Korean War 1950s Dogfights | Mig-15Bis Vs F-86 Sabre | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

[@thejokerguy244]

Older jet content! Great way to start my day, if you can do some 2v2 engagements in the mig vs the sabre with real people eventually that would be awesome. But do the content that makes you happy! Thanks for uploading.

[@tswims92]

This would be amazing!

[@tswims92]

This would be amazing!

[@nathangriffith7780]

This would be amazing!

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Even better, if GS can get 8 guys together they could do full flight vs full flight (4v4).

[@supermarinedragonace8648]

I would love to see this (Growling, please) (*This would be amazing!*)

[@zachboyd4749]

Sabre: “Ah, there you are old friend. I just had the strangest dream where I was in a 1v1 fight against a plane from the future…” MiG: “You too?”

[@buckwildlonghorn8843]

I would love to see some 2v2 or even 4v4. That would be alot fun to watch.

[@Darthybuddy]

some modern 2v2 ACM would be awesome to watch

[@p-40tiger38]

If you want to know more about the fight between these two jets I highly recommend the book "mig alley". It directly goes into allied soviet and Chinese recordes and it gives a great accounting from both perspective and incredible dog fight stories and a deep dive on each plane's development. Anyways love the content personally would like to see you in the Saber again in this fight but great content.

[@jiraph52]

Which author/year? There are a few books by that name.

[@p-40tiger38]

Thomas McKelvey Cleaver. 2019

[@chippyboi444]

69th like

[@VikingTeddy]

Reading MiG alley has been on my to do list for 6 years now. Thanks for the reminder, time to finally start. I always think of them as 50's jets. But it always surprises me that the MiG and Saber first flew in -47 and -49 respectively. They were pretty damn advanced for their time.

[@joshman35]

At the Sacramento capitol airshow they actually had a real dogfight like this between a restored f86 and mig 15. It was awesome watching them fly overhead

[@Deadvalley200]

Same at Wings Over Houston

[@Meteorslinger7.1]

Just started my GS membership! Thanks for everything you do GS! Just strengthens my love for military aviation.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you for supporting the channel goes a long way to keeping the content flowing around here, Much Love.

[@SL8408]

Hey GS, content idea for you. All these planes you fly and demo are super fun to watch, but I don’t understand how you know if a plane is a 2C vs 1C fighter. Like this video… I had no idea the mig was a better 2C fighter… how would I know that? 🤷‍♂️ My thinking is, make an “If than” diagram For all the modules. For example, you’re in the F15 and you come up against a 29. So in this case you do X… make a master class video about the f15 for each opponent and best way to fight BFM. Repeat for all the big modules. See what I’m saying? I’d be happy to do a collaboration with y’a to make it work. But I think it could give you a decent road map for a bunch of videos and keep all the great content coming 😊

[@clairecelestin8437]

You know you were at the limits of the flight envelope when your jet comes home with grass stains. Great video, great dogfight! Lots of skill on both sides, and these two jets are an iconic rivalry. More similar than Mario and Luigi.

[@dioad1739]

One of my favorite air battles my Dad was in a air force police during Korea he never flew but he guarded the pilots and aircraft I had all the model planes from that era when I was a kid that he bought for me and explained their abilities I’ve been into aircraft ever since and absolutely love your and longshot videos thanks.

[@SukhoyBoy4113]

The MiG-15 has an airbrake. It's very useful. I have used the airbrake multiple times during dogfights and my kill rate against a sabre is about 75%.

[@jordancourse5102]

in DCS or War Thunder ?

[@v0idwalker489]

@@jordancourse5102 Microsoft flight simulator

[@MulderJosh]

‘If you do find yourself in a scissor situation… In a MIG-15’ Thanks for clarifying, I was confused 😂

[@avramnovorra]

This was an awesome match-up, and perfect follow-up to the previous dogfight with the F-15 and J-11! Also, time to see the MiG-15 square up against the A-10, both got powerful cannons, different applications..

[@JWHmightylighthelper1777]

J 11 is a second generation fighter and F 15 is third generation fighter is a amazing but only in the dog fight F 15 VS J 11 is F 15 is most advantage to J 11

[@rodneypayne4827]

Yes Russia had 2( about 26 pilots in total that fluctuated due to rotation and losses) squadrons of pilots rotating through Korea to give them combat experience. It's confirmed that many Russian pilots were aces with WW2 experience fighting 262s in La 5/7 and Yaks. Quite a few Russian pilots have included there service in Korea in translated memoirs. source:Sergei Kramarenko's memoir of a fighter pilot in WW2 and Korea. 13 kills-Korea 7-WW2 4th highest scoring ace in Korea.

[@caleblarsen5490]

The reason for the MiG-15's lack of control at higher speed is because it didn't have hydraulically powered controls. The air gets thicker the faster you go, and there's a point that the human body just isn't strong enough to pull against it.

[@CastawayHikes]

I love these MiG15 videos, that 37mm killshot sooooo satisfying 😆

[@syper51]

I love your content man its always interesting and random and i like how you explain stuff that’s so complex and you make it simple, Keep making good content

[@mana_btw]

Exactly what I was thinking! 👍🏽

[@luccavanopdorp9755]

Totally agree!

[@dj_kaizen_games]

Great video once again, Thanks for giving me something to look forward to every day. I can't wait to build a flight sim setup of my own one day. This generation of airplane dogfighting is always so fun to watch.

[@garethfairclough8715]

I wonder....has anyone tried to land an I16 on the back of a Tomcat in flight?

[@happyhaunter_5546]

F-4 and Sabre pilots described the Mig-15's 27mm as "flaming golf balls" and 37mm as "flaming tennis balls to avoid at all costs"

[@duncanstevens2631]

it would be really cool to see a 2 v 2 korea era fight. The dynamics would be totally different than the other fights.

[@beverlychmelik5504]

Canadair Saber 6 and the CAC Sabre would be interesting additions. Both have another 1500 LBs of thrust.

[@gerretoutdoors3710]

"if you find yourself in a scissor situation..." i havent yet but im keeping my hopes up.

[@W1ckedRcL]

The F86 is such a good looking aircraft. Aesthetically one of my absolute favorites.

[@isaacrothman6522]

That first fight was one of my favourites in a while. Keep the Korean war dogfights coming!! Seeing a Tacview would also be cool

[@Flying-Pictures]

Nice seeing you doing some older jet merges. Good Job.

[@miletello1]

Damn that 37mm is brutal.

[@SPIN_89]

Couldn’t be more hooked. Keep up the great work!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

APEX PCs: apexpartner.app/redirect/Growling-Sidewinder Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ As always guys thanks for watching, and thank you all for your ongoing suggestions for future videos. If you have something you'd like to see on the channel please comment it below and maybe you will see it at some point once we get to it. Thank you again guys, Much Love.

[@Anarchy_420]

Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS F-15STOL/MTD AND SU-30MKI at same time guns only Dogfight

[@Anarchy_420]

Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K Mosquito VS Pucara F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider J-7 VS MIG-21 MIG-28 VS MIG-29 J-10 VS SU-27 F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight PLEASE fly Planes on the left!🙏

[@SliceofLife7777]

Rock on, you steely eyed jet pilot.

[@nigelsmith7366]

Gloster Meteor vs Me262

[@arisowski]

Mike is a jew

[@kennyj4366]

Very enjoyable, thank you for the great content.

[@loicalex]

I was looking for this just an hour ago lmao !!! Thanks

[@samuelanders7597]

Love it! Haven't heard or seen anything about the saber in years

[@andresarrizon3317]

Whoa what a coincidence. I got to see this dogfight at an airshow this past weekend!

[@raylake6611]

Always love these videos on the forgotten war!

[@markwheeler4417]

I do like a Korean era dogfight. Very refreshing.

[@flintlock6821]

The perfect match

[@sketchbook1]

37 mm is LITERALLY artillery-- it was also one of the first tank rounds.

[@braydenwarren3233]

Korean War Era dogfights are my favorite

[@birbeyboop]

lets gooooooo i miss these fights, they were some of the first things i saw of DCS back in the day

[@LondonWater]

Even though I’ve never played this… I def. Appreciate the arrows and explanations of what’s going on, on the control panel. Adds to the video for dummies such as myself, that just enjoy watching these scenarios play out, yet don’t know what the hell you’re talking about 75% of the time😂✌️

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

My favourite thing about '50s jets is that they're basically just a jet engine with guns and wings with a pilot strapped in like a bull rider lol

[@peterreily1490]

Hope you feel better @growlingsidewinder Love the content! You’re a trooper l, beast mode even under the weather 🙏.

[@rohangangan8327]

Love your Vids GS 😍 Please make a video on SU 30MKI with I Derby ER Fox 3 vs JF 17 / J 11

[@arthurdc]

I think it could be interesting if you swapped planes at some point, just to eliminate the "pilot skills" factor. nice video btw ;)

[@Tacticaviator7]

Wouldn't it eliminate the "better plane" factor instead ?

[@PhantomP63]

Exactly, I would like to see this fight with the aircraft swapped but appreciate seeing it as-is too

[@manders7868]

I love this early guns-only era of the jet age. Thanks!

[@robgraham5697]

37mm was standard tank armament a little over a decade before Korea. How technology flies.

[@cleverlaziness]

Sabre and mig 15 don’t get enough love, they are both really great aircraft and I wish they got more love

[@coffeewithbeans6209]

Day 11 of asking for Split throttle F-14b vs. VIFFing Harrier

[@tonyrun5802]

Now that is very interesting

[@juaniravaioli]

Magnificent beasts. Great video!

[@Nyxx2115]

I would love to see a fight between the A-4 and both of these aircrafts

[@nowayitsjj1592]

Day 8 of asking for the F9F panther vs Mig 15’s Based on the Lieutenant Royce Williams story where he fought 6 mig 15’s alone in his very inferior F9F

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

Your flying was very "Ice Man" esk GS. Patiently waiting, wearing them down and then striking.

[@danielhuman3518]

Day 2 : mig31 with r37m vsf22!

[@zildiun2327]

Do a Hawker Hunter vs MIG 17

[@robloxpepsimax]

I actually want to see that

[@worldtravel101]

@@robloxpepsimax same

[@Mike_Romeo]

There is no Hawker Hunter for DCS

[@zildiun2327]

@@Mike_Romeo Nooooooo

[@xraw110x]

Do you ever run into generic IFE's (in flight emergencies) in DCS? I'd like to see some of those!

[@vabch82]

In these aircraft, it all comes down to the pilot. Great fight

[@KZ-se4ik]

Good to see quality opponents like Shotgun on the channel again

[@mihaidobre428]

beautiful fight. loved it

[@gordonloughton9800]

How would a Hawker Hunter do against a Mig 15? I have heard a lot of good things about the hunter, cheers G.

[@macgyver186]

Please take an older jet with cannons up against a formation of bombers!

[@Anarchy_420]

Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS F-15STOL/MTD AND SU-30MKI at same time guns only Dogfight

[@PhantomP63]

Makes sense these jets look similar. They have a common ancestor in the Ta-183.

[@nomar5spaulding]

So I enjoy the MiG-15 vs F-86 Sabre videos quite a bit. One reason is because the F-86 is just so damned sexy to look at. I frankly cannot decide if the MiG-15 is beautiful or kind of ugly...

[@coreywiedenfeld3689]

Good stuff in these two recent Korean Jet videos. I was hoping this one would be an aircraft swap with you flying the F86. Got one of those in the queue?

[@lolzers7986]

Continuing with the theme of korean war era dogfights i'd love to see a video featuring the new F-100 Super Sabre mod

[@scottlynch1411]

Could we see you in the Sabre again? I just bought the module and am struggling.

[@yourfreindlyf16]

I've been looking thought all Ur vids and i haven't seen the spitfire vs a10 and ide like to see it.

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

I am visiting my father he is a aircraft mechanic. There is a mig 15 and mig 21 setting right next to his shop. There someones private aircraft. Been setting there for years. Its henderson AZ

[@kennydee8296]

When that Nudelman N37 hit home I felt the concussion from here 🌏 🇦🇺

[@Paul_Sergeyev]

Could you please show us ground strafes with different weapon setups from ground perspective? We all know how A10 Brrrt sounds and from the ground and looks on target, some even know that for Viper's 20mm, but I really wonder how a 37 mm and 6 x 50 cal. long strafes would look and sound on target!

[@vividthespis]

In the words of Kenan and Kel when I see a new GS upload.... Aww...aww...awww here it goes!

[@timsullivan4566]

When you said that 37mm was satisfying... ...you weren't kidding! LOL!

[@Krhys1]

If everyone was friends, we wouldn't have all these awesome jets to fight each other in DCS...

[@galgay1]

The explosion is so big it’s not even modeled very well. It just looks absurd and cartoonish which makes it all the more enjoyable.

[@gitfoad8032]

Analogue's so much more satisfying.

[@clementnoel6663]

13th attempt :> Dassault Rafale against F-14b Tomcat

[@50fatass]

"If you do find yourself in a scissor siuation..... in a MIG-15" hahaha

[@1KDave]

15 with the 37 vs some bombers or transports would be awesome.

[@lukealton59]

It would be cool to see the F-35 in some BVR engagements, against no aircraft in particular really

[@moistmike4150]

My neighbor was a Korean war F-86 pilot. He never got any kills, but he said it was a fantastic little fighter. Sadly, he passed away recently.

[@e-rider3955]

Im thinking about getting tackir! What one would u guys prefer?

[@levidotson6610]

I swear the muzzle blast could’ve knocked his wing off in that one pass

[@umair1443]

Love your content bro please do 1v1 dogfight between F-22 and Chengdu J-20

[@DrymouthCWW]

Love these old jet DF's

[@mahqueen253]

Holy 2 vids within 24 hours? Now we're talkingg, sheessshhh

[@D_Flame16]

Hey GS!! You know, I've always wondered what all of those names you say of the combat tactics really mean, like the "one circle" "flat scissors", etc. Do you have a vid where you talk about and describe those techniques? If don't... Could you make a video explaining all of those combat tactics/manuvers?

[@D_Flame16]

@@revejmal Thx a lot 🙏🏻

[@jordancourse5102]

I'm a War Thunder main player and I love my MiG 15bis and MiG 17. I love MiGs in general because they're truly challenging. Great fight. Even in War Thunder, I fly the Bis and 17 mostly in the vertical or rate if I'm facing a F86F Sabre. If it's the A-5, F-40, CL13B I have to be cautious because of the slightly larger wings with the leading edge slats. I believe the Sabre variant in DCS is the F86F-25 but correct me if I'm wrong. You never wanna be forced into a 1 cirlce in the 15 Bis especially at high speeds due to the compression / control surface lock up. The F Sabre's have a pretty strong engine so the thrust to weight is somewhat more comparable to the 15Bis but you never know if the pilots are skilled. Whenever I get into DCS, I'll probably get the MiG 15 first or at least that'll be my first cold war era module.

[@ChokeOnGfuel]

I literally just saw these two jets in an airshow in Sacramento. Does this have any sort of connection with the airshow?

[@jumpvelocity3953]

I love this matchup.

[@thekalamazookid4481]

"If you do find yourself in a scissor situation ..........in a mig 15" 🤣

[@BroBytesBhai]

9:26 Nice sentiment there

[@davejob630]

I once took flying lessons from an Aussie pilot who was shot down and had to eject from his meteor over korea.... Id like to see that fight!

[@realitysux_0128]

Not on DCS but I do find your videos entertaining. Any way you can do a F-4 Phantom II vid? I know they didn’t come equipped with guns until later in Vietnam. An F4 v MiG 21 battle would be cool to watch

[@dilet1114]

Heatblur’s currently making the playable Phantom, there are videos where he fights the F-4 in a Fishbed.

[@magazinuldeinvitatiisimart4731]

Nice fight!

[@Bradly197]

GS, I have a request I have yet to find. I use your setup, pretty much verbatim. This, however is without your mappings and TrackIR setting. Any direction there would be apricated.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hello my trackir profile can be downloaded from the community page of the channel, you have to scroll a while down to find it. As for HOTAS bindings I recommend you just bind what you like to whatever buttons. It’s one of those things you just have to do and see how you like it.

[@waaghals]

I am sort of wondering what that "blinking eye" to the left in the Mig cockpit is.

[@PhantomP63]

Reminds me of an oxygen flow indicator but it’s huge

[@johnminisi8470]

Love the F-86 showing up in videos

[@philgonzalez5953]

Sadly I watched a pilot crashing a mig crash at el toro marine base. He couldn't complete a loop and scraped the runway . 😢

[@oscarzheng9902]

korean era dogfights are cool and all but we need vietnam era dogfights!

[@markstott6689]

37mm is awesome, scary and hilarious all in one package. I wonder how many hits a B-29 could take before falling out of the sky.?

[@SymbolicLogic24]

If you had missed him in the second round I don't think he would have been able to pull out of that rate of descent.

[@AMemeFrom06]

I’ve been watching your videos religiously, they’re a really fun mix of entertainment and information. I know very little about DCS, but is there an F4 Phantom module/mod? I grew up watching that tacky History Channel show “Dogfights”, and the episode on Operation Bolo was my favorite. I’d love to see some F4-Mig21 scenarios (and bonus points for differential thrust in the phantom lol)

[@AMemeFrom06]

I now see there’s a video I missed from like a month ago, but I stand by my point that differential thrust in the F4 would be cool lol