Kratom: The Scapegoat For Self-Inflicted Harm?

In episode 1075, Alex Karp from Etha Botanicals, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about everything you need to know about Kratom from dosages to effects to why it has a bad reputation.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - How to Grow Kratom Plant
1:33 - Is Kratom Safe
4:50 - Is Kratom Addictive
7:08 - How to Use Kratom Safely
17:24 - What to Look for in a Kratom Product
19:00 - How Does Kratom Affect People Differently
24:12 - Kratom Dependency
27:35 - Is Kratom Addictive
35:15 - Is Kratom Dangerous
42:50 - Is Kratom Going to Be Banned
52:24 - Responsibility of the User
1:00:16 - What are the main positives of Kratom?
1:02:50 - What is Kava
1:06:00 - Is Kava Safe
1:07:58 - Overdosing on Kava
1:19:27 - Kratom Info is Restricted online
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[@KratomStories]

Kratom changed my life! I was in pain management for 9 years for my degenerative disc disease in my neck and back. My doctor abandoned me out of the blue through no fault of my own. The docs are scared to prescribe. Thank god I found your brother's documentary, A Leaf of Faith. I had never heard of Kratom before, so that film kicked off my journey to much better pain relief with just a plant. It's been five years of daily use and I'm just blown away that I went from lots of pharma meds to a tea. Thank you for this great interview filled with so much valuable information. I interviewed Alex for my Kratom Stories podcast a few months ago. I would love to have you guys on it too. 🍃💚💪 -Madalyn

[@theantiqueactionfigure]

Hands down the absolutely most detailed, informative discussion of kratom I have ever heard.

[@1DEADBEEF1]

Did they mention the sky high prolactin levels?? Feeling like dogshit when the half life is over? E d.?

[@teddygrammatonbmx2226]

I work at a Kratom Bar and it’s really just a normal thing, everyone should know their limit and kratom.

[@joshuacrow9495]

I got off benzo’s and oxy with kratom. Suboxone didn’t do it but kratom did. Something that works you know the FDA will try to make illegal.

[@stunnaman9]

Interesting. I'm on suboxone now for the same thing and wanna get off it. I've been on subs for over 3 years now..

[@A0ookay]

I have a severe knee injury, and I could not work without kratom. I am not a drug addict and i don't even drink alcohol or smoke. I went from barely able to walk without prescription opioids to doing martial arts and working out daily. Im far healthier, not laying around depressed and getting knee replacement at 40. Admittedly I do go into withdrawal when I go without it. For me it's about harm reduction, longevity and quality of life.

[@arthurfonzarelli9828]

I don't drink alcohol, eat almost no sugar and use zero tobacco products. I use kratom multiple times daily and am open about it because it makes me a more calm husband, more friendly neighbor, more outgoing worker and overall better person.

[@bllooop7247]

What do you do for dosing daily curious?

[@shuaalim]

Any addiction can be justified one way or another.

[@richied334]

I'm on Suboxone for kratom withdrawals. It's no different than pain pills when you're an addict. Best of luck to you

[@bigzachful]

@@richied334 Or do you just like being on the suboxine program..? Shouldn’t need suboxine for Kratom Gotta get the pharmaceutical industry paid one way or another

[@birdistheword1327]

Very happy for you. Dont listen to the negative comments here, if they had actually really taken suboxone or opiods they'd y'know this doesn't have the insanely bad withdrawals and is more natural. More power to you!

[@arthurfonzarelli9828]

I've heard somebody describe kratom this way and I think it's perfect. You can't tell if I've or anyone has taken kratom as they Don't act silly or impaired. But you do notice when someone hasn't taken it if that makes sense as they're usually not as friendly talkative or outgoing

[@mr_yoru5834]

Kratom is illegal where I live. One of only 6 states that ban it. I never really considered it might be useful for athletes until watching this. Adam seems like such a nice guy. I hate hearing about his continued struggles with addiction.

[@stunnaman9]

Same in my state

[@johnbonacci128]

Great job on the positive energy and reconfiguration of words love it

[@wurmzzlife]

I've lived w Rheumatoid Arthritis since age 21 and Lupus at age 30, now 35. Was on&off script painkillers in my 20s. Damn near destroyed me & ruined my life. Found kratom in 2019 and my life has never been better. 6-7g a day is all i need to keep pain levels tolerable. I'm anle to work a physical full time job, bodybuilding, and still dabble w powerlifting bc of kratom. My physical freedom is the utmost importance to me, and kratom has been one of the saviors to help me keep that. It also helps w anxiety &ptsd episodes. I no longer take medications for those either. I've gone up&down on dosages over the years, but found that 7g tops a day is perfect for me. Which isn't much at all lol. Thank you guys for doing this episode, means a lot to the people like me whose life is wonderful bc of this plant❤

[@alvis4758]

Kratom can also cause extreme weight loss over time. It is really hard to gain back to a normal weight. Especially if your going through wd.

[@njr819]

In my experience, daily use sometimes twice daily, led to gut issues and dehydration issues, which led to some gnarly oral hygiene issues. It can be a great, healthy game changer to get off opiates, but I think just switching it out for them isn’t necessarily totally fine.

[@northtacomaninja]

Thank you for this pod. It needed to be talked about. I use kratom and use it three times a day. I hurt my knee and it's helped alot

[@JonDeth]

*If dry scooping huge doses of high potency Kratom were potentially fatal, I would have died a loooooong time ago!* There's probably 3 or 4 times a month I have a dose take me to what is undoubtedly equivalent to the high associated with a fatal dose of prescription opiates, but was never feeling the sense and fear of "I need to call an ambulance" or "I better go to the ER!" *I would absolutely be dead if this shit could kill you, let's put it that way.* I've taken opiates as prescribed and still ended up high as a kite off of it to the point of being disoriented to relate the 2 sources as producing these equivalents to one another. *IMO, the primary risk to Kratom is forming a bad habit in usage.* There's use, there's habitual use *and then there's bad habit.* Regardless of why you take it, we ultimately want to know health risks and mortality risks. Anyway, my ultimate personal conclusion is having made my own Kratom concentrate, the buzz actually cleans up tremendously and that congested, sludgy feel to a big dose of potent leaves is completely eliminated. It in fact feels like a completely different substance with a brilliant euphoria and without any disorientation. *I don't believe Kratom has any potential fatality risks without a serious preexisting condition or mixing it with substances known to have fatality risks.*

[@richardweinsteiger1285]

I'm sure big pharma is behind all the scare tactics. They have to stomp out competition. Competition being natural remedies

[@brcage]

So true... ive eaten 26 grams in 2 hours. Nothing happened other than serious nausea. Which is good, because Krat is self limiting.

[@JonDeth]

@@brcage at that dosage, you were definitely as high as it can possibly get you and for a really long time lol! I've done that much in a day aside from doses where you're as high as it can possibly get you and contrary to various debates, it can definitely get you as high as a huge recreational dose of prescription opiates, but you can also sense your vitals and they're fine. *From my own firsthand experiences, if you've overdosed on a substance that is potentially lethal, it's also typical that you can feel something is dangerously wrong from your own vitals, and even on my own monster doses of Kratom compared to your own, it has never caused that.* When the hospital overdosed me on Norco and Ambien though, that was a vicious and horrible experience! It was also relative to an experience where I had alcohol poisoning and in both examples, you're mentally obliterated but can still sense your body is in physical danger. I was fully functional, lucid and wasn't even slurring, but the alcohol was enough to actually get me admitted in critical condition. *I've never had even a vaguely similar reaction and sense with Kratom.*

[@nolanwardy7409]

I appreciate this comment. And I agree. I’d be interested to compare your dosing to mine at my most aggressive. Would you share?

[@jablowme1850]

Kratom does give you withdrawals . It helped me get off opiates, but it definitely has very similar withdrawals. Just not as intense. Your eyes are going to water going from between hot and cold and trying to fall asleep. You’ll definitely have restless legs syndrome and just aching in your bones. last 2 to 3 days but they say it’s similar to caffeine. I called bullshit and I’m an advocate for it.

[@Chatnoirfantastique]

I used kratom when i quit opioids but when i stopped kratom i got withdrawals from it... It wasnt that bad as subutex or oxys but still got effects like sweating, muscle tiredness, diarrhea..

[@Warriorsoull]

I don't consume extracts. I feel that those are what has predominantly given Kratom a bad rap. I am an Army veteran who consumes whole leaf kratom powder in order to help ease some of my chronic pain. I definitely believe stress causes pain to worsen, and that their is in fact a mind-body connection to chronic pain. I agree that you should attempt to incorporate exercise, breathwork, and meditation especially after you have consumed kratom and gotten pain levels to more manageable levels.

[@CrazedCorgi]

I have the same back issues as this guy. Most mornings, my disc causes low-level pain and builds up. 1 or 2 Kratom capsules is all I need in the morning for the whole day. Some days I don't need it at all. I'm doing lots of rotation workouts, weighted and not; inversion table, squats and RDL'S. Back is getting better.

[@bigzachful]

Inversion table, stretching, hot yoga, sauna, and weightlifting will save you from the pain and bring the relief

[@brandonr737]

How does Kratom effect testosterone and other hormones? I drink a lot of crushed leaf tea (not powder or extracts) and have been consuming it for the last couple years. All seems well while doing many other holistic heal actions like nutrition, lifting, running, supplementation, grounding, sunlight, sauna, etc. Curious to know all your opinions and experiences!

[@nolanwardy7409]

I take it daily. For me it does lower my testosterone, if I take it multiple times a day. I’ve done repeated lab work and if I stick to a single dose in the morning very little affect. Anything that hits the MU receptor is going to have a downstream suppression of sex hormones, by way of LH/FSH suppression. However, I’m 48 yo and live a similar lifestyle by the look of it, prioritizing all things you do; But I do also drink beer occasionally. I can also easily tank my testosterone simply by over training. So I’m sure age and resilience plays a role. Just my .02.

[@osufan2040]

Hey Mark, where do you get the kava shots?

[@KenoDeFeyter]

Used Kratom and got a lot of stomach discomfort, also had a bit of upset stomach before but is this possibly normal?

[@rioraber8095]

I really like kratom, I live in Thailand and they sell it all over, I get the ground up leaves, really enjoy it but its definitly significantly liver toxic, even at a single dose of 5 grams. I've done bloodwork a few weeks after coming off lower dose oral steroids cycle, then again a few weeks later expecting improvement, but I used kratom once a few days before testing liver enzymes again, and my liver enzymes were significantly worse

[@l.robertvandyke4398]

I used it yesterday and feel like I have a crappy hangover today.

[@Holio88]

That means you took to much. Take less next time. Kratom is unlike anything else. Less is more with kratom.

[@richied334]

​@@Holio88sorry but eventually you build a tolerance. If you're using it for pain, using the same dose eventually won't work. Also if you're an addict you'll just chase a high

[@bWalrus7]

The only time kratom usage was bad for me was when I was being an idiot and taking 10g per day. Eventually led to an appendectomy via severe constipation. I still use it, but no more than 4-5g in a day and almost never on consecutive days. Even with the appendectomy the benefits still outweigh the negatives.

[@chiledoug]

I KNOW THAT KRATOM IS USED FOR OPIATE ADDICTION BUT I FIND IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND,,,,,HAD MORE PROBLEMS WITH KRATON THAT I HAVE HAD WITH OPIATES

[@GHOST86312]

Discount code for the Etha Website anyone?

[@mattdemars3475]

I want to buy mind bullet but can't ship to wisconsin 😕

[@the_spiritual_hulk7449]

I found my best benefits with kratom, and I have been taking kratom ever since 2018 when I had patellar tendonitis in both knees, I found that my sweet spot for dosing kratom is the microdosing throughout the day. I found early on that if I took a larger dose I would get that euphoric effect and being an addict that kind of scared me but I also liked how it relieves my anxiety and the pain from my patellar tendonitis. So for the past 4 years or so I have been microdosing it every day where I take about half a gram every 1 1/2 to 3 hours can I find out with that dosing protocol I don't get to euphoric effect so I'm not trying to chase a feeling but it's just enough to calm me down and mellow out my extremely hyper sensory processing (disorder)

[@wurmzzlife]

Ayyeee I do micro doses too! 4 caps upon waking then 1 cap at a time throughout the day. If i do 2 caps at once, i feel spacy lol. Found smaller doses work way better 🙌

[@Ethnic_Blur]

Who is the guest? If he's the owner of the company or selling the platoon of kratom/kava in front of him then that is an insane bias for a "truth about kratom" episode. I have used it before and will use it in the future, it just seems like a lot of the negatives are being heavily downplayed to move product. Edit: looking into it he is the fouder of ETHA herbals. You guys should have someone who has been addicted on to explain how it started, or people who are in the middle ground to be more neutral on pros and cons.

[@charleswalton5132]

Been using it daily for 2 years, about 1/2 oz daily with no problems but I have noticed that at night after around 8-10 hours from my last dose I get pretty hot even though the room is cool. That’s the only side effects I have noticed.

[@wurmzzlife]

I been a daily user for 5 years. I do 7g a day tops. I go around 12 hrs during the night w out it. I sweat...a lot 😂 also tend to get twitchy. Normal withdrawals. Just like how nicotine and caffeine have unpleasant ones, kratom does too. Unfortunately.

[@drip369]

I've heard the word thrown around on these podcasts but I still have no idea what it is. Is it some sort of pain relief

[@chiledoug]

I AM 73 YRS OLD I AM ADDICTED BUT NO PROBLEMS OTHER THAN THE ADDICTION I DO NOT CARE

[@richied334]

If youre an addict like me, dont take it. Im on suboxone for kratom. Saying it's addictive like food or sex can be is not true

[@richied334]

Also kratom caused my blood pressure to drop and it's was pure from a well known company

[@brcage]

Kratom is the safest buzz you can get... ive used it every day for 6 months and quit instantly, zero addiction...

[@Chatnoirfantastique]

I stopped using opioids with kratom but i had withdrawals fromkratomwhen i stopped it..

[@brcage]

@@Chatnoirfantastique yeah, such a bad headache... but you survived lol Btw.. we already med is paying people to spam comments w lies, so you can save it g

[@Holio88]

@@brcageyou obviously know nothing about kratom. Kratom withdrawal sucks balls, lol. Been using daily for 11 years and stopping for a couple days is hell on earth.

[@zackevert5788]

Major thing with kratom for me is I get terrible bowel movement. Constipated and just way off from normal. Love the way it makes me feel but I have to take a couple weeks off if more than 3 g per day.

[@Posibrian]

Supplement with Magnesium and you’ll be fine. Drink a lot of water also.

[@chiledoug]

OVERDOSE ON KRATOM IS JUST THROWING

[@charleswalton5132]

How much nutmeg do you need to trip?😂

[@scotlynhatt]

Low dose Kratom made my mind dull. I have opted for an Alpha GPC/Lions Mane combo for improving my flow state.

[@bmx4ever20]

So your taking alpha gpc/lions Maine and cock? I bet you stay full too

[@arthurfonzarelli9828]

The best part about kratom is it has a ceiling effect meaning once you get to a certain level you can't really go beyond that which makes it more or less harmless especially when it comes to stuff like overdosing or getting impaired at a dangerous level. This is why less is more with kratom. I take the same amount today that I did when I started in 2016 which is about 2 g per serving if I do four grams or more I get tired and feel kind of lazy. I use it as a stimulant and replacement of stuff like coffee

[@tdc720]

Doesn't kratom lower testosterone?

[@darrenfenley2552]

No, but I'm pretty sure the opiate mechanism causes side effects that mimic low T (erectile disfunction)

[@kylekermgard]

Drugs are bad mmkay

[@thateabishhh]

I was addicted to FDA approved pain pills, benzos and muscle relaxers for 11 years straight. I got fired from chronic pain management in April 2019. After that, I went to the streets and started doing cocaine while I was searching for a new pain management doctor. In June 2019, whilst in cocaine withdrawal, I watched that documentary “A Leaf of Faith.” My journey with Kratom began the very next day. Kratom shut that “I need one more snort, one more pill, one more escape” noise off in my brain. It allowed me to work on my whys of addiction. I have not been back to pain management in 5 years. I am a functioning member of society again. I am a thriving mother again. I am no longer a burden to my kids. I will be forever grateful and thankful that I accidentally found Kratom. I now pass on my journey, wisdom and science to help those struggling with addiction, chronic pain, anxiety and depression. Yours truly, Kratom advocate/activist from Colorado est. 2019.

[@shuaalim]

Hour and a half of bs sugar coating and pink painting an Addictive Drug.

[@erikbearsfan]

This guys full of it. Kratom is very addictive and gives you withdrawal like heroin. No point in finishing the video if he’s going to bend the truth. I like kratom btw.

[@jetter820]

Hippy ass commercial for a product....

[@ezra420420]

wrong on this one

[@bmx4ever20]

Let’s gooo