Block Classic In Depth Review (Archery Target Review #2)

[@seanborck5710]

I think the increased penetration at longer ranges is caused by the arrow flex being reduced the further it flies, reducing lateral friction in the target. Great testing series!

[@digitaldogs233]

Someone knows about lateral friction, or just friction in itself. So yes you are correct.

[@lazydragonslayer]

My thoughts exactly.

[@digitaldogs233]

@@lazydragonslayer Yep alot of factors go into how an object moves in speed, especially arrows. And i just watched one vid on you're playlist about spiders building webs on different drugs, seen simular ones and they are fascinating. I live in uk so we don't have venomous spiders although the false widow does bite. But we got a big house spider stoned on weed and it was the most funniest thing I've seen. Little guy couldn't walk straight. So we put it outside in a safe space, woke up next morning and it was still there, but as soon as it noticed us it freaked, jumped up ran round in circles then ran away lol. I hate spiders, however would never kill one, bad karma.

[@robertsumner3615]

I wish I had watched this before I bought my Black Hole. Pretty clear the Block is superior. Good to see such a thorough , unbiased review !

[@Lost_Hwasal]

I ended up ordering one of those clicker counters off amazon to keep track of how many arrows i shoot.

[@peterreece6547]

One thing you learn when taking up archery, don’t become emotionally attached to your arrows and targets. Arrows get broken or lost and targets fall to pieces in what feels like no time at all. I have used layered foam targets in the past and their life span is not long. Weather permitting I shoot for an hour at a time and in that hour I’ll shoot approximately 320 arrows all are field points from a 34# 68” bow. So after 1 week there is a lot of wear to the target. I don’t use broad heads as here in the UK it is illegal to hunt with any type of bow and arrow so I have no reason to shoot with broad heads. Keep your vids coming, looking forward to your next target distruction.

[@athysrock101]

Thank you for making these videos. I was shopping for targets and didn’t know what to buy. Now Ill watch all of these videos before I buy one. Maybe between now and then I will also be convinced to buy a Bones bow. Thousands of arrows with The Bones is an advertisement in and of itself.

[@antoniodittman5820]

I understand the limitations and why you can't but i would have loved to see testing to failure on every target and then just testing broad heads separately or something. Really interested to see if you can get 2x or 3x before failure on this one or if its like 2x price for 150% more shots. I personally try to avoid foam targets because of the waste and prefer something biodegradable or burnable anyway but still would be interested. Great videos as always

[@bigl2627]

Keep it coming! Thank you for this series.

[@matthewdee6023]

Thanks for making these videos man!

[@MrJakeyftodler]

I have this target. Bought it last year. Super happy. I used to blow through bag target so fast. I shoot alot of broadheads through it. Mainly Qad exodus. My bow is set to 70lbs. I usually shoot 3 broadheads at a time. I get plenty of penetration. So I just unscrew my broadheads from the back then pull the arrow back. Definitely best way to get life out of your target. Great review

[@KINGeViLDuGy]

I have this target in bedroom that I shoot before going to bed, I love it.

[@joshsmith3650]

I’m just getting into archery and need to buy a target. Thank you so much for making these review videos.

[@jonathanbennison9220]

Thank you Kramer. FWIW, I use the other one, with our crossbow...

[@jimmybrown3349]

My dream is to one day build a bow from scratch using some of your designs from your early videos, and taking it to Alaska to successfully harvest a black bear.

[@joedaniels4646]

Save your money and buy a Bulldog Target with a lifetime warranty! I got one for about $135 and its awesome!

[@jasonthulen]

Thank you for what you do. This is all GREAT information.❤️

[@Kurtdog63]

If the broadhead is coming out the back, you can unscrew it before you pull the shaft out to prevent it from ripping chunks out backwards. I have owned one of these and pulling arrows out damages the target more than shooting arrows into it.

[@-fazik-3713]

Great series! Thanks!

[@johnd7215]

Nice work as always Kramer! This is a great target. Block 6x6 is another nice layered target. Delta Mo Foam Green line and Morell yellow jack 350 are also nice. They are tougher fused layers and hold up better to broadheads. I personally prefer a dedicated BH target. All of these mentioned I have pumped a can of expandable foam into the cores when shot out and that extends their lives quite a bit.

[@danielames3937]

Where is the pdf?

[@digitaldogs233]

Im learning archery so got one of those 3 layer staw round target's, and they are actually very forgiving considering the price. But mine is starting to get abit worn, i would say after 1000 or so arrows best get a new one. Someone mentioned lateral friction, which he had a valid point. I saw this guy do a test with bullets to see how they move in speed when they leave the barrel, it was fascinating and the equipment he used even more fascinating, it was a long block that had lazers going back and forth in a tunnel. He proved that when a bullet leaves the barrel it actual speeds up, he put this down to atmospheric friction, or air friction, he used two types of barrels, the rifling barrel and none rifled, obviously the rifled barrel allowed the bullet to cut threw the air thus kept a more constant speed when leaving the barrel, but still at a very short distance its like they hit a wall then carry on threw it, increasing speed and then slowing down due to drag force and even air pressure. Im wondering how this would effect arrows, considering that most shoot under 60lb bows, but would be fascinating to know if an arrow reacts the same, due to friction air densities etc. Im interested in science although im not too educated on it, so there was a few things this guy said that went over my head regarding how objects move whilst going very fast. I noticed at some distances theres not alot in how fast, hence how powerful an arrow is. Ive only ever seen this test done once, and for the life of me cant find the video because it was a few years ago, so lost in my phones algorithm. But speed verce friction verse air is very fascinating as all have factors in how objects move.

[@JoePerez-f2q]

Great series so far. It would be interesting if there were wood arrows in the mix to see the damage that wood arrows with field points cause.

[@billbailey7965]

I think the reason for increased penetration at distance is because of the friction design of the target. Reduced speed equals less heat and friction allowing the arrow to travel further into the target. This is a really cool design. In theory, the faster your bow, the more heat and friction the arrow will create, stopping it sooner.

[@Kurtdog63]

Even though the arrow is slowing down the moment it leaves the bow, it has to go a certain distance to recover from archer's paradox AND arrow oscillation which impedes penetration.

[@rafalb4424]

Good review, I have a question about Morrell Targets - High Roller what do you think cost vs quality?

[@darkarrowarcher2107]

I was wondering if you had any ideas on how to possible re re rap it once it starts falling apart maybe a way to preserve the target to make it last longer ?

[@daveeastcott9323]

Bro U shld get 499 volunteers, stand shoulder to shoulder in a line at a field and try to shoot all 500 arrows at once! Its be like a medieval siege

[@reelfishing002]

I have yet to test them , but bought some cheap targets for just $20 , let see how well these stack up to my other targets 😅

[@markmallett8618]

I want to see the rest of tour test

[@danfeeney956]

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the layers to be positioned vertically rather than horizontally?

[@blackvikingthrone]

Would this be suitable for an 130lbs adder crossbow?

[@twinengineer]

The target is using "heat" or friction to generate the stopping power. The further you move, the less speed you have. Thus less heat being generated allowing further penetration.

[@thephoenicianarcher5267]

Brother i use this target only for tuning it magnify arrow flight perfectly i shoot bags for training 🏹💪

[@sprk11]

so I am noticing that by changing distances you are spreading out the shots more than the first block test. Is that a fair comparison now back to the first block target. Just a thought loving the comparison though.

[@kingdomheartist3791]

archery science is my favourite flavour of science

[@davidfrazier9732]

Man I have been watching your videos for a few years now, since way before you moved to the new shop. I just realized I was not subscribed. I am now and very sorry thank you for the great content and I'd like to get one of the kids bows for my niece.

[@kramerammonsarchery]

Thank you so much it means alot!

[@boratsagadiyev987]

Sorry I know this isn’t related to this video, but I’m trying the DIY bow build, and I’m having some trouble with the fade out to 3/4” on each end of the bow? It seems like the top and bottom of the bow will be way too narrow if I do 3/4” on each end. Any help would be appreciated

[@TheBUTOKUKAI]

Whatabout the draw weight of your bows? You didn’t mention that. I guess it’s important data.

[@billsey420]

Are you gonna have charts at the end of the series. Just curious

[@kendion4597]

The little further distance is because the arrow reach full speed before it hit the target. Up close the arrow hits before it reaches hos max speed. That is why it penatrated less

[@DavidBrooks-vb8do]

I know this request isn’t about this particular video. Would you mind doing a review on the hammer sling bow by SimpleShot? I just purchased one and would like to see your thoughts and feedback on the product. I am new to your channel and I live your videos. You have great content. Thank you.

[@B_r_u_c_e]

Thank you.

[@oakland002]

Price info would help too

[@williambechtel]

You should of also calculated the cost per arrow based off price of target and how many arrows it can handle. Then use that as another comparison.

[@jamesmaxwell2753]

I'm a bigger guy. What bow would you recommend for a 34" - 36" draw length.

[@kramerammonsarchery]

Wow thats a long draw - we sell the bones XL at shatterproof archery and that goes to 34" draw that is what I am currently recommending. There are some others out there for longer draws but I have not tested them out.

[@Lumos__Nox]

I had a question, how come you haven't suggested a bale of staw for a target? While yes it can be messy to move some times, the cost and durability has some other targets beat by a long shot. The huge draw back I find is the weight of moving it.

[@-fazik-3713]

It swallows arrows. Literally.

[@Lumos__Nox]

I have not had that issue, but I am shooting from 25 yards, but at the most, they drive in 6in with a field tip at 40lbs draw weight.

[@mat_in_texas]

I’ve had a few of these, no way your gonna get 5000 shots on one of these. At least not with an adult bow. Like you demonstrated with the broad heads, once they start breaking down, they break down very quickly.

[@caseyk6625]

DO NOT shoot any broadheads into any layered foam target! Broadheads quickly shorten the life of the layered foam when they cut it up. I have a couple of these block targets and I use them only for bareshaft testing. Repeated use, even with just field points, tears these things up. I was able to make it through only 1 winter shooting indoors with this exact target. I've decided that it's great for bareshaft testing but I got a more durable target for constant practice.

[@sprucetree2695]

sup brother getting alot of audio in the left ear

[@bigben9242]

Shoot a spider target

[@jameskelson1891]

None of this makes any sense to me. First, it is not reasonable to expect any target to hold up to broadheads. Next, many target archers, such as aspiring Olympic archers, will shoot several hundred arrows a day; i.e., in the vicinity of 5000-10000 arrows a month. How long will this target last with that level of use?

[@6n518]

Not for crossbows...

[@johnl7593]

No offense but this target is junk! It didn’t last 2 months for me.

[@kramerammonsarchery]

None taken - Whats worked best for you I would enjoy taking a look at it!