Krist Novoselic and Kim Thayil on the Dark Side of Success

In this Clip, Soundgarden guitarist Kim Thayil and Nirvana bassist Kirst Novoselic reflect on the unexpected struggles they faced after achieving massive success in the early 90s.
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[@JimRyser]

“I wish I’d have enjoyed it then” Man I can relate to that with so many things in life! GenX here. ❤

[@PtotheMtotheK]

"I wish I had smiled more..." -- Solid advice right there for everyone listening to him.

[@nanashipersonne4151]

No, not generally. For some not for everyone.

[@nanashipersonne4151]

Because for some it just becomes toxic positivity.

[@PtotheMtotheK]

No, you just sound foolish. Enjoy wasting your life.

[@PtotheMtotheK]

Yes, generally. I don't care if you want to be wrong though. Go for it.

[@mikeyj990ify]

I can’t articulate how grateful i am for growing up in the 80s-90s. I was a sophmore/junior in high school when this scene blew us all away. I dropped anything and everything else i was into. This music came looking for me and when it found me i never let go. Was such a great time in music. We used to blow half our checks every week on cd’s. Was sick

[@dank.6942]

Sounds like I'm your age too. I was a sophomore when grunge erupted. Everything prior rocked out, but grunge basically eliminated all that had come before. I bought a 5 disc carousel CD changer and had Nevermind, Badmotorfinger, Ten, Dirt, and STP in there for what felt like forever, and just left it on shuffle. Then came all the "second" albums by those same bands! Rock heaven. Cheers

[@residentpotato6023]

And now music today is the equivalent of having to wear a special helmet so you don’t damage your born defective brain.

[@SuperJiggawhat]

Yeah, but now we're old haha

[@stephenbradford1971]

I come from England and I was lucky to see Nirvana live at Reading festival 1992 when I was 17 the 90s was such a buzz I despair at the state of the music business nowadays new bands don't get the funding anymore and the record companies take a far larger cut of their cash that it's killing the possibility for up and coming alternative bands because they can't make a decent wage and the only thing the industry is interested in is artists that make bubblegum pop that sells, it's a sad time for music and true musicians with talent at least we were lucky to have grown up in a time when it was exciting and have those memories to fall back on .

[@bigdaddypiggy]

All 3 of those guys had a hand in music that changed my life…I was 20 in 1991 & “Badmotorfinger” is still my all time favorite record in any genre 🖤🤤it’s just soooo good

[@konstantinov]

Hell yeah they were the Led Zep of our era.

[@vailashayes5494]

When I look back at the shows I've seen, soundgarden is always one of the bands I brag about.

[@t.seank.529]

All the bands in that era, if you saw them in a local PNW setting were good, SoundGarden was frightening! Chris Cornell’s voice was both Angelic and Demonic at the same time. I once saw them play “outshined” in a Seattle bar, and it made Black Sabbath seem like the Monkees!

[@RichardNixonsHippieRemoval]

The other guy is Jack Endino who was insanely instrumental in helping SG, Nirvana and numerous others put out there to make a living when they had nothing.

[@stitchgrimly6167]

And Mudhoney and countless others. Reciprocal was THE Sub Pop studio, and it's basically the size of a public toilet.

[@Mraquanetchris]

I could listen to Jack Endino talk about music for eternity. He's so good.

[@RichardNixonsHippieRemoval]

@@Mraquanetchris True. He seems like he's always been an old timer. Knows all the equipment, loves his job and the folks that work there.

[@richterbelmont8532]

I knew that was him! Wasn’t he also in the band Skinyard with Matt Cameron?

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

Glad to hear 'Burden in my hand' mentioned - it's the most underrated song, ever. Masterfully done, masterfully put together. It's my favorite Soundgarden song. Soundgarden is my favorite band and it really sucks that it's gone. That said, they provided great music and I wish the best for all of those guys. Badmotorfinger - Superunknown - Down on the Up Side is the greatest trio of records ever put out, IMO. RIP Chris Cornell.

[@reck0n3r]

Amazing music video too.

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

@@reck0n3r Yes it is.

[@misterschubert3242]

That actually might be my favorite of theirs.

[@pat931]

Agreed!! Those are 3 amazing records

[@Lateralus665]

Despite the fact that Kim was talking about "Superunknown", which BIMH is not on..

[@bsb1975]

I miss Kurt and Chris. RIP fellas. We love you!

[@Devilsblood]

Got to see Chris with Soundgarden before his passing.

[@ganzyjam2602]

I'm 57 years old now and growing up I always wondered what it would have been like to experience The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, first hand. But I did experience the 90s and that gave me an idea of what it was like. I remember that feeling of something big was happening. The energy, the vibes, the excitement, new bands, new music, it really was something to behold. What a feeling, nothing has even come close since then.

[@mattd6200]

Music is really fragmented now. There's "no scene". No rivalry between genres. We are in a post-modern world, now.

[@flapjack413]

33 years later, and Nirvana is STILL getting me through some tough times.

[@rockerbob949]

As a GenX guy I love these dudes!! 🤘🏼 HELL YEAH

[@lexzbuddy]

Sound Garden was the best of the bunch. Saw them live on the Badmotorfinger tour just after new years. It was such a great period.

[@nickgjenkins]

I think that's one of my favorite interviews Rick has ever done. Listening to these guys talk about this stuff is really eye opening.

[@swissarmyknight4306]

The sound of Krist Novoselic's bass being played, first heard at 11 years old, is the reason I became a musician. I play a lot besides bass now, but I always come back.

[@sitindogmas]

I was born in 78

[@PlottingTheDownfall]

Isn't that cool?!? I was 11 seeing RUSH for Moving Pictures. and that was the reason why I became a bassist. As musicians, we never know who we are going to influence. "With great power, comes great responsibility" --Uncle Ben.

[@Guido.Fawkes.1]

Krist doesn’t 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑦 bass!

[@sitindogmas]

@@Guido.Fawkes.1 wtf are you taking about, he plays the shit outta bass

[@timishere1925]

​@@Guido.Fawkes.1What are you trying to say? That he plays the bass?

[@kristopher2651]

I am blessed and grateful to have had the opportunity to be in the opening/supporting band for Soundgarden at the Salt Lake City fairgrounds right after Y2K. Such great people. I was starstruck.

[@pjr5913]

Super kool.

[@Mraquanetchris]

Fortunate enough to see them in the basement at the student union of my college with maybe 50 people ( working at the radio station )....we asked to help them with their gear and Cornell was just " It's ok, but if you could get the door. " :)

[@timbosboudreaus7996]

Yeah. I'm Tim Parsons from Seattle. Chris Cornell threatened to kick my ass at a PearlJam practice session. Lol. I knew them before they were famous. Salt Lake City is awesome.

[@doltcart]

What band were you in? I went to a lot of shows at Speedway and DVS during that era (I think Speedway closed down not long after Y2K). Never saw Soundgarden in SLC but I saw them in LA with Voivod and Prong.

[@Purplenpinkk]

I love Down on The Upside. Such a great album. ❤ I remember I was living in Venice, CA when I bought this album from Columbia House - remember that…haha - I moved into a single apartment alone right after the ‘94 earthquake and I swear I had PTSD. But, that album and Beastie Boys Paul’s Boutique were like a weird comfort to me from beginning to end. I played them a lot.

[@leomannpictures]

Haha, I had my first record deal with BMG. My first order definitely had both of those. Iconic!

[@thomasd4738]

“Nirvana got me through some tough times, or it changed my life, that's what it's all about" That's so true. I am so glad to see Kirst say this and know that his music has brought so much to people's lives.

[@ChrisPuckett]

I saw Soundgarden open for Danzig on the night my 15th birthday. I saw Nirvana live too. I was a fan way before they got big. Watching their success was truly amazing.

[@AustinKloudChloesPetRhino]

I saw Soundgarden open for Danzig as well- Norfolk Va the Boathouse. 😂 I believe I was 17 🤔

[@konstantinov]

The tour with Danzig / Soundgarden / Corrosion of Conformity. Saw that tour twice, Detroit and Chicago stops.

[@ckirk7317]

Krist is such a legend. So grounded and based. And yes, Transmit and Receive, the music does stick with us all of our lives.

[@nwerd7584]

I dont think you know what "based" means online.

[@ckirk7317]

@@nwerd7584 Umm, I'm using based to mean "confident and unapologetically themselves", which is the generally understood definition of the word, online and off. I mean, I'm obviously not talking about manufacturing crack-cocaine.

[@nwerd7584]

@@ckirk7317 thats not what based means at all. based is the exact opposite of Krist.

[@rodneystanger1651]

@@nwerd7584 Based.

[@timishere1925]

​@@rodneystanger1651Haha!!!! You win, hands down.

[@ricktheexplorer]

I turned my Marshall Code-50 amp to the 'Soundgarden' setting and broke out "Good Eye Closed" to the shock of my pal the other day. That brilliance is way beyond me, and I'm an old guy now too. Thank you Kim Thayil for some of the best music we will ever hear.

[@pawlpoche8736]

“Searching with my good eye closed” is possibly my favorite track by soundgarden

[@tommilitello198]

I’ve had two of those in four years and both took a shit tried changing the fuse and that wasn’t it,liked the amp that’s why I bought the second one but not chancing another one

[@eternity8811]

​@@tommilitello198wouldn't it be worth having someone check it out..?

[@bryantanirau-stanley3969]

My older brother heavily influenced me in music. From Beastie Boys to Alice Cooper and Megadeth. Remember when he introduced me to Nirvana. We had never heard anything like it. Changed my life. 33 years later I'm still a fan. 🤘🏿

[@hankhill9801]

Shout out to older brothers! Over the years mine introduced me to Kiss, Rush, Metallica and Nirvana (I returned the favor with Black Sabbath, Slayer and Soundgarden!)

[@MikeTrainormusic]

I discovered Nirvana in 93' when I was 10 years old. I was absolutely obsessed. My favourite guitar is my fender Jagstang. Krist is so humble, I don't think he realizes how many people he's affected around the world. I loved this interview

[@mattiefee]

I was 13 walking around 8th grade with a Walkman cassette player a hoodie and headphones hidden inside of the hoodie all day.

[@m00ncat89]

‘93

[@generaljj71]

I was 47 when Nevermind came out and it changed my life☠️

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

Strangely I love Mustangs especially, and really like Jaguars, but can't get into the jagstang. It's too skinny around the middle (and i prefer all singlecoils)

[@YummyBaer]

Krist gives out a great chill vibe. He’s that Cul De Sac neighbor we all want in our lives

[@3DCGdesign]

Dr. Phil played for Nirvana?! mind blown.

[@jaystat6545]

Wait until you see Ret Hot Chili Peppers drummer....

[@jerryslostfinger766]

@@jaystat6545😂😂😂😂

[@jeffwigle9154]

That's mean but made me laugh

[@vermontextreme]

Well, Mr. Beato, I’m now subscribed to both. Me and my bandmate were just talking about the odd time music from 90s grunge and how great it was that these songs were on the radio and popular. Well done, gentlemen.

[@SuperGaleford]

Me too. I didn’t know there was a second channel

[@darkmatter4752]

I like how Kim is wearing an A Perfect Circle hat

[@Louisejames23]

Soundgarden must be one of the most underrated bands ever, you rarely hear anything about the members other than Chris Cornell (RIP). Kim’s a legend, nice to see him ❤

[@bane1240]

Soundgarden’s 2 offerings (Superunknown and Down On The Upside) were HUGE…. Time defining masterpieces IMO. But I get what Kim is saying. Its hard to feel great about that time or any time in life about work or other accomplishments when things are off personally or emotionally.

[@cactaceous]

Badmotorfinger was also a big album. Most of the kids in my class had it.

[@bane1240]

It was for sure. However, it flew a little more under the radar in terms of popularity then vs the next 2. Its as if Soundgarden was a new band to many people until Outshined hit the radio and that song/album started their meteoric rise, along with several other bands, during the early 90’s. By the time Superunknown came out, their popularity had skyrocketed.

[@leoantonio]

I love Jack. Skin Yard was so awesome, too. So many gifts from these friends I’ve never met.

[@loveagainstgods5116]

I hope we get to see Alex and Geddy on your channel someday soon

[@greasesicle]

Ask them about using tapes and hidden musicians at their shows.

[@jamespohl-md2eq]

@@greasesicleusing footpads, sequencers, and triggering loops or samples ain’t controversial or worth asking about.

[@greasesicle]

@@jamespohl-md2eq Rush was a fraud. I saw the keyboard player behind the stage at Seattle Center Coliseum. Dolly Parton and her 'band' is all fake, too. I saw her bs show fall apart at Golden Gate Park.

[@maurihrino8158]

Awesome interview! I truly love the grunge era and the Stoner rock stated with Blues for the red sun from Kyuss , an incredible album ...I Would love to see an episode on it, interview or just your thoughts Rick

[@stevebeye1585]

Really, Kyuss Blues was the changing of the tide for me, I had that tape right when it came out, and was blown away by it.

[@maurihrino8158]

@@stevebeye1585 I was too young to appreciate it when it came out but then Kyuss became my favourite band! The incredible an yet original sound combined with elements of blues, 70s rock and psychedelic makes them so unique! Definitely underappreciated They have been so influential in the 90s

[@stevebeye1585]

Absolutely! They were outstanding and what they did needed to be done. Back to Blue Cheer and Sabbath levels of heavy simplicity

[@JasonOkonski-rv3mx]

Saw Soundgarden on the Superunknown tour and it was June or July so yeah, even though the record was getting huge and all those songs were fantastic there was a heavy air about it because of Kurt’s death. Saw DOTU tour too. Such a great band.

[@AECJ1]

I have been really selective with my tuning into much of anything new online for a long time - but it is important to me to say this- that some of these videos interviews and instructional as they are - very good seeing these - Very Good of you to take the time to get so many interested in the interview - still helping make sense of the years we went through - thank you

[@RataStuey]

4:30 love what Krist says here. He’s always such a humble down to earth, kind guy in interviews. I assume he’s always like this. But I just want to say that hearing “about a girl” for the first time on tv (the unplugged version) was like a lightning bolt. A slow one. It felt amazing to have that connection and feel something new. They rocked but nirvana had something else going for them too. I can’t describe it.

[@zippitydoodah5693]

This interview is AWESOME. Not sure how I missed it! Gotta go back and watch it.

[@LloydWoodall]

It's time to talk to these guys again!

[@flix-tw5ow]

I dodn't even know this channel existed. I'm in!!

[@BADNDN]

Wow you’re a lucky guy to have interviewed these Legends Ricky! Keep it up!

[@garyfarrell954]

i think superunknown is mind blowing...one of my all time favorites

[@kal_george32]

These interviews are just brilliant to watch. I love listening to musicians that inspired me over the years speak about their bands and new projects. Thank you Rick for creating two wonderful KZbin channels 🎸

[@ludochem]

kirst nailed it. It was tough music for tough times even if it was hard to spot what was tough about that period. i think we see a bit clearer now.

[@jamyhengesbach38]

Down on the Upside is an amazing album!

[@johnnikollaj496]

I really appreciate these interviews. Thank you

[@SuperJiggawhat]

God bless your interview skills

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

Such great interviews

[@igortretsnom]

I can't express how much I enjoy your videos.

[@Gunny672]

This is my favorite of both your channels.

[@skeleton-key]

Such a great interview 😮

[@regularguyrevolution9455]

I am subscribed!! And I thank you for these great interviews and great dialogue! All the best Rick! Appreciate all you do! Take care! 👍

[@ohforthelove74]

I'm glad I had these guys in my youth rather than what's out there now.

[@leapinglouie5908]

2 minutes in, listening to these phenomenal musicians conversation, subscribed. And this is before I read some comments in here afterwards. I've never read so much positivity online, especially in a youtube comment section. I knew there was hope. Bless you all, Chris, Kurt and crew

[@tidepoolbay]

Thank you Rick! Keep On Keepin On! WooF!!

[@christollefson1538]

I was not aware of the new channel . I am now subscribed

[@Ironman-harmonica]

Nice interview

[@SpaceCowboy175]

I absolutely love Down on the Upside. Even more than Superunknown which is saying alot. Such a dark, mysterious and emotive record with lots of layers to it. One of my top ten all time for sure

[@sixstringcity3931]

Dr Phil always my favorite Nirvana bassist

[@winksoda86]

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[@museinglis1979]

Rick’s interviews are monumental! These dudes are giants of contemporary music! 🎸🥁 …I’d love to see Rick’s iPhone Contact List! 😅

[@fenderfox5080]

Thank you so much for doing these amazing interviews Rick, like Krist was saying us fans have been touched by the music they made, I can honestly say as a musician myself and a fan of Nirvana I've thought about Kurt every single day of my life since 1992, some would say it's an obsession but Kurt and Nirvana will always be a part of my life till the day I die. So hearing these guys talk about these stories is really something😂

[@edwardperry9417]

Subscribed! Great interviews

[@sd3falco]

Didn't know about this channel. I subscribed. Love these guys.

[@nrood3821]

i so agree with kris. music is so great. nirvana's music got me thru alot and i so wore out a few copies of all their albums. and superunknown from soundgargen as well. that music was ans still is so great.

[@jasonhills3726]

Rick you are the best

[@OffhandDelivery]

Holy shit Rick you're capturing some legendary gold here! great interview!

[@CrowT]

These are fantastic.

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

Saw Soundgarden at the Paramount around 2015 (I think) such an amazing show; you guys absolutely KILLED it.

[@dani.29]

Oh my god krist is so adorable and has such a calming voice 😁

[@kcsvantasticvoyages9729]

Music connects us thru life and into eternity. That’s the magic soup of it!

[@ricksgrandauditorium8790]

Thank you for the PSA Rick, didn't even realize I was on your second channel. Happy to sub to another Beato channel, thank you. Also, if you ever feel the urge to teach someone (from the very start, just bought (last year) a Taylor 214ce) some acoustic guitar lessons pro bono, I'm your man.

[@Shirtsaysshirt]

Subscribing to rick is a must. Cool insight.

[@ianhoyle8459]

Nirvana changed my life and part of me died with Kurt. This is a wonderful interview. Thank you

[@house9850]

its great to hear Krist be able to talk without Dave Grohl always talking all over him

[@cactaceous]

Yeah. It’s odd. Every time Grohl is around, Krist doesn’t talk much.

[@Nick_CF]

Amen

[@joshuamartins9487]

Well... Krist talked over Kurt and Dave in the Nirvana days , so

[@house9850]

@@joshuamartins9487 I have a different opinion

[@joshuamartins9487]

@@house9850 it's not an opinion....it's an observation. Krist was the most talkative of the 3 in Nirvana .

[@user-pu3lc5qk2v]

I love they thought "Down on the Upside" was a great album, unbelievable underrated album, its one of the greatest rock albums ever.

[@lezamaduque]

I didn’t know you had 2 channels. I wonder how much I’ve watched without noticing

[@LennyTheGoatDemon]

I love Kim and Krist so much!

[@user-xq2of4fj6e]

I saw Kim Thyal around so much back between 90-92 that when I left Seattle and went back to Florida, I wondered who this person was that I remembered. I pissed Child Cornell off one night and he said I'm gonna kick your ass. It was an awesome time. So emotional.

[@tomcoryell]

I’m subbed Ricky!

[@louisjamesreeves]

I love you guys thank you

[@tryste_mx]

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[@louisjamesreeves]

Ooops wrong chat! haha i will correct @@tryste_mx

[@MarkTurner-vs7uc]

Kim is a great rhythm player. Make odd time stuff sound normal. Grest riffs. Very much like Iommi.

[@TheMicturation]

legends,just sit and listen

[@J9045hello]

I tell everyone that this is the best channel (to sub to).

[@jamesastle6472]

Love these interviews! Is Jim Keltner in line? Would love to see Klaus Voorman too...

[@theodery2712]

You got to feel for these two guys, getting phone calls that their band mates, brothers, creative partners had not just died, but killed themselves. Can't imagine the personal psychic toll of those events, both Kurt and Chris C. seeming from the interviews, to be really nice people, down to earth, insightful, and literally heartbreaking to see, knowing they somehow gave up on themselves and took their own lives. Chris C was one of the greatest singers AND lyricists and Kurt was " the voice of an entire generation" , so to see these two guys sitting now with Rick, after what they lived through as people ( Dave grohl got TWO tragic phonecalls about band mates) my heart goes out to them. R.I.P. Kurt and Chris C.

[@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973]

Cobain was not the voice of my generation. He was too whiny and self absorbed to be that.

[@TPAK-tb6gr]

Good stuff

[@user-kp1sr2ln7j]

Subscribed!

[@mattdad8429]

Shout-out to Rick reminding me I wasn't subscribed to Rick Beato 2, because I honestly wasn't even aware I wasn't. I'm subbed to the main one and not this one, so I urge others to double-check.

[@profitnadeem]

These guys are so musically inclined, but in the most natural way.

[@stoneysdead689]

It's wild that Krist now looks like a retired bus driver or something- if you ran into him and didn't know who he was- you'd never guess he played in one of the biggest bands since the British invasion and literally changed the world with his music. Tbh I liked Sound Garden better- they were more my style- but Nirvana was amazing. They had the purest melodies I had heard since the Beatles- very pop flavored. But then that was juxtaposed against this very raw, simplistic style of playing- almost like punk at times. It just worked- really, really well- the world went nuts over it. That said- I do think part of that was that it had been so long since we had something so organic and real- we were coming out of the 80s when everything was super polished and over produced. It was good to, but in a different way- grunge felt like it went back and connected with something out of the 70s that ppl just identified with.

[@Stewartchampion]

Nevermind hit me because it was so polished and fresh sounding ..to me it had a big production... all that chorus effect over it all...wishy washy sound to it.. OK the songs wasn't like motley crue or what not...but the production is massive

[@mikesmith6594]

2 of the big 4 of Grunge much respect to you guys been listening to grunge since middle and high school. Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Nirvana, The Melvins.

[@drewjamison1158]

Pearl Jam?

[@augustjohnnycrashed]

Day I tried to live was the best tune, you need to interview Alain Johannes!!!

[@RataStuey]

I got into the Minutmen last week. I can’t believe how it took me this long to discover them. I always thought of them as a country and western band who did the Jackass theme tune. They’re amazing. I do wonder if Kurt was a fan of them.

[@artlife6210]

lol the thumb...Cheech and Dr Phil😂 love these guys Rick, great stories!

[@murraywebster1228]

Great stuff, I was on the Nevermind Tour in the UK when the album broke, crazy few weeks of my life…

[@Stewartchampion]

Wow..what band was you in mate...I'd be interested to know any thing on that time

[@murraywebster1228]

@@Stewartchampion I was the tourmanager/sound engineer for the two support bands, Captain America and Shonen Knife

[@guitaristssuck8979]

He wrote a book too

[@murraywebster1228]

@@guitaristssuck8979 yup, I get mentioned a couple of times in it, Andy said I was in it a couple of more times but the lawyer made him cut it out, I was a bit wilder back then……🤪😂🤣😂🤣

[@Stewartchampion]

So what band was u in Murray

[@garrisoncase]

Also, Krist is always gonna be someone I’ll always wish I heard more of. Okay that’s enough nostalgia

[@larrydrozd2740]

Yep///gotta live in the moment folks. I had a years worth of getting really popular with my band years ago locally. I was so wrapped up in getting to that point and so busy I missed all the fun of it.

[@waifinacave]

subscribed buddy

[@ElSantoLuchador]

I grew up in the epicenter of grunge and knew all of the players. It was a very local scene. To see Nirvana on the cover of The Rolling Stone was a moment of surreality for me. Watching Courtney Love and Kathleen Hannah repeat their local roles at the grammys solidified the unreality. By the time my friend Nate (Foo Fighters) was on the cover I was immune. I personally haven't so much as had my mugshot published in the local papers. We can't all win the lottery.

[@closeoutsaleusa5322]

When I was 12 years old (1969) living in Lake Stevens WA, the little rock band I was in sounded BETTER than Nirvana and the whole GRUNGE movement on our worse day - and we only played 3 gigs. Just goes to show - talent has nothing to do with music - it's all about what the kids will buy. And my hat's off to Nirvana and the crew for figuring that out.

[@gusgreen3104]

In the pit at Mississippi Nights while Gun is playing. 10/10

[@AmericanSpyFox]

Down on the up side makes so much more sense to me now.