Kosovo - Math Olympiad Question | A Nice Algebraic Equation

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@cschaka1
@cschaka1 Жыл бұрын
You must be kidding, this can't have been proposed in a Math Olympiad contest. This is 5th grade normal day-to-day stuff. The Math Olympiad questions I remember from Romania in the 90s didn't even look like Maths, that's how hard they were. You didn't even know what that was.
@lucsas9277
@lucsas9277 9 ай бұрын
as a fellow romanian i agree tho this stuff is more 7th grade level cuz binomials arent taught till 7th grafe
@oficialmundodiverso
@oficialmundodiverso 6 ай бұрын
Que dices esto es imposible
@ANIMX_FLAME
@ANIMX_FLAME 5 ай бұрын
Bro quadratics aren't in 5th grade 😂
@hive123kbps4
@hive123kbps4 Ай бұрын
​@@ANIMX_FLAMEyes they are ..in asia
@imoyal
@imoyal Жыл бұрын
1) Combination of any value for X and 0 for y is a solution. 2) Combination of any value for x and the same value for y is a solution.
@pphguimaraes
@pphguimaraes Жыл бұрын
Using some Basic factorization, we can rewrite this as (x+y)(x-y)=(x-y)^2. This can be further simplified to (x-y)[(x+y)-(x-y)]=0. After some algebra this reduces to y(x-y)=0. This equation has two distinct solutions: y=0 for all x And x=y, for all x,y in Reals
@劉志仁-r3l
@劉志仁-r3l Жыл бұрын
y=0 for all x, [or not and] x=y, for all x,y
@scmtuk3662
@scmtuk3662 Жыл бұрын
These are the actual solutions, according to symbolab. {x = y; y ≠ 0} - this means that if y is not 0, then x is equal to y. For example, if y = 25, then x must also be 25. {y =x; y = 0} - this means that if y = 0, then x = 0, however, the true answer is that if y = 0, then x can be _anything_ However, for some reason, there's no such symbol that means "literally everything ever". There are symbols that mean "real numbers", "natural numbers", etc, but there's no single symbol in mathematics that means "x can be anything you want, ever, no exceptions. The reason is, if the values are the same, then x² - x² = 0, obviously, and then (x - x)² = 0² = 0 If however, the value of y = 0, but the value of x is "anything", then x² - 0² = x², and (x - 0)² = x². In other words: The following solutions will work: If x and y are the same value, then it will work. If y is 0, but x is any value, then it will work. For example: Let x = 25, and y = x, thus y = 25 25² - 25² = 625 - 625 = 0 (25 - 25)² = 0² = 0 Now let x = 25, and y = 0 25² - 0² = 625 - 0 = 625 (25 - 0)² = 25² = 625
@paulcolburn3855
@paulcolburn3855 Жыл бұрын
correct. y MUST be 0. But x can be anything. She was good in her solution until the last 30 seconds. Stop talking then.
@scmtuk3662
@scmtuk3662 Жыл бұрын
@@paulcolburn3855 Actually, y doesn't need to be 0. It can either be 0, or whatever x is. I.e y = x or 0, but x = y, only if y =/= 0
@paulcolburn3855
@paulcolburn3855 Жыл бұрын
@@scmtuk3662 I agree
@scmtuk3662
@scmtuk3662 Жыл бұрын
​@@paulcolburn3855 It just makes sense, even if you don't actually use values for the variables. If we let x = y, then: x² - y² = x² - x² = 0 (x - y)² = (x - x)² = 0² = 0 If however, we let y = 0, and x = x, then: x² - y² = x² - 0² = x² (x - y)² = (x - 0)² = x² The difference between using y = 0, and y = x, is that if y = x, then the solution to both sides is 0, if y = 0, then the solution to both sides is x².
@realtorn1do
@realtorn1do 10 ай бұрын
i did the same
@Juice_Wrld_9
@Juice_Wrld_9 Жыл бұрын
A much simpler method can be applied. Just convert x²-y² to (x+y)(x-y) and decrease (x-y)² to x-y.
@neodro4831
@neodro4831 Жыл бұрын
This is a common mistake because we do not know the conditions on x and y, hence when you are dividing by (x-y) to cancel both sides if x=y you are dividing by zero, which is incorrect. hence this cannot be done and you have the actual solution(S) of y=0 and x=y
@rogeraffleck8677
@rogeraffleck8677 11 ай бұрын
@@neodro4831 This is NOT a mistake. You can see just by looking that x=y is a solution. So then you have to ask yourself if there are any other solutions. So assume x not= y and then you are free to divide by x-y. Like most teachers you are trying to turn something simple into something complicated.
@bilalfilali6334
@bilalfilali6334 9 ай бұрын
​@@rogeraffleck8677you can't make a decision in math juste by looking
@WattSnehp
@WattSnehp 7 ай бұрын
​@@rogeraffleck8677 yess. Simple solution.
@joon_neel
@joon_neel 4 ай бұрын
Exactly.....acc to me decreaae x-y from both side, is the easy way to understanding
@erautome
@erautome Жыл бұрын
En passant par les produits remarquables, c'est plus facile. Dans le premier terme de l'équation, on doit considérer que X²-y² = (x-y)×(x+y). Aprés, on fait tout passer à gauche de l'équation, une mise en évidence de (x-y) etc...
@Psykolord1989
@Psykolord1989 Жыл бұрын
Before watching: x^2 - y^2 = (x+y)(x-y), thus: -> x^2-y^2 = (x-y)^2 -> (x+y)(x-y) = (x-y)(x-y) PRESUMING that x-y =/= 0, divide by x-y -> x+y = x-y 2y = 0 y=0 If y=0 then x^2-y^2 = x^2 - 2xy -y^2 -> x^2 = x^2. First set of solutions: y=0, x = any real number. SECOND set: Multiply out RHS: x^2 - y^2 = x^2 - 2xy + y^2. Subtract x^2 and add y^2 on both sides: 0 = -2xy + 2y^2 -> 2y^2 - 2xy = 0 -> 2y(y-x) = 0. This actually gets us to our solutions faster, but I'm working this out as I type it, so my mistake. This means either 2y = 0, y-x = 0, or both. 2y=0 -> y=0, x = anything y-x =0 -> y = x. Our solutions are thus: Y=0, X = any real number And Y=X
@oussamajaber3512
@oussamajaber3512 Жыл бұрын
The solution must be {x=y such that y belongs to R}
@Problemsolver434
@Problemsolver434 Жыл бұрын
No. 2+2 is not equal to 2-2 The answer is 0 for both
@themaster9041
@themaster9041 Жыл бұрын
​@@Problemsolver434You are wrong. For example: x = y = 3 3^2 - 3^2 = (3 - 3)^2 9 - 9 = 0^2 0 = 0
@Zerusa766
@Zerusa766 Жыл бұрын
@@Problemsolver434 2+2? You wrong
@Problemsolver434
@Problemsolver434 Жыл бұрын
​@hadidmarwan9780 I am not. Can you read at all. I just gave an example of a solution that fits exactly what the commenter said and is obviously wrong. I was proving a point. The comment basically implies that all Real numbers are a solution to the problem
@suptibhattacharjee9811
@suptibhattacharjee9811 2 ай бұрын
​@@Problemsolver434 Nope. x = y , where x belongs to Real numbers is one of the solution. Just put a random real value of x in the equation and you will see that x² - x² = 0 (for left side) And (x - x)² = 0 (for right side) So the equation holds true for x = y where x belongs to R.
@turtletalks1
@turtletalks1 Жыл бұрын
Would it not be faster to... (x+y) (x-y) = (x-y) (x-y) x+y = x-y 2y=0 so y=0
@kee1zhang769
@kee1zhang769 Жыл бұрын
You are right it is quicker to do it from (x+y) (x-y) = (x-y) (x-y). Obviously if x=y for any x, the equation is true. If x≠y then we can divide both sides by (x-y) to get x+y = x-y and y=0 from your argument, and x can be any number in this case.
@turtletalks1
@turtletalks1 Жыл бұрын
@@kee1zhang769 and I would argue that is the correct answer because plugging back y=0 into the equation, X could = 0, but could equal anything else. So X has an infinite number of possibilities
@Fernandez218
@Fernandez218 Жыл бұрын
this is the way i did it from the thumbnail in my head lol factorization so much easier.
@user-hi1kl2ej6x
@user-hi1kl2ej6x 6 ай бұрын
I thought the same 🤔
@bakura9683
@bakura9683 Ай бұрын
Neglecting (x-y) on both sides destroys one of the solution which is x=y
@Dalesmanable
@Dalesmanable Жыл бұрын
I read Maths Olympiad then spent more time looking for a catch than getting the solution that was so easy I did it in my head.
@ayoubkhlifi4903
@ayoubkhlifi4903 4 ай бұрын
x^2-y^2=(x-y)^2 imply (x-y)(x+y)=(x-y)^2 for x different from y: imply x+y=x-y imply y=-y imply y=0 ,and replace the y by 0 we will have x^2=x^2,so x has infinite solutions. for x=y: infinite solutions for x and y
@sauravbisht2019
@sauravbisht2019 Жыл бұрын
x²-y²=(x-y)² (x+y)(x-y)-(x-y)(x-y)=0 How take (x-y) common then (x-y)(x+y-x+y)=0 (x-y)(2y)=0 Thus , (x-y)=0 or (2y)=0 Which means x=y or y=0
@AmitYellin
@AmitYellin 2 ай бұрын
x²-y²=(x-y)² (x-y)(x+y)=(x-y)(x-y) If (x-y) is not 0 then x+y=x-y 2y=0 y=0 If x-y is 0 then x=y Did it in my head in ten seconds...
@alcionidas649
@alcionidas649 Жыл бұрын
I really love your videos. Thank you so much!!!
@davethomson5921
@davethomson5921 5 ай бұрын
One equation with 2 unknowns has no unique solution. X=0 for all Y, Y=0 for all X, Y=X for all Y and X.
@lusalalusala2966
@lusalalusala2966 4 ай бұрын
Your final answer should be: (x, 0) and (x,x), for any value of x in the domain of the equation.
@piyushpandey2480
@piyushpandey2480 Ай бұрын
Very well explained
@sudhakaranpillai9623
@sudhakaranpillai9623 Жыл бұрын
(x+y)(x-y)=(x-y)(x-y) (x+y)=(x-y) x=0,y=0 and x=any real number
@Statistica101
@Statistica101 Жыл бұрын
It could also be 2y^2 -2xy=0 2y^2 = 2xy Y^2= xy Y=x y=x=1
@amireallythatgrumpy6508
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 7 ай бұрын
y^2 = xy should be written as y^2 - xy = 0 and factored to y(y-x) = 0. You lost the y=0 solution.
@jim2376
@jim2376 Жыл бұрын
By inspection the following work: x = 1 or -1 and y = 0.
@amireallythatgrumpy6508
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 7 ай бұрын
Any inspection check should show that y = 0 works regardless of x.
@sushreesibanimohapatra7405
@sushreesibanimohapatra7405 7 ай бұрын
It is not right right The formula is x2-y2= (x+y) (x-y)
@samriddhisingh7783
@samriddhisingh7783 Жыл бұрын
Can you make video for science Olympiad??
@evgtro8727
@evgtro8727 Жыл бұрын
The equation contains two variables x and y. Therefore its solution must be given in the form of a pair (x,y). You cannot just say y=0 is a solution.
@paulcolburn3855
@paulcolburn3855 Жыл бұрын
y must be 0. In order for this equation to work, y must ALWAYS be 0. x can be anything.
@evgtro8727
@evgtro8727 Жыл бұрын
@@paulcolburn3855 Try to write your statement as an answer in the proper mathematical form.
@abhinavmehrauwu
@abhinavmehrauwu Жыл бұрын
Ma'am but equation with two variables have infinite solutions right?
@jmlfa
@jmlfa Жыл бұрын
Not correct: Y=0 is indeed a solution, but X then can take any value, not just X=Y.
@amireallythatgrumpy6508
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 7 ай бұрын
There are two different solutions. It's true when y = 0, or when y is the same as x.
@user-hi1kl2ej6x
@user-hi1kl2ej6x 6 ай бұрын
(x-y)×(x+y)=(x-y)×(x-y) x+y=x-y 2y=0 y=0 x= infinite solutions
@rahulp9352
@rahulp9352 21 күн бұрын
Find f(s) where f(s)=1+1/2^s+1/3^s+.....=0
@edumathhub
@edumathhub 11 ай бұрын
Cool video
@pawelskiba5169
@pawelskiba5169 Жыл бұрын
x^2 - y^2 = (x-y)^2 (x-y)(x+y) = (x-y)(x-y) | (x-y) => x y first solution x+y = x -y | -x y= -y => y =0 second solution check y=0 x^2 = x^2 check x=y x^2 - x^2 = 0^2 0=0
@Call_ZZ
@Call_ZZ 5 ай бұрын
very easy but good practice i guess
@zakariazaki7513
@zakariazaki7513 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video keep going 🤠 greeting from Morocco
@enes3573
@enes3573 Жыл бұрын
Bu soru Türkler için çok basit. This question is very simple for Turks.
@properbeatz
@properbeatz Жыл бұрын
x=1, y=0 is anther soln, unless I'm mistaken.
@amireallythatgrumpy6508
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 7 ай бұрын
That would be covered by y = 0. It is true if y = 0 no matter what x is.
@नेाटटिवदिललीआळेधीप्रग
@नेाटटिवदिललीआळेधीप्रग Жыл бұрын
Ques. find value of x and y. ans. after solving, y = 0 ... i x = y ... ii from i and ii, we get, x = y = 0 so, x = 0 and y = 0 ... final answer.
@soheilabarahimi-sw3bj
@soheilabarahimi-sw3bj Жыл бұрын
X=1. Y=1
@ashokkukalekar1214
@ashokkukalekar1214 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@economics01
@economics01 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@Mardouck
@Mardouck Жыл бұрын
Why this questions so easy?
@economics01
@economics01 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@ABG__GARMERZZ
@ABG__GARMERZZ 3 ай бұрын
mam the answer you got x=y know mam we know that y=0 so that we can substitute the value of y in the equation of x so that we get x=0 is that correct mam ?
@gatorpuppy
@gatorpuppy 8 ай бұрын
infinite solutions 🤯🤯🤯 as long as x = y
@hmunjam
@hmunjam 2 ай бұрын
Why not x = y = 1?
@mauri46100
@mauri46100 6 ай бұрын
What if y=0 and x may have any value you want?
@jesuspuhwillreturn
@jesuspuhwillreturn Жыл бұрын
What really used in life . I mean real time where applicable?
@MabelGyamfi-v9g
@MabelGyamfi-v9g 5 ай бұрын
I think this a basic math for binomial is too easy
@ijeomachigozieejefobiri9911
@ijeomachigozieejefobiri9911 11 ай бұрын
Think about a much simpler and faster method to teach us later
@vijayannair2316
@vijayannair2316 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@chakrig6080
@chakrig6080 2 ай бұрын
Do any of you know this pen brand?
@lawrenceliebman9079
@lawrenceliebman9079 Жыл бұрын
y = 1 also works
@pawelskiba5169
@pawelskiba5169 Жыл бұрын
x=2, y=1 4-1 (2-1)^2
@scmtuk3662
@scmtuk3662 Жыл бұрын
There's no real way to write the correct solution in symbols, so I'm going to describe it in words. The value of x can be anything you want it to be. And, the value of y can either be the same value of x, _OR_ 0. If we let y = 0, x² - 0² = (x - 0)² x² = x² However, if we let y = x, then: x² - x² = (x - x)² 0 = 0² 0 = 0
@amirah23
@amirah23 Жыл бұрын
@@scmtuk3662so y is dependant on x’s value, but not vice versa?
@scmtuk3662
@scmtuk3662 Жыл бұрын
​@@amirah23 Basically yes. x can be anything you want. But y must be either the same value of x, or 0.
@AASHUKUMAR-bo6si
@AASHUKUMAR-bo6si Ай бұрын
1by 2 is answer 😅
@saurabhgarg9935
@saurabhgarg9935 Ай бұрын
This is a very simple question. Can't be an Olympiad question 😅
@lifeatph
@lifeatph Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I don't understand it. Make it simple to understand..... it's more complicated dear ....too vague
@mathcem138
@mathcem138 Жыл бұрын
No what is this X=y Any value
@VijayaRamya-k9t
@VijayaRamya-k9t Ай бұрын
X^2-y^2=(X-y)^2 (X+y)(X-y)=(X-y)(X-y) X+y=x-y 2y=0 y=0 (1) X^2-y^2=(X-y)^2 X^2-y^2=X^2+y^2-2xy 2xy=2y^2 X=y (2) From (1)&(2) X=y=0
@안녕하세요-b6w9t
@안녕하세요-b6w9t Жыл бұрын
Too easy for Korean
@chandanmeher2897
@chandanmeher2897 Ай бұрын
This equation makes no sense
@djhumantorch
@djhumantorch Жыл бұрын
Kosovo 😀😀😀😀 Serbia, you mean
@l_h_2
@l_h_2 7 ай бұрын
She means Albania🇽🇰🇦🇱
@djhumantorch
@djhumantorch 7 ай бұрын
@@l_h_2 In your sweetest dreams, pal, Kosovo will be free once more
@fsponj
@fsponj 4 ай бұрын
​​@@djhumantorch Kosovars & Bosnians were oppressed enough by Serbians
@mariakos756
@mariakos756 3 ай бұрын
1:31 or , not and
@aamirahmed898
@aamirahmed898 9 ай бұрын
Not good enough
@劉志仁-r3l
@劉志仁-r3l Жыл бұрын
Shame on you. That wrong. The answer is y=0 or y=x
@Dosadniste2000
@Dosadniste2000 Жыл бұрын
Kosovo is Serbia, thank you.
@harshakalikiri6587
@harshakalikiri6587 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@noanmee
@noanmee 9 ай бұрын
Is this Olympiad for dumbest kids? if x² - y² = x² - 2xy + y², so -2xy = 0. So => x = 0 or y = 0
@oksanalysenko671
@oksanalysenko671 2 ай бұрын
Жах.Не має відповіді і якщо взялися щось пояснювати то не дуоіть людям голову,а пояснюйте до кінця правильно ,а не просто коментуєте розв'язання ,як для сліпих.
@juancarlosvergaramartinez8234
@juancarlosvergaramartinez8234 Жыл бұрын
This demo is wrong, error
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