Kosem Threatens Farya | Magnificent Century: Kosem

[@Redluna32]

The irony of Farya asking Kosem how anyone could imagine that a mother would take the life of their own child. Kosem might as well have just snorted and read the history of the harem and sultanate to her.

[@itsyagirl6549]

Farya keeps saying "How was I suppose to know she would do that?" when that's the whole point! You didn't know what she would do in response to finding out she was going to be executed in secret. When you have a plan of attack you don't tell your enemies what your plan of attack is. Especially if you're not going to act on it immediately because then you're giving your enemies time to beat you. Which is exactly what Ayse did all because Farya couldn't keep her mouth shut

[@madnessia2444]

Lol ppl here trying to defend ayse when she was the one who killed faryas unborn child. Sick

[@merykhan97]

​@@madnessia2444 no one is saying Ayşe doesn't deserve to be excuted. That doesn't change the fact that Farya is a piece of $hit and deserves what Kusem does to her later. Perfect revenge for her grandchildren.

[@emelbsh6573]

@@madnessia2444 but put your self in ayşe's place , you really love someone and you have children with him , then another woman comes and take your love easily , how will be your reaction , in addition ayşe was afraid about her children's lives socially she has prince to protect him

[@remylewis8721]

@@emelbsh6573 she literally murdered her own children and an unborn child (a royal heir no less). She’s a horrible person regardless of the perspective. Also she was a woman of the harem, losing favor is always a possibility acting like that’s some kind of justification for her actions is ridiculous.

[@CadwallonMawr]

If there was no intent to harm the kids, there was no crime. And if it wasn't forseeable it can't really be said to be her fault. Farya probably didn't even know Kosem was letting Ayse see the kids since she was in isolation Farya did make a mistake though going to Ayse's chambers but its hardly surprising given that Ayse killed her baby, wrecked her life, she was probably still grieving. But then again why didn't Murad tell Farya and Kosem what the real sentence was & order them to keep it secret? Why didn't he order Farya not to go to Ayse's chambers since he should have known that was possible? Why did Kosem let Ayse see the kids when she was meant to be in isolation? Why didn't Silahatar do more to prevent Ayse being left alone with the kids when he saw the danger & he was meant to be protecting the sultans family?

[@broke_person9664]

I hate how Farya said : "I wanted to hurt her!! She killed my baby!!" Well wasn't keeping her in isolation and away from her children enough!? That u told her what she wasn't supposed to know!!

[@shirereeve287]

No, isolation is not even close to being enough. Ayse committed high treason by stealing Kosem's seal and letting Gulbahar take a copy which caused the capital to burn and thousands of citizens to die, so there was no chance the penalty would be anything less than execution.

[@MrA1R1S]

Losing a child is a big pain, so Farya Sultan was right and Kosem snake

[@CusterJ1954]

Plus she was firmly told not to leave the palace as she was pregnant w her first baby..but of course she did not listen and cost her poor unborn baby 😢

[@motab9907]

her eye roll when he said "Farya" at 3:03 is gold

[@emelbsh6573]

😂😂😂 me when i heard someone's name i hate him

[@teresacastro1263]

When the mother-in-law likes the first wife better than the second wife.

[@lilibethmorales8247]

The first is not to be called wife only farya because ahmed marry her legally

[@teresacastro1263]

@@lilibethmorales8247 Fine. When the guy's mother likes the baby mama better than the wife.

[@abdul7945]

@@teresacastro1263 We can call her consort, not just baby mama lol.

[@fabiansaah6482]

Funny, when in real history Ayshe was Murads Haseki Sultan untill his death - she lived longer than he did - and had a good relationship with Kösem, while Farya is pure fiction. But in history there wasn't enough drama for a tv show.

[@nadyanilla3685]

Yes, farya always make problems since she was arrived

[@CadwallonMawr]

I don't really think so. If you watch closely most of the problems involving Farya are actually caused by Murad, Silahatar & Ayse - but Farya usually gets blamed. It's something of a theme. For example - when Farya first arrives at the palace, Kosem wants to send her to Uskadr palace but Murad decides to keep her there (at Silahatars suggestion). Kosem assumes that Farya talked Murad into it & gets really mad at her. But Farya knew nothing about it & she hadn't talked to Murad about it at all. In fact Farya was packed and already to go to Uskadr, and she actually wanted to leave altogether to save her mother but Murad wouldn't let her go.

[@majatadic549]

Actress who plays Kösem is such a beautiful, graceful woman. Really the best choice for the role of such a significant figure in Osman empire history. Beren Saat was good but "older" Kösem is amazing 🥰

[@GabiGin]

Couldn't agree more! She looked the most to Kosem Sultan. Her gestures, voice, face expressions...

[@aeroTnz]

True but both were amazing

[@marthakluin738]

l don't agree she loods in nothing al al. at the younger one

[@diamond4603]

As an actress in real life I lost my respect for her. She visited to my country for cinema confrence in the middle of stage and an many people she showed many atrocitiy and how ignorant she was.

[@fouziasayeed4553]

Which country?

[@CusterJ1954]

This Physco got more than she wanted and the way she stared at his kids at the feast table as she lurks in the shadows and yet still playing games!

[@Kurczak00]

The scene with Kaya might be beautiful if Murad wasn't a damned psycho.

[@user-xe1lx1pg9q]

He wasn’t

[@namabest1]

Ironic that kosem trusted sanavber, who was a spy. Guess her guard was down in her hatred of farya (who I can't stand at all either). Yeah I get why kosem doesn't trusty her, but sanavber's plot line kind of reminds me of yasmin and kosem fell for gulbahar's trick just as much as humasah did with safiya. Crazy how she didn't see that coming having lived through it.

[@monikajain7803]

I loved how Kosem killed Farya..also she was with Murad to rule as her mother advised her even when got pregnant her mother said d same n again she went against Kosem after delivering twins....how Farya can underestimate Kosem so much😂😂😂😂

[@shirereeve287]

Sorry, I don't follow why quite a few viewers liked seeing a slightly built almost defenceless young woman murdered in her sleep by 3 full grown men, one of whom is supposedly a great & brave warrior. Particularly when the young woman has not done anything wrong intentionally / willingly, she is the faithful wife of Kosem's son & best friend of her daughter, she is the mother of Kosem's newbown grandchildren, she is not Kosem's enemy & she saved Kosem's life by exposing Sanavber as a spy when Sanavber had been poisoning Kosem,.The way Kosem & Kermankes' characters had been depicted to that point, it's not even plausible that they would have done it at that time. Simply put I think those murders are terrible writing which makes the show jump the shark & become a hot mess until Ibrahim becomes sultan. And if those 2 murders were such a brilliant masterstroke by Kosem, its worth asking how Kosem would have felt if Atike committed suicide because her husband & best friend are murdered in the same night or if Murad demanded that Kosem swear on her children that she did not order the murders, or if Murad just summarily executed Kosem or Kermankes out of hand on suspicion. I think the main problem with season 2 is that it didn't have a credible long term villain who could exude menace like Safiye Sultan or Halime Sultan in season 1. So the writers probably decided very late in the piece to make Kosem the arch villain for the rest of the season, and that doesn't really work until Ibrahim becomes sultan. And yes we know Farya is anything but defenceless in the daytime when she has her Katana and can see her enemies approach but that wasn't the case here

[@monikajain7803]

@@shirereeve287 Farya was not innocent she was there to take over and rule along with Murad she was there with this intention since the beginning about which Kosem was completely aware....secondly the series was all about survival of the strongest...she neva died wheneva attacked alive so may they found this opportunity best to kill her 🤣

[@shirereeve287]

While I can understand some viewers hold to that theory, I don't see the evidence for it. We never see Farya herself do or say anything suggesting she has an interest in ruling. Farya never discusses Ottoman politics with Murad, the closest she gets to it was asking Murad for mercy for the young man who was outside without a lantern, but Murad disdainfully tells her to stay out of his business, sends her back to the palace & then comes back from hunting later with Sanavber as his new favourite. Farya didn't even know that Kosem had been banished to the old palace till Atike tells her & even then Farya did not know why. The only thing that even hints at Farya having some interest in ruling is an absurd 2nd hand comment from the ridiculous Catherine of Brandenburg character. But as the writers like to send mixed messages, it's better to rely on what the characters do & say themselves to help understand their motivations. So the idea that Farya was interested in ruling or that she may have been trying to turn Murad against Kosem is a nonsense. They are red herrings. Based on Farya's own words & deeds, her only interest is to love & support Murad & (if possible) to give him sons, to have & raise a family with him & to help Murad be the best he can be, which is exactly what you would hope to see from a loving & dutiful wife of the Sultan. There is quite a symbolic scene midway through season 2, where Murad finishes dressing in front of a mirror as Farya helps with the finishing touches & she then stands behind him looking over his shoulder at his reflection in the mirror beaming with love & affection at her husband whom she is clearly very proud of. It's helpful to contrast that scene with Murad's enthronement scene where Kosem stands in front of Murad (not behind him like Farya does) & casts shade on him. Though Kosem may suspect that Farya wants to rule as that is what Kosem would want to do if she was in Farya's place. Kosem probably also worries that Farya's primary loyalty is to her husband & not to her; unlike Ayse & Turhan who Kosem mistakenly thought were loyal to her. Sadly, the writers don't give Farya a chance to show Kosem how much she loves Murad; unlike in season 1 where the writers have Anastasia stay with Sultan Ahmed when he has small pox which shows Handan Sultan that Anastasia truly loves Ahmed. And even if you are correct, its still too much of a stretch to believe that Kosem & Kermankes would stoop so low at that stage, as there was nowhere near enough justification & as they had not been depicted as being that cowardly, cruel or evil by that stage. It was also really stupid for Kosem to do this as it could easily have backfired & resulted in Atike committing suicide &/or Murad executing Kosem or Kermankes out of hand on suspicion. But Kosem & Kermankes are given the plot armor for the murder normally reserved for Sinan Pasha's nefarious actions. So it seems clear that the murder is just appallingly bad writing done because there was no genuine long term villain; so the writers decided to suddenly parachute Kosem into that arch villain spot. And just to loop this back to this scene, Kosem's decision to murder Farya allows Farya's twin newborn baby princes (Kosem's grandsons) to be kidnapped & murdered by Gulbahar Sultan & Sinan Pasha. Because if Farya had lived, she would have protected her sons & watched over them like a hawk & prevented the kidnap. So ironically Kosem was probably more responsible for the deaths of 2 of her own grandchildren than Farya was for the deaths of 2 of Kosem's other grandchildren (i.e the ones who Ayse murdered). @@monikajain7803​

[@ineffablegabe]

​@@shirereeve287your comment answers itself. You seriously don't see the problem viewers will have with a European princess/wife of Ottoman Sultan wielding a katana, a Japanese sword, while she keeps uselessly harping on "I'm a princess, I'm a princess!!" There was nothing plausible or likable about this ridiculously made up character.

[@lalagarcia94]

Murad, Spun his Web and Farya having that title it went to her head believing that in his eyes that she's above all the rest. Kosem messed up telling her you come as a slave and then become Royalty did we not see it in her face when she heard that, like all of them are beneath me I'm already Royalty my bloodline and Kingship is beyond these of whom I am encompanied . She had no real respect for them at best she tolerated them to earn her title SULTANA!!!

[@tiffanysanchez9184]

Farya the character was a real piece of work.., she said it wasn’t her fault but it was….. I look at her face and am disgusted she has Ayse and those kid’ blood on her hands!

[@shirereeve287]

Sorry to say but the blood is not on Farya's hands at all. Its on Ayse's hands alone as she intentionally murdered her own children, no one else did. That said, Farya should never have told Ayse & she should have handled this conversation with Kosem better, but she didn't have any intent & she didn't even contemplate possible consequences. Plus Silhatar & Lalezar should both have prevented Ayse being left alone with her children but both failed woefully. And Murad should have told Kosem about the execution warrant but he didn't and Kosem shouldn't have ordered that Ayse could see her children again but she did. And Kosem and Murad shouldn't have let Ayse stay in the palace after Ayse's first betrayal but they ended up letting her stay anyway. If any of those 4 people did even one of those things differently then Ayse couldn't have murdered her own children. So its illogical and unfair for the writers to make Farya the scapegoat for this.

[@lalagarcia94]

Farya, should have never played the I Will Take Your Man Game Just Watch !!! Murad stripped her down for a reason it was His game all along, you want to be with me knowing that I am a SULTAN ? I will show you what I want you to see bye the time you wake up it's too late for you to turn back and go home to Momma. You never give your jewels to a SULTAN and ask for them back !!!

[@hakimnazir6998]

At least, finally Kosem kills both of them. Hahaha

[@smsadeqeen3481]

Farya was the reason of dozens of evil under palace in.... And she doesn't step back going just to takeover whatsoever... Kosem being a queen did right

[@shirereeve287]

This is a fantastic scene. Kosem's eye roll when she finds out that Farya told Ayse is epic. Farya should have handled this conversation better. She just needed to silently listen while Kosem vented, say she regrets telling Ayse, that she made bad mistake & she will accept whatever consequences Kosem sees fit. Had she done that Kosem may have forgiven her. Normally, Farya admits her mistakes & accepts responsibility even if it may mean her own death, like when she explains her betrayal to Murad, or when she admits to Kosem to almost drowning Ayse. While Farya is not actually responsible for the deaths of Murad's children, she should still not have told Ayse. Ayse alone was responsible as she alone murdered them, & Farya did not know what Ayse would do. Plus Silahatar & Lalezar Kalfa should have stopped Ayse being alone with the children but both failed. Also it could never have happened without Kosem & Murad making the decisions they did. Also Silhatar doesn't tell Kosem that he saw the danger but failed to do anything other than telling Lalezar not to leave Ayse alone with her children (which was completely inadequate). But Farya's refusal to accept any responsibility is still surprising & inconsistent with her character. Storyline wise the only explanation I can think of why Farya acted that way is that she had been so worn down by the terrible things that happened to her, in particular by the murder of her unborn baby, by Murad betraying her with Sanavber & by Murad blaming her for his children dying even before he finds out that Farya told Ayse. Sadly characters doing things that are inconsistent with their character in order to drive the plot line is common in season 2 unfortunately.

[@tashfiarahman9600]

My point ❤

[@harisazam3339]

Me and all my homies hate Fariyah

[@yafayafa9601]

"Its not my fault!", i don't know how come Kosem didn't kill her. The crazy Kosem is better than Farya.

[@ΜαριάνναΒ-λ1τ]

Even tho Murad ordered that ayse won't see her children again kiosem once again disobeyed him and send them to her and she killed them so it's her fault as much as farya's

[@yafayafa9601]

@@ΜαριάνναΒ-λ1τ I can agree with it, yes. The only think i can be angry about right now is that they put my favourite actress in the role of Farya. I love that actress, i hate Farya's character.

[@ruXyShinoda]

I could never stand farya. But what s with her hair? It looks messy and unbrushed and dry,like the crew wants us to hate her :))

[@danran1157]

Exactly the same what i think ! she was from beggining awful, messy, she didn’t have that elegance what other women did

[@Kurczak00]

Yes, this hair looks terrible especially for a Turkish girl, whose hair is usually gorgeous.

[@hakimnazir6998]

This is natural hair. Dont judge the person because only her hair.

[@AlmaSdance]

I love Farya ❤. The best of all.

[@Sky-tv4wb]

@@hakimnazir6998 no its not her natural hair!!! It's messy and needs brushed. Her hair always looks like $hit!!!

[@hardikakamble7004]

Farya has messed with wrong chick...n its her last strock🤣

[@mariakelly90210]

1:56 It's Turkish George Clooney!

[@nufashayda9250]

“Its not my fault..” wahhhh so easy to say huh farya. It was you and your darn big mouth. Never like her character thank god kosem put her to the end 😁

[@remylewis8721]

I don’t understand why everyone is so convinced Ayse was this selfless martyr and that Farya was this evil woman. Literally ALL of Ayse’s actions that eventually led to her taking her own life and then MURDERING her children were incredibly selfish. If you want to say Farya (in the context of the show-I know she’s not a historical figure) didn’t understand her place in the harem that’s fair BUT she was a free woman and of royal blood and made it clear to Murad she would not be another one of his concubines. Also at this point she is his legal wife. So if Farya didn’t know her place... clearly neither did Ayse. She was immediately jealous of Farya, tried to have her killed and did everything in her power to separate them, so how exactly is that her being selfless and following the etiquette of the harem? And if you want to say she was the mother of a prince and had higher rank, ok, but that all changed when Farya was pregnant. They were on equal footing. Then Ayse had an unborn child murdered, an assumed prince of the empire. Then to cover that up she caused the deaths of hundreds again in an incredibly selfish effort to keep murad away from Farya and caused a dangerous riot. Then when confronted with the possibility of being held accountable for her own actions (that no one made her do) she decided to murder her children to spite her husband and more than likely to cause the blame to fall on Farya, hence the note. Selfish through and through.

[@sherrydenny7158]

Well said! I agree with you. Cause and Effect!

[@xianxiannn]

Exactly, I still don't get why everyone blames Farya when it's all clearly Ayşe's fault.

[@EloraSelah]

Nothing changed the fact ,she stole ayse husband and the father of her children right ? Farya too threatened to kill sanavber , because she was jealous similar to ayse. Only that ayse wasn't smart. Only when Kosem is at loggerheads with farya she gets rid of her . Farya wanted to hurt ayse , she was already going to die , farya would have got rid of her. Only to enjoy the pain .From the start ,she was being too much in her head ,for a princess status she lost and gave up. She herself chose this life

[@emelbsh6573]

Despite everything ayşe did , farya didn't have the right to tell ayşe that she will be excuted , just imagine what can a person did when he know that he will die , of course he cannot control his actions

[@remylewis8721]

@@emelbsh6573 this is the most asinine defense of someone who poisoned her own children to death.

[@zarshasayed7415]

What is the name of the song played in the beginning

[@benazirjainlabadeen]

Nanourisma song .. kosem s song bgm

[@alzahraa3891]

I wonder why they meke farya looks like that. Why they didn't give her beautiful dresses and hairstyles as the others. simple concubines even look better than her. I don't like farya but I feel like she ruins the theme of the show which annoys me alot. 😂

[@ghousiakhan9509]

He's crying for Farya...

[@LeiraHP]

I love this night that he went to sleep with his baby her

[@bigcats4352]

Biggest disaster of Ottoman Empire kusem sultan decline the empire when his rule and bravest sultan Murad 4 and even stronger than Suleiman

[@DeeDee-en8ob]

I absolutely love Farya character. I like she can take care of herself. Sad to see her died.

[@harisazam3339]

💩💩💩 character

[@Sky-tv4wb]

Yeah she took real good of herself swinging from the ceiling 🙄 get real, this character is a complete waste of time and a joke/ mockery you fool

[@shirereeve287]

Agree 100% but sadly Farya couldn't always take care of herself within the harem, or the mansion or the bazaar. She needed more protection than she got from Murad. Compare how well Sultan Ahmed protected Anastasia/Kosem after she arrived in the harem in season 1 with how Murad protects (or doesn't protect) Farya. Farya would also have benefitted a lot from having an experienced servant who was savvy about how things worked in the harem, Anastasia/Kosem got this with Cennette Kalfa and to a degree with Bulbul Agha, but Farya only ever had Madame Margrette who like herself was also a novice about the harem. In my view, Farya should have taken Narin into her service after Ayse died, as Narin was very loyal, clever, gave good advice, knew how things worked in the harem, knew how to get information & knew how to recruit spies. And yes, I agree that Farya didn't really need protection if she was out in broad daylight, had her Katana in hand and could see her enemies approaching but that wasn't ever the case in the harem.

[@MrA1R1S]

Kösem bir yilan

[@harisazam3339]

STFU. She's the great mother queen ❤️

[@MrA1R1S]

@@harisazam3339 oh yes. She is responsible for her own sons deaths, like Mehmet, Murad, Ibrahim, for the Valide Sultan death (like Handan and Safye sultan) and a lot of more

[@shahidwaris6596]

Farya the warrior😊

[@anthyavila9726]

Farya the manipulative ratchet foreign wench

[@Шей-МагомедАбдурзаков]

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