This NYC Professor is a COMPLETE JOKE!

[@metatronyt]

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[@iamxevicho5170]

A new Assassin's Creed game trailer dropped, it's called AC: Shadows set in feudal Japan.

[@secretname2670]

metatron, I have a question, have you seen the wikipedia article titled "Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece" or "Homosexuality in ancient Greece"? Truth? Lies? I'm afraid youtube won't let me post the link.

[@secretname2670]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

[@michelguevara151]

the fact that he doesn't seem to understand that 'wakanda' is not a culture but a fictional backstory from a comic book makes him ridiculous

[@jeanladoire4141]

Hello Metatron, could you make a video about the Satyricon ? The three main protagonists are in a kind of love triangle (they are all three men of course), one being the passive one, and the two others seem to fight over him, wich eventually lead to a r8pe. It seems like a pretty interesting depiction of ancient society, even tho it's a satire, it's still a fascinating (and very funny) window on the past. It's like ancient south park i suppose ?

[@psarri72]

any professor who compares Greek mythology to a comic book should be fired. Wakanda isnt African mythology, it was created by two jewish guys in 1966 ffs

[@SusCalvin]

There's always some jungian every generation who wants to draw it all into the great universal myth.

[@kostasbiker9302]

Every single time

[@PackHunter117]

No way really? All the roads lead back to the Jews it seems if you catch my drift

[@katnerd6712]

@@PackHunter117 It was Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. One is the father of the classic Marvel comics the other was the co-creator of Captain America. Two men that made stories about hope, heroic ideals, and striving to help others. If you want to apply your conspiracy theories you might want to pick INDIVIDUALS who actually embody something negative.

[@PackHunter117]

@@katnerd6712 Alright you’re right and that would be a different argument and subject than what’s discussed in the video. Didn’t know they were Jews but I guess that shouldn’t surprise me

[@JP-vj7fp]

Sparta being exclusionary and isolationist = bad. Wakanda being exclusionary and isolationist = YAAASSSS

[@thebreadbringer]

I'm always astonished with how stupid that sort of thing is. So there's this hyper-advanced African society that just chose not to do anything about slavery, both within and outside of Africa? It reminds me of how the wizards in Harry Potter just ignored WWII, and we're not supposed to think they're horrible people.

[@Inastewpopotogo]

@@thebreadbringer yes, also not sharing their welth and medics

[@minizimi3790]

The worst part is, that isolation view is literally condemned in the movie.

[@zenster1097]

Because of race.

[@nekmewxelagrowing6432]

Who knows they might have been selling them too. wakanda does seem to be ritch with being hidden and no outside trade just saying...

[@johngriffon2118]

I genuinely wonder how African people feel that he would rather use Wakanda, a fictional culture and country from western comic books, to discuss African history rather then actually discuss real African Cultures.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Any content they do is not meant to be consumed outside their western, liberal, urbanized bubbles.

[@laisphinto6372]

Its disgusting in my opinion especially when IT comes from african American for crying Out loud despite making man ape Not wear His Gorilla costume they Made His entire Clan make monkey noices during a discussion Not even the man ape in the Comics make monkey noices all the time. Also its very americanized Sure they butchered some thousands different cultural window Dressing into IT but IT IS very clearly african American Not real african

[@kobiee2x137]

@@DonVigaDeFierro what?

[@holypaladin4657]

@@kobiee2x137 He’s saying professor doesn’t actually give a damn what Africans think.

[@kevinlawler3252]

@kobiee2x137 🤣 tttkktt

[@KiazaKadaj]

Black Athena is 100% the furthest book away from academic consensus it’s almost insulting to be used as a source for anything.

[@noonelooksatusers]

interesting ideas but EXTREMELY cherry picked and infamously inaccurate lmao

[@spazzypengin]

So he's supposed to be talking about history and proceeds to fawn over Black Panther? Yup, he's one of *those* professors.

[@thatlittlevoice6354]

He's a huge fan of the BBC.

[@Michel411]

Plenty professors like that unfortunately. I had to write detailed essays on Wakanda for two different classes during my undergraduate degree. Ridiculous.

[@sauron69447]

@@thatlittlevoice6354 😂😂😂

[@doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097]

​@@thatlittlevoice6354 ah, yes, the British broadcasting corporation. I've heard of them.

[@everydayisabadday]

@@thatlittlevoice6354 The veiny kind!

[@pyramidheadrocks]

“There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” ― George Orwell

[@aj.j5833]

They are Useful Fools. Term coined in Russia and got miss translated to Useful Idiot in English. Fool and idiot is different.

[@noxplay4906]

Like those Marxist college professors. More concerned with theoreticals and hypotheses than actual practical application and objective truth

[@Ragnar452]

Does that mean intellectuals have low IQ? I am unsure what intellectual means at this point. I know there are low IQ educated people but I hesitate to call them intellectuals. What is a higher IQ and educated person then? What do we call that person? I call this professor an impostor or a charlatan.

[@atticstattic]

Misquote. "I have heard it confidently stated, for instance, that the American troops had been brought to Europe not to fight the Germans but to crush an English revolution. **One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool…**

[@tommeakin1732]

I was talking with someone today and they told me that something I *know* to be untrue (I'm not often that sure on things) must be true because the man they heard it from had "a doctorate" (likely not even covering what we were talking about). There's a lot of clearly knowledgeable and smart folk within "academia" - but the amount of bullshit and bias amongst them is nevertheless, shocking. We mock, say, the Victorians for what they got wrong, and their biases, but I think we could be worse nowadays. It seems to me that, maybe Man broadly, has a window of "deep" knowledge that is very narrow, yet confidence (either self-confidence, or the confidence others have in us) tends to stray much more broadly than it should. Like someone who's an "expert in Greek mythology" can be staggeringly bad with, say, Greek history of the same time.

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

13:38 Because as a white man I can just walk into any museum, take any european artifact off the wall and play with it because it's from "my culture", and as a white man I just inherently know everything about "my culture" and history so there is no purpose for historians, teachers and the like.

[@him050]

I do love the idea that ANYTHING “from your culture” automatically belongs to you. Next time I’m in a military museum overseas and see anything British made, I’ll let them know that I’ll “take it off their hands” 😂

[@Psycorde]

​@@him050*Goes to US Civil War museum, gets shot*

[@archi5461]

​@@him050Yeah, I guess the same way Jews can take anything from Auschwitz-Birkenau musem, because why care about the history behind things/artifacts secured in museums. Ugh, I hate 'anty-museum' talk.

[@cp1cupcake]

I just like how there was an attempt to send a bunch of artifacts native to Africa back a few years ago....and the guy who they were sent to just sold them off.

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

@@cp1cupcake *laughs* ya. Imagine, someone without collective guilt(white guilt) or history not caring about an artifact outside of how much it's worth. Crazy.🤣🤣

[@jaythom1233]

I had professors like this. No, I did not pass any of their classes. They’re the reason I dropped out of college. I’ll finish my degree when the world calms down

[@Trevor_NewJerusalem]

You'll be waiting a while, friend.

[@Staszk01]

It's hillarious that this guy was constantly talking about African culture, African mythology and African influence on the Greek mythology and then decided to talk about a marvel movie instead of actual African mythologies lol.

[@StallionStudios1234]

Yeah that makes me mad because I want to learn more about African culture and its getting hijacked. Look at the Woman King. That movie had 0 relevancy in to what actually happened. They were the actual oppressors against other tribes, not their saviors.

[@ChadOfAllChads]

Mythology and fiction are the same thing. Don't know why that upset you.

[@kaimagnus5760]

That statement is disrespectful to literally every culture that has ever existed. While it's quite possible some stuff that was known to be fiction at the time has gotten accidentally mixed in most "Mythologies" use to be religions practiced by people who believed they were true.

[@ChadOfAllChads]

@@kaimagnus5760 My point was, Black Panther is fake, and so is Zeus and Hercules. So if he was just using wakanda as an example people are familiar with what's the big deal? Even metatrons gripe about him calling a shield a hoplite is easily proven to be true with a Google search.

[@Staszk01]

@@ChadOfAllChads ​ Black Panther is modern and American not ancient and African, so it doesn't fit the context of what he was talking about at all. And even if it did fit a context of, I don't even know what, maybe showing the audience what is our modern version of mythology? Then the Professor would still have mentioned the African (or specifically Ethiopian and Kushite because Egypt is so obvious it doesn't really require much elaboration in a short video) influcences on Greek mythology and then didn't even bother to mention ONE story or character even remotely related to them, while simultaneously complaining about general population's lack of knowledge about them.

[@GothPaoki]

I'm tired of our history and mythology getting pillaged by some politically motivated bozos. Thank you metatron for exposing them.

[@mekingtiger9095]

The world post 2016 has been an utter disaster.

[@popeyethepirate5473]

The cultural revolution has begun

[@inovakovsky]

@@mekingtiger9095 Thanks to the Republicans.

[@LordVader1094]

@@inovakovsky Yes, definitely only because of them and nobody else as well lol

[@richard_from_england333]

​@@inovakovskyThey Them

[@DoctaJay11]

Professor condemns European whitewashing of African history, then complains about Europeans teaching African history...

[@scratthesquirrel5242]

to him it right or wrong doesnt matter, as long as it serves his most holy of politics

[@LeftJoystick]

@scrattthesquirrel5242 You’ve just perfectly described the vocal left in the USA. Bravo.

[@rhetorical1488]

@@scratthesquirrel5242 teaches in NY. all you need to know for an accurate picture

[@Jellybelly008]

@@eastcoastsailingcenter7768 Who all made points, except you. So you're definitely the triggered one.

[@oxylepy2]

Man, there is being an ally, and then there's taking up all the oxygen in the room pretending to be one.

[@TheMiniArmyShow]

I'm Irish but I don't know everything about Irish history/mythology/culture. If I was at a museum and a black person was presenting information about Irish history. If I was to say how dare a black person lecture me about Irish person about my culture it would look absolutely disgusting and bigoted. How do these so called intellectuals not get that if you reverse the races it's exactly as ignorant. My god.

[@dancegod1691]

The British oversimplified and downplayed the Irish as barbaric savages. There would be a big difference between a British person who bought into that narrative describing your culture and one who understood it. That’s what whitewashing means. White used to once only mean British.

[@noonelooksatusers]

actually, as an irish person, your knowledge gets pumped into your veins when you're in the womb, dont you know? /j

[@kyiesalerno8401]

Sorry for the paragraph, but I must put this down: Not to mention Irish culture has been bastardized by all cultures in America because on one hand, people will say Irish are white, while on the other, Irish are immigrant minorities. The amount of Irish history and culture that has been scrubbed or absorbed by bigger cultures, such as how Irish/Scottish/Ulster-Scots shantyboy culture was absorbed by Canadian lumberjack culture, has resulted in other cultures being attributed Irish characteristics. Doesn't help that song catchers like Cecil Sharps wiped Irish and Scottish influence from Irish and Scottish songs because of British Imperialism. American historians, by believing that a majority of Irish immigrants stayed in cities (which is false, as shown in the history of the shantyboys), have been recording history itself wrong attributing cultural successes to other cultures (it is not bad to acknowledge the collaboration of cultures, but America doesn't like acknowledging that many cultures can all have a part to play and be acknowledged as so). There is a hole in our world history that is just ignored by Americans because, at the end of the day, belief overcomes fact.

[@Ayoosi]

"Half of the Mediterranean is Africa and we forget that." No, just people like this professor who forget that N. Africa, the Mediterranean portion, is not black.

[@ududy22]

It's Africa, but it's not THAT Africa. The Sahara was quite an obstacle for trade and culture for most of history.

[@Vicus_of_Utrecht]

Berbers!

[@Vicus_of_Utrecht]

​@@ududy22 I legit can't imagine how humans made it across. It amazes me.

[@raynatumbeva780]

​@@Vicus_of_Utrecht well, they followed water. Namely The Nile. It provided sort of a "bridge" with liveable conditions.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

Liberal white people believe all of Africa is black.

[@nikolasweischner3560]

Why.... did he bring up Jan 6 and gay army in the same sentence? These channels are such a joke.

[@jabronisauce6833]

Because left winger does left wing things they can’t talk about anything without bringing up their moronic and racist ideology.

[@robertpatter5509]

The Enlightenment was a mistake folks.

[@mindlightwave]

Because they have a specified Derangement Syndrome

[@HoLeeFuk317]

Because it's propaganda

[@Dylanhya]

My best guess is the professor somehow made a connection between the Q-anon shamon and spartans. So he was saying how its strange that conservatives dressed up as a gay army. That's my hypothesis but your guess is as good as mine lol. Maybe some people at the capital on january 6th dressed as spartans or something, but i dont recall anything like that

[@crozanegovult4526]

Anybody who uses Marvel films as a reference for academic discussion isn't to be taken seriously.

[@milansvancara]

exactly, anyone who treats fiction as facts should be ridiculed... (spiderman, dragons, minotaurs, magic, astrology, ressurections, religions...)

[@gimligloinson972]

@@milansvancaraso u don’t like metatron either then?

[@ChadOfAllChads]

But Mythology as a reference for academic discussion works? They both involve things that either cannot happen, or are so fanciful they most likely didn't happen. You guys are soft.

[@milansvancara]

@@gimligloinson972 I do like many of his videos, even this video of his is factual, and I won't hate someone just for having some ridiculous stances on something (my previous comment was hyperbolic half-sarcasm to demonstrate the point) I just don't like the hypocrisy many people don't see here, that's all :)

[@jimmyfrench4722]

I completely disagree based on the premise of the talk, basically, the portrayal of mythology in modern filmography. Thus, any film that goes into mythology would be on the table. I don’t get why he’d pick Black Panther unless you’re comparing modern concepts of invented ancient mythology to mythologies of the surrounding areas to the setting.keeping Mediterranean, I believe, haven’t seen, that Love & Thunder portrayed the Greek pantheon, even if shortly, but still something. Why didn’t he comment more on the portrayal of Bast & likelihood of her bestowing such favors on a man…there was an opportunity to speak to the topic, but he ignored it for non-topic bs. Hope his students see this & question why he expects them to stay on topic in their submissions.

[@LevelActivity3598]

the professor: The goddesses were on the ground, while the gods were in the sky Hades: allow me to introduce myself

[@giannisrozakis8392]

I guess Hades should swap with Hera, otherwise they make the professor look bad...

[@kermdeezy5330]

Or Tartarus who was one of the first generation of gods and much deeper than even Hades. There's also Ourea and Pontus, mountains and sea.

[@noyrz]

​@@kermdeezy5330 the "professor": The goddesses were on the ground, while the gods were in the sky Nyx: Am I a joke to you?

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

Poseidon was deep under the sea lol.

[@noonelooksatusers]

as if divine gods are gendered? yes their forms are worshipped as gendered figures but unless theyre someone like dionysus or hermaphrodius, the greek gods are LITERALLY the hunt or the moon etc. theyre gods, theyre above gender even if their personifications and depictions can be gendered. this "professor" is full of crap 😭

[@GenuineLhachwen]

When Black Panther, _a fictional isolationist society created by two white Jewish men_ , is used as a factual reference for a historical discussion he already lost all credibility. *EDIT:* For the rage-queens insistent on misrepresenting the usage if the term 'white' in my post: ethnic White and skin hue 'white' are entirely separate categories of description. If you cannot tell the difference betwixt the two perhaps it would be better to not create an opinion of attack. Rather familiarize yourself with the difference. I stand on my OP and how I phrased it. Pantone hue not ethnicity was referenced. Language matters.

[@klausroxin4437]

To be honest, the original video is not a historical discussion, it's a propaganda show. He worked in a very professional way and did the job he was supposed to do: propagandist.

[@macattack5863]

Sure but he is using his so called academic credentials to back up said propaganda the thing at issue is not just the existence of propaganda but the loss of credibility on academics in general when this behavior is allowed.

[@JeffreyOller]

@@klausroxin4437 effectiveness and credibility are not to be conflated.

[@anomonyous]

​@@macattack5863Which is how we got to the state of indoctrination and ideologically motivated historical revisionism, in the first place. The capturing of academia by subversive political/ideological elements, not in the pursuit of knowledge, but in the pursuit of activism and destruction of said academia as it existed in its original form.

[@birchthebirch4593]

I disagree, I think using modern media is quite a good pathway to teach people about history . Everyone does it . Jordan Peterson using fairy tales and cartoons , metatron does it too . Allegory, metaphor and synonym helps people understand .

[@SweetHeart-vc6zy]

Nothing worse than someone made STUPID by their own education.

[@Dracones101]

The problem is he is educating others.

[@aj.j5833]

Over education is known to make mind very ridged.

[@culteducube4108]

@@Dracones101 I think the correct word is "indoctrinating others"

[@jollyjakelovell6822]

@@Dracones101 the word you want is indoctrination.

[@noxplay4906]

@@Dracones101 The correct word is stupefying if I got it right

[@tomatocutter]

This guy is a great example for why many Americans no longer respect a college education.

[@ConradAinger]

The same applies on this side of the Atlantic. By his speech, the guy is English. So I am slightly embarrassed 🤨☹️

[@alphaomega154]

while metatron agitated with every pro black sentiments he finds in internet, im agitated with every sentiments that refers U.S citizens as "americans". because they are NOT. you want to see "americans"? look at the south americas. bolivia, venezuela, chile etc. where you can easily find REDSKINS people dominated the populations. thats AMERICANS. the U.S full of europeans and anything else that is NOT "redskins". there is barely any americans in the U.S and canada because they genocided them in the past.

[@brammeijboom-mj9ld]

you only meet him in college if you do theatre as a mayor, he's not in the history/archeology field but in the threatre/literature field.

[@janwilson9485]

American professors are often not as qualified as European ones. I think its something like all college lecturers are classed as professors in the US whereas, certainly in the UK advanced research and additional qualifications need to be gained to be titled professor. Other college lecturers are just lecturers.

[@EmperorNero]

​@@brammeijboom-mj9ld That tracks.

[@livmashupmansen191]

The guy saying the mask being behind glass is limiting access, but he forgets that this mask is so old that it needs to be protected so that people can have access visually to the art and history of that artifact. The museums are preserving the mask for people to admire and learn about. A lot of old artifacts are fragile which requires white glove treatments and specialized cases for them to last a long time.

[@ProfSplendorFaction]

That being said the entire concept of trying to protect something like that is great and all but they could just as well either take a picture of it or make a replica. I get the idea that it is the original item and it's cool that it's the original peice, but these things weren't made with the intention of them lasting forever.

[@ShiningFingerStudio]

@@ProfSplendorFaction No one "invents" a historical artifact. It's just a normal thing that existed at the time and culture that survived longer than others, and is now treasured because of how it serves as a connection to a time long since lost and past.

[@ProfSplendorFaction]

@ShiningFingerStudio I am fully aware of that fact. I'm just saying if you want to actually preserve something it's impossible to keep something forever.

[@GeneNerd]

@@ProfSplendorFaction - sure, but photos also don't last forever. Additionally, the quality of photography hasn't always been what it is now and will always provide less detail and information than the actual artifact. same with a replica. Are you suggesting that museum shouldn't be preserving artifacts, or just American/European ones? Do we let the items from history just disappear? What about the museum items that were sold by the government to collectors? Are those purchases now invalid because people in the country that purchased it thinks that wasn't right? Are we certain that the same kinds of deals aren't still happening? Keep in mind that the Mona Lisa was a gift from da Vinci to the King of France. The amazing Temple of Dendur in New York was a gift to the USA as a thank you for helping save the history in the whole lake Nasser region when the dam was being built. [its an amazing story honestly.] Was there a lot of looting historically - absolutely. Is everything from other countries stolen by our ancestors - No. Like most things, it's complicated and multifaceted. There is no simple answer. I don't know how clear it is in the movie, but just because an item is from somewhere else doesn't mean people were murdered to get it.

[@davidnymann5423]

I think he was more alluding to the fact that a good portion of museum items weren't donated but just straight up pillaged.

[@rtoujr]

There's something inherently dangerous about a professor that's so willing to misrepresent information to sculp a narrative.

[@bradleythebuilder8743]

Sculpt

[@rtoujr]

@@bradleythebuilder8743 no worries.

[@mnomadvfx]

I don't know about sculpting narratives. I think he was just looking for a payday, It's Vanity Fair so presumably they paid him well for this cack and probably edited his script.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Yes. Misinformation. His behavior will make anyone who listens to his lies a lot less educated than they were. Fortunately Metatron is fixing the problem.

[@rtoujr]

@@mnomadvfx even worse. sold out to say anything for a price.

[@unitron2005]

This "professor" is utterly disgusting.

[@JamilaJibril-e8h]

The "professor" saw some SHELL'S....

[@inovakovsky]

@@JamilaJibril-e8h What?

[@tomekkruk6147]

I'm pretty sure he know that half of what he says is utter nonsense, but he says that anyway, because if he said the truth, he would most likely be targeted by some leftie looney gender pseudo science students and could loose his, probably well paid job.

[@DemolitionManDemolishes]

I wish there were more videos like that, with modern day "professors" showing their true colors. Now, if you are still going to send your kid to this university, it's on you.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

Why do you think he's employed at NYU?

[@James-b4r1v]

The professor forgot, if he ever knew, that the movie 300 was based on a comic book. It was never intended to be an accurate depiction of Spartan/Persian culture or of history, but rather a fantasy for plain fun.

[@johnv6806]

That movie was. But there is another movie of the 300 that wasn't based on a comic I think it was made in the 70s?

[@simpsondr12]

I mean the comic is based on real life events, it's not made up. That being said idk why he's talking about it when it was said he would discuss mythology.

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

​@@simpsondr12 it's lightly based off real life events, the vast majority of it is extremely made up though.

[@giokun100]

@@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs I'd argue the opposite. It's heavily based on real life events with a healthy dose of overexaggeration.

[@anomonyous]

​​@@johnv6806Which isn't what he's talking about.

[@nico_rissoasdf]

can we do a petition to fire that man from his job as a professor? he's butchering the beauty of Mythology and its not only hurting my soul but also the soul of ALL the ancient people from all over the world

[@billmelater6470]

He's an activist revisionist.

[@billmelater6470]

@@JHimminy No, "revisionist" just means that you reinterpret history for your own purposes, with or without any evidence. One's relation relative to "authority" is a nonsense metric. This is to say that it is not wrong to push against the accepted orthodox position but that facts make one correct, not bias or position relative to others.

[@tomekkruk6147]

Nah, he's just a coward afraid of loosing his job.

[@moonboogien8908]

​@@tomekkruk6147bingo

[@yoeyyoey8937]

The Medusa bit wasn’t revisionism tho. That’s actually close to what the myth reflects.

[@billmelater6470]

@@yoeyyoey8937 Ah, so nothing he said was revisionist then.

[@AdeptusCustodeCiff]

A professor like that is so fucking dangerous, and him teaching to students to learn his beliefs and to put modern politics into ancient history is beyond crazy

[@balasaashti3146]

Well who became all these professors? The word is hippies and not just any hippies but the ideological marxist hippies.

[@MrChickennugget360]

exactly what is so scary is he is so full of shit to those who have even a basic understanding of history yet to tons of idiot undergrade teenagers they will lap up his bullshit simply due to him having a PHD. Biggest problem in modern society is trusting "authority" particularly when there are plenty of PHDs that are not worth the paper they are written on.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Academia is a joke. People like him aren't the bufoons, they are the punchline.

[@huntsie]

@@DonVigaDeFierroagreed, the “professor” is merely a consequence of the degeneracy of the American education system for years now. If any of his students believe his pseudo-historical theories involving comic books and gay Spartans, they are fools themselves.

[@Khan-dell-Orda-d-Argento]

Fortunately, not all of the modern academic panorama is like this: at least, I don't know that there are similar cases in Europe, for the moment (and I hope never!).

[@lynngreen7978]

Killmonger is not Culturally Wakandan. He is American. He speaks like an American, he has an American accent, and he ACTS like an American.

[@dunedainmom]

I thought it was really interesting that the American Black Power CRT guy gets shanked in the end by the African. I thought the movie was very thought provoking

[@laisphinto6372]

Wakanda IS also Just the American Idea of african culture they are also Just Americans with very hammy african accents that Sound forced AS hell

[@MastemaJack]

Killmonger would only be half wakandan. He sounds like one of those Black Hebrew Israelites to me.

[@jshadowhunter]

Killmonger was literally a black Hitler.

[@HDN141]

And, he is not real. So...it is a moo point.

[@BLP04]

12:51 idk, I think the worst thing you could do to a historical relic would be to… y’know, burn it, destroy it. Maybe preserving it isn’t the worst thing you can do

[@FemboyFlaVR]

The greatest gay army in the planet?? That would be the Navy.

[@whatadollslife]

Good one 😂

[@noxplay4906]

Except they're actual manly, strong and brave gay dudes. So I respect them

[@RyanG0899]

​@@noxplay4906The Spartans had 10 times the testosterone the Navy has

[@jonathanmora8208]

IN THE NAVY!!!!!! IN THE NAVY!!!!!

[@amicableenmity9820]

I thought that was the airforce?

[@kevinkerr9405]

Hercules did not get his power from slaying a lion. He was the son of Zeus. He strangled snakes in his crib.

[@ItsKindaWeirdBro...]

Facts!!!

[@aredjayc2858]

Shh

[@kylemendoza8860]

Not a mytho expert. I think he did get some additional powers. I don't even think the lion pelt is the only thing that gave him additional powers.

[@aredjayc2858]

@@kylemendoza8860 He did gain additional stuff, hydra blood for example. But to claim that killing the lion was the source of his powers is nonsensical

[@arturhashmi6281]

@@aredjayc2858 Blood of hydra was deadly itself and I do not remember Heracles using it for anything, let me know if Im wrong. Neman lion's golden fur was impervious to attack, it could not be killed with mortals' weapons, but power of Heracles was generaly inherited from his father, who was the mightiest of Gods, in the end Heracles killed the lion without having his pelt, obviously.

[@Shadow05eth]

Notice that he is not a professor of mythology. He is a professor of "classics *in the modern world*". That's probably a literature degree or something akin to that. In other words, he has no idea what he is talking about and is like one of those dumb high school professors that over interpret everything in the way that suits them.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Good point I didn’t notice that

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

He's not a historian, or an anthropologist, or a sociologist, or an archaeologist or even a linguist... He's a glorified English teacher.

[@akl2k7]

Ah, the type to search for the meaning behind blue curtains.

[@GeneralToxicus]

I looked him up, he does have a Ph.D. in classics from the University of Nottingham. On his CV and the NYU faculty page: "PhD in Classics, The University of Nottingham (Thesis, Opsis: The Visuality of Greek Drama. Supervisor, Alan Sommerstein)"

[@staceyd7986]

@@GeneralToxicus As a Nottinghamtonion I do not condone this individuals education - in fact I’m slightly ashamed lol

[@Zzzooooppp]

lol he's also lecturing us about Greece, thats not his culture. does he have a right to tell anyone about Greece?

[@vohan6165]

He likely thinks that the Greeks were white and whites have no culture according to the American progressives or to the sane people in the rest of the world the regressives.

[@peladno]

of course he can, anyone can being an expert to talk about X country and make lectures. The thing is you need to be excellent at it. Look at 16:20 in the video and you will see what I mean, because I'm guessing you didn't saw the video or you didn't understand what he said.

[@bossked1563]

Of course he does! He's white, and as we all know, all white people came from the same culture! We might call that culture "Greek" or "English" or "German", but they're actually all just different words for the same thing!

[@Zzzooooppp]

@@peladno you have extremely poor reading comprehension

[@awaholswilder9271]

uhmm yes??? what has that got to do with anything

[@Nobodyatall6022]

300 should never be used to make a statement about Ancient Greece. It's a Zack Snyder movie based on a comic book written by Frank Miller during the most troubled years of his life. Treating it like a historical movie is like watching Bridgerton to study the Victorian Era.

[@bdleo300]

Still infinitely more historical than Wanakananda; no idea why this 'professor' even talks about Marvel cr4p.

[@Myomer104]

And, in-universe, is a propaganda speech being said before a big battle.

[@MellonVegan]

And didn't Miller base it on Herodotus' account instead of the real history?

[@BrianRatkus]

Yes. But Herodotus's accounts, as erroneous as they are, are still historical.

[@barahng]

It embellishes a few things like the numbers of the Greeks but for the most part it's actually pretty accurate. Leonidas and Xerxes both existed, the Greeks were heavily outnumbered and led by Leonidas I of Sparta, and they did use the terrain to their advantage to mitigate the numbers advantage Xerxes had. Even the part where Xerxes sends a messenger to Leonidas to tell him to surrender happened, but Leonidas didn't kick him down a well. Instead when the messenger told him that Xerxes demanded the Greeks surrender their weapons, he replied "Come and take them". Wish that had been in the movie instead its way cooler. The biggest inaccuracies were the number of Greek troops and the fact that it wasn't just Spartans which I think can be forgiven under artistic license. Clearly not done for any weird political reasons.

[@MrMetonicus]

He doesn't like the "Racism" in 300, but loves it in Black Panther.

[@Maybeabandaid9]

Would like but the like number is on point.

[@MrMetonicus]

@@Maybeabandaid9 - What was the number

[@xentionX]

@@MrMetonicus probably 69

[@Maybeabandaid9]

@@MrMetonicus 69

[@StallionStudios1234]

Lol that funny. Dunno why a real Historian would start talking about comic books. Kida pointless.

[@sylvarogre5469]

that "professor" just misidentified the rod/staff of Aesclepius. that is not a symbol of death, but of healing and medicine.

[@wezzuh2482]

Imagine being a professor of classics and not recognizing a basic mythological symbol

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Tbf, metatron also missed this

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

@@yoeyyoey8937 I will give Metatron a pass on this one... at that point his brain may had have to rest and recover for a while.

[@robertpatter5509]

One could interpret that symbol of alchemy conquering death I suppose. As snakes do represent death as well.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@robertpatter5509 yeah there’s some other stuff in there as well, there’s the idea of resurrection or being reborn, which I guess is conquering death, but all of this is associated with Asclepius and his Caduceus, so they miss the mark when they talk about this without mentioning that

[@shanemizell6468]

Definitely want a part 2

[@craigsewell8692]

This “professor” keeps talking about 300 like it’s a historical documentary while completely missing the fact it’s told from the embellished perspective of a commander trying to inspire his troops.

[@sciencecompliance235]

Yeah, it's Spartan propaganda; why wouldn't it be xenophobic?

[@Knightwingofbludhaven]

Exactly.

[@marshalmarshall2109]

it's also a comic book adaptation

[@Tanzenergise]

the movie was based off a comic book by the same name which was INSPIRED by the sparto-persian war. its supposed to be exaggerated and unrealistic

[@TransRoofKorean]

@@sciencecompliance235 and that's why I consider it to be about as historically accurate as a movie could possibly be

[@wrongthinker843]

I think we can all agree on one historic fact: there is no shortage of revisionists who want to butcher facts in service to their agenda.

[@FargonNemeloc]

Funny thing that the revisionist is a white man revising black culture Its like "im a black man following the lies of the white man, so im gonna subvert that and follow the "truths" of the white man"

[@sompret]

Yeah, like Three Kingdoms. Good job on that baby smashing, Liu Bei.

[@le13579]

I guess that I expected academics to be more subtle about it.

[@Geralt.5261]

The professor calling the depiction of the literal INVADERS as monsters from the POV OF THE INVADED "racist" really was the last straw for me. Does he not see that this "rule" fails as soon as it is applied to a culture he "favours"?

[@oblivionsa7973]

That doesn't count. Anything they support is good and anything they don't like is bad. No proof needed because he *feels* it's true. They will literally hold a different stance on the exact same thing based only on who is saying or doing it. He is a dangerous lunatic who teaches his hatred and racism to impressionable young adults every day. If you want to know why things are as bad as they are, it's because of people like him.

[@80krauser]

The contradiction is not a bug, its a feature. Use any and everything as long as it suits you and then discard when it does not.

[@normiedeathsquad40]

Reminds me of that LOTR meme where at the siege of minas tirith gandalf standing with theodan on the walls says looking out at the Park sea says. Well dont be racist, let them in.

[@QualityPen]

@@80krauserYes, 1984 has some things to say about “double think.”

[@EnSayne987]

It's almost like people tend to look very unfavorably about people that are trying to kill and enslave them and the ones they love. The Germans in WWII may have been the genocidal bad guys but come on now people, we can do better than calling them Krauts. That's just rude

[@JackCrow0]

Part of the movie 300 is that it's not only being told from the Spartan perspective, but it's being told by one of the Spartan troops who was sent back to warn Greece about how the Spartans would lose. Of course the Persians are depicted as inhuman monsters the story is literally a solider trying to convince Greece to prepare for war while making his fallen king and comrades seem like heroes.

[@hazrules123]

This is one thing about 300 that is almost never mentioned thanks for pointing it out. The entire depiction and plot is a word of mouth from an unreliable narrator, who is propagandising his people/story to motivate. This is WHY the Persians are depicted as monsters and why the betrayer is disfigured. Not because the director is a “racist” …

[@terminator572]

Not only that, the Zack Snyder movie 300 is based on the comic 300 by Mark Miller. It was never, at any poijt whatsoever meant to be historical, its an action movie with a very thin historical veneer. Its as historically accurate as Romeo and Juliet.

[@badfoody]

it was also based on a comic written by a guy known for super stylistic art

[@jessevarney3298]

I came here to say this. Well put.

[@DankyKang96]

People like this are not smart enough to pick up such things

[@ale_s45]

I refuse to believe he's not an actor pretending to be a University professor and improvising the whole thing

[@JackTorrance333]

No doubt

[@Nurhaal]

That's actually the credentials required to be a professor these days

[@Autobotmatt428]

Sadly he is.

[@marksanders573]

By the end of the video, that was absolutely where my mind was at.

[@88michaelandersen]

I am a professor and I have lots of colleagues just like him.

[@alphariusomegon1637]

That's not a professor, that's an activist.

[@birchmandells]

He identifies as a professor

[@Qba86]

In and of itself there's nothing wrong with being an academic and an activist. If you're doing biomedical research you might also be an activist in raising awareness on issues of public health. If you're an environmental biologist investigating endangered ecosystems, you might simultanously be an activist fighting to protect them. If you're a climate scientist... you're probably fed up with debunking the same old climate denialist BS over, and over again etc. One basic condition though -- don't bend or misrepresent the state of knowledge in any given academic field when doing the activist stuff.

[@autisticphaglosophy7128]

Most academics in the humanities think exactly like this.

[@RealWheelDrive39]

@@Qba86 If youre a climate scientist you know youre pushing bs propaganda just to make us pay higher taxes.. because aparently theres no other solution to climate change other than extreme taxation.

[@ХристоМартунковграфЛозенски]

@@autisticphaglosophy7128 Not most. There are some, definitely, but there are many who are genuine academics and intellectuals.

[@theshieldwall1570]

He's also not Greek (or Mediterranean) talking about Greek culture. Magical hypocrisy that only applies when he feels like it.

[@Hearth123]

The hilarity of him continually praising the historicity of Black Panther whilst criticizing 300 😂 so blatantly political

[@mr.s2005]

agree, they are both comic books not meant to be taken seriously as historic novels.....even though 300 is actually based on a real event and as a few historically accurate points, a isolated country that somehow is able to be economically/militarily strong despite having backwards traditions of deciding leadership like Wakanda is not even remotely possible.

[@ravezon]

Worst still that the 300 battle were real and a recorded history while wakanda is not even a thing. 😂😂😂

[@John_on_the_mountain]

@@ravezonright? Wakanda is pure comic book fiction. Its like praising the historic accuracy of Gotham City or Bikini Bottom

[@oz_jones]

@@ravezon Best part about the 300 film and I assume the comic is that it's clearly propaganda. But Wakanda forever or whatever.

[@ravezon]

@@oz_jones it was something along the line about how 300 spartans alone hold the line at the choke hold long enough to unite greece againts persian invasion into greece or something along that line, while the real history was still 300 spartan but plus a few thousands more other state soldiers holding the line. Wakanda is nowhere to be seen. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Dja05]

This guy doesn't have a degree in mythology, he has a mythological degree.

[@charliebrownie4158]

He don't need no education, his mommies said he's the smartest monkey in the cage.

[@ThePunchDrunkard.]

😂

[@RahStahMon]

It's like that guy who had a theoretical degree in physics.

[@lulzdragon7339]

They said "Welcome aboard!"

[@Lrdnqustr]

@@lulzdragon7339I bet he won the lottery

[@tharg2374]

The snake in the medical logo is a symbol of healing! Ever heard of Asklipios? And he calls himself a "professor"?!

[@b_g_c3281]

Yes:... The Rod of Asclepius (( more common rendering of the god's name _Asklēpiós_ )) is a _Caduceus_ ...and it should be rightly remembered and understood to be the prime symbol of the god of healing. But there is also another _Caduceus_ ...The sacred(( and quite magical )) staff of Hermes...

[@anthonyoer4778]

​@@b_g_c3281yes, thanks. Civilian medicine has been moving towards the staff of askipolis, while the military or older medical institutes have used the caduceus for centuries.

[@samhobbs9116]

This alone is worthy of being sacked.

[@TGPDrunknHick]

@@b_g_c3281 who to be fair Hermes has also been confused for a god of healing before. mostly because they confused his Caduceus with Asclepius.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Tbf metatron missed this too

[@trakkadda]

I always thought that a good teacher is the one that make you develop your own critical mind(?), a bad teacher is the guy that teach you his agenda or his own thoughts.

[@greyfriars6540]

The 'prof' ticked all the DIE boxs. Students are paying 60k pa and being taught BS.

[@ShadowEnigmaTV]

On behalf of England, we do not claim this activist.

[@HighlanderNorth1]

Unfortunately, a significant percentage of English and UK citizens have embraced this silly cultural "M a r k c y s t" stuff.

[@ShadowEnigmaTV]

@@HighlanderNorth1 I'm a dying breed then

[@silverhawkscape2677]

That doesnt mean much unless sadly.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

You mean Inglanstan.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

@@ShadowEnigmaTV We keep a few of you in safe places around the flat Earth, just in case. ;)

[@reyson01]

Not only is 300 not trying to be historically accurate, it's told from the perspective of the Spartan warrior explaining the sacrifice of the 300 spartans and motivating people to go to war. So the enemies become monsters and their own guys become superheroes.

[@wedgeantilles8575]

Yeah, you are correct. I like 300 a lot, but obviously the movie is entertainment and not accurate. Fun fact: The guy who tells the story actually was disgraced in Sparta, so nobody would listen to what he says and he definitly wouldn't make a speech in front of the army. So the historically inaccuracies come full cirle here :)

[@redstorm8373]

It's also loosely based on a graphic novel, that in turn is loosely based on a movie from the 60s, that in turn is loosely based on the writings of Herodotus, who is a questionable source in his own right.

[@wolfofthewest8019]

300 was also written as a reaction to 9/11, and Miller wrote it in support of the War on Terror.

[@Pancake_Nix]

@@wolfofthewest8019 Erm.. so a comic from 1998 is a reaction to 9/11?? Damn! I didn't know Miller is also a fortune-teller.

[@Pancake_Nix]

You are absolutely right! I actually like that a lot about the movie; when you realize the whole movie has been a story told by Dillios (Aristodemus of Sparta) before the battle of Plataea. Even-tho' the movie does not portray him as losing his respect among the Spartans, he does specifically say that his king died and his brothers died. Of course he tells it in a way that makes the Persians look like unworldly monsters in the minds of the Greeks that are imagining the story being told. It's actually a genius way to mix a bunch of fantasy into a historical event and not make every history lover in the world hate you for it.

[@MoviesMusic-sb2dp]

A major red flag for me is that he states (around 12:43) that the museum artifacts from the "Wakanda" movie should not be behind glass, but should be worn, wuuutt!!!! NO!!! They should be PRESERVED!! As a fan of historical fashion, I cringe at people who wear actual historical clothing 19th century and damage it in the process :S

[@sugartoothYT]

Can we also acknowledge that in the movie 300, Leonidas, THE MAIN Spartan, was fairly kind towards Ephialtes and the man betrayed them because he wasn't allowed to fight alongside the Spartans, which Leonidas prefaced by showcasing how Ephialtes wasn't *physically fit* for their shield-strategy the "professor" described. It wasn't even ableism or "beauty standards", it was not endangering the other soldiers.

[@MWK19790]

What i always wondered. Why didn't they put Ephialtes on the far left of the formation?

[@ΝίκοςΠαπαγιάννης-φ4φ]

@@MWK19790 because he would die instantly. His deformed back is not covered from the shield.

[@Astavyastataa]

It is ableism and ableism is good.

[@Vo_Siri]

​​​Ableism is discrimination in spite of practicality. A lame hunchback being physically unable to serve in a phalanx isn't ableism. If Leonidas had denied Ephialtes a role that Ephialtes was entirely capable of performing, solely on the basis of "cripple bad", then it would be ableism, and it would be bad.

[@Astavyastataa]

@@Vo_Siri pretty sure he would have been exposed at birth and thus dead had he been born in Sparta.

[@Tomicrat]

This "professor" does know that Black Panther and 300 were comic books right...??? People like this that don't under stand storytelling always disappoint me.

[@clairehann2681]

And supposedly it the entire point of his doctorate. It's really unsettling how political these people are. Complete lack of academic integrity

[@addidaswguy]

@@clairehann2681 And the WORST part of that, is they are SPEWING this garbage and INDOCTRINATING an entire generation of children and young people.. And its happening as low as even KINDERGARTEN! I feel bad for this generation who will believe everything they are told and THEN teach kids, we are in for a rough few generations unless a big shift happens.

[@joannecrecco]

He just gave it away right from the git-go: “ Professor of Classics in the MODERN WORLD. “ you know right from there is that his studies will be skewed towards a modern agenda.

[@Tallorian]

Exactly my thought, I'm surprised Metatron did not notice that red flag.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Metatron didn't notice because he's not yet met the modern world. As a man who told his parents to go get him a wife, who married me because her father said to, 40 years ago and both very happy...neither has anyone in my family or me. We like the 1600s, minus slavery...well, marriage as slavery is good. Oh, my oldest daughter also asked me to find her a husband. She married 21 days after being introduced. Because in the 1600s divorce is rare and the 2 sexes actually LIKED each other.

[@Blox117]

git? github? do you english?

[@goneloko1368]

I was watching that video, and a lot of red flags went up less than 10 minutes in. Your video was suggested, so I checked it out, and I was like, "Yes! I'm not the only one who noticed these things."

[@Overlord99762]

"Apart from the Greek Problem" Sounds like something a Roman would say 😂

[@Azrael1st]

Ahh those Romans, always whining and complaining like it’s 500BC worse than the British honestly. Thats coming from a Persian.

[@StalkerQtya]

@@Azrael1st And eventually forming the worlds most influential empire, kicking your ass and establishing a legacy, that we still larp as them.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

As barbarian I can only say romanes eunt domus

[@StalkerQtya]

@@HappyBeezerStudios People called Romanes they go the house?

[@xshorty117x]

Or a sabattean

[@yeettea5656]

Did this professor just imply that being masculine and being gay are mutually exclusive?

[@Mailed-Knight]

From a certain point of view, yes. Though considering his entire lecture comes from a maybe fascist/maybe communist point of view, I'm sure he'd be fine if that was your takeaway. Afterall its 'your truth'.

[@lresponsabil]

that is true, gay is not manly and otherwise, a filthy opposite

[@tomigun5180]

Well, if you think the guys in the Blue Oyster are masculine... 😆

[@yeettea5656]

@@Mailed-Knight awesome. I wonder what the point of going to his lectures would be then.

[@tpockett3676]

​@@basilmagnanimous7011 Depends on your uh... taste ;)

[@rumatadestora]

The idea of that "professor" illustrating ancient Greek mythology and whatnot using a marvel movie as an example tells everything about his supposed competence

[@matsv201]

He also seam to think that all of africa is homogenius. Talking about the mix around the mediteranian and then talk about central africa as if they where the same thing. Its also worth saying that the colonization of africa happened very late most of it during the 1890s. Most people dont think about that, but the colonization happened several decades after slaveri was banned in the west.

[@Bertaut]

I don't think you know what "" means. He is a professor. End of. No "". Now, if you'd said "intellectual", that would have been fine.

[@Wintermute909]

Why are so many comments objecting to the professor for talking about movies? Obviously he has sacrificed objectivity, and rationality and all the other things woke ideology demands....but how on earth do you expect him to "review Greek & Roman mythology in movies" without talking about movies? I don't understand why so many people are acting as if this was an academic lecture about ancient mythology and the professor used modern movies to try to illustrate the what the ancient people thought. When in reality this was part of a series by Vanity Fair about "an expert in xyz reviews movie depictions of xyz" and this one was asking the professor to review how movies portray mythology. Please tell me that I've missed something obvious about this because I would never have expected Metatron fans to ignore context like this.

[@finfrog3237]

@@matsv201 colonization was usually building up infrastructure, so besides some of the cons, the alternative was mud huts and still water illnesses that cull local populations. Decolonization must imply returning to the glory of higher infant mortality rates, inferior agriculture and such, as we can witness in South Africa now.

[@finfrog3237]

@@Wintermute909 When I think Ancient Greece, I think Black Panther. You're on to something.

[@timschroyer1257]

A black African comes to England to study engineering. He goes to a museum which happens to have artifacts from his native land. The sheer fact that he is black and from that culture does not make him an expert in antiquities history and archaeology. The white woman curator taking loving care of preserving these artifacts and presenting them to the world to increase our knowledge of other cultures has spent a lifetime focused on learning all about that culture. So how is it a problem that she imparts knowledge she has to someone who does not? In the movie she is given no clue that this person knows anymore than someone who walked in off the street.

[@irw8367]

The person she’s conversing with is literally the villain of the movie… there’s no point asking a question like you just did lol. He’s not meant to make the most righteous decisions and he came to the museum with a purpose

[@rashomonsan]

@@irw8367 So Meineck is taking the villain's side? LMAO.

[@irw8367]

@@rashomonsan no he’s explaining what’s happening the film and it’s link to history

[@Angrondies]

Stolen by colonialism.

[@themindflayerst_]

I'm a classical archaeologist and to me this "professor" is an absolute joke. The stuff he's coming out with was ridiculous. He is definitely pandering to the modern ideals of gender and race. Thank you for taking the time to call him out!

[@IronFreakV]

What's truly insulting and truly worrisome is that not only does this guy have a career in "higher" education: he is portrayed as an "expert" by the media. It almost doesn't matter how many people see through this and can tear him apart at every level , because the media will give them a platform anyway and give them a reach and influence over all demographics. It's downright terrifying

[@themindflayerst_]

@@IronFreakV agreed

[@LevelUP84]

The modern, extreme leftist ideology about gender is what is insane and specifically Eurocentric.

[@peterk2735]

@@IronFreakVThat’s the problem, you can’t have a serious conversation about history without at least 2-3 experts taking part. Facts are facts, but us history nerds interpret them in different ways, not to mention the sources themselves were written by other people who are bound to be biased to some extent. The truth comes out when differing opinions clash, that’s why both ancient Greeks and Romans placed such a big focus on oratory and debating. Unfortunately these days, everything is an echo chamber supporting a specific narrative

[@DogWalkerBill]

If I recall, Wakanda is a fictional place made up by Marvel comics. Vibranium is a fictional substance made up by Marvel comics. So this Professor is lecturing me based on fiction, about what he thinks, I think about real Africa.

[@ThursonJames]

He went full-“They Wuz Kangs”. Never go full-“They Wuz Kangs”.

[@noxplay4906]

Lol I love that meme so much. It pisses off the really politically biased people who love wokeism

[@ThursonJames]

@@noxplay4906 you missed a meme: “Never go full-retard” is a quote from Tropic Thunder.

[@CatsOverdrive]

I genuinely cherish the "egyptians v israelites" diss/rap battle. Thank you for showing me that, Metokur.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

That’s literally what all the white peoples saying this are doing. “We wuz filosofers”

[@robertpatter5509]

​@@yoeyyoey8937 Why? Because of innate traits. They must embrace the Blank Slate lie. They cannot even think that groups are better than others. That's Heresy. And they do see it as Heresy.

[@billywydola3388]

"No, only people who don't know geography forget that." 😂

[@camilofonseca2073]

As an African myself, there is A LOT I could say about this "professor" and debunk him. However, considering the amount of balderdash and lies, I don't think it's worth it. Let's just laugh at this revisionism and ignorance 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@felipepicolo]

És Angolano ou Moçambicano? (Talvez Cabo verdiano?)

[@camilofonseca2073]

@@felipepicolo angolano

[@felipepicolo]

@@camilofonseca2073 Imaginei que fosse, devido ao nome. Um abraço daqui do estado do Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, desde que KZbinrs como o Baptista Miranda vieram pra cá o interesse que os Brasileiros (ao menos os da internet) têm pelo vosso país aumentou e a Internet diminuiu a distância entre nós e os outros países lusófonos consideravelmente. Muito legal saber que temos muito mais em comum do que o idioma (e a ancestralidade de boa parte dos brasileiros).

[@camilofonseca2073]

@@felipepicolo opa. Abraço irmão. Edit: com relação ao meu nome já é uma outra e longa história.

[@le13579]

Thanks for speaking up about this.

[@nickdesanto6119]

"Remember Africa is half of the Mediterranean." Remember South America is half of America, so clearly, lady liberty is brazillian.

[@StarboyXL9]

If Lady Liberty was Brazilian there'd be a lot more doujins of her.

[@janosd4nuke]

This comment made me imagine how hilarious it would be to switch the Jesus statue up to New York and the Statue of Liberty down to Rio.

[@christianlenik5307]

Strictly Lady Liberty is MADAME LIBERTÉE because she is from FRANCE

[@CoreyattheQ]

​@@christianlenik5307only because the French didn't want her.

[@ProfSplendorFaction]

@CoreyattheQ hey buddy, did you just blow in from stupid town?

[@wyssmaster]

"This white woman is explaining the culture to someone who actually is of this culture" No, she isn't. Killmonger's father was Wakandan and was raised in the country, but Killmonger himself was born and raised in America.

[@kimmiewise1044]

On top of the fact that he is ignorant of the fact that Africans were equally capable of trade with Europeans so the artifact wasn't even stolen but traded for, likely for muskets, Sugar or rum. It's actually even MORE offensive that he believes that the African tribe that the English originally found the artifact in was so weak and stupid and helpless that the just let these white people likely already barely surviving Malaria just take their shit and leave. It's like saying that the Pilgrims STOLE corn from native Americans and every white person not must upchuck any corn based nutrition they have ever consumed because pilgrims stole corn. When we all know that Pilgrims and Natives TRADED GOODS AND SERVICES LIKE CIVILIZED PEOPLE.

[@PLF...]

He obviously hasn't seen it.

[@oblitusunum6979]

Funny how the guy accuses whites of stealing black culture and selling it right before he shows her saying that the items aren't and him threatening her and stealing the stuff

[@enraikow6109]

oh no no no, you see, he learned it by readinggg... from a book see... ... that was written by... white people.... huh.

[@beebobox]

He has seen the skin color, thats all he needs to see, in his opinion.

[@terminusest5902]

Slavery has a very long history of Europeans enslaving other Europeans. This was a very practical practice, as imprisonment of criminals or captured soldiers would need to pay for their own upkeep. The other option was execution in many cases. And even slavery had potential benefits when compared. Many slaves developed relationships with other slaves and had families. Also, slavery was not always permanent. Some enterprising slaves could even buy their own freedom. Or other opportunities to gain freedom. This was in an age before mechanisation was available and a supply of food was not guaranteed. So prisoners not working could not help pay for their own food. Not saying slavery was good, but there were worst options. Though a great many slaves worked in horrific conditions, and often very dangerous conditions. In our modern age, slavery is not needed or acceptable.

[@jormungandr7885]

As soon as someone uses the word "problematic", you know exactly what kind of agenda they're about to push.

[@dagoogler01]

Anything that opposes the gay, racially preferential, socialist revolution

[@leroysanchino]

The truth is problematic

[@isaachester8475]

He doesn’t even say the right word. He says “problematical”

[@geochonker9052]

ThIs cOmMenT iS sO pRobLEmAtICAl

[@Drako9823]

This guy even lied about the Caduceus staff being a "symbol of death" as opposed to healing and peace. So much for our academic institutions...

[@perisleaf]

Holy shit I actually cant anymore

[@JamesDunn-sk2sj]

Not only does he lie about the Caduceus being a symbol of death, but he confuses it with the Rod of Asclepius. The Caduceus was the symbol of Hermes / Mercury the Greek and Roman messager god.

[@thomaspetrucka9173]

Came here to say this. It's a symbol that was specifically chosen by people who were familiar with Greek culture.

[@Drako9823]

@@JamesDunn-sk2sj I knew sometihng was off when he didn't mention the wings or other snake lol. Both rods are a symbol of medicine in the end so I cannot believe this guy at all. Print-out PHDs be wildin'.

[@ErickWhite-Gronok]

I caught that as well. It is a symbol of healing, and has a few different sources and thus a few different representations. Why would he do such a thing?

[@timothypeterson4781]

I like how he forgets how the Persian empire became so multiethnic. It wasn't because they were so awesome all the neighboring states asked to join them.

[@tom_demarco]

The Persians were awesome

[@rannenw6207]

​@tom_demarco They were also a culture and empire built on the colonization and enslavement of others around them. Most, if not all members of the Persian empire, were brought to heel by the sword.

[@briton3851]

@@tom_demarcono they weren’t, they were pathetic

[@Holtijaar]

And of course he wouldn't dare to mention that Persians themselves weren't black at all, and probably would not have non-persian commanders in their ranks. They looked similar to modern Iranians.

[@tom_demarco]

@@rannenw6207 cyrus abolished slavery. You are just making shit up

[@JoeyP946]

I saw that guy in the video, I lasted about 3 minutes before I thought "who the hell is this idiot"

[@AllanTidgwell]

Why do people associate the African continent with a particular race and culture? North Africa is not the same as Sub-Saharan Africa. The Bedouins are not the same as the Bantu. It's akin to thinking all of North America is Mexican The Mediterranean isn't "African", it was Mediterranean. A unique geopolitical region. And today, it's not even unified. There's Mediterranean Europe, The Levant, and the Magrheb. The latter two being more unified

[@housewilma4904]

because thats how they were taught to think that literal color is the people. bwak is all people who are darker tone and wuhite is anyone of lighter tone. this is why these same people say asianandcacasian are interchangable and that a greek is the same thing as a irishman. and that somaliaan people should just naturally get alone with morrocans cause "ya both brownies so you must like each other".

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Subsaharan Africa is the most ethnically diverse place on the planet. So you are also making a mistake lumping them all together

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@housewilma4904lol

[@carloshenriquezimmer7543]

@@yoeyyoey8937 that is literally his point, he is denouncing the habbit that those folks have to see any person considered black as a single culture/etnicity.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 I’m pointing out that potentially he made the same mistake but maybe he just didn’t want to be more nuanced in his post and that’s ok

[@kelly4187]

By this mans own principles, he should be resigning from a position teaching classics when he is not Italian or Greek. What a stupid ideology.

[@pieseldatches]

He can't because there's a high chance he's from a certain group.

[@DimitriMoreira]

Italian?! Why "Italian" only? The roman empire was enormous and just because for the most part its capital was Rome, not Italy in its entirety but Rome only, the only current nationality accepted as "romans" are Italians? No. You either keep it roman, as in people from the city of Rome, or you respect geography and history and anyone from Portugal to Turkey could be considered "roman" by today's standards.

[@dimitrispapavasileiou7025]

The fact he is stating is he could be martian for all we care. He will be judged for his knowledge on Roman history if he is preaching this particular subject as a self Proclaiming expert.

[@OveToranger]

And don't forget he's not African either...so he can't say ANYTHING about African culture or history...that'd be racist

[@ericmassoni]

@@DimitriMoreira In fact, yes, it is natural to consider the Italians as bearers of the Roman Empire. It's quite simple, you don't consider the Spanish as French because they were part of Napoleon's Empire, or the Chinese as Mongols because they were part of the Mongol Empire, or the Turks as Byzantines because they occupy the territory of Byzantium (Rome). The Roman Empire is a construct on the Italian peninsula that conquered almost all of Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor.

[@DavidM_10]

As an Englishman, I'm embarrassed to hear that this man is English, and I'm also dismayed by the state of the American education system where this man has found a home. He makes both of our countries look ridiculous.

[@Angus-McFife-2nd]

He was most likely thrown out of English education.

[@DavidM_10]

​@@Angus-McFife-2nd I'd like to think so.

[@adventussaxonum448]

​@@Angus-McFife-2nd The way things are at present, I wouldn't bet on it.

[@Angus-McFife-2nd]

@@adventussaxonum448 Good point. We have been infected by Americans "leftism". My son is 9. Last year he brought home a school book on gender. The opening page read "These 2 women were assigned male at birth by a doctor". His mother and I have kept all conversations on that subject away from him because he is a child. We never mention anything around that at all to preserve his innocence as long as possible. We then are called into the school because he told his teacher "they are not women, they are men with broken brains". Qué the next 20 mins of us trying to work out where he has heard it before...

[@mikeshinoda703]

Yep

[@LlyleHunter]

People are asking why the standards for professorships have dropped so remarkably but I noticed that when I attended university over forty years ago that some of my own professors were products of an insular environment who would never be able to survive in any other environment other than the university system.

[@JacktheDoctor]

My God. It looks like this professor literally learnt about Medusa from this movie. In this movie Medusa is cast as an attractive woman, so his points seem valid from his perspective using the film as a source. In Greek mythology, which he is attributing these features of beauty and rite of passage for a man, he could not be more off. Medusa is depicted as a woman with living snakes in place of hair; her appearance was so HIDEOUS that anyone who looked upon her was turned to stone. It is NOT a sex thing. Between his hypocrisy, his lack of knowledge, alack of understanding of the source material, and his projection of current ideals to people thousands of years ago, this guy is an absolute joke. Does he not understand that Clash of the Titans and 300 are not documentaries!?! I'm almost convinced he believes Wakanda is real. Holy shit.

[@rattusrattus761]

Academics like this always seem to "research" just far enough to where the have what they want to validate their own bias, then stop short of what might challenge it.

[@GeneralToxicus]

There are some modern feminist and some psychoanalytical interpretations by Freud and others where the story of Medusa is likened to have something to do with sexuality, castration etc. It's possible the "professor" got his interpretations from that. Either way, it's a mistake because those are modern interpretations. He should've instead referenced what the actual Greeks wrote and thought about the Medusa mythology. Contemporary interpretations are irrelevant.

[@1SpicyMeataball]

I'm surprised he didn't go with the current feminist retelling of "Medusa was the victim and Perseus was a toxic man!"

[@ChaoticYak1]

@@GeneralToxicus Even my brother who is a psychologist thinks that Freud's conclusions should be avoided. I didn't realize anyone was still using him as a source.

[@toodlescae]

He should have watched the Clash Of The Titans version starring Harry Hamlin instead of the remake. Medusa was most certainly *not* beautiful in that version. 😂

[@Desperado_Dweller]

Why are modern historians so out of touch when it comes to African culture, so many uses Black Panther as a peak point in African history. It's a Marvel comic, it's fiction.

[@Drikkerbadevand]

Its because while african history and culture exists and is interesting, it PALES in comparison to european history and accomplishments. So instead of just embracing what they have they cope by making up a fictional world where their racism shines through

[@blisterfingers8169]

Created by a pair of Jewish guys.

[@dustinwatkins7843]

Well that's why they asked him there - to compare movies with myths and history.

[@rulerofkripsy9143]

@@Drikkerbadevand Eurocentric dribbling lmoa

[@scandisamurai8899]

Yet another man "Feeding the Crocodile, Hoping It Will Eat Him Last".

[@CorruptDemocratsJ6]

Exactly.

[@bukelos2804]

Cool analogy, very correct assesment.

[@slopcrusher3482]

Unfortunately this mindset has become common history and archaeology academia. It’s difficult to find unbiased and neutral history being taught at many institutions. Yes, there is an aspect of interpretation to history, but many professors take this too far just to make history more relatable to their students. This is because, unfortunately, most history classes now are taken by students who need it as an elective. Since the college needs the student’s money, they’ll modify their classes like history and English to make them easier and more relatable instead of it being a hard history course.

[@zeenaworters5200]

You are the most fun I’ve come across on KZbin for a long time. Thank you for your knowledge and humour

[@zenkaiangel977]

What baffles me about these so called "Professors/Historians/Etc." is how they nearly always exclude the fact that Sparta (and tons of cultures throughout history) lived in far more dangerous times than we do but still love to try to force modern ideas or culture into their version of the story no matter how little sense it makes, and still to this day don't expect to be called out even though it's on the internet. Good for you, Metatron, keep calling these hacks out 🙏

[@simpsondr12]

In the most cynical possible view you can look at is as then not wanting you to learn history. They preach diversity and all about different cultures, but people that lived 100s or 1000s of years ago are held to the same standards as modern people in the West. And now there's increasingly a move to say that anyone that is interested in history like that must be a bad person. It's started happening often. In fiction too. Go look up people cosplaying as Stormtroopers and you'll get people complaining because they think being interested and entertained by something means you endorse all of their ideals.

[@jameydunne3920]

But we don't have to fight for our existence, and we're better and more enlightened because of that. Haven't you been keeping up with the modern views of the world- we're horrible, awful creatures, but since the previous cultures made us that way it's not our fault. Therefore, we are still better than all previous generations, because we acknowledge that we suck and they didn't so that makes us way more awesomer than everyone else. And shinier too.

[@steliosmaris]

Not to mention that he is not Greek and he’s “schooling” Greeks on our history and mythology.

[@tomigun5180]

Looks like American liberals know everything better about us, than we Europeans do. 😆

[@RockerfellerRothchild1776]

I'm Galician and know more about Greco Roman culture than this dim bulb

[@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew]

Keep that same energy when you white people try and teach Ancient Egyptian history

[@mardenhill]

well, just because someone is greek doesn't mean he automatically understands or knows greek history. not to say that this dude knows anything about it, either. 🤣🤣

[@liamsanchezgoestovegas]

I watched Clash of The Titans and I know more about Greek Mythology than this dork.

[@Hoi4o]

People like that are neither teachers, nor academics, they are political activists and ideologues.

[@williammontgrain6544]

15:52 I think a great way to express this would be to say that culture and ethnicity are not academic credentials.

[@mannyvidsnyc]

He’s part of the “I have a doctorate’s degree, therefore, everything I say is true club.” 🤣

[@jollyjakelovell6822]

This NYU professor is not only a shield dropper but and ankle grabber, IMHO. Strange that the part of Africa that borders Mediterranean is more closely tied to the part of Europe that also shares that inland sea up to and including the DNA of all of its people North, South, East and West than it is to Africa of the sub-Saharan regions.

[@Gobear1]

Hating on gay people is not cool. You can can refute this professor's nonsense with out dipping down into anti-gay bigotry.

[@m0-m0597]

@@Gobear1 waaaaaaa waaaaa 👶

[@lawrenceragnarok1186]

​@@Gobear1 wow that's a cringe take lol

[@Gobear1]

@@lawrenceragnarok1186 So is calling a guy an ankle-grabber.

[@TheKangist]

Egyptians and berbers are mostly west asian related, MENAs deserve their own category

[@Benevolent_Fafnir]

What the heck is a “professor of classics in the modern world”? Rule number one when it comes to history is that it’s NOT the modern world. God, I’m so tired of all this misinformation being spread about antiquity online.

[@iota-09]

from what i'm reading he's... a professor of teathre plays witha penchant for greek mythology and social studies? if you copypaste his title in google, his resume is the only thing showing up... "Peter Meineck holds the endowed chair of Associate Professor of Classics in the Modern World at New York University. He specializes in ancient performance, cognitive theory, Greek literature and culture and humanities public programming. Professor Meineck received his PhD in Classics from the University of Nottingham and his BA (hons) in Ancient World Studies from University College London. In addition to his academic career he has worked extensively in the professional theatre in New York and London, founding Aquila Theatre in 1991. His national public programs have earned a Chairman’s Special Award from the National Endowment for the Humanities and numerous grants from the National Endowment for the Arts, New York State Council on the Arts, the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, The Hayden, Onassis and Mid Atlantic Arts foundations, among others. These programs include Ancient Greeks/Modern Lives, The Warrior Chorus and Shakespeare Leaders in Harlem. He has also directed, and or produced over 50 productions of classical plays at venues as diverse as Lincoln Center, Brooklyn Academy of Music, Carnegie Hall, The Ancient Stadium at Delphi and the Bush and Obama White House. His productions of classical drama have toured extensively throughout North America and Europe."

[@joak9992]

Here's a translation; "professor of turning historical classics into modern propaganda". Far as I can tell, his job is to find some way to use historical classics to push modern politics.

[@Benevolent_Fafnir]

@@joak9992 it’s absolutely terrifying that this is a real thing.

[@PortilloMoment]

@@joak9992 So he's really a Professor of Presentism. Interesting. And ridiculous.

[@gammle-vikingr]

Major red flag there. I’m surprised Metatron missed it.

[@Kinotaurus]

The first alarm bells rang when he described himself as "professor of Classics FOR THE MODERN WORLD".

[@Wayoutthere]

Same, it immediately shows he can't and won't be able to differentiate past and current day morals. Aka, a wokejoke.

[@kylemendoza8860]

These people have a very precise word pattern. So it's nice to give themselves away like in 10 seconds.

[@franzosisch5965]

He doesn't even get the story of Clash of the Titans correctly. Perseus doesn't go on a trip to become a man or rid the world of Medusa. They needed her head to SAVE THEIR CITY.

[@MNkno]

In college I noticed that there were 2 types of professor. One was the very intelligent, hardworking, often working-class person who studied and trained and may not look pretty, but knew their subject thoroughly. The other came from enough money to support university study through the PhD level, no problem there, and who liked the status and work hours so that was what they did while looking good and being well-spoken. If you really want to know stuff, choose the first group, and if you want to hang out with the cool kids, choose the latter. This guy is really, truly and deeply the latter. Vanity Fair knows how to choose them. And he says the right things to appeal to Vanity.

[@barryseebo3535]

In my small town we have a community college, a small university and a Coast Guard base. While I was teaching briefly at the community college, I had a retired coastie who was the NCO in charge of training at the base. He told me that it was a common phrase on the base, if you want to get a piece of paper go to the university, but if you want to learn something go to the community college. I went to said university, and there were plenty of claptrap professors who held and promulgated ridiculous ideas, likely because they wanted to shape young clones of themselves (I was immune as I was 36 when I attended), whereas the community college seemed to have more of those who were more interested in sharing their knowledge (except for one sociology instructor I argued with constantly because she was full of ideology even in the 90s). That said, you are correct, there was a very different demeanor between the two.

[@JohnnyJohnnyGalt]

It's funny that he tries to spin Killmonger taking the mask as somehow positive or as a reclaiming of tradition, when in the movie, Killmonger himself points out he has no cultural connection to the mask, he just thinks it looks cool. In other words, he steals something from another culture and wears it as a trophy with no regard for the object's origin or traditional use. Y'know, kinda like what he accuses the museum of doing. I wonder if this Killmonger fellow might be... A BAD Guy?

[@scottdpugnificent]

The irony is the killmonger character is a warning not to take racial vengeance because that makes you the racial oppressor, where the black panther character shares his technology and culture, although carefully because he forgives those who have wronged his people but doesn't give them his trust.

[@Thx1138sober]

Kids are going 15- 20 years of crashing debt and this is the crap that our universities are selling them.

[@peterk2735]

My grandpa was a retired colonel, military historian and journalist. He used to joke that the difference between ancient academics and modern ones is that Socrates, one of the greatest thinkers in history, said “I know that I know nothing”, while your university prof is telling you “Buy my overpriced book if you want to pass”. As a rule of thumb, I’m always suspicious if there’s only one “expert” behind the camera, cause they can say the biggest bullshit and most journalists these days aren’t educated enough to fact-check them.

[@room2growrose623]

So glad you’re out here doing this. I can’t believe Black Panther a Hollywood movie is being compared to real stories and ancient mythology. Why didn’t he talk about real African mythology? SMH.

[@Hercules1-v9m]

I've followed this channel for years. Metatron has always been polite and professional. So when Metatron calls someone an idiot, they are indeed an idiot.

[@joshabraham3173]

This really concerns me how humans 100 years from now could interpret the things we do today.

It's all a cycle... history is rewritten by the politicians, and they changed based on where the cycle is.

[@liwojenkins]

I'm more concerned there won't be humans in 100 years. I won't be around to see that end, but it looks like the world is racing towards it.

Amazing it deleted my comment. Political will has a habit of redefining history.

[@kitsun3062]

I can't remember the last time I laughed so much and learned so many interesting things at the same time! Thank you for that

[@garlandmueller740]

Brandolinis Law: The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is in an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Law is incorrect. The emperor's new clothes is an example of when refuting bs requires minimal effort.

[@SiCkMiNiMaLsTyLe]

@@JRRodriguez-nu7po Proving the truth to the one that's spewing bs tho is almost impossible. Cause they'd rather die than to admit that they were wrong.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

There is no objective truth, but there are varying degrees of "wrong". We must always strive to be less wrong. The bad part is that there are far more ways to be wrong than to be less wrong.

[@EVSmith-by9no]

@@DonVigaDeFierro If there is no such thing as truth then how could there be varying degrees of wrong? Surely something is a degree of wrong in relation to what is true?

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@EVSmith-by9no It's all in relation to evidence and other levels of wrong. "California is an island" is more wrong today than it was 500 years ago, given the available evidence. We don't need to know the ultimate truth to compare a statement against the available evidence.

[@JinzoTK]

This "professor" chose to talk about Wakanda rather than actual African history. I guess he doesn't think the real world history of Africa is interesting so focuses on the fiction produced by Disney. I mean he talked about the history of places like Sparta and Greece (even if he got it wrong). But not Africa. An entire continent filled with many countries to choose from.

[@PeregrinTintenfish]

I am not sure he choose to talk about Wakanda. He was reacting to mythology in pop culture. He doesn't seem to actually know about African mythology so he can only compare it to Greek and Roman mythology.

[@JinzoTK]

@@PeregrinTintenfish Ok so he was shown Black Panther but had no knowledge on African mythology to draw upon so he just went off talking about Africa based on what the movie showed? The movie made by Disney. Doesn't make it any better in my opinion considering his obvious political positions.

[@jimmyfrench4722]

I don’t recall him talking much about Wakanda. He spoke a bit on the mask. He spoke to a white woman lecturing a black man on African history. He spoke to another mask. His topic was mythology representation in film. Was Black Panther not a film? Is Bast not in Mythology? Is ancestor worship not in mythology? Is the use of masks in rituals not tied to mythology? So, was this not, albeit weak and oft off-point, a discussion of mythology representation in film? I think he mentions Wakanda in bringing up the movie & as a tie to hidden/lost mythology of Africa. Sure, I’d rather him delve into the representation of Bast/Bastet in the film. Talk about why she was a good choice due to her aspects/realms, why they chose to portray her in a certain way as opposed to more common historical representations…there was opportunity with this movie selection.

[@oliviadiale8382]

He probably thinks wkanda is real

[@AntediluvianRomance]

​@@jimmyfrench4722 A good choice? Not a lame choice of using the same old Egyptian mythology to represent all of Africa?

[@Ultra04channel]

I never really understood the Black Panther museum scene. I have a massive respect for museums, regardless of where they are, since they actively preserve history which is something I wish to do as well. So someone insulting the modern day historians who had nothing to do with the (assumed) theft of artifacts, and are only working to preserve the history and culture that's hundreds, if not thousands of years old just feels... Yikes.

[@thelastknight8794]

I absolutely agree!

[@housewilma4904]

and that whole idea that artificats were "stolen" is bullshitte. people got permission from local authoriers paying them WHAT THEY ASKED FOR in order to get the rights to dig and keep artifcacts. ironically the truly stolen artifacts in muesem are from LOCALS who stol there on history for some easy cash during the archealogical boom.

[@Terter1551]

@@housewilma4904 Wow! Have you ever been to the British museum?

[@MW_Asura]

That part was a cringefest

[@CrispyCircuits]

I will point out a simple fact. I do not have the money to travel to each and every part of Europe and Africa and Australia and Canada and South America and ... If there were not any displays of artifacts from other places on Earth, then we would all be prevented from ever being exposed to anything more than pictures and videos. That would be very ...-ist. I don't know what kind of (insert stem here)ist it is, but an extremely nasty and selfish one. IMHO.