Konnan & Disco ARGUE about The Undertaker defending Vince McMahon's WCW burial

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[@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL]

KONNAN talks about CHRIS JERICHO'S real life heat with THE UNDERTAKER kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ_Gn6pvecR4nZY

[@donovanbradford8231]

Great talks interestingly enough listening to a breakdown of why we never got Hogan and Flair at Mania 8 was because the house show audiences going through late 91 and early 92 craped on the match. It convinced Vince that while I know all tge best names in the business, maybe my audience doesn't know who Ric Flair is because the numbers don't show it. Which explains why for a long time Vince would change people's gimmicks. Doesn't explain em all but for many years Vince thought the WWE audience didn't watch anything else and them dumping on Hogan and Flair coming off their runs in the 80's kinda makes a great point.

[@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL]

@@donovanbradford8231 Vince wasn't wrong, WCW wasn't in a good place before Flair left

[@adrianhartso7060]

DDP is the best example. Him coming in to mess with taker by "stalking" his wife to prove himself was fine. Actually making him a creeper and then having taker's wife beat him up was no way gonna get him over.

[@KehKeh123]

I burst out laughing when Konnan was talking about Vince telling him to dance.

[@ramses1500]

I can see Vince yelling at konnan your gonna dance god damn it lol

[@digaby88]

😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

[@mox19380]

can't you in that gravely kayfabe voice, "dance! dance damnit! Oh yeah. Look at him! Look at the moves! Now let me see a running man! YES!"

[@CardShopReality]

Konan calling Sapphire “precious” was so funny😂 on so many levels.

[@Former_Employee]

I read this before I heard it then when I heard it I lost it 😂

[@SchnitzelCFC]

New challenge : Listen to Disco speak continously for 24 hours. Only Disco speaks. No breaks in between.

[@ladyScorpiofourtwnty]

Lol 🤣

[@scorpion6328]

Challenge already completed. I watch this channel.

[@micmaliss]

😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@scorpion6328

[@ArtLee97]

I like disco he just that guy that wants to be heard. We all have that friend. I actually like when Konnan is the last to talk because most of the time he agrees with disco

[@DeathKnecht]

It´s against the "Geneva Conventions"! :D

[@loooooooongstanding2141]

I remember there being an invasion segment were NINE guys from WCW jumped The Undertaker and he was able to fight them all off, by himself. He didn't help at all.

[@garethcullen9604]

"Dancing with some fat chick" Brutal!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@razielcisneros8091]

😂😂 that's actually the first time I've heard the max moon story

[@felatioable]

I’m with Konnan. Vince has used TV time to grind his axes and humiliate people. There’s the instance in 2009 where Raw had to be moved from the Pepsi center because the Denver Nuggets made it to the playoffs. So Vince rewrote Raw to bury the Denver Nuggets and their owner. Of course he would bury WCW. I mean, he made the Self Destruction of Ultimate Warrior documentary which is another example of spending money to bury someone or people.

[@mox19380]

he named Dibiases manservant/slave/bodyguard (whatever you want to call him) Virgil to mock Dusty whose real name was Virgil Runnels.... vince had some strange beef with dusty

[@nikobellic8627]

😂vince yelling at him to dance is great

[@garethcullen9604]

Its a disgrace the way they treated DDP

[@StayInYourPlace]

WWE already had a "Peoples Champ" though. Smh

[@kob456]

@@StayInYourPlace They could've gave us a People's Champ vs People's Champ match up.

[@ladyScorpiofourtwnty]

Konnan n Disco Argue like Real Brothers. 😂😂

[@midnightrider4857]

This is Eric Landers from The Wrestle Factor. This may surprise alot of you. What people don't know and I heard Jim Ross discuss Dusty Rhodes and his polka dots in WWF. In a full Shoot RF video interview, Dusty Rhodes did he stated it was his idea for the polka dots and had no issue or problem with performing the character. I believe the clip is on You tube

[@XaneVicious]

Konnan is so humble at the end.

[@sx2ap]

Sting himself said the time he saw The Rock ask Booker T who he was like Booker was a nobody. Sting said that moment was when he was like, nah I'm good on WWE for the time being.

[@wizzerwiser2056]

Booker T lasted because he caved into the WWE bullshit. Others like DDP wouldn't.

[@greatnezz10]

DDP was a perfect example. He unmasked and got a huge pop but they gave him the stalker gimmick and was beat by the undertakers wife then became the European champion

[@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL]

Undertaker gave DDP (and Kanyon) NOTHING during that entire feud.

[@sx2ap]

Using the Pride FC theme for the opening ad was epic

[@CD-rs2pl]

Vince definitely did that. I think he even got a kick from making wrestlers have disagreements by telling them two different stories. An example is how he dealt with hogan and Bret in wrestlemania 9

[@Hypno_BPM]

the fact that Vince thought Razor Ramon was a unique gimmick says a lot. i think Disco is right that Vince was in a bubble and didn’t know about what was going on around pop culture or pro wrestling

[@mkultra5752]

Out of touch old man billionaire

[@mox19380]

dusty rhodes wrestled for wwwf at times for nearly 5 years, incuding main eventing MSG vs superstar billy graham twice. vince named dibiase's bodyguard manservant Virgil as a dig at dusty rhodes. vince knew who dusty was and the level of his fame

[@Hypno_BPM]

@@mox19380 well i wasn’t specifically talking about vince knowing about dusty or not

[@thehmc]

Yeah Undertaker is full of it. There are a ton of instances of WWE burying people. The thing people forget is that the roster is sometimes flush and you can bring in these established names to bury them and put over the talent you already have who are loyal to you and kiss your ass.

[@allencollins5666]

Speaking Of Kiss A$$, That’s How The Undertaker Got Over And I Found Out In Early 1999 That Wrestlers Had To Sleep With Vince McMahon To Become WWE Stars & The Undertaker & ShawN Michaels Slept With Vince. Undertaker Mad He Wasn’t Pushed In WCW Rightfully Because He Wasn’t Big Enough Or Built. He Was A Tad Bit Muscular In WCW. Once He Went To The WWE, Those Lil Muscles Went Away. WCW Would’ve Dominated/Mostly Destroyed WWE If All The Top Stars And The Same Number Of Wrestlers Wete There. WCW Built Heavyweights-Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Sting, Goldberg, Sid Vicious, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Lex Luger, Roddy Piper, Randy Savage, Scott Steiner, Booker T, Bret Hart, Mike Awesome, Shawn Stasiak, Sean O’Haire, Chuck Palumbo, Mark Jindrak, KRONIK, Horace Hogan, Van Hammer, Johnny The Bull Stamboli, Reno, Demon, Jerry Flynn, Konnan, Road Warrior Animal, Stevie Ray, Curt Hennig & Kanyon WWE Built Heavyweights-Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock Beginning July 30, Kane, Kurt Angle, Faarooq, Test, Hardcore Holly, Billy Gunn & Bull Buchanan. Plus WCW Stars Far Better Than The WWE. Invasion Angle Failed.

[@Mpz13]

⁠@@allencollins5666The invasion was terrible but everything else you said was all bs

[@grizzlyadamblack]

​@@Mpz13 I second your reply

[@tonyslicer7399]

need tissue truth hurts I know

[@ainaalaina-kn8kp]

I feel like old mean mark can say whatever he wants to say on WCW issues considering the asshats at the top during his run there told him no one would pay a dime to see him. Only for him to become wrestling biggest icon 30 years later Bro can bury WCW all day 😂

[@jimbowlan5804]

@ainaalaina-kn8kp They said the same to mick foley and Steve austin all playing a role in wwf pulling ahead

[@bb-gc2tx]

no one was paying to see him until vince gave him undertaker gimmick

[@jimbowlan5804]

@@bb-gc2txtrue but I don’t think the gimmick would have worked on anyone else they were both at the right place at the right time. Supposedly Vince had that gimmick in his mind for years but never found the right guy till mark calaway came into the picture

[@R3prieve]

Thank you, Konnan.

[@user-oc5qq3xq5y]

That video game music is iconic in the beginning

[@atomicswift5356]

That was the pride fc theme

[@mavtx21]

Taker walked the walk, so he has every right to say what he wants.

[@quentinkaasa47]

You mean Old School? Is that the walk you're talking about?

[@JayL8899]

Walked the walk and kissed that McMahon ass lol. He also tolerated some stupid “wrestlers court” BS.

[@bathulk]

Disco is the epitome of a contrarian.

[@newichi3902]

Forgot how fk'n hype that Prime theme is

[@bloodeagle6458]

"HE'S GONNA DANCE!!" VKM probably

[@DPrime215]

Phil Walsh didn’t join WCW in 2001 because he knew it was a failing company.

[@3DBrawlChannel]

He'd have been absolutely... urm, what's the word?

[@TL2005]

​@3DBrawlChannel absolutely ruined😂

[@mansion1719]

Booker T was the only guy that actually matter in WCW around this time. Everyone else was either too green or starting to break down.

[@td163]

They know this but too stupid to admit it

[@quentinkaasa47]

They had Buff the Stuff but made him a sacrificial lamb.

[@Mpz13]

@@quentinkaasa47Buff realized that he wasn’t going to last long in that environment. It was too much for him

[@mansion1719]

@@quentinkaasa47 Buff wasn't even a big deal for WCW in 2001

[@mzakami3090]

Rey Mysterio? Eddie Guerrero? Chris Benoit? Goldberg?

[@gimmiebackmybike1831]

you know what's so nuts? The Undertaker vs Scott Steiner was once spoken about for WrestleMania 19 but Scott Steiner sucked so badly in those matches with Triple H that Steiner ended up not even making the pre-show of Mania 19.

[@donovanbradford8231]

I never heard that Steiner and Undertaker was in the table, I'd believe it from a Nov. 02 through Jan. 03 mindset idea. But everything I heard was Rumble Steiner wins by DQ, gets rematch at No Way Out loses by interference, gets one last chance at Mania by putting career on the line and wins which we see recycled for Goldberg later thst year. However the matches were so bad he was pulled and they said let's put Booker in his place sense H and him have fin matches but because it's an audible H obviously wins to go and do his stuff with Nash.

[@DJObiSmalls]

Yooooo. Kennan said "Precious"... LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[@newichi3902]

WWE finally got Sting in the door, in his first match he takes an L to HHH. Love Taker but Vince did that bs on the regular.

[@BathoryQueen]

The amount of people, specifically wrestler who reveal they do not fundamentally understand that's Vince NEVER EVER watched wrestling outside his own show is wild

[@ethangibb]

Vince saw Dusty first hand when he wrestled Superstar Graham in The Garden.

[@Hatchbasic]

The whole “wwe buried Goldberg” is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard

[@Former_Employee]

Why. Okay. Whatever. You're crazy. What are even are you talking about?

[@kob456]

@@Former_Employee You also believe that Bret Hart wasn't buried in WCW either, right?

[@Former_Employee]

@@kob456 don't project guy. I don't know what you're talking about.

[@TingTong2568]

@@Former_Employee you talk crap

[@Former_Employee]

@@TingTong2568 you do

[@BMK_KING]

Love how they didn’t mention DDP arguably one of the most over WCW guys completely buried him by making him get pinned by Sarah.

[@ChristianEdwards-me9rm]

Goldberg, Hall, Nash, Hogan, Mysterio, Booker T, Ric Flair all came in after WCW closed all now who had HoF WWE runs. Eddie, Benoit, Show, Jericho during height of attitude era. Ron Simmons, Foley, Goldust early stages of attitude era.

[@risingevil83]

Still to this day believe DDP was buried. Stupod gimmick and letting takers ex pin paige

[@joetroller514]

Goldberg was booked to become WWE champion and even beat The Rock, Triple H & Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. He was not buried in any way.

[@donovanbradford8231]

Unfortunately to not only look at Goldberg's run but to hear all the crap people hated was pretty much Goldberg screwing up. Pichard from day one always said, "I tell the story of how Vince said I smeared crap all over the business" and it was when Jericho threw paint in Goldberg's car and he ran the wrong direction. Even Vince knew this killed him who screwed up and Bruce and everyone there said it was Bill. The matchups were there to get him over and he couldn't make it happen. Truly the most snake bit run in the history of the business.

[@joetroller514]

@@donovanbradford8231 it didn't kill Goldberg at all

[@Svr2021playit]

He did leave on a bad note the first time around, though. Well, according to Goldberg, that is. I guess he found out the hard way - WWE was a different animal

[@Former_Employee]

Vince didn't even know what a burrito was.

[@NPUTsReviewsandStopmotion]

I think both sides are true. I think Vince buried who he wanted from other companies and let others shine.

[@Unknown37-r6s]

True Vince always wanted to take down wcw but in reality wcw was way better than wwf/wwe

[@ski8615]

7:34 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@xymoriintus]

Y'all need better sponsors lol what responsible adults are spending their hard earned money on bets?

[@Eddboy33]

Losers that like throwing money down the toilet

[@NICK77777]

Ngl, I don't care what Vince did. They all took the bag.

[@MrFoxxx47]

"I don't care what Vince did" is a dangerous statement these days lol

[@NICK77777]

@@MrFoxxx47 I don't care. People are overly sensitive.

[@shanestephens4728]

@@MrFoxxx47 The only thing Vince is guilty of, is not paying a sex worker.

[@willlakers]

🫡 to Konnan for being from the city

[@rogerpace3749]

i agree with konan because Vince buried the wcw superstars right off the bat period.

[@Eddboy33]

The fact that wwe was written for an audience of 1 is that factor people forget

[@ithinkaboutthings9052]

Eh. McMahon was serving many masters. People think the owner of a company can do anything without answering to anyone. But there’s broadcast partners, sponsors, investors, contracted talent and employees. In today’s world, you want to see a clown who’s an audience of one, look no furtfurther than AEW.

[@liamstewart4472]

The Goldberg stuff was weird but I don't think anyone really knew how much he sucked until he came into WWE. In WCW they did a much better job of covering up how he was one of the worst of all time.

[@llydrsn]

I think Goldberg was too dependent on his undefeated streak that after his first loss, it was all downhill from there. He was still relevant in WCW somewhat, but it was mainly due to the residual aura he had from the streak and the fact that he was basically the first new guy they had on the Main Even scene since The Giant. In the WWE they had to reference the streak several times just to prop him up a bit because the character really did not have anything else.

[@philwalsh8975]

The Undertaker thinks that AEW is so bad that he has made a pact with Kevin Nash and Stone Cold Steve Austin to never watch it again.

[@aceloco817]

Consider me signing that pact from afar. Lol. Only listen to Corny's vids on how the shows went. 10 outta 10 times, it feels like the right thing to do. Instead of polutting my mind with the garbage they force feed thier audiance. 😆

[@philwalsh8975]

@@aceloco817 Dynamite BARELY got a 500K rating this week. No one cares about AEW

[@aceloco817]

@@philwalsh8975 idk what your reply is implying....

[@philwalsh8975]

DDP was absolutely ruined in AEW

[@shawnwbronx]

The cage match with Kane and Taker vs DDP and Kanyon was a blatant burial. They gave the WCW guys nothing.

[@mkultra5752]

Sting got buried hard at wrestlemania...then made him shake about it after.

[@robnix4146]

Then they had Seth Wreck him even more

[@tonyslicer7399]

think Konan feeling still hurt how wwe treated him from past can't move on

[@AI-Tunez-24]

"Let tell you what I think "

[@M3CC411Z]

Konnan is 100% correct

[@jackiejones3296]

people always say this but who was a star coming into WWE from WCW around this time? When WCW closed they had zero stars, zero draws. People didn't care about WCW. WWE shouldn't have focused on pushing guys like Kurt Angle or Chris Jericho but pushed Hugh Morris instead?

[@LanternSpawn]

The closest ones I can say are Booker T and Diamond Dallas Page, but I see where you're coming from.

[@jackiejones3296]

@@LanternSpawn Booker T was great wrestler, no doubt, but he really wasn't a draw. Although he did get to main event Summerslam.

[@LanternSpawn]

@@jackiejones3296 fair enough. I'm not in any position to talk about WCW because I started watching wrestling the year after they folded, so I see it the same way I see the Soviet union in terms of history.

[@jackiejones3296]

@@LanternSpawn explain this one to me

[@LanternSpawn]

@@jackiejones3296 basically, I hear stories about WCW the same way I hear people talk about what life was in Soviet Russia. They were both big in their own way that had a genuine possibility of taking out the opposition, but basically crumbled under their own weight among other things. It's not exactly a the best comparison (especially considering that America never went to war with Russia) but it's the closest I can think of.

[@charlesdgriffith4518]

Hogans character was changed when he came to the wwf he became a face when he was a heel before with freddie blassie they even had backlund say that hogan had changed his ways and left freddie blassie

[@mox19380]

DI of course Vince McMahon saw Dusty stuff growing up. Dusty worked the WWWF territory on and off for 5-years. dusty battled Superstar billy graham (when graham was champ) twice in MSG for WWWF when Vince was working with the company.

[@GeDiction223]

Cmon, they act like they don't know how Vince works. If he didn't create your character, it doesn't mean a thing. He has to make money off of you. He has to own your gimmick.

[@jotac87278]

I can see both sides having some validity to them. Im sure there was guys Vince intentionally buried, and some that just couldn't get over. Of course people in Miami loved Dusty. He made his name in FCW and Eddie Graham tried to give him a piece of the company

[@luispena5724]

I agree with Konnan, perfect example of vince knowing who Dusty was is him naming Virgil after Dusty.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

Disco is playing devil's advocate way to hard.

[@donovanbradford8231]

One two guys I can agree a DDP that seemed way too odd for it not to be a burial but so many others just didn't click with the audience, the Royal Rumble crowd booed Steiner out of the building after he kicked the crap out of Triple H for 30 minutes. No matter what Goldberg did it was snake bit, yet Goldberg beat Rock, Jericho, Triple H, and Brock Lesnar on PPV, and beat H for the title. Unfortunately so many other guys from WCW as crazy as it sounds they got in their own way from the sounds. Yet Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Kevin Nash, Jericho, Torrie Wilson, Stacy Keibler, etc just as many names that didn't get over also got over and ate Hall of Famers.

[@johnnytheworldowner9130]

oh that evil Vince McMahon, paying wrestlers 6-7 figures per year to lose fake fights.

[@89jstubbs]

I really wish konnan would speak more

[@grammysworld5449]

I actually agree with Disco.. Remember the names they gave Steve Austin before he got the Stone Cold character?

[@jmurdock8303]

This was the early 90s pot dots and hammy gimmicks were something they did. Who did he have him working with the he top heels Dubase and Macho. He has prominent feature matches in Manis and SummerSlam. By the 90s Dusty wasn't main eventing in WCW

[@maxblackcat]

Undertaker still carrying Vince's water after these years. Sad.

[@jasengriffin485]

Konami is absolutely right. I absolutely hated as a teenager what they did to Dusty! The gimmick was so stupid and demeaning. Total burial. So far from the character he spent years building!

[@TheOne-lb5pu]

Just because you were over in wcw doesn’t mean you can take that very same character and use it in wwe. Bret Hart wasn’t going anywhere in wcw but in wwe he was a megastar. Booker T had to loose the harlem heat gimmick to make it in wwe

[@toontown0633]

I liked it better when undertaker didn’t speak..

[@Abioticwinter]

Dusty worked for Sr

[@ninthlife1745]

Hang on, the guy really expected Taker to insult Vince McMahon?!

[@RawPowerComics]

Dusty Rhodes worked in WWWF for Vince Sr. when Vince McMahon was an announcer. Of course he knew who Dusty was. He worked with him.

[@analiysanchez9949]

Kane and Undertaker Squashing DDP and Kanyon was pure bs

[@qlee2385]

K dogg is right on this one 💯 plus undertaker is compromised

[@gladememmott3001]

I like when they argue. They like to kiss and make up❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AntonioMartinez-bg7xy]

This is a hard to debate because look at all the guys that came from WCW and that were successful Chris Jericho , Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Booker T…. obviously not everybody that came from WCW was a success transition into WWE, but they still had a good amount of heads

[@allencollins5666]

Those Were All Vanille Midgets & A Black Guy(WWE Only Made Him Champ Because He Was Black).

[@themadviking5746]

So Max Moon was his idea ? But didn't he quit the company because he refused to keep wearing the outfit .

[@michaelbarker3749]

One man gang into Akeem the African dream

[@deadbrothers8348]

The problem is the more taker talks on his podcast the more he comes off as a wwe/vince kiss ass … no wonder he’s been on top for so long … it’s crazy … but it’s true taker is sounding like the biggest kiss ass .. not just this clip but in every single conversation I’ve heard him speak on wwe

[@adrianhartso7060]

Dusty worked wwe quite a few times. No way did vince not see him

[@thegod1067]

Disco needs to stop talking over konnan bruh its hurting my ears how high pitched his voice goes when arguing

[@MrBeavis84]

Dusty worked would come to the wwwf back in the 70s, Vince knew what Dusty could do, he did it to bury, its the reason Virgil got his name as a way to rib Dusty. Vince is a twisted dude that would bury anyone for any number of reasons. Disco is hilarious for defending it. Wrestlers are always working 😂

[@robertmichaelpittsley129]

He didn't change Flair

[@diontethompson8850]

Y and how was Scott Hall there in the late 80s? Genuine question.

[@analiysanchez9949]

I had to look this up on Wikipedia so Razor Ramon debuted in May of 92 and Max Moon debuted in September of 92 so Konnans story of Scott hall being there checks out 🤗

[@colinbaird7825]

That song is familiar…

[@jamessiddy1231]

Goldberg wouldn't have worn a wig in wcw, he never did anything. Killed everyone, said who's next. No shit WWE didn't just keep doing it.

[@JonDoe-fo3kl]

UNDERTAKER HELPED BURY DDP!!

[@alexanderson618]

Tazz😅😅😅😅😅

[@willowrush4765]

We need to do K100 Bingo

[@rjs2391]

What about Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit

[@nowtheworld138]

3:11 and pay Goldberg a lot of money along the way. Funny how we all forget that part 🙄

[@lookitskazzy]

Disco's hilarious defense of Vince and WWE signing people just to bury them is absolutely hilarious. How can he conceivably try to deny that Dusty, Terry Taylor, all this lame garbage wasn't trying to bury these guys?

[@bluntamainia444]

You have to either be naive like a child or wanting a job to think that Vince and WWE wasn’t petty. They were super petty for no reason

[@philwalsh8975]

Sting was absolutely ruined in AEW

[@Sky_Blaze]

Stimg was crap after the initial crow run

[@philwalsh8975]

@@Sky_Blaze that was the last time he had a character really

[@Sky_Blaze]

@@philwalsh8975 yep then he started talking it threw everything off

[@philwalsh8975]

@@Sky_Blaze and what was he in AEW? Just an older guy wearing too many layers

[@Sky_Blaze]

@@philwalsh8975 yep doing the same garbage everyone else is doing

[@randyruger9063]

Thousands of other instances of petty get backs in the wrestling business and we think THIS is a bridge too far? They can justify it by saying they are using them to get their own guys over. Yes, they're all their own guys, but Vince wouldn't let that get in his way

[@waynemorgan6153]

It wouldn't make sense to bury them in a normal situation. But everyone knows that Vince is just that petty.

[@josephcarvalho7713]

What about max moon he was buried in WWE