Konstantin Kisin & Neil deGrasse Tyson CLASH Over Trans Debate

💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥 Konstantin Kisin questions Neil deGrasse Tyson about his views of gender on a spectrum. They discuss societal constructs of gender, female-only spaces and debate the future of sports and how to resolve the issue of trans athletes.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an American astrophysicist, author, and science communicator. Tyson studied at Harvard University, the University of Texas at Austin, and Columbia University and was a postdoctoral research associate at Princeton University. Since 1996 he has been the director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City. He is the host of the podcast StarTalk and in 2014 hosted the popular television series Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey. He is the author of many books, the latest of which is 'Starry Messenger: Cosmic Perspectives on Civilization', available here: www.amazon.com/dp/B09Q7Y4GL5/
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[@hannekezijlmans6578]

I think it's really interesting how both of you are trying to step beyond your own bias and actually listen to one another... but then it turns out to be a real struggle because you both so much want the other person to see your point. I agree with both of you. As it stands, the almost mythical status of trans individuals is making it nearly impossible to criticise their place in society, so there I agree with you. And I agree with Neil that it is now upon us all to solve these problems moving forward, by leveling the playing field altogether. Maybe in fifty years we will look back at this and think it's all just as silly as the boys and girls entrance to the school. New solutions will be found. Thank you for bringing light to this topic and speaking to people with very different views about it.

[@tubester4567]

Neil Tyson is so full of it. Bought and paid by the establishment.

[@lisamcg93]

@@hannekezijlmans6578 we did even the playing field when we made women only spaces/sports/shortlists that’s how women got opportunities, it’s men that want to be women that are pushing into these areas causing the problem. Trans women are not the same as women. Pretending so only hurts real women. Have a trans category and let’s see how many trans athletes sign up shall we? If you transition to another sex you are a trans person in a separate class from man and woman if there are actually so many of them it won’t be a waste of time and money to accommodate them in their own spaces/sport/shortlists. That won’t happen because the trans movement has been hijacked by fetishists and perverts and if they can’t spy on or intimidate women then what’s the point.

[@taykitrleevitt4314]

Is N.D.Tyson a real scientist?...his sense of reason is flawed to F.

[@lechenaultia5863]

I think I can manage without that, thanks all the same.

[@emiliodaddio8517]

He’s a man of science right up until science conflicts with his political ideology.

[@meglukes]

I wonder if he genuinely believes all of this or just desperately wants to avoid getting cancelled so he’s going with the party line

[@Ramiiam]

No ideology, just an opportunist who sees which way the wind is blowing.

[@goranmilic442]

​@@meglukes What exactly do you disagree about with him?

[@adampindell]

Some days he's only 80% a man of science. Other days he's 80% a women of science 😅

[@richlisola1]

Conflicts with his master’s voice. He’s a slave

[@acc426]

A supposed scientist asking “why do you care” is like a doctor asking “why do you want to be healthy”. His ignorance is matched by his arrogance.

[@lordgizmor1376]

The question made me think: "why does any transperson care? Nobody I know gives a damn!" They seem to want attention. Not recognition.

[@newmannewmanz7110]

Deepak chopra of science

[@mrbigglezworth42]

@@lordgizmor1376 Because the personal is political, being trans isn't just about their junk, or lack thereof, but the ability to force others to accept their worldview as well. It all comes back to Marx and Gramsci eventually, it does with practically every leftist ideology. They just change the names every so often to hide it.

[@NoFunNoHope]

Why does Neil care? Shouldn't he be shrugging his shoulders going "i dunno, i have no opinion" if he wants to make a "why do you care" argument?

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

i had an ongoing "debate" with a couple of these parrots who kept coming back to "why do you care" after their accusations of phobia and bigotry did not achieve the desired and expected withering away and dying. i asked chat gp t if that was a reasonable argument - "In a debate, "Why do you care?" is generally not considered a reasonable argument on its own. This response may be perceived as dismissive or evasive rather than addressing the actual points or issues raised during the debate. Debates are meant to be an exchange of ideas and arguments, and simply asking why someone cares does not contribute to the substance of the discussion."

[@Ferocious_Lito]

This is how you know we’re fucked, when comedians are smarter than scientists.

[@AznInvasion85]

wish he was from the midwest and not one of the gayest states in the country

[@petyrbaelish007]

Hes not a real scientist. Hes a TV scientist. I genuinely feel bad for those who cant see the distinction.

[@coryc9040]

​@@petyrbaelish007he has a PhD. What do you do Poindexter?

[@justincampbell6603]

@@coryc9040 Having a PhD doesn't make you a scientist. Tyson is just a nerd who talks about the work of actual scientists on TV

[@Devilnero1991]

I'm a solid anti-woke guy but I fail to see how the comedian is smarter than scientist here. Niel made some amazing points. Of course Konstantin won on his point that there are physiological differences between men and women.

[@billbaker4772]

Crazy to witness a man of science go woke.

[@MinimaAmoralia]

having a single bathroom in a cafe is going woke? lol

[@irvingriley3067]

Yes

[@mattlewis5095]

What even is 'woke'? Such a meaningless thing to say.

[@ivan.tucakov]

Right on the nose with this comment.

[@user-qc6kl6mp8b]

​@@mattlewis5095woke is Losing your common sense too lunacy.

[@cassiopeia21]

As an astrophysicist, I apologise and am extremely embarrassed on his behalf.

[@calstonjew]

You got to where you are because of merit, not racial diversity quotas

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

He's reached Bill Nye the Science Guy levels of idiocy.

[@TheVideoLounge]

I like it, whereas normally I'd just have to listen to this annoying blowhard lecture everyone on cosmology and the composition of celestial bodies, now I know that I can walk intellectual circles around the guy regarding basic biology and its relevance in society. I'll bet I can beat you at arm wrestling too.

[@captainjack8319]

That’s considerate, and if it’s a joke, it is funny. The key thing to remember is that being an expert in a field it does not mean that one is naturally right. Because someone is well educated does not mean that they are knowledgeable on the subject. The truth is, Tyson’s arguments, about many things, are suspect. It’s the quality of the argument, not the merit or résumé of a person. Good luck with your astrophysicist endeavors.

[@jcarc5701]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 He is making it hard for you to practice your hate, I get it.

[@LennonZA]

Neil deGrasse Tyson is the smartest person that Neil deGrasse Tyson has ever met.

[@theend9494]

he is a legend in his own universe that he made , what a mind job, MATRIX

[@alphablack5520]

... ideologue in a basic sense.

[@dhrigby]

True. No one will ever love Neil as much as Neil loves Neil.

[@Scorch428]

omg hes a LIBERAL GET HIM!!!

[@LennonZA]

No, there's no bipartisan thinking here. He's just a knob. Sorry to disappoint.@@Scorch428

[@slybuster]

"Allow me to interrupt you but you're not allowed to interrupt me."

[@lloydwoodward9053]

“Don’t interrupt me by answering the question I asked.”

[@slybuster]

@@lloydwoodward9053 Tyson was giving longwinded responses while begging the question that "gender is a social construct." Basically, he was trying to bury the fundamental disagreement via tangents and hypotheticals that distract from the actual heart of the issue. When the host tried to direct him back to the central issue at hand, Tyson cried about being interrupted. When the host questioned one of the many tangents Tyson was using the bury the central issue, Tyson interrupted him.

[@melaniejohnson7744]

He’s become an egomaniac. Smdh

[@dodumichalcevski]

Thats not a scientist. Thats an activist

[@marouanenajar3026]

One can be both

[@dodumichalcevski]

@@marouanenajar3026 Wrong

[@marouanenajar3026]

@dodumichalcevski well if your brain was as big as your muscles, you will see that many great scientists were activists

[@coldplaysgames6695]

@@marouanenajar3026yes and no. In this case he isn’t using science or biology to prove his point in any sense of the matter.

[@marouanenajar3026]

@coldplaysgames6695 He didn't say anything scientifically wrong, because the discussed subject is not a scientific subject , it's a social subject . Come back when you can make the difference.

[@NotZelda1]

I find his argument unconvincing. I find his emotional reaction concerning.

[@albertodesantis739]

He has always been a fraud

[@topsecret5110]

He hasn't always been a fraud. He just happens to be egregiously wrong in this conversation. Not everyone that has a perspective you disagree with is an idiot. They're either influenced or have a temperament geared towards that perspective. In this case Tyson is influenced by probably a myriad of things My attitude is exactly as @NotZelda1. It's concerning because Tyson seems to be towing a line that may have severe social consequences

[@miltonwaddams2564]

Right

[@mcihs2]

He is just another “hustler” doing his thing, Alexis De Tocqueville journaled this very accurately. In addition, he is just another “idiot” in a planet overflowing with the hard of thinking….

[@futures2247]

he's a human beings and i'm sure the emotional reaction is frustration at the possible range of solutions to these cultural changes - rather than wanting to go backwards.

[@christopherglass5425]

Masterclass on how to discredit yourself as a scientist.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

by not being a feminist who wants quotas?

[@maintaint3003]

Or, how to gain influencer allies by threatening them with MeToo.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

@@maintaint3003 Konstantin was clearly trying to get woke feminist brownie points by supporting gender based selection of politcians

[@maintaint3003]

@@thorstenmarquardt7274 lol why do you care?

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

@@maintaint3003 normal people with principles care about the best man getting the job instead of the one with the right skin color and genitals

[@foreverrrrrrrrr]

Waiting for the day Jason Momoa wins the BEST ACTRESS award at the Oscars.

[@evelyngott2056]

😂😂😂😂

[@Seevawonderloaf]

😂😂😂 bro

[@markcopeland3011]

I've noticed people with the weaker arguments tend to exaggerate their incredulity in debates. I think a calm conversation on both sides is far more productive.

[@roberta2134]

That won't happen because they'd be exposed

[@AlrightDave]

From scientist to activist. What an astonishing fall he's taken.

[@rebchizelbeak5392]

Sorry, but he was always like this

[@otto-xl2xz]

Makes you wonder what other positions in science he's been schilling for. In areas where the common person doesn't know all the facts, Tyson has wide latitude to spin his "facts."@@rebchizelbeak5392

[@saltburner2]

It needs Gad Saad to call him out!

[@albertodesantis739]

He has always been an actor

[@sherbear8286]

Was he ever a real scientist?

[@bell770]

Neil demands no interruptions but demands the ability to interrupt others.

[@yew2oob954]

They are asking him a question and not letting him answer.

[@prodigalson5965]

@@yew2oob954 and he did the same was the point he was making

[@lolbroklol]

He's prolific Black-Science-Guy. He's above us.

[@bvyup2112]

hes not used to people actually debating him

[@Lievyon]

He's an intellectual bully.. Always had been.

[@santhiyapei5570]

alternate video title: "man pretends to be scientist and fails"

[@katyisbored]

Mind so open that his brain falls out.

[@jackbaxter-williams8059]

Lol that's a good one.

[@lamehogshit3730]

His mind is completely closed, that's the problem. Anyone with an open mind wouldn't entertain anything this moron is trying to preach to us.

[@steveclarke2072]

Tim Minchin fan?

[@savannamc407]

Lmaoooo never heard this and this is now my favorite

[@thelamington8195]

Neil is utterly unhinged. My respect for him has just transitioned to disrespect, contempt and pity.

[@wondrousmindtrick8450]

I always had mixed feelings about Neil. The guy is clearly a brilliant science communicator. He has an amazing ability to convey complex ideas in science in a way the ordinary person can understand and be engaged. He is also a loudmouth with a giant ego. He can't help but talk over other people which is a character flaw I find highly irritating.

[@ryanmiller2089]

Underrated comment

[@scottkoenig6326]

You're right. Neil is smart but has a big mouth at the same time.@@wondrousmindtrick8450

[@REGENETARIANISM]

Yep. NGT's intellectual mediocrity never ceases to amaze me. NGT is conflating gender and biological sex when these are two very different things. There are some rare chromosomal anomalies, but for the most part (99.995%), biological sex is binary: male XY and female XX. Changing external genitalia via surgery doesn't change this. A female's fertility cycle, physiology and biochemistry is very complex. Yes, gender is more fluid, and yes that's many associations many of which are cultural. But still gender and biological sex are two very different things.

[@crazygangrel]

If I’m honest, I never cared for him. I thought he was a decent science communicator who bought into his own hype. And now he’s still buying into his own hype AND he’s bought into this ideology as well. It’s compounded his own sense of self righteousness.

[@chiefsdad]

When the comedian talks facts and the scientist pushes propaganda you know that we have truly hit rock bottom

[@MattRid]

Truth! I've lost all faith in my celeb scientists. Neil is woke AF, The late S.Hawking was an Epstein fan. late Carl Sagan on the climate crisis... I used to love these dudes

[@axel_r_]

Comedians has always spoken the truth. They just convey it in a way to make fun of the reality. Seinfeld only speak of what he sees and understand. Nothing more or less. Ever. George Carlin is probably the biggest legend of speaking the truth on a level above most people, but still make everyone understand his point with comedian perspective he delivers this.

[@ceeez3072]

Someone highlight this comment!

[@brunonkowalski]

Believe me, there are also comedians who push propaganda and scientists talk facts.

[@pistonburner6448]

And no-one is smart enough to break down this issue into its actual fundamentals: The only real objective and reason for any of this to begin with is: some criminal peeping tom and flasher men want to gain access to women's locker rooms to commit the crimes of peeping on those women and indecent exposure of themselves to those women for their sexual gratification. Well, maybe for some of them the objective is purely the criminal financial benefit they gain from cheating in sports.

[@Alittlewhitewave]

We did fix the playing field. We made Male and Female sports. We have handicap sports. Let them compete with other Trans people! This is just Neil’s way of kicking the can down the road while feeling like the good guy

[@howeworth]

So why exactly is he okay with contesting hormon ratios but not okay with contesting gender with gender? Why is he okay with weight categories but not with gender as a category? Can someone explain?

[@guillermocuadra8272]

Spot on

[@craptree]

Because your strength in athleticism is based not on if you have a willy or not, but based on testosterone. Some people without Willy's have crazy high T, some people with them have very very low T. Separating by gender(which has a correlation) rather than by hormone (which is a root cause) is silly

[@michaelcavallo1290]

A comedian educating a scientist ...what strange times we live in...

[@therealcirclea762]

"Scientist." More like "Woke Scientologist"

[@nothanks3236]

He hasn't been a "scientist" since grad school. His day job is running a planetarium and has been for almost 30 years.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

he is educating neil on how to be a femiinist who defends gender quotas in parliments? Neil is educting him on how to be a libertarian.

[@mcihs2]

I suspect he is role playing “scientist”, as he demonstrates no actual scientific knowledge or principles….

[@ivanronin8209]

Neil De Grassy does not Understand Genetics and Biology ! He is Wrong ! Gender is not Fluid ! Sexual Orientations are ! Two Deferent thigs !

[@ru40342]

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.". Props to the 2 hosts for letting Neil Tyson kill his own credibility.

[@blove142]

Tyson twists his brain in knots to defend trans ideology, at the expense of his good reputation.

[@jordach545]

Neil completely schooled them lol. I've never seen people so speechless in my life.

[@theantisalessalesclubwithl5827]

Indeed

[@dimex3362]

@@jordach545never have I ever heard someone supposedly schooling somebody, with baseless suppositions. This was NDG schooling himself and making himself into a fool, same as the tailors made the emperors new clothes, school the emperor by his own hubris.

[@Tank-wt3vy]

A literal buffoon. Neil, supposed man of science, trying to socially rearrange the natural world

[@thedemogorgon6181]

i love how he smugly dismisses konstantin bringing up the fact it would still be insanely unfair for neil to have wrestled a 190 lb woman. he said he accounted for that and he didn’t. how embarrassing.

[@kevinwhelan9607]

Yesterday, I woke up feeling like...23% deGrasse Tyson. Today, I felt like...99% deGrasse Tyson. Tomorrow...I hope to ID as a black Richard Dawkins. So there. And I want deGrasse Tyson's royalties. As him. Thank you.

[@dhpitcher]

Neil is a pure example of how politics over rules science

[@seanm9337]

absolutely

[@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517]

And politics is over ruled by big money.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

nobody was talking about science in this video. thi is equity vs equaity

[@The_Greipist]

@@thorstenmarquardt7274 Biology is science, lol

[@johnjameson6751]

It is deeply sad to see such a great scientist and science popularizer being so indoctrinated by the woke movement that he can only shit out of his ass.

[@jeffcaldwell1546]

Neil deGrasse Tyson is an excellent example of what we call an "educated fool".

[@rocksummit3375]

with money on my mind, got my ten in my hand and a gleam in my eye. I'm a loc'ed out gansta, set trippin' banger and my homies is down so don't arouse my anger, FOO!

[@annettemacdonald9192]

Oh god these liberal elites are so tiresome

[@via_negativa6183]

Hes right up thier with Sam Harris at this point.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

You might disagree with him and in terms of trans women competing in sports I do as well, but he’s definitely not a fool. He has thought out positions that require thought out responses.

[@retropyro]

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp He has a scripted narrative to follow to keep him in the good graces of the Hollywood weirdos.

[@AR15user]

i lost him at “who you decide is male or female” uh, i don’t…science does

[@Onebigsocialexperiment]

NGT likes being a public figure more than being a scientist 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PapaGigi_House]

I never thought I was smarter than Neil degrasse Tyson until today… Thank you Neil..

[@sjaaktrekhaak253]

Oh he's smart alright, a least smart enough to fool himself. His problem is his vanity and his lack of humility.

[@Nome_e_Cognome]

be patient: in '92, Falcone, the most important Italian judge, was blown up with 1 ton of TNT. the mafia could have killed him with 2 gunshots a week earlier outside Sicily where he was not super protected. this created such a sensation that the state had to create special laws and prisons. the underbosses asked the mafia boss "why? it will be our end" and he said "they asked me". Who asked him to do it and why remains a mystery he took to his grave. now I have the same feeling: Who is asking the scientist to defend these unscientific and indefensible ideas? why is he spending all his credibility?

[@pauleverest]

I just burst out laughing. Love this comment. 😂 Neil has lost it

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

you aren't. you are just a feminist

[@whowantstorunforpresident5531]

Don't worry. You're not.

[@thedownsides]

Tyson's argument about male-female percentage according to how you woke up is downright ridiculous.

[@gerardomenendez8912]

He takes it in the ass in the morning.

[@josephkendall5137]

No he is 100% right I know your primitive neanderthal brain has your feelings hurt but that's ok because no one gaf 🤣🤣 but he is right by the way. It's biology until you earn your PhD you could debate Neil. Until then STFU B

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Yes. What could be clearer proof? He's aligning himself with cultists. He and they make a mockery of liberalism.

[@user-uv8sy2gd4s]

Who is he really? I would guess an actor playing a scientist, at least during this discussion.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

@@user-uv8sy2gd4s Just curious, do you see my c'ment of 12 min. before yours?

[@michellemccormack145]

Listening to tyson is like swimming in porridge.

[@howeworth]

When emotions get in the way of rational thinking...

[@rvann69218]

The fact this is even being debated seriously is terrifying

[@garethdelux9266]

No kidding, It's so crazy that I'm starting to question my own reality.. like either I've gone mad and this is all a weird delusion I'm having or like the 60% of the world has gone nuts.

[@albertodesantis739]

He has always been an actor

[@maynardtrendle820]

​@@garethdelux9266I'm with you. It feels like many of us are trying to hold our minds together as we witness the majority of the world (the western world, at least) collectively lose theirs. It makes me very sad, and VERY concerned. Something is truly, deeply wrong- and I don't know how we can possibly get over this.

[@therealcirclea762]

@@garethdelux9266 Feel helpless and ineffectual? Here is some clarification... “If you think of yourselves as helpless and ineffectual, it is certain that you will create a despotic government to be your master. The wise despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that they are helpless and ineffectual.” Frank Herbert Get it yet?

[@user-ow7yv8kz5l]

Yep 100%

[@beargenxgm]

Neil deGrasse Tyson is the single most arrogant person I've ever seen embraced by the media. Carl Sagan built bridges, Tyson just lectures and talks down to people.

[@kenhickford6581]

Tyson'??......He's a bully, and a 'Establishment' man!........Previous exposure has shown that.

[@tomround8271]

It's not that arrogant to expect every sport to completely change so men and womens physical and mental differences don't matter. All we need to do is capture a leprechaun and wish it. Easy peasy

[@Torquemadia]

@@tomround8271 Don't be absurd. A genie would be perfectly acceptable.

[@captain_context9991]

Carl Sagan didnt have to deal with todays right-wing populism and extremism, did he. People were sensible back in Carl Sagans time. And they were careful not to say stupid stuff because that would be embarrassing. People arent like that anymore. Its about "owning", "winning", and "embarrassing" people that are smarter than you now. Its a different culture. The age of the clickbait.

[@fatgeekuk]

how about Michael Eric Dyson? he does not even have science to lean on. just his own ego.

[@babulaya]

Why do we have to make harmonal change if one day we are male and on other day female

[@michaelnance5236]

This might hurt his feelings but, there a whole lot of women who wouldn't want Tyson walking into their designated spaced if he decided to wear a dress that day. I guess his answer to these actual women would be to simply call them bigots.

[@ejjames7786]

Imagine being as smart as Neil thinks he is.

[@frannyp46]

Ha ha!

[@bobsmith5185]

It’s quite tiresome, because you have to deal with morons all the time

[@RobotacularRoBob]

@@bobsmith5185imagine think NDT is smart and not a shill. Imagine thinking disagreeing with him makes a person a moron.

[@Loawercs31]

​@@bobsmith5185Remember, if everyone's a moron, it may be you who is the moron.

[@bobsmith5185]

@@RobotacularRoBob NDT is a delusional, condescending, woke shill. I never said otherwise. Try rereading what I wrote, then maybe you’ll realize how you’ve proven my point.

[@philsalley3278]

Neil wants us to "think differently" to solve a problem which had been "solved" since the beginning of time.

[@JH-nb4nn]

Haha true.

[@kelly4187]

It has never been a problem until cultural Marxists looked for something new to be the oppressor class to be oppressed, since the last 200 attempts at Marxism had failed.

[@realjoeplummer]

Neil encourages the destruction of the playing field, then points his finger at everyone else and screams "fix the playing field!"

[@tommysmith7031]

The solution is to re-arrange society to suit a small minority of it.

[@begshallots]

He misunderstands why people watch sports. It’s not to watch fairness. It’s to watch something meaningful.

[@larrydanadavid2435]

Anytime someone says “why do you care?” More often than not they’ve lost the argument

[@adityajoshi6422]

This is what happens when a physicist starts acting like he's an expert on social problems

[@doctorpaul8138]

Completely true. I'm a physicist, and I have had no training on gender issues. He's not speaking as a physicist, but (as I see it) a buffoon with an ideology who is terrified of being cancelled. I'm done with NDT.

[@deadlydanton]

Yeah, can you imagine if the opposite happened😂

[@gregoryporch8395]

I don't remember anything Stephen Hawking invented but I can tell you all about a Doomsday clock that moves backwards in time he did the mental gymnastics on.

[@SquidFox9]

Honestly I’d question anything he speaks on, even physics. The lack of logic, critical thinking he’s displayed should ensure this guy isn’t taken seriously in anything.

[@jknowstheway1462]

@adityajoshi6422 YUP

[@PeteBKK1]

I respect Konstantin so much for being able to stay calm and listen to NDT babble on like this!

[@hsmd4533]

They are brave to have him on in the first place. He loves to hear himself talk and never shuts up.

[@weallmakechoices7456]

They are intellectually superior to him and by staying quiet, sitting back and letting him rant on he exposes his arrogance and belligerent manner, and spurious ideology. It's cringeworthy to watch him self-destruct.

[@markc6411]

He was still too nice to him.

[@JasonJrake]

After Sam Harris, NdGT is easy. And they deserve sainthood for being patient with both of them.

[@IzzyBizzyBooBoo]

@@markc6411 He's an Englishman now.

[@damiengolding8258]

So because we are in a transitional phase, my daughter must fit the bill and lose all her opportunities?? No I reject that

[@gazXspace]

Stand back, hes gonna blow !!!!!

[@scottgrdina5599]

You can tell Neil never thinks he's wrong. He always thinks is he has the answer to everything and can't ever be wrong. Very telling.

[@ZappyOh]

That's a psychopathic trait.

[@samanthawhang7498]

That’s why when he can’t win an argument he turns to insults - like saying that the interviewer is being rude in interrupting, and then making a big deal about it. 😏. He always needs to be on top.

[@archaicsage4803]

Everything he has ever said is wrong. There isn't a single true statement he has ever made, about anything. Not even physics.

[@iloveminiapplepies]

Yes, it is so obvious and frustrating. He acted like that the whole interview

[@noksensangla5971]

With all due respect Neil is crazy.

[@glumberty1]

Not crazy, just dishonest and disingenuous.

[@by1310]

All due respect as in none whatsoever. His covid shot propaganda is just as bad as this

[@johncox2710]

@@glumberty1 He is in the club.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@glumberty1He's cozy with the Obamas, the DNC elite, and Hollywood. All woke af.

[@monotech20.14]

What didn't you understand about what Tyson said?

[@paulstephen100]

4:47 He should have mentioned female prisons..😂😅

[@aarongraybill4276]

"I appreciate how active your brain is, but let me finish because I've thought about this" Could not listen anymore after that.

[@kingdodgearcane]

He was trying to cut him off with something he was going to address. Put the tampon in sis.

[@joseluisvilallonga9051]

Neil cherry picks science as he chooses. Also, gets very heated anytime someone dares to contradict him. What a great embassador for science he is.

[@1966johnnywayne]

You can take the scientist out of the ghetto..

[@axhed]

Moar liek embarrassador amirite?

[@albertodesantis739]

He has always been an actor

[@vladeputinovic6128]

He was talking utter nonsense and he was let to get away... his solutions are totally idiotic and so unpractical for dozens of reasons..

[@kimmypossible6717]

Japp. He’s using rhetorical methods of downgrading the person he’s talking to. Ad hominem approach, loads of wordy BS, but not letting the other person finish their argument. And what kind of argument is “what do you care”??! The dumbest of them all. Gosh this dude, unbelievable.

[@scoobykitty]

I'm so sick of people who want to pretend that the bathroom issue isn't important. Years ago,before all this controversy,I had a female friend who was raped in a gender neutral bathroom. To hear a scientist talk this way is very disturbing. I'll never again be able to take anything that man says seriously. He is so afraid of being cancelled What a coward!

[@albertodesantis739]

He has always been an actor

[@brian81877]

Yeah, similar to Howard stern. He was probably told to fall in line or else they will come after him.

[@loydeallen6312]

He's not scared of being cancelled, he's legitimately brainwashed by the agenda.

[@propheteyebert7063]

"Solution is simple. Fix the underlying problem behind rape" --Tyson

[@adeosinowo3197]

its horrible that horror was visited upon your friend but the gender neutraul bathroom was not the key component in that crime. incidentally i dont agree with NDT on this subject. my point is Evil people will do Evil things regardless of which Gender they wish to Identify with.

[@TheoWrigt]

When you lose your ground, you Paddle in subtle precautions and distinctions…

[@Tutukane_]

He won’t stop interrupting and demands you allow him to finish his points

[@carlitoab]

It's amazing that a guy who is trained in science and logic could become wrapped up in this insane ideology

[@cupcake8867]

Gender ideology is utter nonsense.

[@ronnypopona2589]

maybe that training wasn't so good?

[@small_joys2022]

What are his qualifications? The man owned a shop and studied pluto. Does that make him a qualified scientist?

[@CompactCognition]

He’s bought by the matrix

[@QcLetsPlay]

His pocket are wrapped up with the ideology.

[@raiden031]

Most bathrooms i have ever visited have not solved this problem

[@ecztimes]

The solution he keeps asking for was already in place!

[@Jackklassen]

Thanks Tyson. I’ve never been black, but I woke up today feeling 80% black. I now understand all of the persecution that we blacks have felt these past 400 years and I cannot wait until my reparations come. Unite fellow black men, hallelujah!

[@pennydee]

I've just spit my tea out 🤣

[@thomgizziz]

"I now understand all of the persecution that we blacks have felt these past 400 years" That is an absurd statement by itself. Do you feel all the hardships of your ancestors? The fact people think this is a valid argument is insane.

[@sev2300]

@@thomgizzizyou need help.

[@HUGEACT-MAN]

​@@thomgizzizya, you obviously don't understand.

[@Elegyforthend]

@@thomgizzizpoor reading comprehension

[@frankcloutier5495]

I have lost so much respect for Neil Degrasse Tyson over the years. He only seems intelligent to anyone who is incapable to think critically

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

I'm sure he's intelligent when he's talking about things he actually knows a great deal about, instead of this gender gibberish.

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

No, I'm pretty sure he 100% knows what he is saying is bullshit.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

IF HE STAYS IN HIS LANE he is brilliant but his lane is narrow and he pretends hes on an 8 lane freeway

[@saltburner2]

@@AcidifiedMammoth When bullshit is baptised with wokery it becomes the pearl of great price.

[@saltburner2]

@@ripvanwinkle2002 ...with no lane discipline!

[@jackstoepfer1494]

Seen this many times. Usually happens when someone’s kid pretends to be a different sex and the adult doesn’t want to hurt feelings speaking the truth.

[@ajudicator]

Funny how in this there’s no actual discussion of scale. In society there are always outliers

[@gardyloo3093]

It's so sad to see a formerly intelligent man like this making a fool of himself stumbling through nonsensical points just to try to justify the brainwashing that he's fallen under.

[@bighoss1860]

I dont think hes brainwashed tbh, i think hes just towing the line because he thinks he will get cancelled if he doesnt. It shows from his absolute inability to make real or any kind of convincing argument, its like hes just saying things he knows are going to instantly be refuted, but hes doing it anyway just so he has said it so he doesnt get cancelled.

[@mmm-mq3zr]

He was never intelligent, it was always an act.

[@forposterity4031]

he's not brainwashed, he's been bought. Push the narrative and receive speaking jobs at conventions, news interviews, etc. He's gets paid a lot of money to push things he knows aren't true. A fools salary is very high these days.

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

It might be that he lives and works in academia and the media and hence he gets soaked in the trans ideology.

[@reekinronald6776]

Was he ever intelligent or was he a manufactured product? All those popular science programs, who wrote the words he spoke? Was he just a figure head with the right....um...physical characteristics desired by the puppet masters?

[@TheVintageDownhillMounta-io8pp]

Neil has become a full blown ideological sophist.

[@tonyc223]

Plus a full blown narcissist. Witch was on full display today.

[@ronnymcdonald2543]

@@tonyc223 The funny part of that sentence is you probably use the correct spelling of WITCH lol

[@lelandbjerg1187]

He's wrong. I feel like he's stepping into this conversation with naive ideas about gender from 15 years ago, but he's not a sophist. He's on Triggernometry having the conversation for cryin' out loud. I think the man should get props for having the convo.

[@TheVintageDownhillMounta-io8pp]

maybe you need to look up the definition of sophist@@lelandbjerg1187

[@MrBannystar]

@@lelandbjerg1187 Why should he get any props for doing an interview? He doesn't deserve a medal for making himself look like an utter fool.

[@peternewcombe328]

This is why scientific people are vulnerable. If you think about his perception of physical reality and the universe as fluid, then it follows that everything else can be fluid. He is coming up with a hypothesis to explain what he observes.

[@parineettyagi9412]

Dude transitioned from Man of Schience to Man of Social "Science"

[@aelfredrex8354]

He's not a scientist. He just plays one on TV.

[@bobsmith5185]

And NDT plays a delusional blithering moron on KZbin

[@Bobblers07]

Narcissist rather than scientist!

[@NewOrleansSeptember]

I realized Neil Tyson was a science grifter a number of years ago.

[@maryandrew1059]

Absolutely

[@margaret928]

completely! I am just realizing this and I am stunned listening to him talk. He is so patronizing and pig headed, he sounds like a snake oil salesman with a fancy degree.

[@journeyintococo6996]

Yep.

[@otto-xl2xz]

He's a lot closer to Bill Nye the Science guy than anyone knew.

[@jakubsedlak2173]

What was the moment he lost you?

[@motorcitycobra2009]

‘I would ask why you have the shortlist in the first place’ = I can’t or won’t answer the questions because it goes against my position in it’s entirety

[@lynnebarnes3840]

This guy is one of the reasons people don't trust scientists.

[@albertodesantis739]

He has always been an actor

[@totalassuage]

He is just to far of his field of expertiese. He is under the illusion that he han outthink the problem with logic without challenging the basal axioms. Logic and the scientific method only works when you are free to evaluate, challenge and change the axiom when it does not fit reality, he is trying to use a posteriori methods on a a priori matrix, without noticing the quagmire he has stepped in and that he is sinking in to it. Probably he is so afraid of not being seen as a good person (because of alledged sexoffense shenanigans in his youth), so he tries to adhere to what the woke see as being good. With such constraints anyone would look like a fool when debating with someone without such constraints.

[@davidadrain8656]

he is not defending his ideas, he is trying to defend his position in the media

[@danielberry4765]

That is one of the most concise and cutting comments I have ever seen on KZbin.

[@user-ow7yv8kz5l]

Bingo. He's a sellout

[@matthewfindlay9010]

When you ignore the science that you have built your whole career on you have been indoctrinated. Ideology is the complete opposite to actual definitive science. The man is a fool

[@16m49x3]

yep, he will change his tune as soon as the wind blows the other way

[@jeffwy5164]

Can I get an amen from the choir

[@jessie38supercharged]

Dude in the middle is exceedingly British

[@unbridledmayo]

One massive problem here is prisons

[@gifthorse3675]

He doesn’t want to be kicked out of the cult so now he’s spewing this BS.

[@hugh-johnfleming289]

He got rich, very rich, selling this BS...

[@CristiNeagu]

I don't think so. I think he's genuine. He just does not understand what the argument is actually about. He's approaching things from his perspective not realising that his perspective is not shared by anyone else.

[@ge2719]

Exactly. He knows if he doesnt pish this bs then he will never get another multi hundred thousand dollar speaking gig ever again. Yet he does also seem to have rationalised it to himself. So hes a pos and a moron.

[@hague444]

Hes got skeletons in his closet. They tried to get him once with the metoo movement and know he's terrified and tries to ass lick every left wing ideology

[@NickyM_0]

@@CristiNeagu Nooooo. He's looking down the barrel of a pistol and reciting the script to the masses. Normally he wouldn't even be involved in talking about this bs.

[@1ofmanymikes]

What a great move to just let Tyson talk. People need to see how crazy he’s become. Great job!

[@D-Fens_1632]

It's kind of the other way around though, you have to wait for a 5 second gap where Neil grants you permission to talk.

[@gregoryporch8395]

This is what "turn the other cheek" looks like in real life. It's about staying civilized when your opponent is an asshole.

[@simondavis750]

He is like Ben Shapiro. They way he bombastically over dramatizes his mannerisms and speech patterns makes you think what he is saying has gravitas and depth but it is a baffle because the words he is saying are empty. It is made to make you think he is so confident in what he says. But he can't hide his body language. He is terrible at it. Several points he was visibly shaking. He was trying to explain how enlightened their bathrooms are. He literally just described a bathroom. The problem isn't that there aren't small dividers between stalls mate, its that people can still look and touch over those things.

[@thatgrip]

He really is an ass. He's the public face of modern science - illogical, irrational, emotional, egotistical.

[@mamabug4629]

@@simondavis750 Bathrooms have, IMO, always been the 'easy' win which masks the real harm. It is relatively simple to create private spaces in a bathroom, the real issue is the underlying principle of 'women (female) only spaces.' I don't care about bathrooms. I care how you can prove voyeurism and exhibitionism - known sexual crimes committed overwhelming against women - if you have locker rooms, spas, and other spaces where anyone can 'self identify' as a woman and enter. I am still waiting for someone, anyone, to give me a definition of the word 'woman' that neither relies on biology nor on stereotypes yet still retains enough meaning you could legally classify someone as one. Maybe I'll consider the 'trans women are women' point as possibly valid if anyone could do it.

[@steveclarke2072]

His idea of weight categories hold a little water, right up until some guy chokes out a women in the Octagon and the world goes insane!!

[@asmitachatterjee8979]

In India there are reservations in primary and secondary, higher education and many departments in govt jobs, including parliamentary seats. There are close to 30% seats are reserved for women.

[@achillesweir3156]

Niel Degrasse has gone nuts to the point where he's delusional

[@rynolascavio3381]

and gets pissed about even having to explain it

[@antlures845]

His tone resembles that oh Bill Cosbys

[@Zrizzy7]

it is actually wild how deluded he is, I could have never imagined

[@achillesweir3156]

@@rynolascavio3381 I know I noticed that with Neil Degrasse in all lefties they cannot take others opinions because they freak but f*** out

[@larryzink8978]

First time I saw him I got slick Willie, Barry Obama Narcissist vibes...He gaslights better than Willie, but not as good as Barry.

[@cuteanimalseverywhere7620]

Kudos to the guys for staying calm in the face of such nonsense!

[@mattg3789]

The boys had their hands full with this drama queen.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

meritocracy is only nonsense to woke leftists

[@GlomusIridescens]

They looked both thoroughly saddened and somewhat amused that he was doubling down in the name of maintaining the rhetoric.

[@madelainepetrin1430]

I'm getting so fed up, I can't stand listening to this really idiotic guy. What a bore!

[@lalaivey189]

why should I have to wake up go to my pool and look at a penis I never wanted to see in my women’s change room feel who you want to be but your comfort as a trans man is more important than my comfort as a woman NEIL YOU HAVE MADE ME SAD YOUR ONE OFF IS SAD

[@MadsFeierskov]

Prisons, battered women's shelters, support groups etc. But honestly, it doesn't matter how numerous they are, what matters is that it's important that they are there.

[@michaelatkinson4815]

To me Neil's focus on 'fixing the playing field' makes sense. If some part of society is unfair for one group the solution surely lies in making it more fair

[@galileostongue4538]

Neil convinced me he was right by shouting.

[@nicotoscani1707]

he felt the need to shout cos his argument was losing ground

[@karstenfrank]

And by using sweet sounding words like: creative, together and solving 😀

[@lauralee6628]

RACE is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

[@erindeerhart5538]

​@@lauralee6628That IS actually true!

[@nicotoscani1707]

@@lauralee6628 i dont see skin colors.. i guess this means i'm not a democrat

[@cyber-yo9378]

Thanks for exposing this guy’s wackiness. How disappointing, but important to know where we stand with Neil.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

because he is not a feminist?

[@nickyalousakis3851]

Neil is a smart guy in astro physics. however i don't need a bachelor of sociology to know BS when I hear it. Neils opinions on social issues are at everyone's level. when it comes to astro physics only a peer can challenge him.... i cannot. but i can certainly challenge him on social issues..... esp when his words don't come out sounding too intelligent on these social issues.

[@Crypt0n1an]

I’ve known him to be a crackpot for at least 5 years now, nothing new. NOT a man of science, a “science communicator” the likes of the Science guy and other half baked looney tunes.

[@thorstenmarquardt7274]

@@nickyalousakis3851 supporting gender quotas doesn’t make you a specialist on public policy. It just makes you a woke feminist

[@joeblow1942]

He exposed himself as a fraud awhile ago with his climate change hoax BS.

[@Jimbobiscuit]

Ask him if Parliament was 50% Men and 50% transwomen would that be fair on women?

[@anigamex1031]

Another example of important gendered areas are rape crisis centre's, where a persons genitalia is very important considering who those spaces are for. And are also important as many are being being shut down for excluding biological men.

[@Lerium]

I legit can't believe I ever respected this guy.

[@urbinblytte429]

i cant believe anyone ever did.

[@lenn2046]

Because of one issue that occurs rarely you disagree with, your whole view of him has changed, how pathetic :')

[@Toastergod44]

@@lenn2046when that one issue is so detached from reality that it brings his entire view of the world into question along with his credibility as a scientist, yes. But please, simp harder

[@BatZie]

I never have. I have forever found him obnoxious, especially his habit of talking over people.

[@truthwizard]

Believe and attack the arguments and ideas not the person. People are prone to say and do idiotic things. No authority can change truth.

[@sirreptitious6645]

I’m usually white, but tomorrow I might feel 80% black, why should you care? I’m just expressing my freedom.

[@ka92010rock]

To be fair many scientists would argue race is a social construct.

[@GordieGii]

@@ka92010rock Technically 'race' is a social construct, but it has useful aspects and it is also prone to abuse. We all come from Africa, just as all dog breeds come from wolves. Different dog breeds are prone to different genetic proclivities and medical conditions, but they are all equally worthy. (except chihuahuas)

[@hughtube5154]

@@ka92010rock but built around objective, biological realities, no?

[@fbinformant]

​@@ka92010rocklanguage is literally a social construct. Social construct doesn't mean "not real"

[@havu2236]

@@GordieGiiHowever when you dig up a body science can tell if it's a female or a male. Not that they were a transgender.

[@caltriton6904]

I've never in my life woken up and wanted to apply makeup. I'm a dude that's why.

[@Frank-nh9fe]

“Solvable problem”, easy enough for a large man to say. But I suspect that if he was in the ladies room communal space, some women would think otherwise. Wrestling has weight classes, most other sports cannot be split fairly, and even with weight classes it does not really solve the problem.

[@asianj3sus862]

From scientist to clown in a short amount of time. This is what this guy represents.

[@andreasrumpf9012]

Dunno, I think he always was a "diversity hire". You cannot give the poor black kid bad grades, so he made his way up all to a PhD.

[@sample479]

Was never a scientist. We need to stop this "he has a degree in ... that makes him a ...". It's the worst form of the fallacy from authority. He's not published. He has no lab. He has no grants. He was chosen to run the public-facing portion of a pretty important observatory because he's good at speaking and "motivating young people".

[@CC_70]

He was always a clown.

[@Crismans843]

I take your point, but he’s been sketchy for years.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

@@sample479 I didn't realize he had next to no credentials. Now it all makes sense

[@lordhashimoto4035]

Since he turned the debate to racism, a good follow-up question could have been, "so can a person identify as a different race"

[@bobwilliams4895]

Or can we identify as other species?

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

NO the CONSENSUS in the MEDIA isn't that someone can change his race, so I don't believe that!

[@IGotNewsForYou987]

His head would've exploded

[@sublime8728]

people have and do identify as a different race.

[@heavymetalbanshee]

Ye exactly because if gender can be based on how I present myself. If a man wants to wear makeup and make his jaw look smaller and eyes look more feminine. And be a woman. Why can't someone apply dark tan and makeup to darken or lighten their skin to present as a different race, if they FEEL they identify with another culture more and want to be Asian for example... like plenty white people love Asian culture say. And may dress in the way the trends are popular over there and act a certain way. Like cutesy shy personality and wacky clothes or whatever... they aren't claiming to be Asian they just like that vibe and fashion. Dress however you wanna dress. Look however you wanna look, makeup, surgery, whatever. Don't claim to be something you are not. The social contagion has gone wild.

[@grdnmellesmoen9845]

How can someone so bad at forming an argument be so well loved

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

If it ain’t broken don’t fix it. The problem is not the playing field it’s the players trying to play on it. For someone so smart he sure did make himself sound so stupid.

[@alexjefferson5451]

Does anyone think that Neil might have been on a private island recently that the elites are holding over his head 😅

[@gnomesayin1911]

neil is a perfect example of how we can be smart and stupid at the same time.

[@bha1246]

Haha

[@jeromehansen3969]

There is an increasing amount of these people. Hurts to see this

[@NousoftheSupreme]

Or just stupid stupid

[@Deep.Purple]

Wise fools

[@majedtaleb3944]

He’s not smart. He just benefited from affirmative action

[@deniseb2571]

Tyson is very rude. So a little 5 year old girl has to go into the same communal bathroom as a 60 year old man?! NO! Bad policy is being created based on bad "science"

[@LowlyEidolon]

It was my understanding he was talking about changing facilities and not bathrooms, wash rooms or toilets. My question is this, who sends their 5 year old into the toilet alone?

[@nmpolo]

Yeah, I totally fail to see how having separate stools in the same communal bathrooms solved anything. What happened to the urinals? Do guys now have to queue for ages to go for a piss because of this 'solution'?

[@MatthewBerginGarage]

I'm not really sure what it is but it is certainly not "SCIENCE".

[@rebchizelbeak5392]

@@LowlyEidolonwho would send a 5 year old into a bathroom alone? A father. One that knows a man won’t be in there because it is a WOMANs bathroom. You know that kids go to school at 4 or 5 alone, right?

[@moodyonroody5313]

@@rebchizelbeak5392 but we still have separate girls and boys toilets at most schools - and both separated from adult loos.

[@einsteinium2]

I was thinking about the problem in the reserved seats for women in the parliament..we'll have reserved seats for transgender as well. They are also underrepresented

[@thatsrealroughbud...2394]

If being female is about makeup, being Black is just about PERCEIVED skin colour, then Rachel Dolezol is just as Black as Neil. She’s just expressing herself and that’s her freedom to do so. She can also apparently take up resources, spaces and accolades meant for Black people.

[@kevinwhelan9607]

Good for you - more please!

[@kstone5212]

Good point! Why didn't he get out there and defend her as a member of the black community when she was exposed? Oh yeah, because she's a woman and he only interested in more rights for men.

[@rmarques8156]

If you put race into that debate, even the left won't know what to say. If gender is a spectrum, what about race, height, weight or any physical quality? Can people be literally what they want? Rachel Dolezol is a good example, now I've seen kids and adults that identify as animals. There's no limits anymore...

[@aoflex]

Actually, I don't think that there should be specific resources, spaces, or accolades only for specific races. So I'm fine with these weirdos who try to change their race.

[@fbcpraise]

Well said.

[@stitch2642]

Neil is proof that scientist have been ideologically captured/blinded.

[@Hindu9054]

that idiot was keep on interrupting Neil deGrasse Tyson. neil has said everything logically correct

[@ginojaco]

No, he is proof that ONE scientist has been... 👍

[@kirkchurchil8216]

Scientists are humans like any other they have always been bias and had egos. The scientific field in reality is probably one of the most toxic when it comes to opinion. Think about dedicating 30-40 years of your life to an idea just to have someone else come say your wrong or in reverse think about if you proved something that was accepted by science to be true for 100 years by thousands of other scientists to be wrong how much push back you would get. Compound all of that with if your wrong you could lose your income source.

[@0b3ryn29]

​@@ginojaco scientists were always ideological. scientists are humans and everyone has a bias.

[@garygranato9164]

100% science has been bastardized for a long while. ps 4 replies but i only see 2 !!!

[@sixdollar4117]

In the words of Redd Foxx, "Say no, dummy!"

[@BricksAndSparrows]

I would love to hear Neil’s “fix the damn playing field” argument applied to Affirmative Action.

[@JC.Rosario]

This is what happens when you believe your degrees make you smarter than what you really are. This man has lost his mind.

[@JimC]

Rather, he thinks his PhD in astrophysics makes him an expert in other subjects due to his rational scientist's mind. He's not the only expert like that.

[@vansan2120]

Totally a buffoon

[@intensepete430]

Neil has started to believe in himself more than he belives the science.

[@avv397]

brilliant

[@TravelCostaRicaNOW]

exactly. nice one.

[@lateralhistory]

His ego has eclipsed his conscience, his critical thinking skills, and soon, the sun