KORG KRONOS + KURZWEIL PC3 | PIANO COMPARISON

[@TZKeyz]

I played the Kronos, it has the best piano I ever heard out of a Korg. It has that Korg sound. Having said that, I bought a PC3K8. This is my 3rd Kurzweil weighted action instrument. I had a PC88MX, a fully expanded PC2x, now the PC3K8. That should tell you something. Just my opinion.

[@jadigistudios]

So glad you did this... kurzweil build their own components and they have the most powerful sound engine in the market... Korg finally got it right with Kronos but they got help from INTEL there is a 2008 intel motherboard with a Atom chip and 4gb of ddr2 ram in the box... And they still can't match the power of the kurzweil.

[@miguelrejas5034]

Indeed. ;)

[@alissonbringmann7608]

Os dois timbres são excelentes, devido o tamanho de amostras que são gigas no kronos faz ele ter um timbre com mais detalhes. Porém o kurzweil pc3 com seus 64 mb de memória total consegue emitir um piano muito bonito e até acho bem realista, sendo um diferencial no meio da banda sempre aparecendo com presença.. temos muitos vstis hoje em dia extremamente detalhados mas quando vai juntar em uma mix com a banda some. Sou um feliz proprietário de um Kurzweil pc361!

[@autotest8193]

e eu de um k2600...20 anos e o bixinho ainda dá pau em muito teclado por ai..toco em vários casamentos, usando até 8 timbres simultaneamente com controle de volume independente e ele não abre o bico! imagina o pc3....

[@autotest8193]

cara..os 2 são muito bons...mas um monte de gente fala que os melhores synths sempre foram da korg....naum sei, tem que experimentar pra saber...

[@webstermartins2749]

Acabei de comprar um tambem

[@cicerocassiano6408]

Comprei um pc3 tô nas nuvens kkkk

[@MotneNielsen]

PC3 sounds better in my opinion.. its more mellow and sounds more real to me. 8-)

[@PGComet]

I think the kurzwiel sounds better. The korg sounded a bit more like it was in a box. The kurzweil sounded more dynamic.

[@soureel]

Both sound good to me. No mention of which PC3 program was used- which can have a huge impact on the resulting sound.

[@pneptun]

i read the comments first and they seem to be praising kurzweil, so i went in with massive expectations and ... guys, are you listening to the same thing?! :-D the kurzweil sounds ok i give you that but the kronos sounds just way more polished. probably thanks to having more stereo width, the reverb on it sounds fuller, the eq makes it sound like from a mastered pop CD - and i mean that as a compliment. the kurzweil sounds just ... normal, nothing special. Also now - almost 8yrs later, i think actually the new roland fantom has the best pianos with the v-piano physical modeling based stuff ... sounds amazing, with nord white grand close second. just my opinion :)

[@analogaddict]

I have both, enjoy both. The Kurz sits better in a mix, but the Kronos is a delight when played on its own or in a more quiet context. It's interesting that they are comparable considering the difference in size; I wonder what the Kurz magicians could do with 4gb sample memory.

[@anonymus7601]

Default eEQ settings, headphones, or a Mackie proFX12 mixer. As I wrote below I took to a dealer and compared with others.. No difference. You say, that piano is not a primary focus in a synthesizer. You might be right, but what do you think the hammer action was built in for? PC3X, K8... Hammer action is only for piano. As benefit for the piano - handicap for other sounds, for Hammond for example.. I always use it in stereo.

[@dynamitekid8967]

Can you guys please update this video with a Korg Kronos 2 vs Kurzweil PC3K8? Thanks and God bless everyone! Peace!

[@Will-ek6mk]

Dynamite Kid the Kronos 2 sounds identical to the Kronos. The sounds aren’t different at all

[@EzraBufford]

Sounds like they are some what identical. The Kurzweil sounds a hair better as a piano sound. I tried the new Roland RD and that piano sound was awesome! With this new technology music age they all sound great by themselves. Korg has come a long way since that old school tangy piano sound of the M1. lol

[@TheTruckslover]

Guys need help here, and guess it is the right place to go, I have some very limited experience with pianos in general (there was a grand piano at my grand parents home, i used to play some songs as a child) want to retake piano, with online piano lessons, ipad connectivity or pc connectivity lesson apps required for the piano/keyboard, I am planning on getting a used keyboard for this, I have been looking at prices on guitarcenter, and found that for my range of investment (i dont want to buy a bad quality musical instrument as i consider this an investment in myself) so i would like to choose between nice brands and a good sound quality, I found this used kurzweil pc3 le 88, korg krome 88, roland fa8 or yamaha motifx8 (all similarly priced and inside my budget), which one would you recommend? I need good sound quality and USB connectivity for ipad or PC windows 10. Please let me know, and thank you for your advise.

[@ayanaabella]

That's right! I'm a kurzweil owner too.. It's just awesome!!!

[@ViktorKralovic]

Kurzweil does it for me. Nice video.

[@009Bewildered]

My Kurzweil PC3X sounds great, but the weighted action leaves a lot to be desired. Okay for E.P.s and such. If the keybed were detachable (like the Korg M50) it would rarely get used. Ezra is right, the Roland is fantastic! Picked up a crazy deal on a NOS RD700GXF with the SuperNatural expansion. Sounds great and the action is the best since the old Yamaha KX-88.

[@தேவகிருபை-வ1ச]

Korg is always my opinion 🏭🏭🏭🏭🏭

[@bobolulu7615]

I use both these keyboards when playing in my band, Kronos 88 and Kurzweil PC3-61. No one cares what the piano sounds like in a crowded pub as long as it 'sounds' like one.

[@purrplemane5954]

I am definitely with you on that. The never ending argument about which board sounds better is akin to who is better Messi or Ronaldo. All I can say is that they both have taken football to a level we have not seen in many decades. They are both excellent players at the top of the pile and imho the PC3 and the Kronos are excellent synths at the top of the pile. The listening audience couldn't care less which synth you playing as long as the music sounds good. One more point I would like to make its naive to think two synths from two completely different manufacturers are going to sound the same out of the box. Synth are programmeable and if you know what you are doing with these powerful beasts you can bring their sounds to sound close enough to each other that the difference is negligible.

[@MaryAnnpianoplayer]

What a left hand, and your music! Really technical and lyrical ，I envy you!!!

[@germanshepherdlover2613]

The Kurzweil triple strike piano is very old compared to the Kronos, but still sounds pretty good

[@stromzaehler]

At the current prices of the PC361 it would be more realistic to compare the "KROME 88" vs. "PC3X" or "PC3LE8". Then, the 61 key version of PC3 series has leight weighted synthesizer keys instead of weighted hammer action keys of the Kronos/PC3X. So it's very different to play and there's no chance to compare the keybeds.

[@instrumentalistjade8367]

kurzweil has better keybed action. but kronos has warmer piano. but i bought a px5s to save money and i have a great piano. and synth capabilities. they cant beat the price.

[@WeAskThePeople]

thanks a lot for this,,, I was wanting to know just how they do compare.. the KORG kronos sounds deeper ... more natural .. the PC3 also has a lovely presence,, perhaps a little more reverb would have made the VS test a little better, great music by the way .. thanks ,,, I have a Kronos,, but am getting PC3 too

[@anonymus7601]

I had a Roland RD100 many years before, and I used its big brother, the RD600 for several years. Both had a realistic, bright and inspiring piano. That's why I thought that every instruments can tbring this level at least. Even for fourfold price. I made a mistake. (sorry for grammar mistakes, I'm hungarian :-) )

[@gjc82071]

Yes they have. I never really liked the piano sounds on my M1, O1W or even my Triton Pro X & I HATED their guitar sounds. To be honest, I was never crazy about Korg's drum samples either. They always sounded a bit thin/small IMO & I preferred Roland. My Roland XV5080 has great drums & excellent pianos (w/expansion boards) But the piano on my Korg Kronos X 88 is practically from another dimension, as are the drums & most of the other sounds. Korg finally got EVERYTHING right with the Kronos

[@gjc82071]

I'm feeling the same way about the action on my Korg Kronos X 88. Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing sound keyboard. But the keys are a little stiff for me. I've been using my Triton Pro X as a controller (for the Kronos), which also has weighted keys, but they're a bit easier to play compared to the Kronos. How much of that is attributed to 12 years of steady use is debatable, but I find the Kornos stiffer even then the action on my REAL, Yamaha C-6 Conservatory Grand piano.

[@ferryjoshua]

Which patch sound number for Kurzweil?

[@steveaverion6209]

you are the best performer that ive seen ever... very very very good performer :)

[@eliasafediasdesouza]

Kurzweil wins

[@Rafal18021979]

Kronos - 3999 Eur, Kurzweil PC3K8 - 2333 Eur, PC3LE8 - 1099Eur. In this comparison, I see no sens to even consider Kronos it for this price. I can have good enough instrument + DAW + soft sampler + some many in my pocket.

[@gjc82071]

Kronos X 88 = $3,999 & PC3K8 = $3,699. Not much difference. This video doesn't do justic to either keyboard, but as far as sounds go, there is simply no comparison. A piano patch with 16mb or 32mb simply can't compete with gigabytes pianos streamed off the Kronos' solid state drive. I own both & both sound excellent. Kurzweil's VAST is amazing. But the Kronos is an all around, better workstation.

[@Rafal18021979]

www.thomann.de/pl/kurzweil_pc3_k.htm www.thomann.de/pl/korg_pro_kronos_x_73.htm And Kronos is 73 keys. For me, hudge difference.

[@mikasappi2152]

Rafal18021979 Please note that there is different costs of each instrument in different countries.

[@lucasmsd1985]

I bought it and its really awesome!! cant even get out of the chair, I have my korg kronos at left and my computer at front haha!

[@alphasxsignal]

Wonder how the new KORE 64 is going to make the Kurzweil sound maybe even better.

[@marcdeschryver7687]

I've always been a fan of Kurzweil, ever since the K250 in the (good) old days.... Kurzweil make great instruments but so does Korg and many other synth manufacturers. In the old days a synth manufacturer would stand out in a certain area: keyboard quality, display, programming interface, sample quality .... Today it's more about the first impression. One thing the Japanese have always been great at, is putting together a great set of factory presets in their synths, something American companies, for ome reason, seem to fail at dramatically. Take the Alesis Fusion... A fantastic synth that the came out more or less at the same to as the Korg Oasys and in many aspects could be seen as the poor man's alternative to that incredible instrument. But the factory sounds were, to be gentle, round out pathetic. This doesn't mean that the instrumenty was crap... far from it. The Fusion was and, still is a fantastic instrument, but I think that having GREAT, EPIC , rather than OK or So So, factory sounds makes or breraks a synth when you are out hunting for an instrument. I'm currently looking for a new Midi controller to use next to my Korg Kronos X 88 and have been looking at either a Midi Only controller (e.g. Novation Remote SL or Nektar Panorama P6) or a workstation/controller like the Kurzweil PC3K series that could be used as a sound source as well. I'm certain the Kurzweil is capable of producing great sounds but haven't seen/heard a single demo/review that can convince me a Kurzweil would be the right choice, soundwise. The Korg Kronos X is in my mind one of the best or even the best sounding synth workstation out there today... 9 sound engines with infinate power and possibilities... However... Todays VST instruments like Modartt's Pianotec make minced meat out of physical synths without breaking out in a sweat. I tend to use that instrument for piano's nowadys..... But to finish up fairly, in the end it's really a question of personal preference... what sounds best in YOUR ear. Comaring the Korg Kronos with what I've heard from the Kurzweil, the Korg wins easily... but again ... that's only my personal view.

[@Armz316]

Marc De Schryver well said & spot on!

[@bigcdub]

I also have the Kronos2, Montage, and Kurzweil PC3K88, and it's definitely the reverse... I love all these boards, but this demo does Kurzweil absolutely no justice. The PC3K88 has the best sounding patches for most of the represented sounds, and the 9 engines in my Kronos2 are no match compared to V.A.S.T., additionally, the quality of the effects in the Kurzweil are far superior, and way more abundant. There is definitely a learning curve due to the smaller display on the Kurzweil, but you would have to own all three Workstations to know the true power and awesome dynamic range of V.A.S.T.

[@alpakaalpaka3983]

wow, awesome skill ...

[@petrusmalk]

The Kurzweil PC3 sounds better.

[@philperry6564]

gjc82071 The sample size isn't a factor for something to sound good.The best piano vst, Pianoteq, has about 40 Mb!!! and sounds better than all of the 100 GB sample libraries.The Kurzweil sits in the mix better than any other workstation, that's why it's been around for so long.If you want a solo instrument to sound good, you'll have to get that instrument and not a workstation. Last but not least, it's obvious that you have no clue in what to look for in a workstation that is being used in a professional enviroment.

[@BRbassedu]

gjc82071 It's because of how VAST works to link the samples, Kurz did a very realistic job there. That said, and as much as I may unconditionally love my PC3X, although its piano is considerably realistic and beautiful, most instruments are better represented on Kronos. Korg seems to have gone all out to push the competition out of the scene on it. Even as a synthesis instrument, while VAST may be unbeatable, it's also unpractical. Yet, as a MIDI device (both to send and receive signals), no brand stand a chance against Kurz's outstanding flexibility. It's simply monstrous what you can do with it.

[@purrplemane5954]

@@gjc82071 To say that the PC3 is not even close based on this demo and this demo only really sounds like being biased towards the Kronos. If you said you like the Kronos over the PC3 I can give you that. Remember a lot of things are viewed subjectively. You having a preferences for something doesn't make it better than the other. What it does is make you feel better about having it. I have listened to the debate over the years about which piano sounds better or which keyboard feels better and there will never be consensus because people's taste are different. Frankly speaking I think the piano on both board are wonderful and in the hands of an excellent player it wont matter much. What's my preference I'd go with the Kurzweil but if I had the Kronos I'd be just as happy because both of them are great. We would not be having this discussion if it were otherwise. Nobody compares a Porsche with a Toyota Corolla. They are just leagues apart. The same cannot be said of the Kurz and the Kronos and don't forget that the Kronos debut in 2011 where as the Kurz PC3 was back in 2008

[@csreichard]

So very yes.

[@spada60]

Kronos is in a class by its own. The kurzweil doesn't even compare to it. However, the best digital piano sample ever produced is on the Yamaha S90es. They got it right on that one. The Kronos does not even come close to the S700 sample. Believe me I own both.

[@paulrahme]

Kronos = much more spatially separated sound... it's like somebody turned the sound over from mono to surround :)

[@ayanaabella]

Hahaha! very clever! It's real... how come Kurz R&D come up with such small capacity with super rich sound samples!! they really do magic I guess :) what more if it's 4gb?? Hahaha

[@gjc82071]

This video really doesn't do justice to either keyboard. As an owner of both the Kronos & PC3K, (love'em both) I can tell you there where the pianos are concerned, there is really no comparison. The Kronos is far superior. Piano patches comprised of a few megabytes of piano samples, just aren't going to sound as good/real as a piano patch comprised of gigabytes of piano samples. But w/that being said, the PC3K is an awesome synth. I absolutely LOVE it. IMO, it is a more "interesting" sounding synth, (V.A.S.T. is amazing!) but the Kronos is by far a better, all around, "workstation".

[@eugenebrown3281]

Please share how you use both instruments. Are they connected via midi? Do you record with one and gig with the other? Do you use a DAW? I've been trying to decide between these two since the Kronos was introduced and recently concluded that I need both. Thanks,

[@chicoandtheman7599]

Eugene Brown Hi. This is my Google+ account name but this is still gjc082071. Sorry man, I did not see your comment until just now. I will give you my opinion, as an owner of both a Kronos X & a PC3K. As a "workstation", DAW, Sampler (PC3K can NOT sample, but can import & play samples) & ROMpler, the PC3K can not compare to the Kronos. That's not an opinion, it's plain & simple fact. Anyone who tells you otherwise, is either lying, or incapable of giving an unbiased opinion. (or both) I no longer gig. I record with both, & use both with &/or without MIDI. I don't yet use a DAW. (but hope to start using Presonus "Studio One Artist") For recording, I just use Audacity & a Presonus 44VSL (audio interface). All my sequencing is done on hardware. (either the Kronos X, or Triton Pro X) Choosing between the Kronos & PC3K really all depends on what you personally WANT & need in a synth/keyboard, and possibly also, which keyboards you already own. The pianos, acoustic sounds, & basic "bread & butter" sounds on the Kronos are generally more realistic than the PC3K. (due to the vastly larger RAM & ROM on the Kronos) The Kronos also has 4, exceptionally great, analog modeling engines. Let me tell you where the PC3K excels; It is noted for the overall quality of it's "KDFX" Effect Processors (simply the best IMO, but Korg's are great too) and as a Virtual Analog synth. The PC3K has an awesome sound all it's own. It's awesome for making "synth" type sounds, but it can also do a lot of acoustic sounds fairly well, & even great. (PC3K organ sounds are excellent, & as good or maybe even BETTER than the Kronos) PC3K & Kurzweil's "V.A.S.T." engine gives you a lot of control of your sounds. Patches can be made of up to 32 "layers" (layers are like "samples") & you can even assign effect processors to individual layers that make up a sound. (ONLY Kurzweil does that) KDFX + V.A.S.T. allows the PC3K to produce many sounds that are very "exciting" & "inspirational". The PC3K User Interface is difficult/bad, but not terrible. (The Kronos UI is extremely simple, easy & straightforward, & it's sequencer & FX routing are nearly identical to the Trinity, Triton & M3) I love analog modeling synths. That is my preference. Since I already own some of the best ROMplers (Kronos, Motif, EX5, Alesis Fusion, Triton, Trinity, Roland XV5080, etc) I don't need or want more. I wanted another, great, Analog Modeling synth, which is why I got the PC3K, & as such, it is awesome in that regard. (I really do LOVE it!) The Kronos & PC3K are both capable of doing things the other can't, & have distinctively different sounds. You should also know that the PC3K has probably the slowest RAM loading time of any synth or sampler in existence. It takes nearly a full 2 HOURS to install 128 megabytes of samples. It's literally slower than vintage 1980's floppy drives. So it's pretty much impossible to add or change a lot of samples during a live gig. (unless you get really long breaks between sets, hahaha) You should also know that the Kronos has about a 2 minute boot up time. Build quality on the PC3K feel a bit more rugged & sturdy than the Kronos, but the Kronos is not some fragile piece of crap. In conclusion, if I was forced to choose between a Kronos & a PC3K, I would choose the Kronos. You can simply do "more" with than Kronos, & it's a far better workstation. But let me tell you, I would not be happy or content with that choice, because the PC3K IS an amazing musical instrument. I am just grateful & fortunate to be in a position where I lucky enough to own both. Ultimately the choice between Kornos or PC3K is yours, & it's a hard choice. I hope my insight & opinions offer you some help. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. ;-)

[@paddlehard5722]

Gerry No Excellent truthful comment on both machines. I still stick to Kronos solo. I still can’t afford pc3k as additional option that would give me that edge in midi programming. Or maybe I don’t even need it.

[@alphasxsignal]

The keys are not that great on the Kronos but you are doing a pretty good job with them.

[@Will-ek6mk]

Lol a lot of Kurzweil owners In these comments congratulating themselves pretty much. There are I think 5 completely different piano samples on the Kronos. Anyone saying those don’t sound good is pretty much lying to themselves so I don’t trust anything said after that.

[@anonymus7601]

I took it to the dealer and compared with brand new ones. Same thing...

[@MrIncred1ble92]

I'm willing to bet anyone that says the Kurzweil sounds better owns a Kurz. No there isnt a comparison Kronos hands down. Maybe 10 years ago Kurzweil had the best piano sound but not anymore. It's time Kurzweil updated their stuff!!

[@IcarusTuga7]

you have more pianos in rom like korg and others workstations... depend your choice and equalizer settings..fx .etc..

[@chicoandtheman7599]

IcarusTuga7 Nope. It depends on the size/amount of the samples that make up the sampled piano sound/patch. That is how it works. The larger the samples size & the more of them there are, the more realistic the piano will sound. It's a technological fact. It's impossible for a piano sound comprised of 32MB of samples, to sound as realistic as one comprised of 9GB of samples. The pianos along on the Kornos have like 50 times the ENTIRE sample ROM/RAM (pianos included) of the PC3K. The PC3K doesn't have enough ROM/RAM to sample every note of a piano, & the sustain is looped. On the Kronos, EVERY note is sample, at 8-12 separate velocity lawyers, & there is no sustain looping. Each sampled note is recorded from start to end. (w/some being over 30 seconds long, each) The mechanical effect sounds (sustain pedal, piano bridge, etc) samples alone on the Kornos, are larger then then entire library of PC3K piano samples. The PC3K still sounds good, (good at lower octaves, very, very weak in the upper octaves) but nowhere near as realistic as the Kronos. That is my opinion, as an owner of both the PC3K & Kronos X.

[@chicoandtheman7599]

You are absolutely & w/o question, 100% correct. No doubt. As an owner of both the Kronos X & the PC3K, I can tell you for certain that there is no comparison between the 2, as far as their acoustic pianos are concerned. Kronos wins, hands down. The PC3K sounds "good" (though fairly weak in the upper octaves) but not even close to sounding as realistic as the Kronos. The very nature of sampled pianos dictate that it's a physical & technological impossibility for the PC3K's pianos to sounds as realistic as the Kronos. The PC3K simply doesn't have enough ROM/RAM to sample EVERY note, (at 8-12 velocity levels) like the Kornos can. The pianos samples on the PC3K are also NOT record from start to finish. (the sustain is "looped") Pianos samples on the Kronos are up 20 30 seconds long, each. (NO looping!) There are also no mechanical effect sounds on the PC3K pianos. Also, the free Kronos OS 3.02 update added a "string modeling" effect the the Kronos pianos. (& an extra 4 velocity layers) I am not biased against Kurzweil. I freakin' LOVE my PC3K!!! It is an AMAZING Virtual Analog synth, (& good ROMpler) & a beautiful sounding music instrument, & I would HATE to have to give up 1 for the other. But it's piano's just aren't in the same class (or even the same school) as the Kronos. I am just happy, grateful, & thankful, to be blessed & lucky enough to own BOTH. :-)

[@the80386]

+Gerry No - throwing gigabytes won't necessarily make a better sound. after a point the returns will diminish. compared to kronos for example, nord sample size is tiny but they hold up very well. I love Kronos, Stage 2 and PC3LE but gotta admit the quality of sound kurzweils produce for the sample size is incredible - pure efficiency. it may not beat kronos side by side on quality speakers but it's close enough to the point where inside of a full mix with layers of effects, the listeners will never complain. I've never heard anyone say the piano didn't sounds good. we don't make music to do polarity reverse null tests, but for listeners to enjoy. when they listen, they pay attention to melody, emotion of lyric etc and definitely don't focus on sample quality or whether the compressor is clamping too hard or not or any other technical jargon that engineers love to debate for hours.

[@chicoandtheman7599]

zeebazu I disagree that sample size doesn't matter. The more notes that are sampled & the more samples per velocity layer, the more realistic the piano will sound. That being said, I like the piano sound on my PC3K. The lower octaves sound very nice, but from around middle C up to C8, they sound pretty week. The Kronos/2, having all 88 notes sampled from start to finish & at 8-12 velocity levels, (+ mechanical sounds, sustain pedal sounds, etc) sounds MUCH more realistic. No amount of emotion or enjoyment of music can change that. It sounds like you're basically saying that if you have enough instruments/sounds in a mix & you can drown out a piano's deficiencies, everything is OK. What if you're making a sparser & more piano heavy piece of music? Those deficiencies will be more noticeable. I know why people make music, but I just want & like having a great piano sound. The Kronos gives me that. But I do think the PC3K sounds amazing for VA (Virtual Analog) stuff, (1 of the best, even as good as Access Virus TI) & some of the acoustic sounds, though tiny or even miniscule in size, sound incredible. Also, Kurzweil's KDFX (effects processors) are simply the BEST effects processors on ANY synthesizer or workstation. (which is why I badly want to KSP8 stand alone processor) I've heard many demos of the Nord & Motif XF, & have tested them briefly at Guitar Center. Their pianos sound very good, but not in the Kronos' league. But yes, it's all about making music, so it really doesn't matter what instrument you use. If you prefer 1 keyboard over another, use it. If you don't, use something else. It's personal choice. I've heard people create interesting music using nothing but Casio Casiontones, so, whatever. It's all good. ;-)

[@kerzwhile]

Excellent video!! I listened with my eyes closed to foolishly try and Not tell the diff. Look at my stupid screen name... Us obsessed Kurzweil anoraks can discern a Kurzweil in a Mix let alone solo! But Korg FINALY has a Bad ass Piano! But this is just like comparing Real Pianos! That Steinway is Not gonna sound like a Yamaha etc.. The big 4, now 5 with Clavia the heavy hitter ALL sound Great! :).

[@ayokay123]

Kronos sounds brighter, which some prefer and others don't.

[@mysterio77690]

totally agree with you...strange!

[@saucey99]

kurz hands down if u include variety

[@MrFILMPJE]

think your PC3 is faulthy because it has one of the best piano sounds on the market.

[@Vangelismusic1]

The KRONOS sounds fuller hands down.

[@DerikPiano]

The pc3 piano still sounds just as good as anything else out there. You don't like it? Go ahead and get on the motif bandwagon. My pc3le is the best sounding keyboard I have ever played. No doubt.

[@dynamitekid8967]

The Motif is the most played instrument worldwide, I only saw Bee gees and Heart band that only use Kurzweil. From the movie to present Yamaha had a huge impact, but late 80's onwards the Kurzweil ruled. But it's just so hard to program that keeps other musicians from buying this board. now a few minor flaws. everything now is touch screen, and the sounds maybe outdated but still Kurzweil is always being used at stage plays kinda stuff. I meant Broadway that is.... Peace everyone.

[@gjc82071]

There's really no comparison here. The Kronos sounds much more real/natural IMO.

[@flotopo]

Something's not right about the way the kurzweil was recorded and/or mixed. It is panned almost hard left, so much so, that even when he plays the higher notes you still only hear it more on the left side and almost not at all on the right side. This is surely not the way kurzweil pans pianos, so in my opinion at least as far as the real stereo image comparison is concerned, things are wrong and this is not an objective comparison.

[@yujgkjhjk]

Only one thing I disagree with you from what you said and that is your assesment of the organ sounds. I have the PC3LE6 and compared to my Nord Electro 3, the organ sounds are pretty poor and the Leslie leaves a lot be desired also, for organ playing the keybed is a little too stiff. Overall however the PC3 has the most amazing orchestral sounds I've ever heard :)

[@danaowens30]

Bro you have the PC3LE no drawbars no comparison. And yes the Orchastal sounds are amazing. You have the low level Kurzweil PUMP YOUR BRAKES DUDE. I OWN the Original PC3 with That Expansion Pack buddy and i will blow your mind with my sounds. Its even better than that Motif XF and XS. Plus that sobby Fantom which i own all these boards and my Kurzweil PC3 with 64 VAST expansion pack is it my boi

[@thiagocanario740]

o melhor é o pc3

[@alphasxsignal]

Sounds like reverb on the Kronos. The Kurz sounds more real.

[@anonymus7601]

Kurzweil itself has proven it with the new Artis... Why was a new sample (german grand) necessary if the almighty triple strike is so impaired? The "world champion" triple strike is the biggest mistake of Kurzweil, but they would never admit it..

[@garybower8456]

To me the Korg sounds like a clavi not a piano...

Korg Kronos

[@robyartic]

Korg has never made good piano sounds as well as orchestra and strings that sounded fake.......as far as i’m concerned Kurzweil is still a professional trademark

[@anonymus7601]

I have a PC3X. It has the worst piano sound I have ever heard. Not "realistic" as so many stake but awful. Noisy, chirpy, doesn't even reminds of a real piano. Simply a crap. My biggest mistake ever. But...it has really great Hammond section. This is awesome. Just like a real KB3 with drawbars. Nevertheless if you want to play good piano, or off you are a pianist, buy ANY other digital instrument! I regretted this buy.

[@SharmankaMusic]

Гамно...

[@anonymus7601]

I still hate my PC3X piano sound. It is not a piano. It is a noise.

[@anonymus7601]

Yes, pc3 it really is..a semi-weighted. My pc3X.. it's a88 note full weighted hammer action board. With the worst piano sample ever. It has great strings, impaired hammond and rhodes. But that triple strike is a disaster. As well as its menu structure. That's why I will never buy Kurzweil again. This sound can make me angry anytime. I will change it to a Kronos X88 as soon as possible.

[@anonymus7601]

I'd better say: I bought a Bentley then I faced the fact, it has no steering wheel at all... The primary goal was not the piano sound, this would be a basic requirement where PC3 fails...This thin and noisy piano sound is simply a scandal... Like a 25$ chinese instrument.

[@anonymus7601]

Minus off :-)