KOFXV Alternate Inputs/ Input Shortcuts Explained

[@LeoKingdom101]

Since Terry's rising tackle is a dp motion now, I use this alt input to combo r.tackle into power geyser. It helps a lot.

[@katios3871]

How do you use the input shortcut to get power geyser off of dp?

[@PalisadeGaming]

I have a new video dropping very soon explaining this very thing

[@ぼーし-q5q]

Thanks! I remember some but not all shortcuts. This really helped to refresh my memory, especially Heidern at the start!

[@PalisadeGaming]

Very happy to hear this helped you!

[@Cgrecythorpy]

Crazy how strict the timing is, if you do half circle back forward punch, you have to input qcf hk BEFORE the punch connects to get the super I think. Was stuck on this, even this trick takes practice! Also, crazy that you showed the exact trial that made me pull this video up

[@xshadow193]

The strict timing is the only reason I dropped the game. I also think it'd be more accessible if they designed the inputs to be what the shortcuts are, instead of having to look them up. The characters and gameplay all look really cool though

[@veridis_qu0]

helpful stuff, also first KoF and been struggling with some of the inputs thanks!

[@PalisadeGaming]

Dont give up! Im along side my people for the ride. I wanna be online competent at the very least and I will stick by anyone who wants to learn!

[@kaceejones2282]

@@PalisadeGaming Amma try it out man hopefully it works btw will u upload a short UT input tutorial for Iori?

[@dragons_hook]

Starting it off with "Secrets" by Will.I.Am... Absolute genius!!!

[@PalisadeGaming]

oh baby another man of culture hell yeah, welcome aboard

[@PalisadeGaming]

I will be working on another video for you guys soon! What do you guys want to see? A commonly asked question is about other types of "shortcuts" Here is a written example of another one for you while I work on what my next video will be. In the mean time, I can say that a lot of the time you can use the input "motion" of the prior specials with the remaining one of the "super" input. It is called input buffering. So for example, if a special requires a half circle back input, and the super you want to cancel into requires 2 quarter circle backs. You could simply do, half circle back, then immediately do one more quarter circle back to cancel into the super. The reason this works is because the first special, "the half circle back" also includes the quarter circle back input so if you execute the next quarter circle back it will cancel as if you you have already done both. (essentially you have.)

[@ryomitsui000]

Wow, I never would have found this on my own. Are there any shortcuts for double half-circle supers/motions, say like Shermie's supers?

[@PalisadeGaming]

I will take a look at Shermie for you a little later on for you man. In the mean time, I can say that a lot of the time you can use the input "motion" of the prior specials with the remaining one of the "super" input. It is called input buffering. So for example, if a special requires a half circle back input, and the super you want to cancel into requires 2 quarter circle backs. You could simply do, half circle back, then immediately do one more quarter circle back to cancel into the super. The reason this works is because the first special, "the half circle back" also includes the quarter circle back input so if you execute the next quarter circle back it will cancel as if you you have already done both. (essentially you have.)

[@DudleyDanger]

For shermie if you do her suplex first that’ll count as the start of the half circle forward then you can just roll fireball forward twice and that should work.just make sure you aren’t releasing the stick after the suplex go straight from fireball back to forward twice

[@quinnah5544]

You've got yourself a new sub my man. 🤘

[@ssheeessh]

Instant like and sub for having Secret Formula as the intro. Funk

[@jesustepes]

thank you for this video, been having a hard time with inputs, a buffer video will be so helpful because just cant get the hang of it :(

[@PalisadeGaming]

Dont give up man! KOF really is a different beast. If I can get around to it or feel like I can make a well explained video then I certainly will. Thankyou for taking the time to comment. Never give up though bro. I play quite a few fighting games and still found KOF to be a bit more complex, but I will continue my journey!

[@jesustepes]

@@PalisadeGaming thank you for responding, also i have a question that is more on the topic of this video, Im having issues confirming moves like krohnem 3light kick into 623light punch, is there a way to shortcut this motion? (also sorry for my english, dont want to be mean)

[@PalisadeGaming]

@@jesustepes No problem brother, your english is great! So for simpler confirms like this, you must keep in mind that "Far Normals" often do not cancel into specials, Only "close normals". The concept is called proximity normals. Start inputting the motion to the special earlier and then hold the button, as it will repeat the input for a few frames. Be sure to turn on the key data while in training mode so when you make mistakes, you can pause the game and then look at your key data and see what went wrong.

[@ACSMEX]

Don't give up man, this game simplified a lot of stuff so if you get the hang of it you can consider it your entrance to a lot of classical fighting games. KOF 2002 UM (Unlimited match) and KOF 98 UMFE (Unlimited match Final Edition) also got rollback last year. They are pretty cheap on sale on Steam and are very fun too, but the mechanics and inputs make them a bit hard for new people to get into them. They have real pretzel motions (which KOF XV does NOT has).

[@majora1310]

Don’t really understand the game, but great job anyways!

[@Neogears1312]

You should play it. There’s a dinosaur, it piledriver a people it’s pretty cool.

[@treyking2066]

@@Neogears1312 Your English made me smile 😃

[@evalangley3985]

Forward, Down, Forward, LP, Down, Back, Down, Forward, HK... That's how you do it. You need to do the string in one shot, you cant stop.

[@TheSkum]

my brotha

[@Void7388]

Thanks bro you are tricks are awesome 😎. Thanks for the help

[@PalisadeGaming]

No, thankyou for taking the time to let me know what Im doing is worth my time. One Love

[@bZgtHeSTD]

I still can't get kyo's to work. hcb + forward A and qcf A doesn't work for me

[@Qeiji]

thanks ALOT Other things I know is instead of qcf,hcb motion you can do double qcf and back which helps alot for canceling characters like iori's dp into his super but I had a lot of hard time with exactly things like this video and I knew there must be a shortcut. Other hard thing for me is canceling charged moves like ash's summersault into super. I got it sometimes by accident but I can't do it regularly cause you have to finish super input right after first hit Is there an easier way?

[@maxwellchandler1489]

any tips on joe combo 4? the climax is hard to cancel into consistently, any shortcuts? ive just been doing the whole motion

[@BlvckOshun]

I wonder if this alternate input is why I sometimes get DP when I try to go for Athena’s command grab

[@lbryantl6543]

Thanks for this dude! Helpful info, appreciate it.

[@PalisadeGaming]

Appreciate that you took the time to stop by and comment! One love brother

[@mobilegemini1731]

I’ve been practicing Leona’s V-Slasher into Slash Saber. Don’t have the timing just yet. I’m also trying to think of a shortcut if there is one lol

[@erkle7267]

Hey when you said follow up with quarter circle forward for the super, are you sure it wasn't half circle 3:33 ? I can't seem to get it with quarter circle.

[@PalisadeGaming]

You do not need to do the half circle forward. Only a quarter circle provided that the input replacement for the dp motion (half circle back, forward) was done correctly. What you are seeing on screen is my "input habits" so to speak. I just naturally do the extra bit of motion. I can assure you my information is correct though. Keep working at it brother, its taken me a couple of days to get this execution consistently! KOF is a different beast.

[@erkle7267]

@@PalisadeGaming Thanks man I'll just keep grinding, haven't played KOF in a decade.

[@PalisadeGaming]

@@erkle7267 Hell yes man, im currently grinding right now along side you guys. Lets become online competent together!

[@MrUkitake505]

ty so much this helped alot but do you have one for input motions like elisabeth quarter circle back into half circle super ?

[@PalisadeGaming]

Im taking a look at all your guys specific questions and thinking about making a dedicated video for them all

[@MrUkitake505]

@@PalisadeGaming ty

[@SovietBear36]

This video was so helpful. But do you have a trick for ryo's dp into fireball super in his mission 5? I tried doing the heidern motion showed above but because ryo has the forward back forward special move it makes that come out instead of dp. Any help is appreciated. So far it seems like i just gotta dp then half circle forward but the timing is super fast for me

[@arekutheof555]

That's exactly what you need to do; do the DP motion and then HCF. It works for Ryo, Robert and Yuri.

[@pasteypepsi1293]

Great vid. Do you know if there are any shortcuts for double half circles for characters like Clark and Ramon?

[@PalisadeGaming]

I have a video coming out soon covering some things like that

[@BasedSif]

I’m trying to do chizuru’s trial 4 but it’s hard because you have to do 2 inputs that involve LP in a row. And it involves QCF>QCB,HCF motion(s)…. Normally I’d do the QCB,HCF button and then other button on the first confirm. But you can’t do that here because it’s 2 LPs in a row…. So hard…

[@PalisadeGaming]

When I get a chance Ill take a look at it for you

[@BasedSif]

@@PalisadeGaming that would be super nice of you. But I partly don't think there is a shortcut for the last 2 trials. you just have to be fast...

[@BasedSif]

@@PalisadeGaming hey! Just wanted to say thanks for offering to check it out. But I figured out the shortcut for the input QCB, HCF and that helped with the speed of getting the inputs. I finished the trial!!! I don’t really even care about the trial combos but if I start one I HAVE to finish it. That’s my rule.

[@PalisadeGaming]

I admire that rule brother. Thank you for your kindness

[@MuhammadAli-ci7qp]

I am able to do hcbf but cant land dp any help

[@renzodanner6129]

can you put the input for people from the other countries?

[@PalisadeGaming]

632146+P

[@GamersInn92]

Which microphone do you use?

[@PalisadeGaming]

Hey im using the "Turtle beach stealth 600 gen 2" They are approximately $100 dollars. I use them when streaming (which is how I get these recordings) on the xbox. The only downside is that they only work on the xbox and not the pc, I would highly recommend a pair that allows you to do both, if thats what you need. Thanks for stopping by bro

[@GamersInn92]

@@PalisadeGaming well thanks for your comprehensive comment :) I would like you to recommend me an inexpensive and good microphone. I'll appreciate it

[@PalisadeGaming]

On which platforms do you plan on using the headset?

[@GamersInn92]

@@PalisadeGaming for pc. Not so expensive, with good range of voice, and which occupies minimal space

[@PalisadeGaming]

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[@ToruKurosawa]

I am trying Geese with his super into critical super and its a nightmare 😄

[@4ndrew4guirre]

So on an arcade stick, when it comes to doing double qcf supers raw, its very inconsistent. You are restricted to doing the motions slower. Are you noticing this?

[@PalisadeGaming]

I would do the super in training with the attack data turned off so you have a longer key data string. Then do it over and over again on both sides and closely pay attention and see if you have any weird input tendencies that might be causing the issue. I spend a lot of time analyzing my inputs and find out how truly sloppy I can be.

[@Darklke]

can you give me number motion inputs for terry to rising tackle cancel to power geyser?

[@PalisadeGaming]

If you’re on the left side they go as follows: 63214,6+P -> 236+P

[@epiphanyspace]

how to do the "z" on the arcade stick? any shortcuts?

[@PalisadeGaming]

If you’re having a hard time with the basic shoryuken input. Think of it like this: Tap forward before doing a shoryuken motion (quarter circle forward). Except you don’t have to roll all the way to forward. If your having a hard time cancelling the motion into a super (typically a quarter circle back -> half circle forward) then you would want to use the alternative input that this video describes.

[@epiphanyspace]

@@PalisadeGaming shoryuken and fire balls are okay. The "z" moves are challenging, are there shortcuts to "z" move? ("z" are like Cammy cannon spike) if you can do a separate video with KOFXV character would be appreciated streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Cannon_Spike

[@PalisadeGaming]

Edit: I got a video for you bro! Working on editing now.

[@Lemon_Force]

like what op said, im not sure about in KOF yet but in other games an easier way to do it is by doing a fireball motion (qcf) but press forward first so f qcf or if you know numpad notation: 6236 instead of 623

[@PalisadeGaming]

@@Lemon_Force thankyou lemon force, I forget how some basic concepts to me, are foreign to others, i dont mean to sound disrespectful in my explanations. Just learning about you guys as a creator.

[@MadaoAU]

I wish this worked with Athena, DP LP into double half back circle is hard for me :(

[@PalisadeGaming]

Just went into practice with this for you, you have a bit more time to cancel than you would think. Start by adding a forward motion to your DP like this: →↓↘→+LP. That way your already starting the beginning of the first half circle motion. The full execution of your stick should look like this without returning to neutral: →↓↘→↘↓↙←→↘↓↙←. Do it briskly, but dont rush, sometimes I like to close my eyes and feel the motion in my hands and imagine what my hands will be doing when Im having a hard time. Be relaxed, brisk, and crispy. Btw you can also cancel this move with her QCB+P move by converting it into a HCB+P, then you would just have to add one more HCB+P for the super cancel

[@MrManDan_]

Where can I find the alt inputs

[@timelessninja3171]

This input isnt working for me and im doing the hcf plus the qcf

[@PalisadeGaming]

Its half circle back, forward, then qcf

[@timelessninja3171]

@@PalisadeGaming thats what im doing its not working

[@PalisadeGaming]

@@timelessninja3171 are you making sure to look at your inputs to see if the full half circle back including the back motion is part of your key data?

[@PalisadeGaming]

refer to my other video which has a graphical breakdown of whats happening in the first 2 minutes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/np7Sc3h7qqqGY6s The only other thing I can possibly do I have you send me a clip of you doing it in training mode with the key data on, then I could upload a video of me going over your inputs and showing you what your doing wrong.

[@timelessninja3171]

@@PalisadeGaming ill check it out but ya my inputs are clean. Also when i do kyo dp into super i always get the 2x qcf super i dont understand whats going on

[@raphaelmoris]

Can someone confirm that this still works? I´ve tried for like 30 minutes straight without any success...confirmed on the input list that I´m performing it correctly :(

[@PalisadeGaming]

Yes it still works, it’s a legacy feature. Nice guitar videos btw

[@raphaelmoris]

@@PalisadeGaming great, and tks! I'll just keep training... I'm struggling with different types of gates on my arcade.. Maybe that's why ...played as a kid with circular ones (or none) but trying to get used to octagonal since I couldn't work with the square one... Tks for the feedback!

[@PalisadeGaming]

@@raphaelmoris I highly recommend getting used to square gate for a multitude of reasons, but it not necessary to get better. If you decided to switch just know your gunna suck until it clicks

[@PalisadeGaming]

No problem man thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment!

[@fkcneo]

Usefull stuf

[@SigCurtis]

I wish I could see your hands doing it, it would be even better to get what you mean.

[@PalisadeGaming]

KOFXV Input Shortcuts In-Depth Explanation & Viewer Questions Answered kzbin.info/www/bejne/np7Sc3h7qqqGY6s Full breakdown

[@shanedesir-parkes]

Not gonna lie your Heidern trick does work... But it doesnt work in a combo just a raw dp then super.. Works though but if you can tell me what you think it is im doing wrong combo wise let me know maybe hitbox yes cos that's how I was doing it but not stick

[@PalisadeGaming]

Look at your inputs and make sure that the when doing the half circle back part that you are hitting the back input. The cancel wont work if your stick only ever makes it to diagonal down back before hitting forward plus button. The special will come out but wont cancel into super. Send me a small clip of you doing it in training mode and I can go over your inputs and possibly even make a video out of it.

[@PalisadeGaming]

Also, My more recent video covering input shortcuts really breaks down the input parts in more detail kzbin.info/www/bejne/np7Sc3h7qqqGY6s

[@shanedesir-parkes]

@@PalisadeGaming Ok bet. Where would I send the clip. Ill be totally honest the way I use to hold the stick was lazy where I had it inbetween my thumb and finger but but im pushing myself to hold the knub for more accuracy. Kof is the only game iv ever had to hold the stick with some meaning. Im slightly in a bit of a handicap too sadly got injured wrisks atm only playing stick cos its too much on my hitbox. Ill check your other video thanks

[@PalisadeGaming]

Yeah same here about holding the stick with meaning, the clip would be of you executing the combo in question within the training mode with your key data on. If you uploaded it to KZbin I could grab it from there then do a slo mo recap of it and make a solid piece of content out of it. If not KZbin then we can try discussing one drive sharing

[@shanedesir-parkes]

@@PalisadeGaming So looking into the other video and my inputs turns out I am not always doing the back input with the half circle again im a bit injured here but atm im finding the best way to know iv hit is actually listen to the my stick inputs so I know when iv done. Bit of a weird one that I heard Japanese players use against each other so I figured why not use it myself. Thanks for the aid bro ✊🏾🙏🏽 I will say this though. That this shortcut is a lil frame perfect.. I mean raw its harder not to get it but during combo wise you need to have the stick on neutral as you do say Hp then forward Lk in the mist of it all Im finding the raw way easier but timing wise it can miss.. Do not envy Heidern players back in the day

[@mrincognito3746]

i was playing in training mode yesterday and i press light punch repeatedly i got a full combo with heidern waht up with that is that even possible in a match if it is they made the game too easy for begginers

[@ACSMEX]

Wrong take. They made it accesible for begginers so they can play too without having to spend hours upon hours in the training room. Having a low floor allows for more people to get into fighting games which is good since that means more content for the FGC. For us that like a high ceiling the game has it too. They are taking away nothing from you, and they are giving stuff to newcomers, so they did the right thing.

[@PalisadeGaming]

(Not speaking to anyone in specific, just my take) The auto combos in this are actually great for teaching new players how to punish, and the general flow of the game, if you cant beat an auto combo user, then you need to get better, I think the way they are implemented in this game is pretty decent because it stops "good" players from mashing jab because once the auto combo starts, you can not stop it with any other button.

[@logostown6472]

This game added auto combos like fighterZ but once you learn the mechanics you can get so creative that’s it’s fun

[@PalisadeGaming]

@@logostown6472 Just to elaborate on your comment, DBFZ implements auto combos slightly differently to where they can be partially used as part of normal combos, KOF does not allow this. Once you have started an auto combo you are locked in unless you stop and restart with another normal or action.

[@logostown6472]

@@PalisadeGaming yeah fuck auto combos OG combos are the best

[@MichaelHarto]

Coming from 96 & 98, and having never used shortcut inputs in my life.. XV input feels lenient, waaaay lenient. Canceling to DM was never this easy manually. Not even 97 was this easy. Cancelling to 2xHCF or 2xHCB is shockingly easy.