Late 15th Century Gothic Style Gauntlets

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Knyght Errant

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@matthewdejesus8215
@matthewdejesus8215 7 жыл бұрын
Only gothic german gauntlets can possibly make the mitten style look good. Late medieval armor was just so gorgeous.
@chaseblackstone8749
@chaseblackstone8749 6 жыл бұрын
B. Braun i dont like it too much, but it works
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
Not only is it beautiful, it's practical.
@christopherdavis7069
@christopherdavis7069 4 жыл бұрын
Almost all medieval armor is gorgeous.
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 11 ай бұрын
I think it's mostly due to the fact that it still maintains the appearance of there being separate fingers when they're actually fused. It's just more coherent for the brain when you look at it.
@Warden_Vtel
@Warden_Vtel 7 жыл бұрын
I love the German Gothic style. It's so elegant
@DaSpineLessFish
@DaSpineLessFish 7 жыл бұрын
Donsmacker1 German Gothic is generally very beautiful. I especially love long Sallets
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 7 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of fantasy armor, like the armorers were showing off.
@KryllKiller
@KryllKiller 7 жыл бұрын
What I love is the fluting is both gorgeous and functional.
@gg2fan
@gg2fan 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Milanese man myself. I think most people would prefer the Gothic look upon first impression but the more I learn about armor and the more I get used to looking at it, the more I appreciate the Italian stuff for it's pragmatism and simplicity. It's not much to look at compared to Gothic but it's really grown on me. Maybe I just prefer rounded shapes as opposed to the sharp and stabby look of the German stuff.
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 7 жыл бұрын
An elegant armor, for a more civilized aged.
@melchaios
@melchaios 7 жыл бұрын
The more I see videos of how plate armour works, the more I marvel at the complexity, craftsmanship and general beauty of the thing. I mean I've always loved knights and plate armour, but you never apreciate how much thought and work went into them until you watch a video like this. Great job
@Ubeer85
@Ubeer85 7 жыл бұрын
The articulation is just mesmerizing to look at. Such a fine craftmanship.
@genericfakename8197
@genericfakename8197 7 жыл бұрын
In my experience fencing with sticks, I have found that getting whacked in the fingers is the most common way to get hit. I would much rather have a mitten style gauntlet than a glove style.
@nono9370
@nono9370 5 жыл бұрын
GenericFakeName sticks dont have a guard
@baronprocrastination1722
@baronprocrastination1722 4 жыл бұрын
@@nono9370 exactly. Not all weapons knights use have a guard of any sort, pollax sometimes included. For the most part, polearms are rather unprotected when it comes to the fingers.
@auscaliber1
@auscaliber1 4 жыл бұрын
being a lacrosse long-pole defenseman I disagree, if you are skilled at using whatever youre holding (and you are, if you're in plate armour), having the freedom of movement you would get from an articulating gauntlet with individual fingers is just so nice. It's hard to quantify if you've never had to do something like it. I'm not saying a mitten (especially one like he has in this video) would be no good, but the difference in your ability to use the weapon to your fullest capability is so great, when you're unfettered by the gloves. It's definitely what I would prefer, personally. In lacrosse i've used horrible clumsy solid-feeling gloves and ive used gloves so well made i can do pretty much everything i could do without them on, and it's one less thing to have to think about or be restricted by. if you're getting smacked in the fingers enough for it to make the difference, you were gonna lose anyway. You could make a similar argument about having a really hefty breastplate, three times thicker than usual. Sure, it would protect you from blunt attacks even better! But there's a reason they're not like that.
@AlexanderWernerJr
@AlexanderWernerJr 7 жыл бұрын
Every time you present such intricate armour I'm amazed by the beauty and functionality of the pieces. Simply stunning.
@SwitchFeathers
@SwitchFeathers 7 жыл бұрын
These are some of my absolute favourite gauntlets, actually have a pair on order from an armourer (for when I can afford them, that is) some absolutely stunning armour. Love late 15th century Gothic plate.
@EliotChildress
@EliotChildress 7 жыл бұрын
liked before the video even started. So excited for a new video. *update: Was not disappointed.
@xiezicong
@xiezicong 7 жыл бұрын
You've been gone for a while. Glad to see a new video!
@cheesepie72
@cheesepie72 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a compare/contrast video for Gothic and Italian armour styles
@hammerandsteelreviews8924
@hammerandsteelreviews8924 5 жыл бұрын
The movement in the wrist is mesmerizing! Awesome pair of gauntlets and great video.
@namemorenames3595
@namemorenames3595 7 жыл бұрын
As always I enjoy your channel. Thanks, and keep it up.
@ellendallanora7404
@ellendallanora7404 Жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who watched the entire intro worrying that he would knock that laptop out of the table.
@SandraOrtmann1976
@SandraOrtmann1976 7 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. Is there any way you can show the other parts of a Gothic armour in this style of video?
@GarrethandPipa
@GarrethandPipa 6 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered what took so long for mitten gauntlets to come about. After a couple of broken fingers I decided mittens where the only way to go. And my life has never been in jeopardy from my hobby
@GeeBarone
@GeeBarone 7 жыл бұрын
the idea of mitten gauntlets styled as finger gauntlets seems to have been adopted in heavy sport combat deviations with some success, didnt know it was a period thing too!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Just be careful. A lot of the modern ones are done with styles of gauntlets that were never historically mitten gauntlets in the first place (like hourglass gauntlets for example).
@GeeBarone
@GeeBarone 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. That's what I've seen them do, as an attempt to make them fit in with the rest of their kit. How authentic those kits are in the first place though is another conversation...
@scootch4224
@scootch4224 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Me wanting to put my grimy hands all over the gauntlets at the museum
@Frostblast7
@Frostblast7 7 жыл бұрын
Well it seems that the ideal type of gauntlet would depend on what kind of opponent you are going to face. If you are going to go against people who are not using maces or pollaxes then the individual finger gauntlet might be preferable since you opponents can't really harm you and it gives more control of your weapon. However if you opponent uses a pollaxe they can break your fingers easier if you use individual finger gauntlet therefore a mitten style is safer.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
If you get hit on the fingers with a mace or pollaxe, your fingers are probably breaking no matter what you have on them :)
@TheOhgodineedaname
@TheOhgodineedaname 7 жыл бұрын
Great video again. What was the overal design philosophy of late 15th century Gothic armor? It stands out from Italian or say English armor quite a bit. The fine lines, absence of significant pauldrons, short faulds look quite delicate. For what kind of purpose was it designed this way?
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 7 жыл бұрын
DushinSC Fluting was done to increase structural integrity without doubling mass. The Germans just went full dandy and made their technical innovation fabulous. Pauldrons in Gothic armor didn't really shrink. They just got more closely fitted. The fitting was only possible due to innovations in articulation. The evolution from hourglass to Gothic gauntlet is actually similar. Just like how the flare in the hourglass gauntlet disappeared when articulation was added to the wrist, the flare in older pauldrons disappeared when articulation was added to the shoulders. Faulds didn't really grow shorter. A lot of the more famous examples do have shorter faulds but this may have been a stylistic preference of nobles. A survey of lower-rank gothic armor shows that most had faulds of roughly the same length as previous styles.
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 7 жыл бұрын
the fluting btw makes the armour more rigid and it can lead to arrows/bolts that hit the armour to not hit it at "good angles" (close to 90°) (+ it can look really nice).... the Maximilian armour or Riefelharnisch took the fluting to a whole other level with nearly the whole armour being fluted
@oawefajweee
@oawefajweee 7 жыл бұрын
The german gothic armor was highly fluted to increase rigidity and protection against projectiles without increasing weight. A projectile hitting an angled surface would increase the effective thickness of the armor without increasing the actual thickness. Italian style armor with smooth shapes and large pauldrons were intended to better protect against wielded weapons like polearms and lances by encouraging glancing blows via the smooth rounded surfaces. The large asymmetric pauldron on the left shoulder is essentially their shield.
@ohioman4646
@ohioman4646 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Germany: overengineering everything since 1324
@davidphillips8674
@davidphillips8674 Жыл бұрын
German engineering 550 years ago, not surprised at all
@viridisxiv766
@viridisxiv766 7 жыл бұрын
you betray your inner nerd with "spock configuration" lol i was thinking more like cloven hoof configuration.
@mccallcarlson3580
@mccallcarlson3580 6 жыл бұрын
I loved it when he said Spock configuration.
@magnos_decimus
@magnos_decimus 7 жыл бұрын
beautiful gauntlet
@mortoopz
@mortoopz 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, learned a bunch, thanks.
@gpgpgpgp1000
@gpgpgpgp1000 7 жыл бұрын
Were you also trained as a medic in the Navy? You used a lot of anatomical terminology not often used by laymen in this video.
@robertl6196
@robertl6196 7 жыл бұрын
He was an aviator (helicopter).
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 жыл бұрын
Robert L But did he get supplement medical training for medevac/rescue duties?
@chrisd6287
@chrisd6287 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the Spock configuration. “Keep your fingers and prosper”
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
And everyone thought it was Zefram Cochrane who made first contact...
@zancospancos
@zancospancos 7 жыл бұрын
fuckin beautiful
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 жыл бұрын
MAybe when they make a kingdom come successor they will finally incorporate gothic armor. I really hope so.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 4 жыл бұрын
Even if the successor were set shortly after the events of the first, these would still be about 70 years too late for the setting.
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant If they make a direct sequel, yes. But maybe they pick a different period. And i honestly don't see how the story of Henry could really go on anyway if you don't want to make it Fantasy. If he continues his meteoric Rise for another Game he would have to be Emperor of the HRE in the End.
@theangrycheeto
@theangrycheeto 7 жыл бұрын
We've missed you, Ian.
@thugai8150
@thugai8150 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how big of an advantage, if any, just a pair of gauntlets would give you in a fight against an unarmed and unarmored opponent.
@garywebster3044
@garywebster3044 3 жыл бұрын
Yes wearing heavy steel gloves will give you an advantage in a fight against someone not wearing them😆
@vincentlaw1415
@vincentlaw1415 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a real knight from back then react to those gauntlets, not knowing that they're made in 2017.
@widowpeak6142
@widowpeak6142 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, those things are beautiful
@soldierbreakneck771
@soldierbreakneck771 5 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece.
@FokkerBoombass
@FokkerBoombass 7 жыл бұрын
It ain't good if you can't give someone the finger before ending them rightly.
@thomashughes4267
@thomashughes4267 4 жыл бұрын
Someone way back when: hey dude, you know how we look super cool in this super sick armor? Let's just stop doing that Other dude: oh shit thats fire
@INS1977
@INS1977 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I tryin create steampunk gauntlet from brass... But result... Not so flexible... No idea why.. Maybe i still holes too far fro edge of plates... +-1cm
@MRKapcer13
@MRKapcer13 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the sideways articulation is achieved with the use of sliding rivets as opposed to leather straps, right? They don't seem substantial enough to be on straps. Edit: you later flip the gauntlet over and the sliding rivets are visible, so I suppose this question is redundant.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, sliding rivets on all the articulation of the metacarpals.
@thezokman
@thezokman 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, those gauntlets look extremely big on you. Is this just a gauntlet to hand size difference or were later period gauntlets actually this big?
@thezokman
@thezokman 6 жыл бұрын
nevermind i just finished watching the video
@L.J.Kommer
@L.J.Kommer 6 жыл бұрын
Good news- These gauntlets make excellent armor for your hand. Bad news- You get thrown out if you use them as boxing gloves at the gym.
@linggan
@linggan 4 жыл бұрын
cool i like
@thuglincoln7699
@thuglincoln7699 7 жыл бұрын
Is the side to side motion of the wrist implemented with slotted holes on the carpal / metacarpal plates? Also, at what points is the glove sewn to the gauntlet? We saw some of the thumb, but where else?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're all slotted rivets. The glove is sewn down on the thumb and fingers, and each side of the metacarpals.
@newonevery740
@newonevery740 6 жыл бұрын
I doubt those decorated armours were mass produced. The majority were probably plain.
@paulprovencher1478
@paulprovencher1478 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Those gauntlets are so noisy; aren't they prone to abrasive wear?! Is there any precedent for involving leather in the mechanism to reduce wear (and noise)?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. There is no evidence for using leather in between overlapping surfaces like that, and we have several examples of surviving gauntlets that still retain the organic components. Leather in places like you're describing would add considerable friction and make the motion much less fluid. It would take a lifetime of wearing the armor to produce any likely effect, but these armors, believe it or not, were often replaced after a few years when fashion and technology changed, long before they'd wear out from their own use. The components that do wear out with frequency are things like the gloves and any leather articulating straps etc., which are easily replaced, but wearing out the metal would be very difficult. As far as noise, it's not that much of a concern. We sometimes get this misconception from pop culture that people would need to be quiet or sneaky in armor, and there are certain components that can be removed to lessen noise, but in general if you're in full harness you're not there to be quiet.
@paulprovencher1478
@paulprovencher1478 6 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant. Terrific. What a learned response. My concern, of course, was not sneaking but rather ordinary life as a rattly-gauntleted soldier!
@GregTom2
@GregTom2 6 жыл бұрын
Would brass plating the surfaces reduce friction and make it more comfortable?
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 5 жыл бұрын
If you were wearing just mail or padding on yer arm does the spikey bit ever rub against it and make it uncomfortable.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, it flexes enough at the wrist that the end of the cuff stays aligned with your forearm pretty well.
@LukasVos
@LukasVos 7 жыл бұрын
Would you say, ill fittet and gappy gauntlets are inaccurate, or would you say, poorly made armour is thinkable/accurate for less rich persons? As you talked about the a little bit crazier forms of helmets, you said, these were possibly fast made, more easy to produce, made of scrap metal, etc. So I believe, less decorated and less well made armour - like gappy or bulky gauntlets - could be the gauntlets of these, who couldn't afford such extraordinarily made armour, like simple citizens of the 15th century, who had to take part in fights for their city (made by my assumption, that gauntlets would be one of the first parts of armour after the helmet someone would buy, if he had to prepare for war. Or do you know an order in which armour was bought respectively in which in your opinion it is more clever to acquire armour? I have a source of the late 15th century in which is told, what a citizen should have in case of war, and it just differentiates between helmet and jacket, helmet and breast plate, and complete full plate armour - no mentioning of arm order leg harness or hands protection.)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
The type of munitions armor that lower class infantry would have access to is a whole different topic of discussion. What I meant is that specifically for gauntlets in the gothic style, poor modern reproductions are generally bulky and improperly articulated, not because they're trying to replicate lower class armor, but because the craftsman is not skilled enough to make them correctly.
@planesrift
@planesrift 7 жыл бұрын
what are the pointy edge of gothic armor for?
@thedarkonestaint2967
@thedarkonestaint2967 3 жыл бұрын
Did i just watch someone move their hands for 16 minutes????
@hoplite1823
@hoplite1823 5 жыл бұрын
Would it possible to mix this and gothic leg\boots with Italian armor or nah?
@nerosmith2578
@nerosmith2578 5 жыл бұрын
Is the side to side motion at the wrist achieved with leather straps or rivets in slits?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 5 жыл бұрын
Sliding rivets
@nerosmith2578
@nerosmith2578 5 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Thank you for the reply, I'm gonna make a pair and wasn't sure.
@user-lw3rw4ol7n
@user-lw3rw4ol7n 5 жыл бұрын
Can we snapp with that? Just an doubt. Where can i ask it?
@jeffhogan3433
@jeffhogan3433 7 жыл бұрын
I want some lol
@-YogSothoth
@-YogSothoth 7 жыл бұрын
greenwich, German gothic, or white Italian. What do you choose?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Personally? Italian.
@gnomeemporer873
@gnomeemporer873 6 жыл бұрын
All of Them
@ianmiller4195
@ianmiller4195 6 жыл бұрын
Italian
@black8worldofficial
@black8worldofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Who has those in 2018??
@black8worldofficial
@black8worldofficial 5 жыл бұрын
WOW then keep them up!
@Mike_Rogge
@Mike_Rogge 5 жыл бұрын
In fantasy video games, I often see gauntlets with steel on the inside. It seems pointless, so was this ever done?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean on the palm? No, it's usually a sewn -in leather or textile glove. It would be very difficult to adequately grip a weapon if the inside of the palm was covered in steel.
@Mike_Rogge
@Mike_Rogge 5 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant Thank you. It seemed dumb to me for gripping swords. Thanks for the answer. Subscribed.
@averageadventurer1644
@averageadventurer1644 2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t we have this “gothic” in today’s standards
@ImNotCocogoat
@ImNotCocogoat 4 жыл бұрын
"Precision German Engineering"
@AnthusFrostwolf
@AnthusFrostwolf 7 жыл бұрын
Did you got this gauntlets as a free sample? I just wonder^^
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
They are owned by my friend Tom Biliter of Historically Patterned Mail, on loan to me for this demo.
@AnthusFrostwolf
@AnthusFrostwolf 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh sorry!^^
@maartenmtr3022
@maartenmtr3022 6 жыл бұрын
jij bent lief
@XobiTech
@XobiTech Жыл бұрын
i love German people it is sign of brave people🎠
@oswaldsweezlebogger6826
@oswaldsweezlebogger6826 7 жыл бұрын
Although it pains me to say it, I think I prefer the Italian armor style in general.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't pain me to say it, I prefer Italian too :) Gothic is still gorgeous though.
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend 7 жыл бұрын
I think the Italian style is generally a better match for our modernist/minimalist sense of aesthetic - Gothic can be a bit... Tacky, like Trump Tower or Versailles x)
@alexshadowfax1119
@alexshadowfax1119 3 жыл бұрын
It's just so amazing that 500 years ago people were basically building ironman suits, just such great craftsmanship, I don't think it gets the admiration it deserves, thank you for the video, have a great day!
@bcl3341
@bcl3341 2 жыл бұрын
You should take a look into the jousting shield launchers most likely fashioned by the clockmakers of the time!
@KelrCrow
@KelrCrow 7 жыл бұрын
Man, that laptop hanging off the edge drives me nuts.
@Godzilla-se8in
@Godzilla-se8in 6 жыл бұрын
It's not hanging though.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 6 жыл бұрын
I lost my harddrive that way.
@fadechicobuarque1989
@fadechicobuarque1989 5 жыл бұрын
Why did you have to mention it? I went back to check and now I am bothered by it.
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, that is just asking for a broken hard disk or screen. Glad Im not the only one it triggered lol
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
Ignorance is better than insight.
@johnharvey5412
@johnharvey5412 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, so that's where Nazghuls get their gauntlets.
@illoney5663
@illoney5663 6 жыл бұрын
I can't recall the description in the books, but the Nazgûl gauntlets are definitely inspired by gothic gauntlets.
@mediocreman6323
@mediocreman6323 3 жыл бұрын
@@illoney5663 - Well, Germany. What else would evil people wear? [Austrian make anti-German jokes.]
@Zarafin
@Zarafin 3 жыл бұрын
@@mediocreman6323 Austria gets reconised less anyway! Ich bin kein Deutscher.
@robray111
@robray111 3 жыл бұрын
@@mediocreman6323 Hitler was Austrian - who is evil now?
@mediocreman6323
@mediocreman6323 3 жыл бұрын
@@robray111 - If Hitler _was_ Austrian, then … what is he _now?_
@nope2788
@nope2788 7 жыл бұрын
The articulation of the plates are almost hypnotic...
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
Almost?
@superfluous9726
@superfluous9726 4 жыл бұрын
Armour asmr video. @Knyght Errant we need this, please.
@riproar11
@riproar11 3 жыл бұрын
I own a similar Gothic replica pair with individually articulated fingers, Maximilian fluting and punched-out heart accents. It is so fun to wear them and admire how they "fit like a glove" and are "one with you". People are blown away when they try them on and I explain to them that an entire Medieval suit of armor was custom-tailored to the knight to feel like the way the gloves feel.
@TheCompleteMental
@TheCompleteMental 2 жыл бұрын
Gauntlet ASMR when?
@ArmouredProductions
@ArmouredProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Gothic Plate Armour is my favorite armor period. Everything about it: The shape, the fluting, the sallet/bevor, the decoration, the protection. It's just so good looking!
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 6 жыл бұрын
Pointed feet
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 6 жыл бұрын
Roman Cabay it's ok to be different but damn, that's just weird and not in a good way...
@thebenevolentsun6575
@thebenevolentsun6575 6 жыл бұрын
Armoured Productions Entire periods can armoured? Crazy!
@hillsmash
@hillsmash 6 жыл бұрын
Armoured Productions w
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
@@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 I get what you mean, the sabatons do look really dumb. They look like something you'd see on an insect.
@MWM1476
@MWM1476 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Ian, as a german subscriber of you, as I watched this video, I remembered that I recently bought a pair of milanese styled gauntlets/mittens, which are quite comparable to the cothic gauntlets, so I made a response video to expand this topic by showing the differences between those two styles, using the information you have given in yours to give everyone who is interested access to a comparison. This is not meant as an advertisement, but rather as an offer for you and, of course, everyone else who is interested, to take a look at it and discuss the topic. Because of that, I am not going to post a link in here, but if you want to, it is available on the channel. Thank you for the time and effort you give to provide this good content.
@Heldar1989
@Heldar1989 7 жыл бұрын
One thing that actually let me down with gothic gauntlets -- it has this opening gap between thumb guard and main plate. I broke a base bone of my thumb when halberd went in there. Nasty experience. Still, my favourite style and I use them to this day for all the historical fighting I do.
@Evan-rj9xy
@Evan-rj9xy 7 жыл бұрын
Watching those gauntlets move is kinda hypnotic lol
@William_Reader
@William_Reader 3 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like hes trying to tame the gauntlet when hes testing it and holding onto it at the same time. like it's a wild creature with it's fluid movement.
@connorjensen9699
@connorjensen9699 3 жыл бұрын
that ulnar/radial deviation is a super underrated feature. Even slight motion there has a huge impact on sword work
@Gooodguyto
@Gooodguyto 7 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, one of my three favorites on KZbin. It's so educational and interesting for a subject that I think has a ton a misinformation out there. You are doing a great work educating me and I'm sure many other people. Keep up the great work.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@elijahoconnell
@elijahoconnell 7 жыл бұрын
German gothic gauntlets GGG
@TheCompleteMental
@TheCompleteMental 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@rademilosevic4944
@rademilosevic4944 6 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there 😉
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 7 жыл бұрын
Finals are coming up, better stay up late watching Ian.
@hamarbiljungskile8953
@hamarbiljungskile8953 6 жыл бұрын
How did the finals go?
@flynn659
@flynn659 5 жыл бұрын
Yes me must know
@Noname-om3pp
@Noname-om3pp 4 жыл бұрын
So did you pass?
@Railstarfish
@Railstarfish 7 жыл бұрын
I could see the slight limitation on bending the wrist forward as a benefit - bending the wrist too far forward is done in wrist locks, so the slight restriction in range of motion might be a form of protection against that.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, there are a lot of cases were joint restrictions in armor could potentially save that actual joint from being destroyed by forced hyperextension and other nasty manipulations.
@lucascastro2802
@lucascastro2802 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old comment, but in my experience being wristlocked, stopping the motion short wont save you. In fact, it's possible to tap someone out with a wristlock before the wrist even bends at all because of the pressure applied to the articulation.
@purplespeckledappleeater8738
@purplespeckledappleeater8738 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the change in technology was a total feat of engineering. I think a change in political stability might have had something to do with a shift from blocky plates to a refinement of articulating joints. Arms race yes, but more political stability makes leaps in craftsmanship seem more plausible. This is what I see when I look at gothic armour before I dig into the actual history.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 6 жыл бұрын
I really love the Gothic and Maximilian Armor, the fluting effect on the hands really makes it stand out, all the while increasing the thickness without extra weight and adding deflection to it also, the mittens ones especially, as opposed to the movable fingers system, there are several ones at Peleș Castle here in Romania that are of said design.
@kaj9245
@kaj9245 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, please keep producing your amazing content.
@nobody2021
@nobody2021 4 жыл бұрын
9:95 >wears gloves to protect it from the oils in his skin >places it on his bare forearm without anything between
@TruthNerds
@TruthNerds 6 жыл бұрын
11:18 "not only does the hinge hinge…" - Can't argue with that. :-) Seriously, though, very interesting video!
@gormold4163
@gormold4163 3 жыл бұрын
0:12 I was a lot younger back then, but yes I recall.
@TheAmbientWarrior
@TheAmbientWarrior 6 жыл бұрын
Wait... articulated fingers predate the clamshell gauntlet? It's like everything I knew about gauntlets was wrong...
@robertrostron1550
@robertrostron1550 6 жыл бұрын
Ambient Relaxation well there were mitten gauntlets made of mail before
@Ravn000
@Ravn000 7 жыл бұрын
You know your content is amazing when my heart fucking skipped a beat when I saw you had a new video! Great video as always! Will try to patiently await your next.
@juanalvarez2830
@juanalvarez2830 3 жыл бұрын
The past is magnifical: I was militar in Spain. In a Regiment called "Milan". In city of Oviedo. Founded in Milan, Italy, in 1535 like Tercio Viejo de Milan. An Spanish Elite corps, not Italian. To defend Italy from Franchis. In museum we had somme olds like this... XVI-XVII-XVIII etc... Century
@KryllKiller
@KryllKiller 7 жыл бұрын
I've noticed Indian reproductions have much fewer plates and therefore have less articulation. If considering buying a repro, definitely compare plate numbers to extant pieces.
@JohnBreedyJr
@JohnBreedyJr 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how much by watching you explain why they are designed that way as well as you showing the movement has improved my drawing comprehension in the first 9 minutes! Thank you!
@DR3ADNAU7Gaming
@DR3ADNAU7Gaming 6 жыл бұрын
I love Gothic armor but absolutely hate the helmets. I have always been more of a closed helm/armet/ great helm type of guy.
@myearshurtnoone1367
@myearshurtnoone1367 6 жыл бұрын
9:34 need that motion, for sure. ya know to like um, swing your sword...
@TorvusVae
@TorvusVae 7 жыл бұрын
Totally off topic question, but would a coat of plates work if the plates were on the outside?
@coltonblack6850
@coltonblack6850 7 жыл бұрын
Destructive Criticism There's no reason they wouldn't.
@doomjoon_zmajich
@doomjoon_zmajich 7 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't be able to overlap the way they could if they were on the inside.
@coltonblack6850
@coltonblack6850 7 жыл бұрын
Sure they could. Lorica Segmenta does much the same thing with external plates.
@jgraves1942
@jgraves1942 7 жыл бұрын
it would work, but worse. one advantage of a coat of plates is that the textile shell prevents the plates from gaping, as they are sandwiched between the shell and the wearer's body. with the plates on the outside of the shell, it would be much easier to work a point in between them.
@coltonblack6850
@coltonblack6850 7 жыл бұрын
Unless the plates were secured to each other. But at that point it would have more in common with lammelar armor than a coat of plates.
@wolfenstinehoffman5753
@wolfenstinehoffman5753 6 жыл бұрын
That razer laptop is dangerously close to the edge of that table and I am concerned
@krisztianpovazson4535
@krisztianpovazson4535 7 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't the pointy end of the thumb plate be pointed to the glove somehow? It appears to stick out a lot.
@MrManifolder
@MrManifolder 7 жыл бұрын
I think you might be right. You can see in the original historical gauntlet, in the video around the 10:00 mark, that the thumb plate has two little holes that would be an excellent anchor point for sew it to a glove.
@madcowrebel4216
@madcowrebel4216 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, have you ever been told that you look very much like Ian from forgotten weapons? ...and the same kind of videos too...
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
Once or twice ;)
@willek1335
@willek1335 7 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that decorations were popular, but I wonder if the lower end types would also have the same attention to decoration? To what degree is the type that you've shown reflect the status of a man-at-arms of your previews armour? Is it of higher status or lower? I'm just trying to put it into context with your previews late 14th/ early 15th century armour of a non-knightly man-at-arms.
@countbyran
@countbyran 7 жыл бұрын
Wille k there are actually a few that did not feature heavy fluting or file work, www.philamuseum.org/collections/permanent/306168.html?mulR=1077296318%7C2
@SwitchFeathers
@SwitchFeathers 7 жыл бұрын
@knyght errant Hey, I had a question regarding gauntlets, specifically fingers: In reproductions of late gothic gauntlets, there seems to be a lot of armourers who use finger scales, or lames, instead of finger plates. But in most surviving historical models I've seen, the fingers seem to be plated. Is there any real difference in the level of protection or quality between lames and plates on gauntlets with separated fingers? Thanks!
@Katana_Gryphon
@Katana_Gryphon 7 жыл бұрын
10:23 Ian, do you think the lines are purely decorative, just to give the illusion of individual fingers, or do the peaks and ridges on the finger lames distribute force better than a smooth surface? Do you think this may have been a consideration?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
The ridges will undoubtedly provide added stiffness to the material.
@Comicsluvr
@Comicsluvr 3 жыл бұрын
My first time here so please allow me to make a few points: 1) Nice intro. Badass without taking 45 seconds. 2) Good content. Nice description, clear speech, lots of pics to help show what you're talking about. 3) Nice helmet on the shelf behind you. Have a Sub!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Welcome, and I hope you enjoy the other videos!
@Comicsluvr
@Comicsluvr 3 жыл бұрын
@@KnyghtErrant It's easy to praise good work.
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 жыл бұрын
What bothers me about this (and you can clearly see in the "combat picture" in the end that this isn't resolved by mail) is that the inside of the wrist is almost not protected at all. And if you again look at the combat picture at 15:30, you can see, if these were swords and not staves one of the knights would already have his wrists slashed open (and the other the elbow but i am assuming that there would be more mail there.) Would there just be more mail covering the inside of the wrist and hand? Leaving the inside of the wrist exposed seems awfully risky to me given that the opponent has easy access to that in close combat and it is a very vulnerable part with tendons and arteries.
@hacheurdepoulet
@hacheurdepoulet 7 жыл бұрын
As always, good video ;) I really hope you'll find someone with italian gaunts to do a video on!
@mps81a
@mps81a 7 жыл бұрын
Those gauntlets are beautiful! A couple of questions, if I may: Is there any significance to the brass rivets, or is it just a stylistic choice? Would someone ever mix a fingered gauntlet on one hand with a mitten on the other? Thanks!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
The brass rivets on Tom's gauntlets are rivets that are there only there to attach the underlying leathers for stitching to the gloves, they're not articulating the gauntlet itself. I think the use of brass there was just a decorative choice, as brass doesn't make a great rivet for articulating steel components. As far as mixed gauntlets, I've never observed an extant armor with one mitten and one finger gauntlet. The Italians were sometimes fond of asymmetrical gauntlet styles, but it was usually something like an extended cuff or bulkier left gauntlet, not one mitten and one fingered.
@mps81a
@mps81a 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you so much for replying Ian! Cheers, Matt
@unlee6993
@unlee6993 7 жыл бұрын
Ah~ the detailed explanation as to why they have this bump in the wrist area is why I love to see your contents. Didn't even know that they are there. Let alone the reason for them. Thanks for the great videos as always!
@unlee6993
@unlee6993 7 жыл бұрын
And for someone who was wearing these military gears, I know those detailed designs can help so much on how comfortably you can wear them. It makes so much sense. Cause, damn that skin on boney areas hurt so much!
@X3105i
@X3105i 7 жыл бұрын
German will not break by looking at it, and looks better
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