Robyn's comment: "We'll get around them" (the restrictions) tells it all. She and Kody knew about the restrictions, but intended to do whatever they wanted. Narcissists don't think rules are meant for them. I'm sure Meri, Janelle, and Christine did not know the full extent of the restrictions.
@tracybeehner53053 ай бұрын
Robin and Kody like to have secrets!
@MimiRAM0NE3 ай бұрын
They had to sign the papers, they should have known.
@TheBaskinmays3 ай бұрын
Janelle should of known if she this brilliant minded business woman.
@Laurie-zy5rp3 ай бұрын
@@abeal49 I live near a large desirable rural property, that is zoned for farming or industrial. It’s very low lying and it takes a community vote to change the use of the land and zoning laws. A real estate investor tried to turn it into a housing development with section 8 units in the middle of the high end housing he proposed to build. Needless to say, the people voted it down but a commissioner in his pocket is still trying to approve the investor’s proposed changes. It’s not easy to rewrite the zoning just because..
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
They all knew of the restrictions. They each initialed the boxes on the loan agreement acknowledgement that disclosure of the restrictions we're known of my each individual signing the loan.. Further proof they knew was Janelle knew she could only put a fifth wheel on the property.. No other kind of camper approved. She knew she could only keep it parked there 30, days and that she needed a generator to operate it as electric couldn't be put in there with out county approval.. Kody and Robin aren't capable of pulling off much without being found out . All the buyers would had t been told by the lender and have to agree they knew of any and all restrictions before the sale could of been done
@kerensabrowning-howard8563 ай бұрын
So Kody & Robyn essentially let Janelle & Savannah be homeless & they took her $$ too!!!
@tracybeehner53053 ай бұрын
Yes, exactly! Such a good husband, father and sister wife. Kody and Robin are disgusting!
@DollHouseMadam3 ай бұрын
Sounds about right with these people.
@jennymccrory46043 ай бұрын
I feel so extremely sorry for Janelle, Robyn and Kody are trash !!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧
@MimiRAM0NE3 ай бұрын
Janelle let it happen, though. She signed the papers, and it's not that she's dumb.
@virginiajoyner49903 ай бұрын
So the land being their home place was basically a scam. So now the money is gone and only someone who is willing to go to the county and fight for the restrictions to be dissolved. Christine was right in giving her rights of the land away. Just gave to the wrong person.
@Jenna_793 ай бұрын
Definitely believe that Kody and Robyn were the orchestrators of the entire Flag Staff land/move.
@dayab55683 ай бұрын
Agree 100%
@Hwalker53 ай бұрын
Absolutely premeditated. These women are embarrassing for not taking legal action against Kody and Robyn.
@canadianalien3703 ай бұрын
The women are complicit in one way or another. They knew it was illegal to apply for food stamps, yet they did, they knew they were making false statements on their bankruptcy forms, yet they did. Just a bunch of grifters looking for a free ride.
@naomimeadows17243 ай бұрын
Agreed, but realistically, could they? Since they weren't legally married, would they even have any legal remedy? I know they were all on different deeds, loans, etc., I just wonder if one contract would override lack of a marriage contract? It's all super shady anyway you look at it!
@TheYellowrose213 ай бұрын
They are embarrassing getting involved with Kody in the first place!
@kathybishop66233 ай бұрын
Janelle is a realtor and christine went to school for it ????
@susanh81863 ай бұрын
Janelle having real estate knowledge should have known houses weren't going to happen yet she put money towards it. Makes no sense!
@emirom23 ай бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY believe it! Anything to keep the show going! The cul-de-sac was getting boring and the show was on the verge of being cancelled. It’s so horrible that they kept uprooting, and psychologically damaging their kids for storylines. The worst being the kids who were torn away from their friends when they were about to enter their Senior year of high school!
@winnowmethis95013 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!!!!!
@KittyCarson3 ай бұрын
No kidding. What a whack-a-doodle environment to raise children. Bless the kids. 😟
@Atherosdel3 ай бұрын
I quit watching this show after he took Robyn as a fourth wife. I’m surprised it’s still on tv.
@hillarymurphy52563 ай бұрын
@@Atherosdelrobyn was in the show from the beginning. Lol
@Atherosdel3 ай бұрын
@@hillarymurphy5256 no she wasn’t.
@Helpfromabovealways3 ай бұрын
Everything on that show was a lie. Every. Single. Thing. I don't know why I am surprised.
@janetjenkins26743 ай бұрын
TLC is infamous for producing FAKE reality shows.
@pearlbubbles68853 ай бұрын
@g.flesch9731 Kody saying Meri didn't share her money, her resources. Is this why Kody relationship with Meri ended ?? Meri could see Kody/Robyn inability to handle $$$$ ?? I don't blame Meri sticking around for the $$$$.
@hazeleyes67253 ай бұрын
All so Kody & Robyn got what they wanted for themselves & her children. Robbery, criminal, an absolute scam.
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
Robbery? The deed to the property is in Kody..Robin Janelle and Mary's name new since it got pd off by Janelle in March before they lost it. It's worth minimum 800 thousand dollars now and that's_200 thousand apiece for each of them.. None of them are crying about it I'm sure. A big developer will buy it. They know the loopholes and which commissioners hand to grease to get around the restrictions. The value of the property has increased each time it's been sold the last 30 years so no doubt it's fairly valuable piece of real estate
@lorielynn23 ай бұрын
They waste so much money having Kody in charge.
@LPRECIADO943 ай бұрын
I’m sick & tired of this family. These woman should have taken action against Kody long ago.
@user-yk7mn3cu1r3 ай бұрын
This show has been 🐂 from the beginning, poor kids 😢
@cathydavis70413 ай бұрын
Talk about buying a 3 legged horse... Kody Brown is a con artist.
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
No. He didn't mislead them. They all would have been given the same disclosure on restrictions of the property. Would of had to of been signed by each person that they had been informed of all this prior to the purchase.. it wasn't Kody scamming anyone.. As a family they were the ones off and on over 30 years who collectively scammed others.. Misrepresentin their income and property holds to get food stamps off and on in regular fashion.. That's one of the problems the state is Utah didn't like about poligimay.. Was a lot of scams what low level fraud involved
@dorisblaubucht44383 ай бұрын
@@OofWillis You know what? This was a storyline that was a free commercial for the architect. That's my take now. How much of the big house storyline was true? 0% 30% 50% 80% I think there was some truth, because I do remember Christine getting upset.
@OofWillis3 ай бұрын
@@dorisblaubucht4438That too… either way, it was cruel to make such a big reveal to his wives and kids without letting all of them in on the ruse - some of whom were incredibly excited about the pipe dream and others (like Christine) who had to struggle with and be publicly shamed for not wanting it - all while it wasn't even a possibility. To me, this is the ultimate move in Kotex’s narcissistic ways.
@WJ41983 ай бұрын
@@dorisblaubucht4438Funny you mention Christine, because I’ve been re-watching the entire series and in season 1, Christine mentions looking forward to the family getting back to normal after Kody & Robyn’s wedding, and she brings up all of them living in one big house together. When I saw that episode yesterday, I almost fell off my seat because she pitches such a fit when he finally brings up building one big house there in Arizona. I believe it’s a good thing they didn’t build one giant house, because it would’ve absolutely trapped all of the wives, unless of course they would’ve been willing to leave empty handed, because no doubt that house would’ve been in Kody‘s name alone.
@dorisblaubucht44383 ай бұрын
@@WJ4198 You're right! The family became more and more disfunctional after K+R got together. By the time of the big house plan, Christine didn't want to watch K+R "honeymooning" in a shared house... I don't know if Kody had been able to pull off the house project without the wives co-signing. But anyhow, when leaving, it would have been very difficult for the OG3 to get their money back. We only have to look at where Janelle is now financially. 💰🍜
@annhardink87193 ай бұрын
The family meeting with the kids present and blue prints of a huge multi apartment house so everyone could be “together” under one roof again was baloney too? That’s really sick.
@das10133 ай бұрын
When that episode aired, I looked up the woman who created the drawings (I was suspicious when they went 2 hrs out of Flagstaff to meet her in her livingroom, so I looked on LinkedIn to see what she claimed to be). She identified as a "draftperson", not a licensed architect, so her artwork would not be acceptable at the building permit office. Perhaps she created the casita art too. And was hoping for a Barndominium drawing commission.
@kathybishop66233 ай бұрын
Cody just wanted too make one of his presentations like a bigshot......
@myrnawilliams44153 ай бұрын
This is just disgusting 🤮
@sandyerwin33273 ай бұрын
@@das1013it doesn't surprise me that Kody would get someone to draw up a blue print for a house that isn't qualified. He thinks he can do whatever he wants whether it's legal or not. Hence driving on suspended driver's licence because he had so many tickets from breaking the law speeding.
@kelliedevers19543 ай бұрын
As a realtor I have questions about their agent and her due diligence. She knew they were purchasing that property for homes, not for anything else. She and her broker are liable. This whole sale is one big mess.
@marionsgift2 ай бұрын
I think Kody knew the conditions attached to the acreage. I think his long term plan was to live with Robyn, let the other three pay off the debt on the land then tell them they couldn't live there. Then use the land to develop for holiday lets and that would be their income going forward. Kody is think, but, he is business (con) savvy where those woman were concerned!
@christinedufer7075Ай бұрын
Thank u thank u thank u 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@sherrynusbaum59133 ай бұрын
It turns out the property is basically worthless.kody, you're such a genius! Lol😅
@twovirginiacats37533 ай бұрын
LOL. I always thought the property was awful looking. Sorry . . . I'm an east coast girl. :)
@user-gq4kn9sf2m3 ай бұрын
@@twovirginiacats3753 I'm even further east, I'm in the UK. It looks like the town dump to me!
@silkenaria3 ай бұрын
I'm a west coast girl(California). It's definitely high desert land, and not been kept in good condition. My concern is Flagstaff has a large Navajo community, I'm wondering if the lot was actually Native land that should never have been sold off. Much less sold off to a group of people with a highly problematic religion in regards to any PoC's.
@DC-cv9ch3 ай бұрын
Don't give them a great idea. He will build a commercial dump. Lol@@user-gq4kn9sf2m
@mildredmorine7453 ай бұрын
I think they thought they could do as they pleased because over the years they took advantage of of the system in every way they could got away with it because of the situation they were living in, all the women had homes of their own. Therefore they could get welfare, social assistance, food stamps, etc.
@brendahines82463 ай бұрын
NO to having Kody and Robyn on new season!!!! Perhaps, only to show them going to jail for fraud.....
@snowqueen38233 ай бұрын
They lied to the audience, well colour me surprised!!! One of many, many lies I’m sure.
@missybancroft66883 ай бұрын
What a bad choice! Kody is so utterly reckless when it comes to money...if I were Mary and Janelle I'd be hiring an attorney.. Kody is a financial hot mess!
@user-yk5ss6nl2c3 ай бұрын
Kody has no clue how to manage money. Ridiculous man.
@TheYellowrose213 ай бұрын
But he knew how to make money as a Pimp!
@Lady.Scorpio73 ай бұрын
He doesn't know how to manage a big family either.
@norinemoynihan99063 ай бұрын
He’s a born scammer and narcissist, he met his match when he hooked up with Robyn, a major manipulator and between them they have used the other wives and children as chattel, useful only to support their agenda.
@lindylessard580413 күн бұрын
Does he even have a real job?
@seameology3 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised Robbem was behind Coyote Pass. She can't make a solid financial decision to save her life!
@midgeelkins18903 ай бұрын
Christine pulled one on them by selling the land for $1.00. That’s all it’s worth! Time to sell and move again.
@sherrynusbaum59133 ай бұрын
But who would buy it ?🤔
@kerensabrowning-howard8563 ай бұрын
Christine was so f***ING smart to drop that for a buck! Janelle should really talk to a team of NOT TLC attorneys asap
@diannetinsley39263 ай бұрын
I had to giggle a little when Christine refinanced on her own and removed kotex. She got all her money back 😅
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
Your nuts. The land is still worth the$800 thousands they paid. Janelle paid the remainder of the mortgage off in March before they lost it so the more than, 600 thousand they had paid on it wasn't lost. The deed is in everyone but Christines in names. Real estate prices in Flagstaff remain stable Even increase. A big developer will buy it as he'd know the loopholes to get around most restrictions.. KODY didn't buy a place that was a rip off.. It's been bougjt and sold over and over they the years.. With the value holding steady or rising.. They still own it.. One can't sell it without the others signing too.. So in essence it's money in the bank. A part of the equity that Janelle ended up being only one in Flagstaff that had nada to show for her whole life of working. Somewhere down the way they'll sell it. They each have 200 hundred thousand investment in it.. So no one has gotten fucked at all
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
@@sherrynusbaum5913obviously a developer who knows his way around the restrictions with loophole. It's in Flagstaff.. Property value there increases successfully year after year. The property has been bought and resold at a profit Several times the last 30 years.. it's definitely got value and can be sold fairly easily I'm sure
@zebrawarriorprincess17483 ай бұрын
Was it zoned for a picnic table for Robin? lol 😂 I think this is just another way Kody thinks he’s above the rules. I think they bought it because it was substantially cheaper and figured it could easily be re zoned. Despite having a realtor Janelle in the family they make bad housing choices.
@cathyspiller71543 ай бұрын
And the shit pond.
@Laurie-zy5rp3 ай бұрын
Clearly this isn’t Robyn Brown’s America, that she learned about in school
@MollysMom53 ай бұрын
Well, the Kodester ALWAYS gets his way NO MATTER WHAT, and Janelle & Meri were too timid to stand up to him.
@lisagoldwyn33393 ай бұрын
I'm not convinced janelle knew all about it. The picnic table for Robyn. Nice. And rocking chairs next to a swingset.
@das10133 ай бұрын
And what about storage of moving vans and cargo trailers and old vehicles? Are there time limits on those if an RV can only be parked for 100 days with special permission?
@teamcougars3 ай бұрын
Yet another bad investment sold by Kody to the wives 🤦🏼♀️
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
Actually a hell of a decent investment as the land value has not decreased. Probably increased. It's been sold and bought several times over the last, 30 years with the restrictions. Each sale of the property the value has increased. It's pubic record. And it showed steady increase in value for at least the last 30; years
@dorisblaubucht44383 ай бұрын
That helluva businessman! 🍜head.
@abrianaganoza3 ай бұрын
This entire show is a lie. All of it. Minus the drama that came across eventually because of time. You can only “pretend” for so long. All of the wives (ex now) have been lying to the audience of their show and at this point it just needs to end.
@Lady.Scorpio73 ай бұрын
He seriously looks like the Geico caveman with his hair like this.
@annemariepeterhoff72613 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@laurieboughfman57273 ай бұрын
Yay for Christine for getting out first and playing Kody so well!
@user-lr5ip8eq9h3 ай бұрын
Christine is the smart one.
@patsyjayson85033 ай бұрын
Christine got out with money, and that pissed Kody and Sobin off they wanted to take everything away from Christine, Janelle, and Meri. I hope Sobin and Kody sow what they reap 10 folds.
@jadap43253 ай бұрын
I’m sure David guided her through that he’s a smart man
@stacyjohnson66273 ай бұрын
Christine lucked up big time. Kody taking his name off her house so he could purchase Robyn’s made it possible for Christine to take the cash from the sale of her home and walk away from Coyote Pass.
@stacyjohnson66273 ай бұрын
@@jadap4325 She wasn’t with David when she sold her AZ home.
@heidikitt47803 ай бұрын
The whole show is a scam
@eboney743 ай бұрын
TLC is tye biggest scam. All thier shows are too. 😂
@annemariepeterhoff72613 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@SD-nh5yr3 ай бұрын
Waste of time to even watch them anymore...our of curiosity I did at first, but not anymore.
@deebrown37083 ай бұрын
Robyn wants to build a compound for Robyn’s kids. She wants them to have their own home so they will never leave the cult. She admitted it.
@JunieGrl3 ай бұрын
I wonder if the kids were made to believe this was ever a real option? These tales are just another reason his kids have no respect for him.
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
The kids were nearly all grown by the time they got to Flagstaff. Doubt they ever gave a rats ass either way about coyote pass
@JunieGrl3 ай бұрын
@kaydeedid they most certainly would give a shit if their lives were turned upside down for a total pipe dream.
@susanbarnett7613 ай бұрын
Either all the wives were unable to read, or they are just as liable for this fiasco.
@patsyjayson85033 ай бұрын
I don't think Sobin and Kody didn't let them see everything that was going on and that's why Sobin got the big house because Sobin and Kody knew the truth and that they were never going to built on the property.
@KristySki3 ай бұрын
They probably read it but figured that they could get it changed. They all had a part in this.
@pearlbubbles68853 ай бұрын
Women couldn't get a credit card till 1974. Bank account in 1960, some banks didn't allow women an an account till 1974. They trusted him.
@teresarudnik80673 ай бұрын
A sister wife is supposed to be obedient and unquestioning towards her ‘master’!!!
@patsyjayson85033 ай бұрын
@@teresarudnik8067 yes isn't that sick!!!
@jillkubitschek21453 ай бұрын
Robyn is responsible for some of their worst business and money decisions
@Nevermindjess3 ай бұрын
Both her and kotex make the worst decisions. They have to be some of the dumbest in America.
@patsyjayson85033 ай бұрын
Sobin is responsible for the fall of this family.
@MeganVictoriaKearns3 ай бұрын
@@patsyjayson8503I know you probably agree, but I have to clearly identify Kody as responsible too.
@pearlbubbles68853 ай бұрын
Robyn and Kody cons on every level.
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
This property as of March 2024 is fully PD off. The deed is issued in Kody..Janelle..Robin and Mary names. The value of the property in March this year is listed at$800 thousand. Each one of them have a$200 thousands savings acct so to speak. I'm sure they'll sell it soon enough. It's had no problem being sold.. Not on the market long before it's sold again and each time for more than before. So it's fairly nice piece of real estate to own free aha clear by the four of them
@twovirginiacats37533 ай бұрын
My guess is that Kody thought he could get around the property restrictions. The women probably just did what they were told to do. What a loss. I bet it isn't that easy to sell either.
@kathybishop66233 ай бұрын
They do what cody says because he's the boss if they don't he punishes them ....
@Sunshine_Love3133 ай бұрын
Another scam brought to you by Sister Wives Show.
@tordlarsson59503 ай бұрын
TLC is also in on the scamming of the whole show(s).
@MeganVictoriaKearns3 ай бұрын
@@tordlarsson5950clicked this comment to say the same thing! TLC is sketchhhhhhhy
@kimdebruno3 ай бұрын
I said a millions times! Coyote pass is Kody's "glass castle." It was NEVER going to happen. 😂
@tvmom3 ай бұрын
I agree. This whole show is scripted and fake AF. I did used to enjoy watching though.
@pamveselka46003 ай бұрын
Meri and Janelle should sue them. They owe u this money from the down payment on Robyn's house at least.
@LJernegan3 ай бұрын
The move seemed like a bad idea from the beginning. The four homes together was obviously the best living arrangement. If the family was viable, it would have worked there.
@Trucksh73 ай бұрын
I have a feeling that they could not afford all 4 mortgages for those homes and had to sell, because it really was the PERFECT living arrangement.
@karengenereux63073 ай бұрын
This is what I love about you Katie..you are an amazing detective..
@nikk32513 ай бұрын
Robyn playing innocent about property purchases she benefits from. Grrrrr! Thanks Katie xx
@kaydeedid3 ай бұрын
She certainly not the only one profiting. Each of the 4 owners clearly listed on the deed of the PD in full piece of property have a 200 hundred thousand dollar investment property. In coyote pass. Listed value of the property for tax propose in March 2024 is$800 thousand😢😢
@anthonytroisi66823 ай бұрын
@@kaydeedid If no one can really develop it, Robin ends up with no neighbors and a great deal of privacy. Why wasn't all this revealed before the purchase of the property? Was Kody scammed?
@darlenefraser30223 ай бұрын
Janelle shouldn’t even had the RV on it! And SHE (being a Realtor) should have known better!
@Nightbird19143 ай бұрын
I think that’s why it was temporary.
@Niajam773 ай бұрын
Janelle is not smart.
@sallymarkay32103 ай бұрын
I hope the women join forces and sue the pants off of Kody and Robyn.
@SD-nh5yr3 ай бұрын
They can't really...they willingly did what they did.
@_Nat_A_3 ай бұрын
Boycott the show
@bridgettross45893 ай бұрын
Another thing that would have made me walk away from even considering buying that property is that because of the prairie dogs contamination that carry plague. You can look up how dangerous that is in the area. I read that all the contaminated dirt would need to be removed and replaced with “clean” dirt. Even then the prairie dogs would just continue to contaminate the replacement dirt. I never understood why the Browns would risk their kids health by moving onto the property anyway. This, in addition to the ridiculous deed restrictions, just makes whoever that did know about all these problems before buying is nuts! Love your podcasts Katie, keep up the great work!
@das10133 ай бұрын
And the realtor lady disclosed the prairie dog plague problem on camera for the world to see! So she & the seller weren't the fraudsters.
@elizabethgarrison3 ай бұрын
That's what i remember . That's why Noone is allowed to have a primary residence on the property because the dirt is poisoned.
@laurenradke16393 ай бұрын
That’s right, contaminated soil! It was brought up once and never mentioned again.
@karengenereux63073 ай бұрын
Now it makes sense for kody and Robyn wanting a main house for everyone to live in.. This way they could build little cabins for investment on the land..but kody wasn't going to say anything about that to anyone.. Robyn wanting her bench 😂😂😂 Her and Mykelti can sit on the bench 😂
@SusanMeade-xg6jm3 ай бұрын
Kody mentioned “restrictions” on Coyote Pass when they were looking at the property and he “said” he wanted the restrictions removed. Did he ever do that? Knowing Kody, he probably never did. Kody talked to Mari in season 18 that the division of property was for 5 lots, but if he never revised the lots from 4 to 5 then the ownership of the property is very different than what he told Mari and possibly also Janelle. Why don’t these ladies get a forensic accountant and fight for what is theirs, going back to the purchase & sale of the Las Vegas homes as well as Coyote Pass. Not just the sale value & purchase value of the homes, but who made the monthly payments? I feel like Cody never paid anything to the individual homes in Las Vegas?
@user-nr2we3oh6o3 ай бұрын
Kody wasted the womens money, can't get my head around how he could do this to the kids mothers , the newly married one gets everything 🤬
@donnaatboogaloobuys53813 ай бұрын
Janelle is just as clueless with money as Kody is! Meri and Christine are the only 2 with finance sense. Robyn is just lazy and won’t work- she only wanted a hobby business
@mienafriggstad33603 ай бұрын
I think Kody thought he could change the stipulations to build; just like he always thinks he can change the rules to suit himself 🤦♀️
@youtubeismytimemachine59173 ай бұрын
Katie joy does it again. You're as good as any investigative journalist I've seen. This was so informative but also not surprising that the browns used this as a storyline. Now we know why the property has sat since 2018.
@therealMelB3 ай бұрын
I'm just glad they left Vegas! Let Arizona deal with Kody & his bs. I wish Nevada could ban him and his wife (s) from ever returning seriously. They are a drain on any state resources, scam artists, and benefit thieves !
@joycek65563 ай бұрын
Shameful. He almost got away with it. Robyn and Kody got their home, the rest thought they would be building their homes on that property.
@shariliming24413 ай бұрын
I can't believe a seller can put those kind of restrictions on property. Who in the world wants to build a vacation home that far out of town, with no view and close to other properties? I feel for Meri, Janelle and Christine that they swallowed his bull for so long. Thank goodness they finally woke up and left his sorry a$$. Hope they sue him for all he's worth and more.
@jamiecronin9673 ай бұрын
This is what happens when women are subservient to a worthless piece of crap loser like Kody. Useless men Like Kody lead the women to ruin. And why did they think the lazy loser was such a catch that they were all willing to to not only share him but support his worthless mistress?
@rosecowan15563 ай бұрын
A rich person who lives in Scottsdale AZ. They come up To flagstaff for the summer.
@megnakamura76523 ай бұрын
“Just look at the mountain “.
@MatchaKat943 ай бұрын
I'm not convinced they can retain those restrictions once the property is paid off. I believe they basically financed it directly from the seller, as opposed to getting a traditional loan. It doesn't make any sense that they could just repossess something they no longer have any ownership of. Those sellers did modify some of the initial restrictions so I'm assuming the Browns could do the same. "Sell" it to a shell company and modify the agreement so they can build as the property is zoned. Not that they will build, because broke.
@judithbutler96953 ай бұрын
There was so much verbal diarrhea about this property, when Mary didn’t fuss over getting a loft over a barn😳😳😳😳 that was sketchy for sure! I cannot believe some benevolent lawyer out there doesn’t help the women that were in this cult.
@NDgal773 ай бұрын
I agree, but the women have to want to get an attorney's assistance. As of yet, I haven't heard that they are disputing anything Kody has done.
@twovirginiacats37533 ай бұрын
They may all have legal counsel. We just don't hear about it.
@kerensabrowning-howard8563 ай бұрын
In the state of Arizona🌵you are NOT required to have an attorney for buying or selling of land🙄 TLC probably had "their" legal team look it over & we all know that ONLY kody is in those talks!!
@coruptedboy46143 ай бұрын
There's an attorney in az who said she would help them all. They didn't take her up on her offer.
@iloveamerica39173 ай бұрын
This family has made millions of dollars over 18 seasons I don't think an attorney needs to be benevolent and offer free services to anyone in this family.
@doloresdesoto21473 ай бұрын
Go out n get jobs, like the rest of us! Stop paying this family
@Mmoose7123 ай бұрын
Agree Delores!
@sandyerwin33273 ай бұрын
@@meggie423 no one wants a crying Walmart greeter.b😂😂😂😂
@jillkubitschek21453 ай бұрын
Why did they spend all that money on architects if they couldn’t build?!
@HaleyHaleyx3 ай бұрын
I'm thinking that also
@SusanMeade-xg6jm3 ай бұрын
Look at the double talk that Cody gave to Janelle when he was trying to convince her to buy Christine’s house in Flagstaff when the first offer fell through. He is a snake oil salesman.
@evelynbare19753 ай бұрын
Now it makes sense why he was so annoyed with Janelle wanting to move onto the property in her RV! Him saying, I'm not staying out here with you," as his way of manipulating her into not living out there in the RV. I don't believe that she knew, and if she didn't as a realtor than none of the OG3 knew. I think that's quite possible since they probably had all the negotiations done through attorneys. I think a lot of stuff about what was being done with the family money and for who was hidden from the OG3 wives. I think a lot of financial decisions were made by Robber and Cotex to benefit the two of them only. I honestly think that Cotex has looked at the OG3 as his "workers" always, and he sees himself as entitled to their lives, their children, and the fruits of their labors. So EVIL!
@user-yk7mn3cu1r3 ай бұрын
Love the names cotex and robber 😂😂😂😂
@evelynbare19753 ай бұрын
@@user-yk7mn3cu1r it's accurate. 😊
@das10133 ай бұрын
Also, the "pond" is a runoff water retention pond and there is a gas pipeline, both of which would prohibit any building within certain distances. It would be interesting if there were restrictions on cutting down trees, peeling them and leaving the stripped logs to deteriorate in the elements.
@WithoutACrystalBall3 ай бұрын
YEP! that part too
@sandralybrand94253 ай бұрын
I don't understand why other people ever bought the property before they bought it. To me if it's soil is contaminated and you can't build a house on it, it's totally useless and a waste of thousands of dollars! 😮
@quine93863 ай бұрын
The show need to be canceled. The women knew what this have been along.
@Michellef11173 ай бұрын
This is like a KNIFE TO THE KIIIIIDNEY!
@coruptedboy46143 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@coruptedboy46143 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@loriwooten52493 ай бұрын
All the sacrifices I made!!!..... just to love you!!!! That phrase sort of never leaves your head!
@Michellef11173 ай бұрын
@loriwooten5249 that was so messed up for him to say.
@loriwooten52493 ай бұрын
@@Michellef1117 It really was!! And he's stuck with that, forever!! (So are we, I guess? LOL!)
@user-ww2ru2fr3q3 ай бұрын
Such a Scam!!! Why in the world would they Ever have bought that land, when they initially couldn’t even find places to Live! Such a Loss, such Lies!
@marianneprescott14973 ай бұрын
Robyn was the driver pure and simple because her son was going to school there. She never intended IMO to live in the polygamist fashion with any of these women. She got the house she wanted knowing the other wives could never crowd her. She got the big expensive house she wanted paid for by everyone else. If her son wanted to move after college they had a house and land worth lots of cash and they could simply follow the son wherever he tried to go. I thought they would be prohibited from building due to a wetland restriction (the occasional big puddle). With current laws I don’t think they could even build vacation cabins on that land due to its topography.
@BellaB4113 ай бұрын
And they call it “reality” tv.😂
@donnaatboogaloobuys53813 ай бұрын
If the value of coyote pass has increased since buying it, I believe Kody and Robyn were planning to eventually sell it and try to own as much of the shares as possible in order to profit the most. He and Robyn somehow now own the most so Janelle snd Meri will get money but not that much as the 2 scammers will. Trust me, they have this all planned out. I honestly wish Christine has sold Janelle her portion for $1.
@loriherbst70433 ай бұрын
I’ve got to go with Hanlon’s razor “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity”
@MollysMom53 ай бұрын
Didn't any of the o.g. 3 READ the r.e. documents before signing them?! Janelle, of all people, should have known better!! 🤦♀️
@patsyjayson85033 ай бұрын
Sobin stand on your head so we can see your smile! 🙃
@dianewells43423 ай бұрын
YES !!!! Crybrows has a permanent frown ! Lmbo !!!!
@user-yk7mn3cu1r3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bathos223 ай бұрын
18 seasons of Sister Wives pushing a lie that they were happy being one of many for an abusive man. Critics saw through the charade, which the show only served to confirm.
@cindyhackett60863 ай бұрын
It was totally premeditated!
@kellycampbell68263 ай бұрын
If i was Janelle & Mary i would want to get my name off that property.
@das10133 ай бұрын
But I doubt Kody has the cash to buy off their half or third of the plot(s) with their names on them and most importantly, he doesn't want them to get a cent of "my & Robyn's" money.
@bsrk31703 ай бұрын
They were dumb enough to marry Kody Brown. What do you expect?
@marymasiakowski50423 ай бұрын
Thank you for all of the information that you dig for. I know that we all appreciate the hard work ❤
@WithoutACrystalBall3 ай бұрын
So nice of you
@WithoutACrystalBall3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@evabridgeforth10763 ай бұрын
Looks like they trusted Kody and he bamboozled them. Hopefully they can find an investor to sell it to
@kiimmig22933 ай бұрын
Maybe Kody’s plan was to start a business of his own? Or should I say A Front for his own little side business? I don’t think his ocean of lies has a bottom, because his delusion of grandeur defies logic.
@missybee70573 ай бұрын
I always wondered and wanted to see his reaction to a prank of buzzing his hair off with clippers. I think it’d be EPIC!!!
@Lady.Scorpio73 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Like they do to people on Jackass!!
@vanessas.68933 ай бұрын
They should cancel this show. Alĺ of it is a lie.
@user-yk7mn3cu1r3 ай бұрын
Janelle is full of it ! She's a licensed realtor, and has worked outside the home for years . She's no babe in the woods 😂 Janelle enjoys a lazy life, easier to go along or play dumb.
@shayshaymann1133 ай бұрын
Is this why Kody was so bent out of shape when Janell moved out of the duplex and bought an RV?
@cathyspiller71543 ай бұрын
Sounds about right. Lie after lie.
@trishconklin26623 ай бұрын
I don't care about the lies, but I do care about the constant disruption to their children's lives. Watching these episodes about the move gave me so much anxiety. This poor family was at the mercy of this horribly misguided "head of the family". He's the last person any of them should follow and the amount of money that they were drained of so that Robyn could be near her son is a crime, not to mention what the kids experienced from being uprooted by this maniac.
@anngladstone91303 ай бұрын
My bet would be Kody bought the land thinking he could get the zoning changed. Probably lied to the OG wives that it could be easily changed so they'd put their money in. As time went on, it was too late to do anything about it. I'd also bet Mary would have thrown a bigger fit about her smaller portion had it been worth anything.
@marthaosburn-henry10873 ай бұрын
Good research work! Thanks for sharing with us. 🌻👍🌻
@simonnekeller41073 ай бұрын
I don’t know why people still watch. It’s slow moving, not much content and all lies. I only listen to commentary on them in hopes that Robyn and Kody lose everything. 🤷♀️
@lolazzzaz3 ай бұрын
In the episode where Meri said she was leaving and going to live at the B&B permanently, she said it was still her intention to build on Coyote Pass. Is it possible that what she intended to build was a cabin for revenue? Were Janelle’s greenhouses meant to be commercial green houses?
@twovirginiacats37533 ай бұрын
No. Just blowing wind.
@SgtTibbsmama3 ай бұрын
Very good research. It really looks like junk land
@WindTurbineSyndrome3 ай бұрын
No infrastructure no water sewer electric no road ... It is very dry in Flagstaff and if no water well how would get water? My friend lived in Eastern Flag going to NAU bought a horse ranch outside of town. Flag has tourism but not great economy. Have to go down a steep canyon road to get to Sedona. Rte I-40 goes thru on way to Kingman..
@pamdixon30523 ай бұрын
So they ALL lied
@juliearnold58323 ай бұрын
If I were one of the OG3 and I had been lied to about this property and didn’t know that I would never be able to build a house on it, I would do everything I could to sue Kody and Robyn.
@LisaC.-mebugyou3 ай бұрын
Just goes to show the complete and utter selfishness of Robyn and Kody , which leads one to infer upon their complete narcissism and complete lack of respect or empathy for anyone else
@winnowmethis95013 ай бұрын
If all of this was done for a "story line" and TLC was aware, this is pretty damn bad. Even Janelle living in the RV on the property, in my opinion, I see, at the very least as liability on the part of TLC. Janelle still owing a monthly payment on the RV and having it in storage? TLC should compensate her. Couldn't build on the property and TLC new it? TLC should take responsibility as that production company would have 'participated' in a fallacy and misrepresentation, whether the Brown's went along with it or not. In my view culpability there. It seems from everything reported/documented on the show, the move to Flagstaff was initiated by Robyn for her son. Were the Browns in financial straights in Las Vegas? There, they owned homes. Did TLC go to the Browns and say, we have a story line and instead of each of them purchasing a home in Flagstaff, they entered into this purchase of property that could not be built on for the sake of the show and put ALL of them at financial risk. Just questions.
@cheryld17103 ай бұрын
I think they had mortgages that had balloon payments coming due in LV and they couldn’t make the payments.
@bugsy29023 ай бұрын
No I'm sure this was all Kody & Robyn's idea. Remember he needed to move and save money for "their" kids and his future and before all the wives houses were in their names now he has all the land and houses in his name!
@winnowmethis95013 ай бұрын
@@bugsy2902 Chrystal Ball's research is excellent on this matter. Regardless of all the underhandedness of Kody and Robyn, TLC still has come culpability in my opinion. They don't get a pass on this.
@winnowmethis95013 ай бұрын
@@meggie423 True! Another layer to this. What does that say? Wool being pulled on every front! Your comment made me laugh! Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!
@judithbutler96953 ай бұрын
Is there any accountability????
@hs51673 ай бұрын
You couldn’t rent a broken down double wide in Flagstaff for less than $2500/month, six years ago. Flagstaff, Payton, Snow Flake, Show Low, were expensive 10 years ago before prices became crazy.
@midnightmoon35503 ай бұрын
They all use the same lawyer. Id say that the women just signed after being told it was all good and papers were prepared. That they didnt know about not being able to build or live there. and Kody kept stalling and stalling then when Janelle started on her own she and christine found out the truth
@Alysia.in.Wonderland3 ай бұрын
Katie Joy always brings the facts 🙌
@WithoutACrystalBall3 ай бұрын
thank you so much for your support!
@autumn70313 ай бұрын
I always suspected Robyn's motives on this property. IMO she Never intended on 'community living' with the other women because this devious chick wanted to be the head wife period. I kind of figured she went along with the purchase yes maybe, to fit the storyline, but knowing her own agenda she assumed one day it would all be hers or at the very least, once sold, she would be entitled to a profit. I don't believe she ever intended to build on it. She blew into the family with the intent to take over, she never respected the other women. The 3 women are a let down IMO because this pathetic show has obviously taken precedence over filing suit against the two grifting liars; Kody/Robyn! How do the 3 women not look at this objectively at this point and realize not being married on paper they never would have the right to any equity of any assets!? Kody and Robyn played them hard, the women should have dragged their asses across the courtroom floor by now, but Nope! Reality tv and social media means more to people than doing the right thing for themselves. Idiots. All of them. I hope tlc implodes.
@elisamerced3 ай бұрын
Maybe thats why Jannel wanted a casita with a greenhouse.. maybe make it a bussiness
@reneehawley11913 ай бұрын
OMG Katie. Again, you’re a fantastic investigative reporter. Kody seems to just use this purchase for a story. Another lie which is his narcissistic behavior. Janelle must not have fully understood cause she wouldn’t have wasted money on a floor plan
@debs111003 ай бұрын
So true!
@MollysMom53 ай бұрын
So much for Janelle being the "smart, business-savvy" wife. 🤷♀️
@Niajam773 ай бұрын
Janelle is foolish
@Kimberly-r9p3 ай бұрын
Scam from day one when the land was pushed . Robyn and Kody new what they were doing. To get the Robyn mansion she wanted.
@cheryld17103 ай бұрын
Since day 1 of this show, all five of these people gave lied to us all. They should all be ashamed! Too bad you can’t charge them with fraud!
@das10133 ай бұрын
I got Robyn's "NYTimes Bestseller" (Becoming Sister WIves) out of the library again. It starts with Kody saying his home was in Wyoming. A few pages later he says he came "home" to Utah (!?) from his 2-yr mission. His father & sister who knew Meri still lived in Wyoming. There was no mention of it, but I started to wonder if his mother had taken a break and was living in Utah and that is why he and his sister were there so often. The unexplained contradictory things the 5 of them say in the show & book always leave me confused.
@stephaniesands1193 ай бұрын
I want to know if the adult kids knew anything about this
@janetjenkins26743 ай бұрын
I'm sure Garrison knew and couldn't live with the lies anymore. Mykelti is so wishy washy in her loyalty. Poor Gabe and the rest just wanted their dads love
@stephaniesands1193 ай бұрын
@janetjenkins2674 I could see how Garrison witnessing his mother being taken advantage of would really take a toll on him, but I don't want to speculate. He's not around to answer 💔
@christinethemommy60943 ай бұрын
I think it’s easy to forget that this family didn’t originally have money. That the lifestyle they’ve become accustomed to, isn’t the lifestyle this family was created on and lived a long time. Therefore, once you remember this, you understand just how easily it was for them to make poor financial decisions. Fame and wealth came fast, but Kody had no idea what to do with it but buy-buy-buy! I think he heard that investments is how wealth grows, so he invested. Not understanding that GOOD investments is how wealth grows. It’s really easy to make one or two poor investment choices and end up in a bad way again. Typically people obtain someone to handle their money, did they not do this?
@Laurie-zy5rp3 ай бұрын
Obviously not
@annemariepeterhoff72613 ай бұрын
All of them lied from the start! Even after the tragedy of Garrisons suicide the show must go on for profit of all involved! It is sickening in my opinion.
@KimLucas-xh9wv3 ай бұрын
I think we are giving Kody to much credit... I don't think he had any idea the land was useless. I think the original property owner found a dumb ass to pawn off the worthless land. He was probably laughing all the way to the bank. They all got screwed!!!
@marisa_4253 ай бұрын
That explains why he wanted to build a barndominium for Meri to live in. Because he thought it would get approved.