Good take on the S70. Definitely glad to see Proton keeping up with times and continue to expand their range of customers. Personally I would already expect Geely-based vehicles to no longer have the "Proton ride and handling" but instead gain vast improvements in other areas Proton used to lag behind.
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
That's a fair statement. The enthusiasts among us will always miss the sweet handling of the Waja, Neo, and Gen.2, but as a company, Proton's number one obligation is to make stuff that people want to buy.
@ngyc629411 ай бұрын
@@KonWaiLuen True, unfortunately the demand and trend for cars seem to be evolving into mere travel 'appliances' with added safety and creature comforts. Try telling people the satisfaction when a smooth manual gear change is made or how you navigated thru a series of bends right on the apex and most likely most will think you're mad.
@anonymed789811 ай бұрын
@@KonWaiLuen I think in the proton era is only the engine issues... other gadgets stuff is not common car, unless luxury conti cars that have many features, still with ride and handling like preve its comfort enough...
@guhapooinpatarsan285310 ай бұрын
@@anonymed7898S70 is nowhere near Preve in handling.
@ahmadzahara.w.96729 ай бұрын
I've use Proton Saga 1.3 pass 5 years. Fantastic great driven car. S70 looks set to be quite an engaging car I believe. Hope the Lotus handling still there. Well done. 😊
@truckman712311 ай бұрын
23:05 grass cutters beside the slalom track. Proton really confidence about its handling?
@poovaneswaransupramaniam1911 ай бұрын
Nice review kon...the lady that photobombed your video....seems to enjoy your company
@xyumomo11 ай бұрын
Hey Kon, great review! Does this have the magic Ride & Handling like your Persona? What’s your thoughts on it? Coming from Proton Preve user
@arx11711 ай бұрын
Noor, there's no proton rider and handling because it's geely car. Need to wait persona and saga replacement in 2025
@chaiyya34511 ай бұрын
Hi Kon, so are u considering buying 1, if the price within ur budget?
@chtay10611 ай бұрын
Noticed the car in the instrument panel was moving when the autual car was actually stationary! I Safety features were backed by a sole camera mounted on the front windscreen, think this is inadequate!
@fauxvier851911 ай бұрын
Cant say i actually care about the car but the vid was still very informative and fun to watch! Also, my heart kinda breaks when u mention Proton is now a rich pipol brand :(
@tanweng253511 ай бұрын
He say the truth the car maybe cheap but the parts is not cheap
@kawaito_pixel10 ай бұрын
Seronok ni pandu jalan Grik. Lain kali kena buat persiapan yang lebih baik.. takkan mereka nak buat silap dua kali..😊😊😊😊😊
@stsallace11 ай бұрын
Well presented Wai Luen than the others. You were candid in your comparison of the A class, 218 and the S70 and also the drag race.
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video
@ffh230311 ай бұрын
How's the steering feel? I drove an X50 extensively before and the steering was lifeless compared to a Subaru XV which much better.
@GF-mf7ml10 ай бұрын
It will feel the same. Steering now a days don't feel anything unless you buy civic type R.
@anonymed78989 ай бұрын
@@GF-mf7ml civic hybrid
@ekhow88810 ай бұрын
Without paddle shifters, any problem when overtaking other vehicles?
@GF-mf7ml10 ай бұрын
Use 7 speed Dual clutch transmission, no paddle shift. 🤦
@DannyChewww11 ай бұрын
Is the second chicane purposely placed to face the tree? Proton trusting their safety and handling
@pudingaomar634111 ай бұрын
Proton used thinner torsion beam for better articulation maybe?
@metallutca11 ай бұрын
Ok ke the handling? Many reviewers seems not that impressed. Seems like below expectation for a Proton.
@ridwankhalil199811 ай бұрын
It's a geely not real proton
@anonymed789811 ай бұрын
@@ridwankhalil1998so the years of proton engineers will tuning the new car handling its already over is it?
@teofilol266611 ай бұрын
Mau pi racing ka?😂handering handering
@teofilol266611 ай бұрын
Proton lagi ada ride & handling betulka😂😂
@theoriconcomet693911 ай бұрын
It's chinese dna, not real proton handling. Even the vios handles better than s70
@encikeijaz257710 ай бұрын
Sy nak beli satu s70.. sy suka sgt, smoga urusanku dprmudahkan..
@KonWaiLuen10 ай бұрын
kita doakan yang terbaik untuk you
@lorenzoo21311 ай бұрын
you're no old skol, multilink suspension suspension will ended up a lot batter compare to torsion beam
@ayabass11 ай бұрын
Honestly I think it's the best sub 100k sedan, IF Proton does price it competitively. However if the flagship is 100k upwards then it will lose against Civic for sure.
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
My guess is they want to try their best to squeeze the Flagship X at RM99k before on-road costs
@aircommandslipperz11 ай бұрын
i would like to see a drag race between s70, civic and corolla altis..maybe civic will win, but interesting to see what will happen between NA corolla and turbo s70..
@mr123undead11 ай бұрын
Corolla is like 11 or 12sec 0 to 100 😂, ex5 maybe can tapao
@pudingaomar634111 ай бұрын
Civic pick up will be drowned by its CVT.despite with higher hp
@mykolkei94511 ай бұрын
@@pudingaomar6341The service center will be civic next stop. Cause the cvt will want to be serviced.. Honda common problem.
@GF-mf7ml10 ай бұрын
Newer cars use CVT, they are slow from stop. The problem with proton is it's not cheap to maintain and quality not good enough. Japanese car brand also have problems like CVT only no other transmission. I hate new cars. The older 5 speed Honda are way more fun to drive.
@ryuhayashi9711 ай бұрын
Without radar, won't that compromise the ICC detectability on rainy days?
@azizwahid844311 ай бұрын
Don't use lorr in the rain😂
@sagrodasia11 ай бұрын
I agree in the position. I’m still sceptical in proton after sales service. Back room support and resale value count too
@GF-mf7ml10 ай бұрын
Perodua buy new, proton buy used, electric cars lease it.
@davidc275811 ай бұрын
Why drive mode on screen, so inconvenient yo.
@incisor7811 ай бұрын
Looks like you got to sit very near the dashboard to keep on fiddling with the settings🤣
@hzqqqqqq9 ай бұрын
Hi Kon. compared to new city and vios, does proton have better handling?
@viggensaab202011 ай бұрын
Any reason why they don't drag with the A class and 2 series.
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
Hahahaha... I asked that too!!
@Kalvin7085 ай бұрын
But isn’t s70 a c segment car?
@Seramics11 ай бұрын
The caption look like RiderATH is driving.
@germaineliew201211 ай бұрын
Last time I've test driven a X50, I wasn't all so impressed with its driving experience. The ride and handling is overall just ok, expected out of a crossover. The DNA that you'd expect from a Proton, is definitely not there. I see a number of people who have X50's and X70's, sharing the same sentiment even when compared to its direct Japanese competitor. Thus, I'm not sure if the S70 will fair significatly better than the B and C segment competitors. Maybe the lower height of a sedan would help to an extent I guess.
@Internet_God11 ай бұрын
Its already not the proton of the old days lah..now is just geely rebadged as proton..it could be any name
@germaineliew201211 ай бұрын
@@Internet_God Yet Proton still wants to heavily emphasise on their ride and handling, when we know that it isn't Geely's priority to begin with.
@Johnmith62611 ай бұрын
The geely stuff can't compare with a Persona from 2014 in terms of ride and handling but you get lot of gadgets, power and aesthetics la
@germaineliew201211 ай бұрын
@@Johnmith626All those gadgets, but still no Android Auto/Apple CarPlay. It's not like GKUI was particularly good either last I tried it on the X50.
@MitchelAmore11 ай бұрын
Only Proton original product maintains their top notch handling and ride expectations from customers. Those rebadged Geely just crap
@JJJJ-hq4xd11 ай бұрын
Bro, why vios brake so far away from the rest? 🥴🥴
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
It took the longest to reach 100km/h
@david4710411 ай бұрын
What type of dual clutch is ths? So sluggish
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
Geely's in-house DCT, first introduced in the X70 and now also used in the X50 and X90.
@elwinbu592611 ай бұрын
How's the NVH 🤔
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
Pretty good as far as the driving experience of the day was concerned
@Zim___11 ай бұрын
It misses a multilink and pedal shifter. It should be the Persona replacement not Prévé.
@germaineliew201211 ай бұрын
Size and performance wise, it is closer to a C segment than the typical B. Although most C segs have independent rears, it's not rare to see some of them having torsion beam rear. Notably the current gen Mazda 3, the older Altis, some of the lower Korean and European C seg too. It is a downgrade, but I'm guessing that's more to do with cost cutting on Geely's part. I'm not even sure if any of the Emgrand the S70 is based on has independent rears. As much as Proton wants to emphasise on ride and handling on the new sedan, it's never really Geely's priority, and it's not like the existing Geely rebadges excel in that department as much as what Proton's in house work was known for.
@dragonballtorture11 ай бұрын
@@germaineliew2012is it too much to say that all the proton engineer's time and effort "berguru" with lotus all went down the drain following geely's lead?
@germaineliew201211 ай бұрын
@@dragonballtorture Considering I see the downfall of many car brands I used to fanboy about, I may have taken the topic way too deeply.
@anonymed789811 ай бұрын
@@dragonballtorturethe handling is just not tuning by the steering, suspension..but also the body chasis make the car more stable..more like the hpf body chasis is not based from proton..for new proton car generation... right?
@thurston90510 ай бұрын
Murah. Don’t expect too much. Issue is , ada spare parts tak?
@SafianTV11 ай бұрын
They put s70 in C segmen with torsion beam rear suspension n drag race with a normal 1.5 city not hybrid. Hahahah.even in PH it is a B segment. Same size but different segment. Mayb proton have to put in C segment to make it kore berbaloi compare to japanese rival
@mr123undead11 ай бұрын
Nak lawan C segment?? Proton= okok! mai bawa Ah Chai punya corolla 1.8 drag dgn s70 kami😂
@davidletterboyz11 ай бұрын
But PH ones are 1.5NA. Not turbo. If Proton also brings 1.5NA and markets it as B seg, then what about the Persona?
@allsaddam11 ай бұрын
thank you for making recap video of last video, I almost forgot everything what I saw a few hours ago. ha ha
@ngeo8811 ай бұрын
Waja is the best 😂
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
This, I won't argue. Haha
@yugadevankrishnamuthi563711 ай бұрын
Too advanced, it detects the blue colored X50 ahead on display with ICC turned on.
@rockyroshi11 ай бұрын
S70 or second hand w204 c200 ?
@Daniel-cj6sg11 ай бұрын
0-100km/h or above 190km/h no match for any Proton Models. Conti is conti, try for yourself and don’t compare.
@mr123undead11 ай бұрын
Bro, if you can afford bengkel all the time 😂
@Daniel-cj6sg11 ай бұрын
@@mr123undead Clearly you and your friends are from B40, CGI engines or later are all reliable cars even the manual says the car is build for 10 years or more.
@Lelouch-fv9yx10 ай бұрын
@@Daniel-cj6sgagreed. conti accel and top speed way above asian cars. i drove mazda turbo 2.2diesel, 1.8 passat beat me without sweat
@dannyyong7511 ай бұрын
Why cut away from the cute girl at the start of the video? 😂
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oISzm6ZjaZaLaK8 More of Julie's goodness here
@tanweng253511 ай бұрын
Pretty obvious they put vios n city on the test with s70 to show u s70 is more superior than T n H brand 😂.
@whinpang229210 ай бұрын
Show the Car or your face ?
@KonWaiLuen10 ай бұрын
A lot of people say rather not see my face ma haha
@Internet_God11 ай бұрын
Lotus handling?...more like tau fu fah handling..lol
@shhhhhh8611 ай бұрын
No manual...ahhhh
@mykolkei94511 ай бұрын
Nobody drive manual on normal car anymore. Manual reserved only for the sport car. Haiyaaa Type r has manual or the corolla gr, you can choose 😂😂
@GF-mf7ml10 ай бұрын
They are showing the car drive it self, it's for people who hate driving. For car guys they don't care, in Sarawak Sabah our road sometimes don't even have road land basically useless.
@wilsonwong99610 ай бұрын
The acceleration test with vios and city is a joke. The test should be pit against the Civic, both are 1.5 turbo charger car.
@KonWaiLuen10 ай бұрын
Hahaha... I did raise that question,, but pretty sure S70 would come out 2nd best against the Civic la.
@mohdazkhir510510 ай бұрын
Heii proton...mana lotus handling nya yang asal??the best handling jn the world!!bodoo lah proto ni..x habis habis nk modified proton cars..
@ac-kj9lb11 ай бұрын
YOU ARE BIASED. How can you drive the Vios in D mode when you drive the S70 in S mode in a comparison test. When you do this, obviously the Vios will perform and lose badly. I think you are extremely bias against the Vios. It is totally unfair
@KonWaiLuen11 ай бұрын
Because I got into the car and just started driving. My mistake, but why would I be biased against the Vios?
@khairulannuarahamid362311 ай бұрын
City and vios is cvt. S79 is dct. That alone is a major diffference.