to escape, but I believe that my martial arts training saved my life because the block was pure muscle memory and protected my face/neck without a doubt. The second was in a crazy pub brawl. My friend had been superficially slashed across the throat with a boxcutter. He got 6 stitches and was mm away from a slashed jugular. I was right beside him and instinctively tackled the bloke with the knife. We rolled around on the ground for a few minutes wrestling for control of the knife. I ended up getting the side of my head and ear slashed - and a few broken ribs from kicks from his mate - but I was very lucky as eventually more people piled on and the knife ended up under a couch. The whole thing was crazy. I believe that in this situation training helped too, but it's always going to be difficult to know when adrenalin kicks in and it's a chaotic life or death struggle. Larping with your mates and plastic knives is not the same as the real thing. 😂There's a lot of survival instinct involved in these situations, but I imagine someone with no experience of extremely violent street situations or keyboard larpers would most likely not survive. Growing up in Dublin in the 1990s I knew quite a few lads who were stabbed. Some survived and some didn't. There's definitely an element of luck/bad luck involved too.

[@telquel7843]

The reality is that often you don't even realize you've been stabbed the first time. You just think you got hit. And yeah, I think no matter how bad ass you think you are, there's a huge element of luck to surviving a knife attack.

[@lifepolicy]

What he wanted to say about expecting to get cut is (as my trainer would say) to avoid a fight at all costs. But when you get in a fight for whatever reason, you will get cut. Fight on. The fight will stop either when the attacker can't attack you anymore or it's gg for you.

[@Bummer873]

The "You're going to get cut in a knife fight" thing. Paulo trains special forces people. They are going to get into fights. I also know a guy who trained his fellow Marine Raiders in knife fighting among other combatives. It absolutely is about understanding it's going to happen and not letting the shock of it happening put you at a disadvantage. Otherwise, great video! I'd already watched that particular video, but it's cool to see your take on it.

[@jonathanh4443]

That statement is good for both the casual person wanting to train if knife all the way to the special forces. For the casual person they need to know that they will get cut so they are deterred from going into that knife fight. For special forces they need to not worry about getting cut so they can fight through it.

[@Bummer873]

Absolutely. Conflict is best avoided if at all possible. Knowing how to deal with unavoidable conflict is pretty snazzy too though!

[@Qaos]

One piece of advice I've always held close to me was "It's better to lose function in a hand or an arm than to lose function in your heart or your lungs". Hopefully that will just stay as a morbid thought experiment I only use in lucid dreams, and not something I ever have to put into practice

[@THRVLDSN]

Exactly one of my experiences of this sort -- traded my arm (significant partial loss of bicep function) for the opponent's liver (flatlined shortly afterwards, but it took some ground control over the opponent until he bled out). I needed surgery, my own chances of survival were null without medical assistance -- no way to prevent critical blood loss from a cut to a shoulder. So yeah, one gets almost inevitably cut in a knife fight, but needs to quickly estimate the survaval rates and respond accordingly. And fast. Training helps a lot to hone reflexes and stay cool, but doesn't make no one's flesh impenetrable.

[@TheFirstManticore]

You remember Roy Larner of course. Stabbed 8 times by three terrorists before the 3 terrorists ran away. Meanwhile the less combative civilians escapesd; and he survived. But, being a Milwall football hooligan, he would accept no credit for saving lives, but said it was the stupidest thing he had ever done.

[@br4624]

11:28 this is why I am here. I have already seen the original video, but I will watch it here again for such tasty lore bits. What a time to be alive.

[@mysite1012]

ALWAYS remember the 21 foot rule.If theyre within 21 foot, you are in the danger zone. First rule if youre involved with a knife scenario, even if you have a firearm. RUN if possible. If theres absolutely no way out, then defend yourself at all cost.

[@keeferChiefer]

The 21 foot rule is only applicable if you stand completely still while drawing. If you backpedal quickly as you draw then that gives you significantly more time to lay down shots. If you have a gun, then don’t take the gamble that you’re going to be a faster runner than the attacker. Also the rest of us will thank you for taking someone that dangerous off the streets permanently.

[@freman007]

That's 21 feet, if you're prepared for the attack. If you're not, if you're just minding your own business and not really paying attention (as most of us are), then there is no safe distance.

[@NevisYsbryd]

21 feet is assuming a lot of variables. Some weapons are easier and faster to deploy (due to holster systems and laws, firearms can actually be rather slow to deploy), confined spaces, how fast the assailant is approaching you, defendant situational awareness and reaction speed.

[@emil6568]

Aiming takes time and those milliseconds could cost life and this is demonstrated in john wick movies where he often used firearms in super close range combat as melees to counter attacks. You can hit with a gun, but you can't shoot with a knife

[@seanduffy6231]

8:15 to discourage is not the point. I am a policeofficer. We get trained not to run away (for obvious reasons) and our instructors also prepare us to get cut once you are into a knifefight. The goal is to keep fighting, no matter what's happening.

[@TexanTemplar]

I just saw the body cam of the officer that tried running before the guy stabbed him to death. Absolutely brutal, God rest his soul. Really opened my eyes to how fast it can happen and that running isn't the best option. Stay safe.

[@Brianroadtofaith]

Hey bro love your channel and I personally know Paulo he's a good friend of mine from Canada 🇨🇦 we trained in FMA systems and he's very good trains law enforcement and trained with military and top marshal art masters. Amazing g humble man. It's really cool you put this on your page as I mentioned to him last month about looking into HEMA what I know he would love. Thank you again for another amazing video Medatron. Love all your content.

[@SavageEntertainmentYEAH]

FMA (Filipino martial arts) are all based on knife fighting and defense. That’s is why this guy knows a lot. Like Sicily, many towns and areas of the Philippines are not nice, and stabbings occur frequently with robberies especially in groups. Very awesome to see you analyze his methods and information

[@IronDruids]

Do you think you could get in a fistfight and never get punched? Literally dodge or block or push all punches away from you? I don't.

[@thethirdsicily4802]

I could, I'm just built different.

[@nickvanachthoven7252]

there are two types of people who come out of knife fights. those who die on the spot and those who die in the ambulance.

[@kidsyx]

​@@thethirdsicily4802 🧢

[@_KondoIsami_]

I have done that but only against complete beginners... that being said defending against a knife attack is completely different, you can't block it with your body, and even a light touch from it will cut you so they don't need to put strength into it and can focus on speed and try to cut you and poke you as much as possible. It's just super hard to defend against weapons when you are unarmed, the best defense would be to be aware of your surroundings and carry a gun.

[@johnpublic6582]

@@nickvanachthoven7252 Pretty close.

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

I watched this in the last couple of days...he's the best I've seen. I've taken various martial arts classes years ago, and I've spent a lot of time thinking about self defense, and reading/listening to various experts. He's seriously the only person I've heard talk about the important parts. Everyone else wants to claim you can react and defend yourself barehanded. I told my son I want him to watch these two videos, since he's never had any training at all. He tells me that lately, people are being attacked downtown. It's got to be because very few people are happy about the way things are going, domestically and abroad. Some woman almost decided to run me over at the grocery store, merely because I complained about her blocked the crosswalk with her car. Tempers are flaring all over.

[@robertmosher7418]

Metatron. My guy. You do square up completely in one sort of fighting. That is modern gun fights. This is because, if I am going to fight another armed enemy, i want to put my plate squarely at where the possible gunfire will come from. And I want to compact as much of myself behind the plate. You want to square your arms with the intent of making the most stable platform possible to control the recoil to ensure accurate follow up shots using controlled pairs of shots and the use of a fail safe shot if the enemy is within 21 feet or 7 yards. The reason the fail safe is not used outside of that range unless the guy doesn't go down because the point is to eliminate the immediate threat and then seek any threats in your sectors of fire and then find work in support of your team. If alone, your sector of fire is 180° but changes it's oriention upon changing direction.

[@mb2776]

hence krav maga has those strange body movements and why it doesn't work for small skinny people: plate carriers.

[@lxDastanxl]

I grow up in Colombia and knive attacks are pretty common overthere so one of the things I learn was "look for the blood thirst" and that's pretty much what they talk about till 14:00.. when you notice it the ambient becomes havier really similar feeling that you get when you come home and you see your parents in a bad mood which gives you those chills of "I better run straight to my room"

[@GildedPoo]

I remember years ago you did that OG video on this and I vehemently disagreed with your take. Called it cowardly. .......then I did research, rapidly learned that I was the fool.

[@sexystealthninja]

Wasn't his take that you should always run away and was insistent that its always an option because it isn't. Sometimes running is in fact not possible in which case your best bet is to ramp up the aggression to hopefully disable the attacker before they can kill you.

[@ganzrawr5334]

Been subscribed to your channel for over a year and had no idea you had a martial arts background. Cheers to you!

[@thefightingknight]

Being trained in martial arts and weapons martial arts. I will share the best defense against every weapon you will run into on the streets. Don't be there. Yes, run and don't become a target. There is no shame in running away. It's when you have no other option is when you defend yourself.

[@soulknife20]

This right here. I'm trained in various martial arts and combat training from the military. Granted, it's hard to always keep yourself from danger, but not being there is the biggest defense

[@its_clean]

Best way to avoid punch: no be there

[@johnpublic6582]

@@soulknife20 Isn't that a major training item with the Armored infantry. 1st: Don't be there. 2nd: Don't be detected. 3rd: Don't be targeted. 4th: Don't be hit. 5th: Don't have your armor defeated. We can never control all of these all of the time, but the total system together is important. Don't be in the 'hood. Don't be seen in the 'hood. Don't get selected by a thug....

[@DOT107]

unfortunately it only works if you can run faster than the attacker, or the knive wasn't meant to be drawn initially/use for threats only. Not so much with attacker already willing to kill and making sure the victim can't run, usually indoor, with someone who they deem libalility, closed off etc. and rarely, a person you personally know suddenly draws a knife on you because they wrote it on their quasi manifesto.

[@pgpython]

Running may not be the smart move because then you are just making yourself like prey and if you can outrun the other person that may be fine but if not or you are outnumbered it's going to end badly. Instead you want to create a large enough distance that they can't easily lunge at you and ignore the person. Don't provoke and don't run

[@TerryProthero]

I actually did watch this video. It seemed pretty good. His main point is how to try to create a more realistic training environment. But I was curious what your response would be given that you have covered similar topics before. I had some self defense training, and a big part of that was being aware of your environment and avoiding the conflict in the first place. And keeping people further than arm's reach from you was another. Don't let anyone get that close to you unless you are dating or they are friend or relative giving you a hug. In the vast majority of cases, no one needs to stand that close to you. We were taught to extend our arm with our hand out and hit them in chest while yelling, "No!" It might sting a little, but it's not going to do much damage. It will, however, push them back and make it clear you don't want them approaching you. They might think you are crazy. But that's O.K. Most people will leave crazy people alone. If that isn't enough to deter them, the person should be considered a threat, and you need to respond accordingly. That might be anything from running away to putting their lights out. Whatever seems like the right move at the time.

[@Kingdemonpigfromhell]

21:20 really appreciate that sentiment.

[@freddymedina-ui7mm]

I was expecting a roast and what I got was an actually impressive and valuable lesson, not only in knife attacks but also on his teaching methods, as the Metatron pointed out. A lesson in humility for me.

[@RicoMnc]

I have been following Jesse for years, always worth a watch. The FMJ guy used to, or maybe still has a channel "Funker Tactical". If you search for his early video you will find his journey discovering the truth about defense against knives and other weapons.

[@ApofKol]

Very refreshing, especially after seeing tons people whose sole advice is to "run away". What a profound knowledge, Sherlock, I haven't heard that 1000 times already.

[@mardenhill]

the advice is sound and true and cannot be shared often enough. the fact that you don’t like to hear it is irrelevant.

[@Bleubear3]

Another thing I realized is that (while at 11:38) he's distracted yet focused. His eyes are an indicator of what they're thinking while the body is masking the anxiety or "amp" they're feeling in order to remain perceivingly calm.

[@ethgratz2186]

12:09 peak Metatron

[@Wintermute909]

I've also heard the term "displacement guesture".

[@nooctip]

ancient parable "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day."

[@anzerupnik1442]

I have a question: What is with the rise of reaction content on chanells (not just yours)? I noticed lot's of youtubers started making reaction chanells. I get that it is easy content and I appreciate that you are still doing original content with it, but I am just curious if it's some algorithm thing that forced a lot of youtubers to go into reaction type content.

[@iyaramonk]

You basically answered it. It's less effort than an original video and let's you serve the audience more content. But people also like watching other react to something. Like 2 girls 1 cup reactions, Red Wedding reactions etc.

[@ZlataChernis]

It's not exactly an algorithm and even Utube thing, it's just a newly set form of answering an age-old kind of question which ppl often ask thier liked experts, 'Some guy says/writes/shows X, what do u think of it?..'

[@RobbyMoTalks]

This was one of Jesse's best videos. Great review and breakdown. Paulo was probably one of the most in tune martial artists I've seen speak about their art and specifically knife attacks. He was incredibly realistic and gave great info. Awesome vid, Metatron!

[@lilsprugga]

At my age, it's stay home and get a large dog.

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for the video. The other advantage to maintaining distance is that someone who has tried to stay out of the other person's personal space several times will have a better chance of avoiding legal repercussions if the situation ends up in a court case.

[@esmenardvictor6261]

It's funny ,i saw that video and i fought about you,i was waiting for this. Nice video Metatron. ^^

[@Deathgaming112]

3:25 this is true, so never move forward against a knife, you can only defend if everything is moving away from the knife

[@tolmine3545]

Ah yes, the British way of solving problems.

[@zwidowca1]

SHAMK!

[@BattleBro77]

"British" (they're all called Mohammed or Umbugwe)

[@amicableenmity9820]

@@Medusas_Barber I don't care? The British people aren't even allowed to use knives for the sole purpose of work (mainly farm work). How pathetic is that? Man I'm glad we left you peasants.

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

​@@Medusas_Barber No uk tops the charts and you can blame immigrants for it.

[@yungpep]

​@@amicableenmity9820HAHAHA so you think people can't use sharpened metal objects for work in the UK 😂 oh brother you need to touch grass get off the Internet and talk to someone soon

[@Benjamin-nf2ir]

I did watch this because the algorithm sent me, and now I'm watching it with you and it's just as fun the second time around it was a very powerful demonstration and it's gratifying to see you enjoyed it as well

[@Upsideround]

Rule #1 of a knife fight.. Run away!

[@MageGrayWolf]

As my sensei would say "The best defense is not to be there."

[@Tespri]

You're going to end up dead. First of all turning takes time in order to start running. Your enemy already is faster than you by already being toward your direction. Second... You do not know can you actually outrun attacker. Third... Well the thing with knives is... That they can be thrown.

[@ipostlamememesallthetime953]

Rule #2 - carry a handful of pocket sand Nothing beats thrown pocket sand *_AND_* a clean get away by running from your attacker Shaw shaw sha

[@soulknife20]

​@@TespriDo you have any clue how hard it is to throw a knife accurately, with the point hitting the target? If someone pulls a knife on me and wants my wallet, I'm giving them my wallet. That can be replaced. My life cannot

[@criticality2056]

Have a gun

[@fragdq]

some martial arts like Wing Chung have a different approach in the default stances. They face their opponent with their shoulders pointing both to the opponent and having a unusual arm position like a Wedge/Spearhead kinda. Just wanted to point that out.

[@Tobs02]

I Legit saw this Vid this Morning... Metatron is in my YT algorithm!!! o.O

[@Crisilac]

I saw the original video then I saw you had a response to it. I was so worried that it was going to be full of crap because I thought everything in it was accurate. I was both relieved and happy to see that wasn't the case! Great video, man.

[@superninjab0y]

This knife man is very smart "The totality of circumstance" Let alone the focus on probability and his obvious teaching ability.

[@madmarduk1936]

I’ll never understand why people think that fighting with knives is less dangerous than guns. I’d rather be in a firefight at 20 yards than face a knife. Even walking away you’re very likely to still die from injuries. I have a black belt in Karate and they do teach how to defend against a knife when empty handed but it’s clearly for when you have no other choice. Try to keep them away from you and get something over the knife to keep its edge off of you. Anything to buy you time. Interfere with their vision if you can. It’s really easy to squirm a knife into someone. You’re not actively defending against that. You have to stop the attack from being able to happen.

[@madmarduk1936]

@@tatumergo3931what the retarded hell are you babbling about. Go bother someone else.

[@madmarduk1936]

@@tatumergo3931 WTF are you talking about and why did you repost your comment after it had already been replied to by me and subsequently removed by meta/mod?

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

1:14 or wear mail under your clothes 😁......😶....🤔......

[@MrHarumakiSensei]

gee, what sort of crazy guy would ever do that? Eh, Metatron? 😂

[@FireflowerDancer]

I'm in a hotel right now and your making me laugh out loud 😂😂 It's like when I wear my winter outfits, so many layers (so I can relate a little bit) 😅

[@PickBit]

The thing about overwriting the aggression is so true! Even in sparring it comes so natural to high five or hug your partner after the bell

[@LalaDepala_00]

I'm Dutch and there was a stabbing just an hour ago on a street behind our house 😂 You're not alone, Brits! - Also great timing, Metatron

[@operator-chan1887]

I wonder why there was a stabbing.

[@EM-tx3ly]

Not connected to Maccabee Ajax match isn’t it ?

[@total3117]

what was the ethnicity of the stabber?

[@phlippbergamot5723]

You tube recommended this video to me, and I ignored it thinking it was just another bad self defense video. Thanks Raph for sharing, and I'll go watch the whole thing now.

[@miloszbaczak3690]

Hi keep up the good work

[@JR-tl2ym]

What I'm getting from this is either run away or attack first and put the onus of defence on the other guy. If you react, you're dead. If you make predictive defense, that can work with lots of training. But even then it's 50/50 at best.

[@shakybill3]

The part at 8:30 about "You will get cut" The expert (or whatever) is spot on, i disagree with you. The saying "you will get cut" is to get ypu over the fear of being cut, you still dont want it, but it will dampen any sort of flinching response if you truly accept it. Also its not a defeatist mentality

[@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158]

Everytime I've met someone who has sepent years training the knife, they always have this wisdom to share, totally unrrelated to knife techniques, that can save your life nonetheless. It is probably because I also grew up in a tough environment and I recognize the importance of "reading the room".