Knocked Off On A Roundabout

[@jackedrussell]

Wearing pajamas ✅ Not wearing shoes ✅ White Nissan Juke ✅ ~07:30 am on a Thursday (assuming the time and date stamp is correct) ✅ There's a really high chance that she is on a school run.

[@apkk5594]

Ashley has mentioned many times about the various motorist groups, Audi drivers, BMW drivers, etc. To my mind, amongst the worst are parents on a school run. It's like they're wearing blinkers

[@smilerbob]

@apkk5594 I’m not that bad…or at least I hope I’m not 😁 But agreed, there is some awful driving from those on the school run. Abandonment wherever it suits them and others can just wait, making a third lane of traffic when there should only be one and not forgetting the pavement is a dedicated school access lane for those with a child in the vehicle

[@phil_d]

Yes, on a school run. If you zoom in on a mobile device at 2:40 you can see a Yr7+ child in the passenger seat and the driver's sun visor down. I'm not sure what else the cyclist could have done. They had passed the mouth of tbe junction and walloped from behind.

[@71calex]

I remember dropping my eldest to creche/preschool on the rear seat on the bike and being stood waiting at pickup times and other parents saying / asking "is it not really dangerous" with my girl on the bike and replied every time " Yes" gesturing to the cars parked at the school "just around here" people throw doors open without looking or pull out doing the same so I have to get off and push the bike on the pavement

[@JurivonStolzenberg14]

School run 😅: I had last week a Nissan Quashqai UNDERTAKING ON PAVEMENT,( me in artic stopped in temporary traffic light queue) , SINGLE YELLOW line on road, 9 am, dropping 2 of her kids off at shool, doing 5 point turn on grass verge beside my truck, between other school kids, and drove back on pavement where she came from. Obese in auto obese vehicle. Poor kids.

[@EastCoastSteam4468]

If the drivers sight was impeded, then she should have stopped before entering the roundabout imho.

[@terryhiggins9700]

You are 100% right, if blinded, Extra care is needed.

[@SGz_Eliminated]

Its a giveway for a reason, driver clearly didn't observe the road was clear, almost guaranteed she was looking further right to see if any cars were coming round and not if anything was between that and infront of her.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Exactly right…stopped and made sure it was clear

[@interpolpirate]

100% - if you cant see how do you know its clear?

[@mctrials23]

Nah, only in the eyes of sane people. In court "sorry, didn't see you" is a perfectly valid defence. Sun was in my eyes, pillar was in the way, came out of nowhere, wasn't wearing reflective clothing. All valid reasons to hit someone with your car. I mean, we can't expect people to drive differently when they can and can't see. That would be crazy right?

[@Scartoons-t1h]

Im not sure what Kyle could've done much differently. Slowed down in case the Nissan came out? But then he wouldve been risking being rear-ended by the driver behind. Maybe steer further from the corner? The driver would've assumed he was turning right. Speed up to avoid the car? He may not have had the fitness. Stay left going around the roundabout? This might encourage a close pass. Honestly, Ashley, what would you suggest he do?

[@douglasreid699]

look for the driver of the Nissan and ask yourself "have i been seen?" and if you think not, adjust speed. its less likely to get rear ended than get hit by the Nissan not seeing. the key thing is to be aware of your surroundings, the sooner the cyclists could spot they had not been seen, the more gradually they could slow to avoid being rear ended. i have been caught in the A pillar blind spot in the past on my motorbike and in my van, i have not been rear ended because i watch the front wheel of vehicles at give ways and if that wheel is still moving it tells me they are not stopping so i can stop sooner and more safely. best bit of advice my dad gave me who was an advanced driving instructor when he was in the army in the 70s.

[@KevinKaneCanada]

I would only coast after I left the stop line and wait for the Nissan to pass. If I get rear-ended, it would be from a car that also just left the stop line so it would be going slow. Given the risk trade off, I'd wait. Have a good one.

[@JdeBP]

Ashley's suggestion is given at 02:46; and at 0:51 we can clearly see that there _was no_ vehicle behind the cyclist who would have rear-ended xem, all of the cars in shot are taking the first exit, as the 4 vehicles preceding them had also.

[@Scartoons-t1h]

​@@douglasreid699I would agree to a degree, however as you slow the car may have seen you and then also slows...and you're almost at a standstill in the middle lane on a busy roundabout with cars about to swing around into you from behind. When Kyle is hit, he has almost cleared the car: he is not obstructed by the A-pillar at that point and the car hits his rear. I think whatever he did he'd have been in trouble.

[@metromadness2016]

He says people need to do this and that, but he never does show his own mistakes he makes while driving.

[@theheathster2]

As a former cyclist and current driver, I’m 100% backing Kyle. The only real way to mitigate the risk here is for her to have never passed her test.

[@goodguykonrad3701]

Just because someone does something insanely dangerous doesn't mean no one else could have done better. Someone blasting through a red light at crossroads is doing something insanely dangerous and they are to blame for any collision they cause with traffic that is meant to be flowing; it doesn't mean you shouldn't still check both ways before proceeding through the junction to check for this. It's very understandable why Kyle missed this, but he could have done better and managed the risk. The whole point of Ashley's channels is to encourage people to continually assess their own use of the roads and try to improve. You can't magically make other people better and lamenting about how bad everyone else is doesn't change anything: the only thing you can change is yourself, so try to be better.

[@NilSatis82]

'And this proves how little attention the cyclist was paying'. Very harsh comment by Ashley on the cyclist here. It doesn't mean they weren't paying attention but that they may have misremembered - easily done by all of us, especially if you've just hit your head after being knocked off your bike! Also, slowing down on a roundabout as a cyclist also brings risks too. In this case, it may well have prevented an accident, but it's not necessarily always the best option for a cyclist and may increase the risk in many cases. Also, it's easy to say that the cyclist should have spotted that they were in the driver's blindspot, but that's easy to say when you zoom in and pause the video. Unfortunately, this cyclist didn't have the same luxury and had other observations to make at the same time.

[@ExtantThylacine]

This is why I think a good camera setup is important: we humans are actually pretty lousy at remembering things.

[@neilmartin3013]

Yep. Ashley Neals analysis is like the equivalent of the ultra slow motion VAR decisions on tackling in football games. Easy to pick apart the cycling in slow motion from the camera view, when you’re looking for one particular aspect of it after the event. Less easy in real life and at full speed

[@lmaoroflcopter]

100% this. Eyewitness testimony is known to be inaccurate. What the. Cyclist likely observed was the slowing down of the Nissan, then he shoulder checks to make sure no one is trying to pull a sneaky merge overtake at the exit. He looks back to the left in time to see a Nissan trying to tuck it up the inside. Good observations on the part of the cyclist, poor driving on the part of the Nissan. Misremembered details on the police report.

[@Tailspin80]

No one’s mentioned it but there were two more cars followed the Juke. If the cyclist slows down to let the Juke out first he’s got the same problem with them. Either keep the speed up or climb off the bike and push it.

[@Jonc25]

Motorists don't want to be hit by a car or truck, then miss what should be at the top of the list.

[@busog97641]

Excellent comment!!!

[@bmused55]

Cyclists don't want to be hit by anything, then ignore red lights. See, I can use an absolute statement that blows a tiny portion of truth out of proportion.

[@Tailspin80]

@@bmused55 Correction. Some cyclists. It’s like saying all car drivers are maniacs just because a few are, and because they are the ones you watch on KZbin. Personally I never jump red lights and cycle much the same way I drive.

[@LeightonHargreaves]

I like to drive barefoot especially for long journeys in the summer. But once I was driving a minibus down the M5 and the battery exploded. We pulled over on the hard shoulder and disembarked but as I jumped down from the driver's seat I landed on an upwards facing screw that penetrated 15mm into my foot. ouch

[@bmused55]

@@Tailspin80 I know that. This is the point of my comment. As the original comment simply says "motorists.."

[@jl-xs6ud]

As a cyclist with over 40 years of experience with all due respect I disagree with Ashley. Realistically the rider couldn't really do anything to prevent this incident. Although a cyclist should always be on their guard for idiots and morons you can't ride scared or submissively or you won't get anywhere. All that happens if you do is you get constantly bullied into the kerb. In this instance, slow down? No. speed up? Probably not. Swerve left? Would still be in the blind spot. Swerve right? Definitely not. The only option left is to not ride in the first place.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

With your 40 years experience please explain why slowing wasn’t an option.

[@jl-xs6ud]

@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I've watched it a couple of times and I don't think Kyle could realistically have anticipated the driver not stopping but camera angles can be deceptive. Was there any traffic behind? For me, I think roundabouts can often put riders in a potentially vulnerable position and sometimes they can be worth avoiding if possible. For what it's worth I've been watching your channels for a while now and I've become a better rider for it. I like what your trying to do

[@blake-gl4wn]

He could have perhaps slowed down. But if she also slowed down it wouldn’t have achieved anything

[@Tailspin80]

@@AshleyNeal-JustCyclingOne reason is that there were two more cars following the Juke into the roundabout or didn’t you notice? Slowing down just gives you the same problem with them but worse.

[@MrWobling]

Nissan Juke Driver wearing no shoes - why am I not surprised?

[@ahdhudbbh]

Is that a bad thing?

[@daveh1294]

Jukes of hazard

[@cammyboy011]

​@@daveh1294underrated comment 😂

[@MrWobling]

@@daveh1294 🤣 that's brilliant!

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

Puke of Hazards

[@purgruv]

Her shoes flew off with the force of the impact. She’s just lucky she didn’t lose her entire feet.

[@michaelgurd7477]

Ashley failed to mention Kyle was running daylight running lights; you can see the white flashing when he's on the deck. So the driver has not only missed seeing a man on a bike, she's also missed the flashing light. Given that Kyle is running a Cycliq camera and looking at their range I would say that both Kyles front and rear cameras had lights built into them.

[@out-backer7875]

And he's wearing a bright orange jacket which would have shown up even more clearly when he moved into the shadow of the bushes. This is 100% on the driver, who should have done so much more to avoid a collision that the footwear (or lack of in this case) is immaterial

[@davem9204]

So probably obscured by the car's A-pillar if he was lit up like Blackpool illuminations?

[@michaelgurd7477]

@@davem9204 Agreed. But good/experienced drivers move their heads to check around the A pillar; I would say madam just gave it a cursory glance through sleepy eyes whilst thinking about going back to her pit.

[@abt833]

As a driver I don't understand people who make assumptions around their blind spots. As a cyclist I always look for eye contact at junctions

[@grahambonner508]

Me too, although it can be difficult at night or with dark window tints. I always want to see the driver looking at me and slowing down. One thing I hate is when the driver starts to accelerate before I've fully cleared from their path.

[@New-ye2fl]

I Can barely see in the windows half the time with the reflection

[@hebijirik]

Our of curiosity: has it happened to you yet that it looked like you clearly have eye contact with the driver and then they continued like you weren't there? I had two accidents that were like that in 2004 and 2005 so I tried to understand what happened. I think in my case the most likely explanation was that they were looking in my direction which from the distance of some 10-15 meters I mistook for eye contact. They were in fact just absent-mindedly "checking" to give way and if I was a car they probably would have noticed but on a bike or motorbike I might as well be transparent. 99% of the time there is car or no car and human brains are very good at simplifying tasks. So unless the driver knows this and thinks about it when checking they have a very high chance to make a mental shortcut from "no car" to "empty road". Once I learned this I started to look for this and it became easier to recognize when they actually see me and when not. But I keept being invisible too often for my taste and even high-vis clothing was not helping all that much. So I started adding more powerfull lights to the bike and later my helmet. So powerfull they have to be dimmed at night to prevent blinding people. But at full power they are strong enough to help even in sunny weather. And now I cannot remember the last time I saw the driver look in my direction and not actually notice me. Either local drivers massively improved somehow or the lighting actually works 🙂.

[@abt833]

@@hebijirik sounds like your idea is good. It has happened before to me. Speedy racers not paying attention. The passengers noticed and panicked but the driver just sped through 😂. Luckily I was continuing to turn so wouldn't be hit. But I have to really stare and see their face react before I trust anything. I can understand about what people say about tints now days. They have got darker then 20 years ago

[@sarahdotcom]

​​@@hebijirikin London they smile and wave as they ignore my right of way

[@robertpatrick3350]

I’m not sure reducing his speed to avoid arriving at the same point would help, a significant reduction in speed on a bike on a roundabout is likely to result in getting hit from behind. Her area with restricted visibility was compounded by the sun visor being fully extended.

[@deanwaller1029]

Exactly, bicycles don't have brake lights. If you're suddenly slowing down, especially in primary position,. you're quite possibly going to get a car in back of you

[@nrosko]

sure but we are looking at this in hindsight, if you are going to argue every cyclist should expect as car to pull out & adjust speed on every roundabout, then every car should also expect this & adjust as well. reality is nobody does & we expect people to stop at a junction. I know Ashley promotes predicting others mistakes, its good advise but its limited in reality.

[@andyp315]

Yeah your a little stuck between a rock and a hard place, On multilane roundabouts a lot of drivers are looking to over/under take out when your on a bike rather than waiting till afterwards. Got a light controlled roundabout on my commute (features in Ash's videos multiple times, good sign...) and have to admit do amber gamble a bit on it even though I wouldn't elsewhere, multilane roundabouts are definitely about as stressful as it gets on a bicycle You do really have to watch approaching the entrances when riding though, You could tell before they weren't stopping. Possibly getting hit from behind beats defiantly getting hit by them though...

[@stevenrix7024]

My question is how to adjust speed on the bike, to match a car that might be going straight onto the roundabout without slowing or slowing a bit for a look around but planning to enter the roundabout without actually stopping. Seems to involve a bit of guesswork and I’m not sure how quickly a bike can accelerate out of trouble.

[@graemethompson3169]

Almost guaranteed that's a school mum situation. Not saying they are all bad but a lot of them are. Totally entitled and also in a world of their own.

[@stevedouglas3975]

Sorry but I don't agree with Ashley on this, I don't see what Kyle could have done. What are we suppoed to do slow down or even stop on every roundabout just in case someone might pull out? What then, get rear ended by another car behind? Also it's an assumption(a reasonable one but still an assumption)that motorist was blinded by sun. If that was the case she shouldn't have proceded onto roundabout as she wouldn't have able to see if road was clear. Yes as cyclists we have to ride defensively especially in certain traffic situations but in this case ENTIRELY motorists fault.

[@sj6019]

I don’t think you have to stop for everyone. Vehicles will give away clues about their intention far earlier than the actual action. In this case the car approached the roundabout at a speed which suggested they weren’t planning on stopping. Car is 100% to blame but there’s always clues if you’re observant enough

[@Pystro]

Why are there so many commenters here who seem to think they shouldn't have to do anything to decrease their own risk, except for one thing: *NEVER EVER slow down even the slightest bit,* or they'll get rear-ended sooner or later. (Or at least it's the second video where I noticed several people making this claim.) What is up with that discrepancy in the perceived level of risk? Or is my perception off? [edit:] I do agree _almost_ 100% on the "entirely the driver's fault" though. The car was already pretty far to the side when it became obvious that she was neither going to stop nor look around her A-pillar. *If* the cyclist _happens_ to look that way _at that point,_ then there would have been something he could have done. But the majority of your focus should be to the front, not on fixing mistakes from drivers that are further towards your rear.

[@SGz_Eliminated]

This video serves as a great example of you don't need to be deliberately driving bad to cause accidents, all it takes is one slip up, not being 100% on the ball 100% of the time and bam you can seriously hurt someone.

[@mattwardman]

I don't understand that, tbh. She deliberately chose not to stop and look when she could not see properly.

[@PedroConejo1939]

That sun is one reason I drop my window when approaching roundabouts and junctions. Even then, I have to be extra careful of vehicles coming out of shadows if I've got full sun in my eyes, especially unlit vehicles. The strobe light on the bike should have been more than enough though. I bet she was still in sleep mode when that happened; some drivers can keep that up all day.

[@kitchencarvings4621]

I always think about the sun riding in the early morning or evening. Even with lights, the sun is so bright that it can obscure your visibility. It does seem like roundabouts are very dangerous for cycling, too.

[@glenn1534]

It's not the roundabouts that are dangerous, it's (some of) the drivers that use them. If the driver couldn't see because of the sun, she should have taken extra care before setting off.

[@kitchencarvings4621]

@@glenn1534 That's true, but I'm also a lot more nervous about roundabouts than I am about normal intersections, even when I'm driving a car. You are right, though, if that driver took a few more seconds to really look and see, it wouldn't have happened. That's the scariest situation for me when I'm on a bike: when someone is waiting to emerge. Do they see me? Should I slow down to make sure?

[@glenn1534]

@@kitchencarvings4621 I agree roundabouts are the scariest part of the road. I only regularly cycle on one roundabout and it's terrifying. But the reason roundabouts are scary is because people are so keen to rush across them, rather than their design. It's the same reason that when the new HC updates came in so many people on forums like this said they'd refuse to give pedestrians the right of way coming off a roundabout - they were saying that people drive too close behind them to stop. If people used roundabouts without the primary goal being to get to their destination as quickly as possible, they'd be a lot safer to use.

[@DrRusty5]

I definitely play the game "Have they seen me" as I ride.

[@emmetb1965]

Me too, a slight reduction in speed versus being on the ground under a car? Hmmmm, let me see! The problem with half of the road users in the UK is they only ever see fault in others... there's always room for improvement no matter how good a cyclist or driver you are.

[@fullthrottle2008]

Me too but as a motorcyclist I have had people pull out whilst apparently looking directly at me ! And then braked when they twigged it was wrong. Something to do with perceived threat maybe?

[@Tailspin80]

I walked my bike across a zebra crossing a few weeks ago. The driver of a large Mercedes kept eye contact all the time as he glided up to me and stopped half way across the crossing with his bumper inches from my front wheel. Some drivers really don’t like bikes.

[@BicycleJason]

A-pillar, A-pillar, A-pillar, A-pillar. Personally I believe drivers moving their heads to take account of this blind spots at junctions should be in the test. Cyclists tend to learn about this issue very quickly.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

A lot of cyclists in this comment section strongly disagree. I think you’re spot on!

[@davem9204]

I get the impression the tests assume driver still have cars with narrow A-pillars, so it wasn't a problem 20+ years ago. It's one of those safety features on cars (i.e extra strength in a collision) that's ended up making cars less safe (i.e. reduced visibility).

[@JustOneQuestion]

Rare incident where police were in the right place at the right time, nice to hear the juke was prosecuted.

[@JdeBP]

Harlow police station happens to be 1200 metres (2 roundabouts) down the road in the direction that the Nissan was coming from. (-:

[@shm5547]

I do hope this was the case. So often the police overlook poor driving when cyclists are on the receiving end of it.

[@andrewthomas2406]

why are you glad she was prosecuted she didnt do it intentionally

[@clickrick]

Nissan Juke? Juke? I always read that as JOKE! Learn something every day. Thanks Ash 👍🏻

[@mylaughinghog]

Kyle was using a forward flashing "see me" light, so I will give him kudos for that. Based on a red reflection on the fender, I think he also had a flashing red rear light. He also was wearing a high vis jacket. Maybe a flashing "see me* light that also throw light sideways would have helped., but I doubt it. Wearing no shoes while driving is better than wearing high heels, work boots, or loose shoes like flip-flops.

[@chrisl1797]

0:48 It looks like a classic A pillar blind spot to me. The point at where the driver is deciding to "go" their head would be behind the A pillar. There is a bollard and two sign supports there too. (Yes, she should have seen him, but it is what it is now.....)

[@dionspot]

pillar blind spot? or could the massive sun visor on the Nissan Juke be the reason?

[@chrisl1797]

@@dionspot probably a combo of both

[@problemchild1976]

What about passing the lead vehicle at a crossing?

[@shm5547]

legal for cyclists

[@letter1014]

@@shm5547 Legal does not equal safe

[@shm5547]

@@letter1014 0:29 what did you think was unsafe? Looked fine to me.

[@problemchild1976]

@@shm5547 the point is if there is a vehicle stopped, someone could cross and you massively increase risk if you are passing that stopped vehicle.

[@problemchild1976]

@@shm5547 can you reference that?

[@tonymc90]

Cycling on roundabouts is one of the most dangerous locations. Try to get eye sight of drivers emerging, but it’s not always possible. Glad he was okay and hope he gets a new bike.

[@rhone81]

She was on her way to the vape shop contemplating what flavour to buy.

[@Benjamin-ej8oz]

Is there anything wrong in driving without shoes? When I had a Ford Ka I'd regularly drive in socked feet because the foot well was too small for my foot to fit besides the clutch in my shoes. I didn't believe it was any hindrance and actually gave me better feel of the pedals.

[@unsafevelocities5687]

Braking. The sole of a shoe can allow most people to press the brake pedal harder in an emergency.

[@ianblackhall]

@@unsafevelocities5687 lol, no

[@unsafevelocities5687]

​@@ianblackhallWhat do you mean, "no"?

[@GodmanchesterGoblin]

​@@ianblackhall​ Yes. The sole of the shoe spreads the pressure over a larger area of the sole of the foot, so it's possible to apply far greater pressure with good footware than without.

[@davestokes3446]

​@GodmanchesterGoblin Somehow this reduces the strength of your muscles?

[@robg521]

2:50. Can you see the driver? Spot on. When on my motor bike I always try to make eye contact with the other driver in the situation. It eliminates the ‘I didn’t see you’ scenario. Their reaction to the eye contact is usually to slow and give way and filter behind me.

[@OddGamerCA]

I’ve never thought about it before but I’m surprised it’s not illegal to drive barefoot

[@HarryOld972]

The Highway code says you must have footwear and clothing which "does not prevent you using the controls in the correct manner" and driving barefoot fails that test. You get prosecuted for driving without due care and attention. Quite right too, had she been wearing shoes, more effective braking would likely have avoided collision.

[@ianblackhall]

@@HarryOld972 no it doesn't

[@HarryOld972]

@@ianblackhall Section 97, 2nd bullet point. Look it up.

[@dutchhondarebel]

Better than slippers.

[@ArminGrewe]

@@dutchhondarebel slippers are quite likely going to be considered unsafe/inappropriate. Similarly high stiletto heels. There are articles in online media about appropriate footwear and related fines quite regularly. Same applies to clothing, wide trousers or long skirts which can caught in the pedals, that kind of stuff. Can all get you into trouble.

[@Zeyr01]

I can't see but let's continue traveling into this roundabout. I turn now, good luck everybody!

[@HairyStuntWaffle]

except he would not have been in the blind spot for more than a second. she had him in view after that point but was clearly not paying attention. probably looking right rather than where she was going.

[@horsenuts1831]

How could she possibly be expected to see him while she was checking her Facebook profile?

[@cgisme]

I can’t fathom out why no shoes is an issue. Total feel and precise location of the foot not like heels, sliders or massive boots.

[@Hurc7495]

the pedles of a car would be quite uncomfortable without shoes, if you needed to stamp on the brake it would be outright painfull. perhaps she didnt hit the brake hard enough for exactly that reason!

[@stepheneaston8354]

Gosh, your analysis is next level and super helpful for cyclists like me. I nearly got hit at the Scilly Isles Roundabout in Esher on Friday morning. A car started to pull out when I was on the roundabout. Luckily, I saw him and braked. Even more luckily, he braked just in time too so we avoided a crash. But this stuff can happen so easily. I try my best to check if drivers are looking in my direction when I am approaching roundabouts and junctions but have never thought too much about shadows. Will try to do that now…..

[@iaamnew2060]

This exact thing happened to me about a year ago albeit at a greater angle guy just drove into me as I was exiting Now I just don't go onto that roundabout as it's one where people drove really quick

[@Dagger2311]

Hi Ashley. There is a vid on my channel of myself being hit by a car. The Police took no action against the other party..yet the driver here was prosecuted. I would be interested in your thoughts if you see this

[@MrWobling]

There’s a lack of consistency for sure

[@MrTypo-kc6ib]

More culpable in your video with a clear view ahead. Not excusing blind spot faults. Terrible by the police. Not enough evidence from the camera. No shot of the reg. Glad you are OK.

[@Dagger2311]

​@MrTypo-kc6ib police attended. All his details were taken but they took no action. I was off work for months but am OK now, thank you

[@josephmarsh8235]

You can always send your video to Ashley and ask him by email for his thoughts and do a review. 👍

[@goodyeoman4534]

In my experience, the police are VERY inconsistent with prosecuting driving offenses. I've had a car try to ram me off the road and then stop and try and get out - "no further action."

[@chrisl1797]

But for the grace of....etc. (it is so easy a mistake to make).....I nearly ran someone over in the work depot a few months back. I was turning out of the bays and then turning again to exit the yard (basically 2 right turns 180deg). They exited the depot exit door and walked across the zebra crossing and somehow my speed and their speed kept a full sized adult hidden completely behind 2 inches of plastic for about 3 seconds and a good five metres. The first I knew of it was when they "appeared" to the **right** hand side of my drivers door mirror.

[@AlanMacdonald-on6nd]

No blame on Kyle he was probably checking more to his right side or where he was going, barefoot driver could have had a small stone in the brake pedal and jabbed her foot, unlikely i know now the Juke itself, having driven all midels except the new model the angle and thickness of the A pillar is very bad and causes a massive blind spot it is a despicable car and driver should be aware of this .A careless driving charge at least

[@mikefury7711]

I’m a cyclist, I’ve also been hit by a car whilst on my bike 😢( Melling Road) I’ve always driven Nissan’s as well , and they’re notorious for having wide aframes! , so I’m always checking when approaching junctions when driving. I also try to make eye contact with drivers in these situations whilst out cycling basically staring into their eyes.

[@mikefury7711]

Also from experience I don’t think the police will prosecute, at best it will be a driving awareness course.

[@sebastien79a]

Tough one. I'm not sure I would have expected this.. I didn't look at the angle of the sun.. I'm not sure about the A pillar - it's hard to sometimes judge what you would have done based on a video. However if the sun was in my face as a driver, I would definitely be edging forward and moving around to see better.

[@edingtonvilleonsea]

What do zigzag lines mean "The approach to, and exit from, a pedestrian crossing is marked with zigzag lines. It also means that you must not park on them or overtake the leading vehicle when approaching the crossing." To quote the Highway Code.

[@screally1152]

​@@Tailspin80There are some places where you cannot filter; this includes crossing a solid white line, which includes hatched areas with a solid line. Additionally, you should not filter past a moving or stationary vehicle closest to a crossing. He shouldn't have overtaken the car just before the crossing even though it was a green light for traffic

[@funkycowie]

​@@screally1152 Ageeed

[@george-ev1dq]

The lead vehicle that has stopped at the roundabout, the lead vehicle had not stopped. " 191 You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians. Laws ZPPPCRGD regs 18, 20 & 24, RTRA sect 25(5) & TSRGD regs 10, 27 & 282 "

[@george-ev1dq]

@@Tailspin80 Not relevant at all, I never made the OP

[@george-ev1dq]

@@Tailspin80 maybe best if you keep to the subject on hand namely the OP

[@davidvanderklauw]

I usually remove shoes and drive with socks on. This gives me better feel of the pedals. Racing drivers wear soft leather shoes which are like fireproof socks. Driving shoeless gives better control over the pedals. The only problem I can see is exiting the car in an emergency.

[@lmaoroflcopter]

Its less of an issue on newer cars with AEB. The system will apply additional braking force if it believes you're not applying enough. Whilst race car drivers have indeed raced in soft soled shoes, your typical mum on a school run isn't a race car driver, and is unlikely to have experience of applying full braking force using their bare feet and when it comes time to do so, will be unable to.

[@alanjewell9550]

As a motorist & a cyclist, whenever there's a low sun shining directly into anyone's face, my thought is they're going to be significantly impaired so i take extra care to avoid any possible conflict of space. Regarding the bare feet, I drive bare foot a lot of the time. I drive at my best this way. I can feel the pedals better, I feel more relaxed & present with cool feet (I hate hot feet!) so my attention is better, & I probably drive a bit slower. I've had this debate about the legalities but not found anything other than being in proper control of the vehicle. I've heard stuff about not being able to press the pedals hard enough etc. I'm driving a modern power assisted vehicle, not a WW1 tank! When I first started driving lessons way back when, I struggled a bit with clutch control, until I realised the problem was the bungy trainers I was wearing. Immediately improved when I wore thinner soles footwear. And no foot wear is even better still.

[@b3108]

With sunglare, I usually turn on headlights to give other drivers the best possible chance to see my car. Bit tricker for cyclists: would front and rear headlights have helped adequately? I’m not so sure.

[@Sankara561]

Kyle spoke for all of us in the aftermath there. Interesting points about the A pillar and shaded area though

[@mini-_]

If you get struck by a car when you are moving at a sensible speed in a good position wearing a bright orange jacket, that really shows the failure of the road infrastructure and driving training. Shame on the driver of that Juke.

[@maringarvanovic8011]

Hold on. Am I seeing this right?. 02:30. Her sun blind is bloody enormous and clearly not the standard one fitted on the car. It is covering over half the height of the windscreen.

[@RushfanUK]

It’s not illegal to drive barefoot but it is advised against along with high heels, flip flops and heavy boots, you could be prosecuted for not being in control of the vehicle.

[@theyouofyesterday6254]

Years ago my partner and I were knocked off our motorbike in a similar situation. The driver said 'the sun was in my eyes and I couldn't see, so I just kept going'. 🙄 Luckily neither of us was injured but the bike was a write-off.

[@charliegould5865]

Rule 97 of the Highway Code, drivers should make sure “clothing and footwear do not prevent you using the controls in the correct manner." Failure to do so can result in fines or a penalty. Driving barefoot isn’t illegal, but it’s also not advised. It’s not illegal to drive barefoot, just not advised, driving in unsuitable footwear such as big clumpy boots, high heels or any footwear that restricts ankle movement can result in a driving without due care and attention prosecution.

[@moretimeneeded56]

0:48 Was the driver just staring at the end of her bonnet? On approach should be looking out her side window to the right to see who was coming round as well as to the front. So had she even seen him before getting to the roundabout?

[@cloudmaker]

No shoes as she's rushed out still in her pyjamas by the looks of it.

[@wolfie854]

Not wearing shoes while driving is commoner than you might think. I was once driven through the centre of Paris at top speed in heavy traffic in a 2CV by a woman driving barefoot. It was scary - but that was just the Paris traffic I think.😃

[@tin2001]

Yep. I often take my shoes off in summer if I'm driving more than a short trip. And obviously also if I'm wearing footwear that isn't firmly attached. Broken shoes, sandals, thongs/flipflops, etc.

[@Kieran.Robertson]

More common*

[@paddymurphy-oconnor8255]

I know of a woman who was killed by an elderly driver who said he didn't see her at a big roundabout because of the sun. I know the roundabout. I am a cyclist myself. It's dangerous for us on the roads because of the people using cars carelessly.

[@yeomancam8746]

My aunt used to drive artics without shoes.

[@ArodWinterbornSteed]

Once your feet have strengthened up it is way more comfortable to drive unshod

[@JakobusVdL]

​@@ArodWinterbornSteed, but its still illegal....... edit - it turns out not illegal, just bad practice.

[@ArodWinterbornSteed]

@@JakobusVdL aww, good guess

[@larry365]

​@@JakobusVdLWhy would it be illegal? You cannot just make laws up; they're written down you know.. Driving barefoot is perfectly legal and safe. Many long distance drivers drive barefoot.

[@JakobusVdL]

@@larry365 I've learned that you are correct, its not illegal, just bad practice. Every day's a school day. Why 'might' it be illegal? It can impair your control of the vehicle, particularly if you have to brake hard, are managing a heavy clutch in traffic. or your feet get wet or sweaty. People have been convicted where they have been involved in an accident, and it turns out being barefoot, or wearing 'inappropriate' footware, and has been a factor leading to the accident.

[@geordiegeorge9041]

Here where I live he would have gotten compensation for injuries. And because he was on his way to work the works insurance would have covered him, and claimed it back from the vehicle insurance. But I don't live in the UK.

[@DemiGod..]

First time I saw thuis, assumed it was a car from behind him on his left. He started on the far right and moved to the left which made me think that he driven into a vehicle on his left. In actual fact , he was hit by a vehicle from a junction ahead on the left.

[@IvanAllanmildmanneratheist]

I was nearly hit by a car when I was directly in front of them, it was nighttime, and I had hi-vis pants and a jacket on with bright lights front and back. Just like in the clip I thing the driver was too busy looking to their right for a gap they quickly forgot about what's in front of them. I was lucky as the driver started to look ahead as they tried to get on the roundabout.

[@MrTypo-kc6ib]

Have you seen the Finchampstead Pedestrian crossing/roundabout?

[@symonlibera7011]

I had an accident recently in Germany, nobodys fault, i was going past tram tracks (not paralel to them) and lost balance and fell of quite badly, had to go to hospital and have an operation, i still have my wrist in a cast and my hand still is recovering, not to mention i have a bloody plate in me arm. I know how it is to have your whip damaged, had the same two years ago when woman rear ended me when i was waiting to emerge onto a roundabout in UK (she did not pay back a penny). Point is, im glad you're okay, be gratefull mate, keep on "shreddin" and stay safe, plenty of morons out there operating dangerous machinery. Stay safe everybody.

[@mikeroberts]

A couple of points: All good observations by Ashley but I've read through the comments and haven't seen any mention of the size of the Juke's sun visor that is down. It looks enormous. Is this some sort of aftermarket add on? Also I didn't see anyone pick up on the cyclist overtaking the last vehicle at a pedestrian crossing.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

Why do you think the sun visor would be a problem?

[@mikeroberts]

@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling If you look at your freeze frame you'll see it comes nearly half way down the window! Even allowing for a short driver the forward vision will be like looking through a letter box and also increase the A pillar effect.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

It depends on how tall the driver was. Who uses a sun visor to block their view of the road. Unlikely to be a problem, that’s why I didn’t mention it 👍

[@mikeroberts]

@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling " Who uses a sun visor to block their view of the road?", the same sort of person who thinks driving barefoot is OK, or those who have a SatNag on the windscreen in front of them, or those who watch video while driving! 😉😀

[@george-ev1dq]

It is not an offence to overtake the lead vehicle at a crossing when it is moving.

[@grahamnutt8958]

Although not MANDATORY; the "driver" should've slowed down more *or stopped* at the Give Way markings. This would have allowed enough time to properly assess that a 🚴 was coming through. Granted; better observation from @Kyle might also have made this a non event but I definitely put this one on 🚘. Stay safe out there.

[@JdeBP]

Amusingly, the Give Way sign for that entrance to the roundabout (visible at 0:48) is facing the wrong way. Zero cheers for highway maintenance in Harlow! (-:

[@xTerminatorAndy]

what's wrong with driving without shoes? I sometimes do it on long journeys, especially on cars that don't have cruise control

[@JdeBP]

It's a sad indictment of the non-joined-up state of English cycling infrastructure that taking that cycle path off Tilwick's road (visible in the video at 0:33) and crossing the A1025 onto another cycle path on Howard Way isn't an option, because Howard Way simply doesn't have a cycle path past the Harlow rugby club grounds. Cyclists are presumably expected to cycle out of their way west or east on the A1025, and cross on the underpasses at either Manston Road or Latton Street.

[@ExtantThylacine]

This is my argument exactly. Even the copper told me that Harlow is good for cycling because of its cycle tracks. It's really not: the metric people seem to use to determine if a town is good for cycling is the total length of cycle infrastructure, not how useful it actually is.

[@smilerbob]

I would say the A pillar was more of an issue than the sun in this instance, possibly all of the issue, and is a huge problem in more way than one Firstly, the safety aspect the pillar provides means the blind spot they produce is larger than when some learned to drive. Secondly, very few drivers move their head around the pillar at junctions or even driving in general and lastly, they provide the perfect hiding spot for anything that is travelling at the same effective speed as the pillar “moves” (closely linked to point two) No excuses from the driver and grade U for causing a collision. Even though I don’t ride anymore I had the same philosophy as I do in the car and that is to check drivers approaching the entry points as I am still traversing the roundabout. It might annoy some that I might slow slightly but a roundabout isn’t a race track and to be honest, I don’t trust anyone to use them properly. That is joining, exiting or just generally going around them

[@chrisl1797]

Tillwicks Rd, Harlow CM18 6DN A1025 junction.... 0:33.... there is a cycle path there to the left. Plus the road sign is in the wrong place too.

[@tin2001]

I got reversed into on my bike a few weeks ago at some temporary lights.... "You were in my blind spot", she says. Except I'd been looking at her face looking out the rear window 5 seconds prior. And her car was a newer model with the fancy all around 360 camera system. Some people just have their eyeballs painted on, I think.

[@Kieran.Robertson]

“She”. Sums it up

[@steamhammer2k]

The white car has one heck of a blind spot in that large piller, huge mirror, big sun visor. I would never ride a bike around a junction like that, I like living so i would have used the pavment like many riders do. The answer to why she was not wearing shoes is she has just painted her nails it`s something a VERY experienced driver`s sees all the time LOL.

[@bikertime1]

Actually the pavement is much more dangerous. Harder to be seen, need to cross more traffic lanes, and would take forever.

[@steamhammer2k]

@@bikertime1 Sorry i should have said that i would not ride on the pavement It`s not there for bikes.

[@george-ev1dq]

Never seen a pavement going around a roundabout in my life, you must have strange roundabouts in your neck of the woods.

[@samhoward3138]

There is a simple answer If you knock someone off their bike or knock a pedestrian down your lisence is revoked for a year unless it can be conclusively proven you weren’t at fault through hard evidence If drivers aren’t held accountable then much worse things happen than the KZbin friendly videos Ashley is allowed to post on here

[@simonwatson2399]

I don't see what he should do differently. My only niggle is his position entering the roundabout. I'd not have passed the last car he did on approach and would have taken primary position behind it. Slowing on the roundabout is a bad idea, it's unexpected. Everyone finds it harder to deal with the unexpected. If the white car had been closer to the give way line then avoiding the potential accident becomes the priority. Here's what I think happened. The driver has looked to their right and seen the Silver and Blue cars turning left so knows there's a space on the roundabout for her to pull out into. It's never occurred to look in front where they're actually going to see if that is clear. The A-pillar may have been an issue initially but once you commit to your entry maneuver eyes should be looking where you're going.

[@funkycowie]

I have not watched all this yet but the start is very familiar to me as I live in that town, Harlow in Essex. Edit: ok so having watched this, the standard of driving in Harlow is terrible so what happened at that roundabout does not surpise me as people frequently enter too soon and/or often give missleading indication of their intention. Yes the car driver is at fault, but the cyclist surely should have not crossed the pedestrian crossing even though it is green as cars are all stationary. Also although he was wearing a hiviz, if he uses the road regularly he should be aware poeple don't look well and could have positioned himself better to be seen.

[@alicat749]

Saw that one coming. If you don't get eye contact from the driver, i've stopped at the kerb on the roundabout before and waited for a gap to pull away again across the traffic joining the roundabout. You have to be 100% they saw you and even if they had 100% they wont just pull out anyway.

[@Gopher31]

Impact seemed to happen a little while after the cyclist went past the front of the car. I really don’t see how she didn’t see him.

[@JdeBP]

Almost certainly the Nissan driver was looking right whilst driving left at that point, thinking that the road was clear since all of the car traffic (which the A pillar and sunvisor wouldn't have hidden, unlike the cyclist) was exiting onto the A1025. There's probably a learned inference, if this really is someone on a regular school run, that few people take the Howard Way exit at that time of day, also in play.

[@syrus3k]

I cycle lots. *always* make eye contact with the driver entering the roundabout. Be ready for anything.

[@solidairs]

Can’t see - don’t go. Also, the rider’s attention was probably correctly focussed on his path of travel and not on the view the offending driver had even though he was probably well aware of the vehicle’s approach. Always interesting videos and hopefully learning points.

[@stephendavis1216]

How has Ashley also not commented on the lowered sun visor. It is as low as it can be further reducing her vision. The a-pillar reducimg vision I have never quite understood, but maybe thats because I'm 6'3" so am further back in the car and have to look through the side window to look sideways and can't try to look sideways through the windscreen🤷‍♂️

[@unsafevelocities5687]

I don't understand either of your points, I'm afraid. Unless you're expecting a flying Delorean, not being able to see the sky doesn't restrict vision. As long as the visor is not blocking any part of the road ahead it's not a factor. This is not easily verifiable by third-parties as only really the driver knows if it's too low -- I'd go as far as to say it's impossible to tell that from the video. On your second point, your height is irrelevant to the A-pillar blindspot. You also have a blindspot there! It may be further towards the front of the vehicle, but you still can't see through metal. Road junctions at certain angles will be entirely blocked and it sounds as if you should be doing more to see around the A-pillar.

[@stephendavis1216]

@@unsafevelocities5687 @unsafevelocities5687 So what I mean by the a-pillar in all the cars I have driven are not in the way for seeing the vehicles coming around a roundabout. I would have to be looking essentially straight ahead for it to block my view. At certain junctions yes it may be in the way but it is your responsibility as a driver to look around it and slow down for it. With the sun visor if I had it all the way down I wouldn't be able to see far enough ahead to be able to see a safe distance. This is all down to angles is my point that it is impossible to tell what exactly what extent these did or did not impact the driver of the juke. Therefore slowing down enough at junctions to be able to stop and looking fully are the things that are the take away and if there are things that are impacting that then you should take these mitigating action to avoid these being a possibility. As a cyclist I have never been hit on a roundabout but have had to take avoiding action often like Ashley says to be coming to roundabout at a differing time to those entering it and being aware of what is around to try and avoid a collision because it is the last thing I want.

[@nickdawson9270]

There is no law (yet) that prescribes footwear so let’s put that aside. What could Carl do differently? Avoid roundabouts maybe? Certainly as AN suggests exercise extreme caution especially given the adverse light and deep shadows. The Dutch have upgraded their urban roundabouts. We’re broke so have to put up with substandard roads.

[@steve3291]

Kyle should ditch the bike and get a double decker bus painted in hi-viz. Maybe, just maybe, the Juke driver would have seen him. No guarantees though.

[@mattwardman]

The most notable thing for me here is that the driver did not even stop to look properly before entering the island, despite knowing that she could not see properly.. It's time we redesigned roundabouts like this one for safety, not throughput, with right angle approaches not tangential - the latter encourages such behaviour.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

Do you expect and think people should stop to look properly at roundabouts?

[@mattwardman]

​@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Cheers for the reply, Ashley. That's a question with lots of layers here ! I hope you'll forgive me a long reply. As a basic people, including me, should look properly. And if we need to stop to do that hen yes, we should shop; that is driving to the conditions. If we can do it just by slowing down if there are decent sightlines, then we should do *that*. Here, there weren't decent sightlines (A pillar, dazzling by the sun) so (as you say) head movement was necessary - and the dazzling sun may require stopping to look. Imo we have a strange thing about driving in to areas we cannot see where hazards may exist - most of us just keep on going. We see that at eg a) zebras in lane 2 where lane 1 is stationary or obstructed, b) going past a bus at speed on the LHS (the delivery rider Cycling Mikey swore at in your recent vid) - imo max sensible speed would have been walking pace if the red light was not there, and c) driving into the low sun. An example of a collision caused by the latter was the one that killed Councillor Paul James in in 2019 on the A487 near Aberystwyth. The person who took him out was just continuing at A-road speeds into a winter setting sun, and argued that doing so was not careless. That is, not being able to see was a mitigating factor not something that should have influenced the driving. I can point to a parade of such cases. We know that roundabouts and junctions are places where collisions happen more often, so I think speeds through roundabouts should be slower by default. I'm a fan of designing out risk. On safety, I think that the scale of safe to less safe using pedestrians crossing as an example is separation physically (footbridge or separate footpath network), separation in time (pelican crossing), separation by ingrained routine (Zebra), separation by observation and behaviour (uncontrolled crossing). Where we can move up that safety scale practically, we should do so. This roundabout relies entirely on the last, and I think that Kyle's basic approach is as good as could be expected on that layout - for example on filtering on the right when most of the queue are going left, which manages the significant risk of a rear-ender from a vehicle who's driver "assumed he had gone". We have background pressures the other way. Eg In our planning system junctions and road improvements are paid for by developers, and the test for whether it is needed is based on capacity, not safety. Developers want least cost to maximise profit, so the pressure is for the cheapest, simplest, highest throughout junction. So we get high speed roundabouts with all the modes mixed up on the same carriageway with no lanes painted to guide behaviour - as we see here. Plus our road design policies are still based on a 1960s or 1970s analysis and values, which do not give equality to pedestrians, wheelers, cyclists - which is required by law; changing that assumption will take some time 🙂. Back to this roundabout. The direction Kyle is approaching from actually has an increased speed limit (40) going INTO the roundabout (0:37) - which says "you can speed up here". Imo, at least, the speed limit on the roundabout should be set to 30 (or 20!), so that traffic coming in at 40 on the other road slows down and has a more time to see better. A better approach is to change the physical design such that it says "slow down" subliminally to the traffic. That is what more orthogonal, less tangential, entries are about, to me. In NL they would often also have the drainage round the outside, to give adverse camber - to give an environment encouraging safer speeds. To design out risk here, I think I would suggest separated mobility tracks on the road Kyle approaches on. and separate pedestrian and mobility tracks around the outside, with signallised (possibly part time or with a request button) parallel crossings, and a 30mph zone for 200m in all directions. There is also imo a case for a different physical layout of the carriageway, perhaps even a full spiral ("turbo") roundabout (depending on traffic level). That all of course has cost and policy and political implications; I'm willing to pay my part of any extra. (I'm preparing a submission for the coming Govt Road Safety Review, so I'm trying to think about these questions at present).

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

It’s a slippery slope Matt if you design out the need to observe for any road users.

[@adinigel]

So easy to comment with the benefit of hindsight but... Cyclist was exiting the rat and moving to the left...left 'lifesaver' required.

[@PaulW-i6n]

Get a grip on the A-pillar fixation. If a cyclist manages to shut out all the close passes, pot holes, pedestrians stepping out, scooters, etc, they might just, just be able to concentrate on where every driver's head is in relation to this 3-inch bit of material

[@dionspot]

Goodness gracious! Could the cyclist see the driver? No. Could the driver see the cyclist? No. Could the massive sun visor on the Nissan Juke be the reason? Could she stop in time? No. Could it be because she wasn’t wearing any shoes?

[@iamjoestafford]

I love your videos Ashley, and I have become a much better driver through watching them, but I do raise an eyebrow at your cycling opinions sometimes. In this clip, the driver who didn't give way is entirely at fault (the A pillar or the sun being in their eyes isn't an excuse - if they couldn't see properly they should have stopped or at least slowed down much more), and other than not using that roundabout in the first place, I'm really not sure what the cyclist could have done differently in the split second when it became clear the car wasn't going to stop. It's simply not possible to negotiate major roundabouts of that size and speed - whether in a car or on a bike - in a way that makes it possible to take last-second avoiding action if other people don't give way...there is always a degree of trust involved that they will stop as they should. When you say you hope people can learn from the clip so this doesn't happen to them, what do you suggest they do when in similar situations? You can't really rely on eye contact when the cars are moving so quickly, and as another commenter said, taking roundabouts at a snail's pace would put the cyclist in even more danger.

[@kenbrown2808]

you are mistaking the difference between at-fault for liability purposes, and contribution to accident, in the sense of, is there anything that could have been done differently. the motorist is at fault for liability purposes, but there is a multitude of options the cyclist could have taken. if you are restricting it to just things he could have done after the car failed to stop, there is always making another lap around the roundabout. but he could also have changed to secondary position to get himself more clearly in her line of sight; which is what I would probably have done, regardless. granted, then you have to be more attentive to whether the car is stopping, as well, but the bottom line is; we look at these and say "what could he have done differently" because it may happen to us, and it gives us a chance to at least make an attempt at self preservation.

[@glenn1534]

@@kenbrown2808 If you ride in secondary, even on a roundabout, some drivers try to overtake in the same lane. So this could have been the exact same clip with the cyclist taking secondary position, not getting hit by the driver, but getting close-passed by someone else. Sometimes there isn't something that can be done differently without another danger increasing in probability.

[@markthorpe1528]

Agree with you to a point Ashley,but it was not the cyclists job to look out for the white car,it should not of pulled out.The sun is not an excuse also.Wear suitable driving/sunglasses.The amount of people who don't,and rely on a sunvisor amazes me.

[@rcflyer158]

When I was learning to drive, another learner drove without shoes!

[@Mike_5]

Some drivers have different Life Goals to other people and the Nissan Joke seems to welcome them to the Party

[@mojohngrandparents1295]

Is overtaking on zigzags ok?

[@Tailspin80]

Possibly not, but not relevant to the accident.

[@roylec]

Great analysis again Ashley. With more than 30 yrs of driving it’s amazing how I learn something new whenever i watch these. I would not have considered the sun in this situation, so I totally get what you mean about contribution. Thanks

[@Tailspin80]

What??? So the cyclist should have figured the sun thing out and assumed pyjama woman was brain dead. Ok. Got it.

[@paulsengupta971]

The cyclist positioned on the right hand side, joining the roundabout. From there it might be expected he would turn right. If you're going to position to the right then cut across the lanes to go straight on, you should check to see if your way off the roundabout is clear. That should be the same whether you're on a bike or in a car...going straight on from the right hand lane, check your exit, the lane you're cutting across, is clear.

[@46rrodriguez]

she didn't see him front of her how do you expect she would spot his position while he was joining the roundabound smh. Never assume rather expect the unexpected. There wasnt nothing wrong with his positioning the lanes are marked and he was clearly heading straight. Distracted driver didnt observe end of

[@paulsengupta971]

@@46rrodriguez I'm not talking about what she did, I'm talking about what he did. If a car from the right hand lane of a roundabout cuts across the left lane to take the exit they should make sure the left lane is clear. No difference with cyclists.

[@46rrodriguez]

@@paulsengupta971 he wasnt in right lane he was in the middle thats the difference. Also the left lane was clear what are you all about. You have to give way to all vehicles in the roundabout no matter the lane or you end up in the collision like this

[@konradabel2353]

By the look of it she didn't slow down at all (which, if you're coming up to a roundabout with traffic on it is more than a bit daft), so if she was going to go regardless of what she was supposed to slow down and stop for, it's no wonder she would hit whomever was in front of her. Couple that with being blinded by the sun, she's lucky it wasn't anything bigger than a bike.

[@ExtantThylacine]

Ashley's right about me not paying enough attention: I didn't spot the fact she wasn't wearing any shoes. As you were wondering about the outcome, Ashley, I've had an initial offer from the other party's insurance, but as I've been suffering with pain in my foot I'm awaiting an orthopaedic assesment so they can value my claim. Thankfully, my foot is starting to feel back to normal and being the injury was to the heel of my foot it hasn't prevented me from cycling. I now have a nice new ebike on the cycle-to-work scheme, and the red Civic Type R you can see at the start of the video was mine, but I sold it shortly after this incident and I'm now living car-free (yes, I do miss the car, but I'm really enjoying not being car-dependent).

[@PavelSavyhin]

Have you sold the car intentionally? I have car and the bicycles and even counting kilometers I ride bike more than a car. So, I'm wondering what was the reason of selling car and how do you plan to deal with the cold weather at winter

[@ExtantThylacine]

There are a few reasons as to why I sold my car. The big one is I was in the process of buying my flat and the extra money has left me comfortable so as not to struggle. Because I cycle pretty much everywhere, the car just wasn't getting used and it was just too nice of a car to keep paying to maintain not doing anything. I've been cycling ever since I got a job closer to home, and I'd never go back to commuting by car. This means I cycle in all weather. In other countries where cycling is common they often say there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing. The cold really isn't an issue, and with suitable waterproofs, neither is the rain. Environmental and health (physical and mental) are other benefits, but I'm also hugely passionate about the need to move away from car-dependency, so there was a part of me that just wanted to take on the challenge. I'm even considering making my own videos documenting it. I certainly had my fun with the car: I did a few track days and drove the Nürburgring Nordschleife in it

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

Nissan Puke SUV strikes again.

[@jeangenie5807]

I now a lot of women who used to drive with no shoes on, because they felt it gave them better control on the rubber of the pedal, especially as women's shoes can have some pretty slippery soles. The studs on pavements for people with sight impairments are often similarly dangerous depending on the shoes worn. I have had horrible instances where my shoes have slipped on the brake pedal at crucial moments, particularly in wet weather, even after wiping them on the mat before moving off. However in recent years the styes and materials of women's shows have changed and the more simple solution is to have a pair of driving shoes ready. As for the pyjamas, it appears to be early morning, so maybe she was returning home from the school run and hadn't had her caffeine levels topped up that day, athough the cyclst should have been reasonably visible, from when he entered the roundabout with his bright orange top on! Low winter sun is horrible, and I keep a personal sun visor handy because I am a bit short and the car's fitted visor is not adjustable in that direction!

[@jspider6185]

I really struggle to see eyes through a windshield. The tinting is too dark or there's not enough time while paying attention to everything else. The eyes themselves don't tell me if I've been seen or if they're stopping. Often drivers don't come to a complete stop at an intersection regardless so they'll still be rolling forward whether I've been seen or not. It seems like a complete gamble every time. I wish I knew what to do differently to reduce the risk. I'm considering a flashing light on my helmet at this point and just slowing to a crawl no matter the timing of the car at the intersection.

[@ParanoimiaUK]

I may well be wrong, but I thought it was illegal to drive with bare feet. 🤔🤷‍♂

[@LakesGeek]

I've been caught out by the "cyclist in the A-pillar entering a roundabout" issue, so similar except the cyclist was very switched on and stopped, no collision just brown trousers all round so the only consequences were them quite rightfully letting it all out in a rant and swear session. What can I say, I deserved to be yelled at. The other factor (not an excuse) was it being a familiar small roundabout coming out of a car park where it's VERY rare for anyone to enter from the little road to the right. You've got the main road to the left, the petrol station ahead and one small country lane "no one" uses on the right - except of course that one factory and it's lunchtime. Felt guilty for a week at least. But lesson learned - the one we're told and maybe sometimes loosen up on?: "look twice, think bike", even (especially) in situations where you're not expecting something. Certainly what I do every time now.

[@nuttycommuter3718]

0:07 hit off his bike by a driver. The car isn’t self-driving. Why are you removing the driver from this statement. Language matters.

[@rogerkearns8094]

I drive without shoes on - it's more comfortable and I feel that I have better control, especially of the accelerator. Is this a problem?

[@paddymurphy-oconnor8255]

Grip and control.

[@letter1014]

Yes it is

[@davestokes3446]

Of course you're right. You wouldn't try to drive wearing welders gloves!

[@MrGreekstatue]

She was probably on her phone.

[@wrightwoodwork]

Has the driver seen me yes or no . Am i in the blindspot so they cant see me. So i need to adjust so they can see me and lastly do i have an escape route if they set off. I would possibly have left the roundabout a bit more to the right if i thought the driver couldn't see me for the sun. It just means that if they do go they have space to go into rarther than going into me

[@SaafTea]

As an experienced cyclist and a newly driver, there's no way Kyle could've anticipated the car not stopping from that angle, stopping on a roundabout for a cyclist would be extremely dangerous too. I wouldn't hold Kyle's comment on the Nissan stopping and moving off to the police as him not paying attention, after a head injury, its easy to be confused as such!