The Detroit Pistons are in a terrible timeloop

[@matthewhinton2960]

You know it’s rough when Kofie references the twilight zone episode. First baseball, now this

[@stblanco516]

I was about to ask if I was in the twilight zone because I swore Kofie said this once before

[@future62]

I'm imagining Kofie dressed as Henry the 8th getting the alert on his phone and dropping a turkey leg 😂😂😂

[@MargoGuryanFan1]

Bro hahahahha

[@noisepuppet]

MVP of comments section

[@Veishan]

"We're the White Walkers of the NBA: already dead, but somehow still moving around" Ouch

[@shaanalam3872]

That was brutal im ngl

[@thenbajunkie]

The Pistons last first overall pick before Cade was Bob Lanier in 1970.

[@Carsdn01]

Detroit is genuinely cursed. Even my cursed hornets had #1 in the 90’s. Haven’t had 1st in 34 years but we’ve actually drafted pretty well with the picks we’ve had

[@ShaunhanM]

6 nba teams have never had the first overall pick, the last Kings first overall pick was in 1989. A drought like that isnt that rare

[@sullyproductions5757]

@@ShaunhanMsome teams like Cleveland and Minnesota just get lucky

[@sheistybossman]

The worst thing is that not only Detroit doesn't even get a top 3 pick AGAIN despite being geniunely bad and not tanking on purpose, but Atlanta who didn't even try to tank and was mid at best got the number one pick. That's peak Pistons luck in a nutshell. We're all with you, Kof, your vids are so quality, never change your simplistic, yet chilly style. 👊

[@PvtFlowers]

"luck"

[@sheistybossman]

​@@PvtFlowers That's what I mean, they have none 😬

[@PvtFlowers]

@@sheistybossman there's no luck involved in carnival games.

[@KennethChristian-f1k]

From the league’s perspective you could see them rewarding the Hawks for fighting for the play-in each year, whereas the Pistons are being punished for having an unwatchable team (rival superstars sitting when they come to Detroit).

[@deborahburks6562]

The pistons was not tanking. That is why the NBA won't give them the number one pick because they think they are. And that is not true. The GM is the problem here he don't know what he is doing. And the pistons did not help their case by losing all them games in a roll. And there is no way the lottery ball came up 3 time for the pistons to get the numbers five picks three times in a roll. That impossible. The NBA just give them the number 5 pick. Because they think they are tanking. The pistons was just bad. Because of the GM. They need to go back doing the lottery in front of everybody. Not behind close door. They 😊even wanted the Spurs to get the French guys the last lottery. They was never going to give him to anybody but the Spurs.😂

[@travistrack923]

I had to google the last 1st pick they ever had....1970 Bob Lanier. That's ridiculous

[@peternguyen2908]

On paper, this team is worse now than it was last year lol.

[@Jamar-lg9ob]

Cade

[@travistrack923]

@@Jamar-lg9ob he said the 1st pick prior to Cade.

[@Jamar-lg9ob]

@@travistrack923 you said last first pick

[@alextoschi2242]

@@Jamar-lg9ob They are referencing what Kofie said in the video, did you bother watching it? Kofie point blank told people to look up the last first pick AFTER Cade.

[@sussvarman]

from a Toronto resident and Raptors fan, i feel for all of you deeply and wish for a brighter future for both of us. probably just the Canadian in me though.

[@Mrdonjuliothewicked]

This is the curse for how Pistons fan treated Blake Griffin.

[@strangebirdfilms]

in between "draft" and "trades" is DEVELOPMENT. A team like Denver isn't good just because they drafted Jokic & Murray... they actually gave both those guys time to become what they are today, which then makes winning a trade a lot easier, because youre trading to strengthen a weakness instead of trading to find a foundation. This is how Andrew Wiggins can go from being a bust in Minn to a key piece of a championship team in GS. Same player, different organization. To me, the recurring commonality among bad teams is lack of overall identity due to volatility in the front office, coaching & roster turnover.

[@Ram-zc4fi]

this exactly. getting this many top picks and striking out consistently is indicative of the higher ups. as a Hornets fan, seeing the move on from the Jordan era and seeing how we're becoming more competent is crazy

[@Spacegose]

The problem isn’t really missing out on pick 1 even. We could never bank on that. It’s just been the fact that we’ve fallen almost as far as we could for 4 of the years around the Cade year. If we had just fallen to 3 or 4 those three years, we’d have a shot at guys that fit better with the roster. Instead we’ve been taking BPA, and these guys just don’t fit together. The system isn’t allowing us to get out of the gutter. Part of it has been drafting, but we generally took what was thought to be the right guy at 5 the last two years.

[@joeydirt69]

this team has killed my love for basketball

[@chez0102]

The Knicks haven't moved up since the Ewing draft in 1985 I don't want to hear it lol

[@jtizzle124]

Yeah but that lottery was “rigged” so we’ll never hear the end of it

[@MargoGuryanFan1]

Oooooof

[@joshthoughts6177]

I feel for you man, there is nothing worse as a fan then feeling like your team is extremely poorly run. When informed fans can see obvious blunders made by a franchise they support its horrible, I’ve been there.

[@orionthomas967]

It’s been pretty grim as a Pistons fan. Since 08, it’s been one kinda fun team in ‘16 that got swept and the Blake Griffin year in 18 that also got swept lmao.

[@kdinero19]

RIP Kofie

[@alanrascon6069]

Sorry for you as a wiz fan, it's tough but you some how made me feel better. Hope you have a healthy season.

[@gvlgw]

As a Spurs fan I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers bro and hopefully you’ll get Cooper Flagg next year.

[@mlmiles1]

Go Spurs Go!

[@MarcusStiffarm]

We won’t we’ll get 5th again

[@JD_Walker]

Knicks fan here, I feel you. We’ve been through the same cycle of hell for 20+ years. The 20 years of incompetence made me stop caring about the team and eventually the whole NBA. (I’m a college ball fan but even that is a mess now in its own right). Kofie, do you have an opinion on Jared Rhoden? I watched him regularly at Seton Hall and was hoping he would get more minutes with the Pistons since they’re so bad but he’s been back and forth to G League. Does he need to go somewhere else for a chance or is he just not that good like a “4A” type of player?

[@mediocrepolk5047]

Did some research on the last pistons number 1 pick after Cade. 1970 Bob Lanier was the last time the pistons had a number one pick after cade. Nearly 60 years.

[@ooblz]

im sorry man.

[@MrKennyWilliams]

To answer Kofi's Question on the Last 1st overall before Cunngingham. It was in 1970 40+ YEARS

[@ollytropics1735]

Tbh as a warriors fan i find the pistons an interesting team tbh id be very willing to dump some contracts for picks and a young guy. Like if theyd take it id give them GP2, Wiggins, Moody the two hawks seconds and the warriors 2026 first in exchang for two seconds. The pistons get some decent vets a winning young guy in moody and draft capital

[@gromsgaming1256]

It sucks because I want Cade to succeed and do well but I have a hard time seeing him doing it in Detroit.

[@Jswann6]

Bro, I dont even like the Piston but I like watching you talk about them lol Coming from a Wizards/Bullets fan, our time will come!

[@OldToasted]

Lmao the first 15 seconds has me rolling, great video 😂🍻

[@HashtagWhattaNerd]

The only issue with Cade’s malleability is that we have chosen BPA only over and over with no cohesion. Cade likes to go slow, Ivey is a fast break guy. Duren plays his best, I think, with Ivey. I don’t even mind if a GM fails to build a winner, but the idea that his strategy is “draft until it works” drives me crazy

[@xTrueBalla03x]

Pistons front office only working banking hours

[@MrTonyJ]

Before Cade the last time we moved up was Darko.

[@JaredGoofball]

This is the exact thing that happened to the red wings when they were really bad. Season after season with high odds of the 1st overall pick but falling out of the top 3 year after year. The Lottery hates Detroit

[@andrewfowens]

I think the lottery system is great in how it punishes tanking. I probably would still change it to favor the worst teams a bit more. The worst team in the NBA should have a higher than 52% chance at a top 4 pick. Pistons getting the 4th pick 3 years in a row still wouldn't be a reward but might recognize how bad the team was.

[@nba_mixz_can7820]

Doing an all Jalen team and putting them in the nba and see how well they would do would be a good video

[@gugga2745]

im playing detroit in the 2nd round of the playoff in my mycareer rn while watching this.

[@MonsieurBooyah]

Yay a kofie video! ... Oh no, he's sad again

[@knightdehumidifier]

I saw that post of you reacting to the draft lottery at the ren faire. Looked like you're about to drop the hottest track of the summer.

[@noisepuppet]

I grew up far away from Detroit but in a place where we had decades of terrible to horrible sports teams, with occasional bright spots of bad to mediocre. This is how a real fan base is made. Anyone who sticks it out through this? I'm telling you.

[@Enzo-xi2cm]

To be fair, if u think it’s been a long time since u got a first overall pick: imagine how the hawks felt

[@thewordkeeper]

Lol. I've been referencing The Pistons rotations as Twilight Zone lineups for the past 6 months.

[@theredguy92]

Never forget the Charlotte Bobcats had the worst winning percentage in NBA history with only 7 wins during the lockout shortened season. For their futility they were rewarded with Michael Kidd Gilchrist. The guy whose jumpshot resembled but was still less accurate than, a medieval catapult.

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

The Pistons didn't even get the 5th pick until 2022. Now they've had it 3 years in a row! They did manage to snag Joe Dumars at 18 and Rodman in the 2nd round, so they could always find some great guys buried in the draft. Hope they do that now!

[@ShowtimeZbo]

7:17 you dont want the onwer involved

[@jerms99]

i just want to hug bro 😔

[@ma1ist]

Def starts with ownership. Look how bad the raptors were during the 2000s. Ownership changed in the mid 2010s and they targeted actually competing.

[@H41030v3rki110ny0u]

Yoooo i was at a ren faire on sunday too, good stuff lol

[@KennethChristian-f1k]

May as well go out and get one of the cheap/unwanted former stars (Lavine, Beal), won’t make the play-in but at least Cade will have someone who can make a jumper to pass to and it’s not as though tanking has worked. If you can get a pick or two back in the process even better.

[@AlexCereal]

Both of those contracts are horrendous

[@adamtrudeau5606]

I liked the Twilight Zone reference. Makes perfect sense!

[@mlmiles1]

need to know more about the renaissance fair...

[@revan5293]

As a suns fan that’s exactly why we got ride if monty

[@Crystar500]

For anyone curious, the last time Detroit had a #1 pick before Cade Cunninghma was in 1970, where they selected Bob Lanier. Pretty good choice, since he spent 10 seasons with Detroit and averaged 22 and 11. But yeah, not much luck with that.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

Still the team had an identity and an extremely competent FO and coaching team. Come the Dumars era, good coaching and bad to awful FO. And now awful everything

[@c9manic959]

The worst part is, we weren't even tanking. We're just that bad. Like they disincentivize tanking by shuffling up the odds, and its just going to keep us in the same shitty doldrums. The very mechanisms that they put in place to keep teams from being bad on purpose, are keeping accidentally shitty teams shit year after year.

[@quintupleovertime]

Yo that’s one of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes

[@ross2662]

The second I checked tankathon that night and saw pistons got 5 my first thought was KOFIE NOOOOO

[@elroiy2139]

You think it get to the point they move the team?

[@CenkZappa]

The Knicks haven't had a #1 pick since Patrick Ewing in 1985 😬

[@lhfirex]

All I've heard about this year's draft is that it isn't even a particularly good one. So that probably means all of the top 5 picks wind up being HOFers.

[@NoRealRsn]

As a lifelong pistons fan this shit is actually bizarre. Continuously hiring incompetent people to do a job, making terrible trades, playing the wrong players...it's mind boggling how unserious this NBA team and it's ownership. This org is making me lose faith and just become a Cade fan

[@TheLimeJuicy]

Are you gonna do a “where do the clippers go from here?”

[@punchy5668]

The city of Detroit is angry! Why tf do we keep getting fucked yes bring the worst teams means we get the 5th pick is idiotic and I’m tired of the lottery

[@vinspad3]

The Dobber himself, Bob Lanier was our last number 1 i think.

[@Matthew-cc4xt]

bruh, my Kings only got a #1 pick in 1989 and got Pervis Ellison. Our recent #2 pick was Marvin Bagley. You all are doing fine by comparison. Is kinda ridiculous how yall keep falling to 5th though. I don't think the Rockets really need more high picks.

[@jtizzle124]

If you look at the all time lottery movement for NBA franchises the Kings are at a +1. The Pistons are a -8 all time, my Knicks are a -13, and the Timberwolves are a -16 just for some perspective.

[@DonSMDT]

You have a 48% chance to fall to 5 with #1 odds

[@TheFusionmix]

At least the Hurricanes decided to make Kofie's day a little brighter.

[@Jal2446]

its probably like going through the David Fizdale knicks of 2018-2019, and playing that season on rewind 4 years in a row, they tanked and had the league's worst record ended up with the 3rd pick. Pick 1 - Zion Pick 2 - Ja Pick 3 - rj barrett yuck, you should be thankful to have Cade, at least Cade shows improvement every season.

[@prymates]

Lottery system is just a way for the nba to cook the books. Ya'll had no chance once people started pushing the Trae Young to Spurs narrative. Maybe yall get Ace Bailey next year.

[@kapowjam3462]

This is all really rough. I'm sorry pistons.

[@hamiltopia5]

Come to the right side. Become a wizards fan, you know it’s better over here 😏

[@igit_7296]

I trade for Ben Simmons, who is a former All-Star. He is still a very good rebounder and defensive player, and I think the Pistons could use some of that.

[@scottwickett1273]

He's retired.

[@ki2726]

Most poverty ridden organization in all of sports.

[@scottwickett1273]

That's what happens when you continue to employ the shittiest GM who has ever lived.

[@Defort-jd8xe]

„Lottery system does not favor us“ Somebody has issues with simple statistics. It gives you a better CHANCE at a high pick. A CHANCE you donut. It doesnt guarantee anything. Thats why tanking stopped working. Somebody needs to tell this to this complete joke of a fanbase.

[@KennyFrierson]

you see all the other bad teams (not the wizards) like blazers hornets and spurs and they've made trades signed people have maybe a plan for the next season

[@dariusbrooks21]

I had a feeling in my we would get five again

[@paultizzard2864]

Fun facts. Cade had the tenth highest usage percentage and fifth highest assist percentage in the whole league last season. His assist percentage was ahead of lebron. What does this say? To me it says he has the ball too much and is getting assists cause players r getting the ball with less than 10 seconds on the shot clock consistently. He's way too ball dominant. His usage percentage was on par with curry like thats insane. However it begs the question who else should have the ball? Ivey i guess but even then. If a player has to have the ball that long u have to do a Luka or lebron style team building and do spacers, defenders and lob threats around them. My whole point to all this is Cade has the ball way too much, but the front office has done a terrible job too. Its just all screwed at pistons HQ really.

[@LogicOverEverything]

Look at it this way, bro: Atlanta is definitely gonna mess this pick up, somehow.

[@ethanjackson7963]

Why is this going up at 3am

[@Rcurtis777]

How the hell did the hawks get the #1 pick

[@wanderlustwarrior]

"Hi, I'm here for the -interview- draft lottery!"

[@mochabean5692]

Nice Twilight Zone reference

[@nineteenct]

It’s such a tragedy man

[@mlmiles1]

white walkers of the NBA!!! HAHAHA Man, you make misery seem humorous!

[@Jiddy12345]

Shout out one time to my dude Rocky Valentine

[@billding6032]

I love a Twilight Zone reference

[@Mrgiftedsoul]

for starters it’s on the organization to develop the players look at all these stars that aren’t top 5 (SGA) Giannis jokic booker Jalen Brunson and out of all the #1 picks only maybe 11 of them have lived up to their potential and the pistons development of young players is probably the worst in the league the 1 pick doesn’t deserve to be in Detroit and 5 is not bad KG Charles Barkley Trae young and Vince carter were. All picked 5th so crying about the wrong thing isn’t going to help it’s the front office fault they are in this position

[@ICouldNever]

Will do a push-up for each like this comment gets

[@jordylont1879]

k

[@BlckPollen]

You will cancel out those push ups for ever like this comment gets

[@Hiyaaydi]

You buff yet?

[@viewtifulnovanorman9059]

Drop drop drop drop

[@ItsMaceo]

Like 107. I’ll match you up to this 💪🏾. Already sore as hell. LETS GO!

[@1digidude]

The NBA draft system has killed my love for basketball, and fuck San Antonio they don’t deserve Wemby

[@mileswilliams5810]

To be fair they kinda killed it Duran Ivey Thompson so I mean it’s sucks but yall have drafted right

[@sam-qw3rl]

BOB LANIER?!!

[@incognitomosquito3120]

How long does a team have to tank before it becomes "you aren't tanking you just suck" Asking for a friend who is convinced "tanking" is the excuse losers like to fall back on

[@willspann9894]

Well said........

[@bigfellamike1913]

It shouldn't surprise us that Ivey can't play next to cade lol that was always a TERRIBLE pick if no coach was going to let Ivey play the PG, he's NOT an NBA 2 guard.

[@connorrussell2084]

I'm sorry Kofie, but we've all waiting for this video to drop

[@pheonixblue9434]

At least next year u could go down only to the 4th pick😂😂😂

[@davidkelley3528]

Time to tank for cooper flagg!

[@AKWuzHere]

Hope y'all trade that pick to Memphis

[@keeganryan7481]

At least Pistons fans have some rings to flex...Blazers only got one.

[@jacobtoms3018]

Charlotte fans 🤝 Detroit fans We need to fix the draft

[@scottwickett1273]

There is nothing wrong with the draft. The Pistons problem is having the very worst GM in the history of the sport, and....the Hornets seem to have upgraded on that front!

[@Ram-zc4fi]

Pistons love getting a top 5 pick and picking the same archetype project dude that can't shoot

[@ftwsam2246]

Calm down, they're all roll players anyway 😭

[@mileswilliams5810]

Incoming Bradley Beal

[@jordancourtney9142]

Rob Dillingham you are a Detroit piston

[@QW22312]

This is Karma for hating on Doc Rivers.

[@movewithpurpose]

DRAFT BRONNY AND HOLD THE LEAGUE HOSTAGE.