ITS OVER and it ended like a wet fart! Acolyte Finale REVIEW

[@councilofkarens729]

Maybe the real Acolyte was the brain cells we lost along the way.

[@BaneOfV]

When the 2 trillion brain cells I lost, combine back together, the big bang happens

[@councilofkarens729]

@@BaneOfV That's one trillion nine hundred ninety-nine billion nine hundred ninety-nine million nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine more brain cells than the entire combined writing staff of this dreck have.

[@zachv465]

Brilliant 🤣

[@annalivia1308]

Maybe the real Acolyte was watching videos made by "real Star Wars fans" having weekly meltdowns?

[@councilofkarens729]

@@annalivia1308 You mean the b1gots of the toxic brood? 🤣

[@cgharty]

Spare a thought for the best character in this s-show: Torbin. His story is actually the perfect allegory for the audience experience: Dragged into a task for 7 weeks without a clue as to why we’re here. All we want is to desperately go back home to the Star Wars we know and love. Disney (aka Jedi Council) says we’ve got to stay because…reasons. So when we see a hint of a decent lightsaber battle, off we go on our speeders saying maybe this is the point our fortunes change. But no, our desperate hope is swatted down by Headland mindgames with the next three episodes. At the end of it, we leave, shell-shocked and vowing to never speak of this abomination of a show ever again. 16 years later, someone asks us to recount our experience of the Acolyte and we happily take the poison rather that dredge that crap up again. Raise your glasses to Torbin. He took one for the team. Damn this show.

[@MH-jx1hc]

"I think Sol killed himself." "Can we see the autopsy report." "No, I burnt the body."

[@Сайтамен]

The skinny guy: But his body was unharmed, there was no trace of poison and why didn't he kill May? Actually, who trained May and where's Osha's body?

[@bethanyh1637]

"Can we talk to the hamster?" "Uhhh... oh shit"

[@jeffsmith5436]

“Well can we see the ashes then?” “No, I burnt him in space.”

[@combatking0]

@@jeffsmith5436 As we all _know_ fire burns in space just like it does on stone.

[@markgregorygacosta531]

Episode 3: I'm the worst episode Episode 7: Hold my thread Episode 8: Oh my sweet summer child Season 2: (menacingly smiles in a corner)

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

I literally will not be watching videos on an S2. I'm nauseous just listening to recaps of episodes of S1.

[@jamesc8968]

​@@johnj.spurgin7037 let's pray even Disney isn't stupid enough to waste another 1/4 billion dollars on this shit

[@EthanBSide]

😂🤣🤣

[@generalseal6948]

the acolyte couldve been 8 hours of people doing their taxes and it wouldve been more entertaining

[@paintedblue1791]

Close what you just watched looked like some people doing Tax FRUAD !

[@ThePhoenixScribe]

Agreed, man. Heck, I find cleaning toilets more entertaining than the slop that is The Acolyte.

[@councilofkarens729]

It would certainly have been less taxing.... (see what I did there?)

[@hugovandyk9918]

The Papers Please game was more exciting and it was a game where the player plays as border guard checking document authenticity.

[@lumeronswift]

No... because there would be no KZbin channels writing up responses.

[@davesilkstone6912]

Osha's story is a parallel for Leslye Head's relationship with Harvey Weinstein

[@takanara7]

Sol telling Osha he "loved" her - sounds like pretty fucked up tbh. The whole jedi thing of paring young girls with 'masters' in their 20s or w/e. Kind of wonder if it's a metaphor for her relationship with Weinstein.

[@exomake_mehorololo]

​@@takanara7Jedi masters would have always been paired up w young padawan. That's how it worked. Considering who the Jedi are it would not be weird nor should it be seen as such to have a male master w a female padawan and the other way around. It's disgusting this show would even make it look like an issue

[@uncardedreviews9721]

What if Catholic priests were paired with altar boys...Oh wait 🤔

[@perplexed89]

​@@uncardedreviews9721yea, you would call them sith.

[@ericohm9474]

​@JSBrown303, which again goes back to Leslie headland and the type of person she is. Where as George would portray it as a familiar connection, Leslie makes it a power dynamic with sexual undertones, especially between kamir and maye

[@thepaxbisonica4742]

Also, the story that Sol murdered the 3 jedi would not stick because multiple Jedi know that the eyewitness description of the killer is a black female and secondly, Sol was also at the jedi temple training younglings when Indara was killed. Thirdly, the Jedi at the other temple were with Sol when Torbin took his own life. Multiple Jedi know that Sol could not have committed the murders. His alibi is the other Jedi. So there is no way he could be framed for the murders because no one would believe the story 🤦‍♂

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 I suppose they will just ship those Jedi who go "Wait but I was with Sol that day" to some far off corner temple And any witnesses will be told to file their statement to the Jedi Order, to our green bean who will then delete the testimony and say "What Testimony?" 😂 All this feels so needlessly complex for a story this mid. They even got Yoda involved smh.

[@DeadDingoDan]

Yes, but you're using logic here, and as we all know, that's a misogynistic hate crime that discriminates against people's feelings

[@hectoraccented5312]

But the external investigation that lasted 2 minutes said the jedi master Nepo perfectly explained all, it was all the fault of some imperfect man that died and was cremated, and the show ended so all is well. Stamp and archive.

[@DeadDingoDan]

@hectoraccented5312 it ended like raiders, "top men are looking into it" "but" "Top! Men!"

[@DaNinja60]

Most of his witnesses are dead though being the other Jedi that were with him. It's horrible writing either way it goes.

[@MarkLittle-rq2bq]

After Vernestra finishes her report, Yoda's brow furrows and say, "GREAT deception I sense in you. To lie, I did not teach...and bad at it, you are. Take over the investigation, I will. A Jedi, you are not."

[@BeanoTubes]

Please can you do a video testing how flammable a solid stone castle is 🏰 🔥 😂

[@Darkstar-qb3dh]

@deany2274 THATS AMAZING!!! I need this

[@takanara7]

Also if the stone was flammable, why didn't it ALL burn? There should have been nothing left.

[@theevermind]

It must have been the coating(s) they used on the stone.

[@MatthewLoom]

It takes Dragon fire to melt stone.

[@GamingProspector84]

Flammable lacquer / paint coating. Defies reality otherwise.

[@MarkLittle-rq2bq]

"Sol, my dear old friend..." *throws Sol under the bus*

[@jjjmadness8306]

Osha's whole character arc was wanted to become a Jedi, failed miserably at it, and then become an Acolyte to protect the Jedi, despite the fact they did nothing wrong.

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

As in she's the hero or the villain in the series?

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 Villain. Everyone left alive is a villain in the show.

[@darrenmays2036]

@@nuclearmedicineman6270literally. All the good characters died but the show acts like it was some sort of justice

[@Сайтамен]

Protect the Jedi? You mean punish them?

[@temptempy1360]

Sal on mission: transponder. Sole Wookie Jedi on lengthy planet mission : no way to locate?

[@kamotrof]

They got the memory wipe idea from Legends. The Jedi Council wiped the memory of Revan. However, it took the ENTIRE COUNCIL to do it and they wiped his entire memory. He had no clue who he was. This selective mind wipe crap from a single person in like 5 seconds as easy as he did it, just doesn’t make any sense.

[@jeffsmith5436]

NONE of it makes any sense.

[@connormckeel9564]

This, there's several force powers that have recently been taken out of proportion. Mind wiping took the entire council. Bastila having a super rare ability that lets one nudge others emotions to solidify allies or break enemies. Someone using force sense being more of a I feel a collection of negative emotions from this general area. All overpowered but limited and thus acceptable.

[@a_fine_edition2746]

The sheer fact that they threw this ability in completely out of the blue is hilarious. Like, there is NO setup for it or foreshadowing, at all. Smilo just suddenly goes “oh, I can wipe her mind” completely unprompted and without any previous build-up in anything either in the show or in other recent expanded material.

[@nanashi_no]

Wtf rotten tomato score went up by 1%!!!? Force is strong with simps

[@DaNinja60]

Yet the Holiday Special is still better. 😂

[@Metalingus-AB]

Oh my Thread!

[@ditobaon]

I think it's because most people stopped watching and/or caring. All that's left are the people who like it, albeit a much smaller crowd.

[@nanashi_no]

@@Metalingus-AB oh yeah sorry. Thread is strong with simps!

[@VespoLiveGaming]

Note the damaged bridge is still standing, the two ends of the bridge are only at a moderate angle, so the twins could have easily survived by either grabbing the railing, or taking a few steps back instead of standing there reaching towards empty space and calling each other's names for several minutes waiting for the bridge to collapse more.

[@Terbs-24]

😅 yep

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 you'd think the cult would teach them how to float things and thus try to levitate eachother. Or Sol pulling them off the bridge.

[@deathsdoor07]

How did Mae survive? Where did her alien mother go? Why did Smilo go to train Mae and how did he know about the power of Two? Does this mean that Occupational Safety and Health Administration will become Plaguies master?

[@Сайтамен]

It was hanging for 16 years...

[@KoshoShinogi]

It would've been such a more interesting concept than twins, one good and one evil, if Osha and Mae were just one character who either had a split personality, or Smilo Ren was erasing her memories after she kills Jedi. That would've made for much better conflict when the Jedi investigate the assassinations and Osha actually doesn't remember doing anything.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

"Its over" And now I can finally sleep without thinking of this thing again.

[@Dazgul]

Need to watch several reviews tearing into it first to purge it.

[@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω]

I think they are planning a second season

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

Until the next space shit show from Disney.

[@RaymondSanders-f8c]

But wait, there's more! Season 2 may soon get greenlit. At least it'll be content for YT Channels to talk about. Clickbait Paradise 😃😃

[@councilofkarens729]

Thinking about what? I've already forgotten it.

[@SuperVistaprint]

It’s not a story, it’s not a fable, its not a fairytale…it’s just a power trip fantasy, a fan fiction from tumblr back when. A narcissistic injection of plot points into the work of someone else without understanding what made it good. It’s like the kings new clothes…just everyone sees it’s nekkid, everyone too scared to say „it is good, because it HAS to be good…it’s female, and dei and female and gay and female and did I mention female?

[@hugovandyk9918]

Which is why this era of media will be ignored in the general continuity of the respective Fandom's universes.

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

And the Disney tailor ran off with all the money.

[@DeadDingoDan]

You forgot female

[@Fiasco3]

If I plugged the key characters and plot-points in an Ai Writing program the results would have been better even the dialogue.

[@Cpt.McMorpheus]

The power trip was taking over the greatest family oriented community the world has ever seen. 😢

[@olegzhukov8621]

Well I didn't realised a half trained padawan even using the dark side of the force can force-choke a master jedi that easily. That moment could have been written differently and much better

[@haku8135]

In this very episode Sol defeats Smylo 1 on 1, soundly at that. This is the second time he's had him dead to rights. So Sol can defeat a Sith that can toss around and kill a dozen Jedi at once without getting a scratch on him. He can't block Mae from jabbing him casually, despite being on alert and despite her being vastly weaker than Smylo who is weaker than Sol. He also cannot sense her pulling Pip out! Remember when Qui Gon was demonstrating the benefits of the force and he snapped his fingers around Jar Jar's darting tongue, holding it in place? Remember when Star Wars wasn't utter trash?

[@AdonanS]

I think they're trying to say the Force is just that strong in her. Seriously, Sol let that happen...

[@Sauce_Doc]

It’s over! It’s finally over! No more of this insanity ever again! Until they announce season two…

[@jackmesrel4933]

Iirc, they cancelled future seasons of the show, so at least we won't see any more of this shite. A bit of a shame tho, LP and Shad's vids of it have been pure gold

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

Taking all bets on how low the audience score is gonna be for the first episode! Will it break the record of 14% that the first season achieved or will it go EVEN LOWER?

[@garrettviewegh9028]

I’ve heard that Disney canceled it. No surprise. I know they paid billions, but it’s a wonder they haven’t sold Star Wars off to someone else that could do better. All they had to do was adapt the EU!

[@jackmesrel4933]

@@garrettviewegh9028 Well, the good parts of the EU, cus some of the stuff there wasn't that good, tho even the bad stuff showed some passion that made it charming.

[@RaymondSanders-f8c]

fr 😃😃

[@KillerChickn]

I'm convinced the Plageuis scene wasn't in the show at all until it was finished and they were doing press tours and Leslye Headland was asked if/how this show ties into the prequels and Plageuis and Palpatine and she was like "Ooohh that's interesting I dunno..." then went back to the CGI team and said "quick make a 15 second scene showing Plageuis quick!" And they were like, but we haven't decided what the Canon Plagueis is gonna look like or anything! And she goes "well what did he look like before?" And they'll grab James Luceno's Plageuis novel they made non-canon and go look here's a book cover art of the guy, then Leslye goes "OK yeah that just make that exactly and shove in in the last 30 minutes of the 8th episode somewhere quick!"

[@Real11BangBang]

The moment where OSHA hotwired the fortress was what did it for me? I couldn't stop laughing 😂😂😂

[@KoshoShinogi]

Let's not forget that this fortress has been derelict for 16 years and the last time we see it, the reactor blows up. _How_ is it getting any power?

[@kaltaron1284]

@@KoshoShinogi Plot power. Aka lazy writing.

[@thefool8224]

@@KoshoShinogi because of the power of many of course edit(realized later how similar to the "because of the power of the druids" explanation this was"

[@GeneralPotatoSalad]

@@thefool8224 And now I want to see the Mystery of the Druids cover with screamy druid replaced with smoke demon space witch.

@@KoshoShinogi Also the excuse disneyfans are using is the cables caught fire...... Who the fk is making power cables out of flammable materials?! We don't make our power lines and power plants out of dry paper and thermite. So why would super advanced space faring species be so stupid as to do something us dumb war apes have already figured out and ewe havent even left our planet properly. Not only that but if the cables burned.... then how does the power get anywhere?

[@MarkLittle-rq2bq]

The Acolyte: A Dark Side Lust Story where Oshamir travel the galaxy like Natural Born Killers. "Shit, this show is." - Yoda, apparently.

[@aussiegor666]

Even the ferret's motivations flip flopped like a windsock. I think everyone in this show was drunk and high and had no idea what was going on from one minute to another.

[@garrettviewegh9028]

The Acolyte dying: “Was I a good show”? Death: “No. Not even a great one, not even close. You were terribly written, and forgettable. Heck, people will forget about you in a week. Meanwhile, many fans still remember the Clone Wars. Even the EU has better stories”. The Acolyte: “The what-“?

[@KoshoShinogi]

There is a glaring mistake in the fight between Sol and Smilo that I'm actually kind of surprised that Tyranth and Shad overlooked. When they're in the bind and Smilo is using his lightsaber to pull Sol's into his cortosis helmet and short circuit it, question. What's between Smilo's lightsaber and Sol's head?... Nothing! Instead of pulling the lightsabers towards you and Sol resisting, just TURN YOUR BLOODY WRIST and you take Sol's head off! They were gripping each other's forearms, but that would not have restricted Smilo's wrist at all. Plus it's trivial to break a grip like that, as Sol does immediately afterwards.

[@defaultthecritic121]

This show was so bad, Shad invented a new term ‘dead fart’ lol

[@Toliman.]

Bob Iger really does need to take responsibility for the problems of the company. So ... Qimir ended up being Palpatine ? With a Teenage Plagueis. Darth Basil. The mothers both died as Dementors. Seoul, was the last one to be put into a bonfire, and his death is used to hide the myriad of core faults of a woman in power, hired by nepotism. The Jedi "forget" to use the Force whenever there's any danger or conflict. They forget to use the force whenever there is a choice to make, or forget that they are supposed to surrender, egoless and non-finite. The Jedi are overly emotional and dramatic, fall into anger and depression, and are 'bad'. Because.

[@JTFIghter6969]

I had so much fun laughing at the show with everyone on KZbin. Cheers everyone! Glad we can all come together on this. And look how well this show has been ripped to shreds when we’re all working together!

[@DarthEvilicus]

So: They did Sol dirty Venestra is a piece of sh!t Yoda is incompetent Darth Plagueus is Nosferatu

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

1:08:10 They’ve already assassinated Yoda, though I’d forgive you for bleaching the memory of “The Last Jedi” from your brain.

[@haleyschreiter9746]

It sounds like this show turned everyone into a creep - the witches, the Jedi, the twins, and now Plagueis. Clearly the writers stuck to their comfort zone 🙄

[@TheeKrix]

The writing in this show is horrendous. It was never in Oshas character to force choke Master Sol. She never had a hint of evil during the whole series. And when did Osha ever become a badass? The show never shown Osha lift a finger in the series and in one episode she becomes a tenth degree black belt? She couldn’t even use the force to draw Pip to her, where the hell did she get the power to force choke all of a sudden. The only part I enjoyed out of this whole series was when Pip squirted a load all over Oshas face. Other than that, this show made no FN sense. And what the hell did the ending represent? Qimir and Osha are going to make Blackanese babies with biceps and that are going to trip and plant their face into the ground every five minutes?

[@Terbs-24]

I choked on my Cornflakes at that point.

[@neodigremo]

I choose to believe Sol is letting it happen as otherwise it is too stupid for words. Which is stupid for a different reason

[@BunkerAnon]

@@neodigremowe are supposed to believe that the Jedi killed innocent women. The women that turned into smoke demons who tried to attack them and who mind controlled not one but TWO Jedi. This show is a big brand of stupid.

[@C.S.Potter]

@TheeKrix never really had a hint of character tbo

[@eymerich6872]

Yeah i loved the end scene Osha hand in hand with the guy who murdered all her friends her bestie jecki and yord like literally 2 days earlier..:P Also how she never ask about pip at all..like F off pip :P

[@niceguy8491]

What about the literal plot hole? The giant dark force hole in the ground that none of the jedi noticed at the mining base? Did that just disappear over a few years?

[@kaltaron1284]

They were worshipping The Maw? Are they Ogres from Warhammer Fantasy?

[@Vicious0Sephiroth]

I mean, the evil twins forehead tattoo disappeared... I think you are expecting too much logic and consistency from disney.

[@vavan100]

In the End Leslie and Epstein lived happily ever after

[@suenzhong7891]

Not understanding how the Force works, retconning the lifespan of Cereans because of Ki-Adi Mundi, making the Jedi overly emotional and incompetent idiots as well as liars and now breaking the Rule of Two. Congratulations Headland you did what fans thought was impossible; you made a show that's as bad if not worse than the Sequel Trilogy.

[@AlexBrogan96]

This show has plenty of issues, but let’s not pretend like breaking the Rule of Two is one of them. In everybody’s favorite novel Tenebrous has two apprentices. Maul was being trained while Plagueis was still alive. Everybody loves Starkiller. There are plenty of examples of beloved, or at least not problematic times where there were more than two Sith during Bane’s Rule of Two era.

[@suenzhong7891]

@@AlexBrogan96 Why'd you delete your original (and also different) comment? In any case let me reply to this new one. The Rule of Two state that there can only be two Sith at a given time; a Sith Master and Sith Apprentice. Ex-Sith Apprentices are not considered Sith but they can regain the title of being a Sith by somehow convincing their Master to take them back (unlikely) or killing their Master (likely). The latter was done by Darth Zannah who killed Darth Bane and took her intended replacement Darth Cognus as her own Apprentice. Replacement apprentices are unofficial disciples taken either by a Master who wants a new Apprentice or an Apprentice/Ex-Apprentice who is seeking to usurp their Master. They are not considered a true Sith until the one of the existing two Sith is removed. Maul (when Plagueis was alive) and Starkiller were replacement apprentices. Now onto the reason why I feel the show breaks the Rule of Two: the usage of the term Acolyte. Not to be confused with the title Dark Acolyte which was sometime given to Dark Jedi, Acolyte is a Sith rank lower than Apprentice that was used prior to the establishment of the Rule of Two. It was given to Sith who had yet to become an Apprentice but who were recognised to be more than just Dark Jedi. Now, if Qimir told Sol he wanted an Apprentice instead of an Acolyte that would be fine because that indicates he wants to usurp Plagueis and is looking for a replacement apprentice. Qimir used the term Acolyte though which means he wants a junior. Which is just...what??? Am I to seriously believe that Qimir is willing to disregard the Rule of Two because he feels lonely and wants to play senpai? That’s ridiculous. You may argue that my definition of Acolyte is based heavily on EU/Legends lore rather than solely canon but considering how much of EU/Legends content was ripped to be pasted into Disney’s canon (including this very show) I feel that it’s fair to do so. Edit: Spelling

[@AlexBrogan96]

@@suenzhong7891 I didn’t delete any previous comments, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to. I understand all of your analysis here, but there’s still something that I don’t find particularly convincing. Am I meant to believe that Qimir would disregard the Rule of Two? Sure. He does plenty of other things you wouldn’t expect a true Sith to do. Why not one more? He’s clearly reckless. There’s a reason Plagueis eventually replaces him.

[@AlexBrogan96]

@@suenzhong7891 Should also mention we’re assuming Plagueis is the master and this isn’t a situation where Tenebrous is in the background and Qimir is a new version of Venamis. I’m not saying any of this would be good, but we just don’t have enough context to be making claims about this show breaking the lore. It’s far too vague, probably intentionally so.

[@suenzhong7891]

​@@AlexBrogan96 There was an earlier comment which was saying the same things as your current comment only with different examples. It was posted and deleted by a person whose username I can’t fully recall but I know started with Alex. I was under the impression that you were the same person. Apologies for the mistake. What exactly are the things he has done that aren’t expected of a true Sith? Pretending to be someone else/having a false persona and manipulating others to do their bidding is pretty on point for a Sith. Also, arguing that Qimir would break the rules because he’s 'reckless' doesn't make sense because Qimir's not reckless he's cautious. The man was so cautious that he even hid his identity from Mae and only came out of hiding to kill the Jedi in order to ensure that there would be no witnesses regarding his involvement to Mae's murder spree. The reason I believe that the Rule of Two has been broken is based 4 things: my knowledge about the Rule of Two, my knowledge of what the Sith Order was like prior to the Rule of Two, what the show itself has shown the audience thus far, and Headland’s propensity to disregard previously established lore on other matters (eg: Cereans’ lifespans). All the information I have currently is telling me that the Rule of Two has been broken. Maybe in the future there will be information included into season 2 that will prove me wrong (if there is even a season 2) but until that day I see no reason to alter my assumption.

[@mannen659]

I just leave here some quotes from a random book: Mara Jade: "Sure, Luke. Let's just use the Force to magically solve all our problems. That always works." Mara Jade: "Great idea, Luke. Let's split up and make it easier for them to pick us off one by one."

A few of my favorites: Qu Rahn: "Your first test awaits. Kyle, don't give in to hate." Kyle: "Don't give in to… What kind of help is that?" Jan Ors: "What would you do without me, Kyle?" Kyle: "I'd be a content old man." and just for you, a fellow Mara Jade fan. Kyle: "I was deluded too easily. I thought I could control the power. Instead, I lost myself to it. I have failed." Mara: "You haven't failed, Kyle." Kyle: "So now I suppose you're the teacher and I'm the student." Mara: "You should be so lucky."

[@DeadeyePLF]

The lightsaber crystal has visibly burst out of its socket. The blade shouldn't work anymore.

[@GravityFalloutPines]

Hahaha made me LOL with the opening comment - "it's over, I don't think we made it unscathed"

[@ninjaboyo3370]

Super easy, barely an inconvenience lol. Ryan George is with us like the force.

[@ASoberBear]

I like to imagine that Ryan George as a force ghost is right there saying that whenever anything dumb happens in the show

[@talithakoum3922]

I cannot wait for his Acolyte Pitch Meeting sketch 😂

[@snekks7497]

There's the part in Phantom Menace where after ki adi mundi says the sith have been extinct, Yoda gives this look of concern. I guarantee you that's their justification for making him compliant in the cover-up.

[@SkepticViking]

The Acolyte is WORSE than Rings of Power. The writing is literally worse than what your average fourth grader could produce. Not a single character has a consistent motivation!

[@FjongClips]

The Acolyte is really, really bad. But sorry, nothing is worse than Rings of Power. That is a level of itself.

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

The two shows are in a fan fare limbo contest apparently.

[@smpilote]

@@nullface_YT I have seen The Wheel of Time

[@SkepticViking]

@@smpilote Oh no! You reminded me of that abomination. I had managed to eradicate it from my mind!

[@vmonk2]

@@FjongClips At least you kinda know what's going on in ROP, unlike this shite-filled hagus of series

[@Soseman]

I remember when people argued about AI art and someone made a point about the dangers of "AI" learning from human artists, then from other AI arts and in the end we will get the copies of the copies, bland, nonsense stuff. That's how the story and the characters of the Acolyte feel to me. Back in the day people used their life experiences and read as much as they could to make their unique stories, but from generation to generation the quality degraded. With stories like the Rings of Power or Acolyte we are at the point where people writing these have no life experiences, never held a book and at most they watched things in TV/Cinema that they did not understand, but it looked cool so now they are trying to copy them. The whole S1 is full of examples for this.

[@davidwhidden9337]

The two main characters have 0 character.

[@BunkerAnon]

Well I'd they had any character then they'd have to have stronger convictions and not just flip flop every few minutes over their motives.

[@lucymiau5700]

Both are representations for Lesley Headland.

[@DreamsOfLegend]

Can someone please tell me why gopher ALL OF SUDDEN went all SABOTAGE outta nowhere?

[@rayvonvelez3129]

I'm still stuck on this. It made no sense and came out of nowhere. I was literally shouting wtf is going on. This garbage show broke me mentally.

[@VespoLiveGaming]

Worse yet, Sol doesn't even react to it, and just lets the gopher free. The gopher then seamlessly goes back to helping track and find Mae with the other Jedi.

[@WillStopka]

How did the green jedi know she was mind wiped and not just playing dumb?

[@Fledermausmann]

In the end, the greatest mystery was "how the fuck did this get made?"

[@Kompromist]

I will never forget how they gave Mae Alzheimer and branded it as the right thing and an act of kindness.

Says a lot about people okay with that. They are the sort of people who you pray never get mind control powers because they WILL abuse it.

[@DeadDingoDan]

Every episode was written by a different person(s), which is why characters have different motivations each ep. I wouldn't be surprised if each writer got a brief summary of the previous episode from an unpaid intern and then wrote the next episode.

[@theevermind]

But characters have different motives within the same episode.

[@DeadDingoDan]

@theevermind I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if those eps had 2 writers who never conferred with each other

[@blinkusfishus2052]

Thanks for taking the hit for the team lads, your honorable service will not be forgotten.

[@arubial1229]

I just love how they tried to show the Jedi as the bad guys, and it totally blew up in their faces.

[@nachoxaverage]

Also, Smilo wants to find Mae and Sol because they've seen his face. THE ONLY CONSISTENT MOTIVATION THE WHOLE SHOW

[@rampage2587]

Leslye must have went to the Jessica Gao school of destroying a fanbase.

[@sesshomaru1421]

Plagueis is now Gollum from the fellowship. Lurking in the shadows following everyone around. Always watching.

[@connormckeel9564]

I really wish they hadn't done that scene. I'm all for making him cannon but as Obi-wan said, "not like this".

[@nocluedude4406]

Shad : I'm interested to hear what people think... People : Shad, we didn't what this dross, we only watched you suffer...

[@craigjacks588]

So the green-with-envy Jedi master is basically Leslye Headland as a true to form character, and Good Twin (now eviler twin) was proven correct with what she said in ep 7. She is not as "easily corrupted" as her sister...she is even easier to corrupt. And the moral of this crap story is: If you make a huge mistake that hurts others...just blame it on someone else and you are still the good person in the situation. What a great lesson to teach. Definitely not narcissistic or an excuse to deflect criticism at all.

[@kanrakucheese]

Reminder that Waterworld's infamously bloated budget was only 100 million. Even taking as true the claims it had an addition 75 million added to cover repairs after hurricane losses, that's still only 371 million after inflation. Waterworld's crime, which crippled the studio for years, was *only* breaking even on its budget. What does it say about the 180 mil budget this will never make back?

[@darthj90]

Headland stole Mae’s survival from Luke on Bespin. No original ideas 😂

[@northdwarf]

The Director: "Do something and look interesting".

[@skits_3d824]

Why do they... KEEP GETTING WORSE!? I sware they're gaslighting us EACH, and EVERY TIME, we point out problems in one show they add three more problems in the next show that make the last show look better than the current one Take the grand inquisitor entering that one bar looking for a jedi. Then compare it to May's entrance. Sure, the Grand inquisitor looks a bit goofy, but he carries himself AS a VILLIAN. Same for Reva and the fifth brother. They KNOW they're here for a fight. May doesn't give off ANY confidence in her walk other than girl boss or mean girl walk. An assassin should carry themselves like there's always a target on their back. Just waiting for a betrayal. Just like Zam in attack of the clones. This show doesn't carry themselves seriously at all.

[@rdreamspeakerisi3266]

May would have not survived as the sucktion pipe had no power due to her destroying it plus looks like in the last episode the drop length changed, They are tryinfg to copy the sky city but both are there to get rid of rubbish make some sense in sky city but not in this series. Plus they have less advanced elecetronics as we do as surly it should be circuit on a board not a few wires.

[@toodlepop]

i didn't even realize that a show with 8 episodes could be 40 episodes too long.

[@TheWenexx]

I think the writers really do not understand the difference between good and evil. So they can't even do moraly ambiguous characters.

[@ellieb.8137]

LOL I loved the mention of "Super Easy; Barely An Inconvenience" - p.s. I would totally love a reaction video where you and the others watch Pitch meetings -brownie points if you add in other things he might have missed!

[@rsh8057]

This was supposed to show the jedis taking an “L” but in reality no one will consider this Star wars and this is just Disneys “L”"

[@kreese-yi2nb]

The Acolyte writers ultimately proved themselves worthy of being tasked with writing for Disney Doctor Who.

[@wrayday7149]

Senate guy proves that Nebula (because she talks like Nebula) is evil/infiltrator. Had she said that the Sith have come back she would have gotten ALL the resources. After all, this threat is taking out a ton of Jedi. But she tells him that a Jedi has gone rogue........ meaning the Senator should attempt to reign in the Jedi's activities.....

[@Medaumplay3]

Osha is joining the sith so that they can also rip off vader's redemption. The chosen one becoming dark and submitting to the sith lord, and she'll be redeemed by her sister at the end. 100%

Yep and they will even make Mae into a Luke rip off, not a stand in but an outright rip off, probably butcher some ROTJ lines to make it seem like they are creative.

[@Spudnick256]

i love that all the episodes have a title, but the last episode is just called "Episode 8"

[@michomochiii]

I saw that too, I wasn’t sure if it was a mistake or not 😂

[@R.J.Godzilla81]

Yacko: WAIT!!! It’s that time again. Wacko: To make bubbles with our spit? Dot: To contemplate our place in the universe? Yacko: No, review the Acolyte, and to help us do so, we turn to “The Wheel of Stupidity”. Wheel of Stupidity turn turn turn, and tell us the lesson Disney wants us to learn. Lesson #3 and the lesson of today’s episode is: 404 Lesson not Found. Yacko: Huh?

[@phoenixkitchen2452]

Did you hear that Marvel's Echo got an Emmy nomination for Costume Design? 😂😭 I wonder how much Disney paid for that

[@kamenriderkfp6684]

Why was Jedi Master Nepo reporting to and revealing things to the Senate when the only reason she was trying to cover up events from the Jedi High Council was so the information wouldn't get to their political enemies in the Senate You could fill the Grand Canyone with the sheer number of plot and character contrivances in this show

Also why is she above the Jedi Council? They are the ones who are meant to interact with the Senate. This is like having the boss of the mailroom going to talk to potential business partners instead of the CEO and Execs.

[@VespoLiveGaming]

Plageuis is a feral thing in a gimp suit in the back of Quimir's cave.

[@LuluTheDuck33]

Don't you wish you can just Force mind wipe the memory of this show?

[@DavidSteinpreis-qc3sy]

I'd rather use Rake Brain to remove all knowledge of this show and all participants of it from my memories.

[@DirtyDwarfFTW]

There is no way this show wasn't writen by ChatGPT. About twenty years ago my twelve years old sister wrote her own short fantasy story and made me read for feedback. It was as bad as one can expect, but not even remotely comparable to awfulness of Acolite.

[@mryellow6918]

I think shad should do a video writing a Star wars show with chat gbt just to prove it's more sensical

[@Gnarlf]

I don't believe an AI as advanced as ChatGPT could actually write something that bad 😅

[@natediaz1863]

No joke, I think ChatGPT would write something 100x better.

[@shinian6523]

I imagine the showrunners didnt look at anything the witches did as evil. And they are thinking the sith are oppressed and therefore good

[@mariahs283]

I know barely anything about Star Wars only having seen a couple prequels in theatres when I was a teenager. I watch your your videos because I find your breakdowns and rants highly entertaining. That being said my lack of knowledge had me mishearing it as "Virgins of the Force" and now I can't unhear it. Thank you for always making my work days going faster!

[@reavern]

I’m SHOCKED that Shad didn’t take issue with the “reversed lightsaber lock” part of Sol vs. Qamir duel. I thought that was an unbelievably stupid move: Sol and Qamir locked lightsabers and were pushing against each other; then Qamir shifts his blade so it’s BEHIND Sol’s blade and appears to try PULLING Sol’s blade into his Cortosis helmet to disable Sol’s lightsaber, so Qamir can kill him. BUT Qamir had his blade behind Sol’s blade; he’d already gotten past Sol’s defense! All Qamir had to do was swing his blade forward and he would’ve decapitated Sol! OR Qamir could’ve headbutted Sol’s lightsaber blade like he did to one of the random Jedi in episode 5. OR Qamir could’ve pulled out his lightsaber knife from the bottom of the hilt and shanked Sol, like he did to Jecki in episode 5. It would’ve been amazing if Qamir tried that same move, but since Sol witnessed it, he was able to counter it. That would’ve demonstrated how Sol had LEARNED from the previous fight and sorta explained why he was a match for Qamir in this duel. I sincerely hope Shad addresses this because this flawed fight choreography seems so egregious.

[@steveclews]

I am 100% convinced that this whole show was written by AI and tweaked slightly. There can't be a real human trying to tell a story of this low calibre

[@OrsvikEnnin]

This show is too bad to be AI. I’ve experimented with AI and it’s never this inconsistent.

[@steveclews]

@@OrsvikEnnin my 11y/o daughter even thought it sucked

[@pjotrpanzerfaust]

In season 2, who am I supposed to root for? The only remaining characters are three cold-blooded psycho-killers and a corrupt Jedi-Politician without integrity…

[@scotishpatriot]

You forget Darth Plagious. 😉

[@bethanyh1637]

There is a possibility that the writers think Green Mr Clean is telling the events the way she actually thinks they happened. The show has always struggled to match what was suppose to be happening to what they were showing as happening. This could be another screw up.

[@Gnarlf]

How about rootimg fo no season 2?

[@pjotrpanzerfaust]

@@Gnarlf fair enough

[@MrMikellsof88]

My thoughts on why Vernestra is the main go-to Master in this series (in universe) is that she's the head of one of the smaller councils of the Jedi Temple. There are 4 lesser councils, each operating out of one of the four outer spires of the temple, and the High Council which operates from the centre spire. I did and didn't get Plagueis vibes from the cave dweller. Did because I know that's how Disney is going to spin it if for some reason this garbage gets a second season, and didn't because it didn't look much like a Muun. But then I remembered what they did to Pauans in Kenobi and realised that they probably just completely changed the look of the species again. Fuck this show and Disney can go to hell.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

we have avenge you nathan!! **looks at the sky**

[@nicholasdraper4722]

So these people (by which I mean the showrunners) don't understand lightsabers at all. Ignoring all the nonsense about bleeding the crystals, (if they want that to be a thing I don't really care even if i preferred the previous iteration of red being easier to synthesise which showed the impatience of the sith when compared to the jedi), they seem to be unaware that those things need to be ridiculously exact. The reason only jedi use really use them (apart from the fact that force reflexes are basically necessary to stop you from severing your own limbs) is that they need to use the force to align every piece perfectly as the slightest deviation more often than not causes the lightsaber to violently explode. If Sol's lightsaber had been damaged enough that the crystal was poking out, trying to turn it on would have set it off.

[@RevanR]

That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over!

[@terpdx]

I heard rumors that, in season 2, The Acolyte's next non-sensical quest will be to cut down the largest tree in the forest with...a herring!

[@kanrakucheese]

Use the bones for carbon to forge an axe. Makes more sense than anything Iger Disney has made.

[@Talestra7]

It's a trend now, to make evil characters sympathetic, and good characters corrupt. I think you can take any previously existing franchise and see this trend. It's like these people don't believe in goodness, nobility, honor, honesty.

[@FeatherRanching]

So leslye thinks that she and her sister are destined to be opposites. If leslye suddenly turned good, her sister would turn evil to balance it.

[@HunnysPlaylists]

she can't imagine her sister hating her for what she actually is.

[@HunnysPlaylists]

she also cannot imagine genuine Good.

[@lotuschamp7796]

Who gave the OK when presented with this utter crap? How could they just piss away 180 million dollars like this?!

[@AscendantStoic]

Someone who the showrunner has dirt on 😅

[@dragondrakage2402]

Pretty sure someone pocketed the money

[@wesb123]

Dave Phoney signed off on everything 🤠

[@AscendantStoic]

@MundaneThingsBackwards Yeah, It's pretty much an echochamber in Hollywood.

[@deathsdoor07]

Didn't KK say she cried when she show The Acolyte?

[@Jigglysaint]

Imagine loving this show because you are afraid if you criticize it people will call you a bigot.

[@valkyriegremory]

Tbh, there are a ton of questions that will never be answered. Like why did all the jedi die in 1 season yet they could've of made 2 of them live than die at season 2. Next on of the twins could sacrifices them selfs to save sol, what was the motive behind both twins, the list goes on. I miss old shows like dads army or it ain't half hot mum where the character have a story arc to the point it continues to the end. Well imo what a waste of 8 eps we all got, 0 plot, 0 mains, etc. Disney wars the acolyte -666/10. Rip good story writing and redemption arcs etc.

[@ProjectRedfoot]

Could've* as in COULD HAVE made 2 of them live

[@valkyriegremory]

@@ProjectRedfoot ty.

[@izumolee6714]

You know that writers for this show don't even pay attention to previous episodes is how the heck can Osha fix the power to the elevator when the ENTIRE generator that powers the facility exploded! Where is the power coming from?

Also if the fanboys and fangirls excuse for the fire spreading is the power cables burning, even if there was a generator, how would the power get anywhere? Also funny how many lights are still on in that fortress, do these idiots writing this understand how energy works?

[@drewhalcro6082]

Child: *excitedly explains the nonsense dream they had about being a jedi* Kathlene Kenedy: *furiously taking notes* this kid is a goldmine!

[@thomascasey8171]

I am happy to have never watched a singe episode of The Acolyte. Only ever watched you guys talking about it which was way better

[@mryellow6918]

Don't. These make it sound. Not as bad as it is.

[@thomascasey8171]

@@mryellow6918 Oh I am 100% sure it was as bad as they describe it. Did it have lots of wokity wokeness? Do you like the wokeness?

[@wegojinx7053]

How they should have ended the show... Qimir and Osha are walking down a dark Corridor with ominous music playing , they enter a Dimly Lit Chamber with Sith Artifacts all around Qimir drops to his knees Osha is stunned the camera pans up and it's Darth Plagueis addressing Osha saying welcome my new Acolyte

[@IPlayVideoGamesAndNothingElse]

It’s over like a we fart. What are you and tyranth doing together? I get it’s suppose to be wet but it’s still funny to ask.

[@DarkAgeTM]

One thing, that wonders me. Who are those virgins of the Force?

[@Bigbadredg14nt]

Gonna be real with you shad, i didnt watch this. I didnt want to. Rings of power and acolyte have been way more fun to see people react than actually watch this drivel

[@project21f11]

Entirely unearned injection of lore changing / breaking / establishing storylines. The show breaks it's own flow. E7 shows not a single reason the Jedi would be considered the "at-fault" side of that conflict, and E8 creates a false narrative to paint the Jedi as breaking their own rules, and paints Sol as the mastermind ( likely in an attempt to retcon itself for the Mundi gaffe ). In the process the show entirely forgets its own storyline where in the first 5 minutes of the season, Mae destroys an entire bar and kills one of the Jedi. So now Sol, who is declared a suicide ( even though the body was sent afloat and burning on a lake ), is labelled a crazed depraved "flawed man", although universally liked as the strongest character on the show. Mind boggling. The choices and decisions within the production of this show show zero effort to dovetail into canon, and show in more than a few instances a shocking lack of basic desire to do so. Heading up a SW project is not project greenlight. It is not a freshman assignment. This team breaks the trust of the audience supporting SW, and then mocks them in the media. Lucasfilm gave the keys to a Ferrari and a $180mil budget to an unqualified team, who could have easily hired the best writing staff and continutity specialists available, if it wanted to. Instead it chose to color the entire Jedi order as less than what every other creator in the SW universe has done... and it appears to simply be for the shock value of it all. When someone goes out of their way to produce asymmetrical content, the feedback they get is the feedback they earned. Feloni has not done a single interview nor published a single word about this show which intimates that he agrees with, approved, nor oversaw the storylines within this production. He has been conspicuously silent. This production has given rise to a well deserved title - SWINO ( Star Wars in Name Only ). And make no mistake -- they worked very hard and burned through an enormous budget to earn that title. It gives me no pleasure to provide this overview. We all want SW content to be great exercises in world building, character building, and lore building. One look at the SW cosplay community would tell you that SW is as diverse as the SW universe itself. Leave a good thing alone.

[@johannesbowers7467]

🤔"Always two there are, a Master and an Apprentice...." 😎"...and an Acolyte" 😏"...and an Alternate" 🧐"...and an Assistant" 🤪"...and a Second Apprentice" 😁"...and a Secret Apprentice" 💀"... I don't think they know about the Secret Apprentice." 🤔 All of this just to force one of the twins to self-discover [Force Choke] and [Khyber Bleeding].... mmmkay. With [Psychometry] still reading echoes of Events over sixteen years old, Plus all the eyewitness accounts of the initial Jedi murders, (And the mind wiped suspect in custody) Vernestra's Coverup seems to be on extremely weak legs. Mae is a known liability to the Ro2, and must either die or be mind wiped..... so sayeth Darth Smeagol the Wise (Just like Shmi Skywalker's Senate internship alongside Sheev Palpatine and their debauched dalliance was) I still say the helmet's ability to providw [Force Masking] is NOT because it is made of Cortosis, but rather the Sith Alchemy rituals that were used to make it a component of Dark Armor. What it was made for, not what it was made from. [Headdesk]

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I cleaned the cats litter tray earlier and that was better than this show

[@WumboJumbo96]

The bit when Smylo was trying to pull Sol's lightsaber into his helmet to disable it was so dumb because Smylo could've easily just tilted his own lightsaber forward to hit Sol right on the head. I'm surprised you missed that one Shad.