New Balance FuelCell Rebel v4

[@nathaniel23946]

For me hearing that it’s wider is better since Rebel 3 is narrow for me. Thanks for the review Kofuzi! I can’t wait to try it on. 😊

[@kofuzi]

wider can mean two things: fit or footprint fit: this shoe came in wide sizing for v3. footprint: widening the footprint tends to make a shoe more stable and less speedy

[@JonathanSanders458]

​​@@kofuzifrom your review it sounds like it got wider in both respects?

[@nathaniel23946]

Yes, definitely. Sorry Kofuzi, I meant to say the fit. Even though V3 came in 2E, It was still narrow for me, hopefully this time around it's a little bit wider! I'm crossing my fingers on it! @@kofuzi

[@BoLTaGeScOpeR]

Between rebel 4, novablast 4 and Bondi 8 which one do you recommend to a beginner ?? It's going to be my first running shoe

[@sheltonshots]

"Dropping a coin in some pudding." That's why AI will never replace us.

[@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365]

@falchion3568 Way too much "effort", Poindexter...........

[@christiandm1041]

I really like last year's as well. Listening now to your take on this...on we go...

[@shanjitkumar108]

yo I'm your new subscriber because of good knowledge you gave us to a variety of best and compatible running shoes

[@cubanboi2429]

Thinking of using these as my daily trainers along with my Hoka rincon 3s

[@mad8298]

Such a different perspective than other reviewers I have seen. Many, if not most, loved the changes made in the v.4 and did not like the v.3. I haven't loved the v.3 either. My preference was the v.2. Anyway, I won't buy another v.3, so hopefully the v.4 works for me. Thanks for the review and your advice on sizing.

[@kofuzi]

I anticipate that if you liked the v2 and didn't like v3, you will not like v4. but give it a try for yourself.

[@ameerjie01]

I really love this kind of review..keep it up

[@kristof165]

Your description of your running experience reminds me of how I felt with the Asics GlideRide 3. Would you compare these shoes to each other?

[@kofuzi]

my first reaction is to say no (the glideride is a bit more controlling with the center channel), but there is some similarity in the way the foam responds where the comparison does make some sense

[@Eirikkinserdal]

When it's mostly eva(80%) it would be a eva/peba blend, not peba/eva. It's silly when they use all peba in sc elite 4 😅

[@piotrwoz]

So I guess that this version is upgrade in terms of look but not performance comparing to Rebel V3 (which I love for bounce). I thought that this will be real upgrade...

[@TheHuskyRunner]

Luckily for me I am not about speed (yet). Looking for something to pair with my SC Trainer V2 and More V4…looking at the or the NovaBlast…don’t know if I want to keep it in the family or branch out.

[@kofuzi]

both are great options. try them both on and see which one you like best

[@albertteng1191]

I find the rebel v3 too squishy and not enough response just like the sc elite v3, i like the feel of the new rebel v4 better. The version feels more like a running shoe if you will, i can run faster, more bounce.

[@-Liyash-]

Is the rebel v4 suitable for heel strikers?

[@jasonpoblete1699]

Getting back into running after 10 years...looking for a cruiser with bounce to increase the "fun" factor and keep me interested in running. FC rebel V4 or Novablast 4?

[@kofuzi]

Both are great. I’d go with the novablast

[@AlwaysHaveABackUpPlan]

Which has a more softer midsole sc elite v4 or rebel v4?

[@sherwinroeger6634]

Please compared the rebel v4 and Takumi Sen 10 which one is best.

[@kofuzi]

For what purpose? I see these as two different shoes for two different kinds of running. Rebel is a daily trainer Takumi is a 5k/10k racing shoe

[@yashpa]

looks more like Adizero SL design.

[@B1gC4st]

So I guess I'm not buying this. I really wish we get back to tempo...Rebel v1 was so good.

[@Chungdol]

Adidas FuelCell Rebel v4* sorry, I could not resist...

[@kofuzi]

I feel like so many people are looking at pictures on line and making the comparison but when you see them in person, you will feel very different

[@Chungdol]

@@kofuzi I fually agree on your review, we were able to test this version in autumn on the preorder, all their changes make sense on paper. But thats it. I look forward for your NB SC elite v4 review, that is a very interessting peace of shoe. I also would like to see some Li-Ning reviews from you if you don't mind this personal approach. I run since years in the feidian challenger and Elite and they are just amaaaazing, completly under the radar, maybe too hard to get in the west.

[@macfin4862]

Anyone taking this to a marathon?

[@lethtyr]

First :*

[@kofuzi]

yo

[@nettenstudios1414]

i love you.

[@kofuzi]

I know

[@Martin-kc1xj]

So does NB have a tempo / speed day, non-plated shoe? I thought that was the Rebel's spot... or is it that this market is a dead end because people want a plate in their tempo / threshold shoe? I have a V3 and it doesn't inspire me to do easy runs at all... it's way too tempting to pick up the pace and have fun (hence the name!). Does the V4 kind of kill that?

[@kofuzi]

I always thought so too, but discussions with New Balance have insisted otherwise I look forward to the updates to the SC Pacer

[@hamoudalnasser]

aren't the 880 and 1080 NBs daily trainers? @@kofuzi

[@SpecialFX99]

I agree with both of these comments. If the rebel isn't the faster trainer then what is? And with the 880 and 1080 why do we need the rebel as another daily trainer?

[@lexington476]

We will deal with your rebel friends soon enough. -Grand Moff Tarkin

[@laalaa99stl]

Disappointed to hear that the progressive boring-ification of daily trainers continues. I was mostly concerned with how much more fragile peba is, but to hear you describe it as pudding-y is not encouraging. I'd still be interested in your 100 mile review. Now looking forward to your Elite V4 review. I think it's a huge step backwards aesthetically from the V3 (with the stylized bird wing logos), but maybe that just means I'll be able to get V3 at a great price.

[@laalaa99stl]

They should relabel FuelCell to FC 2.0 to warn people.

[@kofuzi]

I feel like everyone loved peba but complained way way too much about a lack of durability, and so they "fixed" it. we did this to ourselves

[@GriffRunning]

@@kofuziyep. Careful what you wish for.

[@mattscott4382]

I love the geometric design.

[@kofuzi]

I do too. I just wish it had gotten just taller and not taller and wider

[@edwinduisburg8138]

I have a friend who got this shoe recently he had similar problem with weight. His shoes not only was heavier than official stats but also there was a weight difference between the pairs (20grams). He weighed them right out of the box.

[@snowwalker9999]

Rebel V3 and Novablast 3. Still great shoes and deals for 2024.

[@kofuzi]

yup

[@hamoudalnasser]

I wish they let you buy from the American online site in Canada. So many v3s available, even in wide fit.

[@snowwalker9999]

@@hamoudalnasser they won’t. You’ll have to cross the border. Some boutiques in Canada still carry them. You just have to find them

[@andrewfeher224]

Thanks for the insightful review. I'll stick with my Rebel v3.

[@mouahmong]

I would say doing speed work in the New Balance SC Pacer v1 would make more sense than the Adidas. Usually people that gravitate towards NB need the more accommodating fit vs the extremely narrow through the entire foot Adidas.

[@cgazlan]

I love the rebel v3. I bought the second pair of the v3 just after running in the first one at 10km as I feel so much fun running in it. I don't know what the complain about the foam in the v3. 🤷‍♂️

[@JonQuite]

Thanks for the honest thoughts re weight, bulk and general midsole feel. Loving the v3's midsole so much that I might be nudged to step over to the Deviate Nitro 2 rather than the Rebel v4. Demo'd the Pumas and they and the Rebel v3 almost seemed related.

[@JonQuite]

Also interesting to see the Rebel kinda folded in to the SC line - looks like there’s continuity from the Rebel up thru the SC Trainer > SC Elite. I kinda liked that the Rebel existed on its own in the past, but was looking forward to it finding its place in the flagship training-racing lineup. Now I’m not so sure, if it’s gonna be put into a chonker daily role.

[@RunLikeHeller]

You make some good points!! I had issues with the fit too

[@kofuzi]

not a huge deal for me, but a rare miss from New Balance in terms of the fit here. it's a bit confusing.

[@QronoZ713]

@@kofuzi as someone who has fitted 100s of people in newbalance's, it's not a rare miss. NB is consistently off in sizing between pairs, models lines and versions. 880v11-13 fit 0,5 small, used to be quite wide then became kind of narrow, 1080 fit 0,5 big, same as the RC Elite v2. I recently got to test the 880v14, first time in my life I had to size up to a 12,5 and I have probably tested 60 pairs of shoes last couple years.

[@violetgumibear]

@@kofuzi as someone who has worked for New Balance, shoe sizings are all over the place across every shoe model

[@AliNadem]

yep, even v3 rebel was narrow in midfoot, requiring getting wider, whereas i got normal with v2, size 11@@QronoZ713

[@MojoShock]

Kofuzi, is it safe to say that Fuel Cell has been canceled out? I feel like they went peba with all their shoes in 2024, firming their entire lineup. I love peba, but i also like the bounce and squish of Fuel Cell. The squish is gone 😢

[@kofuzi]

maybe yes maybe no. I don't think fuel cell has been slightly different across shoes within the same year and across the same shoe over different years. it's always been about sensation and not compound, as far as how New Balance seems to characterize FuelCell

[@jimrandlett1600]

That , was one of the best reviews I’ve read, observations backed up by solid ,well spoken examples, bravo!

[@kofuzi]

Thank you

[@soundofenigma]

TL;DR the Rebel line died after V2. V3 and V4 are just an empty shell of what V2 used to be.

[@kofuzi]

I get the sense that there was perhaps a disagreement on vision for what the Rebel was supposed to feel like that was settled between v2 and v3.

[@soundofenigma]

Unfortunately, that vision just killed the line. I had 2 pairs of V2 and had run both to around 500km each and it was one of the best non-plated shoes I’ve ran in, next to my 3 pairs of Superblasts. When I tried V3, I just knew that the Rebel line from then on was just a name and did not live to what it was really intended to be when v1 and v2 were released. Quoting you from your Novablast 4 100-mile review, “Novablast 4 was the good kid but I kept on yearning for the bad kid, which was the Novablast 3”. That perfectly sums up what I want to say about the V3 (and for sure, V4) vs. the V2.

[@RK-MODE]

Run Like Heller also said it was harder to tighten the shoe around the middle of the shoe, like the shoe was a bit too wide. Great review!

[@DZero_Aperture]

I think I'll stick with my rebel v3s. They feel light, squishy and responsive. Feels like if the formula changes the I prob won't dig them as much. Great review as always, cheers!

[@johnmayuga930]

Out of all the daily trainers I tried.. Rebel v3 goated I just copped another pair on Amazon for $64

[@kaylu4984]

Same here, just bought a second pair on sale... Awesome shoe V3

[@tyriksmith9053]

Thank you for sharing. I love you videos and respect your perspective!!!!

[@tomverdich184]

Loved the simplicity of v3. One of the best examples of a lightweight, flexible and fun daily/uptempo trainer. But clearly too 'boring' for the marketing people at NB who needed more stack, 'better' foam etc. Luckily Topo have the Cylcone 2.

[@jd4033]

I agree. The V3 was just a great simple shoe.

[@ynie1]

Great review. I agree with the sentiment on New Balance sizing. I have to go a 1/2 size down, otherwise my feet feel like they're "swimming" in the shoe. At times if I'm wearing thinner socks, I almost want a full size down.

[@JC-rn5tk]

I admit it. I am a Rebel lover. It does look a little clunky with that wide base (sort of Clifton or More v4 like). I like the more nimble look and feel of the previous versions, but will still give this a try at some point.

[@kofuzi]

I think the back half of the shoe (when looking at the bottom of the shoe) looks exactly like the Nimbus 26

[@GarlicOnions]

I just ordered this today. Can't wait to try them on.

[@nana.arifin]

True size or up size likes usual?

[@SpencerReek]

I think this shoe will be perfect for me, I am excited to try it out for sure. But still enjoying my Boston 12 and Novablast 4 for now.

[@OU812B12]

Nice shoe but Nimbus 21 way better. The price value though..

[@OU812B12]

Nimbus 25

[@kofuzi]

Either the Nimbus 21 or 25 are very different types of shoes though. If you are looking for what the Nimbus offers, the Rebel will also disappoint. The inverse is also true: if you want what the Rebel offers, the Nimbus will also disappoint.

[@EricdRealtor]

Love the Phily merch rep. Great seeing you cheer her on at Houston.

[@kofuzi]

I feel like I've known her for a while now, but seeing her on the course was the closest we've gotten to meeting in person

[@macau.friend]

Visually it looks more like an Adidas shoe than a New Balance shoe.

[@jimduyck]

Is this drifting more into Beacon territory if they're firmer now? I've enjoyed the Beacon v1, Tempo v2, and Rebel V2 over the years...I've tended to grab those for what I might would call "fartlek days"...a progression run during the week, or a run that includes some strides in it because they help me practice my up-tempo form without aid, but generally not shoes I'd pick for a structured workout day.

[@RunTommy123]

Thanks for the video. I feel like the Rebel peaked at the V2, minus the easy-rip upper. The over-engineered new upper is too thick for Florida. I feel like NB ruined the Rebel in the same way Skechers ruined the Razor.

[@GriffRunning]

I don’t understand why people can’t see the benefit and what are considered “boring” trainers. Not every shoe needs Peba or a plate to do all of the work for you.

[@blueandwhiteeighttwo]

Touché! People are getting lazier everyday!

[@kofuzi]

I'm not sure I understand this comment. Can you rephrase?

[@GriffRunning]

@@kofuzi Sure. People like to compare current trainers like the Novablast 4 and now this to earlier counterparts, where they were more “fun” because they were more propulsive, yet were unstable even for the most neutral runner and/or had awful durability. It seems like a daily shoe is now “boring” if it doesn’t have a huge risk/reward to running in it, which in my opinion, isn’t what a bread and butter daily trainer is for. I like a daily trainer that makes my feet and legs do the work while protecting them - this makes it so if and when I do put some sort of propulsive shoe on my feet, it will make me run that much better in them because I can put more muscle into them.

[@jp05598]

“All the work for you” is quite the exaggeration, no?

[@yalokim5264]

This is why I quit Pegasus. Dull. What then? Funny, it's the Peg Trail! All of a sudden, this foam works. Winter do it all shoe. For summer time... no good all-arounder. I wish Asics Glideride could come reborn one day.

[@TheValonquar]

Im very excited for DN3 /DNE3. Puma is severely underrated.

[@tkwasik]

Agree,but would be nice if puma be a bit wider - toe box is for very narrow foot

[@chrisgerrardable]

Rough release date?

[@fabsterun]

Actually people quite like the DN2 in the start they didn't wanna try it cause dn1 was not that good. But pretty sure everyone loves it now except for the rocker . Could be a bit better

[@TravelRunner]

Great review, Mike. I've liked NB's fuel cell composition in previous versions of the Rebel. I definitely have to get this shoe on my feet to see if I like the new composition of the foam. I do like the added width, I felt previous versions of the Rebel were just a bit snug.

[@hamoudalnasser]

Previous versions, as with many NB shoes, were available in a wide fit. (at least in North America)

[@MojoShock]

They ruined the Rebel. So disappointing.

[@teniscomciencia]

We bought one pair in Singapure on size 10 and they have 270g! Is this possible???

[@kofuzi]

I don't have enough information to answer this question

[@br_guedes]

Vocês aqui?? hahahahah que daora! abraços, já espero o review de vocês também!!!

[@rainerblessing923]

I miss the first Rebel version. Never tried the newer ones but it sounds they got more boring with each iteration.

[@yalokim5264]

I'm still having one pair in reserve. Just like the Boston⁸ I will keep putting them in rotation. ...and that's not going to be daily running, they'll land on my feet to hit the track.

[@kofuzi]

I really enjoyed v1, but I think my favorite is v3. it was light enough to do everything that v1 could do. the fuelcell had enough cushion to handle long runs. and it fit like a glove.

[@z10joey89]

Tried the rebel v3 but felt there was not enough cushion for heavier runners like me. Is there better cushion on v4 with more stacked height?

[@jeffdorsey85]

I've been a fan of the Rebel since the first version and like the look of this new version, but I'm disappointed that it seems like NB is moving further away from the original design of the Rebel. I don't like how wide this shoe looks to be, and how these shoe companies keep adding more and more stack to shoes. I really liked how the older versions felt so nimble, lower to the ground, and flexible/comfortable without a plate...pretty much a do everything, general purpose running shoe. I've been looking forward to the v4 release since my v3s are falling apart... hopefully these won't disappoint.

[@francoisbouchet9907]

yeah, it feels like while pursuing the "comfiness / stability" race, NB has forgotten the Rebel DNA was a very slick, minimalist and nimble shoe... I would have never imagine a reviewer using the word "cumbersome" to describe a Rebel shoe...!

[@hamoudalnasser]

@@francoisbouchet9907 @jeffdorsey85 it's so frustrating how so many brands are deserting the lightweight, uptempo trainer. The only uptempo trainers left anymore are plated trainers, and I still like to run with lightweight trainers occasionally, Saucony Kinvara is just too harsh for me. NB always had wide fitting options unlike most brands, but now everything is just a day trainer.

[@io-rj6sk]

@@francoisbouchet9907 any modern day shoes that fit the 'slick/minimalist/nimble' shoe?

[@jeffdorsey85]

​@@francoisbouchet9907💯 agree with all of your points! The word cumbersome stood out to me as well 😬...hopefully the SC Pacer will stay true to it's DNA.

[@EfirdStrong]

1 day in… congrats on 36k views. You have come a long ways and it’s awesome to see it paying off with the algorithm!!

[@ifonly4486]

Foam being 80 per cent EVA i don't think it will last very long. Who said EVA was dead !!!!

[@kofuzi]

people are so weird about EVA. like, I can't tell if you're saying that it won't last long because there's so much EVA or if you're saying that because there's _only_ 80% Eva, the peba will be overworked and so the shoe won't last long.

[@ifonly4486]

I meant it won't last long because of the high EVA content. Supercritical tpu as in v3 is more resilient. Maybe they don't want their shoe to last as long ???@@kofuzi

[@faizulzuraimi5393]

How does it compare with the hoka mach 6?

[@roostermiller]

Awsome review. Interesting that NB went with a peba/eva blend vs the TPE or TPU of the previous models. EVA generally is temperature sensitive and hardens up in colder weather. It would be interesting to see if it softens up in a warmer setting like an indoor tredmill session or warmer climate?

[@macfin4862]

Great point

[@vtru2743]

What about vs 1080v13 or deviate nitro 2?

[@prestonbroadus3978]

Stop listening to this guy. Hes ruining your runs

[@Manuel-901]

A good description. Like to Kofuzi from 🇪🇸. A nice monday for everyone.

[@kofuzi]

yo!

[@EzDoesntExist]

that's really beautiful review thanks

[@thecaptainchas2820]

1) Nice repping the Phily merch 2) Now I’m thinking about pudding, so thanks for that. 3) It sounds like the changes for v4 are headed in the right direction for me personally. I’m a fan of the Rebel line, but I found the v3 a bit too soft and it had the tendency to bottom out-and I’m not a big guy. A little bit more solid response in a lightweight trainer sounds like an attractive base day option. Thanks for the review!

[@kofuzi]

I had particularly envisioned dropping a penny in chocolate pudding and having lie flat, Lincoln side up, in an oversized bowl. like a wide bowl that is almost more of a dish than anything else. not sure why I can't shake this image. I keep coming back to it

[@michaeltanel3815]

Mmmm... pudding. 🤤

[@JP-vl1tf]

Many reviewers talk about how this is wider and more volume, how does this fit compared to the new SC elite since the fuel cell line seems to share colors and design? As a wider higher volume fit runner I’m very excited that something other than altra might fit.

[@kofuzi]

there are two kinds of wide to discuss here: fit and footprint for those concerned about fit: I do discuss fit at length in this video. plus, v3 was available in wide sizing. I anticipate (but don't know for sure) that v4 will become available in wide sizing eventually. however, what I'm talking about is footprint. how wide is the amount of foam that you are standing on. it changes the experience of the shoe dramatically

[@JP-vl1tf]

Ok thank you

[@Peter_Scott]

Nice review. Haven't tried this on but definitely liking the new aesthetic/design language on the new NB Rebel and Elite. The angular/geometric design with the halftone on the side logo - colourways are nice too. Much better to me visually than the previous version.

[@mikoltd]

Looking forward to seeing a 100 mile review as well! Looks like the review runs have been done in colder temps. Do you find that your thoughts can change on a shoe as weather warms up? In terms of midsole, cushion, responsiveness, etc.

[@kofuzi]

can cold have any effect at all on a shoe? sure. will warmth cause such an effect as to change my overall opinion on a shoe? I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it's never happened before

[@mitchellthornton6393]

@@kofuzimost midsole’s will soften in warmer temp. And harden in colder temps. Which changes the responsiveness.

[@abbyschwendler1107]

I love the look of the v4, but im not very enthusiastic about buying it. I loved the v2 and v3. I actually got some of my fastest times in the rebel v.s. any other shoe. It handled strides, tempo, progression runs, easy runs. And the fuel cell midsole is something special to me. I may have to try and seek out some v3 if i can still find them in my size.

[@padrinio80]

The same here I had 2 pairs of V2s 1 pair of V3 and will buy another for sure cause I don’t like what I’m hearing about the V4 !

[@abbyschwendler1107]

@@padrinio80 when I need a daily trainer again I'll pick it up. I just feel with a name like "rebel" they should have moved in a different direction - keep it light, fun and fast

[@LuisBecerra79]

That foam looks like a novablast 🤷🏻‍♂️. MyWallet all of a sudden disappeared, don’t know why 🤦🏻‍♂️😆😆😆

[@Сомнойвсехорошо-ц1ж]

Sorry do you drink coffee? Electrolytes? What about you diet plan

[@Andy.mikhail137]

So is this somewhat like the saucony speeds?

[@SonicBaller7]

Hey Kofuzi, I'm a big fan💖Hope your'e having a awesome day. Please help me out here- I have a budget of buying only 1 pair of running shoe, and I have to do everything with whatever shoe I'll buy, from doing daily training, and speed workouts, to running half-marathons. My personal best in Half-Marathon is 1:30 min and i consider myself a speed runner. My next goal is to finish half-marathon in 1:10 min. Which one pair of shoe should i grab?

[@MateuszPitak]

Hi Kofuzi. Good review. How you would compare this new NB Rebel 4 shows vs Puma Deviate Nitro 2 as a daily training , can do everything shoes? Which one you would pick ? I have Pumas and I did almost 600K in them this winter and I really like them. Of course they are plated but still flexible and responsive. I was considering NB as a next daily training shoes, however now in the UK the Pumas are available for almost 1/2 price of the NBs. thanks

[@danpants907]

First

[@tsteinour]

Would either work for speed walking or half jog at a good pace for a little then walk some . Trying to get back to where I. was in December before total knee replacement surgery or should I go with new balance more v4 or 1080v13. Or other suggestions. I need them to be under 8mm , preferably 4 to 5 mm drop

[@bentaylor3730]

And there are so many other reviewer's stating that they find the shoe to be much more of an uptempo shoe than a workhorse and/or easy run shoe. It's the same when I hear people mention that it runs very wide in the midfoot and forefoot areas (which it does) and mention that they still wouldn't go down a size because it fits true to size and would be too short in length but always fail to mention that you can go with the women's shoe instead for men with narrower feet (sadly I don't believe there is an option for women to do something similar or have a narrower option) and they still share the same colour ways. I love using this site for just that, up tempo type workouts while using my Saucony Tempus's for my long and easy runs and the Saucony Endorphin Elites for race day. Love your videos and all your other content mate, you're a legend! 👍👊

[@hectorguzman6122]

Revel 4 v the best for me, very friendly with my knees hips in general my legs , after many years with problems in my left knee, I can said welcome long runs with some different gears of speed as my condition permits , I got last week a track without when I reach 240 spm,

[@AliNadem]

v3 rebel wins

[@leniolesch896]

Thanks for the review. I’m considering buying it. I guess I need to test it in my running shops Love the grind. Merch from Philly?

[@fazanaufalalghifary689]

which better rebelv4 or novablast 4?

[@kofuzi]

they're both great shoes. I have my preferences, but which one is better may very well come down to what you like more.

[@limjichen2680]

I’m thinking of getting the rebel v4 and pair it with the superblast, would it be a rotation that make sense?

[@kofuzi]

yes

[@limjichen2680]

@@kofuzi thanks!

[@soundofenigma]

Skip the v4 and just stick with Superblast. SB is leagues better than the Rebel line in terms of versatility.

[@tonybowen455]

4:00 I got 8 oz for a men's us sz 8.5. Extremely happy with the weight. This is my fav shoe ever right now.

[@sandstromj]

Thx. This was a really good review. Loving the comparison to similar shoes also.

[@gonzalolapuz5043]

I like this one but it's too pricey for a daily trainer here in the Philippines almost 166 USD..

[@soutarm]

I had to buy the V2 and V3 1/2 a size up from my already 1/2 sized up running size. Maybe they've overcorrected this year?

[@McFearless80]

Ah, the New Balance 880 I liked 2 for what it was. I liked that I could use the 3 for more than one type of run. I'm sure the 4 will be fine too. However, as a saga, they confuse me.

[@胸口碎大石]

just realize that the stack height is the only place the US folks keep using metric instead of imperial😁

[@CozyRodent]

Why they still cutting so much outsole on everything, these are not competirion shoes, it will feel softer beginning but then it will feel less protective than with outsole

[@Fuerza_Athlete_Josh]

People at my local running shop love this shoe. May be getting them soon. Awesome review!

[@kofuzi]

Hope you can try them!

[@Ninja-Cake]

V4 runs small. I had to go a full size up

[@kofuzi]

what shoes do you normally run in? I feel like these shoes are just so roomy. I still think it's tts, but if I had to recommend any sort of change, it would be to size down.

[@jensencastro6989]

Was really wanting to pair these with my 1080v13 for a faster day/workout non plated shoe from NB. They kinda fall into the same daily trainer (albeit in different spectrums) category.

[@michaeldamico3000]

Dude you made these look cool...I was thinking about getting them but now I want them

[@alexkhan2000]

Good review. I definitely plan to try the Rebel v4 as I'm an unabashed NB fanboy, but this shoe seems like such a major departure from my beloved v3 that I've stocked up on multiple pairs of it with the recent sales going on. Never got to try the v2 and I know that many Rebel lovers say that's "The One", but the v3 does a lot of things very well considering its lower stack and minimalism compared to all these super trainers coming out these days. I also love the Takumi Sen 8/9 for the workouts, so I don't expect the Rebel v4 to take on that role. Seems like a jack-of-all-trades shoe but which does certain things better than others. Interested in knowing how the foam holds up after 100 miles. I haven't had any durability issues with the v3 as some have reported and I know there are concerns about how long the v4 will hold its bounce and responsiveness.

[@robsnow2099]

11:44 if the SC can’t do long and fast, then it needs to be 180.00-200.00. 14:11 this is one of the biggest updates to a shoes line visually that I have seen in a while, when you held up the previous gen..it looks incredibly dated. Same goes for the SC V3.

[@kofuzi]

SC can do long and fast - marathon and threshold. but if you're going to be doing a lot of vo2max work, you might enjoy having another shoe that is more finely tuned for it.

[@joseconcha4848]

This or novablast 4?

[@kofuzi]

I prefer novablast 4. it's springier

[@jerber182]

I have gone through 3 pairs of the Novablast 3 and 1 pair of the Rebel v3. Now with the new models I'm not sure which one to pick up. I'm more intrigued by the new Rebel v4, but which one would you recommend?

[@akmalismail]

Bulky, but looks can be deceiving, might be exciting.

[@HAzijb]

I wish you had compared this to Ride 17 (given its updated foam) instead of the Mach X or just as an additional comparison.