Korean Protoss just hits different... | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck

[@Supergoon1989]

He just clumped the Vikings at the end and stood still in the storms for the entire duration. no reaction whatsoever.

[@true_xander]

So the fact that the guy built 20 marauders vs air toss doesn't bothers you?

[@allhailderpfestor4839]

Dude was microing maradeurs against skytoss while letting vikings and ghosts die. Truly a genius

[@phelanwolf6747]

@@true_xanderto be fair he build most of them early on and never lost them but he should have stopped producing them in favor of Vikings/Liberators and he should have traded them out to build more Vikings/Liberators. Having Marauder run bys or drops into the Protoss base would have helped a lot in keeping the Protoss occupied while freeing up supply for Vikings/Liberators. I feel like mass Liberators are much better in these clumped up air battles because of their splash damage. For instance, you did notice that his Vikings were shooting Interceptors thus wasting their firepower, Liberators would have hit multiple Interceptors in one volley and likely Phoenixes and Carriers as well and killed most of them. He also did the rotations way to quickly, he could have killed all the transfering workers multiple times but withdrew his entire army even before the Protoss army was close.

[@Supergoon1989]

@@true_xander Well yeah, that as well, obviously. but he already had those from early game. they should have been sent on a suicide mission to snipe another base. - and in his defence, as soon as he noticed it was air-toss he stopped building marauders and went full vikings.

[@Supergoon1989]

@@phelanwolf6747 libs air damage is trash, mate. tickle damage is still tickle damage even when it's splash.

[@MrZAPPER1000]

"I dropped some Widow mines and killed all the probes in one of his bases" "but then due to a small mechanical mistake..." man im so sorry to hear that that must be tough

[@halqthedarktemplar]

"If 9 seconds is a long time for you, then I pity your girlfriend" 10:32

[@ZerglingLover]

i heard that and immediately came down here to comment on it. damn, harstem, chill

[@SawomirSosinski]

The amount of hate towards any other than Protoss players (or i even going to say straightfoward - terran players) is going off the limits in the series. Its not funny even. Its pure trash rabble mixed with pure BM, and @harstem is behaving like typical ladder smurf protoss player, who won and will toss a flow of insults thowards beaten one to heal his hurt EGO instead on focusing on educational values that were supposed to be present here.

[@ZerglingLover]

@@SawomirSosinski lmao you’re a Terran crying about Harstem not agreeing with you that Protoss is imba. cope. this is literally just free coaching with funny analogies and light-hearted insults that are, quite frankly, correct. You pretending Harstem is incorrect because he’s mean is an ad hominem.

[@KelazhurSC2]

@@SawomirSosinski Found Amaris

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

@@SawomirSosinskiSend a IODIS! Perhaps you will be the chosen one who will make him see the light!

[@nicolapodgornik6644]

Harstem: 9 seconds is not “late” Also Harstem: your gateway is 2 seconds too slow, you suck

[@NeoBladeSC2]

Two completely different things: Here is a third Nexus 9 seconds later than his CC. A 2-Second-Late-Gateway is only mentioned by Harstem, if it's the second building overall, which means the first 50 seconds of a Standard-Build.

[@CamaradaArdi]

Honestly if the Terran has a faster base than the protoss he is ahead in eco

[@3v1lp1ngv1n]

Terrans dont need a ct scan to determine brain damage they can scan anywhere on the map for a bit of energy.

[@tree_eats]

Oh god, lmao.

[@nick1752]

[IMBA]

[@ThunderChanter]

"The invincible Carrier-Collossus & Storm vaporized my army" well yeah dude when you put your only units that shoot air into a blender for your opponent, and most of your army cant shoot up, yout end to fall to air armies

[@PoEWhere]

12:30 i will never understand the logic behind „i killed eco lets push“

[@locmorningstar2740]

It pretty simple, you killed eco you push so even with equal trade you still be ahead because of economy advantage, but in this IODOS he trade extremely bad so it doesn't matter.

[@ulfi5223]

@@locmorningstar2740 on the other hand, an immediate push does not allow you to capitalize on the eco lead by getting a bigger army. You rely on an equal or not much worse trade, but you could prevent this scenario by getting more units instead.

[@locmorningstar2740]

@@ulfi5223 i agree with you but what you said is still the same as what i said, you still have to attack into the enemy anyway to capitalize on the eco lead, the timing mind be different but the idea is the same. If you dealt eco damage and just turtle up wait for them to attack then the eco damage is meanningless.

[@ClawDragoon]

This whole week was like a Harstem marathon and I loved it. No need to tune up Netflix after a good day, just watching the streams and videos! Great content as always Kevin

[@jacoballey21]

imma start a hospital where instead of asking for age or sex or underlying conditions it will just be one question on the form: terran, zerg, toss, or what is this? ppl that checkbox "terran" will immediately be put under the mri and recommended for psychiatric treatment edit: Harstem the imba report still says 2023. just a heads up

[@sharkehreal]

As a terran main I appreciate your good deeds.

[@mattanonysaurousrex]

I took a social studies class at University and I can confirm that 10 Social Scientists would definitely win a "fit as much jargon as you can in a sentence" competition.

[@janesk1]

well yeah any scientist would win such a competition lol

[@ltmaid]

IODIS is always great! I haven't played this game in years but I will watch this forever.

[@DistrictTerra]

My favourite video of the week.

[@f00dify]

Not sure if it made much of a difference, but during the fight final big fight at 16:17 in the game chilix used the feedback on the ghost although the ghost died before the feedback hit.

[@stanimir5F]

This replay damaged Harstem so hard that at some point I got the impression that he was confused who was who and who sent the imbalance complaint. At 15:13 for example mentioned Chilix instead of Amaris in a way like he sent the replay.

[@bakacs1n]

Dude, I'm watching IODIS while I eat, when you made the girlfriend joke I almost choke. Btw. he probably watched a lot of GSL and remembered Tasteless saying something about the concave.

[@K3rriganZerg]

All of you guys watching this, you better be clapping for those 9 seconds 😂

[@andrebrodbeck3883]

13:45 why he doesn't kill any probes, after destoing the pylon?

[@Amoeby]

Oh man, that last fight was so freaking funny. Amaris did a good job prioritising microing marauders out of the storms instead of vikings and not using ghosts whatsoever. Just terran things.

[@AntonRellik1123]

"If 9 seconds is a long time for, I pity your girlfriend" XD

[@sako2239]

Why I feel that if he just made a marine only army and Sim A move his opponent he would have a better chance. Especially the way he was microing Marauders against SkyToss.

[@KradDrows]

Against colossus storm?

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

"If 9 seconds is too much for you, then I pity your girlfriend" -Harshtem (maybe assuming too much)

[@messomix]

You should know better that it's over, if I have the high ground, Anakin ... :D

[@hamburgers7817]

Where are the EMP'S?! He had so many ghosts and never did it. And the vikings to the storm was brutal

[@KradDrows]

Protoss used feedback on some ghosts I think

[@yksnidog]

"He just shot you." ^^

[@GreenSeraphim]

Wanted to mention that you kept calling the Terran who filled out the form Chilix, which is the protoss player lol i think u mean Amaris, also u called the immortals a terran unit lol no big deal but funny to notice ;) great content Captain!

[@kma3647]

This guy's inability to micro is what got him killed. He couldn't micro his early game harass. He could micro his first push. He literally left 16 Vikings to stand still in 3 storms + carrier/phoenix fire and he didn't target his marauders on the archons and other ground assets that needed to get wiped out. A-move doesn't get the job done there. This is RTS 101. You have to learn and actually use the counter system.

[@hivetech4903]

RTS101 is build orders. A-move gets the job done up to Masters (NA), this guy (D-Korea) is about the same. You have a point that he's at a level where he has to start thinking about micro, but a-move still would've worked for him with the addition of firing a few EMP's and not going mental with a Maurauder army for some reason.

[@lelouchvibritannia7809]

Great minds think alike but fools rarely differ

[@ZerglingLover]

that’s a quote i’ve never heard of. where’d it come from?

[@MrHikagemono]

"Now i am not cursing..." Literally called Protoss players brainless by implication ...

[@tomarintomarin9520]

staying in storm gets me lol

[@arthasmenethil-ww6uu]

we still have not updated the complaint forms

[@zuruumi9849]

I even think that he could have won the main fight if he had just thrown a few EMPs in the beginning (denying the storm and halving the Protos' health points).

[@wherepoe2]

Will there be an Is it IMBA or do I suck for Stormgate?

[@PoEWhere]

Sure hope so. There would be more different cases for sure 😂

[@jpVari]

If protoss is op, it's people not playing protoss that are brain damaged But they aren't.

[@robertarzola]

10:32 that statement was IMBA

[@CamaradaArdi]

How can he trade out the marauders?

[@calmbeforethecorry]

why is the imbalance report form not updated to 2024? of course everything 2023 is going to be imba in 2024, that's why blizzard keeps nerfing everything!

[@siliablackfame5771]

What if the submission was made in 2023 and we are just clearing backlog 😂

[@rrr7939]

I wonder, if those ppl sending a replays here, are watching them before sending. Probably not, from what I have seen so far..

[@WeItenspinner]

Wait. Marauders arn't Terran's best anti air unit?

[@talictdf4757]

I'm no SC2 expert but I think when you fight a 90% air army and half of your units don't shoot up that's not a good thing.

[@simunator]

universally, zerg: hardest working, tactically inept toss: lethargic and spoiled with most tools terrans: most braindead with most life support

[@pablovirus]

Loved this episode

[@justinwill7420]

I guess that "Don't bring Marauders to an air battle" will now replace the saying "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"

[@ThunderChanter]

WOnder how much "I watch ed the replay" is gonna bite our Amaris in teh butt. "I watched it myself so I know Im right in everything I said" We'll see about that

[@Dexortes]

Ghost almost all the time with full energy

[@MatexSK]

9 seconds are my best record and Captian anhilated it...

[@-Kidzin]

Ah yes imba toss sure shows their power in any tournaments ;P

[@lelouchvibritannia7809]

Laddering on Korea is definitely a lot different than NA or EU

[@hivetech4903]

Its mostly just a skill difference though, higher up on NA or EU it looks very similar to this.

[@tambaz2276]

@@hivetech4903 Its an aggression difference also. Everyone knows, KR play aggressive and NA play safe

[@lelouchvibritannia7809]

@@tambaz2276 I thought EU plays Safe and NA plays the most random games ever

[@hivetech4903]

@@tambaz2276 Wasn't on display here. The Terran had early aggression that failed miserably - very common on GM or EU at this level. Outside of that it was a very passive game.

[@kostyantynhoncharov493]

Thnx for the game ^^ Is HAMSTER on vacation ?

[@whyarewestillhere7073]

hey at least the guy watched his replay before making up complaints

[@ledrash6079]

And yet, he was ignorant enough not to see all the errors he did. Still that point that is the factor of why i never sent in a replay. ME: "THAT %&#!! race is BROKEN!" (watches replay) "Okay, never mind"

[@vornamenachname594]

Harstem is always pissed when people claim Protoss is imba (which people often do (makes you think!))

[@mikeshivak]

"Please clap" 😂😂

[@firestarter000001]

Imho, to be fair (and i hate to be fair to terrans who as this one stereotypcly downplay Protoss, but still ) , when you judged his position around 10:55, his economy was better then Protoss. He had slightly higher worker count and lets say same timed third base. From what i know, this is not a good place to be as Protoss, I judge my eco position equal in PvT if im a bit ahead in base count, and at least 6-8 workers ahead. The rest of the points i tottaly agree, but I was missing this.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

Protoss is lava!

[@true_xander]

I'd say this guy belongs to Potato league

[@hivetech4903]

Metal leaguers can't determine league. From the builds D looked about right for Korea, this would be mid Masters NA.

[@syalin4433]

Lots of lies, half truths, and lies by omission in this complaint form lol

[@bxabi0]

It's differently correctly

[@allhailderpfestor4839]

My real question was why the fuck he was microing maradeurs against skytoss in final fight instead of viking or ghosts lmfao.

[@stevermartin12]

can you add imba reports for your opponent? haha love ragers

[@olegnovikov8822]

brainless logic for win that - if got maraders - i go 2 kill nexus by drops and steam move (toss have not ground army to block or stop that). Like zerg, who can beat sometimes by eatting all by lings. No dynamics = no win

[@arachnid4910]

Isn’t Chilix a pro player

[@CoL_Drake]

people like artosis and idra really did hurt sc2 in the longterm i feel. while protoss had only the nicest players on earth like white-ra, terrans had the most whiniest kids who would cry if they get a "i win" button that they have to push it manually ... i often felt patches were made because of outcry and in the end we ended in a game where protoss won BY FAR the least of any tournaments, literally zero foreign protosses can compete in the top (sry harstem) and the kids are STILL crying about protoss imba because people like artosis continue to this day to ride the "p is imba" train for their benefit of streaming and the people watching dont get that its not real ... i just wished white-ra would have been as bm as idra ... sc2 would be in a better place they cried so loud that the coolest unit ever to be designed in sc2 the replicator got scrapped because of all the whining ... imagine how much fun it would be to play with that unit edit: even worse when diamonds and lower ride that train ... dude ur diamon that means ur shit i not played sc2 for 10 years come back and get into master how fing bad are you stop complaining

[@wearedoomed9374]

PSA: you should actually WATCH your replay before sending it in to harstem lmao

[@DistrictTerra]

Why do terrans refuse to go ghost in these games? They're so fucking good in late game tvp and tvz

[@DistrictTerra]

Oh he had a ghost. Scanned and didn't use emp before he got feedbacked. Haha.

[@macmaac7148]

Boooooh

[@rapidwaterwolf1]

Terran balance complaints are are like whales losing at a P2W game complaining because they were so bad a F2P player beat them.

[@Phyress1337]

So a terran cant kill colossi and carrier? 😂 Yeah a shit ton of Vikings cant help there

[@danielhuang7310]

not to be curious or something. But I've never seen the answer as Imba. all of the answers are "suck". I do love your Imba videos, it's just I'm a little tired of seeing the same answer over and over.

[@hivetech4903]

Its not going to be IMBA because balance has no meaning below high GM which is kinda the point of the series. Even if the game did become IMBA, it takes months of pro player stats to determine that, so one replay is not going to be IMBA unless it was not serious / just for views.

[@chainsawfreak]

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[@danielhuang7310]

@@hivetech4903 Okay, I guess so

[@danielhuang7310]

@@chainsawfreak True but all of the rest says "suck" that 1 video is a bit different but It does count. that's like 1 out of 200 videos being the only imba(I could be wrong)

[@whyarewestillhere7073]

hey at least the guy watched his replay before making up complaints