Kramnik suing Chess.com, Hikaru NOT GUILTY

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@GothamChess
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@ninaronkainen7615
@ninaronkainen7615 5 ай бұрын
Hello
@realteamwall
@realteamwall 5 ай бұрын
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@DrakoLykoi
@DrakoLykoi 5 ай бұрын
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@kugelblitzingularity304
@kugelblitzingularity304 5 ай бұрын
If u say please in an anime girl voice I'll consider it
@Jock-pl8ey
@Jock-pl8ey 5 ай бұрын
Pin of shame
@paulm2518
@paulm2518 5 ай бұрын
Imagine indirectly accusing someone of cheating with no solid evidence then threatening to sue an entity for merely recognising said allegations and providing evidence to the contrary. Kramnick has lost it.
@Ghost75299
@Ghost75299 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, what even is the case for the suing? Defamation? 😂
@CMullly
@CMullly 5 ай бұрын
even worse than that he claims people are cheating then says he gonna sue over trolls trolling him. XD
@christophermcmahon3069
@christophermcmahon3069 5 ай бұрын
Pretty direct accusations if you ask me
@El_IF_B_2
@El_IF_B_2 5 ай бұрын
Bobby Fischer 2.0
@cbirdman
@cbirdman 5 ай бұрын
@@El_IF_B_2 Walmart Bobby Fisher lol
@fabishak5198
@fabishak5198 5 ай бұрын
Props to kramnik for suing a board game!
@DerpsterTheNoob
@DerpsterTheNoob 5 ай бұрын
But how will this lawsuit affect the lebron chess bot’s legacy?
@gr8chess
@gr8chess 5 ай бұрын
@@DerpsterTheNoob so true
@EmmanuelLee1691
@EmmanuelLee1691 5 ай бұрын
I thought he sued a website 🤔
@UpperChores
@UpperChores 5 ай бұрын
king about to do a bongcloud in court.
@silaswarren8418
@silaswarren8418 5 ай бұрын
@@EmmanuelLee1691 No he sued a board game that is over a thousand years old
@user-kh1sw7cc4b
@user-kh1sw7cc4b 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik fell victim to a one mover. Came out and attacked Hikaru without any follow up moves
@RustyKlowbi
@RustyKlowbi 5 ай бұрын
This is underrated
@maibigbutt3746
@maibigbutt3746 5 ай бұрын
he has highly miscalculated his danger level move with his "taking legal actions" turn
@kristoferhailes4627
@kristoferhailes4627 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is a beautiful example of chess ability and intelligence having no correlation
@stasiso
@stasiso 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same until I watched the whole video. Kramnik actually has some valid points.
@rsr22.3
@rsr22.3 5 ай бұрын
@@stasisowhat valid points? He’s gone completely crazy with , I’m sorry to say, jealousy. It’s difficult for him to digest that someone can actually be this good and that farming isn’t cheating.
@kristoferhailes4627
@kristoferhailes4627 5 ай бұрын
@@stasiso he doesn’t make any points at all. He makes statements without supplying quantitative evidence. When people responded to say the figures he was spouting didn’t add up and gave actual calculations behind their workings, he just went ‘Nu-uh, I’m right because I’m a chess man hurrdurr’
@dark3rthanshadows
@dark3rthanshadows 5 ай бұрын
+5 inteligence ,-1 Wisdom
@thienhuynh7962
@thienhuynh7962 5 ай бұрын
I’d call it wisdom and not intelligence
@ulycelgab
@ulycelgab 5 ай бұрын
As you grow older in chess, either you fade away like a legend or grow crazy like Bobby. Kramnik is the latter...
@arcaneben9171
@arcaneben9171 5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile there is Vishy who continues to shine and make the chess world a better place even after growing old
@KaramAlayan
@KaramAlayan 5 ай бұрын
Lol
@mysterymastermind175
@mysterymastermind175 5 ай бұрын
What happened to bobby
@tabman1480
@tabman1480 5 ай бұрын
​@@mysterymastermind175bro became a madman and became a misogynist
@techpixler
@techpixler 5 ай бұрын
Dang your Account is 14 years old!
@CHESSLiyo
@CHESSLiyo 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is on literal self destruction mode rn. Clearly this is not the way. Sad to see.
@sakib123321
@sakib123321 5 ай бұрын
Literally watching the second coming of Fisher fr fr rn
@logirex
@logirex 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward to him going full flat earther next 😉
@TsongaJose
@TsongaJose 5 ай бұрын
The Mandalorian here. This is the way.
@tubsy4519
@tubsy4519 5 ай бұрын
@@sakib123321 except Kramnik isnt as good as Fischer [imo]
@lucianoscelza853
@lucianoscelza853 5 ай бұрын
I smell those Parkinson genes kicking in
@fried_riceee
@fried_riceee 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is just a really good guy giving creators free content, much respect
@waluigi43
@waluigi43 5 ай бұрын
And you are a really good bot.
@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979
@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979 5 ай бұрын
​@@waluigi43Bro's literally calling everyone a bot 💀
@I_love_anime21
@I_love_anime21 5 ай бұрын
​@@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979I think bro's dumped by one😂
@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979
@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979 5 ай бұрын
@@I_love_anime21 yea probably
@sherylbegby
@sherylbegby 3 ай бұрын
The memes and gags are a great tickle.
@jacobk23
@jacobk23 5 ай бұрын
By calling Hikaru’s win streak “interesting”, he was hedging his bets in case there was blowback. Once that blowback came he could pedantically claim he didn’t accuse Hikaru of cheating because he didn’t actually use that word. And then when people called out his bull, he did what other people in similar situations do: they play the victim and try and gaslight everyone.
@bevs9995
@bevs9995 2 ай бұрын
I think you can question without accusing.
@anewfuture
@anewfuture 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is like that guy who is convinced the earth is flat, and you cannot convince him otherwise, or he will accuse you of being a government insider.
@KaramAlayan
@KaramAlayan 5 ай бұрын
Lmaooo
@vintce6019
@vintce6019 5 ай бұрын
or being a sheep
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. And it's driven by ego; he thinks he is the bearer of ultimate truth and there is nothing that can change his conviction.
@Blinkers2007GameDev
@Blinkers2007GameDev 5 ай бұрын
lol exactly
@Blinkers2007GameDev
@Blinkers2007GameDev 5 ай бұрын
an idotic individual@@objective_psychology
@UvReflexes
@UvReflexes 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik suing Chess for defamation, while trying to defame hikaru, who could more easily sue him back for defamation, and is claiming Kramnik himself is being defamed by chess for doing their job, is truly a chess moment of our time. What an egotistical, childlike response lol. Thanks for lurking shout out btw
@sailor5853
@sailor5853 5 ай бұрын
That's a good point. In fact it's so good I give 24h to delete it or I will sue you for being too reasonable.
@chensium
@chensium 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik lives in a house with wallpaper and does his videos from the dining room with his phone in portrait mode. I doubt you would get much from suing him 😂
@pylon39
@pylon39 5 ай бұрын
Too much time spent on probability of win streaks, not enough time spent on probability of "please direct all future communication to our in-house legal counsel"?
@waluigi43
@waluigi43 5 ай бұрын
@@pylon39 4 bots talking to themselves.
@pylon39
@pylon39 5 ай бұрын
@@waluigi43 but I'm not a b-- Damn, that's what a bot would say, isn't it?
@Yugigreg
@Yugigreg 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is that guy that cannot accept someone being better than him so bad that he creates drama then plays the victim
@hess6wi
@hess6wi 5 ай бұрын
Peak Kramnik was better than peak Hikaru at chess.
@cbplayz2374
@cbplayz2374 5 ай бұрын
@@hess6wi Kramnik is no longer peak Kramnik. In 2023 there's no reason Hikaru couldn't be better than him (especially in speed chess, which is undeniably Hikaru's specialty, even over the board). As legendary a player as he is, these accusations are unfounded and he should've backed out when chesscom dropped their results, as they're the chief authority on weeding out cheaters and understand the signs better than he does.
@InVersionStudio
@InVersionStudio 5 ай бұрын
Just erase Kramnik's name and you see another well known GM😁
@joshuahietala5174
@joshuahietala5174 5 ай бұрын
@@hess6wi Kramnik's peak rating is lower than Hikaru's lol
@kramareva7446
@kramareva7446 5 ай бұрын
Peak Kramnik was also massively accused of cheating against Topalov..😂😂😂
@ZendikarMage42750
@ZendikarMage42750 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Kramnik can in the same post say that he wasn't accusing Hikaru and then also say that he wants the website to specifically investigate Hikaru and provide proof is wild to me. I would love for someone to explain to me how that's not an accusation of cheating
@huffenagle
@huffenagle 5 ай бұрын
Hikaru just needs to beat Kramnik 40-something times in a row in 3 minute blitz and resolve this issue. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Frogesh
@Frogesh 5 ай бұрын
I dont think hikaru can do it. Kramnik at his worst is 2700 elo which is super gm. so unlikely to outplay him, BUT he can be MUCH faster than kramnik
@andyyang3029
@andyyang3029 5 ай бұрын
​@@Frogeshkramnik is not a super GM in blitz, it's so different. Daniel naroditsky could blast kramnik in many blitz games in a row and he's on the lower end of OTB GMs
@kitsune090
@kitsune090 5 ай бұрын
The problem with Hikaru is that he plays with his twitch chat on... anybody can be hidden analysing the game with stockfish and send him moves suggestions encrypted with seemingly random messages... there's no way to be sure if one is being assisted or not... GMs need only 1 top move suggestion to win a match!!
@DrQuailMan
@DrQuailMan 5 ай бұрын
The core concept that Kramnik is missing is that over thousands of games, continuous streaks of results are more likely. You can't really demonstrate that in a single session of 40-50 games.
@Maver1ck911
@Maver1ck911 5 ай бұрын
​@@kitsune090LOL take a hike
@Unclegob115
@Unclegob115 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for acknowledging your lurkers, we appreciate it
@JosephLachh
@JosephLachh 5 ай бұрын
*lilstutter7430 has lost lurker status*
@jasond.5723
@jasond.5723 5 ай бұрын
@@JosephLachh*JoesephLachh has lost lurker status*
@alveolate
@alveolate 5 ай бұрын
the only lurkers i acknowledge are the ones i killed in brood war 😎
@JosephLachh
@JosephLachh 5 ай бұрын
@@jasond.5723 *snowball effect initiated*
@jeonfn8608
@jeonfn8608 5 ай бұрын
@@jasond.5723 has lost lurker status
@Goryus
@Goryus 5 ай бұрын
"I don't know anything about statistics..." "...but obviously I know more than any statisticians or mathematicians" ~ V. Kramnik
@theprocrastinationschool5545
@theprocrastinationschool5545 5 ай бұрын
This is the part of Kramnik's career where he goes crazy and loses his mind.
@Chunda8
@Chunda8 5 ай бұрын
Fischeritis? Fischerona? Fischer-19? I think I like Fischerona.
@bestpriest2224
@bestpriest2224 Ай бұрын
Fischerona it is​@@Chunda8
@ThrasherMurat
@ThrasherMurat 5 ай бұрын
Is Kramnik TRYING to lose all the respect he has? Cuz he's on a speedrun right now
@knownas2017
@knownas2017 5 ай бұрын
We might see a new World Record at this pace
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 5 ай бұрын
He will get a run faster than James Charles.
@ffilac
@ffilac 5 ай бұрын
I srsly doubt he ever had any respect to begin with, really
@allanshpeley4284
@allanshpeley4284 5 ай бұрын
His social ELO has definitely been trending downward in recent days.
@whocares2277
@whocares2277 5 ай бұрын
He is following the Dream.
@ReconissanceMa
@ReconissanceMa 5 ай бұрын
Called Hikaru a cheat then cries that he's being defamed. LMAO
@yakovvidberg7035
@yakovvidberg7035 5 ай бұрын
Krammnik is 48 years older than you don’t think he know what is lmao
@thatonefrenchguy937
@thatonefrenchguy937 5 ай бұрын
*insert clown meme here*
@kitsune090
@kitsune090 5 ай бұрын
But Hikaru is a cheater... it's a fact!
@Ben9362
@Ben9362 5 ай бұрын
@@kitsune090 That's a very non-factual statement.
@randomthings-ln8wp
@randomthings-ln8wp 5 ай бұрын
This should be pinned because it *certainly* deserves the pin of shame
@Ryanmuniverse
@Ryanmuniverse 5 ай бұрын
Imagine being so good at chess that it causes a former world champ to question his own skills, to the point where he sees himself as unable to pull off a similar feat, and then thinks you are cheating for it cuz ur so far ahead of everyone else
@MonkeyAndChicken
@MonkeyAndChicken 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik has a wicked case of Dunning-Kruger going on.
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 5 ай бұрын
he's not accusing hikaru, but he's demanding an investigation and completely rejects any investigation that finds hikaru innocent. But he's not accusing.
@obsabeshir9979
@obsabeshir9979 5 ай бұрын
he is...
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 5 ай бұрын
@@obsabeshir9979 well done
@andyyang3029
@andyyang3029 5 ай бұрын
​@@obsabeshir9979you might want to learn how to pick up on some sarcasm
@DudeWhoSpeaks
@DudeWhoSpeaks 5 ай бұрын
@@obsabeshir9979 oh, you poor soul
@iceyroo
@iceyroo 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik truly has lost it.
@no_problem8023
@no_problem8023 5 ай бұрын
Oh, Kramnik. (Sung to the tune of Oh, Comely)
@vintce6019
@vintce6019 5 ай бұрын
when your brain fried from too much chess calculations
@fbch32
@fbch32 5 ай бұрын
This is confusing. At this point, I think Kramnik is jealous of Hikaru. The only thing I can think of to make sense of this situation,
@pitju99
@pitju99 5 ай бұрын
​@@fbch32He might be somewhat jealous but I refuse to think that's why he accuses him, he's constantly implying that certain people are cheating, I think he's literally going insane unfortunately
@ConsciousExpression
@ConsciousExpression 5 ай бұрын
He hasn't lost his cc account though. Which is unfair, because any other player who made false cheating allegations public would be banned from the site. It is against the TOS, and against the rules.
@knownas2017
@knownas2017 5 ай бұрын
Now I feel like people are going to intentionally cheat against kramnik in chess just to troll him
@zman14
@zman14 5 ай бұрын
Great content Levy. Thanks for keeping us updated on the situation 👍
@babyyoda69420
@babyyoda69420 5 ай бұрын
Obviously, Vladimir doesn't deserve the things that were said to him, but honestly, what was he expecting? He accused one of the most well-liked chess players on the planet, didn't provide evidence, then expected everybody to just leave him alone? Not sure what's going on with Kramnik, but it's obvious his understanding of the internet is...outdated...to say the least.
@mequana
@mequana 5 ай бұрын
Of course He deserved Most of the Things which were Said about him As Long as they are true He just yapps bullshit and should get called out for that
@izjgxj4275
@izjgxj4275 5 ай бұрын
​@@mequanaThat does not mean he should be sent threats and insults though. As a matter of fact no one deserves that no matter the circumstance. I fullheartedly disagree, even if you put out some stupid statements there is no reason to return to the person with hate in this form. This however is true for any person and should be standard online as well as in any face to face scenario. Sadly it really isn't though and especially on the internet many feel compelled to start insulting and sending people threats because they disagree on something... it's sad really
@namelessice
@namelessice 5 ай бұрын
​@@izjgxj4275you're right, he doesn't deserve the hate. But wtf was he expecting? It's the Internet we're talking about here
@vintce6019
@vintce6019 5 ай бұрын
@@izjgxj4275 1. It's the internet 2. He didn't close his DMs
@bazarbekovic
@bazarbekovic 5 ай бұрын
He provided evidence, he posted his statistics. It doesn’t prove anything, but he posted it
@kamo8741
@kamo8741 5 ай бұрын
At this point I am convinced Kramnik has lost his mind. How can he be so wrong yet so full of himself is a mystery to me...
@markernest2254
@markernest2254 5 ай бұрын
Dunning Krueger Effect - confidence and ability are often inversely correlated.
@sailor5853
@sailor5853 5 ай бұрын
Is it? I never seen anyone so full of himself being right. Doubling down and being wrong are life inhaling and exhaling.
@kamo8741
@kamo8741 5 ай бұрын
@@markernest2254 That explains it, I had no idea. Still, it's sad to see what's happening with him.
@t.j.webster5545
@t.j.webster5545 5 ай бұрын
Washed up and wants attention. That's what this feels like
@deo-37
@deo-37 5 ай бұрын
you'd be surprised how many people in the world are like that
@codywoodin2361
@codywoodin2361 5 ай бұрын
Levy. Thanks for all of the awesome chess content! I am one of those lurkers that you gave a shootout to. I bought a signed copy of your book and love the lessons. I'm using chess as an avenue to connect with my sons. You're the best!
@itskmillz
@itskmillz 5 ай бұрын
It's pretty hilarious that he said he's going to show "REAL TRUE STATISTICS" to backup his assertion that Hikaru is cheating and then complains when people say he is accusing Hikaru of cheating.
@obsolete959
@obsolete959 5 ай бұрын
What makes it even better is that he still hasn't shown those real true statistics. If he has undeniable proof of hikaru cheating, why isn't he publishing it?
@TheMentallord
@TheMentallord 5 ай бұрын
@@obsolete959 Beecause his proof his "Hikaru had a few long winning streaks". That's it, that's all he had.
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is simply losing IQ points with each new post he makes..... like wtf? Also, yes, he should sue and lose. The only way he's going to realise he's being an idiot.
@Doughillman
@Doughillman 5 ай бұрын
Someone this far gone will never realize that they're wrong.
@kitsune090
@kitsune090 5 ай бұрын
Why you love hikaru so much?
@Doughillman
@Doughillman 5 ай бұрын
@kitsune090 Knowing that Kramnik is being a delusional idiot has nothing with how much one likes Hikaru.
@samweII
@samweII 5 ай бұрын
​@@kitsune090To know that a former WCC who's been accused of cheating himself would not ponder before accusing another is beyond wild. We're not "loving Hikaru so much," it's loving common sense - the truth even.
@ludacrisbutler
@ludacrisbutler 5 ай бұрын
He will say that the judge is a fan of Hikaru and didn't rule fairly
@qag3513
@qag3513 5 ай бұрын
I love how Daniel and Erik from the Chess Team used "with the deepest respect" and you can tell that they're trying to be as delicate and genuine as possible to a well renowned and (once-)respected figure of the community, while Kramnik using the same phrase back at them comes off as unbelievably condescending.
@Cheese12ilhateilove
@Cheese12ilhateilove 5 ай бұрын
I love levy talking about chess drama. Thank you for updating us on the events
@shortspecimen
@shortspecimen 5 ай бұрын
Hikaru: life is good. I am doing well Kramnik: YOUR CHEATING
@Jayjayuk12345
@Jayjayuk12345 5 ай бұрын
you're
@boreasreal5911
@boreasreal5911 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik played a series of blitz games on November 1st and he wasn't able to replicate such a streak. I think we all would find this very interesting...
@OmAdiTrendz
@OmAdiTrendz 5 ай бұрын
nah💀💀
@1stlullaby484
@1stlullaby484 5 ай бұрын
tf dude you killed me🤣🤣🤣
@DeathStriker187
@DeathStriker187 5 ай бұрын
The Ego of Kramnik is INSANE, to accuse someone whos super good and explains their thinking perfectly during his chess streams. Why doesnt he just admit he was wrong, and move on. His cause is great, dont get me wrong, but this is terrible execution and so unprofessional.
@barddz4646
@barddz4646 5 ай бұрын
I mean, trying to be impartial here, if hikaru is actually cheating it's not hard for a top player like him to look at the top move in an engine and explain why that's such a good move
@user-qu5gs8ly5i
@user-qu5gs8ly5i 5 ай бұрын
@@barddz4646why would he need to do that if he is a top player though
@cosmos1487
@cosmos1487 5 ай бұрын
​@@user-qu5gs8ly5ibecause computer is better? It's like teacher knows more so when they teach, a top student immediately gets what they are trying to teach Like hikaru just didn't know that move but computer knew so as soon as computer shows the move hikaru understands it why it's the best Though I also think it's stupid of kramnik and hikaru isn't cheating What I wrote above is just me explaining why would a top player cheat but I don't think hikaru cheats
@user-qu5gs8ly5i
@user-qu5gs8ly5i 5 ай бұрын
@@JKenny44 cheating in chess is way too inconvenient, hes basically streamed a quarter of his chess career.
@barddz4646
@barddz4646 5 ай бұрын
@@user-qu5gs8ly5i maybe he wanted to set a record not even carlsen would be able to break, or anyone in any time soon, maybe he thinks he deserves more than he has alterady accomplished, Maybe he thinks setting a record will bring attention to him which means more viewers and money. I don't know what would be the reason, but there sure are many reasons to cheat (not saying i believe he has cheated or not, i haven't done much research myself about this)
@kr0mium
@kr0mium 5 ай бұрын
"buy proper calculators..." Omg I lost it
@IcyyKing-ur6pn
@IcyyKing-ur6pn 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoy the unbiased and informative review of anything going om. Really well put and always a nice lesson to learn that you present. Also, saw you on kitchen nightmares and I was like hey that's my favorite chess youtuber!
@SomethingStupid_YT
@SomethingStupid_YT 5 ай бұрын
Levy never fails to mention Magnus in the first 30 seconds of his video
@thegodv_
@thegodv_ 5 ай бұрын
levi roseman trying his absolute hardest to not mention mangus
@commentwarrior
@commentwarrior 5 ай бұрын
please don't steal comments for likes
@SomethingStupid_YT
@SomethingStupid_YT 5 ай бұрын
@@commentwarrior I didn't steal any comments, thats the first thing that popped into my head when I heard Magnus's name in an unrelated video 🙂
@commentwarrior
@commentwarrior 5 ай бұрын
@@SomethingStupid_YT you did
@HaydenNK3
@HaydenNK3 5 ай бұрын
that pfp tho 🤣🤣
@NDTLM
@NDTLM 5 ай бұрын
I laugh at my girlfriend for watching the Bachelor and yet here I am, watching hours of chess drama on KZbin 😂
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
Lmao it's why I got into the game
@bardiche1989
@bardiche1989 5 ай бұрын
And like you, his gf is getting into bachelors
@chensium
@chensium 5 ай бұрын
My wife said the same 😂😂
@derkommissar4986
@derkommissar4986 5 ай бұрын
​@bardiche1989 you sir won the internet
@bardiche1989
@bardiche1989 5 ай бұрын
@@derkommissar4986 👍
@jacobburke7
@jacobburke7 5 ай бұрын
Full time lurker here. Killer analysis as always Gotham. Much appreciated.
@zaccelisha2407
@zaccelisha2407 5 ай бұрын
Kranik is entering his Fischer phase
@Maxfr8
@Maxfr8 5 ай бұрын
Considering that Kramnik himself was once accused of cheating, you'd think he'd behave less stupidly. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
Projection is real
@Maver1ck911
@Maver1ck911 5 ай бұрын
He should think it over in the shitter before responding 🤣
@adamlouis3725
@adamlouis3725 5 ай бұрын
its projection, all this crusade is proving is that kramnik is a cheater
@ImAtrolI
@ImAtrolI 5 ай бұрын
that's just it though, his ego is hurt cuz he was the one being accused of cheating and now he got rekt
@foraminutethere23
@foraminutethere23 5 ай бұрын
It's his pride that people "lesser" than him are doing better than him. Non World Champions. Especially Hikaru because Hikky hasn't seriously studied chess for years.
@donjose9485
@donjose9485 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik needs to realise players reputation and integrity are everything to them. Hikaru has every right to defend himself when someone is throwing accusations with little to no evidence.Kramnik needs to stop being stubborn and back down before things get ugly
@MrRexxyboy
@MrRexxyboy 5 ай бұрын
It's too late, Vlad messed this one up - rep and integrity shattered for him now, this will follow him forever. A legal case could take months, until then it's trial by internet 😂
@MrDocninja
@MrDocninja 5 ай бұрын
Things already become ugly because of Vlads Ego and yes, he‘s so stubborn! And kind of jealousy like: Hikaru is getting older and he can’t be so good; I mean Hikaru is such a good player, he won 960 Fisher random( no usual openings, pure chess), he‘s one of the best chess players ever...
@sailor5853
@sailor5853 5 ай бұрын
Never seen anyone called Vladimir backing down despite the losses
@alveolate
@alveolate 5 ай бұрын
until kramnik's self-immolation, i always thought "smart" people were immune to dunning-kruger.
@jayeshrattnani8577
@jayeshrattnani8577 5 ай бұрын
It's very weird to watch the hans magnus and hikaru kramnik thing unfold in very different ways. I mean, both accusations had little to no evidence. Public opinion is very important ig
@tamagonbagel6569
@tamagonbagel6569 5 ай бұрын
Underrated Levy trope is always letting us know the year or date
@DanMan5000
@DanMan5000 5 ай бұрын
the man who is known for accusing people of cheating getting mad when people say hes accusing people of cheating is actually insane
@Chunda8
@Chunda8 5 ай бұрын
And 'scuse me but we are not going to forget when Topalov had to lock down the bathroom, very sussy on the part of Kramnik.
@nuvamusic
@nuvamusic 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik targeted the wrong chess player, the wrong fanbase. Very naive of him if he thought he was gonna get away unscathed with his innuendos. And now, his ego is making things worse, instead of just turn the page and move on, he's subjecting himself to even more attacks and criticisms, sinking his already trampled reputation. Because in the end, after everything is over (lawsuit etc), the facts won't change: Hikaru is not a cheater/ did not cheat. And chess history will read "former world chess champion went bonkers unable to process/accept that Hikaru's online chess achievement is humanely possible".
@sequinmichellefootdoggy622
@sequinmichellefootdoggy622 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik really tried accusing an ex speed chess champion and one of the top chess creators about cheating💀
@anupamrana177
@anupamrana177 5 ай бұрын
absolutely
@Chunda8
@Chunda8 5 ай бұрын
The Hikarumori will prevail! It's a shame because Kramnik had an amazing career, and this is just a pungent stain on his historically important legacy.
@simeongeorgiev4536
@simeongeorgiev4536 5 ай бұрын
At this point I really want to see a colab between Gotham and Legal Eagle about Kramnik's allegations
@FeketeBr
@FeketeBr 5 ай бұрын
And here I am waiting for a Numberphile video showing the maths
@Frogesh
@Frogesh 5 ай бұрын
@@FeketeBr or stand up maths actually. the same guy who did analysis of Dream cheating, recommend you check him out he's great and yes also appeared mutliple times in numberphile
@custard131
@custard131 5 ай бұрын
make it a 3 way with Matt Parker and your really onto something
@harleykf1
@harleykf1 5 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to Matt's next video where he builds a cog-based computer for cheating in chess
@custard131
@custard131 5 ай бұрын
@@harleykf1 i wonder what elo a cogputer based bot could get?
@juanjoseescanellas3798
@juanjoseescanellas3798 5 ай бұрын
Good analysis for a delicate situation. (Excellent)
@Katatopianos
@Katatopianos 5 ай бұрын
It’s clear to me that Kramnik’s goal is for everyone to interpret the statistics in such a way that will prove that Hikaru is cheating. He will never accept that he is not. The truth is that Kramnik has lost all credibility which now will hurt all of chess. He was trying to help catch cheaters but now he’s let them off the hook because his word means nothing anymore.
@ChrisTardif_
@ChrisTardif_ 5 ай бұрын
Mike Tyson once said, "Social media made y'all way to [sic] comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
The most based thing said in this century
@jamesdavis3851
@jamesdavis3851 5 ай бұрын
Better hope he doesn't see that [sic] and pop you for it
@epicchess2021
@epicchess2021 5 ай бұрын
My feelings too! Thanks for the video, Levy
@jaggy-snake
@jaggy-snake 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like his ego can’t let him put it in reverse gear. He’s strapped in and hitting the gas
@Technic2009
@Technic2009 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik beginning his villain ark with this
@paul_warner
@paul_warner 5 ай бұрын
You're making the best point that Mr Kramnik is acting like he doesn't know how the web works. But also, using a threat of legal action to publicly make demands is going to look very bad on him in court!
@knownas2017
@knownas2017 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Hikaru could take legal action against him, too. But I bet Hikaru literally doesn't even care.
@kitsune090
@kitsune090 5 ай бұрын
Lol hikaru's fanboys are everywhere....
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, the judge and jury will both likely turn on him as they realize he started everything and hurt Hikaru in the process
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
@@kitsune090 How does Putin taste?
@Neil_SM
@Neil_SM 5 ай бұрын
Shouting back at ya from lurking here in the shadows!
@ZHAOJIE
@ZHAOJIE 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout for lurking in the background 🤣
@ChessJew
@ChessJew 5 ай бұрын
Kram was my fav player. I'm deeply sad he lost his damn mind.
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
What's a really awesome game of his you love?
@uchicha_itachi
@uchicha_itachi 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheMosayatmost of his games in the Catalan, Petrofg and Berlin Defense. Checkout his games amazing style
@rizqidanirijal2888
@rizqidanirijal2888 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheMosayathis game against kasparov
@DarthCasus
@DarthCasus 5 ай бұрын
It's not uncommon for chess grandmasters. I love the way Bobby Fischer plays, but man he went so far off the deep end.
@andyyang3029
@andyyang3029 5 ай бұрын
​@@rizqidanirijal2888all 10000 of them 😂
@Ch.ember47
@Ch.ember47 5 ай бұрын
I'm one of the 'lurkers' you called it. I bought the gotham knights shirt and your recent book but I never comment. Thanks for bringing fun back into chess for me.
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
Wholesome ❤
@user-qm9ul6op9o
@user-qm9ul6op9o 5 ай бұрын
just enjoying the show. keep up the good work MR GothamChess
@2late2go2n8
@2late2go2n8 5 ай бұрын
Funny side of the story: Kramnik seems to be "above the law". There are not many Chess players who could accuse others in such a toxic manner while still being "respected". Being a former World Champion has its perks i guess.
@tor13128
@tor13128 5 ай бұрын
This is insane. I honestly cannot believe what Kramnik is doing. I also am in disbelief that Kramnik has cherrypicked comments in support of him and appears to think everything else is from bots or Hikaru fans. It seems Kramnik has watched some KZbin videos reacting to this and for some reason he can just block them off. Honestly, this is too unbelievable what Kramnik is thinking.
@RaniaIsAwesome
@RaniaIsAwesome 5 ай бұрын
Any level-headed adult knows that Kramnik has a point about Hikaru's statistics being suspicious. What you see in comments section like this is a bunch of kids who don't know anything. Maybe you could say the average adult is like GothamChess who has been respectful of Kramnik's observations while not advocating for them.
@Temptthedevil
@Temptthedevil 5 ай бұрын
It's hilarious that he's boasting about his petition getting 2K+ signatures so quickly when I quick perusal shows a huge chunk of them are just trolls.
@tor13128
@tor13128 5 ай бұрын
@@RaniaIsAwesome I don't read childish comments so that wouldn't the reason for my disbelief. Kramnik's methodology is simply incorrect which is the cause of my disbelief. I think your comment shed some light. I think perhaps any levelheaded adult who hasn't studied statistics or research methods might actually still strongly believe in Kramnik's methodology. This might be the reason why Kramnik's replies to theory/methodology/calculation based rebuttals is reduced to "bots" and "fans". Perhaps Kramnik is not sick in the mind, but simply that he is unable to comprehend others' works (in addition to narrowmindedness). This could explain how weird his responses are. Now it could make more sense that Kramnik, who lacks post-secondary education, might read/interpret everything as a simple "you're wrong". If Kramnik is unable to absorb the information being fed to him and is narrowminded, then he would only believe he holds the one true stat. Prior to your comment, I was more worried about Kramnik's health because he exhibited similar symptoms of certain patients I've observed. To be honest, I hope it is this new possibility because I do hope Kramnik (and everyone else) to be healthy. But honestly the situation is so absurd that I still worry that it could be the other possibility.
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
Judging from the comments, his supporters are much more reactionary and botlike
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
@@RaniaIsAwesome I'm sorry Mr. Mathematician but can you please provide your credentials to determine something is suspicious?
@StephenMarkTurner
@StephenMarkTurner 5 ай бұрын
Is he going to be his own lawyer as well as statistician?
@knownas2017
@knownas2017 5 ай бұрын
And maybe his own judge?
@Jordan-ud4qv
@Jordan-ud4qv 5 ай бұрын
@@knownas2017don’t forget him being the jury and witness
@chensium
@chensium 5 ай бұрын
He's not suing anyone. It's the math. The math is suing everyone.
@wimjongman
@wimjongman 5 ай бұрын
Hey I'm a lurker. Just enjoying the show every day. Thanks for all your work.
@jonathandecaillet4293
@jonathandecaillet4293 5 ай бұрын
I dont usually comment, but i ll do it now for the first time on this channel. Just wanted to thank you for your content, for your book and your way of explaining chess in a fantastic way :) you contribute on making chess very enjoyable and fun :) thanks a lot ! Greetings from snowy Zürich :)
@PtolemysEye
@PtolemysEye 5 ай бұрын
I thought Hikaru was being harsh when he said Kramnik was insane. After this it's pretty clear, the man has gone round the bend.
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
👌
@ia3423
@ia3423 5 ай бұрын
i love how hard gotham is trying to not say that Kramnik "accused" hikaru because of the legal action he might take LMAO
@objective_psychology
@objective_psychology 5 ай бұрын
Except he literally did accuse Hikaru. That kind of narrow pedantry would not hold up in most courts.
@ia3423
@ia3423 5 ай бұрын
@@objective_psychology i know he did, but gotham still don't want a piece of it. He even changed the title of one video because it said that kramnik accused hikaru.
@waluigi43
@waluigi43 5 ай бұрын
@@objective_psychology Aren't you one of the people who made the despicable jokes about Niemann using tools in his ... ?
@stavrosskoufis3008
@stavrosskoufis3008 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video where a series of players at any rank play a bunch of games with different levels of cheats ie, hints, eval bar, etc
@Ceca_02
@Ceca_02 5 ай бұрын
that just sounds like a cold war of mathematicians
@ToniT800
@ToniT800 5 ай бұрын
Hi Levy, Just want to say that I bought most of your courses on the black friday and so far I could indeed improve my game a lot, even though I watched 20% of them (Honestly I rewatch certain lectures before starting my chess evening). Are you planning on making a course about the Scandinavian Defence? That would be great. Your course are great and you are a cool dude. Keep doing what you are doing:)
@Korpiklan
@Korpiklan 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is out of his mind. It's just funny how they proved to him several times such a streak is possible and he's still like "that's fake data, give me the real data". lol Even Hikaru went to play the other day and got a 40+ streak easy, just to prove a point.
@Temptthedevil
@Temptthedevil 5 ай бұрын
So many mathematicians tried to explain this to Kramnik on his blog, showing their work, and Kramnik still brushed them all aside and called it nonsense. He just doesn't understand math.
@L4v3
@L4v3 5 ай бұрын
@@Temptthedevil Kramnik never went to high school so how could he possibly understand their explanations?
@pride1069
@pride1069 5 ай бұрын
I like how he uses "deepest respect" at the end after insulting them lol
@davidballantyne4492
@davidballantyne4492 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik's brain is decaying ever faster
@SgtsPepper11
@SgtsPepper11 5 ай бұрын
The biggest piece of news in this video is the Opera still exists
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
Almost every youtuber I watch has promoted it this week 😂 they're going all out
@absention390
@absention390 5 ай бұрын
OPERA GX
@MorningNapalm
@MorningNapalm 5 ай бұрын
Opera for chess!
@fsexplorer9727
@fsexplorer9727 5 ай бұрын
Been using opera for a long time, the only browser that compares at this time is Firefox
@L4v3
@L4v3 5 ай бұрын
I actually use it
@alanklm
@alanklm 5 ай бұрын
I'm very sad for Kramnik and a bit sad for the whole chess community, it will not help the battle against cheaters.
@johngleich1379
@johngleich1379 5 ай бұрын
I hope we can get back to a time where the biggest story about Chess is the actual games!
@flacertony2450
@flacertony2450 5 ай бұрын
You asking for a villain, it looks like we got 2
@Tony_Goat
@Tony_Goat 5 ай бұрын
This guy is getting ready to be the Billy Mitchell of the Chess world.
@davidanoble
@davidanoble 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see when my cultural spheres intersect, lol. However, Kramnik isn't a sociopath like Mitchell. He's merely going crazy. I think Kramnik would be an ok dude if he wasn't so possessed by his emotions. Meanwhile, I'm not sure Mitchell has the capacity for any emotion except selfish anger and smugness, at least not anymore.
@bigbird4481
@bigbird4481 5 ай бұрын
I haven't heard about Billy Mitchell is a hot minute, I need to see what he's up to
@davidanoble
@davidanoble 5 ай бұрын
@@bigbird4481 if you want a biased but well-informed opinion, one of the people he's suing is a KZbinr - Karl Jobst, who Mitchell is suing for defamation.
@cwp24
@cwp24 5 ай бұрын
@@bigbird4481nothing new, more of the same, lies ontop of more lies ontop of still suing Karl Jobst and losing the narrative as more evidence comes out that proves he’s a liar. Billy is just getting bodied everyday.
@bigbird4481
@bigbird4481 5 ай бұрын
@@davidanoble oh I love Karl, that's where I heard about little Billy lol
@Macjlmp
@Macjlmp 5 ай бұрын
Displate made a THE ROOK one. So proud.
@RickNemo
@RickNemo 5 ай бұрын
when levy says something more imporrtant then magnus b8irthday uk it gets crazy
@Incognitoaf69
@Incognitoaf69 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik has really never heard the meme "Bro thinks he's Hikaru"
@KaramAlayan
@KaramAlayan 5 ай бұрын
Lmaooooo 😂😂😂😂😂
@aaronb2181
@aaronb2181 5 ай бұрын
It's thrilling how blessed Levy has been with this content
@das_law5192
@das_law5192 5 ай бұрын
I lurk where I please lol. Awesome channel just found it and got me a new game to enjoy
@fanatic52s
@fanatic52s 5 ай бұрын
Feels like Kramnik is preparing the launching of a new chess platform
@andrewmaung9297
@andrewmaung9297 5 ай бұрын
I dont think kramink can handle the fact that there are people way more better than him
@commentwarrior
@commentwarrior 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is a world chess champion bro. He did beat the legendary Garry Kasparow.
@andrewolivetreemixing
@andrewolivetreemixing 5 ай бұрын
@@commentwarriormaybe that’s the reason, he doesn’t believe chess proficiency can decline with age, so assumes everyone must be cheating.
@commentwarrior
@commentwarrior 5 ай бұрын
@@andrewolivetreemixing Just no
@HaydenNK3
@HaydenNK3 5 ай бұрын
@@commentwarrior just yes
@commentwarrior
@commentwarrior 5 ай бұрын
@@HaydenNK3 what yes? That Kramnik doesn't know the human brain degenerates as it gets older? Please don't think with emotions. Just because a person accuses your idol, this person doesn't know that 1+1 equals 2? Try to be realistic dear friend!
@Nick-ih3xg
@Nick-ih3xg 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik's going off the deep end.
@kimyunmi452
@kimyunmi452 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is envious of hikaru. He think why am I the 14th world champion living poorly in cramped apartment and hikaru is getting richer and richer lately.
@Ovyron
@Ovyron 5 ай бұрын
Just don't tell Kramnika about the birthday paradox, where if you get a small group of people it's more likely that they share a birthday than not. It'd blow his mind!
@GaBeKool
@GaBeKool 5 ай бұрын
I‘m one of these ppl just watching and actually rly rarely comment, but just wanted to say i love your statement u did here. It‘s true, it‘s the internet and if u give the trolls on the internet a chance to contact and insult u, u shouldn‘t cry abt it and sue platforms. Keep ur work up, i love your content, also your chess news!
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
+1
@ihtashamafzal5678
@ihtashamafzal5678 5 ай бұрын
+1
@HaydenNK3
@HaydenNK3 5 ай бұрын
+1
@mikebarushok5361
@mikebarushok5361 5 ай бұрын
+1
@Bukakanga
@Bukakanga 5 ай бұрын
Ok, wild theory - Kramnik tried alcoholism for the first time in his life?
@victorcarrillo7618
@victorcarrillo7618 5 ай бұрын
I'm honestly kind of curious as to how far Kramnik will shift the goalposts next
@muhakmalulimanl9103
@muhakmalulimanl9103 5 ай бұрын
I think, with the way things are now, Kramnik might sue you for 'damaging' his image.
@asrenypyatko
@asrenypyatko 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik pulling off full-fledged Bobby Fisher
@jackherrmann586
@jackherrmann586 5 ай бұрын
Levi, why did you do that.
@TristanWarneke
@TristanWarneke 5 ай бұрын
10:02 Oooh, you created a wicked paradox there! If someone comments to say thanks, then suddenly it wasn't meant for them.
@GandoTheBard
@GandoTheBard 5 ай бұрын
Tempest in a teapot.
@keithwald5349
@keithwald5349 5 ай бұрын
Which once again proves my theory: Intelligence in chess is in no way an indicator of general intelligence.
@andyyang3029
@andyyang3029 5 ай бұрын
That's not your theory it's just accepted in general
@HaydenNK3
@HaydenNK3 5 ай бұрын
Because to me, it's not really like you need to be "intelligent" to play chess. After all, AI are not intelligent per se and they are far better than us. It's way more about pattern recognition, memory, time management, and focus than anything else.
@looijmansje
@looijmansje 5 ай бұрын
​@@HaydenNK3General intelligence isn't really a thing either. You can be academically intelligent, but not socially intelligent. You can fail all your classes, but be a very smart football player. Etc etc
@UOUPv2
@UOUPv2 5 ай бұрын
​@@andyyang3029in general? No way. Every non chess player equates chess skill with high intelligence.
@scubasteve6175
@scubasteve6175 5 ай бұрын
@@HaydenNK3those things you mentioned at the end are all pretty significantly indicative of someone's intelligence. It is not a coincidence that chess masters are typically 150 iq+
@Epidombe
@Epidombe 5 ай бұрын
Its crazy how some people are trying to grow chess and reach the younger generations. But then theres people like this who really just mud things down
@drememe6185
@drememe6185 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik is going down the Fischer path, he gotta turn back
@bikifaf1832
@bikifaf1832 5 ай бұрын
Im just lurking bro. Enjoying every video. Tanx bru xxx
@Day-wm7nn
@Day-wm7nn 5 ай бұрын
Kramnik thought Hikaru was Hans, but now he is the one going full Hans mode
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