What If Len Bias Didn't Die?

Two days after being drafted by the Boston Celtics in the 1986 NBA Draft, Len Bias was pronounced dead from a heart attack due to a apparent cocaine overdose. He was said to be just as talented as Michael Jordan and some say he would have gone down as Michael Jordans greatest rival. Today we look at what would happen if Len Bias never passed away.
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[@KrispyFlakesNBA]

R.I.P 30 years ago today was when Len Bias passed away.

[@stevebartman7557]

who cares. he was a bust

[@wwenetwork5]

+Steve Bartman it's not about the basketball. He was an amazing man.

[@stevebartman7557]

Hypnotic K. Me and Len Bias have the same career stats in the NBA. But I'm still alive. Me > Bias

[@5mombo]

Steve, go fuck yourself.

[@stevebartman7557]

Bruce Wilkins That doesn't change the fact Bias was a bust.

[@WaveManMike]

Fun fact: Len was my moms first cousin. She told me he was really fun to be around and was a big jokester. R.I.P

[@justinnixon6946]

Wave Man Mike really

[@firefalco_]

Wave Man Mike Then He's Your 2nd Uncle. But, It's Sad That He Passed Away.

[@mittendemon4493]

Fire Falco nigga what thats his second cousin

[@KrispyFlakesNBA]

Thought this video deserved a nice edited beginning! Hope you all enjoyed it. Also I think at some point I said this happened in 1984? I meant 1986! Please don't roast me....

[@Danny-ds5im]

Len bias would've been a great player rip Len bias

[@yourcl]

it wasn't in 1984. this guy knows nothing... :D

[@morebxdger5484]

It was in 86

[@mellowhype1406]

Nice video Krispy. Keep up the good work!

[@ncgriffin3557]

If Bias had lived Larry Bird was going to retire sooner www.celticslife.com/2012/02/larry-bird-says-he-would-have-retired.html

[@tubewatcher38]

Interesting question. Having Bias from '86 on would have given the Celtics tremendous versatility & strength for years to come & given everyone more rest & healthier bodies. Would have only needed minor additions to keep the dynasty rolling for another decade. With Reggie Lewis there too, they would have continued the greatness well into the mid-late 90's.

[@checkmate9111]

I was at MD during the Bias years. He was incredible. I wasn’t a Boston fan and upset he went there because I knew it was an easy 3-4 more world titles. He was a beast. MJ’s true rival. Sad to not see what should have been.

[@sweetmapleleafs]

Len Bias was to wear #30 for the Celtics. Had he lived, the Lakers lose the 1987 Finals in 6 games, like the Celtics did without Bias. The Bad Boys Pistons dont exist, and the Celtics would have eaten in to the Bulls' first 3peat run. But no, instead that 131-92 game 6 blowout of the Lakers came 22yrs after they drafted Len Bias at pick #2.

[@alexp2111]

This was really cool. I've always wondered how the Celtics would've done in the 90s with Bias and Reggie Lewis leading the team if they hadn't both passed away. RIP

[@cfoster81]

If Lenny didn't pass away, he and Michael Jordan would have been on the 1992 "Dream Team" and shared an Olympic Gold Medal

[@suiken3149]

Bias' jersey is #30, not #34! #34 was his college #, but #30 was his official # had he played. You forgot to put Reggie Lewis. Bias-Lewis duo would have been a lethal combo in the 90's had both of them lived.

[@uncontrolledsubstance910]

FACTs

[@m.j.c.6969]

I noticed that too. This thing is a mess.

[@donovanmakesmusic]

Len Bias was a great guy who could've been a force in the NBA. R.I.P Len Bias

[@thomasklein9740]

Yes, because NBA 2k is very accurate in everything that it does.

[@KushaalP]

RIgggghhttttt.......

[@kingfewcha1749]

Did you guys peep the 81-1 record ?

[@SuperShawnWalker]

The Celtics were defending champs when they drafted him

[@kingfewcha1749]

+SuperShawnWalker yeah still hard to do in 2k though

[@SuperShawnWalker]

+King Fewcha True, True

[@danielyankun3605]

the 86 Celtics are easily head and shoulders above every team ever

[@whodey_alldey4005]

+Daniel Yankun not the 86-87 Lakers

[@HiMarsPewPew]

What could have been! RIP Len Bias

[@Conor.weekss]

I haven't watched the video yet but my answer is if he didn't die he would be ALIVE

[@coachleoersando447]

W

[@jaloawesome2323]

W

[@iinasii2416]

W

[@sethalbert8633]

W

[@LucasRodrigues-rx6ui]

W

[@Crystar500]

You should look up Taj McDavid if you're interested in the Len Bias story. He was a high school baller who averaged a double double (26 points, 12 boards) and declared for the 1996 draft. Nobody ever heard of him, though, so he went undrafted and sort of disappeared after the draft. Turns out he's still alive, at least. Bleacher Report did a story on him a while ago. Some people thought he would've been really good in the NBA.

[@kndall8591]

Cliff Alexander.

[@kndall8591]

Cliff Alexander is a more recent story similar to this. Surrounded with hype, and not even drafted.

[@miracle4890]

Am from Maryland and its sad watching old videos of him , he could have became the hometown hero .....

[@NazarethShirley.]

how can anyone dislike this

[@haykyengibaryan2783]

Great video man. Very sad. This guy was expected to be the next Michael Jordan. R.I.P.

[@crashzila]

the next michael Jordan? he was supposed to be his rival for years as they were drafted around the same time and played college against each other.

[@kadenascend6597]

The next Mike? Mike was in his 2nd year when he was drafted

[@rawkaveli163]

Fucking dumbass.

[@Modubz]

+kaden williams Michael was 3rd

[@lebrunjemz1065]

The next Michael Jordan LMAO

[@cjgaming2200]

I've been watching u since 10k hahah can't wait to say that when u hit 100k, or even higher! Keep up the good work man, love ur content

[@JEWELSX21]

Lol +KrispyFlakes bruh your commentary is energetic and hilarious I like your video on the Len bias and Celtics thing and I laughed when you said the dude Len bias is a beast out there

[@Aceboogie2024]

great vid do more of these

[@gengar464]

need to do if the bad boys pistons played today

[@moodiimargiela5215]

whole lotta fines

[@Blxckstar]

Fines homie

[@nicholaspolen3418]

They would lose to the Warriors

[@nikko6883]

Tides US lmao, Curry's a pussy, stop band waggoning

[@roberteugene7295]

OK, Krispyflakes, there's a better way to get Len Bias into the game, at least it's more realistic. You rotate Bias in at both forward positions, maintaining the regular starting lineup: Ainge and DJ as the guards, Larry Legend at the 3, McHale at the power forward, and Parrish at center. Remember, that '85-86 Celtics team had a damn good bench, too: Jerry Sichting at guard, Scott Wedman relieving the wings, and Bill Walton at center and sometimes relieving McHale. Adjusting the roster, the bench rotation now uses Wedman primarily at the guards, Bias at both forwards, and Walton at center. That's more realistic. But let's do something even more realistic. Let's put him on the '86-87 Celtics. My contention (the part that actually matters) is what his worth to the team would've been. This Celtics team won 59 games, and was pretty banged up entering the playoffs, racked with injuries. Wedman went down early in the season and never returned. Walton had his usual injury riddled season and played only 10 games. Ainge injured his ankle late in the season, but continued to play on it. Parrish had a foot injury that ailed him late in the season. Most worrisome was McHale, with a late season foot injury that he came back too soon from and reinjured it (this shortened his career, and affected his play for the remainder of it, and he still limps on it to this day). In effect, he played the entire playoffs on one foot. Had Bias lived and (given his work ethic and the mentors he had-Bird, McHale, Parrish, Ainge, and DJ, future coaches all-there's every reason to believe he would have) developed reasonably quickly, the Celtics could well have been champions that season. Without Bias, this team bounced Jordan's Bulls in 3 straight, beat out the Bucks and Pistons (2 tough teams) in 7 games each, then stretched Magic Johnson's Lakers to six games (could easily have been 7) in this condition. Now, add Bias. My contention here is that McHale wouldn't have returned so soon and could have let that foot (hairline fracture of the navicular bone, which split wide open in the middle of the playoffs) heal, while Bias plays in his place; meaning McHale comes back healthy and rested (let that sink in for a minute!) for the playoffs and Bias has gained valuable experience. This means that Boston bounces the Bulls in 3, but it's probable that the Celtics defeat the Bucks in 4 straight and the Pistons in fewer than 7 games. This would've been a fresher Celtics team facing the Lakers. The Celtics also would've had a better bench rotation than they actually had. No Darren Daye, no Fred Roberts. Bias would've been coming off the bench to relieve both Bird and McHale, with McHale taking some minutes relieving Parrish, along with the injured Walton and Greg Kite. Sichting would still have been the primary sub at guard. Perhaps, given Bias' athleticism, he could even have been part of an odd lineup replacing Ainge, with Bias guarding Magic while DJ defended Byron Scott. Can you grasp what this would've meant? With a banged up starting lineup and virtually no bench, these Celtics came within a fumbled rebound of stretching these Lakers to 7 games. With Bias to keep Bird and McHale fresh (and indirectly help the situation at center and perhaps even at guard), this Celtics team could well have taken the championship that season by taking game 4 hands down and extending the lead in the first half of game 6 while avoiding that disaster of a third quarter. The next season, the Celtics drafted Reggie Lewis, another budding star, and he and Bias would have been the nucleus of a great bench for a couple of years. The Celtics could have well won another title the next season, with Bias and Lewis replacing the greats in later years as they wound down their careers, and with future additions like Dee Brown, the Celtics would have at least been contenders for most of the '90's.

[@kentjones1902]

Rip Len Bias, It seemed like this was set up, someone in his circle was jealous.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

That would be phuqing horrible if true.

[@LeighMet]

Larry Bird has said that had Bias not died he would have retired after the 1988-89 season.

[@kean1opez]

Cool you actually took my suggestion from a while ago!

[@avantegraham1635]

glad u did this one

[@deshawngreen2426]

U should do a whole series about him

[@uncontrolledsubstance910]

Bias/Wilkins matchups would've been some epic classic highlight filled games, even Bias/Kemp matchups in the early 90s would've been crazy to see

[@kennymcpoormic5269]

Really nice video well made intro

[@PaulGreen11]

I was riding a public bus through the U of Maryland campus at College Park when someone said Len Bias was dead. If he had lived, Boston had an answer for James Worthy and the Celtics win at least one more ring.

[@Boden32]

wow, 1 dislike? How can you be that cruel man? #Respect to Krispy

[@ucouco78]

Imagine a squad with Bird,Mchale,parish,Lewis and Bias.

[@uncontrolledsubstance910]

FYI...Len Bias number for the Celtics was gonna be 30...not 34

[@marvelouscavalier9495]

I suggested this on Mike Korzemba's Channel.

[@samtitus997]

When lebron was drafted people would have been saying "he's the new Len bias!!!"

[@MrWill1729]

Lakers thought Kwame brown would have been the next Shaquille O'neal. Stop asking what ifs

[@danielyankun3605]

wtf? everyone knew he was a bust but the wizards. the lakers got paid to take Kwame he was so bad

[@joekoe97]

I just noticed at 6:55 Scotty Pippen had a 5 for 5 game, which hasn't even happened 20 times in the NBA's recorded history.

[@vincentwhitaker5757]

+daego 60707 don't try to insult someone when you have no idea what you are talking about, a five for five is when you have at least 5 in every stat.

[@thecop-arazzi653]

Are you trying to say quintuple, quintuple but just don't know how? A five for five really. Then in a triple double 2 for three. It's you who doesn't know what the fuck their saying. So next time just keep your mouth shut, u won't look as stupid

[@knickstape2559]

you obviously dont know what a 5 for 5 is in basketball you sound like a 2000s baby thats when you have at least 5 points 5 rebounds 5 assists 5 steals 5 blocks sounds easy but how many players you think can actually do this think for a sec almost impossible

[@lj4078]

+knickstape porz he doesn't understand what a 5 by 5 is... Wow that's pathetic

[@kingdrakit378]

That's a 5 BY 5, not 5 for 5

[@zinjgreen3398]

He may become one of the best NBA players, but not a good referee cause he's Bias..

[@tawfiqmohammad9420]

.... *sighs*

[@vl3vnz00m5]

L

[@grownupcaillou2685]

L

[@plxya3857]

L

[@danielyankun3605]

+-Notorious-Lyrics- but you wouldn't care if he was alive. why do people treat the dead better than those who are alive?

[@Dontdoittoyoself]

Len Bian had a contract with Reebok. He was considered a bigger Jordan coming out of college.

[@jadrianbrown3149]

think that makes me mad is that I wish we knew what would actually happen if he was alive but we leave it up to 2k

[@Jimmy-rs8gg]

even tho I am a bulls fan I would of liked to see this young man play against MJ

[@Jit_from_Florida]

what if Ben Wilson never died

[@lj4078]

True but we wouldn't know what team

[@Jit_from_Florida]

+Kvng.LJ the team that had the first pick in 86

[@lj4078]

+franny boio i'm talking about Ben Wilson

[@Jit_from_Florida]

+Kvng.LJ wasn't he a senior in 85 or 84

[@lj4078]

+franny boio ya but we can't really say for sure where he would go, because he never played in college and nba draft picks are unpredictable

[@leepreston9181]

How did you get the spelling of his name correctly I couldn't do it please respond.

[@mattkohm7227]

Do a league of every franchise's best team of all time

[@brycebaldree8]

I don't know how you only have 24k subs krispy

[@jlj6586]

i do because he sucks

[@brycebaldree8]

and you swallow

[@jlj6586]

fuck you

[@brycebaldree8]

+jarvy james ohhhh what a burn

[@jesusportillo2323]

Bro the record was 81-1 holy shit

[@JJWilliams910]

Amare Stoudemire in his prime was a poor mans Len Bias

[@chachee15]

how did you get Bias? Did you create him? Is there a code to get other teams and players? I want to get Charles Barkley and Reggie Miller

[@AquaUSO]

Great video dude. Who knows though, maybe he could of been a great. Not sure Bias sneakers sound better than Jordan's tho 😜

[@squashua7222]

If he never died, the Warriors never beat the record.

[@joeneway]

Shouldve used a better Bulls team,you got to add Bias to a championship team but didnt have him play a championship team,use one of Jordans first 3 championship teams,the ones with Rodman were just too sick to me,still good to see Bias getting love some 30 years later,keep up the vids Detroit-Vs-Everybody!!!!

[@jordankendall2705]

#feartheturtle rip Len would have been MJ

[@yannickdebarros8285]

Yeah, he was Maryland boy just like me :/

[@WaveManMike]

jordan kendall He beating Jordan 1 on 1

[@justinsmith1994]

Am I the only one that notices the 81-1 record for the regular season?

[@2bteachable2]

Basically almost everyone alive (and old enough) living in Maryland in 1986 remembers the death of Len Bias. I tell people that he was the greatest men’s basketball player ever, and if he lived, you would understand why I stand by that statement. I wasn’t a Boston Celtics fan, but when they drafted Len, I knew they would be unbeatable for years to come. They Most of the time, would have played 4 on 5 offense. Dennis Johnson would work the point with, Parish, McHale, and Bias as the main players. Larry Bird could hand out on the wing and talk trash to the opposing bench. I can hear him saying, “You know, if they don’t score, with three seconds left, they will pass me the ball and I’ll shoot a three in your face . Then we’ll go on defense, stop you from scoring, and do it all over again.” Losing Bias was a big loss for everyone.

[@husseinalhadi5471]

I truly believe the Celtics would have won in 87 & 88 and 3 peated. Bird won his MVp's 84-86. would the 87 and 88 Bias Celtics have won 70+ games Bird would have been MVP 5 times in a row. James Worthy (who was a fantastic forward) career would be looked at quite differently. Worthy was the number 1 draft pick, added to a championship team and would only have 1 ring. Would Worthy have been traded in 88? How would the Lakers been able to compete with the Celtics. Bird and Mchale would have been healthier and less injuries. The Bias Celtics could have taken away 1-2 rings away from Jordan. the 91 Celtics Lewis Bias, Bird, Parish, Mchale off the bench . Would Bias have had Pippen's spot on the 92 Dream Team. Would love to see Bias go up against Rodman and Pippen in his prime, especially with BIrd, just constantly feeding him alley-oop passes, The Celtics would have 2+ more rings possibly 3-4 with Bias.

[@TommyB444]

Make a roster with Len bias on the Celtics please I been looking for a roster everywhere

[@boostmymint]

Air Lens sound pretty lit

[@romeoalpha68]

The NBA was so great then . Bias would have made great games even greater . Imagine the different moves teams would have made . I see teams like the Pistons making trades to better themselves . The Eastern Conference was already a beast . Boston, Detroit , Chicago , Philadelphia , Milwaukee , New York , Cleveland and Atlanta all would have been better . Great Competition makes rivals even better . It would have been great to see .

[@ncsidhu]

Can u create a roster with len bias?

[@tonydegregorio4895]

Pretty cool video. Jordan will always be that cat tho.

[@reidjohnson9502]

How do you record your videos?

[@dawnburdi3612]

This is not far off. There weren't too many question marks with this kid bias. He was very very special, he was hard working, humble. He would have been a perennial all star and world champion 3-5 times over. Just a tragedy, what a huge loss for that family. Then his baby brother Jay, a couple years later gets gunned down for some bullshit thing. And Jay was pretty good too. Not the same caliber as his brother, but few men ever have been. What a nice kid too seemed like. Rest in peace man.

[@codycrummett463]

Bias death shifted the landscape..... Bias was the bridge that we lost in the 90s

[@adrianhernandez1058]

Len bias would of been like a Dominique Wilkins type of player...

[@michaelcoffey498]

Len Bias would of been a top 10 player of all time and Michael and the NBA would of been even better as Michael would of had his rival. An Boston would of had its greatest player. r.i.p LB

[@remjem2445]

You should do what if west all stars and east all stars played on the same team agaisnt the nba

[@macman9689]

I cried when I heard the news

[@merlincalo6877]

KrispyFlakes Conspiracy theories to Len Bias death other than a drug overdose, like what? Btw, when I noticed that Len Bias wore the #34 like Paul Pierce. At first I thought maybe Pierce wore 34 in homage to Bias, yet you can see he actually wore 34 when he played for Kansas in College before he became a Celtic. Coincidence I guess. #34 89 Bulls vs 86 Celtics w/Len Bias thats a fun comparison, and a good what if? I don't think Bias was the complete player or level Jordan was. Yet he was a force, and freak athlete. I think he was in the mold, and level of Shawn Kemp. You put him on a loaded front court with the 86 Celtics, and that could have been a scary team with Bias, on a already loaded Celtics roster. R.I.P to Len Bias.

[@slayer3257]

what if d rose legs never died

[@amirknight7084]

rip len bias

[@DannyFrio]

that’s a funny accent ya got there boy

[@griffinfinch4289]

you should of put len bias at the 2 and larry at the 3 cause larry wasn't quick enough to keep up with those gaurds

[@danielyankun3605]

but he could outsmart them

[@MrTylerbrown76]

What was bias overall though?

[@CliqueProductions]

RIP

[@davidquintanilla3267]

Why did you say he could've been as good as MJ even thought Michael was drafted 2 years before

[@adamlinebarrier5757]

He meant as in a known by everyone type of way

[@zyxwut321]

It's the easiest thing in the world to say he was the "next Jordan" since there's obviously no way we could ever know or prove such a thing. He was obviously a great college player and a fascinating NBA prospect but it's a giant leap to say he could've had anywhere near the impact of Jordan. His greatest attribute was his athleticism but exactly how that would've translated into the pro game is hard to say. He wasn't a great outside shooter or free throw shooter and there was a lot of his game that was still raw. If he had lived it's also impossible to say how addicted he might've become to cocaine and other drugs like so many of his draft class and era. His story is the great unknown that you can project whatever you want unto it.

[@tyfrom4106]

like this beat

[@dorioncarter5829]

What is the background song

[@playspy7532]

rip Len Bias

[@alabamagreats8823]

Do a what if Lo Smith never got injured 1986-1987 Chicago Bulls position :PG

[@kingjordan7103]

did you said 30 point by scottie

[@alexvelez4777]

I feel guilty not hearin about this guy considering that I was raised/live in pg county currently 😂

[@biggucci8577]

R.I.P

[@devontepowell2255]

it didint take a few years for michael jordan to be great he made the all star his rookie year

[@claytyyfitness7753]

DO A WHAT IF ON "Benji Wilson" From Highschool in chicago!! #IL

[@munchymobrecords4927]

did they get to redraft someone or what after he died? did they just get no player or ?

[@tristanhovind601]

My dad played with Len bias at Maryland

[@blakhope]

a game likle that should let you have the multiple line ups and matchups and positions the 6th man could play....

[@brycewellman8670]

R.i.p

[@censari544]

my basketball coach claimed to know Len he said he died because of digesting cocaine

[@atmospheresg7866]

you should do a what if Lillard n kyrie changed teams

[@anibalcalix9190]

Yeah, 86' Celtics, all of them in their primes and a imaginary 96 rated Len Bias, no wonder they were going to win the series against an unpolished bulls team

[@malikaisantos7849]

R.I.P len bias

[@allansolorzano3851]

Oh great video Mike Korzemba! Oh wait it's Krispy Flakes looks like he can't be original....

[@AuraysTimelessChannel]

These 2 guys have completely different channels, apart from being based on the NBA. Stop hating.

[@allansolorzano3851]

+Morvicks this guy keeps taking his video ideas because he is trying to mooch off his success

[@HayastAnFedayi]

Celtics would have 20+ titles if Bias never died smh and then a few short years later Reggie Lewis passed away double smh it was a dark period as a Celtics fan, I was only 6y/o but remember Bias dying vividly with how upset my dad was, born and raised in the Boston area, in the musk of the old Boston Garden back when they had elevated trains outside the Garden gates....what could have been....Bulls wouldn't have won as many titles for sure and Celitcs would be even greater

[@AuraysTimelessChannel]

You are biased

[@cowpoke02]

nice and true it would of improved there defense taller and stronger ..

[@King_Ced]

len bias, bird & mchale would be a beast big 3 and probaly would give mj and the bulls and run for their $

[@Petar-pt4fc]

nice krispy

[@morebxdger5484]

Next time I do a class presentation on famous people I will do it on him

[@morebxdger5484]

#respect